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A
E
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chairman,
and
especially
for
letting
us
crash
your
your
committee
meeting
this
morning.
These
are
a
group
from
my
district
letcher
county
central
high
school,
and
we
have
a
couple
from
jenkins,
independent
school
as
well,
and
they
are
interns
at
the
cowling
creek
community
action
group
calendar
community
center
and
they've
been
placed
at
different
businesses
throughout
lecher
county
from
the
hospital
to
apple
shop.
The
courthouse
all
different
places
and
they're
paid
through
gear
up
and
through
eastern
kentucky,
concentrated
employment
program
and
they've
learned
a
whole
lot.
E
This
is
their
field
trip
at
the
end
of
their
summer.
They've
all
worked
really
hard
and
they're
having
fun,
but
they
got
to
vote
for
what
committee
meeting
they
would
like
to
attend
this
summer
and
they
planned
it
all
around
coming
to
learn
about
education
funding.
So
I
thought
that
was
really
admirable
that
they
were.
They
were
interested
in
that
and
thank
you
again
for
having
us
we'll
have
to
slip
out
a
little
bit
early
for
a
capital
tour,
but
we'll
try
to
be
quiet.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
representative
hatton,
a
couple
of
other
announcements
I
want
to
make
everyone
aware
of.
We
do
have
a
lengthy
agenda
today.
After
the
first
two
presentations,
we
will
break
for
lunch
and
then
we
will
come
back
promptly
at
1pm
to
continue
our
agenda
for
the
day.
Also,
there
is
an
overflow
room
available
in
room
169
of
the
annex.
If
there
are
people
who
wish
to
be
here
in
person
and
need
a
place
to
sit,
do
any
of
the
other
members
have
any
comments
or
recognitions
before
we
start.
A
A
Today,
we've
asked
the
kda
kde
staff
to
come
back
with
us
to
discuss
all
the
aspects
of
school
funding
that
are
not
distributed
through
the
seek
formula,
and
there
are
many
that
are
line
item
in
the
budget.
Our
first
presentation
today
we
have
kentucky
department
of
education
so
with
their
kde
representatives.
Please
come
forward,
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
your.
F
C
There
we
go
sometimes
that's
the
hardest
part
is
just
getting
started
and
make
sure
the
technology
is
working.
Thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
robin
kinney,
I'm
the
associate
commissioner
in
the
office
of
finance
and
operations
at
the
kentucky
department
of
education.
Karen,
would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself.
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
inviting
us
back
here
today,
wonderful
to
see
students
in
the
the
meeting
room
with
us
today.
You
know
at
the
end
of
the
day.
That's
why
we're
all
here
is
to
take
care
of
the
kiddos
that
are
behind
us
love
having
them
here,
and
we
will
try
to
make
what
is
sometimes
a
complicated
subject,
which
is
funding
for
our
local
school
districts.
Try
to
make
it
as
simple
as
possible.
C
Today
we
are
going
to
talk
to
you
per
the
request
about
things
that
are
not
fund
not
seek
funded.
We
are
going
to
reserve
our
remarks
really
to
state
funding.
We
are
not
going
to
get
into
federal
funds
today,
but
we
are
going
to
talk
about
just
state
funding
karen
if
you
can
advance
us
to
the
first
slide
as
a
reminder.
C
C
not
included
in
our
totals
today
are
the
funds
for
the
general
fund
appropriation
for
18.2
million
for
the
school
safety
facility
upgrades.
Those
were
capital
funds
that
were
originally
appropriated,
and
so
we
are
not
going
to
address
capital
funds
today,
also
not
included
for
fiscal
year.
22
are
capital
dollars
that
were
appropriated
to
the
kentucky
school
for
the
blind,
kentucky
school
for
the
deaf
and
the
ffa
leadership
training
center
or
the
140
million
appropriated
to
fully
fund
kindergarten,
as
that
was
outside
the
scope
of
the
bills
that
we
have
cited
on
the
slide.
C
The
department
of
education
receives
our
appropriations.
The
vast
majority
of
that
does
go
to
our
local
school
districts
and
just
to
give
you
kind
of
a
a
visual
of
the
three
appropriation
categories
for
the
department
of
education.
We
do
have
seek,
and
we
talked
about
that
at
our
last
funding
meeting.
