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A
This
time,
if
y'all
had
time
to
look
at
the
minutes,
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
any
objections,
but
it's
our
approved
we're
going
to
go
out
of
order
at
the
request
of
Representative
Hart
we're
going
to
go
with
the
state,
Urban
search
and
rescue.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I,
really
appreciate
that
accommodate
my
presenters
with
me
with
me
today.
I
have
to
my
write
representative,
buddy
Wheatley,
who
is
the
primary
co-sponsor
of
this
piece
of
legislation
for
us
and
to
my
left
I'm,
going
to
let
both
of
these
gentlemen
introduce
themselves
they're
our
subject:
experts
on
this
and
they're
going
to
give
our
presentation
of
what
why
this
is
needed
and
what
the
bill
will
do
so
go
ahead.
F
F
28
of
those
in
January
will
be
with
Lexington
fire
I've
done,
22
years
of
Special
Operations
Urban
search
and
rescue
training
throughout
the
state
and
the
nation
17
years
with
Ohio
task
force,
one
which
is
a
FEMA
Urban
search
and
rescue
team
I've
been
on
multiple
Nationals
Statewide
deployments,
including
most
recently
hurricane
Ian,
where
I
was
a
task
force
leader
for
Ohio,
Task,
Force,
One,
Surfside
Florida,
the
condo
collapse
in
Miami
candle,
The
Candle
factory
in
Mayfield
in
this
past
December,
the
mudslides
in
Stanton
Kentucky,
and
then
this
past
summer,
the
Eastern
Kentucky
floods,
several
hurricanes,
along
with
that
also
I've,
been
I've,
served
for
12
years
as
the
structural
collapse
leader
for
structural
collapse,
team
leader
for
Lexington
fire
department.
G
Good
morning
my
name
is
Doug
Hargreaves
I'm,
the
executive
officer
of
Special
Operations
within
the
Lexington
fire
department.
Again,
I
have
30
years
of
Kentucky
fire
service
18
of
those
years
with
special
operations
with
Urban
search
and
rescue.
I
also
served
five
years
with
Ohio
task
force,
one
which
is
a
FEMA
Urban
search
and
rescue
team.
G
Multiple
and
National
Statewide
deployments,
including
Hurricane
Irene,
the
Canada
Factory
Mayfield
Kentucky,
where
I
was
a
rescue
team
manager
working
on
the
pile,
also
Clay's,
Clay,
City
flooding,
Stanton
Kentucky,
also
with
the
mudslide
just
recently,
East
Kentucky
flooding
during
East
Kentucky
flooding.
We
were
the
first
ones
in
breatha
County
and
then
also
later
on
that
week,
I
served
as
the
Statewide
operations
manager
for
the
floods
and
in
the
past
this
past
year
also
presented
on
the
state
of
Kentucky
at
the
state,
Urban
search
and
rescue
conference
in
South
Carolina.
F
First,
what
is
urban
search
and
rescue
and
what
is
it
considered
in
2022,
Urban
search
and
rescue
is
a
type
of
technical
rescue
operation
that
involves
the
highly
trained
and
organized
teams.
These
teams
can
locate,
extricate
and
provide
initial
medical
surveillance
of
victims
trapped
in
urban
and
rural
areas,
once
described,
as
mainly
a
team
for
structural
collapses
due
to
Natural
Resources,
War
terrorism
or
accidents.
Teams.
Now,
today
are
used
for
all
types
of
disasters,
they're
known
and
organized
as
an
all
hazards
team.
F
They
follow
the
FEMA
guidelines
with
this
I
want
to
emphasize
that
we
use
the
word
Urban
in
there.
That
is
solely
to
make
a
difference
between
urban
and
Wilderness
style
rescue
when
we
say
Urban
we're
talking
about
houses,
cities,
streets,
those
kind
of
environments,
not
the
Wilderness
aspect.
It's
used
the
word
Urban
in
there
and
that
follows
the
FEMA
guidelines
and
FEMA
definitions.
