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A
This
meaning
and
call
ourselves
to
order
mr
secretary
police
call
the
roll
senator
carroll,
senator
caslin,
senator
douglas
senator
gibbons
senator
kerr,
senator
mcgarvey
senator
meredith,
senator
nemes,
senator
webb,
senator
west
chairman
mcdaniel,
here
very
well.
We
have
a
quorum
duly
constituted
conduct
business
all
right
today.
The
only
thing
we
have
on
our
agenda
is
the
presentation
of
the
commonwealth's
budget
from
the
office
of
the
state
budget.
Director.
A
Gentlemen,
before
you
start
I'd,
ask
yourselves
to
ask
you
to
just
identify
yourselves
for
the
record
and
then
secondarily
we're
going
to
stop
at
10
o'clock
regardless.
So
please,
if
you
could,
keep
it
to
about
35
minutes.
I
think
that
that
is
reasonable.
Give
us
some
time
for
questions
and,
if
there's
anything
you
feel
like
we
need
to
fall
back
to
that
will
work
as
well
to
the
members
of
the
committee.
A
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
inviting
for
inviting
us
today.
Let
me
introduce
myself
john
hicks
state
budget
director.
I
have
with
me
my
two
deputy
state
budget
director
janice
thomas
kevin
cardwell,
also
have
greg
harkinrider,
head
of
our
governor's
office
of
economic
analysis
and
michael
jones,
head
of
our
governor's
office
for
policy
and
research.
So
I
appreciate
you
having
us
today:
we've
got
a
lot
to
cover
we'll
meet
your
timelines
and
leave
time
for
questions
I
want
to
start
out
with
you
know
several.
B
You
know
very
superlative
situations
that
we've
got
in
kentucky
right
now.
Our
economy
is
doing
well
rebounding.
You
know
from
the
covid
pandemic
record
private
sector
investments,
our
fiscal
position
is
the
best
in
40
years,
and
we've
had
record-setting
surpluses
last
year
expect
them
this
year
and
the
governor's
budget
you
know,
takes
the
opportunity.
B
After
after
the
austerity
in
our
state
budgets,
from
2008
to
2019,
including
19
budget
cuts,
we
have
a
once
in
a
generation
opportunity
to
make
targeted
investments
that
will
pay
dividends
for
for
decades
and
a
thread
that
is
common.
You
know,
through
the
governor's
budget,
is
a
connection
to
preparing
kentuckians
for
a
productive
role
in
the
economy,
with
good
wages.
B
This
budget
is
a
responsible
and
real
budget.
Let's
start
out
with
its
sound
economic
assumptions
made
by
our
consensus
forecasting
group
a
group
that
is
comprised
entirely
of
outside
economists
and
financial
experts
and
we're
the
only
state
in
the
country
that
has
this
structure
where
there
is
no
no
partisan
or
institutional
representation.
B
On
the
revenue
forecasting
group,
we
have
a
lot
of
non-recurring
resources,
as
I
mentioned,
from
the
surpluses
that
we
expect
this
year,
but
in
the
governor's
budgets
it's
used
solely
for
non-recurring
spending.
This
budget
pays
down
on
our
pension
liability
and
I'll
talk
about
that
later.
It
has
the
largest
budget
reserve
trust
fund.
Ever
when
governor
beshear
took
office,
kentucky
was
ranked
44th
in
the
country,
we're
now
mid-pack
in
terms
of
the
level
of
our
rainy
day
fund.
It
pays
down
on
the
debt
of
deferred
maintenance
and
this
budget's
more
than
structurally
balanced
revenues.
B
Recurring
revenues
are
greater
than
recurring
spending,
and
this
budget
proposes
to
create
a
disaster,
relief
and
recovery
fund
for
natural
disaster
preparedness.
I'll
talk
about
that
later
and
the
debt
service
ratio.
We
have
a
policy
cap
of
six
percent
of
debt
service,
divided
by
revenues
and
right
now,
in
the
governor's
budget,
it's
down
to
3.68
the
lowest
since
that
policy
was
adopted
back
in
the
80s
next
slide.
Please
just
a
quick
bar
chart.
Look
at
general
fund
revenues
from
last
year's
final
fiscal
21
to
the
revised
estimates
for
fiscals
22
through
24.
B
you
can
see
last
year
was
a
was
a
surprisingly
boon
year.
10.9
increase
two
of
two
billion
dollar
revenue
surplus
and
in
the
december
2021
consensus
forecasting
group
estimates.
They
predict
a
seven
and
a
half
percent
growth
rate
in
the
current
year,
and
that
is
a
one
billion
one
point:
nine
billion
dollar
revenue
surplus,
forecasted
and
I'll
show
you
the
details
of
those
in
a
minute
and
then
moving
back
to
more
historical
alignment
with
growth
rates
in
kentucky's
general
fund
revenues.
B
A
2.1
percent
growth
rate
in
the
first
year
of
the
next
biennium,
followed
by
4.2
percent
next
slide,
shows
some
of
the
details
of
the
current
year's
revised
general
fund
estimate
and
basically
look
over
the
right
hand
side
and
see
the
differences
between
the
enacted
estimate.
The
top
you
know
our
top
big
three
taxes,
you
know
comprise
the
bulk
of
of
the
surplus
down
at
the
very
bottom.
We
we
did
have
a
225
million
dollar
settlement.
B
You
know
that
really
beefed
up
that
other
column,
but
in
individual
and
sales
taxes
doing
great
corporation
and
income
in
llet,
the
business
taxes
really
booming
corporate
profits.
You
know
across
the
country
are
very
high
in
in
and
reflected
in
our
revenues.
B
B
As
we
move
into
looking
at
the
next
biennium,
you
can
see
a
more
more
modest.
You
know
growth
rate
headed
up
by
our
primary
our
two
biggest
taxes,
individual
income
and
sales,
and
use
taxes
with
with
higher
growth
rates
than
the
totals,
and
you
can
see
a
really
steady.
You
know
an
expectation,
though
it
shows
a
decline
in
business
taxes
in
23.
B
That's
because
we
expect
22
to
be
a
you
know,
kind
of
a
peak
year,
given
the
circumstances,
property
taxes,
very,
very
stable
tax
and,
of
course,
we
get
revenue
forecast
from
the
lottery
corporation
and
then,
as
expected,
you
know
a
slight
decline
year
over
year
in
the
cigarette
tax.
So
with
that,
you
know
we're
talking
about
moving,
you
know
to
into
the
14
billion
dollar
range
in
in
the
next
budget.
