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Present,
thank
you
spring
members.
We
we
had
a
meeting
last
time.
We
want
to
go
ahead
and
approve
of
the
minutes.
So
if
you
don't
I'd
like
to
hear
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
February
8th
2023,
is
there
a
motion?
We
have
a
motion
and
we
have
a
second
and
the
med
stands
approve.
Okay.
Well,
before
we
get
into
this.
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So
that
just
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
background
so
and
also
when
y'all
come
up.
I
know
there's
some
terminologies
that
we'll
be
using
just
be
very
explicit
and
and
provide
some
description
of
what
you're
talking
about,
because
some
of
the
things
like
oblique
versus
Ortho,
a
lot
of
people,
don't
know
what
that
is.
I
do
I've
been
in
the
business
for
ump
10
years,
but
just
get
a
little
background
for
not
only
for
the
members,
but
also
for
the
Virginia
Public.
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So
we
know
what
we're
talking
about
so
with
that,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'd
like
to
have
Mr
Billings,
Mr,
O'neill
and
Lee
Martin
come
to
the
table.
Introduce
yourselves.
If
you
don't
mind
and
then
once
you
do,
that
you're
teed
up
and
ready
to
go.
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This
is
the
pictometry
module
on
our
website
and
it's
free
and
open
to
the
public.
You
do
need
a
login,
ID
and
a
password,
but
you
can
come
in
and
and
do
up
to
100
searches
a
month
for
free
and
it's
it's
very
heavily
utilized
and
a
popular
feature.
So
we
have
access
or
provide
access
to.
These
are
all
the
different
flyovers
that
are
currently
available,
so
it
goes
all
the
way
back
to
2004.
So
this
is
a
pretty
nice
feature
and
also
one
that
we
use
in-house.
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So
I
don't
have
the
ability
to
show
you,
the
the
the
pictometry
user
interface
that
we
use
in-house,
but
most
of
that
can
be
done
from
the
website.
So,
for
example,
if
we
wanted
to
when
we're
assessing
a
property,
we
want
to
see
how
that
property
has
changed
over
the
years.
We
can
do
that
so,
for
example,.
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There's
a
2000
and
2004
imagery,
and
then
we
can,
you
can
just
flip
through
there
and
choose
whichever,
whichever
year,
that
you're
interested
in.
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So
it
defaults
right
now
to
the
parcel
lines
and
then
you
can
also
see
sales
but,
more
importantly,
there's
the
there's,
the
2022
flyover
that
was
done
in
Fayette
County.
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So,
for
example,
here
here's
an
example
where
we're
looking
at
two
different
years.
The
one
on
the
on
the
right
is
prior
to
an
improvement
that
was
done
to
the
property
where
we
had
a
garage
and
it
was
detached
from
the
house.
There
was
just
a
Breezeway
and
then
you
look
on
the
the
image
on
the
left
and
you
can
see
that
that
it's
been
enlarged
and
it's
now
is
now
attached.
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There
are
also
neighborhoods
some
older
neighborhoods,
where
whether
or
not
a
property
has
central
air
conditioning
can
be
a
significant
difference
and
the
value
of
the
property.
So
it's
not
always
practical
for
us
to
be
able
to
to
see
backyards
and
side
yards
when
we're
doing
our
once
every
four
year
inspections.
So
here's
an
example
where
you
can
come
in
and
compare
different
years
and
see
that
a
property
does
in
fact
have
central
air
conditioning.
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There's
the
in
this
particular
image,
there's
two
sets
of
property
lines
turned
on.
We
do
our
own
parcel
lines
in
the
PVA
Office
and
then
the
City
of
Lexington
also
creates
their
own
parcel
lines.
So
we
keep
those
turned
on
because
it'll
help
us
find
discrepancies
where
they
might
exist
and
and
we'll
go
in
and
double
check
that
we
also
hear
quite
a
bit
that
you
know
my
house
boxed
up
to
a
railroad
track.
Therefore,
it's
not
as
valuable
as
somebody
else's
house
and
they're.
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You
know
there
are
influence
factors
that
we
take
into
consideration.
So
pictometry
and
aerial
imagery
is
very
helpful
for
us
to
find
influence.
