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A
Welcome
everyone
to
the
third
house
education
meeting.
If
you
will,
please
silence
your
phones
in
order
to
avoid
interruptions
and
also
before
we
really
begin.
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to.
We
have
91
teams
across
the
commonwealth
this
week
competing
in
the
cheer
competition
in
orlando
florida
disney.
This
is
a
great
honor.
You
have
to
be
invited
and
you
have
to
qualify.
So
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
that
group
and
wish
them
safe,
travels
and
flawless
routines.
A
It's
amazing
the
work
that
goes
into
these
routines
and
the
discipline
and
work
ethic
and
dedication,
so
I
just
wanted
to
wish
them
well
and
and
a
good
trip
down
into
disney
this
week.
Also
remote
members
can
be
considered
present
and
vote
on
bills
if
they
are
participating
in
their
annex
office.
If
you
are
participating
remotely,
but
not
from
your
nx
office,
then
you
can
participate
in
discussion,
but
you
will
not
be
able
to
vote
when
you
join
the
meeting
remotely.
Your
microphone
will
be
muted,
automatically
and
mute.
A
C
D
A
A
We're
pleased
to
have
hewitt
lestenberry,
the
technical
student
association
president
and
the
student
bar
and
a
student
at
barron
county
high
school
here
with
us
today.
If
you
would
please
come
to
the
table,
if
you
have
any
special
guests
and
introduce
yourself
for
the
record,
and
you
may
proceed.
J
Cute
lesson:
barry
there
we
go
in
october
of
1912,
a
man
named
carl
perkins
was
born
to
the
sleepy
town
of
hydeman,
kentucky
just
west
of
pikeville.
His
curious
nature
and
thirst
for
knowledge
made
him
a
fantastic
student
inspiring
him
to
become
a
teacher
in
knock
county
for
a
school
of
just
90
students.
J
If
you
were
to
ask
me
why
I
joined
tsa
three
years
ago
today,
I
wouldn't
tell
you
to
get
a
jump
start
on
a
potential
career
pathway.
I'd
say
because
I
thought
my
teacher
mr
dakin
was
funny
and
passionate.
It
wasn't
a
burning
internal
compulsion
to
get
involved
with
engineering.
In
fact,
I
didn't
really
know
what
engineering
was.
It
was
simply
due
to
my
respect
and
admiration
for
a
teacher.
J
J
Thanks
to
the
experiences
cte
has
given
me,
I've
been
meddled
with
various
leadership
roles
from
the
academic
team
to
the
tennis
courts.
Such
positions
undoubtedly
helped
me
secure
a
slot
into
two
lane.
University's
honors
program,
along
with
a
notable
academic
scholarship
that
slightly
offsets
absurdly
inflated
tuition
costs
upon
my
acceptance,
it
finally
dawned
on
me
that
all
of
this
was
worth
it.
My
efforts
have
paid
off
and
I
finally
found
my
next
step.
All
that
being
said,
college
is
not
for
everyone
and
that's
100.
Okay,
for
many
traditional
schooling
is
wildly
unappealing.
J
J
Fortunately,
the
value
of
obtaining
a
trade
is
not
overlooked
in
my
county,
our
teachers,
unlike
many,
are
quick
to
support
such
admiral
occupations
leading
plenty
of
students
to
pursue
once
stigmatized
professions,
students
from
barron
glasgow
and
medcap
high
schools
all
have
the
phenomenal
opportunity
to
attend.
Barron
county
area
technology
center,
which
offers
hands-on
training
to
become
an
electrician
mechanic
or
carpenter
among
many
other
things,
certification
and
apprenticeship
opportunities
in
the
driven
trade
directly
translate
to
attractive
high-demand
careers
within
our
community.
J
Upon
a
graduation,
this
often
motivates
students
to
attend
school
more
frequently
and
be
more
engaged,
thus
improving
core
academic
skills.
It's
an
obvious
win-win
as
kentuckians.
It's
our
responsibility
to
honor
and
uphold
the
legacy
of
carl
perkins.
We
must
continue
to
destigmatize
trade.
Pursuing
interest
shouldn't
be
taboo,
as
for
some
education
and
trade
can
be
a
gateway
to
newfound
generational
success.
J
A
J
J
A
We
have
other
meetings
that
are
during
this
time,
so
we'll
people
will
be
having
to
go
back
and
forth
so
to
accommodate
those
we're
going
to
go
a
little
out
of
order
house
bill.
397,
an
act
relating
to
disaster
days
for
schools,
impacted
by
western
kentucky
tornadoes
and
declaring
an
emergency
will
be
our
first
bill.
Representative
dawson.
If
you
will
please
to
the
table,
if
you
have
any
guests
joining
you,
if
all
of
you
will
please
introduce
yourself
for
the
record,
and
you
may
proceed.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
it
is
with
no
great
joy
that
I'm
presenting
this
legislation
this
morning.
F
If
we
lived
in
a
perfect
world,
I
would
not
be
having
to
present
this,
but
with
that
being
said,
it
must
be
done.
I'm
joined
by
second
district
representative,
richard
heath
and
what
I
am
presenting
today
is
house
bill
397,
which
will
allow
up
to
15
additional
disaster
days
for
our
schools
that
were
impacted
by
the
tornadoes
of
december
10th
and
december
11th.
F
In
that
also
included
in
that
legislation
it
will
ensure
that
certified
and
non-certified
employees
will.
This
will
guarantee
that
they
have
fulfilled
their
contract
at
the
end
of
the
year.
The
goal
with
this
is
to
ensure
that
our
students
are
able
to
move
along.
That's
our
st
teachers,
our
personnel,
also
without
having
to
continue
into
the
summer
with
additional
days.
F
In
saying
that,
I
know
there
have
been
some
I've
had
some
questions
asked
on
this
concerning
the
meeting
the
requirement
of
the
1062
hours
for
our
students,
the
number
of
schools
that
would
have
be
able
to
access
these
additional
days.
There
are
11
counties,
including
two
independent
school
districts,
but
of
those
only
three
will
top
10
days
that
will
be
mayfield,
independent
dawson
springs,
independent
and
one
school
in
christian
county
pembroke
elementary.
These
were
the
schools
that
were
the
areas
most
heavily
devastated
by
the
tornadoes
in
conversations
I've
had
with
my
superintendents.
F
Some
of
these
school
districts
will
actually
be
having
summer
school
for
any
of
the
students
that
are
being
behind,
but
there
may
be
some
that
want
in
the
words
of
one
of
my
superintendents
lenny
whalen
there
from
dalston
springs,
he
stated
to
me:
we
have
so
many
staff
and
students
who
have
lost
everything
and
are
in
the
process
of
trying
to
get
their
lives
back
in
order.
Those
individuals
are
mentally
emotionally
and
physically,
worn
out
by
the
toll.
The
tornadoes
have
taken
on
them.
F
By
doing
this
now,
this
will
mean
that
the
school
districts
which
already
have
added
hours
on
currently
this
will
just
excuse
them
and
allow
them
to
get
back
to
normal.
But
by
getting
back
to
normal,
I
must
share
with
you
those
school
personnel,
the
students
when
they
go
home,
they're
still
working,
trying
to
repair
and
clean
up
debris
for
all
of
you.
If
you
will
look
at
my
hands
right
here,
they're
scarred
over
the
weekend,
I
was
working,
removing
fencing.
F
If
I
were
at
home
today,
I
would
be
working
in
my
shop
and
at
the
end
of
that
day
I
would
go
home
and
until
dark,
I
would
be
continuing
working
on
cleaning
up
and
trying
to
straighten
up
the
damage
there
from
the
tornado.
This
would
just
allow
all
of
those
individuals,
our
students
and
our
school
personnel,
as
I
said,
to
get
back
to
a
semblance
of
normalcy
and
be
able
to
do
what
they're
needing
to
do
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
We'd
be
glad
to
thank
you
for
having
us
today.
