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A
C
B
A
President,
everyone,
please
turn
your
cell
phone
and
that's
me
to
silent,
and
would
anybody
like
to
recognize
a
special
guest
in
the
audience
today.
A
E
You
symbol:
2
16
is
a
bill
that
we've
been
working
through
most
this
session.
I've
worked
with
several
senators
and
reps
talking
about
election
issues,
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
are
doing
on
the
house
side
as
well.
E
I've
worked
along
with
the
clerks
association
to
make
sure
that
these
changes
are
easily
implemented
ahead
of
this
year's
election
cycle.
The
final
product
of
this
bill
that
expands
our
existing
audit
process
moves
up.
The
deadline
for
transitioning
to
universal
paper
ballots
ensures
election
machines,
are
not
hooked
to
the
internet
and
adds
a
few
other
cleanup
provisions.
That's
what's
in
this
bill,
so
let
me
delineate
there
are
seven
things
that
this
bill
does
just
for
clarity.
E
The
first
thing
it
does
is:
it
increases
the
number
of
independent
inquiries
completed
by
the
attorney
general
following
the
election
from
six
to
twelve.
These
are
these:
are
the
inquiries
that
he'll
pull
out
ping
pong
balls
and
select
counties
and
do
this
independent
inquiry
we've
moved
that
from
6
to
12,
which
is
10
percent
of
our
counties.
E
E
The
third
thing
it
does
is:
it
requires
all
voting
machines
to
be
paper
ballot,
backup
by
january
1
2024,
and
this
is
backed
up
by
an
appropriations
that
you'll
see
in
the
budget
of
25
million
dollars
for
those
that
equipment.
The
fourth
thing
is:
it
prohibits
voting
equipment
to
being
from
connecting
to
any
network,
including
the
internet
or
communicating
with
a
device
external
to
the
voting
system.
Now
you
you'll
see
this.
Probably
I
think
you
see
it
through
two
or
three
times
in
bills.
E
The
fifth
thing
is
for
a
period
of
30
days,
the
voting
equipment
and
ballot
boxes
will
be
secured
and
locked
and
under
video
surveillance
for
30
days
for
a
30-day
period.
The
sixth
thing
is:
it
changes
filing
requirements
to
one-year
reports
for
years.
You
are
not
on
the
ballot.
This
is
a
craft
regulation
and
the
final
thing
that
it
does
is
places
the
secretary
of
state
as
the
chair
of
the
state
board
of
elections.
E
There
is
a
committee
sub
and
I
may
yield
to
the
committee
committee
sub-sponsor
to
explain
that
it
has
some
craft
language
in
it.
A
We
have
a
motion
on
the
committee
sub
motion
by
representative
blanton.
Second,
by
joel
fisher,
representative
voice
vote,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carries
and
the
committee
sub
is
before
us.
E
That
is
it,
that
is
the
that
is
the
seven
things
that
symbol
216
does
and
additionally,
the
the
committee
sub.
I
can
give
just
a
brief
rundown
of
the
committee
sub
if
you
like,
or
if
you'd
like
to
share.
That's
fine
go
ahead.
If
you
want
to
okay,
the
committee
sub
removes
the
requirements
that
a
candidate
or
slated
candidates
designated
designate
a
treasurer
at
the
office
with
which
they
file
the
candidacy
which
the
candidate
files
to
be
forward
to
forward
a
copy
to
the
registry
of
election.
E
A
Questions
representative
miller.
E
D
The
question
I
have
a
question
on
it's
page:
four
about
no
voting
system.
Voting
equipment
shall
be
approved
for
use
after
january
1
2024
and
it
was
2021.
one
why?
Why
was
it
bumped
out
and
why
second
part
is
why
so
far,
why
not?
Why
not
2022
or
2023
then
well,
I
know
it
wouldn't
be
2022
yeah.
E
D
E
They
are,
I
mean,
there's
there.
There
is
hope
that
the
25
million
that's
going
to
be
appropriated
is
going
to
be
enough
to
cover
it.
I
I
you
know,
I'm
not
foolish
enough
to
think
that
we
may
not
be.
They
may
not
be
back
asking
for
a
little
bit
more
money,
but
we're
hopeful
that
it's
going
to
cover
it.
Okay,
thank
you.
Everything's
more
expensive.
These
days.
C
E
For
most
for
most
folks,
they
will,
they
will
store
them
in
a
in
what
they
believe
is
a
secured
place,
but
sometimes
it
might
be
a
bus
garage
or
something
like
that.
