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A
A
A
A
I
do
see
a
superintendent
from
my
district
kirby
smith
back
there
with
councilman
appended
schools,
kirby
good
to
have
you
here
this
morning
joining
us
seeing
no
further
introductions.
We
do
have
a
presentation
to
start
off
this
morning
and
it's
involving
evolv
502
and
if
we
could
have
those
members
that
are
testifying
on
behalf
of
that,
I
think
miss
cole,
the
executive
director
of
evol
502
for
those
members,
not
with
the
background
and
understanding
about
evolvo
2,
we're
inviting
them
today
to
talk
about
a
major
challenge
in
their
community.
A
That's
making
post-secondary
education
an
achievable
goal
and
evolv
502
is
aiming
to
remove
barriers
in
their
community,
promote
the
skilled
and
educated
workforce
for
their
community
needs
to
remain
competitive.
I
met
with
this
group,
I
think
virtually
earlier
this
year
and
loved
what
you
all
had
and
appreciate
you
all
being
here
this
morning
and
so
miss
cole.
The
floor
is
yours.
You
just
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
Please.
A
C
So
with
guidance
and
support
from
local
and
national
partners.
Evol
502
was
established
to
carry
out
this
at
work
moving
forward
as
a
public-private
partnership.
It
is
our
vision
to
ensure
that
every
child
is
prepared
for
college
career
and
a
successful
productive
life,
with
a
strong
emphasis
on
equitable
access
to
resources
and
supports.
C
C
C
C
We
have
many
students
to
participate
in
academies
of
louisville
programs
within
jefferson
county
that
may
just
need
to
complete
a
credential
or
they
might
be
interested
in
getting
certified
in
a
particular
trade.
They
can
use
this
opportunity
for
that
as
well
and
for
those
that
might
want
a
pathway
to
a
four-year
degree
again,
they
can
use
this
opportunity.
So
we
are
truly
meeting
young
people
where
they
are
and
providing
them
options
to
reach
the
goals
that
they
have
for
themselves.
C
From
our
support
agenda
and
really
of
all
our
work,
we
really
look
at
this
sort
of
pathway
to
post-secondary
education
and
focus
on
those
transition
points
from
cradle
to
career.
So
you
can
see
we're
focusing
in
on
you
know,
preschool
and
kindergarten
readiness,
all
the
way
to
post-secondary
completion
and
job
attainment.
C
Again,
we
worked
with
over
a
hundred
sites,
many
of
our
again
out
of
out
of
school
time
providers,
churches,
other
civic
organizations.
We
had
side
jcps
schools
within
our
ymcas
and
so
again
over
a
hundred
sites
throughout
our
community,
providing
the
same
level
of
quality
instruction
and
support.
We
had
about
20
enrichment
providers
that
came
in
to
provide
special
learning
for
our
young
people.
We
were
able
to
hire
college
of
education
students
to
help
us
with
staffing
and
providing
leadership
support.
C
We
had
coveted
testing,
and
so
it
was
a
real
opportunity
for
us
to
pull
together
and
have
the
full
community
coming
together
and
really
showed
us
how
we
can
collaborate
around
this
work
moving
forward
and
we
intend
to
continue
to
focus
in
and
lean
into
that
model.
As
we
move
forward
as
members
of
the
senate
education
committee,
you
know
the
value
of
some
education
beyond
high
school,
whether
it
be
a
degree,
a
credential,
a
certificate
and
how
this
not
only
impacts
the
earning
power
for
a
student,
but
how
it
also
contributes
to
a
growing
economy.
C
So
we
know
it's
critically
important
to
have
to
be
able
to
really
retain
and
recruit
business
in
our
communities
to
have
a
skilled
workforce.
It
also
adds
to
a
larger
tax
space
when
we
have
a
more
educated
workforce,
redemption
growth
as
a
benefit
from
that
and
a
reduction
in
crime,
and
so
that
is
why
we
are
really
focused
on
this
effort
and
feel
like
it's
a
tremendous
effort.
Moving
for
us
moving
forward
as
a
community.
C
Our
goal
to
make
this
scholarship
opportunity
available
for,
like
I
said,
a
whole
generation
of
students,
will
be
a
50
million
dollar
price
tag.
We
are
grateful
for
the
support
we
have
had
so
far
thanks
to
groups
like
the
cens
foundation,
who
provided
a
matching
grant
for
us
that
really,
I
think,
motivated
our
community
business
leaders,
other
foundations,
individuals
and
louisville
metro
government
to
step
up
in
a
big
way
and
provide
support
to
date.
C
We
would
welcome
the
opportunity
for
state
support
in
the
future
and
we
believe
our
model
could
really
be
duplicated
and
replicated
throughout
kentucky
and
we
would
be
honored
to
partner
and
collaborate
with
you
all
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
today
and
for
allowing
us
to
visit
with
you.
A
D
Thank
you,
miss
cole
and
I'm
very
impressed
with
with
evolv
502
and
what
you've
done.
My
question
I'm
so
impressed
is
this.
I
want
to
build
upon
your
last
statement
you.
You
have
said
that
this
is
a
a
program
that
you
like
to
take
statewide
and
can
use
statewide.
I
come
from
the
city
of
lexington
and
we're
doing
some
great
things
there
with
the
carter
g
whistling
academy.
D
You
know,
as
you
achieve
your
goal,
and
I
don't
know
if
you're
looking
for
some
for
some
assistance
from
the
state
government,
but
I
would
like
for
you
to
to
connect
with
some
of
our
outstanding
education
leaders
in
kentucky
to
bring
this
program
to
lexington,
because
it
certainly
can
be
useful
there,
as
well
as
in
other
areas.
But
are
you
going
to
stay
for
the
entire
committee
meeting.
D
Okay,
I
would
like
to
connect
with
you
to
give
you
the
names
of
of
of
two
individuals
I
like
for
you
to
connect
with,
because
I
said
we're
doing
outstanding
things
in
lexington.
I'd
like
for
you
to
to
come
to
lexington
or
have
them
come
to
you
in
louisville
and
bring
this
program
to
lexington
as
well,
because
we've
got
toyota
there.
We've
we've
got
a
number
of
other
major
companies.
There
we've
got
the
university
of
kentucky
there.
We've
got
transfer
transylvania
university.
D
C
Can
be
sure,
and
we
we
would
love
to
partner
and
share
our
learning,
obviously
alone.
We
can't
do
that
work.
We
would
need
the
partnership
of
the
state,
but
we
do
think
this
could
be
a
model
that
could
help
every
community
throughout
kentucky
and
similar
to
what
you
see
in
tennessee
and
and
other
promising.
D
C
D
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
want
to
commend
you
on
bringing
marlon
co.
I
want
to
join
you
in
welcoming
her
to
the
education
senate
education
committee.
E
We
followed
this
program
for
a
time
in
the
number
of
people
that
worked
along
with
the
program
and
the
excellent
leadership
that
marlon
cole
has
brought
to
the
program,
and
I'm
just
here
to
vouch
for
it.
It
is
a
very
strong,
focused
and
embraced
program
and
it's
effective,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
understand
this
is
one
of
these
gems
that
and
I'm
glad
that
senator
from
fed
has
reached
out,
because
exactly
this
is
something
I
think
we
can
use
statewide.
E
B
F
You
for
your
presentation,
you
did
an
excellent
job
and
it
sounds
like
a
fantastic
program,
particularly
since
it
has
a
history
and
I'm
sure,
there's
been
a
lot
of
learning
experiences
for
you
along
the
way,
and
that's
part
of
my
question
is
obviously
fundraising
is
an
important
component
of
this.
Yes,
are
there
any
other
obstacles
to
success
in
this
program,
and
then
I
think
this
goes
back
to
your
experience
of
dealing
with
this
says.
What
else
do
we
need
to
do,
besides,
fundraising,
increasing
scholarships
to
to
make
this
successful.
C
Sure,
thank
you
for
your
question.
We
are
somewhat
still
while
we
have
been
at
this
for
actually
three
years
going
into
our
fourth
year,
still
in
our
infancy
in
this
program,
and
we
have
been
looking
at
other
programs
across
the
country
and
learning
from
them.