B
Next
slide,
let
me
move
to
the
road
fund
briefly.
This
is
the
consensus
forecast,
revised
estimate
with
a
growth
rate
of
22.3
million
2.3
percent,
my
apologies
and
and
more
modest
growth
rates.
You
can
see
in
the
second
fiscal
year
in
fiscal
24,
you'll
see
a
decline
in
the
motor
fuels
tax.
You
know
that
that
is
related
to
the
automatic
rate
setting
associated
with
the
average
wholesale
price,
and
so
that
has
more
to
do
with
rate
changing
than
usage.
B
Now
the
motor
vehicle
usage
tax
we've
had
some
some
really
good
years.
In
fact,
fiscal
21
was
a
big
year
in
basically
the
sales
tax
on
on
the
motor
vehicles,
and
you
can
see
that
that
figure
is
expected
to
decline
slightly
over
a
really
big
year.
We
had
in
21.
B
next
slide.
Chairman
just
wanted
to
show
on
the
governor's
budget
recommendation.
I
made
the
comment
earlier
that
recurring
spending
is
less
than
recurring
revenues,
and
you
can
see
the
values
here
of
a
billion
dollars
in
the
current
in
fiscal
23
and
about
600
million
dollars
in
fiscal
24,
which
means
that
there's
more
one-time
spending
in
the
governor's
budget
for
investments
than
just
the
one-time
revenues,
for
example
the
surplus
in
the
current
fiscal
year
being
the
most
prominent
source
of
one-time
revenue.
B
So
I
wanted
to
show
this
to
show
that
that,
even
with
the
really
good
times
on
the
revenue
side,
this
is
a
responsible
disciplined
budget
that
that
in
fact,
has
a
as
a
it's
more
than
structurally
balanced.
With
that
I
mean
the
spending
on
a
recurring
basis
is
less
than
the
revenues
on
a
recurring
basis.
B
Next
slide,
let
me
start
out
with
you
know:
the
governor
has
talked
about
his
budget
speed
about
building
a
world-class
education
system.
In
this
budget,
the
governor
adds
nearly
two
billion
dollars
in
from
the
general
fund
to
the
education
budget
defined
as
pre-k
through
high
school.
These
are
general
fund
values
in
excess
of
the
enacted
fiscal
22
budgets
over
900
million
each
of
the
next
two
fiscal
years,
added
to
our
education
system
next
slide
and
that's
led
by
our
formula
funding
in
kentucky
to
seek
funding.
B
The
total
amount
of
appropriations
recommended
increased
over
the
biennium
by
almost
17
percent,
over
400
million
in
the
first
year
and
another
100
million
to
over
500
million
in
the
second
year.
This
is
the
largest
increase
since
cara
was
enacted
by
the
1990
general
assembly
and
and
that
back
in
1990
the
first
fiscal
year,
there
was
a
significant
increase
over
the
old
formula,
but
this
would
be
the
largest
increase
since
and
and
inside
that
in
seek.
You
know
very
important
elements.
B
The
base
per
pupil,
which
is
sitting
at
four
thousand
dollars
right
now,
has
been
there
for
four
years:
bumping
up
to
4
300
in
fiscal
23,
into
4,
500
and
fiscal
24..
That's
a
500
dollar
increase
in
the
base
per
pupil
or
a
12,
and
a
half
percent
increase
it's
still
less
than
if
you
were
to
inflation,
adjust
the
seek
base
for
people
back
before
the
great
recession,
and
so
the
governor
wants
to
devote
you
know.
We've
got
good
fiscal
conditions.
He
wants
to
devote
a
large
share
of
that
to
k-12
education.
B
This
budget
also
fully
funds
student
transportation
and
people
transportation,
which
has
been
held
static
for
years,
and
you
know
a
handful
of
whenever
there
was
some
excess
funds
in
the
last
couple
years
be
able
to
add
to
it.
This
adds
175
million
to
meet
the
department
of
education's
estimate
of
fully
funding
pupil
transportation.
B
In
addition
to
the
things
we
we
refer
to
internally
as
the
nicholls
it
equalizes
school
district,
local
tax
levies,
they're
dedicated
to
their
capital,
it
shows
the
additional
amount
over
the
current
fiscal
year,
74
and
62
million
respectfully.
B
We've
also
unfrozen
the
value
of
the
national
board
certification,
salary
supplement,
and
that
is
fully
funded.
You
know
in
this
budget
next
slide
something
very
exciting:
the
governor's
proposing
172
million
dollars
more
a
year
to
finance
universal
preschool
for
all
four-year-olds.
This
is
a
dollar
estimate
provided
to
us
by
the
department
of
education.
B
Lots
of
evidence
show
the
benefits
to
you
know
the
future
productivity
of
individuals
who
go
through
a
preschool.
This
is
also
a
pocketbook
issue.
Other
jurisdictions
who
have
implemented
universal
preschool
have
shown
a
significant
improvement
in
the
labor
force
participation
of
women
with
young
children,
and
that
has
been
that
has
been
shown
by
several
studies
and
and
and
in
addition,
you
know
the
you
know
the
savings
to
a
family
of
being
able
to
send
their
child.
You
know
to
to
a
publicly
funded
preschool
obvious.
B
B
So
this
will
be
the
first
budget
that
proposes
you
know
fully
funding
four-year-old
through
high
school
education
in
kentucky
and
with
the
additional
resources
provided
through
the
seek
base
per
pupil
provided
by
the
additional
pupil
transportation.
Funding
school
districts
will
have
more
resources,
be
able
to
do
other
things.
Things
they've
not
been
able
to
do.
One
of
the
things
the
governor
proposes
is
to
have
a
minimum
five
percent
salary
increase
for
all
school
staff
in
the
first
fiscal
year,
fiscal
2023.
B
The
governor
is
proposing
a
new
teacher
student
loan
forgiveness
program
trying
to
address
some
of
the
retention
issues
with
particularly
young
teachers.
It
provides
26
million
annually
for
a
maximum
three
thousand
dollar
annual
award
for
each
year.
A
public
school
teacher
is
employed
as
a
public
school
teacher
in
kentucky.
B
So
that
is
something
that
we
are,
that
the
governor's
budget
proposed
that
is
new,
a
very
substantial
amount
of
money,
attempting
to
address
the
ability
to
not
only
to
recruit
but
to
retain
our
good
teachers
next
slide
in
the
area
of
career
and
technical
education,
and
particularly
this
is
in
the
secondary
area
of
career
and
technical
education.
