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We
have
made
a
habit
of
reading
the
charge
of
the
task
force
at
the
beginning
of
every
meeting,
so
I
shall
do
that.
At
this
point,
the
task
force
was
developed
to
take
a
wide
but
deep
look
into
the
functions
of
the
executive
branch
of
the
Commonwealth.
Specifically,
the
hope
is
that
we
will
be
able
to
go
cabinet
by
cabinet,
allow
them
to
come
in
and
explain
their
structure
from
the
top
down
and
how
they
function.
This
will
lead
to
further
conversations
on
how
each
cabinet
is
funded
in
their
budget
building
practices.
A
Additionally,
these
meetings
will
give
the
cabinets
the
opportunity
to
propose
to
the
legislature
future
reorganization
plans
and
any
of
the
proposals
aimed
at
increasing
efficiencies
that
require
legislative
action.
Overall,
the
task
force
should
produce
information
helpful
to
the
general
assembly
in
increasing
government
efficiency
in
the
2023
session
and
Beyond
very
well,
and
yes,
senator
may.
D
D
Will
definitely
miss
him.
He's
been
an
asset
to
Kentucky,
not
just
his
district,
but
all
of
Kentucky
and
I
always
thought
he
was
much
younger
than
me
because
he
looks
much
younger
than
me
in
better
shape,
but
he's
actually
older.
So
we
we
wish
him
well
in
his
retirement
well
deserved,
and
we
want
to
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
Senator
appreciate
that
well,
welcome
secretary,
why
don't
you
introduce
yourself
and
and
those
at
the
table,
introduce
themselves
and
the
floor
will
be
yours.
Thank.
F
Thank
you,
chair
Miller,
representative
Miller,
Russ,
Meyer,
Commissioner
of
Kentucky
state
parks.
Thank
you
for
having
us
here
today
and
I'll
Echo.
What
Senator
neimus
said.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
I.
Had
the
honor
of
coming
in
with
representative
Miller
in
January,
1
15
I
believe
we.
F
Together
and
then
I
got
to
sit
right
next
to.
F
C
F
E
Floors
here,
sir
well,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
Again.
We
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today,
Mr
chairman,
as
I've
said
before
the
meeting
at
this
may
not
be
new
news
for
you
as
having
been
a
former
member
of
our
cabinet,
but
but
things
do
change.
I've
seen
that
in
my
tenure,
I've
seen
it
last
week
as
much.
E
So
we
are
happy
to
be
here
today
to
explain
a
little
bit
about
how
we're
how
we
operate
as
a
cabinet
and
share
with
you,
the
PowerPoint
presentation
that
that
you
should
have
now
in
front
of
you
in
printed
form,
and
that
appears
on
the
screen.
E
The
mission
of
the
the
cabinet
is
to
support
and
promote
and
develop
Kentucky
Tourism,
Arts
and
Heritage
as
a
mechanism
to
Foster
economic
growth
and
education,
employment
for
our
communities
throughout
the
Commonwealth,
while
appealing
as
a
destination
to
a
diverse
audience
audience
at
home
nationally
and
internationally
and
I
think
a
lot
of
times.
E
You
know
we
forget
that
we
Market
tourism
not
only
to
people
who
are
non-kentuckians,
but
it's
very
important
that
some
of
our
best
customers
so
to
speak
are
kentuckians
and
we
found
that
out
during
the
pandemic,
as
people
chose
not
to
travel
Great
Deals,
they
still
wanted
to
go
somewhere
and
they
wanted
to
get
outside
and
Kentucky
offers
those
opportunities.
And
so
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
at
that
point.
E
Marketing
the
the
lakes
in
Western
Kentucky
to
the
folks
that
were
in
the
mountains
of
Eastern
Kentucky
and
vice
versa,
and
we
think
that
we
have
increased
the
awareness
and
the
appreciation
of
all
kentuckians
for
what
we
have
here
in
tourism.
E
The
overview
of
the
cabinet,
we're
dedicated
to
fostering
and
promoting
the
state's
Rich
Heritage,
as
well
as
continuing
our
long,
our
long
history
of
being
a
premier
travel
destination
and
we
serve
as
the
top
tourism
organization
and
agency
for
the
state.
But,
most
importantly,
we
work
with
a
lot
of
partners
partners
in
the
legislature,
Partners
in
communities
in
in
dmos
those
destination,
marketing
organizations
or
tourism
commissions
that
are
out
in
the
state.
E
And
we
do
that
through
marketing
and
Outreach,
and
then
also
we,
we
have
lots
of
partners
that
are
out
there
in
the
travel
industry
that
come
to
us
and
and
want
us
to
assist
them
in
in
learning.
E
Why
we
think
Kentucky
is
a
very
hot
destination
to
travel
to
the
cabinet
is,
is
very
diverse
and
I
guess
when
I
came
into
this
I
didn't
realize
how
diverse
that
it
was,
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
today
about
those
13
agencies
that
appear
on
the
screen
everywhere
from
the
Department
of
Fish
and
Wildlife.
E
The
Commissioners
here
from
Parks
all
the
way,
through
the
Kentucky
state,
fair
board,
which
is
what
has
one
of
the
largest
Exposition
centers
in
the
country
and
all
those
agencies
in
between
they
all
play
a
very
vital
role
in
the
promotion
of
Tourism
for
the
Commonwealth.
You
can
see
here
in
very
small
print.
Our
organization
chart
the
office
of
the
secretary
and
the
the
branches
that
we
have
in
it.
But,
more
importantly,
there
are
13
agencies
that
appear
in
our
cabinet
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
them
a
little
bit
today.
E
The
the
best
thing
about
these
13
agencies
is
how
collaborative
that
we
are.
Our
agencies
often
combine
with
with
each
other.
Some
of
them
are
similar.
Some
of
them
are
very
different,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
they
can't
collaborate
to
help
promote
Kentucky.
They
work
directly
on
projects
together
and
cross,
promote
through
different
campaigns
and
events.
E
Some
other
collaborative
efforts
include
the
Kentucky
Arts
Council
and
the
Department
of
Tourism
and
state
parks
teamed
up
for
a
collaborative
fun
in
the
sun
sweepstakes
that
we
had
over
the
summer
to
Market
travel
to
the
Kentucky
State
Park.
So
you
can
travel
to
the
state
park.
E
We
promote
that,
but
you
can
also
View
and
and
exchange
information
with
Kentucky
Artisans
Kentucky
state
parks
and
the
Department
of
Fish
and
Wildlife
Resources
have
continuously
worked
together
on
What's
called
the
Kentucky
Wild
program,
monarch,
butterfly
tagging
events,
conservation
efforts,
they've
also
worked
together
to
conduct
control
burns
for
Habitat
management
and
you'll,
see
many
of
those
Wildlife
areas
and
that
are
physically
near
or
within
state
parks.
E
The
Arts
Council,
the
Kentucky
historical
society
and
the
Kentucky
Heritage
Council
worked
together
to
create
and
to
plan
for
the
Kentucky
covid-19
Memorial,
which
will
be
dedicated
in
the
near
future.