C
But
I
think
we
are
understanding
more
and
more,
and
this
was
not
new,
but
definitely
the
pandemic
has
really
lifted
this
up,
that
our
young
people
are
struggling
and
it
has
a
much
more
to
do
with
their
life
circumstances
rather
than
their
ability
to
learn,
and
we
are
really
going
to
have
to
wrap
our
continue
to
wrap
our
arms
around
our
young
people
to
give
them
that
confidence
and
that
encouragement
that
they
can
make
a
difference
and
that
they
can
do
this
and
that
we
are
yes.
G
C
And
so
I
think
a
challenge
is
just
to
encourage
young
people
to
keep
them
on
the
path
to
provide
those
intentional
supports,
and
we
are
still
working
with
our
partners
to
figure
out
how
this
will
look
moving
forward.
But
we
know
we
need
to
do
more
intentional
outreach
with
our
young
people
to
keep
them
on
the
path,
but
we
do
believe
this
can
be
a
success
and
really
appreciated
the
support
of
the
community,
and
so
I
think
it
too
from
a
fundraising
standpoint.
C
It
is
getting
the
word
out
more
and
helping
people
connect
to
why
this
is
important,
how
it
really
impacts
the
economy.
So
you
know
selfishly,
it
helps
our
community
as
well
as
it
helps
individuals,
and
so,
but
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we're
learning
and
challenges
that
we're
we're
working
through.
F
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
would
hope-
maybe
you're
not
going
to
have
a
conversation
in
the
future.
I'd
like
to
know
what
your
other
measurements
of
success
are.
Certainly
the
number
of
kids
we
have
educated
is
a
prime
one,
but
I
think
there
are
probably
some
others
besides
that
that
we'd
want
to
take
a
look
at,
but
again
I
commend
you
for
a
great
job
great
program.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you
senator
meredith,
mr
thank
you
again
excellent
presentation.
Look
forward
to
continue
to
watching
eval
502
evolve
more.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
A
You're
very
welcome.
We
have
three
bills
on
the
agenda
for
today.
One
of
those
bills
is
from
a
member
of
the
senate,
who
is
not
on
the
education
committee
I'ma.
Let
him
go
first,
that
being
senate
bill
151
for
his
time
frame,
and
that
is
senator
jason
howe.
It's
an
act
relating
to
school,
breakfast
senator
howe.
Welcome
to
the
senate
education
committee.
A
H
H
I
know
senator
higdon
had
some
questions
about
it
that
I've
addressed
with
him,
hopefully
to
his
satisfaction,
but
at
least
there's
more
information
going
back
and
forth
this
bill,
as
some
of
you
will
recall,
is
to
clear
up
any
questions
that
school
districts
might
have
on
whether
they're
allowed
to
feed
children
when
they
come
in
late
for
school
right
now,
there's
some
discrepancy,
I
think
probably
a
majority
of
our
school
districts
are
already
doing
this.
H
I
think
most
of
them
will
one
of
senator
higdon's
questions
last
year
was
about
taking
away
from
instructional
time,
which
is
something
we're
always
real
sensitive
to,
but
this
changes
it
to
make
sure
that
that
they
take
their
their
breakfast
in
the
classroom,
at
least
so
to
address
part
of
that.
I
think.
That's
all
the
highlights
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but
I'd
like
to
turn
this
over
to
leah
fagan,
to
kind
of
walk
you
through
how
this
looks
in
real
life,
with
kids.
I
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
letting
me
join
you
today.
My
name
is
leah
fagan
and
I'm
very
appreciative
that
senator
howe
is
leading
the
way
in
the
senate
to
ensure
this
important
legislation
senate
bill
151
is
discussed
today
in
the
room.
Today
are
some
other
members
of
kentucky's
educational
community,
including
jack
minyard,
harlan,
county
schools,
food
service
director
he's
also
our
kentucky
school
nutrition
association
president
and
steve
abbott
campbell
county
schools,
food
service
director,
who
is
also
our
kentucky
school
nutrition
association.
I
I
Others
here
have
first-hand
stories
about
the
importance
of
removing
the
barriers
to
breakfast
and
the
impact
that
senate
bill
151
would
have
on
their
students
as
well.
I'm
grateful
for
this
opportunity
to
give
remarks
on
behalf
of
so
many
of
my
colleagues
and
counterparts
from
other
communities,
including
mayfield,
independent
schools.
I
This
legislation
to
remove
the
barrier
to
breakfast
will
impact
thousands
of
our
students
and
I've
seen
firsthand
the
impact
that
breakfast
has
on
learning
by
clarifying
the
current
law
senate
bill.
151
will
give
school
districts
like
mine
in
mayfield
the
authority
to
allow
breakfast
to
be
served
to
those
who
need
it
most,
the
hungry
students.
The
legislation
will
allow
students
who
qualify
for
free
and
reduced
meals
to
eat
their
breakfast
during
the
first
15
minutes
of
the
instructional
time,
wherever
that
may
be,
whether
it's
a
hallway
a
classroom,
a
cafeteria
setting.
I
Let
me
be
clear:
if
this
legislation
passes,
it
will
not
create
a
breakfast
period.
School
districts
can
implement
breakfast
during
instructional
time
quite
easily,
and
our
students
can
learn
and
listen
while
having
their
most
important
meal
of
the
day,
because,
as
you
know,
the
majority
of
those
students
are
receiving
the
majority
of
their
important
meals
each
day
from
us.
I
It's
much
harder,
however,
to
keep
a
student
engaged
during
the
school
day
if
they're
hungry
it's
been
found,
in
fact
that
on
average,
students
who
eat
school
breakfast
achieve
17.5
percent
higher
scores
on
standardized
math
tests
and
schools
that
serve
breakfast
in
their
classroom,
see
as
much
as
7.2
percent
lower
rate
of
chronic
absenteeism,
and,
I
think,
there's
many
teachers.
That
would
also
tell
you,
the
students
are
more
behaved,
also
and
attentive.
I
We
have
only
seen
an
increase
in
students
arriving
late
or
just
before
the
bill
with
no
time
left
for
breakfast
since
the
devastating
tornadoes
that
ripped
through
our
town
on
december
10th.
I
ask
you
to
take
a
moment
to
think
about
a
child,
maybe
a
first
grader.
Let's
call
her
annie
annie
spends
40
minutes
on
the
bus
on
her
way
to
school.
She
misses
school
breakfast
because
the
bus
arrives
late,
the
bell's
ringing
she
has
to
go
straight
to
class
and
he
didn't
have
breakfast
at
home.
I
So
she'll
be
hungry
until
lunch,
we
can
change
annie's
story,
you
can
help
change,
annie's
story
by
passing
senate
bill.
151
annie
can
go
to
her
first
class
and
breakfast
can
be
given
to
her
and
her
classmates,
who
missed
breakfast
before
the
bell,
and
then
they
can
eat
the
provided
meal.
While
attendance
is
taken,
announcements
are
made
and
the
instruction
begins.
I
Those
first
15
minutes
are
plenty
of
time
for
annie
to
have
a
nutritious
breakfast
and
never
miss
a
moment
of
learning
plus.
She
will
likely
be
able
to
focus
more
during
her
lessons
because
she
isn't
so
hungry,
and
this
will
be
a
win
for
annie
and
teachers
alike.
I'm
asking
you
to
please
support
senate
bill
151
and
ensure
students
in
mayfield
and
across
the
state
have
the
opportunity
to
begin
their
day
with
breakfast.
I
A
J
Hello-
and
thank
you
for
having
me
here,
my
name-
is
dan
elenor.
I
am
the
assistant
director
for
school
and
community
nutrition
services.
Jefferson,
county
public
schools,
I
was
excited
to
see.
502
evolve,
give
a
presentation.
We
worked
with
them
as
they
mentioned,
giving
meals
throughout
the
community.
Throughout
the
pandemic,
we've
served
over
13
million
meals
since
the
start
of
the
pandemic,
either
curbside
or
through
the
evolve
program.
J
We
can
take
the
lessons
learned
from
the
pandemic
and
take
this
directly
with
the
use
of
this
bill
into
the
classroom
and
feed
students
wherever
they
are.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
major
things
that
we
can
do
with
this
bill,
the.
Secondly,
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
that
we're
federally
funded
we're
asking
for
no
state
dollars.
J
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
senator
howe.
Thank
you
and
and
thank
you
all
for
your
presentation
day
and,
and
I
appreciate
you
working
on
this
bill
and
threading
the
needle,
because
it's
it's
very
important
that
all
children
get
fed
and
when
they
get
to
school
in
the
morning,
and
it's
also
important
that
we
don't
reduc
reduce
the
instruction
time.
