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From YouTube: Task Force on Local Government Annexation (6-30-23)
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Meeting Start 00:00:00
Attendance Roll Call 00:00:08
Discussion of Current Annexation Laws from the Prospective of Cities and Counties 00:01:46
A
A
A
Thank
you
and
welcome
everyone
to
the
first
task
force
on
annexation
and
I.
Do
apologize,
Madam
Clark
just
wanted
to
welcome
everybody
to
this
first
meeting
and
and
have
just
a
moment
to
say
a
few
things.
I
just
want
to
reassure
everybody
on
behalf
of
me
and
Robbie
that
there
are
no
predetermined
outcomes
when
it
comes
to
this
task
force.
But
there
are
a
few
goals
that
we
have
kind
of
set
for
this
task
force
throughout
the
interim,
that
is,
to
bring
cities
and
counties
together
to
discuss
this
important
issue.
A
So
with
that
being
said
on
our
agenda,
we're
going
to
kind
of
X
Out
item
two,
which
was
the
discussion
of
the
moratorium
that
was
set
forth
in
Senate
Bill
141
that
will
be
covered
by
our
presenters
today
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
introduce
our
presenters
Don
Kelsey,
a
City
attorney
for
this.
The
City
attorney
for
the
city
of
Henderson
and
Steve
gold,
the
county
attorney
for
the
county
of
Henderson
for
our
presentation
today.
The
floor
is
yours:.
C
Opportunity
when
chairman
Dixon
and
chairman
Mills
requested
that
we
come
to
speak
to
you
all
the
time
they
asked
us
to
give
an
overview
of
annexation
law
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
They
asked
us
to
make
our
presentation
neutral
so,
for
those
of
you
old
enough
to
get
the
reference,
Steve
and
I
are
going
to
be
Joe
frog,
eggs.
Just
the
facts.
D
Came
in
somebody
said
this
is
the
Henderson
Love
Fest
2023.,
so
we're
glad
to
be
here
for
that
and
also
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
were
asked
to
do.
This
is
probably
because
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
annexation
issues
in
Henderson,
County
and
I.
Think
Don
and
I
actually
learned
a
lot
as
we
were
researching
for
this
presentation.
C
So
when
we
look
at
Municipal
annexation
law
in
the
state
of
Kentucky,
it's
primarily
found
in
chapter
81,
a
of
the
Kentucky
revised
vacuums,
but
before
we
go
through
those
I
can't
want
to
point
out,
because
I
do
know
that
we
have
a
couple
Representatives
who
represent
areas
of
the
Louisville
Metro
Louisville
Jefferson,
County,
Metro
Government.
There
is
a
slight
difference
in
their
annexation
procedures.
C
Oh
sure.
Thank
you
got
it.
Thank
you
that
there
is
a
uniqueness
that
they
have
that
other
home
rule
cities
do
not
have
currently.
If
a
city
in
the
Louisville
Jefferson,
County,
Metro
Government
wishes
to
Annex,
they
do
need
to
make
that
request
to
the
full
legislative
body.
Then
that
legislative
body
has
a
period
of
time
in
which
it
needs
to
respond
if
it
doesn't
respond
and
it
can
go
forward
with
the
annexation,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
point
out.
There
is
a
change
in
the
law.
C
That's
hurting
in
July
next
year,
2024
that
the
city
that
would
like
to
Annex
in
property
within
the
Metro
Government
can
do
so
without
going
first
to
the
legislative
body.
If
it
gets
a
petition
of
66
percent
of
the
voters
that
are
contained
in
that
area,
so
that
is
a
unique
point
of
law
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
all
knew
so.
Yes,
thank
you.
Maybe
you
should
Advance
the
slides
so
when
the
city
is
considering
territory
in
which
he
might
want
to
put
Annex
in
the
city
must
meet
certain
statutory
requirements.
C
One
of
those
requirements
is
that
the
territory
intimate
adjacent
to
or
contiguous
to
the
city
limits.
Now
for
years
there
was
a
question
as
to
what
that
adjacent
and
contiguous
anger
really
meant,
but
the
court
finally
gave
us
a
clear
answer
in
the
city
of
Lebanon
case,
and
what
that
case
found
was
that
who
meet
that
requirement?
The
city,
the
territory
coming
into
the
city,
to
be
addict,
merely
ink
who
touch
the
boundary
of
the
current,
the
current
boundary
of
the
city,
or
only
be
separated
by
a
rogue
or
a
river
hamethea.
C
The
adjacent
requirement,
one
of
the
things
that
the
court
found
was
that
there
is
no
requirement
anywhere
in
the
law,
whether
it
be
statutory
or
case
law
that
the
city
shape
be
regular
or
natural,
or
particular
it
just
needed
to
meet
that
requirement.