This
past
year,
also
our
cabinet
teamed
with
wkdz,
which
is
in
Katie's
Kentucky
for
their
agritourism,
Edition
podcast,
and
you
know,
we've
found
that
agritourism
is
a
very
important
part
of
selling
Kentucky.
E
E
In
doing
that,
this
coming
season,
the
Kentucky
State
Parks,
The,
Artisan
Center
and
the
Department
of
Fish
and
Wildlife
will
all
have
segments
on
that,
and
the
department
of
fish
and
wildlife's
field
to
Fork
program
will
actually
present
a
a
a
a
television
segment
that
will
show
people
how
you
can
hunt
and
also
serve
and
eat
the
the
game
that
you
can
catch
and
can
or
that
you
can
bag
in
Kentucky
and
speaking
of
sponsorships.
The
the
cabinet
and
our
agencies
are
very
involved
in
art.
E
Sponsorships
Museum
sponsorships
I
was
telling
the
commissioner
just
a
minute
ago
on
Saturday
night,
I
was
at
the
Crawford
or
the
Barringer
Crawford
Museum,
which
is
up
in
Northern,
Kentucky
and
Covington
for
their
unveiling
of
the
white
Christmas
memorabilia
and
all
the
dresses
and
costumes
from
that
iconic
movie.
E
And
we
were
a
supporter
of
that
because
that
collection,
which
is
housed
it
travels,
but
it's
housed
primarily
in
Augusta
Kentucky
in
the
Rosemary
Clooney
house,
is
one
of
the
the
hottest
and
and
one
of
the
most
popular
travel
destinations
in
northeastern
Kentucky.
E
E
You
all
are
aware
of
that
that
one
percent
tax,
when
you
stay
at
hotels,
Etc,
that
helps
us
to
market
the
state
and
then
in
this
year
we
have
through
federal
funds,
I
had
a
total
of
92
million
I'm
sorry
yeah,
92
million
500,
000,
ARP
or
American
Rescue
plan
act,
funds
which
we'll
get
into
that
in
just
a
little
bit,
because
some
of
those
are
currently
ready
to
be
distributed
in
those
General
funds.
E
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
they're
distributed
by
agencies,
the
Kentucky
Center
for
African-American
Heritage,
150
000
through
the
through
the
general
assemblies
budget,
Friends
of
the
Holt
house,
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
was
also
designated
in
the
budget.
There
are
restricted
funds
in
our
cabinet.
That
is
that
that
one
percent
money
we
distribute
money
or
funds
to
the
regional
marketing
and
matching
program
which
is
set
up
by
Statute
and
there's
a
report
to
the
governor
in
lrc
that
occurs
each
year
by
September
1st.
E
We
were
talking
about
the
tourism
recovery
and
investment
from
the
the
arpa
money,
tourism
and
destination
marketing
organizations
through
the
general
assemblies
generosity
and
supported
by
the
governor,
that
that
was
a
75
million
dollar
price
tag.
E
In
addition,
a
half
million
dollars
to
the
Kentucky
Science
Center
in
arpa
money,
the
Kentucky
4-H
Foundation,
five
million
dollars
and
the
Louisville
Arena
Authority,
12
million
dollars
so
a
little
bit
more
on
the
the
arpa
dollars
and
some
familiar
faces,
I
I,
think
are
in
the
room
when
I
was
with
commissioner
manjit,
when
we
did
a
presentation
on
that,
the
arpa
money,
which
is
federal
dollars
that
were
allotted
by
the
general
assembly,
total
75
million,
and
it
was
divided
into
four
pools,
pool
number
one
or
they
call
them.
E
Federal
government
calls
them
tranches,
and
that
just
sounds
like
a
weird
name
to
me.
So
we
changed
it
to
pools.
Pool
number
one
is
15
million
dollars
from
marketing
and
promoting
tourism
in
Kentucky.
We
will
be
continuing
to
do
a
lot
of
the
Outreach
and
markets
that
tourism
has
not
necessarily
had
the
funds
or
the
ability
to
Market
in
pool
number.
Two
is
25
million,
distributed
to
tourism
commissions
from
marketing
individual
communities
through
Kentucky
that
pool
was
opened.
E
We
had
94
individual
entities,
dmos
and
some
fiscal
courts
to
handle
there,
tourism
marketing
for
their
communities
that
applied
for
that
25
million
and
I
would
say
sometime
this
week
we
will
probably
see
the
the
the
designations
go
out
in
that,
as
well
as
in
pool
number
three,
the
25
million
that
would
be
distributed
directly
to
tourism
commissions
for
attracting
meetings
and
conventions
and
then
pool
four,
that's
what's
called
The
partnership
for
multi-jurisdiction
collaborative
marketing
that
tranche
or
that
pool
of
money.
E
The
application
process
just
closed
and
is
under
review
right
now,
but
those
are
from
multi-jurisdictions.
In
other
words,
if
we
can
figure
out
how
Bowling,
Green
and
Corbin
can
do
a
multi-jurisdictional
marketing
program
and
I
will
tell
you,
there
are
some
very
creative
folks
from
what
I
have
seen
so
far
how
they
are
are
after
these
dollars.
But
again
these
are
vital
dollars
not
only
to
help
Kentucky
recover
from
the
pandemic
and
the
hit
that
was
taken
in
in
the
tourism
travel
industry.
E
Before
we
go
over
into
the
Heritage
Council
just
to
let
you
know,
there
were
some
additional
federal
dollars,
cares
act,
money
that
did
come
to
the
Department
of
Tourism
earlier
in
the
year,
I'm,
sorry
in
last
fiscal
year,
and
we
use
that
to
promote
Kentucky
as
a
diverse
travel
organization,
and
we
recently
got
our
return
of
investment
report
on
that
and
found
that
for
every
dollar
spent.
E
66
dollars
was
generated
in
economic
impact
and
that's
an
incredible
number
it's
bigger
than
we
normally
see
in
our
usual
Investments,
so
being
able
to
go
after
the
buses,
the
America,
the
American
bus
Association,
the
the
motor
coach
Market
to
be
able
to
Market
in
Canada
to
African-American
and
Latino
travel
to
lgbtq
travel,
etc.
Those
additional
dollars
have
given
us
some
real
needed
emphasis
in
areas
that
we
were
not
able
to
Market
to
before.
E
E
It's
a
it's
a
partnership
to
that
focuses
on
Kentucky's,
bourbon
industry,
and
it
will
help
Target
international
travels
to
this
Market,
because
bourbon
is
a
very
popular
reason
for
folks
to
come
to
Kentucky
and
it
targets
travelers
from
the
United
Kingdom,
Germany,
Canada,
India
and
Australia,
and
then
I
don't
want
to
forget
the
the
tourism
development
act
through
the
Finance
Authority
this
year
we
have
welcomed
13
new
tourism
development
projects,
nine
of
which
have
received
final
approval
totaling
over
300
million
dollars
for
project
investments
in
communities
across
the
state,
and
these
are
hotels
they
are.
E
Some
of
them
have
been
horse
racing
facilities,
Etc
and
it's
an
incentive
program.
That
really
means
a
lot
to
these
folks
who
are
looking
to
create
tourism
opportunities
in
Kentucky,
our
first
one
of
the
agencies
or
I.