G
Foreign,
so
what
are
the
capabilities?
What
are
the
capabilities
of
a
task
force?
First,
physical
search
and
rescue
operations
and
damage
collapse,
structures,
emergency
medical
care
for
entombed
survivors
task
force,
Task,
Force
personnel
and
search
canines
reconnaissance
that
assess
damage
and
needs
and
provide
feedback
to
local
state,
tribal
and
territorial
of
federal
officials,
assessments
shut
up
for
utilities
to
houses
and
other
buildings
and
has
materials,
surveys
and
evaluations.
One
of
the
things
that
we
were
proud
of
in
breatha
county
is
that
we
served
surveyed
over
5,
000
structures
and
bridges
in
other
infrastructure
points.
G
Also,
what
are
the
capabilities?
Structural
Hazard
evaluations
of
buildings
needed
for
media
occupancy
to
support
disaster
and
relief
operations,
stabilizing
damage
structures,
including
Shoring
encrypting
operations
on
damaged
buildings,
hazardous
material
equipment,
push
packages
for
operations
in
contaminated
environments
in
search
and
rescue
operations
in
water
environments?
G
G
So
why
why
Urban
search
and
rescue
again
we
talk
about
floodings
flooding
is
a
constant
issue
with
the
state
of
Kentucky.
One
of
the
most
recent
things
now
is
we're
dealing
with
is
tornadoes
potential
for
earthquakes
hurricanes,
as
we
won't
see
the
actual
effect
of
a
hurricane
initially,
but
we
do
see
the
heavy
rains
that
proceed
also
ice,
storms,
infrastructure
collapse
and
also
one
of
the
things
we'll
add
in
here
is
Terrorism.
G
So
on
this
slide,
we
have
two
different
graphs.
The
first
graph
is
in
2021
of
the
tornadoes
here
in
Kentucky.
The
second
graph
shows
you,
the
2022
tornadoes
that
actually
has
happened
this
year
alone.
So
the
trend
currently
right
now
is
for
tornadoes
in
Kentucky
is
to
start
in
the
southwest
part
of
the
state
and
travel
across
Bowling
Green,
all
the
way
over
to
Louisville
Frankfurt
and
also
the
Lexington
area.
This
year
alone,
the
tornadoes
that
seemed
to
be
stopping
during
the
I-75-64
corridor,
with
the
exception
of
the
one
towards
Ashland.
F
Why
Urban
search
and
rescue?
We
also
talked
about
the
earthquake
risk
all
right.
As
most
of
you
know,
Kentucky
sits
on
the
New
Madrid
fault,
and
so
that's
the
the
one
that
everybody
talks
about
the
big
one.
F
When
it
happens
in
2014,
we
did
a
Capstone
exercise
with
the
fire
departments
throughout
the
state
with
the
National
Guard,
and
we
found
some
some
issues
that
we
wanted
to
correct
in
those
areas
with
that
being
said,
if
the
big
one
happens
as
they
call
it,
they
would
have
what
we
call
the
liquefaction
of
Western
Kentucky,
which
means
all
the
water
would
basically
be
shaken
out
of
the
soil
and
come
to
the
top
right.
F
F
In
that
you
can
see
the
different
counties,
different
areas
where
flooding
deaths
have
occurred
on
the
bottom,
you
can
see
even
though
Kentucky
only
accounts
for
a
little
over
one
percent
of
the
U.S
population.
The
flood
deaths
between
1996
and
2020,
the
state
accounted
for
almost
four
percent
of
the
total
flood
deaths
in
the
United
States,
and
so
that
that's
something
we
want
to
look
at
these
numbers
do
not
include
the
numbers
that
happened
this
past
summer
in
Eastern
Kentucky,
with
a
death
toll
of
39.
F
So
history
of
us
are
in
Kentucky,
since
2010
is
estimated
that
over
180
firefighters
received
this
highly
skilled
certification
in
structural
collapse.
Response
or
use
are
these
firefighters
stretched
from
across
the
states.