B
In
the
current
budget,
the
general
assembly
appropriated
75
million
dollars
as
pool
of
funds
for
a
competitive
grant
program
to
renovate
or
improve
area
vocational
center
facilities.
That
was
very
successful
and
in
fact,
we
had
way
more
demand
than
we
had
the
supply
of
funds.
The
governor
proposes
another
97
million
in
the
current
year
to
renovate
another
11
area,
vocational
scanner,
centers
that
were
already
scored
and,
in
fact,
scored
very
closely
to
the
ones
that
had
been
funded.
B
But
but
the
pool
ran
out
of
money
and
then
proposes
a
second
round
in
the
new
fiscal
year:
fiscal
23
of
75
million
dollars
for
another
round
of
applications,
something
that
has
been
a
vestige
of
austere
budgets
is
that
in
locally
operated
area,
vocational
centers,
new
ones
that
have
come
online
but
were
not
a
part
of
the
state's
formula
allocation
of
dollars
from
a
central
level
because
of
the
lack
of
funding,
and
so
this
budget
shores
that
up
and
puts
in
8
million
dollars
to
include
12
other
locally
operated
centers
into
that
formula
allocated
by
the
department
of
education
and,
in
addition
about
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
a
year
for
state
operated
career
and
technical
centers
to
improve
their
programs
to
buy
equipment
to
give
them
better
capacity.
B
Next
slide,
please
several
other
things
in
the
governor's
budget
for
k-12.
Some
of
this
re
is,
is
catching
up
to
past
budget
cuts,
for
example,
in
professional
development,
11.9
million
each
year.
Added
to
the
budget
you
know
for
for
for
school,
district
personnel,
professional
development
as
well
as
11
million
for
textbooks
and
instructional
resources,
and
given
some
of
the
issues
particularly
related
to
to
covet
and
and
the
isolation
of
nti
days,
some
additional
funding.
B
The
department
asked
for
to
assist
in
social,
emotional,
mental
health
for
for
students
and
staff
education
technology.
B
The
kentucky
education
technology
system
has
had
has
endured
cuts
like
most
areas
in
the
past
15
years,
additional
funding,
there
turnaround
schools
funding
for
the
department
of
education
where
they
have
been
designated
as
the
turnaround
team
for
schools
that
have
identified
as
being
as
through
the
accountability
system
as
needing
improvement,
another
six
million
dollars
to
the
friskies,
the
family
resource
and
youth
service,
centers
and
then
11
million
dollars
in
a
new
initiative
called
early
learning
when
the
department
of
education
has
come
together.
B
I
know
that
the
pritchard
committee
was
participated
to
improve
reading
and
mathematics
or
numeracy
in
the
early
grades
as
a
supplemental
piece
of
work
and
then,
lastly,
on
this
slide
to
restore
the
statutory
per
capita
library
grants
to
local
libraries
of
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
B
This
area
of
the
government
has
endured
250
million
dollars
in
budget
cuts
since
the
great
recession,
and
this
is
just
a
a
down
payment
on
recovering
some
of
the
capacity
loss
through
those
reductions
and
to
and
to
prevent.
You
know,
tuition
increases
that
become
a
component
of
you
know,
recovering
from
that
level
of
budget
cuts.
B
The
governor
reinstitutes
60
million
dollars
for
the
bucks
for
brains,
endowment
match
program,
50
million
of
that
to
the
research
institutions,
two-thirds
of
the
uk,
130?
U
of
l
and
10
million
to
the
comprehensive
universities.
These
funds
are
matched
dollar
for
dollar
by
private
donations
and
are
principles
for
which
only
the
interest
can
then
be
used
on
an
ongoing
basis
slide
further
on
in
post-secondary
education,
the
governor
has
proposed
500
million
dollars
in
general
fund
cash
and
I'll
try
to
identify,
mr
chairman,
where
there
are
one-time
monies
being
used
here.
B
As
we
all
know,
the
largest
physical
plant,
the
state
government
has
is
our
universities
and
they
have
had
a
priority
for
years.
Any
an
increase
in
funding
for
that
deferred,
maintenance
at
asset
preservation,
and
this
750
million,
is
a
big
increase.
B
And
then
another
item
is
at
this
point
in
time,
as
we
have
the
resources
we're
adding
funds
to
the
universities
and
kctcs,
we
did
not
want
to
have
an
offset
reduction,
and
so,
instead
of
instead
of
reducing
to
90
or
80
percent,
the
amount
of
the
subsidy
relief
that
was
granted
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
the
governor's
budget
maintains
the
100
value
of
that
subsidy
at
6.6
million
over
the
two
fiscal
years.
B
Additionally,
I
wanted
to
mention
it's
not
on
the
slide.
The
governor's
budget
does
propose
23
million
dollars
in
the
current
fiscal
year
for
kentucky
state
university's
operating
deficit.
It
has
as
a
condition
to
that
funding
that
the
council,
on
postsecondary
its
president,
be
the
gatekeeper
and
be
the
approval
of
allocation
of
those
funds
prior
to
their
release.
B
In
the
governor's
capital
budget,
there
are
19
new
construction
projects
and
that's
in
addition
to
the
500
million
in
asset
preservation
with
bond
funding
of
a
billion
dollars.
It's
been
several
budgets
since
the
commonwealth's
been
able
to
finance
significant
new
construction
projects
for
the
campuses
and
on
student
financial
aid.
The
lottery
revenues
have
been
coming
in
very
well.
B
That
has
enabled
the
higher
education
assistance
authority
for
the
first
time
in
the
current
biennium,
to
have
no
wait
list
on
need-based
a
we've
had
years
and
years
of
wait
lists
and
we
finally
resolved
that
this
budget
proposes
to
increase
their
maximum
award
to
3
300
in
the
second
fiscal
year
and,
as
usual,
keys
is
fully
funded,
mostly
from
the
lottery
and
the
unclaimed
lottery
prize.
B
Money
with
that,
when
you
get
to
there's
about
a
billion
dollars
from
the
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
of
the
american
rescue
plan
act
that
is
yet
to
be
appropriated.
The
governor
proposes
to
the
following
uses:
400
million
dollars
he's
mentioned
of
this
about
premium
paper,
essential
workers
in
accordance
with
the
federal
guidance,
another
250
million
for
water
and
wastewater
infrastructure,
grants
not
loans,
but
grants
75
million
for
assistance
to
nonprofit
organizations
with
10
millions
of
that
set
aside
for
arts
organization
and
then
approximately
another
180
million
with
covet
19
mitigation.
