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A
A
B
Morning,
I'm
representative
heron
representing
the
42nd
district.
It
is
a
great
pleasure
to
be
here
this
morning.
I
am
originally
from
madison
county
and
my
family
did
grow
up
on
a
farm
out
in
peyton
town.
So
it
is
a
great
pleasure
and
honor
to
be
here
and
learn
and
be
in
community
with
you
all.
Thank
you.
A
So
just
a
reminder,
I'm
sure,
as
you
sit
through
various
committees,
you
know
the
routine
about.
Please
silence
your
phone
and
then,
if
you're
testifying,
please
sign
up
on
the
the
sheet
on
the
podium
out
front
there,
and
then
testimony
is
within
the
the
chair's
discretion
based
on
time
restraints
and
information
already
presented
and
no
signs
are
permitted
in
the
committee
rooms.
A
We
have
a
quorum,
we'll
proceed
with
business
and
we
have
some
individuals
who
have
nine
o'clock
meetings
so
we'll
roll
right
through
this.
I
don't
think
we
have
anything
controversial,
we'll
just
go
right
down
the
list
with
senate
bill
121
and
invite
senator
givens
to
the
table
and
anyone
you
might
have
with
you,
leader,
givens.
A
You
can
introduce
yourself
to
for
the
record
and
the
floor
is
yours.
You
you're
not
new
at
this
process,
so.
I
Chair
heath
and
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
the
chance
to
be
in
front
of
you
and
present
senate
bill
121
for
your
consideration.
I
Will
pull
it
a
little
closer?
Is
that
a
little
better?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
It
is
truly
an
honor
to
be
here
to
present
this
bill
for
your
consideration
and
it
builds
on
some
work
that
we
did
a
couple
of
years
ago,
around
agricultural
sales,
tax
exemptions.
I'd
like
to
explain
it
briefly.
I
know
there's
a
committee
sub,
but
if
I
could
first
do
the
the
base
explanation,
mr
chairman,
if
that
pleases
you
and
then
we'll
move
into
adopting
the
adopting
the
sub.
I
Thank
you
so
the
way
the
ag
exemption
process
works
in
kentucky
and
it's
different
in
every
state,
but
for
sales,
tax
items,
some
items
in
the
ag
sector
are
not
taxed
and
some
are
taxed
prior
to
us,
making
some
changes
a
couple
of
years
ago.
It
was
the
role
of
the
retailer
to
determine
if
someone
was
tax
exempt
or
not,
based
on
them
signing
a
certificate
in
the
presence
of
the
retailer.
I
What
was
still
going
on
was
when
the
farmer
would
walk
into
the
ag
retailer's
business.
With
that
license
number,
there
was
still
a
requirement
that
two
certificates
be
kept
on
file
at
the
ag
retail
location
and
really
that
was
not
needed
once
someone
is
deemed
to
be
tax
exempt
for
the
items
that
can
be
purchased
tax
exempt.
I
All
that
should
be
kept
on
file
should
be
that
license
number
and,
in
essence,
that's
what
this
legislation
does
as
it
originally
appears
before
you
now.
Mr
chairman,
I
am
familiar
with
the
contents
of
the
sub,
but
have
not
been
through
them
thoroughly.
So
if,
if
you
have
someone
that
wants
to
introduce
the
sub
and
or
explain
it,
that
would
be
great.
A
We'll
be
glad
to
do
that,
the
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
on
the
sub,
and
let
me
just
draw
your
attention
to
that.
I
was
involved
in
in
the
language
on
the
sub
and
we
changed
the
the
date
from
july
1
of
2023
22
july
1
of
2022
to
january
1,
2023.
So,
basically
just
extended
this
sign
up
process
for
six
months.
A
I
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
both
the
sponsor
and
the
chair
have
touched
on
what
I
had
flagged
them
in
my
reading.
It
does
say,
shall
the
person
shall
notify
the
department?
I
was
just
wondering
how
we're
going
to
track
that
and
are
there
any
repercussions
for
not
reporting.
A
That's
a
good
catch.
I
didn't
see
that
I
don't
think
there's
a
way
to
track
it
or
enforce
it.
To
be
honest
with
you,
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
big
enough
issue
that
we
need
to
change
that
word
or
just
let
nature
take
its
course.
I'm
open
for
suggestions.
I
Chair
heath,
I
don't
think
there
is
and-
and
I
think
we
could
certainly
go
one
of
two
ways
we
could
represent
king.
Your
question
is
well
stated.
I
think
we
could
certainly
amend
the
language
in
the
absence
of
us
amending
the
language.
I
would
presume
that,
obviously,
every
four
years
the
renewal
has
to
happen.
I
If
someone
wanted
to
protect
themselves
to
keep
maybe
a
maybe
a
partner
or
a
hired
assistant
from
using
that
number,
then
they
would
certainly
want
to
make
that
notification.
So
I
could
see
us
either
amending
the
language
or
letting
the
language
go
forward.
I'm
I'm
certainly
supportive
of
whatever
the
house
decides
to
do.
A
J
A
All
right,
I
was
just
informed:
we
need
a
voice
vote
on
the
sub
representative,
tipton.