But
it
still
says
in
the
bill
that
all
school
buses
are
school
districts
shall
range
bus
schedules
so
that
all
buses
arrive
in
a
sufficient,
sufficient
time
to
provide
breakfast
prior
to
the
beginning
of
school.
F
A
Thank
you,
senator
higdon.
I
see
the
two
gentlemen
back
here,
standing
behind
you
all,
I'm
assuming
you're
the
other
two
that
have
signed
up
in
support.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
make
brief
comments,
since
we
are
taking
questions
at
this
time.
If
you
would
just
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record,
please.
H
H
We
have
some
schools
that
let
us
do
breakfast
in
the
classroom
because
of
the
restrictions
and
we've
found
from
30
percent,
that
85
to
90
actually
are
participating
in
the
school
meals.
H
So
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
kids,
we're
100
cep
and
there's
a
lot
of
kids
because
of
the
long
bus
routes
that
we
have
doesn't
get
to
school
and
time
to
eat.
It's
either
be
tardy
or
or
not
eat,
so
this
would
be
a
win-win
for
the
students,
nothing
in
it
for
us
other
than
we're
able
to
feed
every
child.
H
Sorry,
this
is
steve
abbott
from
campbell
county
schools
just
piggybacking
on
some
of
the
things
that
have
already
been
said.
It's
for
us
it's
about
access.
This
would
allow
our
students
who
are
suffering
from
access
for
whatever
reason
to
have
access
to
a
healthy,
nutritious
breakfast
and
together
we
we
know
that's
the
right
thing
for
for
our
children
if
we
can
create
access
and
have
them
be
able
to
come
in
and
not
have
to
worry
about
a
meal
high
school
children.
H
We
all
know,
in
my
experience,
we
we
are
in
a
situation
where
high
school
children
have
lots
of
friends.
They
stay
up
later.
We
we
all
in
this
conversation
that
are
over
a
food
service
department.
Our
high
school
participation
is
always
a
struggle
middle
school.
It
is
a
struggle.
It
starts
at
those
ages
and
continually
is
a
struggle
for
our
school
districts.
This
bill
would
help
bridge
that
gap.
This
bill
would
help
close
and
create
access
for
our
students
to
these
meals
much
more
access
than
they
currently
have.
A
K
K
Central
west.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
question
is
for
senator
howe.
We
had
a
good
conversation
out
the
hall.
Thank
you
for
the
legislation.
My
only
question
result
revolves
around
kde
and
regulation.
You
know
we're
we're
having
to
do
a
statute
on
this.
Why?
Why
would
not
wasn't
kde
able
to
just
change
a
regulation?
Could
they
do
that
or
are
they
saying
the
existing
statutory
authority
doesn't
exist?
I
don't
understand.
H
I
don't
know
that
they're
saying
I
don't
know
that
it's
even
come
up
through
those
it's
more.
The
back
side
of
that
question
is
that
some
of
the
school
districts
are
concerned.
That
kde
will
object
to
this,
so
they
don't
do
it,
and
this
would
make
that
this
would
clear
up
any.
This
would
clear
up
any
question
about
whether
kde
would
allow
this
whether
they've,
properly
addressed
it
by
regulation.
H
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
kde
and
their
regulations
and
their
restrictions
and
what
they
do
that
have
remained
unanswered
and
probably
unaddressed
as
well.
I
don't
know
internally
what
their
process
is
with
that.
Thank
you.
A
B
L
F
So
I
commend
you
for
the
bill,
but
I
hope
maybe
this
is
a
wake-up
call
for
our
entire
education
system,
that
we've
got
to
stop
doing
this
sort
of
stuff
and
allow
people
in
their
home
districts
to
make
decisions
for
their
students
that
are
in
the
best
interest.
Nobody
knows
your
students
better
than
the
people
in
your
hometown,
your
home
communities,
and
they
should
be
allowed
to
make
the
decisions
best
interests,
other
people
and
we're
not
allowing
them
to
do
that.
F
So
again,
I
thank
you
for
bringing
the
bill
and
definitely
a
yes
on
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
G
I'm
going
to
vote
yes
and
probably
for
different
reasons
than
everybody
else
has
mentioned
and
something
I
don't
think
we're
spending
enough
time
on.
I
had
a
group
of
students
come
visit
me
a
few
weeks
ago
and
I
said
well,
you
know
what
kinds
of
things
do
we
do
up
here.
Let
me
tell
you
so
they
I
said
just
think
of
things
that
happen
in
your
life
and
I'll.
Tell
you.
G
If
we
do
it
so
pretty
much,
we
did
everything
everything
they
named
and
we
talked
about
their
cats
and
their
dogs
and
everything-
and
I
said
well
what
kind
of
things
would
you
like
and
one
girl
before
she
left
like
I
got
a
question:
can
you
make
the
school
day
shorter
and
I
was
like
absolutely.
I
will
work
on
that
because
I
believe
our
students
there's
no
need
to
sit
up
here
and
worry
about.
Oh
no,
are
they
going
to
get
15
extra
minutes?
Let's
not
kid
ourselves
that
education
is
going
on
the
full
time.
G
They're
all
in
these
classrooms,
eating
is
fine.
Talking
is
fine.
I
mean
we
need
to
get
our
kids
focused,
but
these
these
kids
are
not
spending
this
time
in
educational
instruction
anyway,
and
we
need
to
make
things
a
little
bit
more
easier
for
them
to
learn
so
that
they're
not
just
sitting
in
straight
jackets.
So
I
I
vote
yes
on
this
senator.
B
D
Mr,
like
to
explain
my
eye
vote,
please
catch
your
phone.
I
I
again
I
I
vote
I
and
sort
of
how
I
said
this
last
year
and
I'm
gonna
say
this
again
this
year.
I
am
so
glad
you
brought
this
bill.
As
senator
meredith
said
this
bill
just
makes
a
lot
of
common
sense.
I
mean
a
hungry
child
cannot
learn.
Let's
just
be
obvious.
If
we're
going
to
deny
a
child
breakfast
the
most
important
meal
of
the
day,
so
you
got
to
sit
there
until
lunch
time
that
child
is
not
going
to
learn.
D
That's
going
to
be
no
benefit
to
this.
Child
just
makes
so
so
much
sense
to
have
that
child
eat
in
the
classroom
and
learn
at
the
same
time.
We
do
it
all
the
time
as
adults.
Don't
think
anything
about
it.
You
know,
let's,
let's
help
children
learn
and
feed
them
at
the
same
time.
This
is
such
an
obvious
right
decision.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
vote.
I.
A
A
A
K
Okay,
before
you
get
started
center,
wise
chairman
wise,
will
be
speaking
to
senate
committee
substitute
one:
is
there
a
motion
to
adopt
substitute?
We
have
a
motion.
We
have
a
second.
This
is
a
voice
vote.
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
nays
eyes
have
it.
A
You,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
senate
bill.
138
is
entitled
the
teaching
american
principles
act.
The
purpose
of
the
legislation
before
you
is
to
preserve
alignment
of
middle
and
high
school
standards
with
american
principles
of
equality,
freedom
and
personal
agency.
A
One
of
the
first
questions
that
I've
got
is
senator
wise.
Why
did
you
file
this
particular
type
of
bill?
Why
do
we
need
this
at
this
time
of
our
country's
situation?
Our
time
of
our
state
questions
such
as
that,
so
amid
national
and
statewide
tensions
that
seem
to
be
further
dividing
us,
I'm
drafted
a
bill
with
the
attempt
to
unify.
A
Although
the
new
k-12
social
studies,
standards
have
been
upgraded
to
quality
performance-based
terminology,
both
educators
and
parents
have
complained
that
the
standards
seem
to
lack
specific
reference
to
key
people.
Key
events,
key
struggles
and
key
challenges,
and
also
ongoing
successes
that
have
forged
america's
democratic
principles
of
equality,
freedom
and
individual
rights.
A
They
have
also
shared
the
frustration
in
seeking
the
source
of
curriculum
authority
and
where
parents
can
get
engaged
in
the
process.
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
had
similar
questions
asked.
Where
do
I
go?
Where
do
I
turn
to
parents
are
showing
up
more
at
local
school
board
meetings,
asking
questions
and
in
which
in
return
could
possibly
lead
to
more
parents
running
for
elected
positions?