I
wanted
to
pass
on
some
information
from
the
superintendent
of
the
mayfield
independent
schools.
He
was
concerned
that
if,
if
we
forgive
the
days,
it
will
not
include
the
hours,
so
I
reached
out
to
staff
and
asked
that
question,
and
this
is
the
response
I
I
got
there.
They
would
be
viewed
when
we're
talking
about
the
hours.
The
hours
would
be
viewed
as
disaster
days
when
a
disaster
day
is
granted
normally
by
the
commissioner.
I
The
day
and
hours
that
would
have
been
accrued
are
counted
in
the
calendar.
So
you
won't
see
on
the
report
that
the
school
district
is
short
on
the
hun
1062
hours
because
it
will
be
in
the
total.
So,
basically,
the
the
not
only
the
days
are
forgiven,
but
the
hours
are
forgiven
and
I
wanted
to
share
a
couple
of
stories.
I
saw
firsthand
the
superintendents
of
the
schools
at
the
schools
working
may
feel.
I
For
example,
they
were
there
on
sunday,
along
with
teachers
and
volunteers
and
students
taking
in
donations
and
then
sorting
them
out
and
redistributing
those,
and
that
wasn't
an
isolated
situation
that
that
went
on
for
a
couple
of
weeks
and
and
then
on
friday
night,
the
night
the
storm
came
through.
I
was
at
the
mayfield
city
hall,
the
fire
department
right
behind
city
hall.
It
was
the
only
building
that
had
lights
on,
had
a
generator
running
and
and
people
were
coming
to
the
to
the
building.
I
The
superintendent
of
graves
county
school
system,
along
with
some
football
coaches
and
football
players
were
bringing
in
cases
of
water
to
to
be
stationed
there
and
redistributed.
So
you
know,
I
saw
this
activity
in
my
mind.
The
the
teachers
and
the
staff
have
already
worked
these
hours.
They've
already,
you
know,
put
their
time
in
and
then
the
I
feel
certain
that
the
students
can
gain
more
education
during
the
time
they
were
helping
with
the
recovery
and
donation
and
and
volunteering
than
they
would
have
if
they'd
have
been
in
the
classroom.
F
I
would
like
to
add
to
that.
I
saw
the
very
same
thing
personally
there
from
the
staff
from
pembroke
elementary
where
my
granddaughter
attends.
I
saw
those
individuals
in
my
front
yard,
picking
up
debris.
I
saw
students
there
also.
I
know
I
mentioned
on
the
floor.
I
had
one
lady
from
oak
grove,
a
single
mother
who
had
her
son
with
her,
and
I
asked
her
why?
What?
What
is?
F
C
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
this.
First
of
all,
I
would
never
question
how
much
teachers
work
I
just
I
don't.
Even
that
doesn't
even
come
to
my
mind,
because
I
know
they're
working
all
the
time.
My
only
my
only
question
is:
are
we
getting
food?
I
worry
about
free
and
reduced
kids.
Kids,
who
are
not
maybe
getting
the
counseling
they
need.
I
Yes,
and
and
during
when
school
was
closed,
the
staff
was
in
the
kitchen
preparing
meals
and,
as
the
the
people
from
the
surrounding
school
came
in
to
get
supplies,
they
could
also
pick
up
food
they're
using
some
of
the
same
tactics
that
they
use
when
we
were
doing
virtual
school.
You
know
the
schools,
buses
went
around
delivered
meals
and
backpacks
of
with
food
in
them
to
the
kids.
They
know
where
these
individuals
are
and
what
their
needs
are
and
they
are
reaching
out
to
them.
I
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
those
houses
are
gone
now
and
the
students
are
gone
too
they're
being
some
of
them
are
living
as
far
as
way
as
trick
county
in
in
the
parks
and
and
they're
being
bus
back
to
mayfield
and
graves
county
daily
and
house
bill
5
is
helping
with
that
transportation
cost,
but
if
they're
able
to
get
to
a
school,
obviously
they're
able
to
get
to
to
food
and
resources
and
supplies.
F
I'm
seeing
the
same
representative
banno
there
from
my
conversations
with
superintendent,
whalen
and
dawson
springs,
and
also
there
within
pembroke
elementary,
that
was
the
school
in
christian
county
that
the
roof
was
taken
completely
off
and
those
students
were
off
for
10
days
waiting
for
the
roof
to
be
repaired.
I
know
personally
from
our
experience
at
our
house
with
the
tornado
and
then
my
visiting
pembroke
elementary
after
school
had
they
had
resumed
going
to
school
and
conversations
I
had
with
their
principal
and
assistant
principal.
They
are
working
with
the
children.
F
I
know
my
granddaughter
has
mentioned
to
me
the
conversation
with
her
friends.
They
ask
about
tiles
that
are
still
not
in
the
ceiling
things
like
that.
So,
yes,
they
are
getting
the
opportunity
where
they're
speaking
with
individuals
and
we're
working
with
them
at
home.
I
know
that's
the
guy,
my
wife
and
I
have
done
and
aubry's
mom
and
dad
as
well.
F
We
have
been
working
with
them
to
make
sure
that
when
they
ask
questions
about
the
storm
and
things
that
go,
you
know
things
that
they
are
feeling
we
have
conversations
with
them
as
well
and
church.
K
Representative
scott,
thank
you.
Chairwoman
just
wanted
to
appreciate
you,
representative,
dawson,
you
representative
heath,
for
bringing
this
very
important
piece
of
legislation
forward.
I
am
curious
to
know,
because
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
these
climate
disasters
if
y'all
talked
about
this
being
a
standing
policy
period
just
in
general,
if
the
president
were
to
declare
a
major
disaster
rather
than
only
being
in
response
to
the
december
disaster,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
representative
heath.
Yes,.
I
My
understanding
is
when
we
started
the
bill
draft
on
this,
that
there
were
other
disasters
across
the
state.
Previous
to
this,
that
that
went
through
the
same
thing.
Those
days
were
forgiven,
so
there's
a
precedent
that's
been
set.
This
is
we're
not
planning
new
ground
here
this.
This
is
kind
of
like
a
it's
our
turn
for
some
disaster
relief.
It's
happened
in
other
parts
of
the
states
through
the
years
correct.
F
And
we
hope
that
I
hope
that
I
never
have
to
be
a
part
of
another
piece
of
legislation
like
this,
but
we
all
know.
As
I
said,
we
don't
live
in
a
perfect
world.
We
go
by
what
the
lord
gives
us,
and
so,
if
we
see
another
disaster,
then
we
would
have
to
work
toward
that
as
well.
If.
K
K
Second,
if
I
may
one
more,
please
thank
you,
chairwoman,
and
I
appreciate
both
of
your
responses
and
my
concern
is,
if
we're
I'm
not
in
session,
if
something
were
to
happen
at
the
end
of
the
school
year,
just
concerned
that
we
don't
already
have
a
standing
policy
in
place
that
says
in
general,
if
the
president
of
the
united
states
were
to
declare
a
major
disaster
emergency
that
we
are
prepared
with
legislation
already
in
place
to
respond
to
that.
So
just
something
for
us
to
think
about
in
the.
A
G
Thank
you
ma'am,
chair
representative,
dawson,
representative
heath.
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
I
can't
imagine
what
you
all
have
gone
through
and
your
communities
have
gone
through
in
the
last
few
weeks
after
hurricane
katrina,
I
had
the
opportunity
twice
to
go
to
that
area
and
help
with
storm
cleanup.
G
So
I
imagine
what
I
saw
in
the
aftermath
of
that
hurricane
is
very
similar
to
what
you're,
seeing
here
and
and
people
are
in
survival
mode
right
now
so
understand
why
you're,
bringing
this
legislation
and
rippers
that
you
and
I
are
concerned,
I'm
just
concerned
about
learning
loss
here
and
we
with
covet
the
last
two
years.