Sorry.
A
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
a
voice
vote
on
the
committee
sub
and
then
come
back
to
you
all
in
favor
of
passing
the
committee
sub
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay,
all
right.
Thank
you.
We
got
the
committee
sub
passed
and
before
you
and
representative
tipton.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Senator
gibbons
appreciate
you
bringing
this
to
us.
I
remember
our
discussion
previously
on
this.
I
think
it's
a
very
important
issue,
a
very
timely
issue.
I've
got
my
number
stored
in
my
contacts
in
my
phone,
so
I
hope
I
don't
lose
my
phone,
but
I
should've
got
a
copy
somewhere
at
home,
but
I
just
wanna
on
the
original
language
of
the
bill,
this
current
law.
H
It
states
that,
in
the
application
the
applicant
could
send
a
schedule
f
or
a
couple
of
other
pieces
of
documentation.
It
uses
the
word
or
when
I
submitted
my
application,
I
sent
a
schedule
afn
they
they.
They
came
back
and
asked
for
all
of
the
additional
other
documentation,
so
they
want.
They
interpreted
that
as
an
and
instead
of
an
or
I
just
point
that
out
that
possibly
there
may
be
some
communication
with
the
department
of
revenue
and
make
sure
they
are
appropriately
training.
Their
staff
on
this
representative.
I
Thank
you
thank
you
and
if
I
could
reply
briefly,
mr
chairman,
yes
representative,
tipton
great
point
and-
and
I
encourage
all
of
you
to
be
ambassadors
for
this
process,
we
need
our
ag
community
to
know
this
process
is
in
place.
I
fully
support
the
six-month
further
extension
of
the
dual
process.
The
dual
process
means
the
certificates
right
now
that
we
have
on
file
provide
that
blanket
of
exemption.
I
The
dor
number
provides
that
blanket
of
exemption.
Your
question
is
really
good
related.
The
way
that
dor
is
interpreting
the
and
or
the
or
and
after
communication
with
them-
and
you
must
have
been
one
of
the
earliest
applicants
in
the
process,
because
we
have
clarified
with
them
that
it
doesn't
include
the
word
and
it
only
needs
to
be
one
of
those
to
their
credit.
Dor
has
worked
with
us
they're
trying
hard
to
get
it
right.
I
As
you
talk
with
farmers
in
your
community,
the
schedule
f
is
the
best
way
to
expedite
this
process,
encourage
your
farmers
if
they
submit
an
application
to
go
ahead
and
send
the
schedule
f
with
it.
If
they
send
a
farm
service
agency
id
number,
then
dor
is
actually
trying
to
cross
reference
that
over
to
make
sure
the
farmer
is
actively
engaged
in
agriculture
that
is
tax
exempt
because
understand,
horse
farmers
are
not
tax
exempt
and
should
not
be
obtaining
a
number
if
you
are
solely
a
horse
farmer.
I
In
addition,
and
thanks
for
the
chance
to
reflect
on
these
things,
there
is
penalty
of
law.
If
someone
falsifies
this,
if
you
as
a
farmer,
tries
to
fly
under
the
cloak
of
I'm
tax
exempt-
and
you
don't
generate
ag
revenues,
then,
when
the
time
comes,
if
you
were
to
get
audited,
you
will
suffer
the
consequences
and
should
suffer
those
consequences.
We
need
to
get
this
right
to
protect
the
integrity
of
the
ag
exemption
process.
A
E
Senator
gibbons,
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
forward
and
in
our
area
we
have
a
lot
of
farmers
in
the
crep
program
and
some
of
them
that's
the
only
thing
they
have
on
their
farm.
You
know
this
does
not
qualify
them
if
they
show
that
on
the
application
that
that's
their
income,
this
makes
them
not
eligible
for
this.
I
call
them
and
talk
to
them
about
it
and
they
they
don't
consider
that
a
income
to
the
farm-
and
I
had
a
long
discussion
with
him.
I
said:
well,
so
you
get
income
from
the
farm.
I
Brief
comment,
mr
chairman:
yes
represent
fearsome
great
point,
great
question,
and,
and
those
are
the
sorts
of
things
that
dor
is
interpreting
that
I'm
so
glad
our
ag.
Retailers
are
not
having
to
stand
behind
the
counter
and
try
to
decide
if
someone's
tax
exempt
or
not
because
previously
prior
to
this
legislation
in
those
days,
if
dor
were
faced
with
the
question,
they
would
probably
interpret
it
the
same
way
and
the
ag
retailer
would
be
on
the
hook
for
having
misinterpreted
it.
A
E
E
C
G
H
A
I
A
So
we'll
bring
senator
hornbeck
to
the
table
and
his
guests
as
he
needs
them,
and
and
we'll
just
go
right
into
senate
bill
53
and
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
the
floor
is
yours,
chairman
hornbeck.
K
K
Was
hoping
you
hadn't
lost
them,
we'll
start
out
today
with
senate
bill
53
and,
as
you
know,
mr
chairman,
these
programs
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
here
today
are
programs
that
are
very
important
and
mostly
important
to
our
young
farmers,
our
smaller
farmers,
it
utilizes
the
investment,
that's
made
in
equipment
to
extent
that
it's
spread
out
a
bunch
among
amongst
a
lot
of
farmers.