So
this
this
is
just
a
depiction,
so
you
can
kind
of
get
into
your
head
that
we
have
three
appropriation
units
and
some
representative
items
that
fall
within
each
of
those
appropriation
levels.
So
we
have
seek.
Then
you,
you
will
hear
us
talk
about
boss.
C
C
We
also
have
the
learning
and
results
services
appropriation
unit,
that
is
more
of
our
instructional
side
of
the
kde
house,
so
think
of
the
office
of
teaching
and
learning
the
office
of
career
and
technical
education,
special
education.
Those
types
of
office
that
really
support
more
the
instructional
side
of
our
local
school
districts
are
on
the
large
side.
C
For
today's
presentation,
we
were
actually
asked
to
focus
on
how
we
distribute
and
calculate
dollars
that
go
to
our
local
school
districts.
So
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
karen
and
karen's
going
to
walk
us
through,
with
that
request
in
mind
how
we
distribute
and
calculate
funding
for
certain
dollars
that
flow
to
our
local
school
districts.
G
Thank
you
robin,
as
robin
mentioned,
we're
going
to
focus
on
boss
and
lars
today
on
the
general
fund
side,
the
dollars
that
are
appropriated
to
those
two
appropriation
units
to
kde,
some
of
the
methods
of
distribution
that
we
use
at
the
department
when
we
receive
funds
in
a
budget
bill
are
listed
here.
On
this
slide,
we
use
formula
or
allocation
methods
for
some
grants.
G
G
So,
starting
with
the
formula
allocation
method
grants
we've
listed
those
there
on
the
screen
for
you,
ess,
safe
schools
preschool
those
are
all
part
of
the
flex
focus
funds
that
I
don't
know
if
you
all
are
familiar
with.
They
are
funds
that
can
be
flexed
within
each
other.
So
if
you
have
a
greater
need
for
ess
funds,
you
can
move
those
to
other
areas
of
those
flex
focus
grants.
Those
are
all
based
on
formula
through
either
statute
or
regulation.
G
G
7.4
million
and
the
allocation
method
was
determined
by
the
kentucky
center
for
school
safety
in
partnership
with
the
state
school
marshal,
so
that
allocation
was
determined
based
on
number
of
districts
divided
into
the
total
grant
amount.
So
every
district,
regardless
of
size
or
number
of
students,
receive
the
same
dollar
amount.
G
G
The
the
salary
supplement
is
two
thousand
dollars,
and
districts,
then,
will
make
up
the
difference
by
paying
whatever
the
difference
is
between
what
we
can
give
them,
and
what?
What
the
two
thousand
dollar
mark
is.
We
also
listed
vocational
transportation
again.
Another
non-seek
item:
that's
in
the
seek
appropriation
number
of
students
mileage.
That's
done!
Those
are
types
of
factors
that
that
go
into
that
calculation
and
then
in
the
boss
appropriation
we
have
blind
deaf
travel,
that's
492.3
and
that's
allocated
to
districts
based
on
students
being
transported
to
those
facilities.
G
G
It
allows
school
districts
to
apply
for
grant
dollars
based
on
certain
criteria,
that's
required
either
through
statute
or
regulation
or
programmatic
decision
at
the
department.
So
we've
listed
a
few
here
for
you.
Math
achievement
read
to
achieve
are
probably
the
most
well-known
rfa
grants
that
we
distribute.
G
G
Our
line,
items
or
large
lines
or
alphabet
that
we
that
we
refer
to
in
the
large
appropriation
are
listed
here
and
most
of
these
are
with
our
educational
partners.
We
create
master
or
I'm
sorry,
memorandums
of
agreement
or
moa's
with
each
of
these
entities
with
specific
deliverables
and
milestones
outlined.
G
One
that's
a
little
bit
different
on
this
slide.
That
is,
a
large
line,
is
frisky,
that's
48.9
million,
that
is
in
kde's
appropriation.
What
we
do
with
frisky
dollars
is
the
first
and
third
quarter.
We
do
what's
called
an
appropriation
modification
and
we
transfer
half
of
that
appropriation
to
chfs
and
then
chfs
does
allocate
the
funds
to
school
districts
based
on
free
and
reduced
lunch
numbers.
So
it's
a
little
bit
different.
We
don't
we
don't
keep
any
percentage
or
portion
of
the
frisky
dollars
at
kde.
It
all
goes
to
chfs.