They
include
cities
from
Paducah
to
Ashland
Louisville
to
Campbellsville.
A
committee
was
formed
and
tried
for
five
years
from
2012
to
2017
to
make
this
much
needed.
F
Statewide
team,
a
necessity,
a
reality,
I'm
sorry
First,
Responders
travel
to
connecting
States
and
joined
their
federal
and
state
teams,
because
we
don't
have
a
State
team
here,
I'm
an
example
of
that,
and
so
is
Lieutenant
Hargraves.
We
both
go
to
Ohio
to
to
be
a
part
of
their
state
and
federal
team.
In
the
last
12
months,
Kentucky
has
had
two
had
two
historical
deaths
or
disasters
that
were
the
largest
tornado
in
Kentucky's
history
and
a
Thousand-Year
flood
killing
39.
F
A
Excuse
me:
yes,
sir,
can
we
move
on
through
these
sure
quickly.
H
F
So,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
the
biggest
slide
we
wanted
to
show
you
out
of
all
the
states
in
the
United
States
43
states
have
some
type
or
form
of
regional
or
State
team
Kentucky,
as
you
can
see
in
the
white
there
in
the
middle,
is
the
only
state
in
the
South
that
does
not
have
a
state
or
a
regional
team
go
ahead.
F
So
how
would
we
do
a
program?
We've
done
an
evaluation
of
this
and
has
been
an
ongoing
process
since
2001..
We
wanted
to
find
a
mission
statement
statement
developing
an
accredited
program
that
would
be
a
standalone
division
under
umbrella
in
a
of
a
larger
entity.
Most
ideal
spot
for
us
would
be
the
Kentucky
Emergency
Management.
However,
it
could
fit
under
any
agency
that
has
a
responsibility
of
response,
a
develop
accredited
teams
and
Place
throughout
the
state
and
with
different
levels
of
training
capabilities.
K
F
More
to
the
cost:
here
we
go
there,
you
go.
What's
that
mean
yep?
That's
you
is
that
here,
okay,
so
how
much
would
this
cost
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky?
We
took
into
the
consideration
all
the
following:
FEMA
susar,
which
is
State
Urban
search
and
rescue
NFPA,
is
what's
governed
fire
departments
and
emap
guidelines,
realistic
time
for
developing
and
training
equipment
and
Fleet
current
Supply
chains
and
Geographic
areas
of
Kentucky
the
cost.
G
So
when
would
we
expect
to
see
Deployable
teams
once
funding
is
established?
Projected
timeline
for
Kentucky?
You
started
first
year
established
the
usar
program
established
with
five
Regional
teams
across
the
state,
starting
with
Western
Kentucky
and
then
also
East,
Kentucky
Kentucky
task
force,
warning
Kentucky,
Task
Force
2
would
be
a
Deployable
on
a
limited
basis
and
Advanced
Training
would
begin
on
year.
Two,
the
remaining
five
Deployable
Regional
teams
will
be
established.
That
will
be
the
center
Corridor
or
the
state.
The
following
task
force.
One
and
two
would
be
fully
Deployable
at
that
time.
G
Again,
an
advanced
training,
membership
events,
training
for
the
membership
will
be
continued
and
then
also
starting
a
three-day
exercise.
We
give
you
three
scenarios
and
we'll
finish,
and
then
we
finish
the
first
scenarios
of
tornadoes
touchdown,
the
West
part
of
the
state,
the
local
jurisdiction,
responds
and
determines
that
they
need
our
assistance
from
the
regional
team.
The
state
EOC
is
notified.
They
issue
a
state
incident
number.
The
state
EOC,
along
with
the
regional
team,
notifies
you.
You
start
a
Command
Staff
of
the
instant.
G
G
The
second
scenario
is
the
reports
of
local
and
state.
Meteorologists
have
potential
heavy
rains
and
flooding
are
issued
for
that
part
of
State
Kentucky
usar
would
Place
Regional
teams
in
that
state
on
the
closest
and
the
closest
task
force
on
alert.