This
program
has
been
in
place
for
many
many
years,
and
the
reason
for
addressing
this
issue
is
just
a
year
ago
the
revenue
cabinet
decided.
K
We
hadn't
been
implementing
these
right
for
the
last
60
70
years,
and
so
we
made
some
changes
to
make
sure
it
conformed
with
what
they
intended
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
alan
you're.
Going
to
all.
J
J
A
K
L
At
that
time,
to
do
conservation,
work
and
just
a
couple
of
years
ago,
legal
counsel
advised
the
soil
and
water
commission
that
oversees
the
program
that
they
felt
there
were
some
problems
in
the
statute
that
didn't
allow
them
to
loan
money
to
a
to
a
contractor
to
do
work
typically
on
some
of
the
higher
end
equipment
that
required
specialized
skills.
The
conservation
district
would
lease
that
loan,
the
money
get
the
loan
from
the
commission
lease
that
month.
Excuse
me
didn't
lease
it
to
an
operator
and
they
felt
like
that
wasn't
providing
the
statute.
L
So
senator
hornbach
has
worked
with
us
to
clarify
that
language.
Just
a
quick
history,
62
million
dollars
loaned
since
1948
and
it's
been
very
well
run
less
than
one
percent
loan
loss
over
that
time.
It's
actually
paid
the
state
back.
Initially,
there
was
about
two
million
dollars
put
into
the
program
and
over
the
years
the
legislature
has
swept
over
four
million
out
of
that
account.
L
So
we're
real,
proud
of
the
program
and
would
like
to
continue
in
the
way
that
we
have
in
the
past,
because
it's
a
big
benefit
to
farmers
and
landowners
in
kentucky.
A
D
B
B
B
Ma'am
brief
comment
chair.
Yes,
I
appreciate
you
all
bringing
this
today
and
I
know
we've
had
this
conversation
for
several
months,
so
good
work
on
your
due
diligence
and
yes,
I
vote.
Yes.
Thank
you.
E
A
K
K
Senate
bill
54
deals
with
commission
members,
and
this
was
brought
to
us
by
by
one
of
the
counties,
because
there
was
a
gentleman
elected
and
he's
a
very
good
representative
on
the
committee.
That
was
not
an
adult.
I
was
elected,
duly
elected,
but
it's
not
an
adult
and
we
thought
that,
maybe,
since
they
were
handling
public
funds,
that
they
probably
should
be
an
adult
in
some
way,
so
we're
bringing
this
bill-
and
I
think
mr
bryant
is
going
to
speak
to
it.
Yes,.
J
Senate
bill
54
does
two
things
first
thing:
for
each
kentucky
association
conservation,
district
area.
It
would
allow
kecd
to
submit
two
names
for
the
sole
and
water
commission.
With
the
onset
of
zoom
meetings.
There
was
a
legal
opinion
I
think,
from
for
the
division
of
conservation.
That
said,
the
majority
of
supervisors
in
an
area,
for
example,
area
five,
there's
15
counties
that
would
mean
there
would
have
to
be
at
least
53.
That
would
attend
a
conservation
area
meeting
and
folks,
we've
kind
of
struggled
to
to
do
that.
J
So
as
a
result
of
this,
this
would
help
kacd
to
make
those
appointments
just
about
all
the
supervisors.
They,
you
know
it's
volunteer.
They
have
full-time
jobs,
they
farm
it's
busy.
It's
always
challenging
to
have
enough
people
to
make
that,
so
that
would
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
appointments
to
the
soil
and
water.
Commission
second
thing
is:
it
establishes
a
minimum
wage
age
of
18
and
with
the
the
substitutes.
A
We
have
a
question
representative
stevenson.
M
Hey,
I
just
wondered:
is
the
the
person
under
18
right
now?
Are
they
grandfathered
in
with
this
yeah.
B
F
K
Representative,
graham
he's
a
good
member,
okay,
there's
no
doubt
about
that
he's
a
good
member,
but
we
just
felt
like
he's
elected
when
he
was
16..
Oh,
my
goodness
and
like
has
been
said,
you
know
he
had
to
ask
his
parents
permission
to
go
to
a
meeting
to
give
out
public
money.
F
Who
knows
he
may
wind
up
being
commissioner
of
agriculture
or
governor
of
the
commonwealth
from
this
experience
that
he's
having?
So
I
I
I
I'm
very
proud
of
the
fact
that
he
took
it
upon
himself
to
do
it.
He
had
the
initiative
to
do
it
and
I
would
hope,
a
lot
more
young
people
not
running
for
office
at
16
but
be
engaged
in
the
process.
K
Mr
chairman,
if
good
I'd,
caution
representative,
graham
because
he
lives
close
to
you
close
to
your
district,
maybe
in
your
district
and
he
may
be
running
for
your
office
first.
F
L
Just
wanna,
I
appreciate
representative
graham's
comments
and
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
in
all
121
conservation
districts
we
have
the
availability
of
a
junior
board
that
a
lot
of
ffa
members
and
4-h
take
part
in
it's
an
excellent
training
program.