A
Third,
it
seems
that
growing
concerns
about
critical
theories
and
education
have
yielded
national
dialogue.
That
is
excuse
me
has
degenerated
into
hostile
monologues
state
legislation
that
is
being
based
on
a
negative
list
of
don'ts
and
a
media
spin
that
is
more
cynical
than
informative,
all
of
which
have
further
divided
america
rather
than
to
unify
us.
A
Members
of
this
committee
in
the
summer
saw
such
meetings
that
we
were
having
here
house
education
committee.
The
senate
took
their
chance
of
looking
at
issues
such
as
this,
and
as
we
contemplated
these
issues
during
that
2021
interim,
we
discovered
1776
unites
and
we
invited
one
of
their
main
spokesperson
if
you're
here
for
that
committee
meeting
mr
ian
rowe
to
share
his
perspective
and
his
wisdom
with
the
interim
joint
committee
on
education,
1776
unites,
is
a
project
of
the
woodson
center
that
represents
a
nonpartisan
and
intellectually
diverse
alliance
of
writers.
A
I
appreciate
the
support
of
senate
bill
138
from
those
who
have
came
to
my
office,
who
have
spoken
to
me,
and
I've
received
constituent
feedback
across
the
state
for
months.
It
has
informed
our
efforts
to
draft
and
unify
kentuckians
around
our
teaching
america
principles
act.
In
addition,
since
following
this
piece
of
legislation,
we've
also
received
valuable
feedback,
valuable
suggestions
to
address
legitimate
concerns
and
alleviate
misunderstandings
with
what
was
originally
filed.
A
I
welcome
everyone
to
came
to
my
office
and
also
provide
feedback.
Consequently,
I've
drafted
the
committee
said
before
you'd
help
clarify
my
further
willingness
to
listen
and
to
clarify
my
intent
through
responsive
revisions
to
the
following
issues.
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
the
committee
sub
at
this
time
line
by
line
the
issue
is
what
I
will
bring
up
first
and
what
I
have
addressed
in
the
committee
sub
from
the
original
bill.
Once
again,
this
is
based
off
of
social
studies,
teachers,
shareholders
and
others.
Who've
shared
with
me
concerns
page
2
lines.
A
12-17
we
focused
on
the
state
academic
standards
without
invading
local
curriculum
and
instruction.
We
simply
chose
to
extend
the
existing
elementary
standards,
which
we
currently
have
to
middle
and
high
school,
which
says
students
should
quote
describe
the
impact
of
foundational
documents
on
the
development
of
the
united
states.
A
The
second
most
commonly
identified
issue
that
I
received
senate
bill
138
limits
and
restricts
the
discussion
of
controversial
aspects
of
history
and
historical
oppression
of
a
particular
group
people,
race,
ethnicity,
class,
etc.
I
refer
also
to
page
two
in
the
committee
sub
of
lines
four
through
eleven,
although
this
absolutely
was
not
the
original
intent
of
the
bill.
I
will
agree
that
the
bill's
original
wording
was
confusing.
A
Therefore,
to
clarify
my
intent
for
more
open
classroom
discussion,
the
committee
sub
deletes
the
word
quote,
impartial
regarding
discussion
of
controversial
aspects
of
history
or
oppression
of
groups
of
people
as
someone
who's
taught
in
the
educational
classroom.
Before
I
welcome
those
discussions,
I
want
those
discussions
to
be
there.
Parents
also
want
those
discussions,
so
we
do
not
want
to
tell
a
teacher
and
by
removing
the
word
impartial
to
still
encourage
discussion
of
current
events
as
controversial.
They
may
or
may
not
be.
A
A
This
was
an
excellent
point
that
I
appreciate
all
the
educators
and
others
that
came
before
to
help
rectify
the
possibly
confusing
language
in
the
original
document.
So
I
proposed
the
following
replacement
wording
regarding
controversial
current
events
and
topics,
and
I
borrowed
this
from
language
already
and
statute
from
both
the
education,
professional
standards
board
epsb
and
the
kentucky
school
board
association
ksba,
I
eliminated
this
phrase
quote
an
employee
should
not
shall
not
be
compelled
to
teach
current
topics
or
explore
them
from
diverse
and
continuing
perspectives
without
giving
deference
to
any
one
perspective.
A
Age-Appropriate
numerous
parents
have
contacted
me.
I
get
a
lot
because
of
being
the
education
chairman.
I
get
that
it's
part
of
the
job
when
you
assume
the
chair,
you
hear
from
people
not
just
within
your
district
of
assignments
that
parents
were
seen
to
certain
grade
levels
saying
this
is
simply
not
appropriate
for
my
child,
a
lot
being
at
an
elementary
school
level.
We
understand
as
the
student
progresses
as
they
learn
books
change.
Literature
can
change,
but
there's
a
growing
concern
among
many
parents
in
this
commonwealth
about
some
of
the
assignments
that
were
being
given.
A
We're
simply
saying
that
they
should
be
knowledgeable
understanding
and
age-appropriate
maturity
of
the
students.
The
next
issue
senate
bill
138
impedes
civic
learning
about
situations
that
students
may
encounter
in
their
lives,
such
as
the
legislative
policy
process.
Many
students
teachers
were
asking.
Does
this
mean
I
can't
bring
my
students
down
to
frankfort
to
meet
you
senator
wise?
No
look
in
the
sub
page
four
beginning
with
line
26.
A
I've
continued
to
receive
complaints
from
many
students
that
are
being
offered
grades,
extra
credit
or
incentives
to
lobby
publicly
for
certain
policies,
promote
current
social
issues
or
support
specific
political
candidates.
I'm
aware
that
this
may
not
be
the
norm
for
all
completely
understand
that,
but
we
have
had
many
conversations
of
this
being
done.
A
Senator
138
diminishes
employee,
professional
growth,
inhibiting
frank
conversations
about
injustices
for
particular
groups
of
people.
I
refer
to
page
five
lines.
Three
through
five
staff
members
have
came
to
us
and
told
us
they
understand
the
need
for
such
frank
conversations,
plus
cultural
competency
and
equity
training.
A
A
A
I
can
certainly
say
that
the
documents
referenced
in
this
bill
are
not
perfect
by
any
means,
but
they
are
the
best
documents
crafted
by
any
nation
in
the
world
and
those
who
have
crafted.
Many
of
these
documents
were
not
perfect,
but
they
were
individuals
who
provided
at
that
time,
a
voice
and
a
pen
of
what
our
country
would
look
like
representing
the
voices
I've
heard
across
the
state.
A
You
know
the
best
compliment
I
ever
got
in
an
end
of
a
course
semester
for
my
past
or
current
students
was
professor
wise.
I
never
knew
what
political
party
affiliation
you
were.
While
I
had
you
as
a
professor,
not
until
I
signed
to
run
for
office,
did
my
students
not
know
I
was
republican,
because
in
my
classroom
I
would
personally
not
bring
my
ideology
into
a
classroom
setting.
My
courses
are
not
about
me.
My
courses
are
about
students,
and
I
can't
say
this
is
the
case
for
all.
A
Unfortunately,
I
know
that
it's
not
parents
and
students
want
to
be
talked
to.
They
do
not
want
to
be
preached
to,
and
I
think
this
bill
finds
a
common
ground
to
do
so.
Mr
chairman,
I
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
fully
explain
everything.
That's
in
the
sub.
Thank
you
committee
members
for
allowing
me
to
indulge
into
the
conversation
at
this
time.
I
would
welcome
my
guests,
who
may
want
to
testify
in
support
of
senate
bill
138.
Mr
chairman,.
K
Thank
you,
chairman,
wise,
as
if
they
would
come
forward,
I'm
going
to
limit
their
testimony
to
about
one
minute,
and
so
we
can
have
time
for
others
to
speak,
who
are
signed
up
against.
M
My
name
is
beanie
gohagen.
I
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
here
today
to
speak.
I
cannot
even
begin
to
tell
you
how
strange
it
is
that
I
am
sitting
here
today.
Three
years
ago
I
was
a
very
content
substitute
teacher
church
and
school
volunteer,
wife
to
my
high
school
sweetheart
and
mother
of
four
teenagers.
M
Virtual
school
changed,
at
least
some
of
that.
Instead
of
subbing,
I
was
home
watching
my
two
youngest
children's
high
school
classes
online
and
my
contentment
faded.
As
I
talked
to
more
parents
around
kentucky,
I
realized
that
I
was
not
alone.