The
video
surveillance
is
really
just
another
step
of
security
to
make
sure
that
if
there
is
it
thought
of
any
tampering
that
went
on
at
least
we'll
have
a
backup
to
be
able
to
follow
that
and
see
if
anything
actually
happened,
but
as
of
right
now,
most
clerks
and
probably
have
several
people
behind
me
that
can
answer
it
better
than
I
can.
E
E
They
do
not,
I
think
some
do
like
I
mean
once
again.
I
think
some
of
the
places
that
the
machines
are
stored
are
are
under
security
as
far
as
like
doors
and
things
of
that
nature,
the
idea
here
isn't
to
have
a
exuberant
cost.
I
mean
you
know
today,
security
cameras
like
ring
doorbells,
and
things
of
that
nature
are
fairly
affordable
and
I
just
thought
it
was
a
good
idea
to
put
a
second
back
up
there
in
case
there
is
thoughts
of
tampering.
C
Thank
you
if
I
may
ask
another
chairman,
thank
you
senator
you
mentioned
that
I
think
you
said
credit
and
debit
cards
will
no
longer
be
used
as
a
form
of
id.
So
for
the
purposes
of
people
watching,
can
you
just
say
what
other
forms
of
id
can
be
used.
E
How
many
well
driver's
license?
Obviously
you
know,
and
if
you
can't
get
a
driver's
license,
I'm
going
by
memory.
If
you
can't
get
a
driver's
license,
you
can
get
a
an
id
card
for
free
now
from
the
clerk's
offices.
There
are
also
ebt
cards
college.
E
College
ids,
maybe
somebody
behind
me.
E
Let's
go,
thank
you
so
so
the
idea
about
the
debit
and
credit
card
is
that
there
are
almost
anybody
that
can
deposit
a
thousand
dollars
or
500
in
an
account
can
get
a
debit
or
credit
card,
and
it's
not
the
most
secure
id
so
that
that
was
my
thought
and
then,
when
I
did
the
research
that
very
few
people
used
it
in
the
last
election,
I
don't
think
we're
limiting
people's
ability
to
prove
their
id.
E
F
E
You,
mr
chair,
I
probably
need
more
on
representative
whitley's
question.
Well,.
F
You
might
thank
you,
I'm
going
to
go
to
learning
some
things
about
how
costs
are
distributed
and
do
election
costs
count
as
necessary
governmental
expenses
under
the
budget
or
how
do
election
costs?
How
are
they
allocated.
E
I
believe
they
are.
I
don't
know
if
one
of
the
clerk's
associates
won't
answer
that
or
not,
but
I
believe
I
believe
that
they
are
you're.
G
Good
morning,
I'm
tabitha
clemens
grant
county
clerk
representing
the
kentucky
county
clerks
association
good
morning.
So
in
regards
to
cost
for
elections,
it
is
a
cost
of
the
fiscal
courts.
The
fiscal
courts
in
each
county
are
required
to
pay
for
the
election
in
its
entirety.
There
are
reimbursement
opportunities
through
federal
grant
dollars
through
the
help.
America
vote
act
java
funds
that
the
state
board
of
elections
distributes
that
money
is
normally
distributed
by
precincts.
But
as
we
move
into
vote
centers
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
look
at
that
funding.
G
The
funding
that
senator
mills
has
talked
about
this
morning
is
a
direct
appropriation
for
from
the
state
government
to
to
the
counties
through
the
state
board
of
elections.
It'll
be
distributed
much
like
the
java
dollars.
I
would
imagine
so
that
counties
can
get
reimbursement
for
the
machines
to
comply
with
the
laws
that
we're
putting
into
place
to
have
paper
ballots.
A
F
You
know
I
I'll
have
more
questions
about
the
bank
card
and
the
credit
card
and
167
people
haven't
used
that
form
of
id
and
the
rather
rigorous
set
of
circumstances
that
follow
that
that
precede
you
even
being
able
to
use
a
bank
card.
So
it's
not
just
like
you,
go
show
them
your
bank
card
and
you
get
a
vote.
There's
perjury
laws
involved.
There's
signatures
involved,
it's
quite
a
a
protocol
that
has
to
be
followed
to
use
a
bank
card
and
obviously
167
people
had
to
do
that.
G
Not
to
my
knowledge,
not
to
my
knowledge
that
the
167
specifically,
that
may
be
a
question
for
the
attorney
general's
office
as
they
would
be
the
the
agency
to
investigate
those
situations
of
acclaimed
voter
fraud,
specifically
about
about
the
id
we
had.
One
of
those
is
from
my
county.
She
couldn't
get
her
driver's
license
out
of
her
wallet,
so
it
was
easier
to
get
her
bank
card
out
versus
her.
She
had
her
driver's
license.