B
When
we
were
looking
at
the
use
of
these
funds
last
year,
we
did
not
think
we
might
need
this
much
money
on
an
ongoing
basis
in
the
in
the
near
future.
For
code
19
mitigation,
but
clearly
with
almost
a
one-third
of
tests
being
positive
recently,
it's
still
a
significant
challenge
for
nursing.
The
governor
proposes
to
use
25
million
for
student
loan
forgiveness
and
another
2
million
for
a
media
effort.
B
Some
additional
funding
for
behavioral
health
facilities,
testing
and
10
million
dollars
for
marketing
of
kentucky's
tourism
for
the
safe
return
of
visitors
back
to
kentucky's
tourism
destinations
next
slide
in
terms
of
public
safety.
B
The
governor
had
announced
previously
and
has
in
this
budget
a
significant
pay
increase
for
state
troopers
and
for
our
telecommunicators
significant
deficiency
in
the
sworn
compliment
of
the
state
police,
we're
at
a
30-year
low
of
the
number
of
troopers
and
they
are
leaving
and
resigning
to
go
to
other
law
enforcement
agencies
who
pay
more
also
proposes
additional
funding
here.
To
return,
the
tier
3
retirement
plan
for
the
state
police
back
to
tier
2.
B
also
includes
accountability,
funding
for
12
million
for
state
police
body
cameras
and
then
also
proposes
from
the
kentucky
law
enforcement
foundation
program
fund,
an
increase
in
this
training,
stipend
of
25,
from
4
000
to
4
600
for
local
law
enforcement
and
firefighters.
B
We're
doing
the
same
thing,
proposing
the
improvement,
the
return
of
the
hazardous
duty
retirement
system
for
state
government,
mostly
in
corrections
and
juvenile
justice
back
to
the
tier
2
retirement
plan,
additional
funding
to
ensure
we
have
an
an
appropriate
caseload
for
our
probation
pro
officers
and
as
we
planned
in
the
last
budget
for
the
design,
the
replacement
of
the
kentucky
state
reformatory,
which
is
crumbling
and
and
is
in
a
labor
market
that
doesn't
permit
us
to
properly
hire
and
staff.
B
B
Governor
had
proposed
some
nursing
assistance
to
give
try
to
deal
with
in
some
ways.
The
issues
of
the
need
for
additional
nursing
staff
includes
six
million
dollars
to
increase
the
nursing
scholarship
program,
which
already
exists
in
the
board
of
nursing
but
doesn't
have
sufficient
funding.
You
can
only
fund
150
awards
a
year.
B
This
can
in
double
the
maximum
award
and
increase
the
reward
recipients
up
to
one
thousand
student
loan
forgiveness,
five
million
each
of
the
five
years
in
the
american
rescue
plan
for
three
thousand
dollars
per
year
and
well
as
a
use
of
the
federal
dollars
for
an
outreach
and
marketing
of
the
nursing
profession.
B
This
budget,
fully
funds,
medicaid
and
medicaid
expansion,
increases
the
waiver
slots
for
our
michelle
p
program
and
supports
for
community
living.
It
extends
the
current
additional
29
per
diem
reimbursement
rates
to
nursing
home
facilities
through
the
end
of
the
next
biennium,
which
totals
including
federal
dollars,
150
million
a
year
and
the
national
government.
B
The
federal
government
has
passed
a
new
988
crisis,
support
line
that
will
create
an
easier
number
to
remember.
It's
replacing
the
national
suicide
prevention
hotline
and
there's
funding
in
here
to
be
devoted
to
the
community
mental
health
centers
to
start
to
staff
up
to
contend
with
an
expected
substantial
increase
in
in
people
who
are
reaching
out
that
need
that
assistance
in
the
world
of
public
health.
The
general
assembly
had
passed
a
transformation
of
the
local
health
department's
legislation
and
now
it's
time
to
fund
it.
B
The
governor
proposed
includes
the
17
million
in
the
first
year
and
19
and
the
second
to
significantly
enable
our
health
departments
who
are
battling.
You
know,
with
the
pandemic
so
courageously
right
now
to
improve
the
services
and
to
stabilize
the
funding
for
them.
In
addition,
the
governor's
got
a
capital
project
to
expand
the
state
laboratory,
particularly
for
public
health
purposes.
It
needs
to
be
modernized.
B
Its
space
no
longer
meets
the
needs
of
neither
the
quality
or
the
volume
of
space,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
with
the
post-secondary
education
as
we're
going
to
give
more
funding
to
public
health
to
do
their
services.
We
don't
want
to
offset
that
additional
funding
with
a
reduction,
and
so
it
prevents
the
cut
of
the
pension
subsidy,
which
was
to
drop
down
to
90
percent
in
the
first
year
and
80
percent
in
the
second.
B
It
does
the
same
thing
for
our
community
mental
health,
centers
and
then
ads
funding
for
pediatric
cancer,
research
to
the
pediatric
research
trust
fund,
another
1.25
million
for
children
and
families.
The
governor's
proposal
is
to
add
350,
more
social
workers
to
reduce
their
caseloads
by
25.
It's
been
so
well
documented.
B
These
the
difficulties
we've
had
in
recruiting
and
retaining
and
dealing
with
the
number
of
workers
there
and
the
governor
has
you
know
a
10
increase
increase
in
social
worker
pay
that
he's
already
instituted
that
continues
through
this
budget
and
for
retention
purposes
wants
to
also
establish
a
loan
student
loan
forgiveness
program
for
social
service
workers
for
each
year
that
they
are
employed
by
the
department
for
community-based
services.
B
As
I
mentioned
earlier
in
the
arpa
funds,
12
million
dollars
each
year
to
extend
the
two
dollars
per
day
increase
for
child
care
providers.
B
It
adds
almost
20
million
dollars
each
year
with
both
state
and
federal
dollars
for
prevention,
services
for
abused
and
neglected
children
and
a
34
increase
in
child
advocacy,
domestic
violence
and
rape
crisis
centers
for
the
good
work
that
they
do
in
the
area
of
children,
families,
senior
meals.
I
mentioned
the
no
wait
list.
The
general
assembly
had
passed
a
reorg
to
create
the
office
of
dementia
services.
B
That's
funded
in
this
budget,
some
additional
funding
to
a
couple
of
programs
in
aging
and
independent
living,
the
caregiver
and
heart
supported
living
programs
and
a
17
rate
increase
for
residential
and
therapeutic
foster
care
services
in
the
world
of
a
world-class
workforce.