Guess,
if
you
count
the
Kentucky
Department
of
Tourism,
the
Kentucky
Heritage
Council
would
be
the
second
one
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
the
Kentucky
Heritage
Council.
You
see
the
numbers
that
are
there
in
terms
of
General,
restricted
and
federal
funding,
State
funds
that
are
distributed
by
this
agency,
as
I
mentioned,
the
Kentucky
African-American
Heritage
commission.
E
Fifty
thousand
dollars
per
the
general
assembly
budget
and
the
American
Battlefield
trust
3.3
million,
and
that's
in
matching
funds.
E
E
The
Heritage
Council
uses
both
contracts
and
POS
by
the
way
in
accordance
with
45a.
So
that's
how
those
dollars
are
distributed.
E
The
historical
preservation,
tax
credit
program,
utilizes
preservation,
Rehabilitation
tax
credits
intended
to
service
Financial
incentives
to
encourage
private
investment
in
historic
buildings,
and
that's
the
tax
program
that
recently,
the
general
assembly
assisted
Us
in
raising
the
overall
program
cap
from
five
million
dollars
to
a
hundred
million
dollars
and
the
per
project
capped
from
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
10
million
and
that's
a
game
changer
in
this
industry,
and
we
really
expect
to
see
a
lot
of
historic
preservation
and
folks
taking
advantage
of
those
financial
incentives.
E
Finally,
under
the
Kentucky
Heritage
council
is
the
main
street
program,
and
this
is
a
unique
program
that
is
probably
the
gold
standard
in
the
nation
for
communities.
Currently,
there
are
26
Main,
Street
programs
in
Kentucky.
You
see
them
listed
here
and
the
communities
reported
in
2021
60.5
million
dollars
in
investment
in
downtown
commercial
districts
that,
by
doing
that,
they
reported
they
created
548
new
jobs,
130
new
businesses
and
201
historic
building.
Rehabilitation
projects
completed
our
next
agency.
E
That
I'd
like
to
point
out,
is
the
Kentucky
Arts
Council,
and
their
mission
is
to
Foster
environments
for
the
people
of
Kentucky
to
Value,
participate
in
and
benefit
from
the
Arts
one
of
their
Partners.
You
can
see
the
the
breakdown
in
general
restricted
in
federal
funds,
one
of
their
Federal
Partners
is
the
National
Endowment
for
the
Arts,
and
that
agency
funds
promotes
and
strengthens
the
creative
capacity
of
Kentucky's
communities
by
providing
Americans
with
diverse
opportunities
for
Arts
participation
and
again,
those
payments
are
also
done
in
accordance
with
45a.
E
Our
next
agency
that
I'd
like
to
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
is
the
Kentucky
Historical
Society.
Everybody
says:
oh,
that's,
the
History,
Museum
and
you're
right.
That
is
the
history
museum,
but
they
also
do
a
lot
more
than
that
as
well.
You'll
see
that
they
have
general
fund
and
restricted
fund.
They
do
not
have
any
pass-through
federal
funds
that
second
fund
that
restricted
fund
is
from
the
taxpayer.
E
E
The
Historical
Society
is
is
really
busy
also
with
some
things
that
are
coming
up
and
thanks
to
the
general
assembly,
who
created
some
additional
committees
and
commissions
in
the
past
couple
of
sessions,
they're
responsible
for
planning
the
Kentucky,
sester
Centennial
commission,
that's
a
fancy
way
of
saying
250
years
at
Fort
Herod,
and
also
the
American
250
sester
Centennial
commission,
which
will
celebrate
the
250th
anniversary
of
the
signing
of
the
Declaration
of
Independence.
E
Both
of
those
will
occur
upcoming
the
American
250
and
2026,
the
Harrisburg
sester
Centennial
Commission
in
2024,
and
the
Kentucky
State
Park
Centennial
commission,
also
in
2024,
when
the
state
park
system
will
be
a
hundred
years
old.
E
You
know
we
kind
of
think
about
State
Park
system
as
being
young
when
you're
talking
about
America
but
100
years
is
nothing
to
to
sneeze
at
our
next
agency.
That
is
involved
in
the
Arts
and
Heritage
component
is
the
Kentucky
Humanities
council,
with
the
assistance
of
the
National
Endowment
for
the
Humanities
and
private
contributions.
They
support
public
programs
and
the
humanities
throughout
the
Commonwealth.
E
They
receive
grants,
federal
grants
from
the
National
Endowment
for
the
Humanities,
and
they
have
allotted
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
of
that
so
far
to
rural
museums
in
Kentucky
to
assist
with
the
restoration
of
the
collections
that
were
damaged
due
to
the
Eastern
Kentucky
flooding
in
July
of
22.,
an
agency
like
Apple
shop
would
be
a
benefactor
of
these
pass-through
dollars.
E
You
may
be
aware:
the
humanities
council
is
celebrating
its
50th
Anniversary
this
year
and
it
serves
all
120
counties
that
delivers
more
than
fifteen
thousand
programs
and
reaches
more
than
5
million
people
through
its
efforts.
Most
people
know
them
through
either
the
Chautauqua
performances
that
they
have
across
the
Commonwealth
or
from
the
Kentucky
Book
Festival.
E
The
41st
annual
one
was
just
completed
the
first
weekend
of
or
actually
I
guess
it
was
the
last
week
again
of
October
and
this
year
some
of
the
speakers
included,
Wendell
Berry,
Brian,
Kilmeade,
Kentucky's
poet,
Lariat
Crystal,
Wilkinson,
Silas
house,
Pulitzer,
prize-winning
author
John
Meacham
and
many
more
and
it
was
very
well
attended.
It
was
held
in
Lexington
this
year
with
that
I'm
going
to
take
a
break
and
pass
you
to
the
guy
who
gets
to
talk
about
Kentucky's
finest,
the
Kentucky
State
Parks,
commissioner
Russ
Meyer.
F
Thank
you
secretary
and
thank
you,
chair
Miller.
We
appreciate
you
all
having
us
here
today
again
as
chair.
Miller
very
well
knows:
Kentucky
state
parks
serving
our
Commonwealth
in
this
seat
that
I'm
in
he
will
understand
a
whole
lot
of
what
I'm
getting
ready
to
explain
to
you
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
and
others.
The
Kentucky
Department
of
parks
had
not
had
a
reorganization
in
over
20
years
until
recently,
overall,
the
reorg
is
completely
budget
neutral.
F
F
In
addition,
the
state
naturalist
and
the
director
work
with
all
parks
to
provide
quality
programs
that
entice
visitors
to
come
back
through
memorable
experiences.
The
department
also
maintains
a
database
for
all
volunteer
organizations
and
the
department
now
directs
all
Trail
towns
in
the
Commonwealth.
The
Kentucky
Trail
Town
program
is
a
tourism
and
economic
development
initiative
designed
to
provide
a
strategic
plan
for
communities
to
capitalize
on
local
travel
opportunities.
F
Today
we
have
a
completed
15
of
17
lodges,
which
aren't
as
hard
to
get
to
as
our
campgrounds,
but
with
our
campgrounds
we've
completed
seven
of
29..
We
currently
have
six
campgrounds
in
progress
right
now.