We
were
well
aware
of
the
learning
loss.
G
F
F
As
I
mentioned
those
students
whenever
they
return
home
in
the
afternoon,
the
school
personnel
they
like
myself
are
continuing
to
work
on
their
homes,
just
trying
to
get
their
lives
back
to
a
semblance
of
normalcy
that
will
be
going
on
here.
All
summer
long.
I've
had
the
conversation
there
at
my
house,
we'll
be
working
late
into
the
summer,
just
trying
to
get
our
property
to
look
something
similar
to
what
it
did
a
year
ago,
and
it
will
never
be
that
way,
but
they're
just
trying
to
correct
their
lives.
F
Many
I
know
I'm
having
conversations
with
people
from
dallas
springs
that
are
living
in
shelters
still
so,
like
I
said,
let's
just
give
them
the
the
person,
the
school
staff,
the
students
a
little
reprieve
on
this,
and
let
them
kind
of
move
back
to
our
normal
life.
G
Man,
I'm
sure
if
I
could
just
continue
for
brief
comment,
and
I
certainly
appreciate
what
you're
saying
there.
I
understand
that
I
think
it's
imperative,
oh
as
as
school
starts
back
in
the
fall
as
hopefully
there's
more
a
sense
of
normalcy.
Like
you
say
it's
going
to
be
years
before
we
fully
get
some
of
these
buildings
rebuilt
people
get
back
in
their
homes,
but
it's
going
to
be
imperative
on
the
districts
in
that
community
to
do
everything
they
can
to
help
students
to
provide
interventions
to
provide
the
extra
resources.
G
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
comment
that
I
saw
this
firsthand
in
bremen
and
in
arlington
elementary
in
the
hopkins
county,
the
barnsley
area
that
got
affected
in
bremen
that
the
schools
were
the
hubs
and
the
the
teachers
and
the
staff
and
everybody
just
pitched
in
it
was.
It
was
amazing.
So
thank
you
for
just
bringing
this
forward.
L
C
H
E
G
B
Representative
lewis,
yes,
representative,
massey,
representative
mccool,
yes,
representative,
miller,
representative
gibbons-prenty,
yes,
representative,
rayburn,
yes,
representative
riley,
it
would
be
a
year
off
representative
scott,
yes,
representative,
timoney,
yes,
representative,
tipton,.
H
I
A
House,
bill
397
passes
with
the
expression
of
opinion
that
the
same
should
pass,
and
I
think
we
need
to
remind
everyone
to
please
keep
this
area
in
your
prayers.
I
know
that
the
devastation
and
the
displacement
is
tough
on
kids,
and
so
we
appreciate
you
bringing
this
forward.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
N
Chairwoman,
huff
and
members
of
the
committee,
I
sincerely
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
bring
this
bill
before
you,
I'm
state
representative,
nancy,
tate
and
I
represent
district
27,
which
is
made
in
hardin
counties.
Unfortunately,
the
founders
of
aaron's
law,
which
is
house
bill
270,
is
not
able
to
participate
with
us
this
morning,
but
I
have
some
information
that
I'd
like
to
share
from
her.
You
know
one
of
the
things
in
2021,
the
u.s
department
of
health
and
human
services.
N
Child
bureau
of
child
maltreatment
reported
that
for
the
third
year
in
a
row,
kentucky
has
the
highest
child
abuse
cases
in
the
country.
So,
unfortunately
we
have
a
very
serious
situation
that
we
need
to
deal
with,
and
I
believe
that
communication
and
education
is
the
key
for
addressing
this
problem.
There's
no
silver
bullet.
That's
going
to
address
it,
but
with
things
like
aaron's
law,
I
believe
that
we
can
start
tackling
this
issue.
N
One
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
do
is
that
aaron
sent
me
a
letter
that
I'd
like
to
read
to
you
on
it's
kind
of
large,
but
you
know
if
she
was
here.
She
would
be
able
to
represent
this
so
much
better
than
I
can,
but
her
name
is.
My
name
is
aaron
merrell
and
I'm
a
35
year
old
mother
to
three
small
girls
from
illinois.
N
People's
magazine
named
me,
one
of
15
women
changing
the
world
and
glamour
magazine
named
me,
woman
of
the
year
for
my
work
to
protect
children
across
america.
I'm
the
founder
of
aaron's
law,
a
law
that
requires
personal
body
safety
safety
to
be
taught
in
public
schools
to
children
once
a
year.
Your
state
is
one
of
13
that
has
not
passed
it.
So
it's
been
passed
in
20.
N
Excuse
me
37
states
at
this
time,
so
I
testified
back
in
2014
on
aaron's
law
in
kentucky
and
sadly
it
never
got
out
of
committee,
so
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
make
some
more
traction.
This
year,
as
a
child,
I
have
taught
yearly
in,
I
was
taught
yearly
in
school,
tornado,
drills,
bus,
drills,
fire,
drills
stained.
Stranger
danger:
dare
bully
intervention
internet
safety
looking
both
ways
when
you
cross
the
street,
I
knew
not
to
go
looking
for
the
lost
puppy.
N
I
knew
where
the
a
I
knew
there
were
eight
ways
on
how
to
get
away
until
today
they
never
came
to
my
childhood
on
my
very
first
overnight
at
my
best
friend's
house,
my
uncle
sexually
or
her
uncle
sexually
abused
me
when
he
continued
to
molest
me
and
eventually
raped
me
at
seven
years
old
and
as
I
kept
it
a
secret,
this
man
threatened
me
that
he
would
come
get
me
if
I
told
anyone
from
ages
eight
six
to
eight,
I
continued
to
be
molested
and
raped
by
him.
N
My
saving
grace
came
at
eight
and
a
half.
When
I
learned,
we
were
moving
only
to
find
out
that
I
was
getting
that
much
closer
to
my
next
perpetrator
and
this
time,
a
family
member
from
11
to
13
years
old,
my
older
teenage
cousin
molested
me
and
he
threatened
to
tell
everyone
that
this
was
our
secret
and
that
no
one
would
believe
me
and
I
would
destroy
my
family
if
I
towed
the
only
message
that
I
was
getting
as
a
child
was
that
from
the
men
hurting
me
and
that
was
to
say
silent.
N
Had
I
been
taught
to
speak
up
and
not
to
keep
this
secret
and
what
a
safe
touch
and
unsafe
touch
is
a
safe
secret
and
an
unsafe
secret.
I
would
have
been
spoken.
I
would
have
spoken
up
from
the
start
instead
of
being
abused
for
years
as
a
child.
It
is
a
lesson
that
we
all
fail
to
teach
our
children
across
the
world
and
I
have
made
it
my
mission
for
every
child
to
be
empowered
with
the
voice
that
I
never
had
as
a
child.
N
I
broke
my
silence
after
my
sister
came
to
me
and
told
me
that
our
cousin
was
sexually
abusing
her
too.
Had
someone
come
in
and
taught
us
in
school
not
to
keep
this
a
secret,
it
would
have
saved
us
years
of
abuse.
Our
children
are
abused
for
years
and
don't
come
forward
until
they
are
adults,
because
they
are
educated
only
to
stay
silent
and
to
be
afraid-
and
it
is
their
fault.
N
N
We
put
so
much
emphasis
on
stranger
danger
with
children
when
93
percent
of
the
time
children
are
abused
by
someone
that
they
know
and
trust
only
seven
percent
of
the
time
is
it
strangers
that
we
worry
so
much
about.
There
are
42
million
survivors
of
sexual
abuse
living
in
america
right
now.
3
million
of
those
are
children
and
that
could
fill
46
national
football
stadiums
get
that
image
into
your
mind.