As
the
governor
mentioned
world-class
education
system
to
lead
to
a
world-class
workforce
to
attract
world-class
companies,
he
has
a
20
million
dollar
new
initiative
each
year
to
have
competitive
grants
to
education
training
entities
to
build
the
capacity
for
their
programs
that
will
combine
with
an
employer's
commitment
to
hire.
B
The
governor's
budget
wants
to
restore
the
field
services
that
were
cut
back
over
the
last
several
years,
for
unemployment
insurance
adds
funding
to
reinstitute
the
commercial
driver's
license,
training
that
is
run
out
of
the
urban
league
of
louisville
and
to
restore
funding
that
was
zeroed
out
in
the
1820
budget
for
area
health,
education,
centers,
because
this
is
an
air.
B
This
is
a
program
that
really
promotes
the
health
care
workforce
and
the
10
million
dollars
each
year
to
deal
with
to
try
to
recruit
through
a
talent
attraction,
media
campaign,
other
talent
to
come
and
and
do
their
work
here
in
kentucky.
B
B
As
with
the
new
ford
battery
plants,
the
commonwealth
was
fortunate
to
have
worked
on
a
mega
site
to
to
make
that
happen.
The
governor
wants
to
ensure
that
we
have
other
sites
throughout
kentucky's
communities
to
be
able
to
attract
new
businesses
of
size.
He
wants
the
250
million
dollar
pool
of
funds
to
help
develop,
acquire,
provide
infrastructure
to
be
build
ready
in
sites
around
the
commonwealth,
10
million
dollars
for
a
collaborative
up
in
northern
kentucky
on
life
sciences.
B
Companies
up
there
become
creating
a
nexus
there
in
northern
kentucky
they're
partnering
with
the
city
of
covington
to
create
a
life
sciences
lab
75
million
dollars
for
a
state
of
the
art,
agritech
research
and
development
facility
in
eastern
kentucky,
one
in
which
the
commonwealth
will
be
partnering
closely
with
universities,
particularly
the
university
of
kentucky
it'll,
be
a
state-owned
facility
and
then
five
million
dollars
in
worker
training
investment.
B
B
All
effective
may
one,
rather
than
on
their
anniversary
dates,
but
supports
the
house's
proposal
to
raise
it
to
six
percent
increase,
also
with
a
may
one
date
in
order
to
give
our
state
workers
the
first
raise
in
many
many
years
and
to
give
their
get
that
money
to
them
now,
rather
than
some
of
them
waiting
all
the
way
to
june
it
fully
funds
and
pays
down
our
pension
liabilities,
250
million
in
23
500
million
and
24
directed
to
the
our
worst
funded
retirement
system,
the
non-hazardous
plan
and
the
idea
is
rather
than
create
budgetary
relief.
B
The
governor's
budget
incorporates
everything
we
know
about
the
federal
infrastructure,
investment
and
jobs
act,
notably
in
the
area
of
transportation,
a
22
increase
over
the
base
level
of
funding
from
the
federal
highway
trust
fund
over
the
next
several
years.
In
this
budget
it
requires
an
additional
state
match
of
185
million
dollars.
B
That'll
leverage
another
775
million
in
additional
federal
dollars
through
that
again,
I'm
saying,
in
addition
to
the
amounts
that
we
have
been
receiving,
he
for
the
first
time,
a
historic
change
here
to
put
general
fund
money,
250
million
dollars
to
help
major
transportation
projects,
we're
trying
to
create
a
path
to
to
construct
a
companion,
brent,
a
bridge
to
brent
spence
up
in
northern
kentucky
and
if
kentucky
puts
our
skin
in
the
game,
we
think
that
moves
us
up
the
list
in
terms
of
competing
for
these
federal
dollars.
B
For
these
major
transportation
projects
we
wanted
to
throw
in
the
I-69
river
crossing
and
the
mountain
parkway
extension
as
potential
uses
as
well
should
something
occur
with
the
brent
spence
project.
The
biennial
highway
construction
plan
is
separately
being
introduced.
The
governor
proposes
100
million
dollars
for
electric
vehicle
charging
stations.
B
The
feds
are
going
to
give
us
69
million.
He
wants
to
put
30
plus
million
from
the
general
fund
to
bring
it
up
to
100
million,
to
get
us
prepared
for
electric
vehicles
in
water
and
wastewater.
Another
500
million
dollars,
consisting
of
250
million
for
the
american
rescue
plan
act
and
about
250
million
additional
that's
going
to
come
from
the
federal
infrastructure
bill
in
broadband,
another
200
million
100
of
it
from
the
federal
infrastructure
bill.
B
That's
the
guarantee
that
all
states
have
so
far
additional
funding
net
of
the
american
rescue
plan
act
and
another
44
million
from
the
general
fund,
which,
combined
with
what
was
done
in
the
last
session,
500
million
dollars
and
in
aviation.
A
50
million
dollar
general
fund
grant
program
for
aviation
airports
at
general
aviation
airports
across
kentucky
and
6
million
dollars
in
western
kentucky
for
the
barclay
regional
airport
terminal
construction.
B
In
partnering
with
our
local
governments,
it's
an
opportunity
now
to
do
something
really
different
is
to
return
all
of
the
coast,
severance
dollars
back
to
coal
producing
counties.
B
This
would
increase
funding,
40
million
dollars-
that's
actually
40
million
over
the
biennium
20
million
a
year
compared
to
what
would
the
current
off
the
top
reserves
for
debt
service
50
million
dollars
in
in
two
for
grant
programs
for
county
clerks
that
they
had
requested
to
acquire
election
equipment
and
to
transition
their
recorded
instruments
to
electronic
additional
positions
in
the
property
valuation
administrator's
office
who
have
been
reduced
through
all
the
budget
cuts
in
the
last
several
years,
an
additional
half
a
million
for
the
area
development
districts
expected
to
match
higher
appalachian
regional
commission
grants
in
our
veterans
area.
B
Cemeteries
in
order
to
keep
up
with
the
internment
needs
there
and
a
little
bit
of
funding
for
a
kentucky
medal
of
honor
permanent
memorial
in
valley
forge
pennsylvania
that
every
state
has
and
then,
of
course,
with
the
next
veterans
center
to
be
opened
in
bowling
green,
a
phase-in
of
funding
for
their
operations
in
the
area
of
tourism,
200
million
dollars
to
parks
to
improve,
maintain,
renovate,
replace,
expand
and
preserve.
You
know
one
of
one
of
the
gems
of
kentucky
our
state
parks
facilities.
B
In
fiscal
responsibility,
we've
got
the
largest
balance
we've
ever
had
in
the
rainy
day
fund.