It
needed
to
touch.
When
we
look
at
the
contiguous
and
adjacent
standards.
C
We
also
sometimes
have
corridor
annexations
corehore
annexation
is
really
the
annexation
where
there
is
a
thin
strip
of
land,
usually
a
rogue,
a
highway,
which
is
the
only
link
between
the
the
current
city
and
then
the
larger
area
that
is
going
to
be
Annex
generally
Corridor
annexations
are
just
favored
by
courts.
Unless
there
is
a
municipal
purpose,
the
municipal
purpose
can't
just
mean
contiguously.
It
has
to
have
a
concrete
or
tangible
Municipal
purpose.
C
The
latest
guidance
that
we
actually
have
on
that
came
from
attorney
general
Cameron
in
his
2020
AOG
opinion
for
the
City
of
Carrollton.
In
that
case,
City
of
Carrollton
wanting
to
Annex
in
a
highway
that
contained
that
Corridor
contained
near
utilities
and
and
Target
General
Cameron,
said
yes,
that
that
was
a
valid
Municipal
purpose,
because
the
utilities
were
there
at
the
time
that
it
was
real
and
it
was
present
and
it
wasn't
speculative
or
hypothetical.
D
Yes,
as
dawn
said,
there
are
different
ways
to
do
the
corridor
annexation
and
in
some
situations
you
can
use
Lake
Shoreline
Rivers,
easements,
utility
easements
and
in
some
situations
by
using
that
easement
they
avoid
annexing
the
road.
So
it
remains
a
County
Road
and
is
subject
to
County
maintenance,
but
it
goes.
The
city
goes
down
that
easement
to
get
to
the
annexed
part.
The
target
annexation,
yeah.
C
C
The
second
thing
once
we
get
through
the
first
standard
of,
is
this
land
contiguous
and
adjacent.
Then
the
next
question
that
the
statue
requires
the
city
to
answer
is:
is
the
land
being
annexed,
Urban
and
character?
Is
this
Urban
property,
or
is
it
going
to
be
suitable
for
Urban
Development
without
unusual
or
unreasonable
delay
and
I
can
give
you
a
real
world
example
of
this?
That's
going
on
in
Henderson
right
now,
two
years
ago
the
city
of
Henderson
purchased
a
property
that
was
adjacent
to
the
city
limits.
C
C
We
have
the
ribbon
cutting
actually
in
September
we
found
out
yesterday,
which
will
bring
350
jobs
to
Henderson,
but
the
point
of
that
is
to
try
to
explain
to
you,
even
if
the
land
itself
doesn't
look
Urban
when
it
is
and
again
the
standard
is
suitable
for
Urban
Development
without
unreasonable
delay.
So
that's
usually
population
density
if
it
can
be
used
for
commercial,
industrial,
institutional
or
governmental
use
in
the
land,
and
that
is
how
we
can
meet
that
requirement.
That's
in
the
statue
so
the
things
that
the
land
is.
C
Then
we
also
have
to
look
to
see
what
the
land
is.
Not
the
territory
proposed
to
me.
Annex
cannot
lie
within
the
boundaries
of
another
city.
It
cannot
do
that,
so
the
city
of
Henderson
could
not
Annex
in
any
property
that
lies
within
the
city
of
Corydon,
which
is
our
next
closest
city
in
Henderson.
So
when
a
city's
looking,
they
have
to
make
sure
that
the
boundaries
don't
interfere.
C
Also,
the
land
cannot
be
in
an
agricultural
District
that
was
formed
pursuant
to
krs-262-850
and
it's
the
agricultural
district
and
conservation
act.
So
if
that
land
has
been
designated
that
that
land
is
not
right
for
annexation
and
cannot
be
brought
in
and
then
the
last
general
rule
is
that
no
part
of
the
territory
proposed
to
be
annexed,
May
lie
in
another
County.
So
if
the
city
of
Frankfort
right
here
would
like
to
Annex
in
property,
it
has
to
look
at
contiguous
property
in
Franklin
County.
C
But
if
it
happens
to
be
on
the
border
of
Scott
County,
it
cannot.
It
cannot
Annex
in
that
property
from
Scott
County.
Now
with
so
many
things.
There
are
exceptions
to
the
rules,
and
geography
sometimes
makes
an
exception
to
that
rule.
So
KRS
ae1
415
provides
for
cities
that
currently
lie
within
two
counties
to
be
able
to
Annex
property
in
a
third
County.
If
that
city
owns
utility
infrastructure
in
that
county
is
probably
very
familiar
with.
City
of
Corbin
city
of
Corbin
lies
within
two
counties.
C
So
if
a
city
property
that
they're
looking
at
annexing
meets
all
of
those
requirements,
then
it
has
the
decision
of
which
pathway
to
annexation
the
most
common
pathway.