So
we
we.
We
need
soil
conservation
supervisors
in
the
pipeline
coming
up.
So
we're
we're
more
than
happy
for
youth
to
be
engaged
in
soil
conservation,
yeah.
A
D
E
C
B
A
A
Sir,
thank
you,
gentlemen,
and
we'll
move
on
to
senate
bill.
148.
K
A
K
K
I
would
like
to
take
an
opportunity
to
thank
department
of
building
and
housing
and
rick
rand,
especially
for
their
working
with
us
on
this
bill,
because
we
always
all
have
the
safety
of
the
public
in
mind
and
the
employees
in
mind
as
the
top
priority
when
we
went
through
this,
so
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
matt.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
chairman
heath.
I
thank
everyone
here
for
the
time
and
consideration
today.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming
discussing
a
definition
of
controlled
environment
agriculture.
A
new
sector
for
this
state
app
harvest
is
very
proud
to
have
deployed
more
than
400
million
dollars
in
capital
expenditure
in
just
over
three
years.
N
This
is
going
to
allow
us
to
address
a
regulatory
shortfall
or
or
a
gap.
I
should
say
essentially
control
environment
agriculture
as
a
new
sector
doesn't
have
regulatory
coverage.
So
in
defining
this
here
it
allows
the
regulators
to
come
behind
and
put
the
technical
language
into
statute
that
allows
us
the
budgetary
budgetary
clarity
that'll,
make
sure
we
can
keep
making
investments
like
this
in
kentucky,
I
should
mention.
We
are
very
proud
also
to
have
contributed
about
30
million
dollars
in
tax
revenue
through
our
employees
to
the
state.
N
Last
year
we
hired
500
people
in
three
years
we're
looking
to
hire
about
600
more
this
year
as
we
stand
up
three
facilities
madison
county
to
somerset.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
for
the
consideration
here
and
really
appreciative.
O
O
When
kentucky
fresh
harvest
was
beginning
to
develop
its
operation
in
the
stanford
area,
we
worked
with
building
housing
at
that
point
in
time
to
kind
of
get
through
a
couple
things
that
we
had
to
do
then,
but
this
legislation
really
resolves
the
issue
that
it's
kind
of
been
ongoing
for
these
types
of
facilities
for
the
last
four
or
five
years,
and
so
we
appreciate
senator
hornbach's
leadership,
and
we
kda
fully
supports
this.
Commissioner
fully
supports
this.
We
urge
your
passage.
H
N
Very
appreciative
of
a
lot
of
people
that
have
helped
push
this
through.
I
want
to
second
chairman
hornback's
comments
towards
rick,
rand
and
housing
building
code.
Two
successive
administrations
have
worked
through
this
issue
and
a
lot
of
people
have
come
to
the
table.
Kelly,
ludwig,
very
critical
to
corral.
A
lot
of
people
chairman
hornback
himself
for
taking
a
lot
of
time
to
come
out
to
the
facility
understand
this
issue
really
understand
how
this
is
not
gonna
affect
the
safety
of
workers,
so
very
grateful.
Thank
you
very
much.
M
Hi
and
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
ab
harvest,
keep
bringing
those
tomatoes
in
the
winter.
All,
yes,
amazing.
I
do
have
one
question,
though,
in
section
12,
c
or
subsection,
12
c
and
it
says,
shall
not
be
used
for
retail
sales
or
allow
open
access
to
the
public.
I
mean
I'm
guessing
that
that's
like
for
sanitation
and
things,
but
can
you
expand.
N
On
that
just
a
little
bit,
the
the
difference
here
is
how
the
code
views
a
commercial
versus
a
production
facility.
Commercial
facilities
can
allow
the
public
to
access,
buy
the
tomatoes
on
site
important
for
us
to
distinguish
that
we're
not
going
to
do
that
for
work
for
worker
safety
for
plant
safety.
So
it's
it's
trying
to
use
some
language,
that's
already
in
the
code
to
kind
of
tee
up
what
comes
next.
M
Okay
and
one
follow-up,
yes,
I'm
kind
of
hopeful,
I
know
you
know
app
harvest
is
kind
of
like
this
little
shining
jewel,
and
so
many
people
are
drawn
to
it
want
to
know
about
it.
What
kind
of
agritourism
are
you
doing
there?
Are
you
given
like
plant
tours
or
anything
like
that,
and
if
so,
will
this
affect
that
in
the
future.
N
We
are
very
hopeful
that
we
can
get
every
member
here
out
to
the
greenhouse
as
soon
as
possible.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
opening
it
to
the
to
the
public.
We
do
have
select
tours
that
don't
go
in
the
plant
areas
themselves,
but
can
understand
the
facility
by
entering
our
pack
house.
It
is
a
2.8
million
square
foot
facility,
so
there's
a
lot
of
space
to
cover,
but
you
can
learn
a
lot
about
it,
just
from
kind
of
a
central
location,
but
as
far
as
the
tourism.
N
K
Mr
chairman,
just
an
example
of
the
language
that
you
question
and
how
that
ties
in
with
agritourism
when
building
a
housing
looks
at
it
and
gives
some
of
these
exemptions,
it
may
be
something
that
they
don't
have
to
put
sprinklers
in
that
area.