N
For
a
moment,
these
children
are
sitting
in
our
classrooms
every
day,
living
in
silence
as
their
innocence
is
being
killed
and
the
psychological
impact
is
having
it
is
having
on
them
as
they
live
in
this
horror,
this
law
is
common
sense
and
I'm
asking
for
an
hour
out
of
the
school
year
to
give
children
the
voice
that
that
she
never
had
with
that
voice.
We
are
allowing
the
our
children
to
be
silenced
and
to
kill
their
innocence.
N
It
is
time
that
we
start
fighting
the
war
going
on
in
our
own
backyards,
by
empowering
children
with
their
voices
and
to
put
sexual
offenders
out
of
business,
and
I'm
on
a
mission
to
get
this
passed
in
all
50
states,
and
I
will
not
stop
until
I
do
so.
I
again,
I
appreciate
miss
erin
and
I
apologize
that
she
wasn't
here
to
help
us
with
this.
N
But
you
know
again,
just
one
other
statistic
is
that
pr,
according
to
the
cdc,
approximately
one
in
five
girls
and
one
in
13
boys
experience
child
sexual
abuse
at
some
points
in
their
childhood
and
again
93
of
the
abuse
is
by
someone
in
their
family
or
someone
that
they
know
and
that
the
total
lifetime
economic
burden
of
child
sexual
abuse
in
the
united
states
in
2015
was
estimated
to
be
at
least
9.3
billion
dollars.
N
So
again,
this
is
to
me
this
is
common
sense
language
that
I
think
that
we
can
surround
ourselves
with
and
support.
So,
if
they're
at
this
point
miss
chair
lady,
at
this
point
I
would
accept
any
questions.
N
D
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill
representative
tate
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
ask
a
question
when
I
read
this
bill.
Quite
frankly,
I
was
surprised
that
this
hadn't
already
been
passed
in
kentucky.
I'm
the
executive
director
of
a
christian
nonprofit
and
one
of
the
things
we
do
is
we
operate
two
homeless
shelters
for
women
and
children,
most
of
whom
have
been
abused.
D
D
N
Yeah.
Thank
you.
That's
a
very
excellent
question.
Yes,
there
is
if
we,
when
I
go
to
aaronslaw.org,
there's
approximately
15
pieces
of
legislation.
Excuse
me
types
of
curriculum,
that's
recommended
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I've
looked
at
several
of
those
to
me
they're
very
inexpensive,
especially
when
we
take
into
consideration
the
9.3
billion
dollars
that
it's
estimated
to
address
with
you
know
to
deal
with
this
problem
after
it
happens,.
D
And
is
this
anticipated
to
be
a
one-time
training
or
is
it
ongoing
or
how
is
that
expected
to
occur?.
C
When
you're
working
and
and
thank
you,
you
representative
decker
and
got
answers
to
most
of
my
questions,
I'm
glad
it's
funded.
That
makes
me
feel
good
yes,
and
is
there
any
way
that
you
could
consider
clarifying
teacher
to
counselor
or
faculty?
It
could
be
the
principal
in
the
building
that
wants
to
do
the
training
too.
So
just
I
just
would
like
you
to
consider
that.
Thank.
D
Thank
you,
representative
tate.
Could
you
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
see
this
bill
have
would
be
to
define
emotional
and
physical
abuse?
Can
you
define
that
for
me,
as
as
it
would
come
to
the
curriculum.
N
So
wait
just
a
second.
There
is
there's
very
specific
language,
that's
actually
in
statute
right
now,
and
so
with
that
it
will
refer
to
that
as
well.
I
think
that
there's
a
there's
a
krs
and
the
suggestion
is
that
it
referred
to
that,
so
it
is
it
needs
to
we.
I
need
to
elaborate
on
krs
156.095.
N
And
that,
and
also
to
make
sure
that
it
includes
that
the
kde
maintained
list
of
approved,
comprehensive
evidence,
informed
curriculum
that
should
or
shall
be
trauma
informed
and
include
a
minimum
information
on
healthy
relationships.
So
I'll
continue
to
work
on
that.
D
N
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
raising
this
issue.
I
I
in
my
training
to
become
a
psychologist.
I
worked
with
child
sexual
abuse
victims.
My
youngest
clients
were
as
young
as
three
years
old
and
I
know
how
devastating
this
is
on
whole
generations
of
people,
and
so
this
is
so
important
that
we
bring
this.
M
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
you
talk
about
that
you're
going
to
be
fleshing
this
out,
some
more
because
one
of
the
questions
I
have,
I
don't
see
any
requirement
in
here
for
the
curriculum
to
be
evidence-based
or
to
be
really
focused
on
primary
prevention
and-
and
you
brought
up
stranger
danger-
I
mean
the
way
this
is
written.
A
school
could
adopt
stranger
danger,
which
we
know
is
not
not
the
same.
M
A
O
E
G
B
I
I
I
M
A
A
Our
final
bill
of
the
day
will
be
house
bill,
63
an
act
relating
to
school
resource
officers.
If
representative
roger
would
come
to
the
table
and
any
guests
that
you
may
have
have
them
introduce
themselves
and
before
we
begin
a
representative
riley
would
like
to
speak
to
hewitt
just
for
a
moment
so
well,
if
you
will,
let's
support
him
that
opportunity
representative
reilly.
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
I'd
just
like
to
congratulate
hewitt
on
being
there
today.
I'm
sorry
he's
one
of
my
constituents.
I've
known
his
family
for
a
long
time
comes
from
a
great
family
and
I
hear
he's
a
fine
young
man
and
I'm
at
this
point
I'm
not
gonna
be
able
to
be
there
this
morning
because
of
a
family
on
this.
So
huge
congratulations
and
I
can't
tell
who's
there
with
you
hope.
Maybe
doctor
with
you
and
just
congratulations
on
all
you've
done.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you.
That
was
a
great
presentation
with
you
at
a
new
engineer
in
kentucky.
That's
what
we
need,
madam
chair.
This
is
house
bill,
63,
there's
a
committee
substitute.
A
E
You
know
a
few
years
ago,
madam
chair,
our
late
great
friend,
bam,
carney,
senator
max
wise,
and
you
chair
and
many
others
in
the
general
assembly
and
around
the
state
went
around
the
state
looking
for
ways
asking
staff
teachers,
the
general
public.
What
are
some
things
we
can
do
to
make
our
schools
safer.
E
E
E
This
bill
is
not
an
unfunded
mandate.
This
committee
substitute
is
not
unfunded.
This,
I
was
told,
was
the
next
step
to
get
our
safety.
The
safety
in
our
schools
funded
this
bill
would
be
a
good
step
forward,
because
what
this
bill
will
do
two
things
mainly
one:
it
defines
that
an
sro
be
physically
on
a
campus
of
assignment,
that's
the
first
part
and
the
second
part
it
gives
school
districts
that
do
not
have
funding
or
enough
officers,
and
we
know
there
are
not
enough.
There's
not
enough
officers
out
there
to
fulfill
this
role.
E
There's
not
enough
staff
and
this
school
safety
acts
requirement
will
have
the
district
informing
the
school
safety
marshal
of
the
problem
that
a
school
is
having
that
cannot
fulfill
the
intentions
of
senate
bill.
One
and
a
plan
can
be
devised
to
make
it
happen.
Now.
Here's
an
important
thing
that
this
bill
will
do
too.
E
The
the
senate
bill
one
required
a
annual
report
on
school
safety
and
many
of
the
if
you've
ever
seen
it
it's
a
very
detailed,
well
put
together
report
every
year.
E
So
with
those
statistics
as
they
gather
that
will
be
a
great
movement
to
get
us
to
fund
it.
They'll
have
stats
to
say,
look
this.
This
school
district
is
having
problems
with
funding
or
whatnot
and
it'll
be
in
the
report.
It'll
be
a
great
report
to
get
us
to
that.