At
this
point,
our
Kentucky
state
parks
play
an
essential
role
in
our
state's
emergency
response
efforts
during
the
pandemic.
F
The
array
of
services
provided
by
our
Parks
creating
an
opportunity
for
us
to
provide
necessary
resources
that
position
the
Commonwealth
at
advantage
for
fighting
the
virus.
Four
Kentucky
state
parks
provided
temporary
housing
for
First
Responders
front
line
health
care
workers
and
low
Acuity
patients,
utilizing
over
two
thousand
room
nights
as
a
low
Acuity
shelter.
F
The
December
11th
quad
State
tornado
was
the
worst
tornado
event
in
State
history
with
at
least
four
tornadoes
devastating
eight
Kentucky
counties
the
devastating
event
resulted
in
gov
our
governor,
declaring
the
State
of
Emergency.
The
emergency
declaration
ensured
that
Federal
funding
was
available
to
provide
emergency
resources
and
rebuild
our
Western
Kentucky
communities.
F
F
In
July
as
a
part
of
the
state's
emergency
response,
efforts
in
Eastern
Kentucky
for
Kentucky
state
parks
have
been
designated
to
provide
Emergency
Shelters
for
individuals
impacted
by
the
flooding
over
360
people
impacted
by
the
flooding
have
been
temporarily
housed
at
our
parks
in
Eastern
Kentucky.
Currently,
645
individuals
are
housed
in
320
travel
trailers.
65
of
those
travel
trailers
are
on
site
at
Jenny,
Wiley,
car
Creek
and
car
Creek
State
Park,
since
July
our
Park
staff
and
volunteers
have
been
working
with
the
American
Red
Cross
local
churches,
businesses
and
restaurants.
F
To
ensure
individuals
impacted
by
the
tornado,
have
flooding
have
basic
needs
for
food,
shelter
and
clothing,
the
department
of
parks,
utilizes,
General
and
restricted
funds
for
operating
only
we
do
not
disperse
any
funds.
However,
we
may
be
eligible
to
re,
receive
federal
funds
through
FEMA
and
other
federal
grants
used
exclusive,
exclusively
four
Parks
towards
the
Commonwealth's
emergency
efforts.
E
Thank
you,
commissioner
Myron.
If
I
can
just
add
a
PostScript
when
the
tornadoes
in
Western
Kentucky
occurred,
there
were
obviously
electricity
was
at,
and
people
were
literally
having
to
crawl
out
of
some
damaged
homes,
Etc
and
at
two
o'clock.
E
But
just
you
know
throughout
the
the
Commonwealth
is
that
our
Park
system
are
so
important
to
the
communities
that
they're
in
and
I
want
to
give
a
big
shout
out
when,
when
we
talk
about
our
folks
that
work
for
the
cabinet
or
in
the
tourism
industry,
our
Parks
employees
have
done
amazing
things.
E
They
have
gone
from
being
housekeepers
to
counselors
they've
they've
helped
to
take
care
of
pets
because
last
count
I
think
we
had
40
some
odd
dogs
and
25
cats
also
being
housed
at
state
parks,
because
people
didn't
want
to
leave
their
pets
when
they
lost
their
their
damaged
homes.
So
we
we
work
with
them
as
well,
so
I,
just
a
huge
shout
out
to
our
Parks
employees,
they're
out
there
in
the
trenches,
and
they
do
incredible
work.
E
The
remainder
of
the
the
presentation
we're
going
to
give
you
a
breakdown
of
our
remaining
agencies.
I
didn't
make
it
through
all
13
of
them
before
I
took
a
break,
they
received
General
funds
and
their
revenue
generating
agencies.
Now
these
revenues
and
the
different
agencies
come
from
things
like
hunting
and
fishing
license
fishing
licenses,
which
you'll
see
in
our
next
agency
event,
sales
campgrounds,
lodging
and
gift
shop
sales.
E
So
they
do
produce
a
a
nice
amount
of
Revenue
to
help
offset
some
of
the
expense
we'll
start
with
the
Kentucky
Department
official
and
Wildlife
Resources.
Their
conservation
and
Recreation
programs
are
second
to
none
in
the
country.
They
help
to
generate
tremendous
economic
benefits.
To
the
Commonwealth
from
hunting
and
fishing
and
other
Wildlife
related
Recreation,
they
produce
5.9
billion
dollars
in
total
economic
impact
and
support
70
000
jobs
in
haki,
and
we
always
teased
them
that
they
were
the
one
thing
during
the
pandemic.
E
That
saw
an
increase
in
participation
because
people
decided
they
wanted
to
go
out
and
hunt
and
fish
because
it
was
safe
to
be
outside
and
they
saw
a
huge
spike
in
licenses
and
admissions
to
to
their
areas
to
break
that
down.
Hunting
is
a
1.5
billion
dollar
industry
and
token
total
economic
impact,
creating
23,
000
jobs,
fishing,
1.2
billion
dollars
in
economic
impact,
creating
12
000
jobs,
boating
1.9
billion
dollars
in
total
economic
impact,
creating
15
000
jobs
and
Wildlife,
watching
1.5
billion
dollars
in
economic
impact
and
creating
over
19
000
jobs.
E
And
you
also
see
there
the
members
of
the
fish
and
wildlife
conservation
officers.
They
not
only
do
a
wonderful
job
at
with
wildlife
and
enforcing
regulations
there,
but
they're
the
first
people
called
on
along
with
our
park
rangers
in
these
devastating
tornadoes
and
floods
that
we've
had
to
be
able
to
respond
to
keep
people
safe.
E
We
send
out
surveys
after
people
visit
there
and
we
got
a
response
from
somebody.
That
said
this
is
the
nice
nicest
rest
area
in
the
United
States,
and
you
know
there's
some
truth
to
that,
because
it
did
take
the
place
of
a
rest
area
that
was
there,
but
it's
really
much
more
than
that.
E
People
will
stop
there
and
I
think
they
spend
more
time
than
they
expect
because
they
go
in.
They
see
the
the
arts
and
crafts
that
are
there
for
sale.
We
feature
and
support
hundreds
of
Kentucky
Artisans
and
businesses
by
purchasing
their
works
and
offering
them
for
resale
The.
Artisan
Center
sells
over
1.7
million
dollars
in
Kentucky
made
crafts.
E
It
will
have
an
average
of
250
000
visitors
each
year
and
about
between
two
and
three
hundred
motor
coaches,
which
that's
a
big
area
for
people
and
people
who
are
on
motor
coaches
come
out
and
they
shop,
which
is
good
for
for
our
economy,
but
they
also
eat
and
The
Artisan
Center
Cafe
offers
Regional
favorites
grilled
to
order
items.
They
will
do
box
lunches
if
people
don't
have
time
to
stay
and
eat
and
and
sell
them
to
the
groups
to
take
back
on
the
bus
with
them
and
they
feed
hundreds
of
people
per
month.
E
Next
is
the
Kentucky
Horse,
Park
and
I
like
to
refer
to
this
and
as
the
it's,
the
Disney
World
of
the
equestrian,
the
equestrian
Circle,
because
it
is
just
an
incredible
place,
whether
you're
a
fan
of
horses
or
you
are
just
a
tourist
it.