We
were
frustrated
by
what
our
students
were
being
taught
and
very
concerned
with
what
was
not
being
taught.
We
followed
proper
protocol
by
communicating
with
the
teachers
and
appealing
to
the
school
board
in
the
process.
We
were
mocked
heckled
and
slandered
on
social
media
fast
forward
to
today
and
the
need
for
senate
bill
138.
M
B
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
timothy
king,
I'm
a
15
year
old
student.
Up
until
this
year
I
was
a
student
of
jcps,
I'm
currently
a
student
at
margaret's
christian
academy.
As
a
result
of
many
events
since
2020
I
became
aware
of
some
issues
in
my
education.
I
came
to
realize
that
there
was
a
certain
mentality
taught
and
encouraged
in
public
schools.
In
my
experience,
victimhood
was
allowed
and
often
praised.
This
could
lead
to
students
feel
like
they
are
not
able
to
achieve
their
best.
B
In
my
opinion,
students
of
jcps
are
being
taught
critical
race
theory
as
an
excuse
for
why
certain
students
of
different
races
are
not
held
to
the
same
standards
or
expectations
such
as
african-american.
Students
are
being
taught
that
they
are
not
able
to
achieve
certain
goals
like
going
to
college
having
a
stable
family
and
succeeding
in
a
good
career
because
of
the
white
man
as
a
as
an
african-american
male.
My
family
taught
me
if
I
wanted
to
to
achieve
anything.
All
to
do
is
put
my
faith
in
god
and,
put
my
mind
in
it.
B
A
M
So
I
actually
have
two
other
students
who
were
going
to
speak,
but
the
type
of
culture
that's
been
created.
They
were
afraid
to
speak
because
of
retaliation
that
they
would
get
from
school,
so
they
based
both
typed
up
their
statements
and
I
made
copies
for
everybody.
You
guys
can
read
them
if.
K
You
want
to
leave
those
we
will
make
copies
for
everyone
on
the
committee.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
At
this
time
we
will
bring
forward
those
who
are
signed
up
to
speak
against
and
we
are
really
really
tight
on
time.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
same
same
format.
K
And
since
we
have
some
people
up
here
already,
if
you
would
just
when
you're
ready,
identify
yourselves
for
the
record,
is
this
one
group
together,
okay,
gotcha
just
go
ahead:
proceed
identify
yourself
a
record
proceed.
F
My
name
is
donny
wilkerson.
I
teach
history
and
social
studies
in
jamestown
kentucky
thanks
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today.
Although
the
committee
substitute
is
a
marked
improvement
to
the
original
wording
senate
bill
138
is
nevertheless
unnecessary.
F
Much
like
the
transgender
bill
last
week.
This
is
legislation
in
search
of
a
problem.
You'll
recall
that
I
came
before
the
interim
committee
to
talk
about
the
horrors
of
the
social
studies
standards.
They
remain,
but
my
concerns
with
the
inadequacies
of
the
standards
pale
in
comparison
to
the
slippery
slope,
embraced
by
senate
bill
138,
though
some
of
the
more
egregious
wording
has
been
removed.
F
F
F
Let
me
wrap
up,
then
congress
shall
make
no
law
bridging
the
freedom
of
speech
and
the
14th
amendment
says
that
the
state
shall
make
no
law
bridging
the
privileges
of
the
united
states.
Please
reject
this
unnecessary
and
unconstitutional
bill
choose
instead
the
path
of
freedom
and
knowledge.
Thank
you.
N
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
testify.
Today.
My
name
is
verna
cahoon
and
I
chair
the
education
committee
of
the
league
of
women
voters
of
kentucky,
and
our
president
friend
wagner
asked
me
to
speak
for
the
league
today.
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
this
statement
was
written
before
the
amendment
was
read.
N
N
We
also
oppose
legislating
how
teachers
trained
and
dedicated
professionals
conduct
instructions.
Students
bring
varied
strengths,
culturals
and
experiences
to
the
classroom
and
serving
all
students
well
requires
nimble,
flexible,
responsive
teaching.
Success
for
all
learners
cannot
be
built
on
legislative
mandates
that
hamper
teachers,
ability
to
adjust
instruction
to
the
needs
of
every
student
by
imposing
tight
constraints
that
do
not
reflect
realities
in
the
classroom.
That's
about
one
minute.
N
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
dr
renee
sarton
and
I'm
the
jefferson
branch
chair
for
the
national
association
of
social
workers,
and
I
am
also
an
associate
professor
who
works
at
campbellsville
university
on
the
louisville's
campus,
I'm
here
before
you
this
afternoon,
to
discuss
senate
bill
138,
which
is
a
classroom
censorship.
This
bill
concerns
me
because
it
limits
both
important
historical
events
as
well
as
discussions
on
current
events
in
real
time.
N
History
is
at
times
uncomfortable
confronting
the
past
is
painful,
but
we
as
educators
are
not
holding
our
students
responsible
for
the
actions
of
our
ancestors
ignoring
the
past,
or
only
telling
partial
truth
does
a
disservice
to
everyone.
It's
an
injustice
to
those
whose
story
is
being
forgotten
or
falsified,
and
it
does
intellectual
harm
to
those
who
are
not
exposed
to
the
truth.
Would
you
prefer
that
educators
teach
a
view
of
history
that
does
not
even
look
like
what
really
happened
or
why
it
happened
or,
more
importantly,
how
it
affects
us
all.
Today,
that's
education.
N
Our
children
need
to
know
what
how
america
was
built
on
the
backs
of
slaves,
ignoring
the
truth
about
slavery
in
america
and
the
systemic
discrimination
that
comes
from.
That
means.
We
are
not
forced
to
question
the
historical
cruelty
inflicted
on
people
of
color
in
senate
bill
138.
You
want
to
teach
the
american
principles
among
these
are
the
values
that
all
people
are
created
equal,
but
all
of
us
in
this
room
know
that
all
people
are
not
created
equal.
We
have
students
in.
B
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
brendan
eberwein.
I
am
a
junior
at
dupont.
Manual
high
school
I've
been
in
jefferson,
county
public
schools
since
kindergarten.
I'm
here
today
to
use
my
voice
as
a
student
to
oppose
what
I
think
is
one
of
the
most
destructive
bills
to
education
in
kentucky
contrary
to
its
cited
name.
This
bill's
goals
are
not
to
teach
american
principles
but
to
create
a
curriculum
that
is
insufficient
and
whitewashed.
B
The
idea
that
an
institution
that
was
codified
in
law
reaffirmed
through
supreme
court
cases
such
as
dred
scott
and
existed
for
hundreds
of
years
in
the
united
states,
is
unimportant
and
doesn't
define
this
country
in
many
ways,
is
ignorant.
Refusing
to
acknowledge
american
history
of
oppo,
of
upholding
the
institution
of
slavery
and
segregation
is
destructive
to
our
national
healing
and
the
continuing
fight
for
equality.
B
B
The
purpose
of
history
should
be
to
educate
students
about
the
past
and
to
learn
from
the
mistakes
of
the
past,
providing
an
insufficient
history
that
washes
away
anything
unsavory
or
attempts
to
explain
it
away
as
having
no
bearing
on
the
present
to
make
students
comfortable
is
a
substandard
education.
Kentucky
students
deserve
the
truth
and
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
Anything
less
is
an
insult
to
the
students
of
the
commonwealth
of
kentucky.
O
Hello,
my
name
is
bree
woods,
I'm
a
junior
at
dupont,
manual,
high
school
and
I'm
in
our
journalism
and
communications
program.
I'm
against
senate
bill
138.
I
believe
this
bill
will
negatively
impact
my
education
as
well
as
my
fellow
students.
I
know
that
I
won't
be
in
public
school
for
much
longer,
but
I
feel
compelled
to
ensure
the
quality
of
education
students
who
come
after
me
receive
the
biggest
reason
why
I
feel
138
will
negatively
impact.
My
education
is
because
it
discourages
teachers
and
students
from
having
truthful
conversations
about
current
and
past
events.
O
As
a
jnc
student
at
my
school,
this
would
directly
harm
the
integrity
and
caliber
of
curriculum.
I
and
other
students
are
taught.
The
first
lesson
I
had
in
the
first
journalism
class
I
took
was
the
importance
of
reporting
the
truth.
Yes,
there
are
multiple
sides
to
every
story,
but
an
undeniable
fact
is
that
there's
a
correct
side
to
most
stories.