Annexation
is
actually
consensual,
annexation,
97
of
all
annexations
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
In
the
last
three
years
have
been
consensual,
annexations
I've
been
blessed.
This.
D
C
C
Do
want
to
say
here
because
I
I
think
this
is
important
to
know
that
cities
can
contract
for
consent
to
annexation
in
exchange
for
City
Services
and
those
contracts
can
find
Future
Property
Owners
if
they
are
recorded
with
the
county
clerk
and
it
can
be
found
in
the
chain
of
title.
So
I
can't
want
to
make
you
aware
just
because
a
city
provides
services
immediately
doesn't
mean
that
the
city
will
immediately
Annex
that
property.
C
C
First,
you
have
to
have
the
first
ringing
of
an
intent
to
ax
organs
in
that
organ
it
says
what
property
the
city
wants
to
Annex.
Why
they're
looking
at
Annex
it
give
a
meet
and
bound
description
of
that
property.
Afterwards,
all
those
property
owners
that
are
in
that
area
receive
notice.
The
city
is
required
to
provide
them
notice
as
a
copy
of
that
ordinance
and
there's
a
time
frame
for
that.
C
To
put
this
question
on
the
ballot
and
that
publication
has
to
happen
twice.
It's
not
just
once
it's
twice
after
60
days.
If
no
petition
is
received
by
the
mayor
opposing
the
annexation
or
requesting
it
be
placed
on
the
ballot,
then
the
city
can
go
forward
with
the
ringing
the
annexation
ordinance
ringing.
C
So
it's
not
like
the
city
fails
and
the
city
keeps
going
for
five
years.
They
are
coming
no
more
non-consensual
annotation
for
that
property.
But
of
course,
if
the
annexation
passes
on
the
ballot,
then
the
city
passes
the
annexation
ordinance
and
goes
forward.
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
if
a
city
receives
a
valid
petition,
the
city
can't
go
back
and
change
its
mind
and
repeal
the
intent
of
annex
the
intense
Annex
organ
that
will
go
on
the
ballot,
so
just
to
make
clear
that
a
city
can't
circumvent
that.
C
For
mouth,
consensual
and
non-consensual
annexation,
there
are
a
few
final
steps
that
the
city
has
to
do
to
make
sure
that
the
annexation
is
valid.
Of
course,
notify
the
the
property
owners
and
the
city
must
also
deliver
a
copy
of
the
annexation
organs.
The
map
and
the
list
of
properties
with
the
names
and
addresses
for
the
property
own
versus
County
Clerk
within
60k.
C
There
are
some
outlying
annexation
rules
that
I
wanted
to
touch
on
and
first
before,
I
read
this
slide
and
I
actually
made
a
note
just
to
read
the
slide,
because
it's
so
difficult
to
do,
but
I
do
want
to
say
in
Kentucky.
Most
industrial
annexations
are
consensual,
because
the
standard
for
a
non-consensual
industrial
annexation
is
extremely
high
and
it's
really
not
doable
because
of
zoning
requirements.
When
we
just
when
we
zone
for
manufacturers
for
industry,
we
don't
put
them
in
residential
areas.
You
know.
That's
not
good
planning
and
modern
planning
will
never
allow
that.
C
Well
in
KRS
81a
510,
it
provides
a
method
for
non-consensual
annexation
of
territories
that
do
contain
an
industrial
plan,
and
it
requires
that
the
territory
meeting
Annex
is
has
enough
racing.
Voters
is
equal
to
50
percent
of
the
plants
Workforce
the
file
the
previous
year.
So,
if
you
think
about
that,
it's
not
just
the
plan.
The
plan
is
not
just
the
thing
that's
being
annexed.
The
area
that
it
has
to
be
Annex
non-continentually
has
to
be
large
enough
that
you
have
enough
residue
registered
voters
to
vote
in
a
potential
petition
that
it
meets.
C
50
percent
of
the
employees
that
work
there,
so
that's
a
pretty
high
standard
like
I,
said:
that's
why
most
Industrial
annexations
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
are
consensual,
but
I
think
want
to
let
you
know
that
that
is
an
option
that
lies
out
there.
A
couple
of
other
relevant
statues,
they're
A1A
427,
imposes
an
additional
requirement
on
a
city
annexing
territory
that
contains
the
utility
infrastructure
owned
by
another
city.
C
Krs-81
a490
also
preserves
the
rights
of
utilities
and
an
area
annexed
by
a
city,
and
all
that
means
is
that
annexations
does
not
affect
utility
territories
and
I
actually
have
an
example
of
that.
The
property
we
just
talked
about
the
Pratt
property.
That
property
on
the
west
side
is
actually
served
by
Henderson
Municipal
Power
for
electric,
but
on
the
east
side.