Factors
like
whether
or
not
the
property
would
be
what
would
be
subject
to
noise
and
that
type
of
thing
from
railroad
tracks
or
heavy
traffic.
Another
one
is,
you
know
whether
or
not
it
backs
up
to
water,
so
in
in
the
in
our
pictometry
application.
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We
can
also
turn
these
other
layers
on
and
off
and
in
this
case,
I've
turned
on
the
FEMA
flood
map
layer,
and
so
it's
this
is
very
helpful
for
us
to
to
turn
this
layer
on
in
particular
and
see
whether
or
not
a
property
and
how
much
of
a
property
does
lie
within
the
the
FEMA
flood
zone.
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There
are
also
some
third-party
add-on
applications
that
we've
we've
used
a
couple
of
different
times
since
I've
been
PVA
and
it's
changed.
Change,
detection
or
sketch
verification
change.
Detection
would
be
where
they
will
take
two
different
sets
of
aerial
imagery
and
and
compare
them
automated.
Compare
them
not
just
looking
at
them
physically,
but
they
have
algorithms
that'll,
compare
it
and
look
for
differences
in
the
and
the
properties
and
here's
the
deliverable
that
we
get
back.
In
this
particular
case.
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So
looking
at
zooming
in
here
this
is
the
this
is
the
one
that's
circled
here,
zoomed
in
compared
over
a
couple
different
years
and
you
can
see
pretty
dramatic
change
in
those
properties
and
also,
if
you
take
a
look,
a
little
closer,
the
properties
around
them.
There's
significant
changes
in
in
several
other
properties
around
there.
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So
that's
in
a
nutshell:
that's
how
we
use
aerial
imagery
and-
and
we
do
use
it
very
consistently.
It's
aside
from
our
camera
system,
which
is
the
the
database
and
the
application
that
helps
us
place
value
we
probably
use
this
application
more
than
anything
and
having
it
integrated
with
GIS
is,
is
extremely
helpful.
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I
want
to
ask
Mr
O'neill,
so
if
the
state's
going
to
go
through
a
state
initiative,
what
are
you
projecting
or
what
you're
looking
in
terms
of
cost
savings
by
using
and
data
sharing
with
them,
not
only
from
an
aerial,
Imaging
and
oblique,
basically,
oblique,
is
basically
a
sort
of
a
side
view.
Ortho
is
basically
straight
down
images.
So
what
do
you,
what
kind
of
money
you're
going
to
save
by
by
working
with
the
state,
in
order
to
do
all
that?
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You
know
we're
where
one
of
the
few
government
agencies
that
are
required
to
actually
go
to
a
property
and
physically
inspect
it
on
a
regular
basis,
and
that's
once
every
four
years,
but
we
did
get
a
a
ruling
from
the
Attorney
General's
office
not
too
long
ago
that
we
can
use
pictometry
to
satisfy
that
requirement
of
doing
inspection
so
so
having
this
technology
could
be
a
significant
cost
savings.
Okay,.
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So
and
obviously
you
just
go
through
and
provide
the
valuation
of
any
changes
within
that
property
correct,
so
there's
not
any
type
of
there's,
not
any
type
of
use
of
of
lat,
long
or
elevation
data
that
goes
into
your
images
in
order
to
provide
a
better
service.
What
I'm
getting
to
is,
is
there
any?
Do
you
know
of
any
other
ability
for
other
agencies
within
the
county
to
use
this,
for,
like
fire,
firefighting,
First,
Response
and
looking
to
see
the
you
know,
entrance
or
exits
of
a
particular
building.
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Yeah,
it's
difficult
for
me
to
to
speak
directly
to
that,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
and
totally
all
the
agencies
of
local
government,
the
fire
department,
the
police
department,
all
heavily
utilize
the
website
and
specifically
for
the
aerial
imagery.
Okay,.
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E
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This
was
a
path
that
that
we
that
we
went
through
that
night
and
then,
like
I,
said
we
used
a
pictometry
for
since
I
guess:
2013
was
our
first
flight
and
I'm
and
we're
we're
not
able
to
do
as
many
so
we've
used
13
imagery,
and
then
we
used
18
or
19,
and
then
because
we
we
were
a
small
like
I,
said
we're
smaller
and
we
we
have
to
save
up
and
scrimp
and
to
get
this
and
and
we've
finally
got
one.