I
believe
that
if
we
always
take
an
objective
view
towards
history,
we
won't
discover
and
uncover
the
deep
wrongs
our
country
must
write.
How
will
my
generation
begin
to
create
a
brighter
future?
P
Q
Q
It
was
once
said
that
those
who
remember
the
who
cannot
remember
the
past
are
doomed
to
repeat
it
without
an
honest
reflection
on
the
bad,
as
well
as
the
good
circumstances
that
have
created
this
country.
We
will
condemn
our
youth
to
repeating
the
challenges
of
the
past
when
it
comes
to
racial
enacted,
minorities,
women
and
also
individuals
with
disabilities.
Q
Q
The
science
has
been
very
clear
that
when
it
comes
to
our
youth
of
color,
as
well
as
our
white
youth,
those
who
are
able
to
have
more
honest
conversations
about
race
and
racism
are
more
likely
to
have
more
and
better
mental
health
well-being
compared
to
those
who
don't.
In
addition,
there's
been
significant
research
to
show
that
those
who.
F
Q
L
I'll
go
okay,
hi
I'm
bear
dr
beverly
darington
moore.
I
have
a
broad
and
deep
history
and
and
as
an
educator
and
as
a
researcher
as
and
as
well
as
being
on
school
board
and
I'm
honored
to
speak
to
you
today.
But
I
want
to
point
out
that
I
have
not
been
able
to
I've
only
heard
about
this
amendment
from
senator
wise
and
it
sounds
like
the
major
concerns
of
so
many
of
us
about
the
in
infringement.
L
On
of
the
right
to
speak,
freedom
to
speak,
I
have
been,
have
been
taken
care
of,
so
I
want
to
skip
to
the
one
thing
I
didn't
hear
anything
about,
which
is
that
we
already
have
a
str.
There
are
more
than
43
000
teachers
in
kentucky
4
300,
something,
and
it's
bound
to
happen
that
one
or
some
a
few
of
them
are
going
to
make
mistakes.
A
few
of
them
might
not
use
the
proper
methods,
but
we
already
have
the
structure
and
the
professional
personnel
in
place
to
deal
with
that.
L
It's
the
responsibility
of
the
principal
to
make
sure
the
teachers
are
doing
the
right
thing.
It's
a
responsibility
of
the
subject!
Supervisors.
It's
responsibility
of
superintendent
and
they
have
the
help
of
the
kentucky
department
of
education,
which
provides
all
the
tools
and
the
guidance
and
how
to
provide
the
latest
and
the
best.
And
then
educational.
K
K
P
Proceed
hi,
I'm
tim
holman
I'd
first
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
senate
bill
138,
I'm
in
my
23rd
year
of
teaching
and
currently
teach
government
and
politics
at
dupont,
manual
high
school.
I've
always
tried
to
provide
my
students
with
the
diverse
and
balanced
instruction,
and
I
believe
that
in
part,
is
the
intention
of
this
bill,
but
as
a
teacher
of
government,
I've
often
seen
good
intentions
result
in
unintended
consequences,
particularly
when
it's
coming
from
the
top
down.
P
I
certainly
believe
that
the
government
should
play
a
role
in
our
life,
but
that
role
should
be
predominantly
determined
close
to
home
and
not
as
dictates
and
mandates
from
big
government.
I
noticed
one
of
the
documents
mandated
by
this
bill
was
a
speech
by
ronald
reagan,
who
is
largely
elected
on
the
promise
of
devolution
of
decision-making
to
local
entities.
I
don't
want
to
see
well-intentioned
legislation,
ultimately
harm
instruction,
harm
teachers
and
ultimately
harm
kids.
I've
looked
quickly
at
some
of
the
amendments
and-
and
I
especially
am
happy
about
the
removal
of
impartial.
P
I
had
a
whole
section
about
that
and
I,
I
believe,
that's
moving
in
the
right
direction.
I
also
think
that
part
of
part
three
subsection
five
b
that
has
been
changed
is
positive,
especially
the
part
that,
but
I
do
have
concerns
about
the
phrasing
of
within
the
range,
knowledge
and
understanding
age
and
maturity
of
the
students,
because
I
do
think
that
is
a
very
relative
kind
of
factor
that
that
could
be
potentially
problematic.
That's.
P
While
I
commend
the
senate
for
a
more
thoughtful
iteration
of
this
bill
than
the
house
version,
I
do
worry
that,
as
the
bills
are
merged,
many
of
the
problematic
elements
of
the
house
version
could
be
combined
with
the
senate
version,
and
I
will
speak
to
that
hopefully
next
week.
Thank
you.
R
I
hope
clearing
my
throat
doesn't
go
towards
one
minute.
It
does
not.
My
name
is
chuck
eddy,
I'm
speaking
for
myself
as
a
supporter
of
good
public
education.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
chairman,
wise
and
committee
members,
including
my
own
senator.
I
am
firmly
opposed
to
sb
138,
I'm
opposed
to
censorship
of
teaching
in
the
classroom.
We
need
to
teach
all
american
history
not
just
feel
good
american
history.
I
have
jewish
family
members
and
friends
who
lost
family
in
the
nazi
holocaust.
Our
country
was
not
without
dishonor.
R
In
1939,
yes
says
st
louis,
with
937
jews
from
europe
were
turned
away
from
the
united
states.
They
were
turned
away
from
several
countries.
I
went
back
to
europe.
Many
of
them
were
likely
lost
in
the
holocaust
members
of
my
own
family,
owned
slaves
in
north
carolina.
I'm
not
proud
of
it,
but
I
want
to
remember
it
never
again.
Should
we
have
racism
in
america.
It
concerns
me
deeply
that
you're
going
to
dictate
that
teachers
should
say
things
like
anti-semitism,
genocide
against
native
american
slavery
and
racism
go
against
what
our
country
has
always
stood
for.
R
Unfortunately,
that's
simply
not
true.
We
have
great
aspirations
in
americans
and
I'm
very
proud
to
be
an
american,
but
part
of
my
pride
comes
from
our
ability
to
learn
from
our
past
mistakes,
not
ignoring
them.
Please
vote
no
on
138,
I
would
add.
I
would
recommend
this
committee
not
vote
on
this
bill
at
all.
Today.
The
public
needs
to
be
able
to
see
the
exact
wording
on
the
committee
substitute.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
Thank
you.
We
will
have
to
stop
right
there
on
people
signed
up
against.
Are
you
ready?
I've
got,
it's
got
to
be
really
tight.
I've
got
to
let
the
sensors
have
their
questions
answered
as
well.
If
you
could
be
real
tight,
these
are
the
last
two.
M
M
I
do-
and
I
think
these
other
speakers
have
done
an
amazing
job,
but
I
will
say
that
I
do
have
concerns
as
a
parent
about
specifically
a
time
for
choosing
by
ronald
reagan.
You
know
the
reagan
of
my
youth
was
the
gorbachev,
don't
tear
down
this
wall
right?
Why
we've
chosen
a
political
speech
that
basically
glorifies
barry
goldwater
is
a
little
bit
beyond
me.
Barry
goldwater
voted
against
the
civil
rights
bill
and
he
was
against
school
integration.
M
So
I'm
struggling
a
bit
to
understand
why
we
wouldn't
statute
that
particular
that
particular
piece.
But
I
will
let
king
speak
for
me
because
martin
luther
king,
which
I
am
ecstatic
about
a
letter
from
the
birmingham
jail
being
in
there,
amazing
amazing,
great,
but
here's
what
king
had
to
say
about
barry
goldwater
at
that
time.
I
think
context
is
important
right.
M
K
B
K
Thank
you,
sir
appreciate
that
next
we
we
have
questions
any
questions
from
senators
on
the
committee
on
this
bill.
K
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
want
to
thank
senator
wise
for
being
open,
inviting
in
terms
of
the
discussion
of
senate
bill
138,
which
he
knows
I
found
totally
objectionable,
but
he
did
listen,
and
I
appreciated
that,
and
I
noticed
that
in
this
committee
substitute
there
are
some
significant
changes
with
respect
to
that.
I
guess
my
concern.
E
Senator
wise
is
what
the
party
that
testified
said
about
sort
of
dictating
from
the
top
and
that
she
can
be
handled.