Next
step
of
funding
senate
bill,
1,
the
school
safety
resiliency
act.
A
Thank
you.
We
have
a
motion
on
the
bill
by
representative
second
by
representative
timoney.
We
do
have
some
that
want
to
speak
in
regards
to
the
bill
as
well
from
our
audience,
but
we'll
take
the
questions
and
then
we'll
have
them
speak
and
then
we'll
take
a
vote.
So
representative
bojanowski.
O
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
start
with
I've
been
a
teacher
in
an
elementary
school
in
jcps
for
13
years,
and
at
no
point
in
in
my
personal
experience,
have
I
felt
unsafe
in
our
building
with
our
our
current
plan.
So
that's
just
my
perspective
from
an
elementary
level,
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
local
control.
O
So
now
we're
talking
the
complete
opposite
of
local
control
in
that
our
locally
elected
school
board
in
jefferson
county
and
I'm
going
to
speak
of
jefferson
county
because
I
feel
like
this
bill
is
directly
aimed
toward
jefferson
county.
Our
locally
elected
school
board
has
decided
7-0
unanimously
to
adopt
the
safety
plan
that
has
been
presented
by
dr
polio.
E
E
Wearing
a
mask
or
social
distancing
is
much
lower
to
me
than
the
unspeakable
of
what
we
know
could
happen
one
day
in
one
of
our
schools,
if
there's
no
security
there,
so
I
don't
know
how
to
really
answer
that
we
could
talk
about
covert
restrictions
or
we
could
talk
about
school
safety
officers
during
a
horrible
situation
to
me
they
don't
relate
to
each
other.
I
understand
your
concept
of
local
control
on
one
item
and
a
statewide
law
on
the
other,
but
it's
just
two
different
things
and
the
two
different
things
speak
for
themselves.
O
May
I
just
follow
up
briefly
briefly
all
right,
so
I
mean
it's
very
frustrating
from
from
my
position
to
hear
local
control,
local
control,
local
control
and
then
for
a
bill
to
be
presented
to
us
that
would
take
away
the
local
control
of
our
elected
school
board,
who,
according
to
their
attorneys,
are
following
the
the
nature
of
the
law.
O
So
I
thank
you
for
taking
my
question
and
for
communicating
with
me
about
this
topic,
but
I
simply
feel
like
if
local
control
is
essential
during
a
global
pandemic,
that
local
control
can
know
best
how
to
keep
our
students
safe.
Thank
you.
E
E
So
this
isn't
the
first
time
that's
come
up,
but
come
to
the
front
I
mean
there's
local
control
on
some
things
and
who
provides
that
local
control
the
legislature.
They
say
you
can
have
local
control
on
xyz,
but
there's
a
state
law
on
abc.
So
it's
I
understand
your
frustration.
I
just
don't
agree
with
it
on
this
issue.
K
Thank
you,
chairwoman,
chairman
bradshaw,
just
for
people
who
don't
have
the
committee
sub
in
front
of
them.
What's
the
difference
between
the
original
bill
and
the
committee
sub,
I'm
not
talking
about
those
of
us
on
the
committee
talking
about
people.
E
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
okay!
Well,
the
first
bill
just
said
the
first
bill
house
bill
63
just
simply
said
that
you
can't
use
the
loophole
of
there's,
not
enough
funds
or
not
enough
personnel.
E
E
I
went
to
many
experts
in
the
field
and
that's
when
we
created
the
committee's
sub
to
where,
if
you
can't
afford
the
intentions
of
the
school
safety
act,
then
send
send
your
reasons
to
the
school
safety
center
and
the
school
safety
marshal
a
statewide
marshall
and
let's
work
on
a
plan
to
get
you
there
and,
like
I
said
one
of
the
great
byproducts
of
this
committee,
madam
chair
in
committee,
is
that
now
we
will
know
what
schools
can't
reach
the
level
that
senate
bill
1
the
school
safety
act
requires,
and
we
can
find
out
why
they
can't
reach
that
level,
and
maybe
we
can
do
something
to
help
them
in
the
future.
E
K
If
I
could
follow
up
briefly,
thank
you
chairwoman,
so
a
chairman
bradshaw
just
to
follow
up
then
where
it
says,
as
funds
and
qualified
personnel
become
available,
that's
been
struck
and
I'm
stricken
from
this
particular
committee
substitute.
So
where
would
funds
come
from
to
pay
for
the
school
resource
officers?
Well,.
E
E
Officer,
statewide
marshall
and
they
develop
a
plan
to
get
them
there,
and
if
you
can't
get
there,
you
can't
get
there.
This
is
not
an
unfunded
mandate.
K
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
welcome
to
everybody
here
representative.
I
do
have
a
couple
issues
with
the
bill.
I
mean
one
thing's
about
the
funding
to
make
sure
that
we
fund
and-
and
I
will
say
this
and
the
other
thing
is
about
what
we
use
in
school.
I
think
we
should
have
flexibility
for
it,
whether
it's
a
taser
or
a
gun.
H
Unfortunately,
and
hang
on
to
your
hats,
you
know
when
I
was
in
school
in
the
60s
we
in
in
high
school,
we
have
police
officers
in
the
school,
and
people
forget
that
some
of
our
schools
in
louisville
kentucky
had
police
officers
in
the
school.
So
I've
often
said
about
resource
officers.
They
can
be
called
a
resource
ambassador.
H
They
can
be
different
things
like
that,
because
when
I
was
in
school
somebody
that
handled
a
lot
of
times
would
be
my
my
biology
teacher
that
people
have
respect,
for
it
was
the
one
that
we
call.
There
was
any
kind
of
issue
in
the
school,
so
we've
gotten
away
from
that,
but
unfortunately,
with
today's
society
we
have
to
have
somebody
in
those
schools.
H
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
fully
funded
every
school,
I
believe
every
school
should
have
one,
but
I
think
the
schools
system
should
be
able
to
make
those
decisions,
whether
or
not
they're
in
kindergartens
or
middle
schools
and
stuff
like
that
as
well
too,
but
that's
the
only
concerns
they
have
is
about
making
sure
they're
funded.
Unfortunately,
in
this
day
and
age
we
have
to
have
someone
there.
I
think
we
ought
to
take
a
look
at
what
their
responsibilities
are
going
to
be
as
as
to
not.
H
I
don't
want
to
see
a
situation
where
a
resource
officer
comes
to
school
and
won't
answer
the
problem.
I
think
they
should
be
there.
They
should
be
a
part
of
what's
going
on.
Those
kids
should
be
able
to
build
a
relationship
with
those
individuals,
man
or
woman-
that's
there,
and
so
we
can
alleviate
some
of
the
problems
because
they'll
trust
them
and
come
talk
to,
but
I'm
going
to
support
this
legislation.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
discussing
the
sros.
I
just
want
to
quickly
mention.
I've
witnessed
firsthand
the
relationships
that
these
sros
are
creating
with
students
and
just
how
grateful
I
am
that
someone
is
there
to
protect
my
daughter
as
a
teacher
and
my
grandchildren
are
in
the
public
schools.
So
it's
to
me
it's
just
a
very
important
that
we
realize
what
their
need
is
and,
with
all
due
respect
to
representative
bojanowski's
experience.
A
If
you
had
asked
someone
that
had
been
through
this
devastation
of
a
school
shooting,
they
would
have
probably
had
the
same
experience
that
you
had
the
day
before.
I
don't
think
we
ever
imagined
such
horrific
actions
within
our
school
system.
So
but
I
I
just
want
to
commend
the
sros
that
are
in
our
districts,
because
they
are
trying
to
form
relationships
and
doing
a
fantastic
job
for
them
once
and
I've
witnessed
quite
a
few
doing
their
job.
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
also
representative
baker
has
a
question.
C
C
I
have
witnessed
over
the
years
some
of
the
sros
in
my
community,
and
these
are
good
men.