Next
to
the
420
bypass
is
served
by
big
rivers
in
Kennedy,
the
Electric
Co-op,
so
the
territory
lie
actually
is
through.
C
That
property
and
where
the
mill
and
the
corrugator
are
currently
being
built,
that's
actually
being
serviced
by
the
big
rivers
in
the
rural
Co-op,
the
kindergy
there.
So
just
because
we
Annex
in
that
property
that
didn't
change
that
territory,
Henderson
Municipal
Power
couldn't
move
that
line
over
to
take
in
that
whole
territory
and
that's
what
KRS
81a490
preserves.
C
So
the
next
one
is
one
that
you
all
are
probably
very
familiar
with.
Is
Senate
Bill
141,
which
established
temporary
annexation
procedures
in
your
all's
last
legislative
session,
I'm
going
to
go
through
this
I'm
going
to
get
the
Highlights
but
I'm
sure
that
you
all
are
very
familiar
with
these
details
but
beginning
on
March,
1st
cities
can
only
complete
an
annotation
that
was
targeted
before
March
29th
and
they
can
only
start
new
annexations.
C
If
there's
an
opportunity
for
a
substantial
economic
development
that
would
be
impeded
if
a
parcel
of
land
was
not
annexed
in
our
case
paper.
How
to
have
the
the
fire
protection,
because
it's
such
a
large
fire,
it
it
being
it
could
be
within
the
city
limits
it
couldn't
locate
outside
the
city
limits.
C
Annexation
has
been
extended
through
the
last
few
years
to
allow
those
that
are
harmed
by
the
annexation
to
contest
the
legality
of
annexation,
including
adjoining
property
owners
where
there
there
are
no
residents
of
the
land.
So,
where
you
know,
there's
no
one
that
could
vote
on
the
non-continential
annexation,
except
through
Senate
Bill
121
that
are
allowing
County
to
challenge
annexations
counties.
Don't
have
an
automatic
statutory
right
to
challenge
unless
they
own
some
of
the
property
in
the
annex
property
in
the
annexation.
C
D
Yeah
to
that
point,
there's
a
couple
of
different
pieces
to
standing.
There's
there's
standing
to
to
oppose
it
at
the
beginning
during
the
process
and
then
they're
standing
to
challenge
in
court
counties
previously
had
no
standing
or
no
codified
standing
to
be
able
to
challenge
it.
As
the
process
was
going
through,
they
only
had
standing
to
challenge
it
after
the
annexation
occurred
and
then
they
could
go
to
court
if
they
owned
property
within
the
annexed
area.
Just
a
little
bit
strange.
C
C
That
needs
to
be
rezoned,
but
there
is
a
procedure
that
if
a
city
would
like
to
zone
property
or
get
a
proposed
zone
for
property
in
between
the
intent
to
Annex
and
the
final
annexation
ordinance
now,
this
would
only
mean
gone
conceptual
annexations
that
they
can
go
ahead
and
get
a
zoning
while
they're
waiting
for
the
full
annexation.
Of
course,
that
zoning
would
only
become
effective
if
the
annexation
was
affect
him.
C
If
not,
then
it
would
revert
back
in
whatever
County
Zone
was
currently
on
it,
foreign
taxing
requirements
after
the
after
the
annexation,
the
burden
of
Taxation
must
be
uniformed
throughout
the
city,
so
those
people
coming
into
the
city
through
annexation
will
be
subject
to
the
same
taxes
as
the
other
citizens.
But
to
that
end
the
city
also
has
to
assume
all
liability
to
attack
in
the
annex
territory.
C
And
to
that
point
we
we
have
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
city
services
are
available
and
that
we
have
the
city
services
serve
our
resident
in
that
area,
whether
it
be
Public,
Work,
Services,
fire,
Services,
EMT
Services
through
our
fires,
department
and
I
hit
one
to
say
a
lot
of
times.
People
say
fire
services
and
they
think
that's
just
for
finding
fires,
but
in
cities
now
most
firefighters
are
in
fact
EMTs
and
our
First
Responders,
and
so
they
provide
a
service
that
is
needing
I'm.
C
My
mother
is
a
widow
and
when
my
father
passed
away,
she
lived
in
the
county
and
she
moved
to
the
city
because
she
understood
that
city
services
were
she
as
she
aged.
She
was
hugging
me
more
city
services,
and
so,
when
we've
had
the
call
for
an
ambulance,
the
fire
service
is
the
first
one
to
arrive,
and
that
is
EMT.
C
D
We
don't
we
don't
deal
with
with
those
particular
issues
a
lot.
One
of
the
things
that
Senator
Mills
asked
us
to
do
was
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
about
revenue
and
taxing
with
regard
to
both
cities
and
counties.
Of
course,
you
all
know
this.