G
Those
one-offs
that
I
talked
about
that
are
a
little
bit
different.
We've
listed
a
couple
here.
We
do
have
the
kentucky
facilities,
inventory
and
classification
system
that
we
call
pay
fix.
That's
located
in
the
boss,
appropriation
and
k-fix
is
the
mechanism
that
school
districts
use
to
enter
information
about
their
facilities.
G
It's
a
ranking
type
order
where
districts
can
rank
their
their
facilities
by
areas
of
need.
We
are
appropriated,
600,
000,
k
fix
in
the
budget
and
also
we
budget
approximately
12
million
dollars
for
assessment
and
accountability.
It's
not
a
line
item,
but
that's
the
budget
that
that
we
typically
have.
G
On
behalf
payments,
those
are
dollars
that
are
in
kde's
budget
that
we
then
pay
on
behalf
of
local
school
districts.
So
some
examples
in
our
boss
appropriation,
we
receive
one
million
dollars
for
advanced
placement
in
international
baccalaureate
testing.
We
pay
for
ap
tests
for
free
and
reduced
lunch
students
and
in
house
bill
192.
We
also
received
an
additional
2.6
million
for
districts
to
administer
ap
tests
and
we
would
pay
on
a
first
come
first
serve
basis,
so
very
excited
about
that
additional
funding.
G
We
pay
the
personnel
cabinet
department
of
employee
insurance
for
all
school
district
employees
and
it's
based
on
what
their
plan
selection
is,
so
that
money
goes
directly
to
personnel
on
behalf
of
the
school
districts
and
those
are
for
general
fund
employees
in
those
districts
and
then,
lastly,
in
the
seek
appropriation,
we
have
trs,
which
is
teacher
retirement
system.
So
we
are
allocated
or
appropriated,
pretty
large
number
435
million
that
we
pay
on
behalf
of
school
districts
for
employees
at
their
district
who
participate
and
pay
into
trs.
That
is
the
employer
match
piece.
A
G
A
G
B
A
It
sounds
like
it's
not
in
the
secret,
it's
in
the
scene,
if
I
could
follow
up,
maybe
just
make
sure
everybody's
clear
on
this.
Of
course,
the
local
school
district
pays
for
the
employer
portion
for
the
pension
fund
correct,
and
then
this
is.
Is
this
the
on
behalf
that
basically
reimburses
them
for
that
cost?.
A
A
A
H
H
So
the
health,
insurance
and
life
insurance
in
the
lars
budget
unit
pays
for
current
employee
health
insurance,
whereas
the
amount
amount
that's
paid
on
behalf
to
trs
in
the
seek
budget
unit,
not
part
of
the
seek
formula
but
in
the
sikh
budget
unit
goes
to
pay
the
state's
portion
of
both
pension
and
retiree
medical.
The
district
pays
three
percent
towards
retiree
medical
and
that
is
paid
out
of
their
but
their
own
budget.
That
is
not
contained
in
the
state's
budget.
G
A
G
A
C
G
G
That
is
less
than
one
percent
of
our
total
general
fund
appropriation
and
as
of
april,
the
30th
our
personnel
cap
or
compliment
was
1085
permanent,
full-time
employees,
and
then
we've
listed
a
breakdown
there
at
frankfurt
based
and
then
in
our
state
operated
facilities.
Ksb
ksd
in
our
local
area,
technology.
G
Centers,
a
little
more
on
our
on
our
two
state
operated
facilities,
ksb
and
ksd,
located
in
louisville
and
in
danville
they
receive
a
separate
appropriation
within
the
lars
lines
and
they
they
do
cover
their
personnel
and
operating
from
those
dollar
amounts,
and
we
were
very
lucky
and
grateful
to
receive
some
additional
funding
in
house
bill.
192
for
those
two
state
operated
facilities.
G
Just
briefly
talk
about
our
lavax:
we
are
appropriated,
12
million
in
the
career
and
technical
education
appropriation
for
our
51,
I'm
sorry
for
our
lavex
and
we
also
have
budgeted
about
a
million
nine
that
goes
towards
paying
industry
certification
costs
for
our
area
technology
centers.
We
have
some
operating
for
a
new
atc
that
was
built
this
past
year
in
esto
county
and
then
other
operating
costs
within
the
area
technology
center.