E
They
have
a
if
it's
an
F4
or
better
they'll
come
in
and
fly
the
path
for
us,
so
they
came
in
on
started
flying
on
Sunday
and
then
by
Monday
night.
E
Our
emergency
responder
people
had
aerial
imageries
of
the
tornado,
damage
in
Mayfield
to
Grace
County
and
all
the
affected
counties
around
us
and
we
were
able
to
as
far
as
the
PVA
we
we
didn't
use
this
imagery
as
far
as
our
assessing
until
like
we,
we
wanted
to
stay
out
of
the
way
the
First
Responders
used
this
imagery
from
from
the
first
two
or
three
weeks
they
looked
at
what
what
where
they
could
get
to
on
on
Sunday
night,
they
were
looking
at
structures
and
FEMA
was
there,
and
so
it
was.
E
It
was
very.
They
used
it
a
lot
right
off
the
bat
for
First
Responders
this.
This
is
something
I've
never
seen
before,
but
that
is
that
is
scarring
from
a
f
possible
F5
at
times
F4
tornado.
So
this
is
our
downtown
part
of
our
downtown
on
the
left,
so
you
know
downtown
most
of
downtown.
That
was
was
gone.
We
we
had.
This
is
our
Courthouse.
We
knew
what
was
gone
and
what
wasn't
gone.
E
This
is
this
is
the
cattle
Factory
where
that-
and
this
was
our
one
of
our
major
employers-
it's
a
chicken
hatchery
that
was
was
gone.
This
was
a
nursing
home
that
nobody
Pat
no
parity,
nobody
perished
in
everybody
survived
it.
You
know
it's
it's
a.
We
had
about
10
million
Acres
of
our
bushels
of
of
corn.
You
know
gone
and
in
this
at
our
Grainery,
but
what
what
the
aerial
imagery
helped
us
do,
but
before
we
went
out,
we
could
look
at
the
arrow
photos.
E
Zoom
in
on
the
pass
in,
like
the
front
of
the
house,
would
look
okay,
but
when
we
did
the
oblique
and
we
go
around
the
back
of
the
house,
the
whole
the
whole
back
was,
you
know,
blown
out,
you
know,
so
it
was.
That
was
a
a
really
really
good
tool
and
of
course
you
know,
a
lot
of
them
were
just
like
that.
E
You
know
we
had
200
and
we
were
able
to
Camp
with
our
200
105
commercial
buildings,
completely
gone
60
commercial
buildings
damaged
and
225
residents
is
gone
and
262
roofs
and
such
so.
That's
that's
where
we
use
the
imagery
and
and
we'll
hopefully
now
we're
we're,
rebuilding
and
we're
finding.
You
know
new
new
structures
to
you
know
to
put
on
to
help
help
the
county
and-
and
it
was
very
helpful.
A
Great
representative
Dawson
has
a
question
I
believe
yes,.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I,
greatly
appreciate
these
photos
right
here.
Question
I
want
to
ask
you
of
course,
living
in
Christian
County
and
the
impact
that
we
suffer
from
the
tornado.
E
Level,
actually
it's
in
Mayfield
in
Grace
County
as
everybody's.
If
anybody
and
everybody's
priced
a
house
lately,
we
did
have
a
dip
in
total
assessment
last
year,
but
we
are,
we
did
not
have
to
lower.
We
did
not
have
to
raise
a
rate
just
strictly
because
of
how
much
we'd
already
put
on
before
the
year.
E
You
know
and
the
the
housing
and
stuff
that
is
sold
that
weren't
in
this
path
made
up
for
this
1680
million
dollars
that
we
lost
so
this
year,
we're
actually
going
to
be
I,
told
us,
I,
told
the
Mayfield
superintendent
last
week
that
he's
going
to
have
more
tax
base
this
year
than
he
had
the
pre-tornado
okay.
So
it's
it's
really
we're
we're
putting
we're
taking
it's
just
we're
putting
newer
houses
in
the
city
sure
that
were
before
they
were
forty,
fifty
thousand
dollar
houses
and
now
we're
at
the
150
to
200
000.
Well,.