It
leaves
a
huge
impact
on
not
only
the
horse
industry
but
tourism
in
general.
It's
a
unique
attraction
that
celebrates
the
human
relationship
of
man
and
the
horse
through
education
exhibition,
engagement
and
competition.
E
You
all
know
a
lot
of
the
different
events
that
are
there:
the
the
Land
Rover
three-day
event
that
are
there.
We
just
completed
the
National
Horse
Show
and,
if
you
you
know
always
laugh
and
say,
if
you
didn't
get
to
see
it
in
person,
these
things
are
televised
as
well,
and
this
past
year
in
2021,
The
Horse
Park
welcomed
over
770
000
visitors
and
also
had
50
622
nights
in
their
of
camping
in
the
campgrounds
and
the
campground.
E
There
has
become
so
popular
that
we
don't
have
to
Market
or
advertise
it,
because
it
fills
up
on
its
own
and
the
programming.
If
you've
ever
been
out
there
for
Halloween,
it's
crazy,
you,
you
want
to
go,
see
it.
The
next
one
is
Kentucky
venues
or,
as
a
lot
of
us
call
it.
E
The
Kentucky
state,
fair
board,
business
and
Convention
travel
are
major
economic
influences
for
many
of
our
urban
communities,
and
two
of
these
state-owned
facilities
are
in
Louisville
in
the
Kentucky
Exposition
Center
and
the
Kentucky
International
Convention,
Center
and
they've
been
recognized
nationally
and
internationally
as
best-in-class
facilities.
In
fact,
the
International
Convention
Center
was
just
selected
as
one
of
the
Stella
Awards,
which
is
a
travel
industry,
standard,
Gold,
Award
winner
for
best
Convention
Center
in
the
Midwest.
E
For
the
second
year
in
a
row,
both
of
these
venues
hosted
204
events
in
2021,
their
key
economic
drivers
in
in
the
Louisville
area
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
they
have
returned
to
about
93
percent
of
pre-pandemic
levels.
Already,
and
you
know
all
the
the
prognosticators
said
it
would
take
probably
five
to
ten
years
for
convention
travel
to
return
to
where
it
was
and
we're
seeing
through
the
team
at
at
Kentucky
venues
a
return
much
quicker
than
that.
E
The
next
area,
Kentucky
performing
arts
or
as
I,
grew
up,
calling
it
The
Kentucky
Center
for
the
Arts
in
Louisville.
The
2021-2022
season
was
their
first
season
after
the
shutdown,
and
this
was
a
facility
that
literally
had
to
shutter
during
the
darkest
days
of
the
pandemic.
This
last
year,
they
reported
an
attendance
of
nearly
250
000
visitors,
holding
375
events
and
collecting
over
25
million
dollars
in
Revenue
and
I
like
to
also
point
this
out
in
July
and
August
of
this
year,
they
had
a
first
at
the
Center
for
the
Arts.
E
The
touring
production
of
Jagged
Little
Pill,
which
was
Tony
award-winning,
show
on
Broadway
needed
a
place
to
go
to
Stage
itself
for
the
tour,
because
tours
are
smaller
than
the
Broadway
Productions
and
to
work
out
the
the
technical
aspects
and
they
chose
the
Kentucky
Center
for
the
Arts.
So
they
spent
the
biggest
part
of
two
months
there
doing
that,
and
then
they
debuted
the
touring
production
in
Louisville,
two
nights
that
were
sold
out
widely
acclaimed,
and
then
they
went
to
Dallas
for
prime
time.
E
One
of
the
things
we're
finding
is
not
only
there
in
at
the
Center
for
the
Arts
in
Kentucky
Performing
Arts,
but
also
that's
happening
with
the
show
Beetlejuice
at
the
Carson
Center
in
Paducah,
the
first
of
December.
It's
staged
for
a
national
tour.
There
they
go
through
Tech,
they
perform
One
Night
in
Paducah,
and
then
they
will
hit
the
road.
And
so
we
are
finding
a
market
for
these
facilities
that
keep
us
in.
In
the
mind
of
Broadway
producers.
E
The
Kentucky,
the
Governor's
School
for
the
Arts,
is
a
program
of
Kentucky
performing
arts
and
it
began
in
1987
and
it
brings
young
people
to
from
across
Kentucky
together
to
work
with
professional
instructors
and
guest
artists.
These
two
this
year
they
did
two
three
week
sessions.
They
were
both
held
at
the
University
of
Kentucky
they're,
free,
they're,
highly
competitive
and
many
scholarship
opportunities
await
as
a
result
of
that,
and
thanks
to
some
arpa
Esser
funds,
that's
an
education
program.
E
Just
in
time
for
the
35th
anniversary
of
the
the
School
for
the
Arts
in
2022,
we
were
able
to
double
the
class
size,
so
we
did
250
in
the
first
session,
which
was
the
normal
amount,
but
now
we
were
able
to
do
another
250
for
a
total
of
50.
I'm,
sorry
for
a
total
of
500
student
in
that
program
this
summer.
E
The
next
slide
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
and
I,
know
it's
small
print.
If
you're
looking
at
the
screen.
This
is
our
capital
projects
budget.
Many
of
our
agencies
have
Capital
project
pools
and
line
item
renovation
projects,
and
we
appreciate
that
through
the
budget
process,
those
projects
that
are
listed
do
much
needed
renovation
and
deferred
maintenance,
which
is
a
word
that
the
commissioner
is
very
familiar
with
projects,
not
only
in
Parks
but
in
all
of
our
agencies.
E
We
operate
over
1.5
million
square
feet
of
event
and
Convention
space
and
finally
58
Wildlife
Management
areas
which
total
over
161
000
acres
of
land,
and
all
of
that
is
managed
under
the
auspices
of
these
13
agencies
that
do
a
tremendous
job
under
the
cabinet.
So
with
that,
that
concludes
our
presentation.
I
would
like
to
introduce
to
you
a
couple
other
folks
who
are
behind
me.
The
chief
of
staff
and
the
person
who
tries
to
keep
me
in
line
sometimes
successfully
Yvonne
board.
E
Yvonne
is
the
chief
of
staff
in
the
secretary's
office,
our
Director
of
Finance,
Melissa,
Brewer
and
BR
Masters,
who
is
our
legislative
liaison
and
also
with
us
today,
is
Ron
vanover
and
Ron
is
the
Deputy
Commissioner
of
parks
and
I.
Don't
think
that
there
is
a
park,
a
trail
or
a
historic
site.
I
won't
say
that
you've
worked
at,
but
I
know
you've
been
there
and
visited
and
know
the
ins
and
outs.
So
we
have
a
very
seasoned
team
that
I'm
very
proud
of
Mr.
A
A
Well,
actually,
we
probably
do
have
a
number
of
cemeteries
on
our
properties
now
that
I
think
about
it,
thinking
down
to
Lake,
Cumberland
I
think
we
have
Cemetery
down
there,
but
nonetheless,
thank
you
all
for
your
presentation.
It's
I
think
it's
20
close
to
30
pages,
so
I'll
just
throw
it
open
for
the
group.