The
budget
reserve
trust
fund.
The
governor
wants
to
add
250
million
dollars
to
that
to
bring
it
up
to
over
almost
1.8
billion,
roughly
12
and
a
half
percent
of
fiscal
23
estimated
revenues.
This
budget
is
more
than
structurally
balanced.
In
the
second
fiscal
year,
our
recurring
revenues
exceeded
occurring
spending
by
five
percent.
B
We
want
to
create
a
new
disaster
relief
and
recovery
fund
and
seat
it
with
100
million
dollars.
Many
states
have
a
separate
fund
that
is
devoted
to
things
like
the
activation
of
the
national
guard.
The
meeting
of
fema
match
requirements
kentucky
we
resort
to
using
our
rainy
day
fund
our
savings
account
for
these
expenses
and
we'd
like
to
create
a
fund
permanently
that
is
financed
and
able
to
to
respond
to
disasters
without
reducing
our
budget
reserve
trust
fund
and
then
mention
deferred
maintenance
as
a
debt
to
be
paid.
B
This
includes
the
amount
we
had
for
asset
preservation
for
universities,
the
state
parks
and
other
state
facilities.
Almost
1.2
billion
dollar
investment
over
the
over
the
biennium
of
all
funds,
a
really
big
step
in
taking
care
of
state
government's
resources
in
the
area
of
doing
what's
right
want
to
re,
restore
funding
to
both
the
commission
on
women
in
the
office
of
minority
empowerment.
We
want
to
restore
recent
budget
cuts
to
the
commission
on
human
rights,
and
I
want
to
make
one
more
more
thing,
one
more
plug
here
in
terms
of
enterprise-wide
systems.
B
We
have
devoted
over
92
million
dollars
to
a
new
revenue
system
in
our
department
of
revenue,
and
it
requires
additional
operating
expenses,
and
so
the
governor's
budget
we're
going
to
devote
that
much
money
to
its
investment.
We
need
to
devote
the
ability
to
maintain
and
operate
that
system.
The
governor's
budget
has
additional
funding
for
yet.
A
Very
well
thanks
john.
We
sincerely
appreciate
you
today,
we're
gonna
start
with
senator
gibbons,
mr
sherman.
Thank
you
and
director
hicks
thanks
for
the
thanks
for
the
overview
couple
of
quick
questions
for
you
and
I'm
confident
you
can
knock
these
out
and
if
not,
you
can
certainly
follow
up
with
an
answer.
A
A
A
B
Yeah,
that's
correct.
Senator
gibbs
was
127
million,
that
was
from
the
coronavirus
capital
projects
fund
and
once
treasury
u.s
treasury
came
out
with
his
guidance.
It
was
those
projects
weren't
going
to
meet
the
eligible
use
test,
and
so
we
had
proposed
to
swap
out
127
million
of
that
arpa
funds
to
the
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
on
this
listing
here.
B
So
it's
a
it's
a
and
and
the
related
we
would
then,
and
we
would
then
subtract
127
million
that
was
originally
appropriated
for
broadband
over
to
the
coronavirus
capital
projects
fund,
because
that
fits
perfectly
with
the
eligible
uses
there.
B
And
so
the
governor
had
proposed
a
individual
piece
of
legislation
to
make
that
swap
and
to
then
to
be
able
to
move
forward,
and
the
reason
for
an
individual
piece
of
legislation
was
to
try
to
get
it
passed
early
so
that
the
school
districts
who
are
awaiting
action
resulting
from
the
treasury
guidance
can
move
forward.
A
Very
good,
and
so
the
plan,
as
you
have
before
us
here
on
the
slide
broadband
is,
is
fully
refunded
through
the
process
and
the
mechanisms
that
you've
explained
right
great
and
with
regard
to
the
eligible
use
test.
Everything
listed
on
the
slide
here
from
the
400
million
at
the
top
to
the
10
million
at
the
bottom.
B
It
has
in
there
it
has
recommends
the
appropriation
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
with
the
condition
that
the
council
on
post-secondary
ed's
president
president
thompson
will
will
be
kind
of
the
gatekeeper
before
the
release
of
those
funds,
and
I
believe
in
in
the
language
in
the
proposed
bill
house
bill
285.
B
There
is
some
specificity
in
there
about
that
condition,
about
a
management
plan
being
prepared
by
the
university
prior
to
you
know
the
release
of
the
dollars
and
with
the
approval
of
the
council,.
A
Thank
you
senator
senator
west.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman.
Senator
gibbons
asked
about
non-recurring
expenses,
I'll
ask
about
recurring
expenses.
Do
you
have
a
total
in
this
budget
in
the
biennium
on
how
much
there
of
an
increase
there
is
in
recurring
expenses.
B
B
B
A
For
argument's
sake,
we'll
say:
1
billion,
obviously,
subjects
change
once
you
delve
into
it.
So
if
we
have
an
increase
in
recurring
expenses
of
1
billion-
and
we
know
this
is
a
good
budget
as
far
as
revenues
increase
moneys
from
the
federal
government,
but
we
also
know
that
the
feds
have
pumped
4.4
to
6
trillion
into
the
economy
over
the
last
couple
years.
A
What
happens
if
we
have
you
know:
inflation,
rising
interest
rates,
pull
back
on
quantitative
easing
for
the
stock
market.
What,
if
that
kind
of
zaps
the
economy,
and
we
have
to
go
back
to
maybe
2018
budget
levels?
A
B
No
thank
you
for
the
question.
First,
I
would
say
that
the
the
stimulus
to
you
know
consumer
spending,
individual
households
has
ceased
months
and
months
ago
the
individual
payments
to
households
went
out.
You
know
in
march
the
additional
unemployment
insurance
you
know
has
ceased.
The
paycheck
protection
programs
have
been
long
expired.
B
Those
things
did
the
job
they
bridged
through
the
pandemic
recession
and
but
but
they
they're
not
having
the
lasting
effects
in
the
last
numerous
number
of
months.
You
know:
kentucky's
wages
and
salaries
have
really
increased
and
as
well
as
consumer
consumption,
because
both
of
our
individual
income
tax
revenues
and
our
sales
tax
revenues
have
really
trended
upwards
significantly,
and
that
is
without
those
those
individual
payments.
You
know
that
have
taken
place
there
that
are
gone
so
as
it
relates
to
inflation.
You
know
there.
There
are
two
issues
there.
B
One
right
inflation
doesn't
reduce
tax
revenues.
You
know,
in
fact
it
is
a.