So
then,
if
they
were,
gonna
allow
out
be
open
to
the
public
for
tours
agritourism.
Those
type
of
things
building
and
housing
needs
to
take
another
look
at
what
the
exemptions
are.
Then
it's
just
public
safety.
A
D
Briefly,
explain
my
vote.
Yes.
First,
I
want
to
thank
senator
hormack
for
allowing
me
to
present
in
senate
ag
committee
on
yesterday
and
passing
my
bill
through
your
committee
as
well
appreciate
being
able
to
do
that,
and
also
mr
pat
henderson
has
called
and
kept
me
aware
of
all
these
bills
that
have
been
coming
through
your
committee,
and
I
appreciate
him
being
able
to
do
that
and
explain
some
of
these
things
to
me
from
his
standpoint.
Some
of
you
know
him
he's
been
around
for
a
long
time,
so
appreciate
him
doing
that.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
F
K
B
A
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
comedian.
I
if
I
remember
correctly,
representative
callaway
representative
fisher,
I
think
you're
also
on
consent.
A
Yeah.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
Some
of
our
members
had
to
step
out
to
go
to
another
committee,
so
we
didn't
offend
anybody.
They
just
have
a
multiple
tasks
they're
performing
this
morning,
so
we're
ready
for
house
joint
resolution,
41
representative
bowling.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee,
adam
bolling,
state
representative,
87th
district,
representing
bell
and
harlan
counties
and
with
me
today.
I
have.
Q
Thank
you.
It's
my
first
time
in
front
of
the
the
ag
committee.
So
hopefully
I
get
a
good
welcome.
Well-Managed
family-owned
non-industrial
forest
are
central
to
providing
the
raw
material
that
fuels
kentucky's
13
to
14
billion
in
economic
contributions
from
the
forestry
industry
sector
annually,
incentivizing
family
forest
owners
who
own
the
majority
of
forest
land
in
kentucky
to
conduct
sound
forest
practices,
will
help
sustain
the
socio-economic
benefits
that
forest
providers
provide
for
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky
in
2002
session.
Q
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
as
I'm
reading
this
and
trying
to
understand
this,
I
know
our
constitution
says
that
a
real
property
has
to
be
assessed
at
fair
market
value.
We
do
have
the
agricultural
exemption
for
active
farmland.
Am
I
interpreting
that
these
forest
lands
are
in
between
there
somewhere
and
we're
trying
to
find
a
solution?
Could
you
kind
of
just
comment
on
that
and
exactly
what
the
issue
is.
P
Sure
be
glad
to
so
well
in
in
describing
what
well-managed
forest
lands
are.
Those
are
lands
where
the
woodland
owners
are
actively
engaged
in
the
management
of
that
crop.
Okay,
timber
crop
instead
of
a
corn
crop.
That
kind
of
thing
right
so
from
that
standpoint
of
this
resolution
asked
the
department
of
revenue
and
us
my
department
to
work
out
that
equitable
strategy
for
assessment
of
of
that
managed
forest
land.
Now,
that's
not
forest
land,
that's
just
sitting
there
where
no
one's
engaged
in
the
cultivation
of
it.
P
B
Thank
you
very
much
in
section
one.
It
does
talk
a
lot
about
the
lrc
recommendation
for
the
tax
assessment
and
it
also
talks
about
the
well-managed.
So
will
part
of
that
recommendation
be
what
the
definition
is
of
the
well-managed.
P
P
Or
is
that
something
that
we'll
need
to
come
up
with
right?
Well,
there's
dif,
there's
different
ways
of
proving
that
we've
had
discussions
about
that
before
and
there
are.
There
are
mechanisms
that
any
woodland
owner
in
the
state
could
take
a
hold
of
and
get
involved
with
at
no
charge
right,
so
that
you
had
evidence
there
that
they
were
actually
engaged
in
the
management
of
the
force.
P
For
example,
one
example
would
be
whether
they
hold
a
tree
farm
certificate
or
not
and
holding
that
certificate,
and
that's
that's
free
of
charge
at
this
point
in
time.
The
kentucky
division
of
forestry
service
foresters
provide
assistance.
Landowners
help
do
that
right,
so
you
could
a
pva,
for
example,
as
proof
of
a
landowner
having
a
well-managed
forest
could
accept
us.
A
tree
farm
certificate
could
accept
a
a
plan
that
was
written
by
the
division
of
forestry
for
the
management
of
their
property
and
indications
that
they've
done
that
management.
F
Just
to
comment:
I've
got
a
dear
friend
of
mine,
who's
got
about
25
acres
there
on
his
tree
farm
and
his
whole
goal
was
to
plant
trees
there
and
and
that
25
acres
for
his
grandchildren's
college
education
down
the
road
and,
and
so
anyway,
just
just
want
to
share
that
thought.
My
question
would
be
like
him:
do
we
have
a
number
across
the
commonwealth?
F
Excuse
me
how
many
tree
farmers
roughly
what
we
might
have.
P
Yeah
so
you've
got.
I
don't
know
that
I
don't
know
the
number
the
acreage
is
somewhere
between
250
000
and
300
000.