Any
questions
Daniel
will
be
on
the
lookout
and
otherwise
I'll
just
go.
I
have
a
number
of
questions
myself.
So
representative
McCool,
you
get
the
first
shot.
H
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
I
was
just
sitting
there,
thinking
how
we
were
blessed
and
to
live
in
Kentucky,
with
with
all
that's
available,
stay
to
visit
and
and
the
opportunities
there
there
isn't
anything
that
you
I
mean.
There's
no
reason
that
you
can't
say
I
have
nothing
to
do
where
I.
H
You
probably
don't
have
to
go
very
far
to
see
something
different,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
all
that
out
and-
and
we
really
are
we're
blessed
and
people
that
come
to
visit
us
are
blessed
too.
So
you
know,
we've
even
got
an
uptick
lately
unfortunate
with
Laura
Lynn's
passing,
but
there's
a
lot
of
Tourism
coming
down
that
way
too.
So,
but
thank
you
for
everything,
you're
doing
I'm
just
curious.
H
You
know
one
of
the
statements
that
chair
made
earlier,
what
it's
opportunity
for
you
to
share
what
what
you've
got,
but
also
opportunity
to
share
the
things
that
you
may
need
and
I
was
curious.
Do
you
have
a
strategic
plan,
Like
A
Five-Year
Plan,
on
on
a
I'm
thinking
of
where
we
need
to
go
from
here?
Oh
one
thing:
if
you
like
to
have
somebody
maintaining
all
this,
that's
critical,
that's,
but
also
what
we
got
to
do
to
to
help
achieve
those
goals
and
who's
responsible
for
that.
H
E
You
I'm
going
to
toss
it
to
Russ
on
that,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
there
are
strategic
plans
for
all
of
our
agencies
and
they
fall
under
the
auspices
of
those
executive
directors
and
they
are
constantly
being
updated
and
again,
as
as
I
pointed
out
in
several
of
these,
the
legislature
has
been
very
generous
to
the
tourism
cabinet
in
in
the
last
couple
of
sessions
in
order
to
to
help
us
be
able
to
maintain
our
facilities
and
also
to
create
new
opportunities.
F
I'd
love
to
thank
you
representative.
Thank
you.
F
You
representative,
McCool,
but
within
in
the
next
two
weeks,
we're
gonna
be
making
a
presentation
to
the
a
r
committee
based
on
Appropriations
that
General
Assembly
has
directed
to
Kentucky
state
parks,
which
is,
is
a
great
opportunity
not
only
for
the
general
assembly
for
Kentucky
state
parks,
tourism
for
our
Commonwealth,
because,
as
we
you,
you
know,
representative
Miller
will
know
being
in
local
government
through
over
the
years
and
in
this
position
we
hit
the
recession
in
2008,
and
that
was
about
the
time
we
really
needed
to
reinvest
some
serious
money
in
Parks.
F
F
F
It's
30
40
years
past
us
and
you
know
it's
going
to
be
quite
costly,
but
you've
stepped
up
to
the
plate,
made
tough
decisions
to
allocate
an
amount
of
money
that
is
going
to
help
us
in
in
and
it's
in
need-
and
we
thank
you
all
for
that,
but
we'll
be
making
that
presentation
within
the
next
two
weeks.
We're
finalizing
that
this
week.
So
looking
forward
to
that
and
I
think
representative
McCool,
you
are
on
that
committee.
I
believe
so
stay
tuned.
I
guess
is
how
I
would
answer
that
that
question.
H
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
on
slide,
four
about
when
you're
listing
the
cabinet
agencies.
That
I
was
looking
for
things
that
have
been
new
in
the
last
15
16
years,
since
I
was
integrally
involved
in
that,
and
the
Kentucky
Center
for
African-American
Heritage
is
that
from
an
administrative
standpoint,
are
there
General
funds
involved
in
that.
E
The
center
for
African-American
Heritage
is
administratively
tied
to
the
cabinet.
There
is
a
line
item
in
the
budget
that
we
are
allotted
in
general
funds
that
goes
to
them,
for
maintenance,
upkeep
and
and.
E
A
Okay,
I
want
to
make
sure
yes
I
assume.
That
would
be
the
case,
so
they
get,
they
do
get
general
fund
now
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts
or
the
Performing
Arts.
As
we
say
they
get
I
know
they
got
Capital
money.
Do
they
get
general
fund
money
as
well?
No,
sir,
they
don't
okay,
so
they
are
a
little
bit
different.
Then.
E
That
they
are
and
again
somewhat
again
administratively
tied,
especially
since
the
the
state
owns
the
building
right,
but
that's
the
the
dollars
that
they
get
from
the
state
are
in
maintenance
pool
money.
E
So
again
this
year
you
all
were
very
generous
to
them,
because
the
front
stairs
to
the
Center
for
the
Arts
after
it
was
opened
in
1983
are
crumbling
and
they
were
gonna
have
to
block
it
off
and
tell
people
they
had
to
come
in
the
back
door
and
you
all
were
very
kind
and
gave
the
dollars
and
the
repairs
on
that
have
begun.
C
Well,
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
One
of
the
neat
things
I
did
this
summer
is
we
took
a
staycation
and
we
went
to
14
state
parks
that
we've
never
been
to
in
a
week's
time.
It
was
busy
it
was
busy
and
we
and-
and
we
took
a
day
in
Louisville
just
doing
like
tourist
stuff,
and
it
was
really
an
enjoy
enjoyable.
Time
saw
things
we'd
never
seen
before
we
learned
to
check
the
weather
before
we
went
to
the
gorge
and
make
sure
you
could
actually
see
something.
C
B
C
Commissioner
Meyer
is
that
you
know
the
biggest
thing
every
Park
I
went
to
it
stuck
out
like
a
sore
thumb
was
just
pool
problems,
I
mean
even
some
of
them
had
you
know,
yellow
tape
like
there
was,
it
was
almost
embarrassingly
too
obvious
and
I
know
you
were
doing
it
for
for
safety
to
keep
people
out
of
that,
but
is
the
is
the
objective
to
get
all
those
pools
back
up
and
running
or
is
is?
Is
the
pool
business
going
away
and
we
are
we
trying
to
move
away
from
pool
business?
C
F
But
that
that
is
in
our
proposal
too
I
believe
we
have
Tim
pool.
We
had
10
pools
down
this
summer,
yeah
10.
and
take
a
General
Butler
yeah,
where
that
is
the.
C
B
F
It's
shut
down
and
it's
that
deferred
maintenance
where
we
haven't
been
able.
We
haven't
been
reinvesting
and
haven't,
had
the
budget
to
take
care
of
them,
you're,
giving
us
that
opportunity
to
take
care
of
and
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
take
care
of
those
this
upcoming
year.
Yes,
they
will
be
taken
care
of
now.
We
have
to
look
at
at
what
options
are
best
are:
are
pools
the
best
option
for
a
certain
park
or
is
a
splash
pad
a.
C
F
Option
for
the
longevity
you
know:
pools
have
a
a
lifespan,
that's
much
shorter
than
a
splash
pad,
and
what
a
splash
pad
do
so.
F
Right
there
you
go
there,
you
go,
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
we're
going
to
dive
into
within
the
next
two
weeks,
and
so
yes,
that's
in
our
plan
very.