The
the
three
main
ways
that
a
lot
of
cities
and
counties
are
able
to
get
their
revenue
is
through
property
taxes
and,
of
course,
with
property
taxes.
D
Both
cities
and
counties
are
limited
in
increasing
their
revenue
through
property
taxes
due
to
so-called
Senate
Bill
44
or
House
Bill
44
limitations,
which
are
KRS
132017
and
68
245..
That's
the
that's
the
four
percent
statutory
increase
there
without
referendum,
and
then
there's
occupational
license
taxes
or
occupational,
license
fees,
payroll
net
profits,
gross
receipts,
things
like
that
and
insurance
premium
taxes.
Now
both
of
those
taxes
are
ones
that,
with
some
exceptions,
we'll
get
into
both
cities
and
counties
can
do
occupational
and
insurance
taxes
require
crediting.
D
D
So
just
to
give
you
some
context,
this
is
not
particularly
applied
or
not
not
uniform
when
it
comes
to
occupational
license
fees
across
the
counties
as
I
discussed
when
occupational
license
fees
are
imposed
by
a
county
greater
than
30
000,
it's
capped
at
one
percent
and
it
requires
that
crediting
for
any
City
fees.
So
what
you'll
see
here
is
that
nine
counties
are
grandfathered
in
through
different
exemptions.
D
Those
counties
that
are
grandfathered
in
include
Boone,
Jessamine,
Kenton,
Campbell,
Boyle,
Clark,
Marshall,
Nelson
and
Scott,
and
those
are
all
different
exemptions
within
the
statute.
I'm
not
going
to
get
too
deep
into
that
and
Dawn
was
able
to
this
map
will
show
you,
cities
that
have
occupational
license
fees.
Now,
we'll
put
one
caveat
here:
the
map
you
see
since
data
wrapper
that
we
were
using
here
did
not
have
city
limits
in
it.
D
These
are
zip
codes
and
an
approximation
of
the
Cities,
but
it
does
give
you
an
idea
of
the
Cities
within
the
counties.
When
you
look
at
those
two
different
slides
and
then
with
regard
to
insurance
premium
taxes,
krs-91a
.080
requires
all
but
Three
Counties
to
Credit
City
insurance,
premium
taxes
against
the
county,
Levy
they're,
those
those
three
grandfathered
in
or
Anderson,
Fulton
and
Washington-
and
you
can
see
those
colored
in
here
and
then
of
course,
Fayette
and
Jefferson
are
unique
as
well,
and
this
shows
you
an
idea
of
cities
again.
D
This
is
zip
codes,
not
City
Limits,
but
cities
that
are
imposing
insurance
premium
taxes,
and
so
now
those
cover
the
three
main
types
of
Revenue:
that
cities
and
counties
use
and,
of
course,
that
crediting
issue
comes
up
when
there's
annexation
and
becomes
a
discussion.
There
are
other
Revenue
options,
but
in
reality
most
cities
and
counties
aren't
getting
a
whole
lot
of
money.
Most
of
these
are
minuscule
for
for
most
counties.
D
We've
got
Bank,
Bank
franchise
fees,
transient
room
tax,
those
are
dedicated
to
tourism,
so
they're
just
a
flow
through
from
the
city
or
county
alcohol,
regulatory
fees
in
cities
under
20,
000
or
counties
that
don't
have
cities
above
20
000,
911
fees.
Again,
those
are
are
dedicated
as
well
and
then
other
types
of
of
user
fees
such
as
you
know,
sanitation,
something
along
those
lines.
D
So
I
know
I.
I
went
awfully
quickly
through
my
part,
but
I
also
understand
that
it
is
Friday
and
right
before
a
holiday.
So
we
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
here
and
lay
out
some
of
the
law
that
applies
in
this
area
with
regard
to
annexation
and
how
the
how
the
revenue
works
there.
If
you
all
have
any
questions,
we're
certainly
open
to
answering
all
of
those
that
we
can.
A
E
Just
I
know,
with
occupational
taxes
that
if
the
county
has
an
occupational
tax
and
the
City
annexes
generally,
there
is
a
an
offset
and
a
credit.
What
how
does
that
work
with
an
insurance
premium
tax
if
the
county
had
an
insurance
premium
tax
and
the
city
had
an
occupational
tax
it
with
those
two
stack
or
would
there
be
a
credit
for
the
city,
occupational
tax,
against
the
insurance
premium
tax,
their.
E
F
A
G
The
I
want
to
start
with
the
occupational
tax.
There
is
a
differentiation
between
County
size
and
so
I'm
going
to
use
my
hometown
and
Clay
County
Manchester,
and
then
you
can
take
two
or
three
counties
around
me
because
they
were
on
the
brink
of
that
thirty
thousand
thresholds,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand.