I
don't
know
how
I
don't
know
what
the
number
is
sure
good.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
Thank
you,
sir.
You
just
mentioned
the
acreage
overall.
Is
there
a
minimum
or
maximum
or
any
kind
of
parameters
for
your
resolution
individually.
Q
B
Q
Not
in
the
resolution,
but
that
that
will
be
something
that
they
study
and
come
out
with
recommendations
for
how
to
fix
that
problem.
E
E
K
I
A
Yes
and
representative
johnson,
I'm
sorry
dixon
did
you
have
a
question
or
comment.
L
Yes,
please
I'd
like
to
record
a
yes
vote
on
senate
bill.
53.
A
A
Thank
you
guys
for
coming
and
representative
iambs.
Would
you
like
to
record
a
vote.
C
B
C
To
excuse
me,
I
need
to
record
a
yes
vote
on
cindy
bill,
148
and
horn
house
joint
resolution.
41,
please,
okay,.
A
A
A
Out
it
gets
confusing
when
you
have
to
juggle
between
two
committees:
okay,
all
right,
so
we're
ready
to
move
on
with
house
resolution
we're
doing
15
or
you
want
to
just
go
back
to,
but
we'll
do
15
and
go
from
there.
A
G
Okay,
that'd
be
fine,
mr
chairman,
all
right.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you
to
the
agriculture
committee.
I
think
this
concludes
our
round
of
happy
resolutions
for
the
year.
So
what
a
great
great
way
to
conclude
this
morning
house
resolution
15
celebrates
national
agricultural
day
on
march
22nd.
I
have
with
me
here
representing
department
of
agriculture,
mr
keith
rogers
national
agriculture
day
is
truly
important
to
all
of
us.
You
all
feel
free.
The
resolution
speaks
for
itself
absolutely,
but
if
y'all
want
any
member
of
the
committee
want
to
say
a
few
words.
I
totally
understand.
H
H
I
understand
and
keith
you
may
want
to
comment
on
this
and
I
guess
my
question
is:
what
are
the
major
challenges
facing
farmers
and
agriculture
in
kentucky
today?
I
know
we've
got
extremely
high
input
cost
right
now.
Could
you
just
share
a
little
bit
from
the
department's
perspective
about
what
some
of
the
challenges
are
and
what
some
of
the
bright
spots
are
for
agriculture.
O
I'd
be
glad
to
representative
temptation
appreciate
that
opportunity.
You
know
any
time
that
you
have
a
situation
as
we
have
and
all
of
our
hearts
go
out
to
the
folks
of
ukraine.
It's
just
a
it's
a
sad
situation
of
what
we're
seeing
and
happen
over
there,
but
when
you
have
a
situation
like
that,
you
have
the
volatility
in
the
marketplace
both
for
our
agriculture
commodities
that
we
produce,
but
the
inputs
such
as
fertilized
and
oil
that
come
out
of
that
part
of
the
world.
O
It
just
puts
our
farmers
in
a
catch-22
that
they
have
no
control
over.
I
spoke
with
a
farmer
this
weekend
from
west
kentucky
who
said
yes.
Wheat
prices
are
at
record
price
record
at
levels
at
this
point,
but
nobody
will
enter
into
a
contract
at
that
price
level.
You
know
we.
We
understand
that
the
inputs,
whether
it
be
diesel,
fuel
or
fertilizer,
whatever
crop
inputs
are,
are
really.
O
You
know
rapidly
increased
over
the
last
several
months,
even
before
the
ukraine
invasion,
but
when
they're
unable
to
take
advantage
of
the
upside
on
the
commodity
prices
to
help
offset
that
it
really
puts
them
at
a
disadvantage.
But
you
know
we:
we
continue
to
monitor
the
situation.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
keep
thinking
through
this
as
I've
always
have
and
representative,
and
you
not
go
back
a
long
way
in
the
agriculture
community,
farm
bureau
and
everywhere
else,
but
I
always
focus
on
the
long
term.
Yeah.
O
The
short
term
hurts
in
the
short
term,
can
be
devastating
to
our
bottom
line,
but
in
the
long
term
we
have
a
strong
agriculture
industry
in
the
united
states.
We
have
a
strong
network
of
trade
partners
across
across
the
world
and
even
though
we
may
be
going
through
a
very
difficult
time,
that's
painful
for
a
lot
of
our
farmers.
We're
going
to
come
out
the
other
end,
much
better,
for
it.
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
represent
mcpherson.
E
Just
to
comment,
you
know:
people
talk
all
the
time
about
problem
with
our
society
today
and
we
can
debate
that
all
day.
But
I
think
one
of
the
big
problems
is
the
loss
of
the
family
farm
when
the
family
farm
is
losing
and
leaving
and
going
more
to
a
factory
type
situation,
the
the
next
generation.
E
E
You
know
we
we
gained
together
and
we
lost
together
and
we
had
a
sense
of
accomplishment.
We
had
a
sense
of
work
ethic
and
I
think
that's
something
that,
because
we're
losing
the
family
farm
people
want
to
know
when
they
hire
people,
why
they
can't
expect
them
to
come
to
work
on
time,
why
they
don't
have
the
work
ethic
that
they
used
to
have,
and
I
think
the
loss
of
the
family
farm
is
a
big
big
problem
with
this.