C
Good
and
just
one
little
follow-up
with
that
so
and
if
this
is
kind
of
defer,
a
question
on
deferred
maintenance
in
general,
so
I
know
that
y'all
go
to
conventions
and
you
get
together
with
your
like
leaders
in
other
states.
So
would
you
consider
are
most
States
really
far
behind
on
deferred
maintenance?
Where
would
you
find
a
sign
of
100
to
zero?
Where
would
you
find
Kentucky
compared
to
other
states?
Are
we
really
far
to
the
zero
side?
Are
we
in
the
same
basket
as
a
lot
of
Southern
other
Southern
States
right.
F
Well,
I've
been
in
this
position
two
years
and
you
know
have
found
out
where
a
lot
of
our
state
parks
are
I
have
been
to
every
state
park
that
we
have,
and
you
know
I'd
like
to
know
what
14
that
you
went
to.
F
Of
here,
but
you
know,
somebody
like
Ron
Van
over
our
Deputy
Commissioner
who's,
been
in
parks
for
almost
30
years,
may
be
able
to
answer
that
question
a
little
bit
better
Ron.
Do
you
want
to
try
to
try
to
answer
Senators.
I
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
and
congratulations
on
your
upcoming
retirement.
Very
much
appreciate
you
over
the
years.
Our
swimming
pools.
As
you
know,
representative
Miller
evolve
every
four
to
five
years,
whether
it
be
with
the
Earth's
rotation,
whether
it
be
with
maintenance,
I
would
put
us
in
the
middle
of
the
road
with
rest
of
the
states.
I
A
I
Graham
Baker
Act
I
think
is
what
created
that,
but
we
are
working
diligently.
But
when
you
have
these
big
swimming
pools
and
you've
got
the
Earth's
rotation,
you've
got
water.
Constantly
you've
got
thousands
of
visitors
each
year.
It's
a
little
bit
different
from
your
own
swimming
pool.
So
I
do
believe
in
commissioner
Meyer
secretary
Barry
and
others
that
we
have
to
look
into
the
future
of
what
we're
going
to
do
and
I
think
splash
pads
are
evident.
Look
what
happened
at
EP,
Tom
Sawyer
will
be
put
a
splash
pad
in
on
one
certain
segment.
C
E
If
I
could
also
add
that
you
know
several
of
these
pools,
while
they
are
on
State
Park
property,
they're
also
important
to
the
communities
that
they
serve.
If
you
go
to
Cumberland
Falls
State
Park
I
mean
that
is
a
community
pool
as
much
as
it
is
a
state
park
and
in
fact,
as.
E
F
And
with
that
said,
you
know
just
an
example
of
of
Blue
Licks
five
years
ago:
I
believe
they
Commonwealth
put
700
and
750
000
in
that
pool,
and
it's
shut
down
right
now,
wow.
So
that's
a
it
that,
for
example,
is
a
complete
redo
or
it
could
serve
better
as
a
splash
padded
decision.
We
need
to
make
for
the
betterment
of
that
Park
that
Community,
you
know
and
the
future
of
it.
F
A
A
E
A
The
on
the
arpa
slides-
yes,
sir,
that
was
a
big
number
92
million.
A
E
Arpa
does
have
and
I'll
just
make
a
general
overview
comment
does
have
some
pretty
distinct
regulations
where,
where
the
dollars
can
go,
for
instance,
you
know
we
had
some
people
who
that
came
to
us
and
said
well.
This
would
be
great,
for
you
know,
festivals,
well,
festivals
by
the
regulation
are
not
eligible
to
receive
arpa
money,
so
it
it.
E
You
know
in
Kentucky
we
have
the
75
million
is
going
to
in
order
to
get
it
out
into
communities,
destination,
marketing
organizations,
the
tourism
commissions
and-
and
we
had
to
get
a
legal
opinion
on
that
one
little
T
little
C,
because
in
some
of
the
the
communities,
the
fiscal
courts
act
as
the
tourism
commissions
for
their
County
and
they
are
eligible
and.
F
One
project
that
we
were
involved
in
as
as
parks
and
representative
McCool
knows
this
project.
All
too
well
is
in
in
painful
it
Paintsville
Lake
we
partnered
with
Johnson
County
Fiscal
Court.
They
had
arpa
money
to
go
towards
a
Ada
fishing,
pier,
which
is
a
unbelievable
project,
700
000
project.
So
there
are
partnership
opportunities
in
in
our
communities
where
we
will
come
in
and
facilitate
and
help,
and
you
know
in
in
within
our
Park
system.
F
So
that's
that's
a
special
project
I
know
to
representative
McCool
and
and
that
entire
Community
there
it's
going
to
be
a
huge
addition
to
that
Park.
So,
okay,.
A
A
G
The
first
time
that
they
will
receive
General
funds,
I'm
sure
we've
all
heard
that
they
don't
usually
have
a
general
fund
appropriation.
It
is
a
one-time
allocation
to
support
the
Kentucky
Cumberland
Forest
conservation
program
and
that's
the
most
information
that
I
have
on
it,
but
I'm
happy
to
get
more
information
if
you
need
it:
okay,
okay,
all.
G
Is
in
in
the
budget
language,
it
is
a
one-time
allocation
as
far
as
I've
heard,
all.
A
Right
very
good,
thank
you,
Melissa
members
or
any
other
question
I.
The
only
last
question
I
had
was
Mr,
commissioner,
and
that
was
camping.
Are
we
still
on
the
reservation
system,
so
the
electronic
reservation
system
was
that
still
we.
A
I
I
can't
recall
if
it
was
commissioner
Ward
or
I,
but
it.
F
If
I
will
chair,
Miller
I
do
want
to
throw
a
nice
compliment
out
to
you.
We
had
a
meeting
planning
for
this
150
million.
Putting
our
plan
together
and
one
of
our
directors
was
talking
and
said.
You
know,
commissioner
Miller
sent
me
a
nice
handwritten
Note
One
Time
thanking
me
just
for
everything.
I
did
and
she
said.
I
still
had
that
in
my
desk
today.
So
oh.
H
C
Just
a
couple
of
things
you
mentioned
I'm,
always
interested
in
the
Kentucky
venues
when
we
go
to
the
State
Fair
commissioner
back
always
gives
a
great
overview
and
I'm
always
amazed
at
how
busy
that
place
is
and
how
quickly
they
turn
things
over
and
how
many
staff
members
they
have.
You
know,
of
course,
we're
there
right
during
the
state
fair,
but
I
was
just
curious.
C
You
said
you
were
back
93
percent.
Do
we
have
any
concerns
about
crime
and
safety
in
downtown
Louisville
now
or
how
is
that
being
overcome
and,
what's
being
done
by
the
convention
center
there
to
alleviate
that
and
get
bookings
up?
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
E
E
They're
they're
efforts
have
kind
of
been
rewarded,
but
yes,
they
they
have
put
a
Safety
and
Security
plan
together.
At
that
level,
you
can
imagine
that
they
it's
constantly
being
tweaked.