C
We've
done
a
very,
very
high
overview
and
I'd
like
to
direct
you
to
a
document
that
we
call
our
program.
Glossary,
general
and
federal
grant
information
can
be
found
at
this
web
link
and
for
each
of
our
grant
opportunities.
You'll
find
on
this
on
this
document.
The
grant
the
grant
description,
the
award
amount,
the
statutes
and
regulations
actually
governing
the
program
and
that
piece
about
how
allocated
so.
Some
of
our
funds,
of
course,
are
allocated
based
upon
aada
or
free
and
reduced
lunch
they're
all
different
in
that
capacity.
C
So
I
carry
this
document
with
me
all
the
time
as
almost
like
a
don't
leave
home
without
it,
because
it
can
get
kind
of
confusing
that.
But
this
document
can
help
you
to
understand
how
each
fund
is
allocated,
whether
the
payments
are
quarterly
annually
monthly,
how
we
do
that
so
really
a
good
document
to
use
as
a
reference
tool.
A
B
C
So
those
were
funds
that
were
appropriated
by
the
general
assembly,
seven
point:
five,
four
million
and
it
really
came
out
of
senate
bill
one.
The
discussions
around
senate
bill,
one.
You
know
when
we
talk
about
safety,
a
lot
this
past
16
months
we've
been
talking
about
the
coronavirus
and
responding
to
the
coronavirus,
but
prior
to
that
there
were
other
safety
issues
that
the
general
assembly
recognized
would
be
available,
should
and
and
had
funding
available.
So
the
7.4
million
is
to
hire
mental
health
professionals
at
the
local
level.
C
Each
district
was
appropriated
a
certain
certain
amount
of
funding
to
support
those
mental
health
professionals.
It
was
to
add
professionals.
It
was
not
to
pay
for
professionals;
they
already
had
so
really
to
encourage
those
mental
health
services
and
supports
at
our
local
school
districts.
So
that
has
been
underway
for
a
little
while
and
continues
now.
C
B
D
D
Robin
thank
you
excellent
comments
and
representative
also
on
that
at
the
district
level,
with
telehealth
and
telecounseling.
Also,
districts
can
work
with
any
school
psychologist
school
social
worker
that
may
have
not
have
on
staff
in
the
building,
but
look
to
do
some
type
of
contracting
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
C
Yeah
sure
so
that
process
does
come
through
karen's
office
as
a
matter
of
fact,
and
we
work
with
medicaid
at
the
cabinet
for
health
and
family
services
to
make
sure
that
those
professionals
that
are
identified
are
qualified
and
have
the
appropriate
certification
so
that
they
can
build
medicaid.
So
that
does
come
through
our
office
as
well.
F
A
C
H
C
So
we
have
both
state-operated
atc's
area
technology
centers.
There
are
51
of
those
those
are
actually
managed
and
run
by
the
department
and
then
the
locally
operated
or
the
lavax
are
those
actually
run
and
employees
hired
by
our
local
school
districts.
So
we
actually
have
two
two
paths
that
you
can
go
for:
career
and
technical
education
in
the
commonwealth.
C
B
C
And,
of
course,
there's
been
an
entire
task
force
that
looked
at
career
and
technical
education
for
the
commonwealth
and
and
that's
why
we
didn't
get
go
into
a
lot
of
conversation
about
our
area
technology
technology,
centers
or
the
lavax.
There's
been
a
complete
funding
task
force
that
have
looked
at
that
independently.
H
H
H
B
Good
morning,
good
morning,
thank
you.
This
is
very
informative.
I
do
have
a
question
from
your
powerpoint
last
year
in
terms
of,
and
I
don't
know
what
slide
number
it
is,
but
it's
additional
funding.
You
put
12
million
for
assessment
accountability,
but
on
the
slide
from
last
from
our
information
that
we
got
from
you,
we
have
like
more
like
21
million,
and
that
was
that
was
information
that
you
provided
to
us
and
that's
not
including
what
the
district
spends.
So
I'm
kind
of
curious
where
the
12
million
is
coming
from
so.
G
The
12
million
is
general
fund,
and-
and
that
is
the
the
assessment
and
accountability
staff
that
work
in
that
office.
We
budget
them
straight
from
that
allotment.
So
so,
if
you
look
at
general
fund
for
assessment
accountability,
the
office
it's
about
15
million,
because
we
budget
3
million
for
staff
and
then
we
budget
about
12
million
for
our
personal
service
contracts.
