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Description
Meeting Start 00:00
Roll Call 00:14
Intro 00:58
HB 222 Discussion 02:58
HB 222 Roll Call 04:50
HB 160 Discussion 06:17
HB 160 Roll Call 13:40
Meeting End 14:31
A
C
Dodson
here,
foreign
representative
Flannery
representative
Fugate
representative
Gentry,
here
representative
grossberg
representative
Johnson,
here
representative
McCool,
here
representative
miles
here,
representative
Smith,
representative
Williams,
here
representative
Wesley,
here,
representative
White
and
chair
Gooch.
Here.
A
So
with
that
we
did
have
a
meeting
earlier
this
month.
We
did
introduce
our
new
members,
but
we
want
to
welcome
those
members
again,
but
they
they
have
already
been
introduced.
So
anything
else
we
don't
have
minutes
breathing.
So
we
have
two
bills
that
we're
going
to
take
up
today:
House
Bill
160
and
then
House
Bill
222
I
would
like
to
turn
this
meeting
over
to
my
co-chairman
and
let
him
share.
While
I
go
to
the
table
to
present
house
bill
222.
E
E
E
A
B
A
B
Well,
representative
I
do
appreciate
you
being
willing
to
sponsor
this
bill
and
reauthorize
this
fee,
not
not
to
not
to
take
too
much
time,
but
this
is
a
it's
1.8
million
dollars
and
we
use
this
for
to
do
a
lot
of
good.
It
supports
our
Emergency
Response
Team
and
we're
able
to
address
Superfund
sites,
for
which
there's
not
a
viable
responsible
party.
B
A
I
think
we
all
just
have
seen
recent
events
where
you
had
the
train,
derailment
and
fire
in
in
Ohio,
and
we
see
that
these
types
of
cleanup
funds
are
very
important.
The
last
time
this
was
renewed
was
in
2015.
I
was
the
sponsor.
It
was
House
Bill
417,
so
this
is
going
to
reauthorize
it
for
another.
How
many
years,
eight
years,
eight
years,
okay,
great
so.
E
D
B
E
A
G
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Chris,
Freeland
state,
representative
district,
six
and
my
guest
is
Stephen
Robertson,
the
general
principal
for
frost,
Brown
Todd.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
and
let
me
proceed
yes,
okay.
This
is
House
Bill
160,
and
this
is
a
clarifying
language
from
a
bill
that
we
passed
in
this
body
in
2021.
G
It's
relating
to
Industrial
Wastewater
permitting,
and
this
bill
is,
is
a
collaboration
between
the
environmental
cabinet
and
Industry,
and
you
like
to
see
when
that
happens,
when
they
can
work
together
and
get
good
things
done,
and
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
involved
into
making
this
happen
and
I'll
invite
Steve.
If
he'd
like
to
say
a
few
words
about
this,
he
can
do
so,
and
Mr
Tony
Hatton
from
the
environmental
cabinet
is
here
as
well
to
answer
any
questions
motion.
H
My
concern
is
that
the
language
would
not
open
the
door
to
recreating
or
Reviving
mixing
zones
that
were
eliminated
during
the
three
or
four
rounds
of
Permitting
decisions
since
2004,
but
instead
that
this
is
limiting
language
on
how
the
cabinet
deals
with
such
pre-2004
mixing
zones
for
biocumulative,
toxins
that
might
still
be
in
effect.
Thank
you.
G
D
You
thank
you
representative,
so
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
speak
this.
Obviously
this
bill
was
passed
two
years
ago.
I
don't
want
to
speak
as
to
whether
or
not
any
of
the
pre-2004
mixing
zones
were
revived.
I
know
the
cabinet
has
Personnel
in
the
room
and
they
could
probably
speak
to
whether
that's
occurred.
D
I
do
know
that
the
original
language
of
House
Bill
386
from
2021,
was
intentional
in
in
the
fact
that
it
did
mirror
the
verbatim
wording
of
Kentucky
administrative
regulations
at
the
cabinet
about
these
mixing
zones,
and,
and
certainly
it
would
have
stated,
as
it
was
written,
that
that
those
mixing
zones
would
have
been
back
in
effect.
The
problem
with
that
original
bill
was
that
the
only
tool
available
to
the
cabinet
would
have
been
through
issuing
additional
administrative
regulations
in
order
to
extinguish
those
mixing
zones.
D
This
bill
actually
gives
the
cabinet
a
workable
tool
through
their
existing
permitting
process.
To
address
that,
and
in
fact,
if
there
is
a
kpds
holder
who
who
wants
to
utilize
one
of
those
pre-2004
mixing
zones
under
this
bill,
they
would
have
to
identify
that
in
a
permit
renewal
or
in
a
permit
modification
request
to
the
cabinet.
Who
would
then
have
their
normal,
permitting
process
available
to
them
to
decide.
If
that
was
appropriate
or
not.
E
A
I
Members
of
the
committee,
I
I,
did
not
expect
to
be
back
here,
but
it
is
a
privilege
to
be
here.
Tom
Fitzgerald
I
used
to
be
director
of
the
Kentucky
Resources
Council
for
about
37
years.
I
would
like
to
introduce
Ashley
Wilms,
who
is
the
director
of
the
Kentucky
Resources,
Council
and
I
know
that
you
will
be
as
courteous
and
and
as
attentive
to
her.
As
you
have
been
to
me
these
past
45
four
years
now
so,
but
it
is,
it
is
a
privilege
to
be
back
here.
I
Representative
Burke
I
appreciate
the
question
that
you
asked
when
this
bill
was
initially
adopted
a
couple
of
years
back
Mr
chairman,
you
remember
that
representative
duplessy
and
I
kind
of
geeked
out
talking
about
some
Wastewater
issues,
because
that's
what
he
did
for
a
living.
The
concern
I
had
was
that
it
required
the
cabinet
to
undertake
actions
that
might
have
jeopardized
our
continued
Primacy
in
waste
in
Wastewater,
permitting
under
the
npdes
program.
This
bill
fixes
those
problems
and
I
appreciate.
I
The
question
the
one
question
that
I
did
have
was
the
question
that
representative
Burke
alluded
to,
and
that
is
that
there
were
mixing
zones
that
were
granted
back
before
2004
that
would
have
allowed
dilution
of
bioaccumulative
chemicals
and,
of
course,
dilution
of
something
that
is
bioaccumulative,
doesn't
is
not
an
appropriate
strategy
and
the
cabinet
recognized
that
back
in
2004,
Steve
I
think
is
right.
There
haven't
been
in
the
last
two
years
that
that
language
was
in
effect,
I.
B
B
C
F
G
A
Bill
that's
passed
with
favorable
expression
that
same
should
pass
and
I
just
want
to
mention
that
we
probably
will
meet
again
next
week.
Our
regular
time
spot
is
8
to
10,
but
I
have
another
committee
meeting
that
meets
at
eight,
so
we
will
normally
try
to
meet
at
nine
if
we
can
get
all
of
our
business
in.
If
there
may
be
an
occasion
where
we
have
to
meet
a
little
earlier,
but
I
appreciate
everyone
being
there.
So
we're
open
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
Mr.