G
F
Stakeholders
involved
the
secretary
of
state
this
bill
sponsor,
went
through
a
rigorous
process
to
get
a
balanced
approach
on
this,
and
this
seems
to
be
pulling
something
out
from
that
that
approach
that
they
had
that
day
and
mr
mr
chair,
the
next
question
I
have
might
be
would
be
better
after
I
think
we
have
a
guest
or
a
person
who's
going
to
speak,
and
it's
related
to
the
committee
sub
and
cr
and
craft
gay
ref.
Okay,
so
I'll
hold
off.
A
Well,
tabitha,
why
are
you
there?
What
is
the
fate
of
hava
right
now?
What
how
much
more
do
we
have
of
java.
G
It's
it's
almost
spent,
so
we
had
training
last
week-
and
I
know
some
of
the
folks
from
state
boards
here,
but
my
understanding
from
what
they
explained
to
us
is
that
we
have
a
few
more
years
of
technology
funds
that
they
use
technology
funds
through
java
dollars.
G
A
The
money
that
for
the
pandemic,
the
fed
money
and
all
that
was
that
any
thing
that
we
can
draw
on
or
this.
G
Counties
can
draw
not
so
we
we
asked
when
we
we
met
with
the
governor's
office
back
in
the
summer
in
regards
to
the
arpa
funding,
for
not
only
elections
but
also
for
land
records,
and
we're
told
that
those
funds
could
not
be
used
for
either
for
either
project
for
county
clerks.
Okay,.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
following
up
on
representative
scott's
question
on
the
video
surveillance,
I
like
the
idea
of
this
video
surveillance
and
it
says
so
it
starts
on
the
day
of
election,
and
then
it
ends
30
days
later.
Is
that
the
period
yes.
G
That's
the
impoundment
period
of
all
the
machines,
so
machines
are
impounded
for
30
days
after
the
election.
They
can't
be
the
seals
that
are
put
on
them
on
election
morning
by
the
election
officers
at
the
voting
location.
That
seal
must
remain
and
it's
a
numbered,
numeric
seal
and
the
machine
must
also
stay
locked.
So
the
30
days
is
during
during
the
impoundment
period
of
when
ballots
would
remain
in
the
machine
for
the
entirety
of
the
impoundment.
But.
D
E
I
intentionally
left
that
to
be
kind
of
vague
for
for
folks
to
to
be
able
to
retro
retrofit
I
mean,
obviously
we
need
a
30
and
we
may
need
some
clarity
on
that
to
to
say
we
want
all
30
days
recorded
because
you're
exactly
right.
Some
security
cameras
have
like
a
three
or
four
day
loop
that
start
recording
over
it.
So
we
might
need
to
tighten
that
up,
even
some
more
so.
E
D
A
Representative
wheatley
had
a
question
for
kraft.
Do
you
all
mind.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
is
probably
if
mr
stefan
wants
to
make
his
statement.
He
probably
will
answer
the
question
so
we'll
we'll
just
let's.
F
F
The
the
committee
sub
includes
some
of
the
same.
I
believe
some
of
the
same
language
from
a
previous
bill
related
to
filing
and
how
often
filings
have
to
happen
is,
is
this
committee
sub
very
similar
or
is
it
the
same?
Do
you
have
the
same
kind
of
objections
you
had
before
related
to
transparency?
I
don't.
H
I
don't
think
that's
in
the
committee
sub.
I
think
it's
in
the
bill
as
it
came
over
from
the
senate,
actually
that
same
language
that
that
you
heard
about
my
concerns
about
before
I
have
the
same
concerns.
I
still
believe
that
more
reporting
is
better
than
less
reporting.
I
think
quarterly
reporting
is
better
than
annual
reporting.
H
I
you've
already
heard
those
concerns.
I
wasn't
going
to
reiterate
them
today.
My
understanding
is
if
we
get
our
system
working
better,
that
there
are
some
among
you
who
would
entertain
revisiting
that
issue
down
the
road
when
when
following
when
the
following
ability
gets
easier.
So,
yes,
I
have
the
same
concerns
the
same
objections,
but
I
wasn't
going
to
replay
them
again
before
that's.
A
All
right
we're
going
to
vote
on
senate
bill.
We
need
a
motion
on
the
what
committee
said
committee.
Okay,
all
right,
we
have
senate
bill
216
as
amended
by
committee
sub
1..
I
need
a
motion
on
that
motion
by
blanton.
Second,
by
matt
cook.
C
D
D
E
D
A
F
Briefly
explained
sure
I
am
a
no
today,
but
this
bill
has
a
lot
of
good
things
in
it
and
one
bad
thing.
So
if
we
could
take
out
the
it
could
be
bipartisan
support
or
bipartisan
bill,
if
we
could
take
out
the
bank
card.