G
That
had
been
taken
and
we
were
taking
that
into
consideration.
Knowing
that
as
property
was
destroyed,
we
were
seeing
that
within
our
school
districts
with
their
local
governments
that
it
could
have
a
negative
impact
on
you.
We
were
paying
close
attention
to
you
on
that.
Another
question
I
want
to
ask
you
mentioned
about
First
Responders.
Using
the
aerial
photos.
Are
they
able
to
determine
addresses
yeah.
E
From
that,
yes,
on
the
on
the
I,
don't
have
I'm,
not
a
I'm,
not
going
to
be
able
to
pull
this
up,
but
there
was
a
a
website
that,
through
this
pictometry,
all
of
my
Parcels
are
up
there.
All
of
the
addresses
were
up
there
names
and
addresses
so
the
when
they
went
out
there
when
FEMA
had
our
stuff.
They
knew
who
lived
at
this
place
and.
G
They
knew
the
property
owners,
and
that
was
another
issue.
We've
run
into,
of
course,
as
I
said,
representing
an
area
and
actually
my
home
personally,
taking
a
direct
shot
from
the
tornadoes.
I
know
we
had
an
issue
come
up
earlier
in
December,
where
there
were
additional
checks
from
the
from
the
cabinet.
Here
that
went
out,
and
some
of
those
checks
went
to
individuals
who
did
not
live
in
the
areas
or
were
not
impacted
and
I
was
very
concerned.
G
The
public
protection
cabinet
those
those
checks
going
out,
especially
when
individuals
that
were
impacted
by
the
storms
on
money
that
was
coming
back
to
the
counties
from
those
donated
dollars
were
towed.
They
could
not
access
those
dollars
unless
they
only
worked
for
unmet
expenses
and
most
all
of
us
who
were
impacted
by
the
tornado,
had
already
figured
out
a
way
to
pay
for
our
repairs
and
were
not
able
to
access
and
I'm
a
strong
believer
that
each
individual
County
should
have
a
long-term
Disaster
Recovery
Group
put
together.
G
So,
in
the
event,
not
if,
but
when
this
occurs
again,
that
if
donated
money
dollars
come
in
that
it
can
go
to
those
local
counties,
those
individual
counties
and
they
can
get
that
money
out
to
help
those
people
who
are
desperately
in
need
of
help.
But
thank
you
I
appreciate
seeing
this
right
here,
former
member
of
our
Christian
County
Fiscal
Court.
It's
greatly
appreciated
knowing
what
our
pvas
are
doing.
Yep.
A
Great
any
other
questions
very
good
I
do
have
one
last
question
for
y'all,
and
that
is
was
the
additional
flyover
to
cover
the
tornado.
Is
that
additional
added
cost,
or
is
that
in
present
better
than
you
are
in
a
contract?
Yeah.
C
H
Not
as
much
of
a
question
as
a
statement
I'm
in
Paducah
reading
room
131
going
towards
him,
so
you
Mayfield,
Graves,
County
and
I-
just
want
to
express
to
you
my
appreciation
for
everything.
That's
been
done
down
there,
but
I've
got
to
know
Kathy
real
well,
the
mayor
of
graves
county
and,
of
course
Richard
Heath
is
is
close
to
me,
but
the
devastation
that
happened
there
was
just
it.
It
would
really
break
your
heart.
H
I
was
there
the
morning
after
early
and
was
there
for
several
days
and
make
quite
a
few
trips
over
there,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
just
you.
You
had
said
that
you're
a
smaller
County.
You
can't
do
as
many
flyovers
and
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
You
know
the
larger
counties,
sometimes
working
with
cooperation
from
local
other
officials,
such
as
the
city
and
everything,
have
privileges
smaller
ones.
H
Don't
so,
and
also
chaired
the
PBA
task
force
then
on
before
last,
and
had
been
working
on
our
mapping
for
several
years.
So
just
I'm
just
wanting
to
make
sure
I'm
hearing
things
right,
because
one
of
the
purposes
is
we've
got
counties
that
don't
have
flyovers
at
all
at
all
and
if
you
can
imagine,
if
you've
been
through
a
situation
like
this,
and
you
have
no
records
to
go
back
to
nothing
it,
it
can
be
devastating.