They
would
start
to
pre-ross
their
team,
local
and
Regional
em
directors,
May,
request
type
2
water
rescue
team
to
stage
in
that
area.
This
will
prevent
delays
and
response,
and
a
state
incident
would
be
created.
The
local
jurisdiction
has
become
unable
to
support
the
mission
and
they
can
request
response
from
a
regional
team.
F
E
Just
to
conclude
here
with
the
presentation,
the
biggest
reason
for
this
team,
the
biggest
example
I
can
give
you
right
now,
because
we
have
no
centralized
team.
It
took
some
of
the
the
train
First
Responders,
like
the
the
Lexington
fire
department,
12
hours
to
get
boots
on
the
ground
in
Eastern,
Kentucky
to
start
performing
rescues.
We
could
theoretically
get
boots
on
the
ground
in
possibly
an
hour
with
this
type
of
team
and
resource
in
this
state.
We
could
save
lives
with
this
team.
D
And
real,
quick,
a
a
slide
we
did
go
over
was
one
that
creates
the
10
Regional
teams
that
respond
within
60
miles
and
with
that
with
those
10
Regional
teams
we'll
be
able
to
touch
all
of
Kentucky
and
outside
of
Kentucky,
and
that's
a
critical
point
and
we're
looking
forward
to
at
least
it'll
be
phased
in
for
a
portion
of
the
time.
But
of
getting
to
this
point
thanks.
A
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
just
a
couple
comments.
First
of
all,
Captain
Lieutenant.
Thank
you
all
for
what
you
did
for
us
in
Eastern
Kentucky
during
the
flooding
I
do
represent
not
County
and
a
good
portion
of
the
Pike
County
flooding,
I,
guess
I'm,
the
only
member
of
this
committee
that
was
impacted
by
that
flooding
you're,
always
working
Bradford
County
was
just
outstanding.
C
Unfortunately,
we
our
losses
are
above
40..
I
can't
even
begin
to
fathom
what
those
lost
numbers
could
have
been
without
your
help
and
support.
Getting
there
to
rescue
I
spoke
with
some
of
the
pilots,
with
the
National
Guard
as
well,
and
I
think
they
worked
in
conjunction
with
the
helicopters
directing
you
all
to
some
of
the
locations
to
to
get
people
out
and
the
work
you
did.
There
was
just
amazing
and
invaluable
to
the
people
in
that
region.
C
I
know
that
there
are
some
people
that
that
talk
about
cost
and
wonder
and
I
I,
don't
see
how
we
cannot
afford
to
do
this
and
have
this
prepared,
because
we've
been
through
two
of
these
now
and
about
an
eight
month
time
period
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky.
We
don't
know
when
another
situation
is
going
to
hit.
We
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
be
a
building
collapse
in
the
urban
area
or
it's
going
to
be
a
natural
disaster
in
a
rural
area,
but
I.
Thank
you
for
what
you
do
I.
L
Captain
Halston
Lieutenant
Hargraves.
It's
good
to
see
you,
gentlemen,
as
you
know,
I'm
from
Lexington
and
I
have
to
admit
I
well,
I
have
a
lot
of
contact
with
the
police
department.
My
contact
with
your
Chief
and
your
agency
has
not
been
that
significant
I
need
to
improve
on
that
in
the
near
future.
L
I'm
very
proud
of
what
you
do
for
Lexington
I
have
I
have
to
to
agree
with
what's
been
said,
this
seems
to
be
a
no-brainer
for
me,
I
guess.
My
question
is
probably
more
directed
to
representative
heart
representative
Wheatley.
Why
haven't
if
43
other
states
are
doing
this?
L
Why
haven't
we
done
that
and
and
you're
right
after
what
we've
seen
in
the
last
year
in
Western
Kentucky
with
the
tornadoes
and
with
Eastern
Kentucky,
the
flooding
I
mean
we've
got
to
do
this,
so
so,
why
have
we
done
this
in
the
past?