This
is
right.
The.
F
G
It
is
under
thirty
thousand.
So
if
the
city
were
to
Institute
an
occupational
tax,
there
would
not
be
a
dollar
for
dollar
offset
and
they
would
basically
a
Manchester
resident
would
be
paying
or
not
necessarily
resident
a
Manchester
worker,
because
it
doesn't
matter
where
your
residence
is.
It's
where.
D
G
D
It
does
require
for
the
crediting
in
those
situations
where
it's
over
30
000,
but
there
are
counties
that
are
not
required
to
credit,
Boone
and
Jefferson
I'm,
sorry,
Boone
and
Jessamine
Kenton
and
Campbell
and
Boyle
Clark,
Marshall,
Nelson
and
Scott.
Now,
Knox
County
there's
an
issue
there
that
would
have
been
grandfathered
in
based
on
the
2000
census.
D
However,
in
two
thousand
to
thirty
thousand
population
was
not
specifically
based
on
the
census
that
year,
so
in
a
lawsuit
brought
by
the
city
of
Barberville,
the
courts
ruled
the
county
was
over
30
000
prior
to
enacting
the
fee.
Therefore,
the
credit
was
applied
for
Barbourville.
So
later,
lawsuits
determined
that
crediting
did
not
apply
to
the
city
of
Corbin,
because
the
city
did
not
collect
the
tax
in
Knox
County's
portion
in
of
the
city.
D
G
That's
well
in
any
County
where,
again,
it
is
not
the
place
of
residence,
but
the
place
of
employment
that
you
are
under
population
of
thirty
thousand.
It
is
the
ability
for
the
city
and
the
county
to
pass
an
occupational
tax
which
would
be,
in
effect,
a
two
percent
tax
on
the
worker
if
they
were
in
the
city.
D
G
Yes,
my
question
about
that
comes
back
to
pose
this
because
it
seems
like
people
similarly
situated
would
have
to
have
be
similarly
treated
by
taxes
so
based
on
population.
What
is
the
legitimate
differentiation
that
a
smaller
County
actually
will
have
a
heavier
tax
burden
than
a
larger
County
would
based
on
the
place
of
employment?
That
to
me
seems
to
be
somewhat
of
a
problem
of
equal
application
of
the
law
upon
the
individual
or
potentially,
what
would
be
called
an
equal
protection
argument.
G
D
It's
yeah
I
was
going
to
say
we
needed
to
call
President
drivers,
but
it
it
appeared
from
what
I
was
able
to
see
that
the
original
intent
was
of
that
statute
was
a
grant
of
authority
to
counties
over
30
000
to
be
able
to
impose
these
these
fees
by
referendum,
and
it
originally
pertained
to
counties
over
50
000.
Actually,
then,
in
1986,
the
requirement
to
Levy
by
referendum
was
removed
and
the
requirement
to
credit
was
added,
so
the
bill
passed
I
believe
it
was
with
one
vote
in
in
the
house.
D
So
what
you
had
is,
is
you
had
counties
over
30
000,
granted
a
specific
authority
to
do
something
capped
at
one
percent
requiring
crediting,
but
then
the
courts
by
saying
that
counties
under
thirty
thousand
had
the
ability
to
do
it
under
home
rule.
It
turned
68.197
actually
from
a
statute
that
granted
authority
to
larger
counties
into
a
restriction
on
larger
counties
which
it's
a
weird
way
to
get
there.
But
that's
that
appears
where
it
ended
up.
G
G
C
G
C
C
Is
the
municipal
purpose
real
at
the
time
they're
not
measuring
miles
they're
measuring
the
purpose,
and
if
the
purpose
and
the
purpose
is
generally
utilities-
I
mean
we
can
talk
about
other
stuff,
but
really
it
water
lifts
is
water
lines,
sewer
lines,
sewer,
lift
stations,
those
are
generally
the
municipal
purposes
in
the
corridor
annexations,
and
so
that
is
really
what
courts
are
going
to
consider
and
one
of
the
things
that
attorney
general
Cameron
said
is
it
has
to
be
real?
It
can't
be
speculate
him.
C
It
can't
mean
we're
going
to
put
in
my
sewer
line
that
that
Municipal
purpose
has
to
exist
at
the
time
on
the
annexation
and
one
of
the
things
about
foreign
extensions
people
often
are
you
know
like?
Oh,
you
know
that
that's
a
that's
a
weird
way
of
doing
it,
but
if
you
think
about
it,
it
kind
of
is
beneficial
for
the
people
who
are
outside
the
corridor,
because
if
they
don't
want
to
be
part
of
the.
H
C
Part
of
that
land
is
less
than
Urban
in
nature.
Then
they
have
the
right
to
remain
out
of
the
city.