The
addition
from
the
12
million
or
the
15
million
to
21
would
be
the
federal
dollars.
We
receive
6
million
in
federal
assessment
each
year,
so
I
think
the
total
the
total
is
21.
C
A
A
C
Yeah,
that's
what
we
that's.
What
we
attempted
to
do
today
was
to
catch
you
up
on
the
things
that
we
didn't
talk
about
at
the
last
seek
presentation.
You
know
we
talked
about
seek
base,
we
talked
about
equalization
transportation,
but
there
were
still
some
items
that
we
didn't
capture
in
that
last
presentation
on
seek
so
we've
attempted
to
bring
those
in
through
this
presentation.
Yeah.
B
A
A
C
So
we
we
fund
it
as
long
as
it
can
go
and
then,
but
I
will
say
most
districts
have
continued
to
do
that
and
probably
will
continue
to
do
that.
Our
national
board
certified
teachers
are
very,
very
valuable
to
teaching
and
learning
in
our
local
school
district.
So
we
envision
that
that
will
probably
continue
to
the
to
the
to
the
local
district's
ability
to
do
so.
A
A
C
A
C
A
G
H
C
A
B
C
C
A
C
G
A
We
had
a
this
year
we
had
a
first
time
line
adam
and
the
budget
for
the
dolly
parton
imagination,
library,
for
those
who
are
not
familiar
with
that
program.
It's
program
that
was
started
by
dolly
pardon
to
get
books
into
children's
lives,
and
could
you
go
a
little?
Could
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
about
how
that
money
is
going
to
be
distributed
here
in
the
state
of
kentucky
the
allocation?
I
believe
it
was
800
000.
If
I'm
remembering
right.
A
Early
literacy
is
very
important
and
the
more
books
that
we
can
get
out
there.
I
just
wanted
to
elaborate
on
that
and
just
for
clarification
on
the
frisky's
question.
I
asked
you
last
month
I
did
get
a
response
from
budget
director
hicks
and
it
was
his
recollection
that
when
we
did
cara
after
the
rose
decision,
it
was
decided
that
time
to
put
that
into
the
education
budget
that
portion,
so
it's
just
been
historically
done
so
now
the
if,
if
I'm
thinking
correctly,
that
the
total
for
friskies,
I
think
it's
about
each
allocation
gets
about
half.
A
C
G
C
F
A
B
A
A
A
F
F
Good
morning
you
all
my
name
is
chelsea
couch,
and
this
is
christy
russell.
We
are
with
the
school
facilities.
Construction.
Commission.
Thank
you
for
having
us
today.
Our
presentation
will
be
much
shorter
than
the
one
you
just
heard
we're
just
gonna.
We
were
asked
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
what
our
could.
A
F
You're
welcome
we're
just
giving
a
brief
overview
of
what
our
agency
does
school
facilities.
We
serve
171
of
kentucky
school
districts.
We
provide
debt
service,
support
to
all
the
districts
for
capital
construction
projects.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
volume
that
we
do.
Last
fiscal
year
we
issued
a
par
amount
of
473
million
in
bonds,
90
of
which
was
the
state
portion.
It
was
debt
service
that
we
support.
F
F
This
last
time
we
were
appropriate
58
million
to
give
out
to
offers
of
assistance
to
the
school
districts,
but
to
be
eligible,
you
have
to
have
a
kentucky
board
of
education,
approved
facility
plan
on
file
you've
all
heard
about
the
nichols.
We
do
ask
that
you
commit
at
least
five
cents
to
facilities
and
on
odd
numbered
years
we
restrict
all
available
local
revenue
for
capital,
construction.
F
Projects
as
far
as
offers
of
assistance,
it's
very
formulary
in
2019,
the
kentucky's
total
unmet
need
for
school
facilities
was
6.9
billion.
We
will
see
a
new
report
come
out
this
october,
but
as
far
as
formulary,
like
I
said,
you
take
need
minus
their
local
revenue,
so
all
their
taxes
and
then
we're
going
to
take
our
appropriation
and
multiply
it
by
the
district.
D
This
weekend,
not
knowing
you
all
were
going
to
be
here,
but
I
had
some
school
administrators
say,
and
I
wrote
it
down
when
building
a
new
building
at
a
different
location.