I
guess
that's
my
question.
What's
been
the
what's
been
the
reason
or
the
arguments
not
to
do
this
I.
E
Can
only
I
can
only
guess
to
why
it
didn't
pass.
E
I
would
say
it
was
probably
a
budgetary
constraint
back
in
the
years
that
they
try
to
put
this
on,
because
this
they
they
created
a
similar
type
of
team
or
Bill,
and
they
presented
it,
but
like
a
lot
of
things
that
went
to
a
r
and
it
didn't
move,
because
we
didn't
have
the
money,
and
so
that's
what
I
would
assume,
but
working
in
Eastern
Kentucky
myself
with
one
of
the
local
rescue
teams
and
having
worked
with
Captain
harger
or
Lieutenant
Hargraves
and
Captain
hawkson
as
a
professional
and
representative
Wheatley
as
a
retired
fire
chief,
having
worked
in
the
in
the
field
too,
we
just
realized
with
what
happened
this
summer.
E
D
It
couldn't
have
been
said
better,
but
now
you
have
two
fire
former
fire
officials
estate
reps
and
we're
going
to
push
this
all
the
way.
Well,.
A
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
so
I
sincerely
appreciate
everything
that
our
emergency
response
Personnel
have
done
this
year
last
year
and
obviously
in
the
past,
because
you
guys
are
just
the
you're,
the
salt
of
the
earth,
saying.
Thank
you
so
much
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
point
out
and
I
appreciate
you
all.
Bringing
this
bill
forward.
M
I
was
a
disaster
recovery
manager
for
a
large
corporation,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
learned
after
9
11
was
that
our
communication
between
state
federal
and
local
government
was
insignificant,
and
we
also
learned
that
there
was
a
breakdown
in
communication
between
the
public
and
the
private
sector.
So
there
was
the
implementation
of
the
nilm
system,
which
was
the
national
information
money
management
systems,
and
that
was
a
communication
and
Reporting
mechanism.
That
was
supposed
to
have
been
adopted
throughout
private
public
local
state
and
federal.
M
M
A
N
N
If
you
think
about
it,
cyber
security,
the
internet
is
really
analogous
to
the
highway
infrastructure
system
that
we
have
in
the
state
of
Kentucky,
as
well.
Well
as
all
of
the
transportation
networks
that
we
have
it's
critical
infrastructure
that
enables
Commerce
so
Economic
Development
as
well
as
Talent
with.
In
order
to
manage
this
system,
we
have
to
have
a
talent,
develop
development
system,
much
like
our
state
trooper
system.
So
we
have
to
have
people
who
are
trained
and
skilled
in
securing
this
critical
infrastructure
and
then,
finally,
we
have
to
have
training
facilities.
N
N
So
cyber
security,
as
we
all
know,
is
a
growing
threat.
It's
the
average
cost
of
critical
infrastructure
data
breach
in
2022
is
4.8
million
dollars.
According
to
IBM,
we've
all
seen
the
news
this
lat
just
recently
with
common
Spirit,
the
parent
Corporation
for
Chi.
N
There
was
news
that
they
had
a
data
breach
a
Cyber
attack,
which
was
that
cost
them
access
to
their
electronic
medical
records,
so
they
can't
access
their
electronic
medical
records.
That's
over
141
facilities,
including
in
the
state
of
Kentucky,
where
services
are
being
denied
right
now.
So,
according
to
a
recent
report
from
Bain
and
Company,
the
average
cost
of
a
provider
data
breach
is
10
million
dollars
here
in
22
2022,
that's
up
40
from
recent
reports
in
2020..
N
So
it's
a
it's
a
really
phenomenal
inflation
rate
here
and
the
cost
of
these
breaches.
There's
a
critical
Workforce
Gap
to
solve
this
problem.
So
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
alone,
there's
over
4
000
unfilled
highly
paid
positions
within
cyber
security.
This
is
across
all
industry
sectors,
Health
Care,
as
I
referenced
earlier,
with
the
common
Spirit
data
breach,
but
also
in
manufacturing
in
our
public
sector
at
Public
Utilities.