I
mean
we
got
trained
professionals
that
I
you
know
some
people
don't
have
some
respect
for
them,
but
I
got
total
confidence
in
them
because
they
turn
out
a
son
of
mine
who
who's
excelled
in
the
system.
You
know,
but
here's
the
deal.
E
Some
of
these
words
concern
me,
but
I
just
want
to
ask
you
and
I'm
not
gonna
have
a
bunch
of
your
time,
but
this
word
regarding
non-discriminatory
what
what
does
that
mean
in
the
ca?
It
says
here
on
page
four
24
relating
to
any
instruction
in
instructional
materials
or
current
controversial
topics
related
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
It
goes
on
to
subsection
b,
as
it
relates
to
shall
be
relevant
objective.
A
Senator
what
we're
talking
about,
there's
just
the
instructional
materials
that
are
being
provided,
if
it's
a
current,
if
it's
a
controversial
topic
that
they
are
non-discriminatory
in
nature
towards
any
it
could
be
towards
any
type
of
person
that
we
have
that
in
statute,
that
we
put
that
there
just
to
be
respectful
to
any
differing
perspectives
discriminatory.
But
we
thought
the
word
non-discriminatory
would
be
a
better
word
to
use
in
that
particular
section.
E
Okay
and
the
reason
why
I
just
picked
that
out,
because
I
can't
go
through
these
little
things
I
could
pick
and
pack
at,
but
the
reason
I
raised
that
question
is
that
I'm
not
sure,
and
maybe
it's
my
deficiency-
I'm
not
sure
what
that
means
in
the
context
of
things.
I
would
ask
you
just
look
back
at
that
and.
A
K
That'll,
be
that
will
have
to
be
the
last
word,
because
senator
carroll
has
to
present
his
bill
next.
Do
we
have
a
motion
on
sb
138,
as
amended
by
the
proposed
committee
substitute
one.
K
K
G
K
G
G
My
concern
in
this
whole
space
is
that
there's
not
enough
educating
going
on,
and
so
we
are
leaving
a
lot
of
gaping
holes
on
how
much
extra
our
students
going
to
learn,
but
I
feel
like
this
is
good,
because
this
is
at
least
a
start
to
what
should
be
on
things
like
assessments.
Some
of
these
I
don't
even
know
what
they
are
and
I
had
to
go
start
reading
them.
I
did
object
to
the
ronald
reagan
speech
and
I
read
it.
I
thought
it
was
actually
really
interesting.
G
B
D
G
B
D
I
like
to
address
my
comments
really
to
the
broader
audience
and,
more
importantly,
to
the
to
the
people
of
kentucky.
First,
I
want
to
begin
by
saying
I
know
senator
wise
he's
a
well-intentioned
good.
Individual
I've
been
very
complimenting
of
him
in
the
in
the
past
and
continue
to
be
very
complimentary
of
him,
and
so
there
should
be
no
ill
intent
addressed
to
him.
Regarding
his
sponsorship
of
this
bill,.
D
You
know
history
is
very
valuable.
It's
a
very
valuable
subject.
It
instructs
us
about
the
good
and
bad
of
our
past
and
it
provides
us
with
knowledge
and
insight
of
what
we
need
to
do
better.
So
we
can
enhance
the
hopes
and
dreams
for
our
future
and
I
don't
think
we
should.
We
should
ever
whitewash
history.
You
know
we've
got
to
tell
it
like
it
is,
so
we
understand
that
we
got
to
talk
about
slavery
and
and
the
oppression
that
that
occurs.
D
We
got
talk
about
the
trail
of
tears
and
the
horrors
that
native
americans
faced.
We
got
to
talk
about
the
holocaust
in
hopes
that
we
never
see.
That
again
I
mean
that's.
Those
are
things
that
happened
in
our
past
and
you
know
they're
there
they're
not
the
best
part
of
who
we
are,
but
we
got
to
know
about
that.
So
we
can
be
better
individuals
going
forward.
D
You
know,
finally,
and
and
I
accept
what
president
steiver
said,
but
I
just
do
not
believe-
and
I
can't
buy
into
the
fact
that
and
I'm
not
I'm
a
I'm-
I'm
a
official
elected
by
lexington,
but
I
just
don't
believe
that
jefferson,
county
public
schools
teaches
black
students
that
they
are
not
good
enough
to
go
to
college.
I
just
find
that
too.
D
I'm
just
sorry,
I
just
find
that
too
incredulous
to
accept,
so
all
follow
those
reasons,
mr
chair.
This
is
why
I
vote
knowing
this
legislation-
and
I
just
just
you
know-
hope
that
kentucky
as
we
move
forward
in
our
education
system
can
do
a
lot
better
than
senate
bill
138
today.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
A
Mr
chairman,
real
quick
briefly
saying
my
yes
vote.
Yes,
I
do
hope
that
those
that
testified
today
will
look
at
the
sub,
especially
page
2
lines
4
through
11,
of
where
we're
not
telling
teachers
what
they
can
and
cannot
teach
and
what
our
students
can
and
cannot
learn
so
hope.
The
sub
does
alleviate
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
those
who
testified
today
against
the
bill.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you.
E
E
No,
the
reason
why
I
wanted
to
explain.
My
no
vote
was
because
of
the
comment
made
by
senator
stavros.
You
know
what
we
got
to
understand
here
is
that
we
do
have
a
society
that
is
not
separated
from
how
we
got
to
where
we
are.
There
are
dynamics,
even
on
the
floor
of
the
senate.
We
run
into
people
that
have
different
and
cultural
perspectives
and
and
they
embrace
various
ideals
that
are
not
congruent,
one
to
the
other,
for
instance.
E
But
here's
the
point,
mr
chairman,
the
point
is,
is
that
we
have
a
society
that
has
problems
rooted
in
our
past.
They
are
visited
upon
us
now,
so
we
can
come
together,
face
those
things
and
then
we
can
work
toward
a
better
society,
because,
after
all,
what
we're
talking
about
is
a
more
perfect
union.
That's
what
this
is
a
great
experiment.
E
So
I
think,
if
we
go
into
this
with
respect
for
each
other
and
not
be
afraid
of
the
past,
discuss
it
openly
and
and
accurately
and
as
truly
as
we
can
be,
then
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
be
better
as
a
country
better
in
relationship
to
each
other,
more
understanding
and,
of
course
our
future
is
rooted
not
in
us
it's
rooted
in
our
young
people.
E
They
came
here
and
spoke
today
and
I
want
to
applaud
each
and
one
of
them,
regardless
of
what
their
expression
was
for
stepping
up
to
the
plate
and
letting
us
know
how
they
feel
about
this.
So
I
want
to
again
I
want
to
commend
senator
west,
for
I'm
sorry
senator
wise
for
his
effort
here,
but
really
do
think
it's
unnecessary.
I
think
it's
part
of
a
continuum
we
need
to
let
our
systems
work
through.
I
think
we're
on
the
right
track.
I
think
the
future
is
bright
for
us.
E
Contrary
to
what
some
people
think.
Maybe
it's
called
some
an
internal
optimist,
but
I
think
we
got
the
greatest
country
in
the
united
states
of
america
is
the
greatest
country
and
we
have
the
greatest
opportunity
to
lead
the
world
and
I
think
we're
doing
it
now
and
I
think
if
we
respect
each
other
going
forward,
if
we
speak
the
truth,
if
we
don't
hide
the
fact
that
we
have
negatives
but
strive
for
positives,
then
we
can
be
even
better
than
we
are
now
we'll
achieve
a
more
perfect
union.
Thank
you,
mr
president.
Hi,
mr
chairman,.
K
The
senate
bill
138
passes
with
a
vote
of
nine,
I
votes
and
four
navots
and
shall
be
reported
favorably.
Thank
you,
chairman
wise.
We
have
before
us
now
senator
carroll
he's
going
to
present
on
senate
bill
120
and
just
just
to
keep
you
posted
senator
carroll,
I'm
making
a
command
decision
we're
going
to
go
to
10
after
so
that
should
give
you
a
full
15
minutes
to
do
that
and
we
have
a
a
sub
on
120.
Is
there
a
motion
on
the
sub?
K
K
S
Mr
chairman,
I'm
just
going
to
cut
to
the
chase
on
this
bill.
This
is
a
follow-up
bill
that
that
stems
from
the
senate
bill,
one
in
2019,
the
school
safety
and
resil
resiliency
act.
This
bill
simply
allows
school
districts
to
create
their
own
campus
police
departments.
