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A
Bill
sponsor's
here
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
to
rolling
call
to
order
the
first
intro
first
joint
meeting
of
the
house
and
senate
appropriations
and
revenue
committees.
Today's
hearing
will
be
for
information
only
the
intent
is.
We
will
take
testimony
on
house
bill
1,
but
also
hear
from
the
senate,
sponsor,
as
they
are
both
identical
bills,
but
we
will
not
cast
any
votes
today,
but
for
the
purposes
of
the
meeting
we
do
need
to
have
role
taken
differently.
So,
madam
secretary,
if
you
would
please,
for
the
senate
call
the
roll.
C
A
E
C
C
E
E
D
C
I'm
robert
stivers,
I
represent
the
25th
senate
district,
which
is
now
jackson,
owsley,
clay,
knox,
whitley
and
macquarie
counties,
but
I
have
represented
leslie
in
the
past
wolf
in
the
past
mcgoffin
in
the
past
morgan
in
the
past.
I
don't
think
all
of
those
are
in
the
declaration
zone,
but
there
are
close
and
many
of
them
and
lee,
but
one
of
my
counties
had
loss
of
life
clay.
Another
was
designated,
I
think,
owlsley
as
they
were
impacted
by
the
events
which
I
think
are
now
right
at
four
weeks
from
its
occurrence.
E
I'm
john
blanton
and
I
represent
house
district
92,
which
includes
mcgoffin,
not
and
a
big
portion
of
pike
county.
All
three
of
my
counties
are
in
the
designated
declaration
of
emergency
knock
county
has
sustained
the
highest
number
of
fatalities
for
a
single
county
throughout
the
region
with
18
family
18
individuals,
including
four
children
that
lost
their
lives.
C
But
if
I
can,
mr
chairman,
members
of
both
committees
are
mr
chairman
and
mr
chairman:
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
process
and
what
has
occurred
and
what
we
tried
to
stay
fairly,
disciplined
particularly
on
our
side.
I
want
to
thank
you
and
senator
gibbons,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
where
he
is.
C
C
We
started
talking
about
what
had
occurred
with
the
bill
with
the
western
kentucky,
save
act
and
the
extent
and
the
differences,
and
there
are
differences
that
have
occurred.
One.
The
timing
in
close
proximity
to
the
session
made
it
a
lot
different
in
dealing
with
this
situation,
because
we
had
information
a
little
closer.
Okay.
Is
that
better,
I'm
generally
pretty
good
at
projecting?
I
try
to
be
silent,
but
my
kids
always
told
me.
C
You
really
don't
know
what
the
extent
of
the
damage
is
and
the
damage
isn't
really
known
yet,
and
I
think
that's
probably
a
pretty
good
assessment
representative
fugit,
but
there
is
a
potential
it
could
be
saved
or
it
may
have
to
be
totally
torn
down
depending
on
mold
contagion,
things
that
were
in
the
water
structural
damage
underneath
and
we're
four
months
away
from
the
session
too.
So
a
different
approach
to
this
than
what
was
done
in
western
kentucky.
C
So
that's
to
get
them
back
up
and
running
and,
as
you
know,
mr
senate
chair,
senator
mcdaniel,
we
listened
to
several
of
the
governmental
entities,
talk
about
how
they
no
longer
had
money
in
the
bank.
This
fiscal
liquidity
when
they've
been
paying
for
overtime,
gravels,
culverts,
tiles
equipment
that
had
to
be
brought
in
contractors.
C
So
the
I
want
to
bring
this
one
thing
back
to
the
west
kentucky
because
of
the
sequence
of
events
related
to
the
timing
of
sending
out
bills
for
property
tax
and
how
the
budgets
are
addressed.
This
won't
be
something
you
will
see
for
eastern
kentucky,
because
the
property
tax
assessments
and
bills
have
been
sent
out
and
collected.
C
So
what
you
will
see
in
this
bill
is
one
place
that
we
do
open
up.