Why
is
it
not
allowed
to
include
the
athletic
facilities
and
extracurricular
buildings
using
school
construction
funds?
It
seems
that
the
current
system
pays
more
and
takes
more
time
on
every
project
because
of
the
current
system.
F
So
when
a
new
school
is
built,
we
do
typically
allow
for
state
dollars
to
be
applied
toward
athletic
facilities
if
they're
building
a
new
high
school
and
they're
putting
in
a
new
football
stadium.
That's
kind
of
rolled
into
one
bond
issue
now,
as
far
as
we
do
not
fund,
so
if
they
already
have
in
high
school
and
they
want
to
do
a
new
turf,
we're
not
going
to
fund
that
with
state
dollars.
F
D
D
F
That's
a
good
question,
so
the
kfix
report
is
a
product
of
kde
and,
like
robin
said,
there's
probably
60
percent
of
all
school
facilities
in
in
that
report.
Right
now.
So
it's
hard
to
say
for
this
last
round
of
funding
that
I
was
talking
about
the
federal
funds.
We
used
a
report
back
in
february
of
20
for
that,
so
that
looks
different
than
the
june
of
21
list,
but
I
think
that
is
due
to
as
more
facilities
are
being
added.
D
And
I
only
asked
that
simply
because
this
school
district-
I'm
not
going
to
mention
them
because
I
may
hurt
them-
I
mean
help
them
today.
I
don't
know,
but
because
they
ask
me,
I
want
at
least
you
you're
I'll
get
you
at
the
table.
They've
done
everything.
They've
done,
nickels
double
nipples
triple
nickels,
you
name
it.
They
can
do
a
quarter
probably,
but
they
just
continue
to
feel
like
they
are
up
and
down
like
a
ping-pong
ball
and
so
they're,
hoping
if
they're
third
right
now.
D
E
H
H
F
H
I
would
appreciate
that
I'm
just
thinking
that
if
you
look
at
that
those
that
chart
you're
looking
at
these
districts,
you've
got
a
dairy
county
with
51
million
in
need
and
only
2.7
in
available
revenue
allen
county.
I
mean
you,
go
down
the
list,
there's
a
lot
of
need
and
very
little
local
revenue
available.
H
F
G
B
F
Their
total
available
revenue
is
essentially
their
tax
base,
so
we're
going
to
take
their
need,
which
is
on
their
district
facility
plan
on
file
at
kde,
subtract
those
local
revenues
they
have
coming
in.
We
have
an
unmet
need,
so
we
were
appropriated,
58
million
for
the
past
two
budget
sessions
before
that
we
were
at
100
million,
so
we
are
trending
down
on
that
as
far
as
our
appropriation
that
we're
allowed
to
give,
but
the
58
million
times
or
multiplied
by
the
district
percentage
gives
them
essentially
their
total
mortgage
again.
G
A
A
I
also
happens
to
have
one
of
my
counties
in
my
district
in
there,
but
it
just
stands
out,
and
we
talked
about
this
last
month
that
there
are
certain
counties
that
are
losing
population
they're,
losing
assessment
in
their
tax
base.
There
are
other
areas
that
are
are
gaining
assessment
and-
and
this
slide
really
shows
that,
if
you
look
at
I'm
just
gonna
anchorage
independent
that
they
have
more
total
available
revenue
than
than
their
unmet
need
and
their
unvet
need
is
very
low
compared
to
the
others.
A
F
F
As
they
go
so
I
think
it's
just
different,
but
they're,
also
very
small,
so
the
bigger
ones,
if
we
included
fayette
and
jefferson
on
there
I
mean
their
need
is
quite
large,
but
they
also
have
a
huge
tax
base.
So
I
think
the
trend
is
that
the
need
is
growing,
but
that
goes
back
again
to
construction
costs
and
what
these
projects
are
actually
going
to
bid
for
now
is
much
higher
than
it
was
even
last
year.
A
A
A
F
A
F
A
A
Does
anybody
else
have
any
questions
well,
at
this
time
we're
gonna
break
when
we
set
up
this
agenda,
we
had
no
idea
how
long
this
discussions
going
to
take-
and
I
know
the
next
portion
is
going
to
be
rather
important.
We
get
to
talking
about
weights
that
we
mentioned
last
month.
So
at
this
time
I
need
a
motion
to
go
into
recess
until
1
pm.