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A
Committee,
I
always
want
to
say
administrative
regulation,
but
that's
not
true
anymore.
This
is
meeting
number
one.
A
couple
of
things
I
want
to
do
before
we
get
started.
Is
we
have
tom
hewlett
our
long
time,
staff
person
as
long
as
I've
been
around,
has
moved
on
to
the
position
of
deputy
director
and
I
want
to.
I
want
to
congratulate
him.
A
I
tell
you,
it's
our
loss
and
their
gain
he's
just
been
great
to
work
with
all
those
years,
and
so,
if
you
see
him
make
sure
you
congratulate
him,
he's
no
longer
with
us,
but
we
have
a
new
boss,
man
and
that
is
bryce
ambergri
and
we
bryce's
notion
there.
You
are
bryce.
Bryce
is
no
stranger
to
us
and
I
know
he's
gonna
do
a
good
job,
and
so
I
want
to
congratulate
him.
A
I
look
forward
to
working
with
him
and
we
have
also
have
a
new
another
brand
new
person
to
the
committee
who
I
just
met
this
morning.
Wendy
craig.
Where
are
you
there?
You
are
raise
your
hand.
A
Wendy
is
an
attorney
and
comes
from
the
department
of
public
advocacy,
welcome,
wendy
and
we
all
know
lisa,
moore
and
she's,
not
going
anywhere
and
then
the
person
who's
gonna
be
handling
in
the
senate
is
another
good
friend
of
ours
for
many
years,
jasmine
williams,
so
she's
going
to
be
sitting
up
here
with
the
committee
and
jasmine
welcome
it's
great
to
have
you
on
the
team
a
couple
other
things
you
all
got
your
memo
about,
the
24-hour
rule
for
committee
subs
and
that
rule
will
remain
in
effect.
A
The
way
that
works
is
you
can
you
can
submit
a
sub
after
after
that
time?
But
if
one
person
on
the
committee
objects,
it
will
be
deferred
to
the
next
meeting.
I'd
like
to
encourage
members
to
get
your
committee
subs
in
on
friday,
because
I
want
to
get
you
your
agenda
and
your
meeting
material
at
all
possible
on
friday,
so
you
can
look
at
it
over
the
weekend.
That's
going
to
be
my
goal
that
all
members
will
have
everything
on
on
friday.
A
A
And
we
have
a
brand
new
member
on
the
committee,
and
I
want
to
welcome
senator
dr
donald
douglas
welcome
to
the
best
committee
in
frankfurt.
I
think
you'll.
I
think
you'll
enjoy
your
serving
on
this
committee.
A
lot
of
interesting
things
come
through
this
committee
and
I
think
you'll
enjoy
it
very
well.
Much
welcome
and
we're
gonna
look
forward
to
your
input.
A
A
This
is
a
something
that
tom
brought
to
me.
That
I
think
is
important
and
I
wanted
to
have
a
hearing
on
it
because
it
may
be
a.
I
don't
know
what
the
plans
are
for
attach
it
to
another
bill.
It's
a
very
small
technical
change,
but
I
wanted
to
get
it
out
in
public
in
what
I
not
really
the
public
domain.
I
guess
because
we
don't
have
a
bill,
but
I
wanted
to
get
it
out.
There
have
a
hearing,
so
people
that
are
opposed
or
support.
It
will
know.
C
C
There
are
currently
three
paths
to
get
a
mechanics
license
and
those
are
to
either
have
three
years
of
contractor
verified
experience
or
the
equivalent
experience
from
the
u.s
military
services,
a
certificate
of
completion
from
a
nationally
recognized
training
program
approved
by
the
department
that
takes
four
years
or
a
certificate
of
completion
of
an
apprenticeship
program
and
proof
of
registration,
with
the
bureau
of
apprenticeship,
training,
u.s
department
of
labor
or
the
state
apprenticeship
council.
That
also
takes
four
years.
C
C
What
we
need
to
talk
about
today
is
a
workforce
issue
and
a
flexibility
issue
for
the
department.
Currently,
there
is
a
shortage
of
mechanics
available
to
work.
The
there
are
retirements
and,
like
every
other
industry,
there's
a
shortage
of
folks
in
the
industry
dc
elevator
currently
employs
about
70
mechanics.
There
are
approximately
300
in
the
state.
C
That
number
is
not
rising
as
we
have
the
retirements,
but
construction
is
up
and
we
have
a
lot
of
work
going
on
in
western
kentucky,
as
you
can
imagine.
So
there
are
problems
there.
Dc
elevator
has
10
individuals
that
have
applied
for
a
temporary
license
as
they
work
toward
getting
their
full
license
requiring
the
three
years
of
experience.