The
west
kentucky
safe
act
to
do
some
stop-gap
measures
where
school
systems
have
lost
some
revenue
if
they
can
show
it
was
due
to
the
damage
related
to
the
tornadoes
because
of
lost
property
valuation
and
lack
of
ability
to
collect
the
receipts
other
than
that.
E
E
If
you
see
it
on
the
ground
in
person,
it's
worse
than
you're
imagining
right
now,
I
promise
you,
you
may
say
the
pictures,
but
you
don't
get
the
smells.
You
don't
get
the
sounds.
You
don't
get
any
of
those
things
when
I
deliver
a
bottle
of
cold
water
to
a
lady
and
she
breaks
down
and
cries
to
get
her
hands
on
a
bottle
of
cold
water.
E
Someone
said:
why
are
you
taking
mres
to
those
people
sure
they
got
enough
food
in
their
house
to
live
for
a
few
days?
Well,
not
everybody
lives.
Like
someone
else.
There
are
some
people
that
has
only
enough
to
get
by
day
by
day
and
these
people
were
living
on
mres
and,
if
you've
ever
eaten
them.
I
can
tell
you
they're,
not
the
best
meal
that
you
ever
eat,
but
they
were
glad
to
get
them.
E
They
were
glad
to
get
them,
so
our
people
have
been
suffering,
but
in
the
middle
of
all
that
destruction
and
damage,
I
go
in
my
side-by-side
delivering
meals
to
places
we
couldn't
get
regular
vehicles,
I'd
go
to
houses
and
they'd,
say
well,
we've
got
food,
take
it
to
someone
that
doesn't
need
that.
That
needs
it
worse
than
I
do.
E
E
They
just
didn't
want
to
do
it,
but
they
had
no
other
choice
so
until
you've
been
there
not
for
photo
ops
but
actually
down
on
the
boots
on
the
ground,
working
it
and
and
many
of
us
here,
many
of
our
mountain
legislators
have
been
in
it
since
day,
one
even
sharing
representative
hat
in
their
homes.
You
did
you
opened
up
for
people
in
need,
so
we
come
to
you
in
a
time
asking
for
assistance
that
we've
been
devastated,
unlike
any
time
in
any
of
our
lifetimes.
E
This
is
the
first
step
in
my
opinion,
as
we
continue
to
assess
we're
going
to
see
more
and
more
needs
come
down
and
we
have
to
be
willing
as
a
body,
just
as
we
are
now
to
come
together
and
address
those
needs
to
ensure
that
these
people
are
taken
care
of
that's
our
commitment
we
have
to
make
to
each
of
them.
So
with
that,
I
thank
you
for
the
indulgence
and
I
will
begin
laying
out
the
house
bill.
1.
E
E
That's
been
named
in
the
presidential
declaration
of
fema
in
the
eastern
kentucky
region
due
to
the
impacted
july,
22nd,
storms
and
flooding
the
eligible
individuals
groups
for
this
to
receive
financial
support
from
eksef
include
city,
county
urban
government,
consolidated
local
government,
unified
local
government
or
charter
county
governments,
non-profit
or
public
utility
service
providers,
state
agencies
or
school
districts,
and
the
financial
support
shall
not
cover
any
new
construction
inside
the
100
year.
Flood
plain,
also
in
it,
as
mentioned,
we
addressed
some
issues
in
the
west
kentucky
tornadoes
that
was
called
safe.
E
E
E
An
appropriation
of
40
million
dollars
will
go
to
the
operations
support
services
of
the
department
of
education,
and
this
is
support.
Schools
with
cleanup
with
repairs,
wrap-around
services
for
students,
mental
health
support,
whatever
they
may
need
in
the
schools,
an
approach.
Another
appropriation
of
45
million
dollars
will
go
into
the
highways
within
the
transportation
cabinet
that
is
monies
above
and
beyond
the
regular
budget.