These
are
men
who
are
there
for
safety,
but
they
provide
a
positive
male
role
model
within
that
building
that
some
of
these
young
young
students
need
particularly
the
young
men
in
the
building,
and
they
they
fill
so
many
roles
throughout
that,
and
so
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
as
a
matter
of
local
control
to
my
understanding
is
for
my
district
where
I
live.
C
There
are
some
buildings
that
have
full-time
people
and
there
are
some
who
float
and
the
district
makes
that
decision.
Does
this
take
that
decision
away
from
them?
Will
they
continue
to
do
that
as
they
move
forward
and
work
out
that
plan
and
report
to
the
state
marshal?
Will
they
continue
to
make
the
decisions
on
which
buildings
have
the
the
sros
first
and
which
ones
get
them
later
on.
E
Sure
they
will,
you
know
jefferson,
county
public
schools
just
came
up
with
a
great
new
plan.
It's
it's
a
great
first
step.
You
know
and
the
the
goal
is
to
have
an
sro.
That's
the
original
intent
of
senate
bill.
One
was
to
have
an
sro
on
every
school
campus
and
you
know
there's
ways
to
get
to
there.
You
know
it
doesn't
have
to
rome
wasn't
built
overnight
right
I
mean
it
takes
a
while
and
with
the
funding
and
the
lack
of
personnel,
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
get
there
so
yeah.
G
G
I've
really
enjoyed
my
time
here.
It's
been
a
great
experience,
great
learning,
experience
of
all
the
committee
meetings.
We
have,
I
don't
remember
a
lot.
I'll
be
honest.
I
don't
always
remember.
What's
happened
in
previous
committee
meetings,
but
I
do
remember
one
committee
meeting
very
specifically
bam.
Carney
was
chairing
that
meeting
my
good
friend
we
closed
the
meeting
and
he
made
an
announcement
here
in
this
very
room
that
there
had
been
a
shooting
at
marshall
county
high
school.
G
G
They
are
so
precious.
I
I
attended
some
of
the
meetings
that
took
place
across
the
state
in
the
development
of
senate
bill.
1.
representative
carney
senator
wise,
took
great
steps
to
incorporate
anybody,
bring
anybody
to
the
table
who
wanted
to
have
input
on
this
decision.
We
came
up
with
senate
bill,
one
and
representative
bratry.
You
are
right.
It
is
the
intent
of
senate
bill
1
that
every
school
campus
in
the
state
of
kentucky
have
a
school
resource
officer.
G
G
I
had
the
opportunity
to
serve
as
principal.
For
the
day,
the
robert
b
turner
elementary
school
in
anderson
county
last
fall
that
school
had
a
deputy
sheriff
serving
as
a
school
resource
officer.
My
time
there
that
day,
I
had
an
opportunity
to
observe
the
interaction
between
that
officer.
The
deputy
and
the
students
in
the
school
it
was
a
bonding
type
of
relationship
is
a
relation.
You
could
definitely
see
the
students,
respect
that
officer
and
that's
what
we
need
in
our
schools.
We
have
so
many
social
problems.
Now
are
you
for
dealing
with
so
many
issues?
G
G
You
know
we're
the
state's
in
a
little
better
financial
situation
than
we
have
been
in
the
past
and
I
serve
on.
I
serve
on
appropriations
revenue
and
I'm
more
willing
to
talk
to
my
fellow
members
and
chair
petrie,
and
maybe
there
is
some
funding
we
can
come
up
with
to
help
solve
this
problem.
So
I
appreciate
this
certainly
support
this
bill
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it
forward.
Representative
bratcher.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
representative,
bratcher
and
seatmate
for
being
here
today
and
presenting
on
this
matter.
I
will
tell
you
that
long
before
some
of
these
shootings
occurred
in
my
county,
where
I
served
for
for
a
number
of
years,
we
now
have
an
sro
in
every
school,
but
I'll
never
forget.
I
was
a
brand
new
baby
board
member
when
they
came
to
me
and
asked
me
about
sros
and
the
board's
admonition
to
the
sheriff
at
that.
L
Time
was
well
we're
glad
to
have
these
officers
in
our
buildings,
but
we
don't
want
to
have
don't
want
them
to
have
firearms
I'll.
Never
forget
what
sheriff
hellmuth
said
to
me
at
that
point
he
says:
look
if
you're
going
to
have
us
do
a
job.
You
have
to
allow
us
to
have
the
tools
to
do
our
job,
and
that
was
one
of
the
tools
that
they
obviously
use
and
not
only
protecting
themselves.
L
The
other
company
said
is:
look,
I'm
not
going
to
put
my
my
people
in
harm's
way
if
they
don't
have
a
way
to
protect
themselves,
so
the
history
was,
we
had
a
an
sro
in
our
buildings.
We
had
one
in
each
campus
at
that
time
until
marshall
county,
and
then
we
worked
with
our
sheriff's
department
in
a
cooperative
effort
in
a
collaborative
effort
to
put
an
sro
in
every
school
in
our
district.
L
L
Work
and
that's
a
very
frustrating
endeavor
and
I
fought
against
that
for
many
many
years
at
the
state
level
and
the
national
level.
I
think
we
need
to
fund
our
sros.
I
think
we
need,
as
a
state,
to
step
up
and
fund
the
sros
and
the
schools
around
our
state,
including
jefferson
county,
because
you
know
life
is
worth
that
funding
just
candidly.
A
life
is
worth
that
funding
and
our
sros
are
actually
mentors
to
those
students,
and
so
students
will
trust
them.
L
I
did
a
research
paper,
not
that
anyone
cares,
but
I
had
a
research
paper
when
I
was
in
college
between
the
attitudes
towards
police
in
boone
county,
as
opposed
to
covington
and
in
boone
county.
They
were
they
they
embraced
and
said
they're.
My
friend
I
can
go
to
them.
I
trust
them.
If
I
need
help,
I
run
to
them
and
in
covington
they
said
they
took
my
brother
away.
L
They
came
into
my
house
and
arrested
my
dad
and
there
was
this
huge
mistrust
and
and
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
but
what
I
learned
with
that
was
invaluable.
We
need
to
work
on
building
trust
in
our
schools
with
these
security
personnel.
These
officers
can
can
be
part
of
the
team.
If
you
will,
we've
incorporated
them
in
that
way
in
boone
county,
and
I
hope
in
jefferson
county
they'll
consider
doing
that,
but
I
think
we,
as
a
legislative
body,
ought
to
commit
to
getting
the
funding
for
senate
bill
one.
It's
easy
to
pass
a
bill.
L
It
really
I
mean
not
always
super
easy,
but
it's
easy
to
pass
a
bill
and
say
we
want
to
do
these
great
things,
but
we're
not
going
to
fund
it
until
we
step
up
to
the
plate
and
fund
the
commitments
we
make.
We're
going
to
have
continue
to
have
these
problems.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
our
attention
to
this,
and
I
appreciate
your
desire
to
protect
the
students
within
your
districts,
and
I
just
thank
you
for
that.
E
Could
I
you
know,
thank
you,
representative,
massey
seat,
mate
and
and
that
annual
report
that
the
safety
center
does
every
year
on
school
safety.
E
It
has
a
percentage
of
how
many
are
following
the
sro
rule
and
there's
like
half
the
schools
are
not
doing
it
and
you
know
what
one
of
the
first
questions
that's
asked.
I've
been
told
by
the
marshall
and
and
the
ones
that
work
this
every
day.
Is
they
say
why?
Why
isn't?
Why
aren't
they
doing
that?
Well,
the
obvious
is,
you
know
the
lack
of
funding
and
and
the
lack
of
personnel,
but
it's
not
there
in
black
and
white,
and
I
don't
know
how
you
one
one.
E
One
fellow
told
me
this:
how
you
ever
go.
How
are
we
ever
gonna
approach?