So
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing.
G
A
I
appreciate
you
bringing
the
resolution
representative.
It
gives
us
reason
to
pause
and
stop
and
reflect
and-
and
I
think
that's
the
purpose
of
the
resolution-
it's
you
know
how
the
it
goes
out
of
sight
out
of
mind
if
we
never
stop
and
think
about
these
things,
and
then
we
tend
to
just
roll
on
with
life.
A
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
We,
the
state
government
and
the
department
of
agriculture
is
no
different
than
many
of
your
all's
businesses
or
our
businesses
across
the
state
of
kentucky
and
across
the
country
and
hiring
in
this.
You
know,
hopefully,
the
end
of
the
pandemic,
but
basically
in
a
situation
where
labor
skill
labor
particularly,
is
short,
and
it's
short
on
our
farms
too.
It's
our
our
farm
community
is
really
really
hurting.
O
I
know
we're
running
into
issues
and
getting
h2a
workers
into
the
united
states
right
now
because
of
some
of
the
issues
related
to
the
ukraine
war,
but
I
know
that
you
all
in
the
house
have
addressed
salary
increases
and
I
certainly
look
forward
to
seeing
what
the
senate
puts
forward
in
their
budget
too,
but
we
have
faced
over
the
last
couple
of
years
some
real
difficulty
in
one
retaining
skilled
employees
at
the
department
of
agriculture,
but
really
in
recruiting
our
salary
levels
are
completely
out
of
line
with
where
the
private
sector
is.
O
I
can
give
you
an
example
in
the
organics
program
that
we
certify
our
starting
salary
in
organics
is
right
at
thirty
thousand
dollars.
The
private
sector
is
forty
four
thousand
dollars
for
an
organic
inspector.
What
we
do
what
happens
is
we
bring
somebody
on?
We
spend
five,
seven
thousand
dollars
in
training
them,
and
then
the
private
sector
comes
in
and
sweeps
them
out
and
we
have
to
start
all
over
again.
It's
been
a
difficult
challenge
there.
O
I
had
a
call
yesterday
in
the
efforts
of
trying
to
hire
a
deputy
state
veterinarian
again
we
are
just
nowhere
near
competitive
on
the
national
level
salary
level
of
where
that
type
of
person
or
type
of
caliber
experience
has
to
be
the
commissioner
directed
myself
and
our
hr
director
a
little
over
a
year
ago
to
do
what
we
could
within
the
budget
that
we
did
I'll
share
with
you.
When
the
commissioner
arrived
in
office
six
years
ago,
the
last
ag
inspector
won
that
was
hired
at
the
department.
O
Before
we
got
there
was
hired
at
twenty
one
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
an
annual
salary
of
twenty
one
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars.
We
immediately
without
any
additional
revenue
raised,
that
to
twenty
five
thousand
and
a
little
over
a
year
ago,
he
challenged
me
and
our
hr
director
to
get
everyone
to
thirty
thousand
last
may.
In
june.
O
We
implemented
that
plan
with
the
new
reclassification
of
some
of
those
lower
paid
positions
such
as
an
ag
inspector
one,
and
we've
got
everybody
now,
two
thirty
thousand
after
their
pro
six
months,
probationary
period,
they're
at
least
at
30
or
just
above
30,
000
dollars.
But
we've
done
that
internally.
We've
done
that
with
money
savings
we
have,
we
did
not
have
the
ability
to
do
much
else
beyond
that,
and
so
we
we
do.
O
Thank
you
for
the
efforts
that
you
all
have
made
in
your
house
budget,
and
we
certainly
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
the
senate,
through
conference
committee,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
retain
the
employees
and
recruit
the
employees
that
we
need
to
support
agriculture.
Our
regulatory
functions,
such
as
gas
pumps
and
amusement,
rides
and
also
be
able
to
to
further
advance
kentucky
agriculture,
and,
let
me
say
thank
you
to
representative
reid,
also
for
this
resolution
and
the
others
that
he's
put
forward
this
year.
He
is
a
strong
supporter
of
agriculture.
O
I
don't
think
I
have
to
tell
you
all
that
and
I'm
very
proud
to
call
him
my
neighbor.
Actually,
our
we're
I'm
hardin
county
he's
larue,
but
we're
neighbors
so
appreciate
that
thanks.
Mr
chairman,.
A
Thank
you
and
appreciate
the
update.
Obviously,
kentucky
department
of
agriculture
is
part
of
national
agriculture.
Any
closing
comments,
representative
stevenson
almost
overlooked.
You.
M
That's
quite
all
right
I
mean
I
just
wanted
to
take
the
opportunity
to
to
thank
representative
reed
for
bringing
this.
You
know
it's
evident
that
agriculture
is
essential,
but
I
really
want
to
commend
our
kentucky
farmers
and
for
all
that
they've
done
and
that
they
continue
to
do
to
bring
us
high
quality
products.