To
help
with
emergency
repairs
that
was
incurred
during
the
flooding,
the
appropriation
for
highways
may
be
increased
for
expenditures
relating
to
the
response
and
recovery
from
the
flooding
if
necessary.
E
E
Then
they
will
reimburse
us
at
75
million
to
go
back
into
this
fund
and
the
other
25
is
part
of
the
state's
part
in
paying
that,
so
they
will
not
be
out
any
monies
on
that
does.
If
everybody
understand
my
my
example,
we
also
provide
provisions
for
eastern
kentucky
school
districts,
that's
in
impacted
by
the
storm.
These
are
only
applicable
to
the
schools
that
are
in
the
declaration
counties
of
emergency.
E
It
will
also
provide
for
20
remote
instruction
days,
if
necessary,
within
the
school
districts,
and
those
remote
days
can
be
as
limitly
focused
as
a
single
group
of
students
doesn't
have
to
be
county-wide,
so
it
provides
those
as
well.
It
also
provides
emergency
leave
for
full-time
or
part-time
classified
or
certified
employee,
and
that
is
to
use
an
example
provided
to
me
by
chairman
petry.
E
That
is
very
good,
is
if
one
of
the
teachers
maybe
have
been
impacted
by
the
flooding
and
fema
is
going
to
be
at
their
house
at
11
o'clock,
and
they
need
to
be
there
to
meet
with
fema,
then
they'll
be
able
to
be
released
to
go,
take
care
of
that
emergency
and
still
get
paid
for
that
day.
So
that
is
that
part
also,
we've
taken
out
some
of
the
red
tape
for
the
local
school
boards.
That
they
may
modify
its
district
facility
plan
without
convening
the
local
planning
and
that
just
cuts
out
some
red
tape.
E
D
It's
more
than
ten
percent.
We
said.
If
there's
a
deviation
of
three
percent
on
88
decline,
then
we
would
make
up
two-thirds
of
the
resulting
effect
and
then
likewise
a
similar
type
issue
in
the
west
kentucky
we
went
to
pick
up,
it
is
now
the
issue
has
become
ripe
by
time,
and
we
understand
that
revenue
losses
have
occurred.
E
C
Mr
president,
if
I
could
I
I
jeremy
mcdaniel,
I
want
to
talk
about
mres,
and
you
know
those
well
and
my
son
tells
me
there's
only
bad
mres
and
worse
mres,
but
truly
when
you
had
roads
that
were
blocked
no
electricity,
the
water
was
so
high
at
buckhorn
lake.
I
don't
think
you
could
get
back
into
the
saw
area
for
close
to
a
week
after
the
rain,
and
I
know
it
car
fork
lake.
C
They
were
draining
off
the
lake
almost
constantly
for
two
weeks,
trying
to
get
it
below
flood
levels
and
those
roads
were
cut
off
this.
This
is
kind
of
the
magnitude
of
it.
You
know
when
john
hicks
is
back
here
and
I
think
anybody's
been
around
this
system.
I'm
not
calling
john
old
or
anything
he's
been
around
here
a
while
and
understands
it.
No,
we
were
having
a
discussion
with
john
that
the
overall
scope
of
this
is
probably
going
to
be
much
greater
than
what
happened
in
western
kentucky.
But
we
just
don't
know.
A
A
Very
good
and
rocky
you've
been
taking
calls
around
the
clock
as
always,
and
even
more
so
I
we
talked
about
eight
o'clock,
the
other
night
I
felt
like
it
was
late,
but
I
think
you
were
just
kind
of
getting
rolling
for
the
for
the
day
on
your
day,
so
appreciate
everything
that
you
guys
have
been
doing
as
well
all
right
at
this
time.
Any
questions.
D
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
mr
president,
representative,
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
mr
president,
for
purposes
of
the
west
kentucky
changes
you.