The
current
statute,
however,
198b4021,
which
I
think
you
have
in
your
packets,
the
line
one
of
sub
one
says
an
elevator
contract-
shall
notify
the
department.
C
We
believe
that
that
creates
a
situation
that
constrains
the
department
from
being
able
to
grant
those
temporary
licenses,
and
we
would
suggest
the
language
needs
to
be
to
strike
the
word
no
and
change
to
a
shortage
of
licensed
personnel
available
in
a
second
issue
on
that.
As
far
as
a
a
problem
in
the
statute
is
sub4,
which
currently
says
the
temporary
license
shall
be
renewable
for
additional
terms
of
one
year,
each
until
no
shortage
of
ordinary
license
holders
exist
when
we
originally
did
this
statutory
language
back
under
senator
tapp
was
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
C
C
So
very
simply,
we'd
like
to
see
the
opportunity
to
get
folks
that
have
experience
that
are
working
toward
their
license,
a
temporary
license
to
assist
in
the
labor
shortage
that
we're
experiencing
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
do
have
mr
chuck
sharp
the
president
of
dc
elevator
here
with
me,
for
when
I
get
out
of
my
depth
and
technical
questions.
C
A
You
for
your
testimony
is
there
any
correlation
between
this
issue
and
the
tornado
devastation
in
western
kentucky.
As
far
as
the
urgency
of
this
legislation.
C
A
And
didn't
you
tell
me
in
my
office
if
I
recall
correctly
that
there's
really
only
one
word
that
needs
to
be
changed
in
the
statute?
Is
that
true.
C
Sir,
I
can
go
over
that
that
is
in
198b4021.
C
A
C
A
D
I
did,
mr
chairman
and
tom,
thank
you.
I
you
know
and
you're
right.
It
just
changes
very
few
words,
and
probably
probably
every
license
we
have
in
the
state
could
put
this
same
language
in
because
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
I've
heard
of
any
any
organization,
that's
not
having
labor
issues,
but
there
are
qualifications
to
get
this
temporary
license,
because
that
elevators
are
fairly
serious
items
and
I
get
on
one.
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
going
yes,
sir,
especially
going
down
and
going
up
it
could
get
stuck.
C
C
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
know
senator
tapp
had
good
intentions
when
he
did
this
and
I
hate
to
see
change,
senator
tapp's
language,
what
he
had
there
but-
and
you
answered
a
lot
of
my
questions
when
you
answered
senator
higdon's.
It
says
they
have
to
have
documented
experience
in
education,
but
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
a
length
of
time
for
documented
experience
or
education
on
it.
E
C
C
Senator
we'd
have
no
problem
looking
at
that,
because
there
is
nothing
specified
in
the
statute
on
that
and
once
again
we're
trying
to
help
individuals
that
are
experienced
and
have
education
to
get
where
they
can
get
their
permanent
license
through
their
program
and
through
some
apprenticeship
programs
that
the
contractors
work
with.
But
it's
a
question
of
being
able
to
get
people
in
the
field
to
work
on
some
of
these
projects.
C
E
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
underwood,
my
question
as
I
read
in
number
one:
we
talk
about
that.
An
elevated
contractor
shall
notify
the
department
when
a
contractor
has
a
shortage.
Could
you
help
me
with
the
definition
of
a
shortage?
Are
we
talking
about
the
percentage
of
people
who
are
available
to
work?
What
does
a
shortage
mean.
C
Well,
the
way
we
interpret
the
word
shortage,
sir,
is
that
there
are
inadequate
number
of
licensed
mechanics
to
do
the
work
that's
available
out
there
and
right
now
we
are
chuck.
Do
we
have
10
that
we
need
to
get
temporary
licenses
for
in
order
to
do
work
in
a
timely
fashion,
as
you
can
imagine,
with
elevator
work
when
an
elevator
needs
repair,
it
is
a
pretty
serious
situation,
particularly
when
you're
talking
about
ada
compliance
and
larger
buildings
that
have
lift
problems
to
make
sure
that
those
are
in
fully
functioning
status
and
and
senator.
F
C
Well,
I
don't
think
we've
done
it
in
terms
of
a
deficit.
I
will
tell
you
senator
that
this
is
language
that
we
drafted.
So
there
is
no
bad
reflection
on
lrc
staff
of
the
drafting
on
this,
I'm
legendary
for
bad
drafting,
and
we
would
be
delighted
to
work
with
staff
on
that
language
to
get
something.
That's
more
amenable
to
what
you're
asking.
A
You're
welcome
vice
chair
how
senator
howe
and
before
he
testifies.