It's
not
forcing
non-consensual
annexation,
and
so
generally,
it's
going
to
benefit
the
people
who
are
by
the
courtyard,
as
well
as
the
property
at
the
end
of
the
court
or
that's
being,
and
you
know
generally
annexation,
at
least
in
our
experience.
Annexation
actually
helps
the
county
as
a
whole.
C
C
But
for
us
we
have
350
new
jobs
coming
in
to
Henderson
and
what
our
monitor
is
is
rising
time
to
help
All
Ships
and
in
our
situation
that
annexation
has
an
annexation,
has
helped
the
county
as
a
whole,
because
it's
bringing
in
so
many
new
jobs
and
really
for
Henderson.
So
many
of
those
people
who
are
coming
in
the
land
available
for
residential
right
now
is
really
in
the
county.
C
It's
not
the
city
where
we
don't
have
that,
but
it's
not
a,
but
your
question
was
was:
are
the
courts
looking
at
at
a
particular
geographical
and
recognize
also
that
the
key
geographical
is
also
limited
by
the
statues
that
they
remain?
You
can't
go
outside
your
county.
You
can't
go
outside
your
county.
You
can't
go
to
another
city,
so
if
you're
following
like
in
Henderson
Highway
60
young,
according
to
our
annexation,
you
couldn't
get
to
the
guy
City
on
highway,
60.,
so
you're,
also
living
here
in
the
court
of
relaxation
with
that
as
well.
D
I've
learned
when
it
comes
to
looking
at
counties
in
these
things,
if
you've
seen
one
County
you've
seen
one
County.
Okay
and
that's
I
mean
that's,
that's
really
it's
a
little
bit
different
everywhere
and
what
you're
talking
about
is
is
asking
about
whether
the
courts
have
said
you
know
how
far
is
too
much
or
whatever.
In
fact
before
Don
and
I
sat
down,
we
were
looking
at
Pulaski,
County
and
there's
I,
think
four
or
five
different
cities
there
and
they
all
have
different
quarters.
D
D
That
area
was
in
the
county
and
you
know
had
the
county
done
a
whole
lot
of
bonding
or
done
incentives
or
or
done
a
lot
of
things
to
get
Pratt
paper
in
and
then
you
know,
two
or
three
years
down
the
line
the
city
annexed
it
that
obviously,
would
have
had
more
of
an
impact.
Henderson
tends
to
work
on
things
on
the
front
end
and
deal
with
those
issues
up
front,
and
obviously
you
know
all
counties
are
affected
by
the
insurance
premium
tax
if
there's
annexation.
D
So,
for
example,
in
that,
in
that
Pratt
situation,
when
you
know
a
700
million
dollar
complex
is
being
annexed
in.
Obviously
that
is
you
know
only
one
of
the
entities,
the
city
or
the
county
is
going
to
be
receiving
the
benefit
of
that,
but
but
you're
right
that
the
even
though
the
courts
say
they
disfavor
it.
A
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
court
cases
end
up
approving
those
corridor.
Annexations.
G
It
is
pretty
much
the
city,
there's
always
exceptions
to
that
rule,
but
if
there
is
and
that
cooperation
is
needed
to
have
the
Industrial,
Development
or
expansion
because
there's
not
generally
the
ability
for
a
county
to
open
up
its
own
water
and
sewer
system,
first
of
all,
Financial
second
of
all
years
of
building
and
developing
and
laying
lines
so
that
that
that
cohesiveness
does
work
well.
But
when
they're,
basically
I
think
what
you're
saying
no
sewer?
No
water,
no
need
for
fire
protection.
G
C
E
Thank
you
to
what
extent
I
guess
as
far
as
I
can
think
of
a
specific
example
that
happened
in
my
district,
where
municipality
literally
annexed
up
to
the
back
porch
of
a
couple
of
residents
that
had
you
know,
I,
guess
kind
of
a
farm
with
a
couple
hundred
acres
that
did
not
want
to
be
in
the
city
and
I
think
in
fact,
they
even
tried
to
pull
a
camper
and
live
in
it.
So
they
can
vote
against
it
and
and
took
it
to
court
and
lost.
E
C
The
city
of
Lebanon
case
said
that
it's
not
you
know,
cities
have
the
right
to
decide
what
their
limits
are,
especially
when
it's
consensual
annexation
and
in
the
city
of
Lebanon
case.
One
of
the
arguments
against
the
annexation
was
that
the
city
had
intentionally
left
out
some
parcels
of
land
that
might
have
objected
and
might
not
have
consented
to
it
and
the
court
said
that's
within
the
city's
purview.
C
If
the
city
says
you
know,
we
we
want
this
parcel
of
land
and
this
parcel
of
land
will
is
going
to
be
allowed
to
remain
agricultural,
because
that's
what
the
landowners
wanted,
then
the
city
give
the
landowners
the
right,
and
that
kind
of
you
know
gives
the
property
right
to
the
individual
who
owns
their
property.