You
spoke
eloquently
to
the
new
revenue
loss
provisions
that
are
being
put
in
into
the
statute
as
a
result
of
this,
and,
as
I
understand
what
we're
doing
here,
we're
seeking
to
address
the
immediate
needs
in
eastern
kentucky
as
a
result
of
the
flooding
and
we're
also
learning
over
time
about
the
lingering
impact.
D
If
you
would
briefly
speak
again
about
the
revenue
loss
or
either
of
you
or
or
either
of
our
chairman,
speak
about
the
revenue
loss
model,
why
we're
experiencing
that
and
then
also
addressed
the
question
of
the
dollars
that
were
budgeted
for
west
kentucky
versus
the
dollars
that
have
been
expended?
We
have
some
cushion
there,
as
I
understand
it
still
to
provide
for
these
needs.
C
C
C
C
So
with
that
the
estimates
are
around
25
million,
and
this
is
in
bowling
green
city,
25
million
of
lost
property
value,
because
the
structure
was
gone.
Warren
county
county-wide,
I
think,
was
over
80
million.
Has
there
still
been
natural
appreciation?
Yes,
there
has
of
the
other
unaffected
properties,
but
those
properties
that
were
impacted.
C
They
have
lost
countywide
over
80
million
dollars
in
taxable
value.
Therefore,
in
their
budgeting
model,
they
do
not
have
that
revenue
coming
in
that
would
have
come
in,
but
for
the
tornado,
that's
going
to
be
the
sequence
next
year
in
eastern
kentucky,
but
eventually
everybody's
going
to
have
to
sit
down
and
have
that
discussion
about
what
your
future
your
cash
flows
are.
Once
we
get
through
this
next,
two
or
three
year
period,.
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
representative
blanton.
I
wanted
to
ask
you
about
a
phrase
that's
used
in
here.
That
was
the
same
with
western
kentucky,
which
is
that
rebuilding
really
can
only
be
done
to
the
extent
of
damage
directly
caused
by
the
storms
and
flooding.
I
wanted
to
understand
that
better
I've
been
reading
a
lot
of
the
three
little
pigs
and
I
know
that
we
would
want
to
rebuild
the
straw
house
and
the
stick
house
with
bricks.
So
does
that
relate
to
the
type
of
structure
or
the
materials
used.
E
I'm
not
sure
that
I'm
following
your
the
way
you're
leading
the
question
it
would,
it
would
lend
to
the
rebuilding
of
the
facilities
based
on
whatever
they
either
previously
had
or
the
contractors
are
saying,
would
need
to
be
utilized
to
put
it
back
into
a
a
usable
condition.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
E
C
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
this
has
to
be
directly
related
to
the
impact
of
the
tornado
or
the
flood.
Some
some
buildings
were
impacted
that
are
that
you
know
part
of
the
building
was
impacted,
but
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
claim
another
part
of
the
building
that
had
no
impact
from
the
flood
as
part
of
the
flood
damage.
A
D
Thank
you,
mr,
and
just
to
comment.
I
guess.
In
anticipation
of
the
session
in
2023,
I
asked
secretary
freelander
his
assessment
of
what
he
saw
when
he
was
in
eastern
kentucky
and
asked
him
how
bad
it
was
compared
to
western
kentucky,
and
he
said,
I'd
probably
use
a
multiple
of
three
to
five
times
worse,
and
he
very
succinctly
mentioned
that
it's
a
different
type
of
natural
disaster
that
tornadoes
and
floods
are
entirely
two
different
scenarios
and
it
may
be
months
before
we
understand
the
full
impact
of
the
flooding
in
eastern
kentucky.
D
A
C
I
do
want
to
thank
you
and
the
house
chair
and
the
various
members
that
have
been
on
phone
calls
and
conference
calls
and
zoom
meetings
because,
as
you
know,
and
and
both
chairs
know,
I've
lost
track
of
how
many
we've
had
was
it
sunday
night.
We
were
all
on
a
meeting
monday
morning,
so
the
appreciation
for
everybody's
time.