It
is
an
upside
risk
to
tax
revenues,
not
not
a
but
a
downside
to
to
to
individuals.
Pocketbooks.
Understandably,
if
you
know
the
federal
reserve,
you
know
has
two
tools
that
you
mentioned
right:
interest
rate
increases
and
quantitative
easing,
both
of
which
do
one
thing
right:
they
raise
the
cost
of
money.
They
raise
the
cost
of
capital.
The
one
thing
it
doesn't
do
it
doesn't
do
anything
to
deal
with
the
supply
chain
disruptions.
B
Those
have
a
great
deal
to
do
with
the
inflationary
pressures
that
we're
currently
seeing
the
federal
reserve
can
do
nothing
about
that
right.
It
has
to
be
that
has
to
be
worked
through
with
you
know,
with
a
greater
resolution
to
the
pandemic
being
among
one
of
the
choices
and
solutions
to
that.
So
in
that
case,
going
back
to
some
of
the
premise
of
part
of
your
question.
Senator
west
is
one
of
the
reasons
you
know
the
governor
has,
as
I
mentioned,
a
lot
of
one-time
spending
out
of
recurring
revenues
here.
B
We
hope
to
make
those
investments.
The
governor
has
proposed
an
increase
to
the
largest
rainy
day
fund
that
we've
ever
had
those
two
things
can
be
hedges
against.
You
know
whether
or
not
the
consensus
forecast
groups
estimates
you
know
are
incorrect
or
not,
but
no
national
economic
forecast
right
now
that
we
have
seen
is
predicting.
You
know
a
dip
is
predicting
a
decline
in
gdp
or
personal
income.
Two
major
economic
factors
that
kind
of
push
our
kentucky's
economy
and
therefore
our
tax
revenues.
A
Thank
you
director.
Thank
you,
senator
caslin,
director
hicks.
I
know
we're
limited
on
time,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
a
short
question
that
you
might
be
able
to
help
shed
some
light
on
so
our
broadband
expansion.
We
look
and
we
talk
about
the
300
million
from
last
session
and
then
the
new
money
this
time.
A
It's
my
understanding
talking
to
a
lot
of
the
co-ops
that
they're
kind
of
hung
up
at
the
psc
and
just
wanted
to
see
if
you
could
give
us
a
timeline
or
shed
some
light
on
that
issue,
because
I
know
back
home
in
my
district.
I
live
in
owensboro,
zip
code.
Three
young
kids,
they're
out
of
school
in
our
area
today
from
nti
days
and
most
kids
in
our
area.
Don't
have
high
speed
internet.
So
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
for
us.
B
Yes,
but
I
don't
have
much
detail
on
that
component.
Senator
you
all
passed
house
bill,
320
house,
bill,
382
last
session,
that
permitted
electric
co-ops
to
partner
with
entities
and
the
psc
you
know,
has
something
to
say
about
the
financial
backing
of
those
co-ops
to
internet
service
providers
or
their
affiliates,
and
so
I'm
I
I'm
not
familiar.
I
will
say
that,
with
with
the
progress
on
the
regulations
that
they
were
instituted
in
order
to
execute
those
laws,
I
do
know
that
they're.
B
I
can't
say
this
in
the
first
round
of
the
broadband
application
process,
there
are
electric
co-ops
who
are
among
the
applicants,
so
I
know
that
at
least
there
are
some
who,
where
that
was
not
a
barrier
to
to
the
application
for
the
for
the
dollars.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
director
hicks
appreciate
your
work
on
the
budget.
My
question
is
specific
to
the
the
proposal
for
universal
pre-k
for
four-year-olds
throughout
the
commonwealth.
This
is
kind
of
a
different
approach
from
what
has
commonly
been
spoken
about
over
the
past
several
years.
C
In
that
we
use
the
all
of
the
above
approach
with
the
public
and
private
sector
providing
these
services,
and
my
question
is:
what
does
this
budget
do
to
address
the
infrastructure
that
will
be
needed
to
add
these
additional
students
to
schools
across
the
commonwealth
additional
staff
and
was
the
impact
that
this
will
have
on
the
private
sector.
Child
care
facilities?
Was
that
considered
when
making
this
decision
and
that
might
be
outside
of
your
school?
But
I'll,
ask
the
question:
anyways.
B
Certainly
I'll
I'll
give
you
what
I
do
know
about.
Senator
carol,
I
mean
172
million,
you
know
was
the
department's
estimate
of
of
funding.
You
know
about
34
000
four-year-olds,
who
weren't
currently
receiving
public
preschool,
and
so
so
in
those
in
those
that's
those
are
the
resources
that
are
can
be
brought
to
bear
by
by
school
districts
to
deal
with
that
capacity.
B
I
guess
just
as
the
time
in
which
we
went
to
full
day
kindergarten.
It
was
a.
It
is
a
transition
period
for
child
care
providers.
I
will
say
that,
through
the
various
federal
pandemic
relief
funds,
there's
still
about
700
million
dollars
that
the
cabinet
for
health
and
family
services
is
administering
and
distributing
to
child
care
providers.
A
C
C
You
know
it's
great
that
our
economy
is
is
booming
and
I
think,
what's
left
off
of
this
list,
and
I
don't
mean
this
is
a
criticism.
It's
just
for
some.
Some
thought
was
any
thought
giving
to
reducing
the
tax
burden
for
the
average
citizen
in
kentucky,
because,
even
though
wages
are
going
up,
taxes
are
going
up
inflation's
going
up
and
it
would
look
like
if
we
could
do
that
that
it
would
increase
consumer
spending
because
you're
immediately
putting
money
back
in
the
average
kentuckian's
pocket,
and
it
would
seem
to
be
a
good
economic
strategy.
B
Also,
thank
you
senator
merritt,
I
would
say
you
know
taxes.
Taxes
were
just
cut
recently
right,
kentucky
flattened
its
its
individual
income
tax
just
a
few
years
ago,
as
well
as
flattened
its
corporation
income
tax,
so
that
so
a
tax
cut
was
given
the
tax
cut.
Incidence
of
that
tax
cut
was
primarily
to
those
who
are
more
well
off.
In
some
cases,
the
the
lower
tax
rates
for
lower
incomes
are
raised
to
a
five
percent.
B
So
so
so
I
would
say,
kentucky
has
done
that
recently
and
so
in
this
case,
the
other
thing
I
would
I
would
add,
is
we're
we're
doing
we're
catching
up
from
a
significant
retrenchment
and
austere
budgets
that
we've
had,
where
we've
hardly
raised
the
base
per
pupil
for
k-12
education.