The
legislature
say
this
is
a
lack
of
funding.
The
reason
this
it's
not
happening.
So
that's
why
I
reiterate
this
is
a
first
step
to
providing
statistics.
You
know
before
we
ever
dole
out
a
dime
that
we
want
to
know
all
the
information
of
where
that
money
is
going,
and
this
will
be
a
great
first
step
to
get
us
to
the
point
of
hopefully
funding.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
rick
bratcher,
I
just
you
know
senate
bill
one
and
then
in
2019
and
senate
bill
8
in
2020.
It
was
a
result
of
very
a
very
thoughtful
process,
as
many
people
here
have
outlined,
and
I
remember
that
day
of
the
marshall
county
shooting.
I
remember.
M
How
devastating
that
news
was?
I
remember
that
there
was
an
sro
on
the
campus
at
the
time
that
that
shooting
happened
and
well.
I
have
many
questions
as
personnel
and
funding
become
available
was
part
of
senate
bill
1
and
then
later
senate
bill
8
and
now
we're
looking
to
get
rid
of
that
it
looks
like,
and
funding
is
one
issue,
but
personnel
is
another
issue,
and
I
know
that
at
least
in
jefferson
county,
where
you
and
I
live.
M
We
are
short
many
many
many
many
police
officers,
and
so
my
understanding
prior
was
that
if
personnel
is
not
available,
it
would
be
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
school
system.
The
local
school
district,
where
those
limited
number
of
officers
are
assigned,
and
can
you
help
me
clarify
for
me-
is
that
now
no
longer
up
to
local
decision
making?
It
has
to
go
through
the
state
security.
M
Okay,
but
but
prior
to
this
bill,
that
would
be
left
to
the
discretion
of
the
school
system.
So,
and
I
have
one
other
question-
we've
heard
stories
and
I
personally
and
I'm
sure
you
too
have
met
some
wonderful
school
resource
officers,
men
and
women
who
serve
in
these
roles
and
do
a
fantastic
job
and
build
relationships
with
students.
M
Sadly,
we've
also
had
incidents
where
school
resource
resource
officers
have
not
engaged
safely
with
students.
Students
have
been
injured,
students
have
been
traumatized,
students
have
been
put
into
the
criminal
justice
system
over
what
was
essentially
a
school
discipline
issue
and
so
part
of
the
jefferson
county
plan.
When
that
happens.
M
My
understanding
is
that
senate
bill
1
and
then
later
senate
bill
8
allowed
for
school
law
enforcement
officers
that
could
be
hired
by
the
school
system.
Who
would
actually
report
to
the
superintendent
of
schools?
Does
this
bill
preclude
those
school
law
enforcement
officers
that
report
to
the
school
system
rather
than
report
to
a
police
department.
E
M
P
E
P
P
P
P
P
I
know
pleasure
ridge
park
had
one
that
was
very,
very
useful,
but
they
did
away
with
them
and
I
just
think
we
need
to
think
about
having
someone
in
our
schools
that
can
help
us
in
many
ways,
because
principals
and
assistant
principals
and
teachers
counselors.
We
can't
do
everything,
so
we
do
need
people
there
to
help
us.
P
E
You
thank
you,
representative
miller.
Some
of
my
finest
days
were
under
his
principal
principleship.
I
guess
is
the
right
word.
You
know
we
it's
easy
to
say.
Let's
go
back
to
the
old
days.
You
know
I
felt
so
safe
in
all
my
schools
that
I
went
to
in
jefferson,
county
public
schools.
I
was
a.
E
I
went
to
freshman
and
sophomore
year
at
prp
and
he
paddled
me
and
that's.
You
know.
You've
heard
that
and
that's
true,
but
we
were
flipping
coins
against
the
new
new
gym
and
spitting
tobacco.
We
were
on
the
baseball
team.
We
thought
we
were
something
else.
A
E
But
here's
here's
interesting.
I
was
bus,
my
junior
and
senior
year
to
shawnee
and
we
had
three
sros
there
and
they
were
some
of
the
coolest
guys
and
when
I
say
cool
I
mean
they
were
somebody
you
could
talk
to.
They
were
always
around:
they.
They
immediately
stopped
any
scuffles
or
you
know
how
kids
are
they
immediately
stepped
in?
E
They
all
three
were
african-american,
not
that
that
matters,
but
they
were
three
of
the
the
greatest
guys
that
I
had
met
other
than
principal
miller
at
prp,
but
they
made
our
time
at
shawnee.
When
I
was
bus
here,
my
junior
and
senior
year
safe,
it
made
it
safe,
it
felt
safe
and
that's
why
and
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
continuing
to
do
this,
and
I
say
this
a
lot
because
I
think
it's
important
ever
since
this
started
and
I
kind
of
took
the
point
on
it.
E
I
received
so
many
emails
from
parents,
staff
and
teachers,
and
even
I
called
her
a
mental
health
counselor,
but
I
found
out
later
she
was
a
social
worker
that
she
makes
visits
to
different
schools
and
on
the
same
day
somebody
said
well,
you
need
to
quit
worrying
about
sros
and
make
sure
you
get
more
mental
health
counselors.
E
H
Chair
huff,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity,
representative
ratcher.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
H
Those
went
hand
in
hand.
We
also
implemented
controversial
at
the
time
metal
detectors,
but
I
can
tell
you
that,
as
an
assistant
principal,
I
relied
heavily
on
our
school
resource
officers
for
guidance,
the
training
I
was
given
on
due
process
following
due
process
and
how
critical
that
is
for
student
rights.
I
was
improved
tremendously
just
on
the
relationships
I
had
with
our
school
resource
officers.
H
I
think
this
is
warranted
every
school
that
I've
worked
in,
with
the
exception
of
a
school
in
jefferson
county.
We
had
school
resource
officers
and
it
was
as
a
teacher
I
was
felt
safe
in
my
classrooms,
but
as
a
principal,
I
always
liked
having
someone
there
to
help
now.
Jurisdictional
issues
were
something
that
we
would
always
have
discussions
about
and
those
things
have
to
be
ironed
out,
but
they
have
been,
and
they
can
be,
there's
a
lot
of
research
about
how
important
this
is.
H
I
I
just
think
of
the
relationships
that
our
school
resource
officers
have
with
our
student
body
as
well
as
our
staff
members.
I
think
it's,
I
think
they're
they're
very,
very
important
to
have
there
and
I-
and
I
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Excuse
me,
thank
you
lyndon
pryor.
I
am
here
as
a
concerned,
constituent
and
parent
from
louisville
kentucky.
Q
I'm
the
father
of
a
first
grader
in
in
louisville
kentucky,
and
one
thing
I
can
say
about
her
time
so
far
through
kindergarten
and
first
grade.
Obviously,
we've
been
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic,
and
so
it
has
not
been
anything
that
we
have
expected
or
anticipated
for
what
her
first
years
of
school
would
look
like.
Q
But
I've
gotten
to
know
the
folks
in
her
building
her
classmates,
and
I
can
say,
with
all
confidence
that
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
they
need,
but
more
officers
in
schools
or
an
officer
in
this
case
for
her
school
is
not
one
of
them
and
certainly
not
someone
else
with
a
gun.
What
students
and
teachers
and
school
administrators
need
more
than
anything
or
more
truly
trusted
and
skilled
adults
in
their
buildings.
Q
This
is
often
just
not
the
case
for
sros,
and
I've
heard
you
all
speak
a
lot
about
some
of
the
experiences
that
you
all
have,
but
frankly,
I'd
like
to
posit
that
there
is
a
different
experience
for
for
others,
and
we
know
this
from
national
data.
Q
The
available
research
concludes
that
higher
rates
are
that
those
higher
rates
are
based
on
sros
reporting.
Low-Level
behaviors
is
crime,
and
this
is
especially
true
for
black
and
brown
students.