H
So
just
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
as
a
comment
as
we
move
along
in
these
testimonies,
so
everyone
can
understand,
you
know,
sort
of
the
direction
we're
headed
here.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair.
A
Yeah
you're
welcome.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
your
testimony.
Thank
you.
I
see,
Mr
Crawford
and
Mr
thackett
y'all
my
mind.
Making
a
way
up
here.
I
appreciate
it.
A
And
if
you
don't
mind,
just
raise
your
right
hand,
do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
about
the
truth.
I.
I
I
And
well,
we
don't
have
a
formal
presentation
for
you
this
morning
or
this
afternoon-
we're
really
here
with
Kent
Annis,
to
provide
his
support
for
him,
but
but
I
will
say
that
this
program
is
going
to
be
a
huge
Advantage
for
the
pvas.
It's
really
a
windfall
for
them,
not
not
sure,
since
a
windfall,
but
this
is
going
to
be
a
tremendous
project
for
the
state
of
Kentucky
and
All
State
agencies
to
get
these
flyovers
done.
I
As
you
said,
many
counties,
the
small
medium
counties-
they
don't
have
this
information,
Fayette
County
does
Jefferson
County
does
Northern
Kentucky
does
a
lot
of
small
and
medium
counties.
They
don't
have
this.
This
is
going
to
be
great
for
them.
So
there's
a
lot
of
good
information.
That's
going
to
be
coming
in
the
in
the
coming
months
and
years
with
due
to
this
project
and
we're
very
appreciative
of
that.
A
Sorry
I'm
telling
people
to
turn
the
mic
on
I
talked
to
Ken
a
few
minutes
ago
and
I
just
want
to
ask
you
I'm
trying
to
get
a
grasp.
Obviously
we're
looking
at
a
budget
next
year
and
I
got
an
idea
and
I
thought
I'm
sure
can't
we'll
highlight
this
down
the
road
I'm
trying
to
get
an
idea,
what
the
cost
savings
will
be
for
the
pbas
or
really
when
I
say
pbas
may
not
more
of
a
totality
approach
in
terms
of
the
counties.
A
Obviously,
some
counties
don't
have
anything
but
I
want
to
see
how
much
see
how
much
savings
these
the
counties
will
have
because
I
talked
to
logic.
Kurt
bottom
have
utmost
respect
for
him,
he's
looking
at
250
to
300
000
that
he
will
save
in
his
budget
in
order
to
do
that.
So,
if
you
don't
have
the
information
I
really
appreciate,
if
you,
if
you
give
that
to
us
as
soon
as
you
can,
on
the
cost
of
all
all
the
counties
that
that
will
have
the
Savings
in.
I
A
Now
and
I
also
like
to
find
out
what
what
type
of
collaboration,
if
you
could
make
a
couple
of
bullet
points,
collaborations
you're
going
to
have
with
these
counties
in
order
to
bring
all
these
different
layers
into
a
centralized
location
for
them
to
save,
but
also
for
say,
the
state
in
terms
of
accident,
because
this
this
affects
not
only
building
but
also
affects.
Agriculture
and
Mining
affects
a
lot
of
things.
So
I'm
trying
to
get
an
understanding.
How
much
money
is
actually
going.
A
Any
questions
from
the
members
yeah
Mr
Bridges
representative
Bridges
go
ahead.
H
I'll
just
follow
up
on
that
I
know,
I
said
on
the
natural
resources
and
energy,
so
the
the
geologic
and
everything
comes
up
from
time
to
time
and
then
also
on
Transportation
with
First
Responders
and
Road
contractors,
and
all
of
this
and
I
probably
should
have
talked
to
the
pbas
and
I
apologize
for
you
know,
but
there's
there's
there's
implications
that
go
far
beyond
just
what
we're
talking
about
today.
H
As
far
as
the
savings
goes
and,
and
that's
part
of
the
purpose
and
I'm,
of
course,
I'm
a
little
partial,
because
I've
worked
on
all
these
projects
for
the
last
three
years
or
so
so
just
I'm
trying
to
bring
a
an
educational
part
to
these
comments
as
we
come
along,
so
the
other
community
members
can
can
see
where
we
started
and
where
we're
headed,
but
the
the
the
savings
I
talked
to
the
land
office
in
the
basement.