I
I
forgot
to
mention
that
he
has
served
as
the
vice
chair
of
this
committee
and
will
be
chairing
the
meetings
of
my
absence
and
also
any
agenda
items
that
you
wish
to
have
considered
feel
free
to
consult
him
about
them.
Vice
chair
how.
A
G
These
temporary
contractors
would
be
under
the
parent
company's
eno
insurance
and
would
be
under
there.
Even
though
they're
not
working
with
direct
supervision,
they
would
still
be
under
their
umbrella
and
everything.
C
Currently,
we're
only
addressing
the
escalator,
I'm
sorry
the
elevators,
but
I
believe
it
would
also
apply
to
residential
elevators
and
escalators,
which
is
a
different
license.
All
together,
we
have
only
addressed
the
elevator.
C
I'm
not
aware
of
a
shortage
of
mechanics
for
escalators
and
and.
G
Does
this
do
the
changes
to
allow
these
temporary
workers
do
that?
Does
that
kind
of
help
us
get
more
and
more
contractors
into
our
fold?
Ultimately,.
C
Well,
it
certainly
helps
us
get
more
mechanics
into
the
fold
and
move
them
into
the
higher
pay
scales
where
they
would
go
from
essentially
a
helper
that
has
been
working
for
a
while
and
gaining
experience
in
education.
It
lets
them
move
to
the
mechanics
space
pay
scales
even
under
the
temporary
license.
Okay,.
G
And
someone
coming
over
like
that
working
on
a
temporary
license.
Does
that
take
a
full
three
years
you
would.
You
had
talked
to
me
about
something
with
a
three-year.
Yes,
sir,
walk
me
through
that
again
I
apologize
no.
C
G
C
C
Senator
what
we
have
looked
at
back
when
we
were
drafting
the
original
legislation
and
what
we'd
like
to
see
here
is.
We
would
expect
that
someone
would
have
a
minimum
of
years
experience
before
that
they
would
get
a
temporary
mechanics
license
and
then
they
could
work
through
typically
they'd
have
two
years,
and
then
they
could
work
through
to
take
the
exam
and
get
their
full
mechanics
license.
C
We
did
put
in
here
an
opportunity
for
a
renewal
if
someone
was
in
between
the
number
of
months
years
that
they
needed
in
order
to
get
them
to
that
examination.
So.
G
A
Senator
thomas
welcome
back
from
your
illness
and
the
floor
is
yours.
H
Well,
thank
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Actually,
I
didn't
feel
bad,
but
I'm
certainly
glad
to
be
back
actually
senator
howe.
I
answered
my
question
and-
and
I
think
I
think
somehow
it's
on
to
a
very
good
point
here.
It
takes
anywhere
from
three
to
four
years
to
get
a
license
and
if
you
have
a
labor
shortage
and
let's
say
you
have
someone
that
that
comes
through
and
just
has
one
year
of
experience,
but
you
need
that
person
as
a
temporary
individual.
H
I
don't
know
why
we
want
to
limit
it
to
one
additional
term.
It
seems
to
me
that
to
give
you
the
maximum
flexibility
that
you
need,
mr
underwood,
we
ought
to
at
least
go
to
two
additional
years,
just
to
give
you
the
maximum
flexibility,
so
we
don't
have
to
keep
coming
back
and
changing
the
statute.
A
We've
had
some
great
testimony.
You
know
senator
higdon's
right.
We
want
to
have
all
enough
specters
to
do
the
work,
but
we
also
when
we
get
it
on
elevator.
We
want
to
have
the
confidence
that
it's
working
right.
It's
a
lot,
a
lot
of
good
testimony.
I
want
to
ask:
is
there
anyone
here
opposed
to?
This
has
a
different
different
point
of
view
that
wants.
I
don't
see
anybody
signed
up,
but
I
just
want
to
always
want
to
make
sure
there's
somebody
here
with
a
different
point
of
view.
A
A
Committee,
the
next
thing
we
have
on
the
agenda
is
several
regulations,
and
some
of
you
probably
most
of
you
know
some
of
you
may
not
that
if
we
do
do
not
address
these
well,
actually
it's
kind
of
interesting
because
either
way
the
regulations
become
law,
but
I
always
like
to
put
regulations
on
the
agenda
in
case
there's
somebody
out
there
that
has
an
issue
with
it.
A
We
have
a
bunch
of
people
from
the
agencies
signed
up
telling
us
how
good
they
are,
and
and
that's
and
and
that's
good,
but
I
want
to
see
if
there's
anyone
here
that
has
concerns
or
opposed
to
the
regulation.
A
Is
there
anyone
here,
that's
opposed
to
regulations.