People
who
look
like
me
and
my
daughter
simply
put
sros,
have
been
shown
to
detract
from
healthy
and
productive
learning
environments.
Q
They
tend
to
have
little
to
no
impact
on
actually
reducing
violent
behavior,
and
I
think
that
is
an
important
thing
to
stress,
since
somewhat
of
the
foundation
of
this
bill
is
laid
on.
This
idea
of
keeping
kids
safe,
but
many
of
the
mass
shootings
that
have
occurred
in
schools
have
been
in
spaces
where
so
sros
were
still
present,
and
yet
those
things
still
took
place,
and
so
the
idea
or
this
mythology
around
safety
is
one
that
we
really
need
to
debunk.
Q
Lastly,
sros
have
been
proven
to
exacerbate
the
school
to
prison
pipeline.
They
are
drained
on
district
budgets.
They
are
cumbersome
for
law
enforcement
agencies
already
saddled
with
self-proclaimed
staffing
shortages,
and
the
simple
fact
is
that
we've
been
here
long
enough
to
know
that
this
is
not
necessarily
answered
to
keeping
kids
safe
and,
more
and
more
importantly,
helping
kids
learn,
which
is
the
point
of
school.
Q
So
what
I
think
we
should
be
doing
is
investing
in
proven
solutions
that
students,
teachers,
staff
and
families
have
asked
for
and
stand
behind
trauma
informed
mental
health
providers,
which
I
heard
mentioned
here-
counselors
teachers,
aides
and
other
adults
tasked
with
tasked
and
trained
specifically
trained
to
actually
support
students
in
the
ways
that
matter
most
to
them
most
to
their
personal
and
academic
well-being.
Q
Far
too
often
in
our
history,
we
have
used
education
and
our
children
as
pawns
for
kind
of
uninformed
and
self-serving
political
whims
of
adults,
and
that's
just
really
unfortunate.
Q
The
data
supports
that
and
if
you
listen
to
the
voices
of
the
kids
who
have
been
through
recent
school
shootings,
recent
ones,
whether
that
be
students
going
back
all
the
way
to
columbine,
but
in
florida
in
connecticut
and
other
places,
those
students
have
been
screaming
out
for
different
types
of
changes
and
reforms
that
deal
with
what
happens
to
them
in
school.
But
none
of
them
are
screaming
for
sros.
Q
I
just
asked
that
this
body
would
act
on
behalf
of
all
the
students.
I
I
respect
that
some
of
you
have
had
good
experiences
with
sros
and
I
and
I
acknowledge
that
that
is
possible,
but
we
have
to
always
consider
the
unintended
consequences
and
allow
for
schools
to
make
the
decisions
that
is
going
to
be
best
for
all
of
their
students
locally.
A
R
R
R
For
the
record,
please
thank
you,
yeah.
Absolutely,
I'm
siddiqua
reynolds
president
and
ceo
of
the
louisville
urban
league
we're
a
civil
rights
organization.
We
are
based
in
louisville
kentucky,
there's
also
a
lexington
urban
league
in
lexington,
and
our
focus
is
on
jobs,
justice,
education,
health
and
housing.
Thank
you
all.
R
R
A
student
is
far
more
likely
to
be
involved
in
a
shooting
off
campus,
even
though
enhanced
security
measures
such
as
police
and
security
officers,
were
largely
inspired
by
school
shootings
in
mostly
white
suburban
schools.
They
have
been
most
readily
adopted
and
enforced
in
urban
schools
with
low
student
to
teacher
ratios,
high
percentages
of
students
of
color
and
lower
test
scores
sros,
and
you
need
to
hear
this
no
matter
how
well
trained
can
not
provide
the
same
ongoing
support
than
a
mental
health,
professional,
social
worker
or
other
adult
charged
with
supporting
students.
R
Can
representative
donahue,
I
don't
understand
where
you
get.
The
data
more
people
die
in
school
shootings
where
an
armed
officer
is
present
than
where
there
isn't
one.
According
to
a
new
study
published
by
a
criminal
justice,
professor,
jillian
peterson,
who
looked
at
133
shootings
where
one
or
more
people
were
intentionally
shot
in
a
school
building
or
where
someone
came
to
school
armed
with
the
intent
of
firing
indiscriminately.
R
R
R
If
you
build
a
relationship
with
students,
they
will
tell
you
what
is
happening.
They
will
tell
you
what's
happening
in
school
outside
of
school
in
their
homes.
I
run
an
organization
where
we
support
students
we
run
out
of
school
time
programs.
I
have
staff
who
have
interrupted
suicides
who
have
stopped
violence
in
schools
before
they
got
there.
We
have
notified
authorities
of
abuse,
we
have
found
children
who
were
missing
you.
That
is
correct.
You
can
build
relationships
and
build
trust.
You
don't
have
to
have
a
weapon
to
do
that
and
in
fact
it
doesn't
help.
R
R
The
other
thing
I
thought
about
is
I've
been
sitting
here.
Listening
to
you
all,
I
hear
you
talk
about
the
tornado
and
the
devastation.
You
know
what
those
families
and
those
children
have
been
through
and
we're
talking
about.
Resiliency.
Imagine
that
children
have
been
traumatized,
they
have
no
home,
they
have
been
displaced.
That's
your
word
that
was
used
here
today
and
your
response
is
to
send
police.
R
Where
is
the
mercy
in
that
for
our
families,
for
our
students,
what
are
we
doing
to
support
them
with
mental
health
representative?
You
talked
about
what
manny
did
in
lexington,
but
he
did
that
in
conjunction
with
mental
health
therapists,
you
have
said
nothing
about
funding
mental
health
therapists.
You
have
said
nothing
about
sending
social
workers
into
schools.
R
Our
children
are
traumatized.
They
were
traumatized
before
the
pandemic
and
it
is
worse
now
ask
any
teacher.
Ask
anybody
in
there
ask
yourselves
what
is
happening
with
your
own
families.
Depression
is
up.
600
percent
anxiety
is
up
800
percent,
the
suicide
rate.
Is
there
one
of
you
that
knows
how
many
children
in
your
district
has
killed
themselves
since
we
started
school
this
year
last
year.
Even
these
children
need
something
other
than
police.
This
is
not
to
demonize
police.
I
talked
to
three
police
chiefs
last
night.
R
R
R
R
R
It's
worth.
The
money
it's
worth
the
money:
when
will
you
show
kentucky
that
our
students
are
worth
the
money,
invest
in
preventive
help?
Police
are
band-aids,
police
are
band-aids,
we
need
front-end
support
for
our
students
and
not
just
in
jefferson
county
and
not
just
for
black
and
brown
students
for
white
students
for
all
of
the
students.
They
are
suffering
and
this
doesn't
help
and
the
fact
that
you
would
suggest
that
we
would
spend
any
dime
that
we
find
on
police
instead
of
getting
help
for
our
young
people.
How
dare
you?
R
R
I'm
here
to
tell
you
that
you
are
making
a
terrible
error
and,
and
it's
and
it
is
important,
chair
huff,
because
the
dollars
that
you
will
spend
and
force
these
districts
to
spend
cannot
be
used
on
the
things
that
they
need
and
the
humans
that
they
need
in
the
building.
With
the
bandwidth
to
follow
up,
that's
what
we
haven't
had
we've
got
teachers.
We've
got
librarians,
I'm
almost
finished.
I
know
I'm.
R
Well,
I
understand
that
my
five
minutes
are
not
quite
up.
I
think
I've
been
looking
at
it
one
more
second,
and
I'm
done.
Thank
you
so
much
representative
chair
huff.
I
want
to
say
this:
the
dollars
that
you
redirect
will
not
be
able
to
be
used
in
the
schools
to
help
with
more
adults
to
prevent
the
things
that
are
happening.
Please
do
not
do
this.
Thank.