We
know
that
there
were
some
purported
challenges
during
the
state
fair
as
well-
and
you
know,
the
good
news
was
that
our
State
Fair
attendance
was
back
up
to
big
numbers.
E
Pre-Pandemic
numbers,
that's
great.
The
bad
news
is
when
you
get
a
group
of
people
together,
sometimes
somebody's
going
to
act
out,
but
I'm
very
impressed
when
I
hear
them
report
on
the
plans
from
a
security
and
safety
standpoint
and
and
I
believe
that
that
that
is,
that
that's
being
rewarded
by
these
increased
bookings
that
are
in
the
especially
in
Kick
downtown
in
Louisville.
C
And
just
to
follow
up
on
that,
so
when,
when
this
occurred,
when
the
pandemic
started-
and
we
had
the
challenges
downtown
in
Louisville,
I
mean
basically,
you
know
we
had
a
lot
of
cancellations.
What
was
done
with
those
losses?
I
mean
how
how
did
y'all
book
those
accounting
wise?
Do
you
even
have
a
number
to
be
able
to
to
to
to
even
put
down
on
paper
what
your
losses
were
there?
C
Is
that
something
that
the
fair
board
has
gone
through
extensively
and
has
a
number
on
and
was
that
were
those
opportunity
losses
or
were
they
real
dollar
losses?
Well,.
E
I
would
tell
you
that
anytime,
you
shut
something
down,
there's
going
to
be
real
dollar
losses
involved,
what
they
were
able
to
do,
and
this
says
a
lot
about
the
staff
at
the
at
Kentucky
venues
and
especially
their
sales
staff,
is
when
they
found
a
group
who
called
them
and
said:
look
because
the
pandemic
we're
going
to
cancel
our
conference
and
instead
of
just
saying
I'm,
sorry
that
you
had
to
do
that.
E
They
said:
okay,
we
can
move
you
to
this
date
and
and
they
were
able
to
do
that
in
many
of
those
instances.
So
it's
what
I
guess
I
would
call
deferred
revenue.
B
E
The
group
is
still
coming
a
lot
of
them
and,
in
fact,
we're
seeing
them
begin
to
return
now
that
we're
roughly
two
years
out.
B
E
I
but
but
I'm
sure
that
there
were
dollar
losses
that
could
be
attributed
to
that
I
mean
I,
know
that
we
we
ended
up
with
cost
overrides,
but
you
know
from
from
Finance,
because
the
revenue
wasn't
there
for
the
expense
for
the
fair
board.
I
I
would
be
happy
to
get
I
know
they
have
that
number
I,
just
don't
want
to
quote
a
wrong
number
I'd
be
happy
to
get
it
to
you.
E
C
That'd
be
great,
you
could
follow
up
on
that
and
then
finally,
can
you
comment
on
the
ncsl
convention?
That's
going
to
happen
like
is
that
next
year,
I
understand
it
is
yeah
I
heard
that
was
like
going
to
be
the
biggest
one
of
the
biggest
conventions
in
Louisville
that
that
year
or
maybe
ever
is
that.
Do
you
know
much.
E
About
that
I
I
have
heard
it's
been
discussed
in
in
the
meetings
the
National
Council
of
state
legislators,
late
jurors,
and
it
is
going
to
be
a
keystone
convention
for
the
city.
You
know
next
year
really
the
next
two
years
promise
when
you
think
about
the
PGA.
When
you
think
about
that
convention
there
there
are
a
lot
of
big
things
that
are
going
to
be
happening
in
in
Louisville
and
in
addition
to
that,
we've
got
the
National
Convention
of
the,
and
it
occurs
only
every
two
or
three
years.
E
I
should
know
that
I'm
Episcopalian,
but
the
Episcopal
Church
USA
has
selected
Louisville
as
their
city
as
well
and
I
believe
it's
next
year,
so
a
shout
out
to
them.
But
yes,
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
preparations
that
are
going
on
they're,
utilizing
many
different,
many
different
venues
around
the
city
to
host
people
and
and
Hospitality
venues.
E
It's
obviously
in
multiple
hotels
across
the
community
as
well
I
remember
when
they
brought
in
the
was
it
the
southern
legislative
conference
that
was
there
and
they
put
up
the
world's
biggest
tent
I.
Think
on
the
the
grounds
and
Waterfront
Park
I
was
working
at
the
Derby
Festival
at
the
time
and
I
was
drooling
for
a
tent.
That.
C
C
I
know:
we've
talked
a
lot
about
Louisville
and
I'll
just
make
this
final
comment
I.
Just
during
the
summer,
when
I
did
visit,
Louisville
we
were
downtown,
walking,
felt
very
safe
and
for
the
most
part
it
was
clean.
I
will
say
that
I
was
really
impressed
with
kind
of
the
new
lou
area
and
and
went
to
a
soccer
match
recently
and
went
to
that
new
stadium,
which
was
awesome,
I
mean
it's
just,
was
a
very
cool
venue
for
soccer
and
things
of
that
nature.
C
E
E
The
Louisville
City
and
the
Lynn
Family
Stadium
that's
been
built
and
in
fact
I
mean
you
know:
Lucid
played
in
the
National
Championship
last
night
in
San
Antonio,
so
Unfortunately
they
didn't
win.
But
you
know
you
have
a
game
there.
They
had
the
women's
cup
for
the
second
year
in
a
row
this
summer
at
that
stadium
and
there
were
eight
teams,
four
from
the
U.S
and
four
from
Europe
and
and
Asia.
So
it's
it's
an
incredible
venue
and
also
a
big
shout
out
and
I.
C
E
A
E
A
And
generally,
we've
not
been
having
people
come
back
to
us.
We
did
I
think
the
first
time
but
physically
the
only
follow-up
I
would
have-
and
this
is
kind
of
an
old
question
that
has
been
bouncing
around
and
that
is
you
have
a
lot
of
land
with
the
fish
and
wildlife
operates.
B
A
Got
a
lot
of
land
that
Parks
operates,
some
of
which
I
think
is
on
nature.
Preserve
State
nature
preserves.
Is
there
an
administrative
rationale
that
you
could
just
determine
why
that
is
kept
separate
as
opposed
it
seems?
Like
you
know,
management
of
a
lot
of
land
would
fit
well
with
nature,
preserves
and
and
state
parks
and
the
Fish
and
Wildlife
lands
so
that,
just
from
and
again
we're
looking
for
ideas
that
we're
are
there
reorgs
that
you
need
that
would
be
outside
your
cabinet
that
would
affect
outside
your
cabinet.
E
Sure
and
I
will
I
will
check
on
that.
I
know
some
of
it
and
as
you're
well
aware
from
your
experience
there,
some
of
it
is
that
they
are
National.
E
Wildlife
preserves
and
also
you
know
that
many
of
our
state
parks
are
leased
from
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
and
you
know:
I
I've
learned
all
kinds
of
things
that
we've
even
got
one
at
Burnside,
that
the
Army
Corps
owns
up
to
750
feet
and
then
everything
Beyond
750
feet
up
is
State
Property,
so
I
I
haven't
quite
figured
out
how
you'd
ever
claim
a
deed
on
that
one.
But
yeah
I
think
a
lot
of
it
is
because
of
the
nature
of
some
of
these.