H
Here
that
I'm
finding
out
about
90
of
our
members,
don't
even
know
exist
and
there
there
there's
a
bigger
thing.
When
we
talked
I
appreciate
you
showing
the
FEMA
flood
maps,
we
had
an
instance
a
few
years
ago
where
a
city
had
expanded.
H
They
didn't
have
the
mapping
capabilities
to
quantify
or
verify
that,
but
when
FEMA
comes
in
and
there's
a
flood
or
there's
a
national
disaster,
sometimes
their
Appropriations
are
per
City
Per
County.
For
this
or
that
and
I
know
there
was
a
great
extensive
amount
of
work
had
to
come
out
because
that
City
had
annexed
and
gone
out
so
far,
but
it
wasn't
done
properly
because
they
didn't
have
the
tools
to
do
it
and
it
it
could
have
caused
that
City
several
million
dollars
in
FEMA
funding
because
of
the
improper
thing.
H
So
when
we
do
the
overall,
this
could
and
I'm
not
going
to
call
any
names,
but
this
small
ski
City
in
the
small
County
it
couldn't
have
done
it.
Just
don't
have
these
capabilities
available,
so
I
just
want
to
stress
part
of
the
intent
of
of
what
the
purpose
of
these
These
fundings
are
and
then
on
top
of
that,
currently,
just
just
the
cost
of
what
we're
doing
I
do
know
that
I
can
help
you
with,
and
you
know
it's
We've
allotted
8.5
million
over
the
over
this
biennial
budget
each
year.
Yes,.
I
C
H
G
I
A
H
A
You're
welcome.
Thank
you,
gentlemen,
appreciate
it
can't
and
I
I
do
want
to
I.
Do
want
to
emphasize
that
this
our
GIS
Department
not
to
inflate
Kent's
ego
or
anything
like
that.
But
we've
got
a
really
pretty
Dynamic
group
of
GIS
professionals
within
the
state
and
they
have
been
recognized
on
several
occasions
throughout
the
country
as
well
as
logic.
A
A
A
F
I
wouldn't
enter
it.
Thank
you
all
right,
I
want
to
provide
a
project
overview,
give
you
a
little
status
update
and
talk
about
data
sharing,
as
you
requested
first
off
just
an
overview.
We
want
to
continue
the
development
of
our
base
mapping
assets
by
using
these
appropriated
General
funds,
as
representative
Bridges
allude
to
it's
8.5
million
a
year
and
it
is
to
acquire
Statewide
coverage,
not
just
this
isn't
a
county
by
county
project.
This
is
Statewide
coverage
of
three
inch
resolution.
Think
about
how
small
that
is.
F
That's
each
pixel
Ortho,
which,
as
you
indicated,
is
the
Nader
view
the
straight
up
and
down
view
or
the
obliques,
which
is
from
an
angle
the
companion
bill
that
was
associated
with
this
funding
specifically
said
it
needed
to
meet
the
needs
of
state
government,
the
pbas
and
all
units
of
local
government.
F
The
Commonwealth
will
own
this
imagery.
There
will
be
no
use
restrictions.
A
couple
of
the
things
that
you
all
were
shown
previously
were
copyrighted
products.
The
these
are
not.
These
will
be
shared
openly
in
the
public
domain,
the
imagery
that
we
acquire
must
meet
or
exceed
the
standards
that
were
adopted
by
the
geographic
information,
advisory,
Council
and
there's
very
specific
things
in
there
in
those
standards
that
make
sure
it
meets
the
needs
of
like
transportation,
from
an
engineering
perspective
that
it's
appropriate
for
all
types
of
infrastructure
development.
F
F
As
noted,
the
imagery
will
be
freely
available.
All
units
of
government
and
those
in
the
private
sector
contract
was
awarded
last
June,
two
representatives
from
units
of
local
government,
multiple
state
agencies
and
also
looks
like
I've,
missed
a
a
line
there,
two
representatives
from
the
Department
of
Revenue,
so
Mike
Tackett,
Tom
Crawford,
who
were
just
up
here.
They
were
on
the
Review
Committee,
along
with
folks
from
logic
and
also
a
lot
of
other
state
agencies,
as
per
the
the
legislation.