B
So
we're
taking
this
opportunity,
you
know
to
to
make
these
targeted
investments,
investments
that
perhaps
would
may
have
otherwise
been
made,
had
had
we
not
contended
with
the
great
recession
and
it's
in
its
lengthier
recovery
than
almost
any
recession
in
our
lifetime.
So
yes,
there
was
consideration
given
to
you
know
how
you
deploy
additional
resources,
whether
it's
spending
or
whether
it's
its
reduction
in
in
the
revenue
side.
But
in
this
case
the
governor
chose.
B
A
Very
well,
thank
you.
Senator
nemas.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
director
hicks.
I
have
a
question
on
the
student
loan
forgiveness.
Is
there
any
stipulation
that
they
reside
in
kentucky
that
they
work
in
kentucky
or
that
they
went
to
school
in
kentucky
and
was
there
any
other
consideration
for
any
other
medical
occupations.
B
Yes,
the
conditions
are
that
they
must.
They
must.
A
nurse
must
work
in
in
kentucky,
a
teacher
must
work
in
a
public
school
in
kentucky.
A
social
worker
must
work
in
kentucky.
So
definitely
it's
a
year
for
year
award
for
the
year
of
employment
in
those
positions
and-
and
the
governor's
emphasis
right
now
was,
you
know,
to
try
to
deal
with
the
nursing
situation,
work
closely
with
the
kentucky
nurses
association
with
the
board
of
nursing
on
their
ideas.
So
so
he
wanted
to
target.
You
know
his
efforts.
B
A
A
I
just
have
two
things
number
one
on
student
forgiveness
and
then
the
budget
for
indigent
defense
or
the
public
defenders,
as
I
look
at
it
on
a
it's
sort
of
inadequate
compared
to
the
uptick
in
the
in
the
prosecutorial
budget
and
the
pandemic
has
ex
has
exaggerated,
I
guess
the
need
for
the
public
defenders,
legal
aid
and
those
indigent
defense,
as
I
predicted
on
the
floor
when
this
thing
started
a
couple
years
ago.
A
So
I'd
like
to
see
more
emphasis
given
to
to
that
component,
along
with
the
potential
student
loan
forgiveness
for
those
men
and
women
who
are
are
doing
that
at
an
inadequate
level
of
salary
and
funding,
and
then
secondly,
the
only
thing
that
about
the
infrastructure
on
electric
vehicles,
notwithstanding
our
appreciation
of
ford
and
their
investment
in
kentucky
it,
I'm
con
I'd
like
to
be
briefed,
I
guess,
on
the
location
of
these
stations,
how
they
mesh
with
existing
business
and
infrastructure
and
and
how
we're
gonna
do
that
on
on
several
levels
in
application.
A
You
know
I'm
just
a
diesel
kind
of
girl
with
a
refinery
in
my
district,
but
I
think
some
of
this
may
be
premature
on
on
a
state
vehicle
fleet
and
all
that
with
our
grid
capacity
and
some
of
the
concerns
that
we're
seeing
and
that's
probably
the
old
energy
major
in
me,
but
on
our
grid
capability
and
other
things.
So
I'd
like
just
to
talk
to
somebody
sometime
about
that
component
of
the
budget
from
the
energy
standpoint,
our
grid
capacity
and
how
that
meshes
in
as
well.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
director
hicks.
We
we
continue
to
talk
about
our
booming
economy
and
everything
associated
with
that
and,
as
senator
meredith
stated,
obviously
trillions
of
dollars
infused
into
our
economy
nationwide.
So
I
it's
hard
to
really
argue
that
it
is
an
accurate
portrayal
of
where
our
economy
actually
is
right.
Now
the
budget
talks
about
expanding
medicaid
and
it's
no
no
secret,
that
a
third
of
our
population
is
on
medicaid
at
this
point
and
we
are
still
ranked
49th
in
the
country
on
workforce
participation.
C
What
does
this
budget
do
to
address?
Workforce
participation
and
and
as
we
are
attracting
business
and
industry-
and
we
tout
that
yet
our
workforce
participation
numbers
remain
abysmal?
What
does
the
budget
do
to
address
that.
B
Thanks
senator
carol,
I
think
I'm
going
to
talk
to
universal
preschool,
that
has
that
has
been
a
magnet
to
enable
mothers
to
become
working
mothers,
the
workforce.
You
know
the
additional
resources
going
into
post-secondary
education
as
well,
the
the
the
linking
of
the
workforce
initiative
to
20
that
20
million
dollar
pot
of
money
to
relate
to
employers
who
are
going
to
commit
to
hiring
their
their
graduates.
B
You
know
the
labor,
you
know
the
long-standing
evidence
for
preschool
says
that
their
labor
productivity,
as
they
grow
up
as
adults,
is
improved
over
those
who
didn't
get
it.
So
that's
a
long-term
investment,
but
one
that's
very
important
to
our
children
and
our
grandchildren
and
I'd
say
the
the
the
the
you
know
the
on
the
on
the
that's
on
the
supply
of
workforce.
B
Now,
one
of
the
things
you
know
that
all
states
are
contending
with
you
know:
kentucky's
got
a
low
workforce
participation
rate
for
many
reasons,
one
of
which
is
high
level
disability.
So
health
care
you
know
is
is
an
important
component
of
that
particularly
health
care
at
early
ages,
and
so
medicaid
really,
you
know,
incorporates
you
know,
health
care
for
in
the
hands
program
and
other
things
that
assist
pregnant
mothers
and
new
mothers
and
their
children
and
all
those
things
have
to
weave
together.
B
You
know
the
the
you
know
the
the
nation
has
just
endured,
what
they
call
the
great
resignation,
people
who
have
quit
the
labor
force.
You
know
of
their
own
volition,
right,
they
weren't
fired
they.
They
quit
hard
to.
You
know
there
so
there's
some
there's
some
changing
in
culture,
that's
happening
out
there.
We
will
all
kind
of
struggle
with
how
to
how
to
attract
back.
You
know
a
workforce
that
is
both.
You
know,
trained
and
educated.
A
Thank
you
senator
director,
we
got
greg
janice
mike.
Thank
you
guys,
all
for
being
with
us
today.
We
sincerely
appreciate
your
work
and
your
diligence
in
this.
As
we
know,
these
budget
sessions
are
marathons
and
not
sprints,
and
look
forward
to
continuing
with
you
guys
to
the
committee.
Thanks
for
excellent
questions
today
and
your
attention
to
this
and
I'm
sure
there'll
be
more
to
come.