So
there
are
many
positions
that
we
don't
have
the
workforce
to
fill
to
secure
our
critical
cyber
infrastructure.
N
So
what
what's
the
solution?
What's
the
proposed
solution
to
to
this
problem?
We're
proposing
Kentucky
cyber
cyber
Security's
new
home
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
to
tackle
this
head-on
to
tackle
this
challenge
head
on?
So
we
have
a
vision
which
is
Kentucky,
Central
infrastructure,
State,
our
state
and
local
agencies,
all
of
our
industry
clusters,
as
I
mentioned
across
manufacturing,
Healthcare
Logistics,
and
distributions
to
build
our
own
critical,
skilled
Workforce
here
in
the
state
of
Kentucky.
N
We
we've
attracted
significant
Federal
funding
already
from
the
National
Security
Agency,
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security.
To
get
these
programs
off
the
ground,
so
what
are
the
three
critical
elements
for
Success
here?
First?
Is
education
and
Workforce
Development,
so
we
have
to
have
the
talented
skilled
Workforce
to
do
this.
N
So
we
have
to
start
educating
in
our
high
schools,
building
this
Talent
Pipeline
and
that's
what
we're
working
hard
on
doing
right
now
with
the
programs
that
we're
building
at
the
University
of
Louisville
and
with
our
Consortium
of
Colleges
and
Schools
throughout
the
state
of
Kentucky
next
is
a
is
a
dedicated
cyber
range
and
Dr
Elmer
Robbie
is
going
to
explain
exactly
what
that
means
for
us
here
in
just
a
minute,
but
that's
think
of
a
a
training
field,
a
safe,
secure
training
field
for
doing
denial,
service
attacks
or
hacking
events
to
make
sure
that
critical
infrastructure
at
the
corporate
and
public
sector
level
is
secure.
N
N
Finally,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
really
important
that
the
final
third
element
of
this
is
the
economic
development
impact,
so
the
ability
to
attract
leading
industry.
We
have
to
have
this
critical
infrastructure
in
place
and
the
talent
to
fill
these
jobs
and,
as
I
mentioned,
common
Spirit
right
now
is
dealing
with
this
issue.
N
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
physical
Center.
We
propose
a
physical
Center
connected
to
the
speed
School
of
Engineering
on
our
campus,
which
is
right
on
the
I-65
Corridor.
So
you
can
access
this
from
anywhere
in
the
state.
You
can
spread
this
throughout
the
state
easily.
You
can
get
to
us
from
Eastern
Kentucky
or
West
Kentucky
or
Central
Kentucky
at
the
University
of
Louisville,
that's
connected
to
our
engineering
college.
So
we
can
have
the
programs
easily
accessible
for
our
students
and
researchers
and
we
can
have
all
the
organizations
there.
N
So
why
uofl,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
already
attracted
significant
funding
from
the
National
Security
Agency,
as
well
as
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security,
we're
the
only
research
one
University,
so
a
leading
research
University
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
that
has
these
designations
from
the
NSA
and
DHS.
So
we're
we're
ready
to
do
this.
N
Work
for
the
state
of
Kentucky,
with
our
collaborative
Network
across
the
state
we're
already
building
Partnerships
with
the
University
of
Kentucky
Eastern
Kentucky,
University,
Northern,
Kentucky,
University
Murray
State,
to
make
sure
that
we
do
this
in
the
right
way,
because
we
know
in
order
to
provide
this
training,
it
has
to
be
done
at
the
site.
You
can't
do
this
training
just
at
the
University,
a
little
SV
done.
Also.
N
You
know
at
this
location
at
Murray
State,
with
our
our
experts
and
our
instructors
that
are
trained
there
at
those
universities
across
and
and
other
institutions
across
the
state
of
Kentucky.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Dr
Alma
gravy
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
programs
we've
built
at
uofl
and
what
exactly
cyber
ranges
are.