F
Procurement
of
a
non-licensed
product
ensures
that
the
greatest
number
of
users
are
going
to
be
able
to
put
their
eyes
on
this.
If
we
had
a
licensed
product
that
wasn't
going
to
be
the
case,
so
the
imagery
will
be
used
to
design
and
build
Transportation,
Water
and
Wastewater
infrastructure
and
communication
infrastructure.
A
lot
of
talk
about
Broadband
these
days-
and
this
will
be
helpful
for
that
as
well
to
market
the
Commonwealth
to
investors
and
attract
tourists
to
improve
the
situational
awareness
of
our
First
Responders
and
that
particular
bullet
right
there.
F
There
may
be
more
value
in
that
than
most
anything
we
do
when
somebody
shows
up
at
your
house
they're
going
to
have
a
better
situational
awareness
than
they
would
have
had
previously
prepare
for
respond
to
and
rebuild
after
disasters,
improve
land
use
and
Community
planning
and,
as
noted,
assess
properties
for
the
purpose
of
taxation.
Of
course,
manage
our
public
lands.
There's
a
little
example
there
from
Greenup
County.
That's
a
three
inch
resolution.
You
can
count
the
headstones,
for
example,.
F
Our
cities
and
counties
and
you're
talking
about
the
cost
savings.
You
know
this
is
going
to
be
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
a
year
that
County
budgets
or
city
budgets
aren't
going
to
have
to
account
for
and
and
I
think.
This
has
been
hit
up
on
already
that
today
it's
the
Haves
and
have-nots.
You
know
the
Louisville's,
the
Lexington,
the
Northern
Kentucky
Paducah
Owensboro.
F
They
have
the
means
to
do
this,
but
you
heard
the
guy
from
graves
county
say
you
know
they
really
had
to
scrap
to
get
the
money
for
this
and
it's
the
have-nots
that
we're
really
helping
here.
So
it
doesn't
matter
whether
you're
in
Louisville
or
Lexington
or
Louisa
you're,
going
to
have
the
same
level
of
data
that
that
all
the
big
communities
have
you're
going
to
have
a
leg
up,
we're
going
to
really
level
the
playing
field.
Here,
one
of
the
things
that's
important-
and
this
is
in
our
specs
this.
F
F
F
F
The
flight
plan
includes
1515
separate
flight
lines
over
63
000
miles
that
they
have
to
fly
and
they
have
to
do
that
under
those
conditions
I
just
listed
before
the
trees
leaf
back
out.
This
two-year
project
schedule
is
extremely
ambitious
in
terms
of
year.
One
acquisition
there
was
a
little
bit
acquired
in
the
fall
2022
area,
which
you
can
see
up
there
in
northeastern
Kentucky
conditions.
Just
didn't
allow
for
a
a
great
acquisition.
F
Five
planes
and
sensors
are
currently
positioned
for
the
project.
Although
I
was
told
yesterday,
I
think
there's
now,
six
in
the
state,
more
planes
and
sensors
are
being
staged
because
weather
conditions
and
Sun
angle
are
improving.
Flights
have
now
occurred
on
12
different
days.
Not
11.
I
need
to
update
that
and,
of
course,
our
sun
angle.
Conditions
are
getting
better
with
every
passing
day
as
we
move
towards
Summer,
and
this
is
the
these
are
the
stats.
As
of
yesterday.
It
was
a
13.2,
as
of
today
it's
14.4
percent,
complete.
F
F
You
know:
you've
got
to
have
roads.
You've
got
to
have
streams,
you've
got
to
have
boundaries.
You've
got
to
have
everything
else
to
look
at
on
your
mapping.
If
the
pbas
only
had
parcel
lines
and
didn't
have
any
of
these
other
layers,
they'd
be
at
a
real
disadvantage,
it'd
be
very
difficult
for
them
to
do
their
work,
so
this
increases
Roi
promotes
fact-based
decision
making.
F
Obviously
it
has
a
positive
economic
impact,
encourages
Civic
engagement
and
reduces
duplicative
spending
and
that's
the
reason
we
started
the
KY
from
above
project
back
in
2010
and
got
it
off
the
ground
in
2012,
because
we
were
aware
that
multiple
jurisdictions
were
being
flown
multiple
times
by
different
entities.