Well,
I!
Guess
this.
D
D
Situation
exactly
and
it's
as
dawn
said
that
that
city
of
Lebanon
case
pretty
much
said
shape,
doesn't
matter
right.
They
can
be
weird
fingers,
or
you
know,
oddly
shaped
as
long
as
the
city
can
articulate
that
Municipal
purpose
or
has
some
sort
of
contiguity
with
regard
to
either
easements
or
something
along
those
lines
to
be
able
to
hang
their
hat
on.
Basically,.
C
As
CIS
has
come
in,
GIS
is
now
address.
Specific
GIS
is
so
sophisticated
gal
that
when
those
calls
come
in
now,
if
you've
seen
the
screen
and
I
know,
Union
County
has
the
same
GIS
as
when
we
work
with
them
on
it
as
well,
the
giant
system
it
comes
on
and
it
saves
County
and
who
to
call
it.
Actually,
you
know
who
what
the
radio
frequencies,
what
the
toe
outs
are.
So
that
is
not
the
issue.
It
used
to
be
good.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
I
think
central
wheeler.
In
a
little
bit
of
response
to
your
comment,
I
think
when
there's
significant
portions
of
agricultural
land
involved,
they
could
go
into
the
process
of
doing
the
agricultural
District
that
would
prohibit
the
annexation.
It's
not
a
direct
consensual
versus
non-consensual
discussion
of
the
resident
of
the
property
create
the
agricultural
District,
which
then
precludes
the
annexation.
Yeah
agricultural
property.
C
A
At
this
time,
I
want
to
thank
you
both
for
that
presentation,
neutral
opinion
on
this
issue
and
explaining
the
facts
of
of
how
we
got
here
and
and
kind
of.
What's
what's
going
on
in
our
Commonwealth
now
and
we'll
see,
we
are
blessed
in
Henderson
to
have
both
of
you
serving
us.
So
thank
you
with
that.
We
will
move
into
announcements.
A
A
We
may
potentially
have
a
segment
during
this
task
force
where
we
can
call
upon
you
folks
to
come
in
and
tell
those
like
you
heard
today
we
heard
from
Henderson,
but
we
would
like
to
hear
some
of
your
issues
as
well
from
from
the
judges,
cities,
Mayors
and
counties
with
that
I
will
let
the
members
know
that
there
is
some
additional
info
in
your
packets
that
that
is
not
part
of
the
presentation
that
was
put
together
by
our
staff.
It
is
the
role
of
counties,
Municipal
annexation
and
it
is
from
nearby
states.
A
F
I
Jonathan,
you
said
everything
that
I
wanted
to
say.
Just
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everybody
knew
that
this
was
available,
because
our
staff
has
put
quite
a
bit
of
work
in
here
to
know
so
we
know
what
they're
doing
in
Tennessee,
what
they're
doing
in
Indiana
and
just
to
have
that
I
will
mention.
As
representative
Dixon
said,
our
plan
for
this
interim
July
and
August
we're
still
kind
of
open
on
what
who
and
what
will
be
at
our
meetings
here.
F
So
that's
what
we
were
basically
soliciting
stories
and
instances
from
around
the
state.
As
president
Stivers
mentioned,
Farm
Bureau
has
expressed
some
concern
and
we're
going
to
invite
them
to
come.
So
if
there's
other
organizations
outside
of
caco
and
KLC,
because
we
already
have
scheduled
September
for
Keiko
to
be
in
and
give
their
side
on
annexation
and
positives
negatives
and
then
KLC
is
in
October
and
we're
hoping
to
have.
You
know
something
in
November
to
work
to
work
with
after
that.
So
we've
got
a
couple
meetings
here.
F
If
you
have
specific
instances
in
your
county
or
city
that
you
want
to
bring
before
us,
that
could
be
good
presenters,
we'd
love
to
hear
about
that
for
our
July
and
August,
meaning
once
again
we're
trying
to
find
out.
You
know,
what's
going
on
in
the
state,
and
you
know
we,
some
of
us
are
isolated
in
Western
or
Eastern
part
of
the
state.
Maybe
we
don't
know
all
the
situations
that
are
going
on
around
the
state,
so
we
want
to
understand
it
completely.
F
A
Coach
with
that,
as
we
close
out
the
mayor,
are
there
any
members
that
have
any
questions
concerns
as
we
close?
No
seeing
none
well,
the
next
meeting
of
the
task
force
will
be
on
July
21st
of
this
year
and
I
appreciate
everybody
that
was
here
and
we'll
see.
You
then
thank
you.
Thank
you.
We
are
adjourning
good
and
there's
four
members.