O
Next
week,
actually,
yes,
hi,
we've
been
working
on
this
for
many
many
years
we
started
having
interest
in
cyber
security
before
it
was
called
cyber
security.
We
called
it
at
the
time
Network
and
the
information
security
we
created
graduate
training
in
it.
We
collaborated
in
bringing
to
Kentucky
the
Kentucky
Regional
forensic
Center,
and
we
developed
a
lot
of
training
and
investment
came
mainly
from
NSA
and
DHS.
O
We
already
had
10
million
dollars
in
investment
over
the
last
two
years
alone,
we
started
in
2017
building
our
cyber
range
from
a
grant,
also
from
NSA,
and
we're
capable
of
having
up
to
200
individuals
access
this
cyber
range.
However,
with
time
and
investment
it,
our
needs
keep
growing
and
we
want
to
scale
it
up
to
be
practical
for
law
enforcement
for
disaster
and
for
a
response
for
different
agency.
O
It
comes
with
having
a
technical
support,
dedicated
Personnel,
because
right
now
we're
stealing
time
from
faculty
and
students
who
are
not
100
dedicated
to
the
Cyber
range,
and
that
is
a
bottleneck
as
centers
of
excellence,
We
Are
One,
unique
University
to
have
two
centers
of
academic
Excellence,
designation
by
NSA
and
DHS
at
the
undergraduate
level
in
the
business
school
and
The
Graduate
level
at
the
School
of
Engineering.
We
have
worked
a
lot
to
develop
this
expertise
over
the
years.
O
It's
been
renewed
multiple
times
and
we're
very
proud
of
it,
and
we
feel
that
with
developing
our
expertise,
we
need
to
further
it
and
spread
it
across
the
state,
and
we
have
collaborations
with
community
colleges
already
on
grants
and
with
other
Union
universities
on
grants,
and
we
lead
consortia
with
at
least
12
other
universities
Nationwide,
and
we
are
training
right
now.
High
School
teachers
on
a
nsea
grant
to
be
able
to
teach
at
high
school
level
cyber
security.
P
You
will
this
slide,
gives
us
an
example
of
the
types
of
programs
that
we
already
have
experience
with
and
prepared
to
deliver
in
year.
One
we
can
expand
this,
obviously,
with
the
support
of
the
Commonwealth
and
the
center
that
that
we're
proposing
the
first
one
on
the
left
is
a
grant
that
was
sponsored
through
the
Department
of
Defense
that
came
through
the
Commonwealth
of
Kentucky,
which
was
focused
on
developing
certification
skills.
So
I
think
you
all
are
already
aware.
P
We
have
six
designated
centers
of
academic
excellence
in
the
state
that
are
working
on
degree
programs,
but
these
are
non-degree
programs.
If
you
want
to
be
nimble
and
responsive
to
the
workforce,
we
have
to
have
things
that
can
be
done
more
quickly
than
a
two-year
or
four-year
degree.
So
this
is
an
example
of
one
of
those
that
uses
industry
certifications
and
has
produced
184
graduates.
So
far
out
of
that
program,
the
one
in
the
center
discusses
one
of
the
projects
that
our
colleague
Michael
losavio,
has
helped
lead
at
the
University
of
Louisville.
P
That
was
sponsored
by
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security,
which
is
focused
on
law
enforcement
and
preparing
them
for
forensic
investigation.
The
types
of
cases
that
they're
seeing
in
cyber
security.
One
of
the
lessons
that
we
learned
from
this
is
the
importance
of
putting
the
training
out
in
the
state.
So
that
was
a
a
new
addition
and
something
that
I
think
would
be
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
replicate
through
the
state
to
have
Hands-On
Labs,
where
the
Learners
can
actually
be
in
front
of
a
person
that
are
supporting
them
through
that
that
lab
work.