So
we
need
to
reduce
this
duplicity
spending.
F
We
are
a
national
leader
in
GIS
and
data
sharing
the
imagery
acquired
through
this
effort.
As
we've
noted
will
be
shared
freely
with
all
units
of
government,
including
the
pbas,
and
as
a
public
domain
data
set,
the
image
will
be
made
accessible
to
Citizens
and
the
private
sector,
so
it
won't
be
locked
down.
You
won't
need
a
password
to
get
in
and
see
it.
F
H
H
F
The
main
thing
that
would
hold
us
up
from
completing
it
in
a
two-year
period
has
nothing
to
do
with
technology.
Has
nothing
to
do
with
funding
has
nothing
to
do
with
our
contractor
or
anything
of
that
sort
has
to
do
with
Mother,
Nature
and
I.
Believe
yes,
most
States
of
our
size
of
our
geographic
area
would
attempt
to
do
this
in
a
three-year
period,
not
a
two-year
period.
F
Some
of
the
larger
States
would
approach
this
in
a
four-year
period
now
logic
and
you
flaming
you,
you
indicated
that
you
spoke
with
Kurt
Bynum
logic
does
theirs
every
three
years,
historically,
Lexington
used
to
do
theirs
every
three
years,
but
I,
don't
know
what
cycle
they're
on
now
same
thing
in
Northern
Kentucky,
so
in
these
larger
urban
areas
across
the
state
they're
already
on
a
three-year
cycle,
and
ideally
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
you
know
if
we
could
get
us
on
a
three-year
cycle
and
a
line
with
these
other
urban
areas
in
their
three-year
cycle?
H
I
do
have
a
few
more
questions.
Mr
chair
have
there
been
any
problems
where
you
know
this
is
a
short
session
cleanup
session
and
everything
we're
trying
to
look
at
what's
been
put
out.
There
are,
have
there
been
any
problems
with
sharing
of
information
and
different
things
like
that
to
further
this
project.
F
In
terms
of
aerial
photography,
there
have
many
issues
with
sharing
of
that
data,
as
I
alluded
to.
One
of
the
things
that
state
government
has
been
asking
for
for
years
is
access
to
the
parcel
data.
You
know
if
we're
doing
a
bypass
study
or
fish
and
wildlife's
trying
to
expand
a
Wildlife,
Management
Area
or
we're
looking
at
right-of-ways
for
infrastructure
things
like
that
right
now.
We
we
not
for
every
County
but
for
most
counties.
F
F
Really
that's
one
of
the
last
holdouts
that
that
we
have
at
this
point,
I
can
say
that
during
the
flood
and
tornado
response,
we
were
able
to
get
a
look
at
the
PBA
partial
data
for
those
response
efforts,
but
it
was
for
your
eyes
only
and
for
First
Responders
only
so
that
was
extremely
valuable
and
I
can
tell
you
when
FEMA
got
their
eyes
on
that
through
the
secure
portal
that
we
set
up.
They
were
very
pleased.
H
F
F
H
Thank
you
I
appreciate
your
testimony
and
the
testimony
of
the
prior
gentleman
and
thank
you
Mr
chair
for
your
patience.
A
F
You
know
I've
I've
had
different
numbers
thrown
at
me
over
the
years.
I've
heard
it's
been
anywhere,
and
this
is
state
agencies
paying
the
pbas,
not
the
private
sector.
You
know
they
can
sell
to
the
private
sector
as
well,
but
I've
heard
anything
from
200
000
to
350
000
a
year,
but
that's
heavily
skewed.
You
know
the
majority
of
that
money
is
mainly
going
towards
some
of
the
the
counties
where
there's
more
growth.
A
Okay,
and
if
you,
if
you
can
quantify
that,
you
know
when
you
have
a
chance,
I
would
appreciate
that,
like
I
said
I'm
just
coming
from
a
budget
standpoint,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
do
in
terms
of
saving
some
money,
so
we
can
reallocate
to
other
things
and
so
forth.
So
what
we
can
do
to
fund
some
money,
no
matter
how
small
or
how
large
would
be
it'd
be
beneficial
good.
Any
other
questions
from
the
members.