The
model
is
exactly
what
we
use
in
our
state
universities.
Throughout
the
commonwealth,
there
were
minor
changes
that
were
made
to
the
language.
S
One
in
particular
has
to
do
with
the
request
made
by
jcps,
it's
permissive
language
related
to
officers
supporting
the
school
district
and
the
enforcement
of
lawful
rules,
regulations
and
code
of
conduct
of
the
school
district.
So
it's
permissive
that
that
that
will
only
occur
if
the
school
allows
these
agencies
are
set
up.
Just
like
any
other
police
department.
Sworn
officers
uniforms,
cruisers
radios,
sirens
jurisdiction
is
a
little
bit
different.
S
They
have
jurisdiction
on
property
that
they
own
or
use
throughout
if
it's
throughout
the
state,
and
then
they
can
also
establish
greater
jurisdiction
through
agreements
with
local
government
or
law
enforcement
entities,
or
they
can
have
extended
jurisdiction
to
assist
law
enforcement
entities,
and
I've
asked
chief
monroe
to
be
here
today
because
I
he
can
give
he
can
give
specifics
to
articulate
how
these
laws
are
actually
carried
carried
through
on
a
practical
basis
within
the
police
department.
So
I'm
just
gonna
leave
it
at
that,
mr
chairman,
and
then
we'll
answer.
B
Thank
you
chairman.
Yes,
we
would
support
this
legislation
based
on
it.
Like
senator
carroll
was
demonstrating.
It
is
very
much
like
the
campus
law
enforcement
for
universities
at
the
state
colleges,
the
jurisdiction
that
we
have
is
very
similar
to
what
this
would
be.
Our
powers
are
anywhere
in
the
commonwealth,
kentucky
that
the
university
owns
controls
occupies
or
leases
space,
so
that
is
very
similar
to
what
senator
carroll
has
proposed.
T
What
we've
run
into
in
mccracken
county
is.
Excuse
me,
I'm
doing
this
in
a
school,
so
you'll
hear
bills
and
announcements.
So
what
we've
run
into
is
two
scenarios
that
that
caused
me
concern
morning
and
afternoon
dismissal
on
arrival,
some
of
my
officers
at
some
of
the
schools
have
to
be
out
on
public
highway
directed
traffic,
which
you
know
we're
out
there
with
emergency
vehicles.
T
However,
technically
we
have
no
more
authority
to
be
out
there
doing
that
than
you
know
someone
that's
just
come
up
on
a
wreck
and
is
trying
to
assist
the
other.
The
other
two
issues
that
come
up.
We
get
called
many
times
to
go
with
principals
counselors
to
go
check
welfare
on
students
and
we're
glad
to
do
that.
However,
when
we
walk
into
a
house,
they
see
a
person
with
a
gun
and
a
badge
that
they
identify
as
a
police
officer.
T
However,
we
have
no
statutory
authority,
so
if
something
did
occur,
we
would
only
recourse
would
be
to
lo
notify
either
paddock
police
department
or
mccracken
county
sheriff's
office.
So
there
would
be
a
delay
there.
The
last
thing
is
responding
to
any
kind
of
disturbance
on
a
bus,
and
once
we
get
there
and
step
on
to
that
bus,
I've
talked
with
department,
criminal
justice
attorneys,
our
local
county
attorney,
and
they
all
feel
like
that
we're
in
a
gray
area
and
they
recommend
not
to
take
any
type
action.
So
let's
say
you
know
we
get
there.
T
We've
got
two
parents
in
a
physical
altercation,
our
recourse
is
if
we
can't
get
them
to
stop
to
notify
another
agency
to
come
to
assist.
So
it's
just
it
would,
in
my
opinion,
kind
of
clean
up
and
and
the
thing
about
it
is
here
in
mccracken
county.
We're
still
have
to
be
pop
certified
we're
all
academy
trained.
We
attend
a
minimum
of
40
hours
in
service
every
year
and
it
kind
of
gets
in
the
old
if
it
walks
like
a
duck
type
thing.
S
Mr
chairman,
I
would
note
that
these
officers
are
sros
in
the
same
sense
that
the
current
sros-
it's
just
another
options-
option
that
the
school
district
has
they
can
they
can
contract
with
sheriff's
departments,
police
departments,
state
police.
They
can
have
the
sro
program
like
director,
watson
is
in
charge
of
or
they
can
have
their
own
police
department,
and
there
are
some
advantages
to
that.
There
are
federal
dollars
that
could
be
available
for
actual
police
departments.
S
That
would
come
into
play
here,
and
so
that's
one
advantage,
and
the
biggest
issue
is
the
the
expansion
of
jurisdiction
that
would
allow
these
these
officers
to
better
protect
their
students
if
they're
away
they're
on
a
bus,
and
they
have
the
authority
to
investigate
throughout
the
state
to
cooperate,
work
with
other
law
enforcement
agencies
and
and
most
of
these
folks
have
agreements
with
their
local
departments
or
cities
through
an
mou
where
they
establish
jurisdiction
outside
of
their
ground.
So
again
it
is
permissive
and
it's
just
another
option
that
our
school
districts
would
have.
K
Thank
you,
senator
kara,
for
that
presentation
and
your
guest.
We
now
open
it
up
to
questions
from
members.
We
do
have
one
here,
senator
higdon.
F
Thank
you
senator
carol,
and
I
expressed
you
know,
concern.
I
know
we're
already
doing
this
with
multiple
agencies,
where
we're
hiring
retired
officers
and
and
naturally
they
offshore,
they
don't
accumulate
another
retirement,
and
so
there's
no
contribution
due
by
them,
but
in
many
instances
we're
we're.
Also
the
employers
not
required
to
make
any
contribution
and
I've
I've
just.
I
know
we're
doing
that.
F
We've
been
doing
it
for
some
time,
but
as
my
involvement
with
the
retirement
system,
I'm
always
concerned
where
we,
I
guess,
potential
contributions
to
the
retirement
system
are,
are
not
there.
So,
just
just
I
guess
I
had
to
voice
my
concern.
S
And-
and
I
don't
know
that
that
would
this
will
really
affect
any
of
that
because
of
the
groups
that
are
already
already
protected
with
municipal
agencies
the
sros.
So
it
falls
under
that.
I
have
requested
from
budget
staff
to
to
see
if
we
can
pull
some
numbers
together
related
to
that.
G
S
B
Yes,
so
I
would
agree
with
you
on
that:
senator
the
property
being
the
school
bus
would
allow
under
your
bill
to
give
the
powers
of
a
police
officer
jurisdiction.
For
that
said,
bus.
G
K
G
S
You,
I
guess
you
I'd
the
confusion,
I
guess.
If,
in
in
the
the
sleol
model,
there
is
some
confusion,
whether
or
not
that's
allowed,
since
they
they
do
not
fall
under
these
statutes.
It's
a
different
set
of
rules
for
them,
even
though
they
are
sworn
officers,
and
this
establishes
those
police
departments
within
a
school
district
or
those
those
sros
that
agency,
they
establish
their
own
police
department,
so
they
have
more
authority
more
jurisdiction,
with
agreement
in
in
on
whatever
or
on
or
in
whatever
property
they
own
or
operate
or
occupy.
T
T
Saying
the
sleo
statute
itself
when
it
limits
your
authority
and
then
the
other
thing
is
this
leo
statute,
as
it's
set
up
right
now,
we're
the
only
law
enforcement
entity
in
the
state
that
I'm
aware
of
that
every
four
years
has
to
be
submit
to
a
background.
Investigation
pay
a
fee
and
we
still
have
all
the
requirements
of
any
other
law
enforcement
officer
such
as
we
have
to
be
academy,
trained
pop
certified
and
maintain
our
in-service
training.
T
K
F
E
G
Please
proceed:
I
am
similarly
a
little
bit
struck
by
how
quickly
we're
trying
to
hit
something
this
major
there's
a
lot
here
and
even
more
in
the
sub
than
was
in
the
original
bill,
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
look
at
this.
I
have
a
number
of
questions.
There's
no
way
you
could
get
through
it
in
a
committee
hearing
and
if
this
is
going
to
really
move
forward,
we'll
definitely
be
taking
a
look
at
some
serious
details.
Thank
you.
K
Senate
bill
120,
as
amended,
passes
with
a
vote
of
eight
eyes.
Two
nays
one
pass
and
shall
be
reported.
Favorably
thank.