M
You
know
a
lot
of
people
have
struggled
the
last
couple
years,
but
I
think
the
farmers
here
in
kentucky
really
proved
their
resiliency
and
I'm
just
so
proud
of
that.
I'm
proud
of
the
industry,
and
I'm
I'm
grateful
that
we
have
such
you
know
a
strong
such
strong
ag
programs,
and
you
know
that
the
industry
here
in
kentucky
is
going
strong.
A
R
Thank
you,
representative,
reed
and
chairman
heath,
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
ronnie
pryor,
with
the
firm
capital
solutions,
and
I
represent
two
long
time:
clients
in
this
space,
the
kentucky
poultry
federation
and
their
staff
and
employees
and
and
members
and
tyson
foods
and
and
so,
and
we're
obviously
a
major
player
at
not
only
in
kentucky
but
in
the
us
and
in
the
world.
R
You
know,
if
you
look
at
things
in
the
poultry
industry,
1.2
billion
dollars
of
revenue,
300
million
broilers
per
year
in
kentucky
now
think
about
that
one
for
a
second
365
days,
300
million
broilers-
and
it's
not
just
you
know-
and
the
poultry
industry
is
the
largest
single
buyer
of
corn
and
soybeans
in
kentucky,
and
if
you
live
close
to
a
a
a
feed
mill
for
a
poultry
company,
you
know
that,
because
you
know
what
kind
of
premiums
they
pay
to
get
the
product
kentucky
is
a
it's
a
big
turkey
state.
R
You
probably
don't
know
that
you
know
everybody
thinks
about
turkey
at
thanksgiving,
but
they
come
from
somewhere
and
guess
what
a
lot
of
them
are
coming
from
kentucky
now,
millions
and
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
worth
are
coming
from
kentucky.
I
was
down
the
cafeteria
representative
heath
this
morning
and
had
a
couple
of
my
usually
hard
eggs
and
and
bacon
with
them,
and
you
don't
think
about
kentucky.
R
It's
an
egg
state
and
keith
rogers
was
in
the
egg
business
for
many
many
years
we
have
two
counties
in
kentucky
todd,
county,
muhlenberg
county
that
produce
20
million
eggs
a
week
a
week,
and
so
you
know
things
are
hitting
on
all
cylinders
with
the
poultry
industry,
we're
very
thankful
for
having
that
industry
and
expansion
in
kentucky
representative
dixon.
I
know
you
have
a
tyson
plant
there
in
the
the
edge
of
of
your
district
and
and
really
in
the
middle
of
it.
R
You
know,
there's
there's,
certainly
one
over
in
albany
kentucky
they
own.
You
know
non-poultry
things,
the
kentucky
pepperoni
plant
in
northern
kentucky
and
I
think
they
just
announced
representing
mcpherson
the
largest
bacon
plant
in
the
world
in
bowling
green
kentucky.
R
So,
but
I
also
want
to
thank
representative
reid,
you
know
he's
like
the
mailman.
He
always
delivers
and
he
recognizes
the
importance
of
agriculture,
not
just
in
his
life,
but
in
everybody's
life
and
again
sometimes
it's
taken
for
granted
and
and
represented
mcpherson.
You
mentioned
the
family
farm
again,
people
think
about
these
mega
corporations
in
the
poultry
industry.
E
So,
as
a
real
estate
appraiser
I've
appraised
quite
a
few
of
these
and
you're
exactly
right.
There
they're
kind
of
the
new
dairy
because
you've
got
to
be
there
to
collect
those
eggs
and
you've
got
to
be
there
and
everybody
takes
part.
Everybody
from
the
small
kids
to
the
to
the
grown
adults
can
take
part
in
that
and
it
it
just
brings
the
family
unit
back
together.
E
R
And
we
had
a
couple
setbacks
you
know,
but
in
the
last
few
months,
obviously
the
tornadoes
represented
heath.
You
know
that
better
than
anybody
it
you
know
hit
the
pilgrims
feed
meal
hit
some
farmers
down
there
very
hard.
We
had
a
little
ballot,
as
as
some
of
you
know,
with
avian
influenza
than
far
west
kentucky
and
the
fulton
hickman
county
area.
Unfortunately,
that's
been
contained
at
this
point
so,
but
somebody
mentioned
the
word
resiliency
resilient
and
our
farmers
are
and
our
poultry
farmers
are
and
we're
here
for
the
long
haul.
A
Thank
you
and
speaking
of
the
tornado,
I
know
pilgrims
lost
two
hatcheries
and
it's
going
to
adversely
affect
our
farmers
going
forward.
My
understanding
is
they're
only
going
to
be
able
to
produce
half
the
chicks
that
our
farmers
need
or
half
of
what
they
received
last
year,
so
we're
still
waiting
to
see
what
the
fallout
from
that
is.
But
it's
amazing
what
one
tornado
can
do
to
interrupt
the
entire
food
chain.
R
A
Thank
you
for
saying
that
it's
so
easy
to
forget.
If
we
don't
keep
reminding
any
other
comments,
we
will
pass
this
one
with
a
voice
vote.
Also
I'll.
I
guess
we
need
a
motion
motion
in
a
second
on
resolution,
36
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Any
opposed,
nay
and
resolution
carries.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.