P
The
other
one
Dr
Montgomery
has
already
mentioned
the
national
cyber
teaching
Academy
again
important
for
us
to
prepare
that
next
generation
of
cyber
Defender
we
have
to
start
early,
and
so
these
are
examples
of
things
that
the
University
of
Louisville
has
helped
lead
both
within
the
state
and
also
with
national
coalitions
of
other
universities.
The
next
slide
shows
those
National
centers
of
academic
Excellence
schools.
The
ones
in
yellow
are
the
counties
where
those
schools
are
located.
The
green
counties
are
the
ones
where
we
have
Regional
affiliations
as
well.
P
There
are
still
gaps,
so
one
of
the
things
we
definitely
need
to
do
is
expand
the
reach
of
these
National
centers
of
academic
excellence
in
cyber
defense.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we'll
also
be
able
to
do
through
this
center
with
our
leadership
and
experience
first
designated
in
2007.
So
we've
been
doing
this
for
a
while.
Q
Q
Q
In
our
cyber
security
Center,
we
will
offer
to
Academia
industry
and
government
opportunities
to
partner
in
research
and
operations
in
ways
and
at
top
secret
levels.
Never
before
experienced
in
our
state
over
one
billion
dollars
in
federal
funds
have
been
made
available
in
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law.
This
will
put
money
into
the
hands
of
state
and
local
government
to
mitigate
against
attacks
and
prevent
exposure
of
sensitive
data.
As
a
result
of
data
breaches,
185
million
dollars
was
made
available
to
States
and
local
governments
this
year
in
2022..
Q
We
need
to
get
our
hands
on
that
money.
In
my
view,
the
legislative
and
executive
branches
of
our
state
government
should
take
immediate
action
to
provide
funds
and
policy
support
to
implement
this
initiative
to
establish
a
Kentucky
cyber
security
Center.
It
will
float
all
the
boats
in
Kentucky,
regardless
of
income,
location,
industry
or
political
party,
and
it
is
a
great
business
solution
to
increasing
individual
and
corporate
income,
as
well
as
revenue
for
our
state.
Q
I
want
to
thank
this
committee,
and
especially
senator
nemas
for
your
time
and
support
for
this
very
important
and
initiative
and
get
in
front
of
one
of
the
biggest
problems
that
we
have
faced
in
this
state
and
it's
coming
our
way.
We
need
to
be
prepared
for
it
and
I
look
forward
to
your
questions.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
say
this,
but
I
think
I
can
probably
not
a
bigger
fan
of
cyber
security
initiatives
than
me
in
this
legislature,
but
also
I'm,
the
least
fan
of
Biometrics.
So
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
on
this
little
piece
you
have
on
slide,
whatever
I
don't
think
has
a
number
where
it
talks
about
cyber
training
and
Biometrics
research.
I
understand
that
sometimes
goes
with
the
turf,
but
this
is
where
I
am
a
split
personality.
O
Yeah
absolutely
Senator
I'm
glad
you
asked
because
we're
doing
work
related
actually
in
smart
cities
and
we
avoided
identifying
persons
or
even
cars.
But
the
Biometrics
piece
of
research
was
a
small
part
of
a
grant
from
NSA
and
was
keyboard
and
mouse
Biometrics
to
make
sure
if
you're
in
your
office
and
left
for
a
few
minutes-
and
someone
came
in
it's
recognized
that
this
is
not
you.
So
it's
not
identifying
you
for
tracking,
but
it's
for
your
own
security.
O
N
Well
and
I
think
your
question
is
to
ethics,
correct,
so
the
ethical
implications
of
biometric
research
and
that's
absolutely
critical
and
a
core
component
of
the
research
activity
that
we
conducted
at
the
University
of
Louisville's
around
ethics
within
cyber
security
and
making
sure
we're
using
this
data
in
a
compliant
effective
way,
not
only
compliant
but
going
above
and
beyond
that
doing
that
immorally
capable
way.
I.
O
Just
moderated
and
the
AI
ethics
panel
last
week,
so
we
are
very
conscious
about
ethics
there.
It
was
on
campus,
attended
by
students
and
faculty
from
various
departments
from
philosophy
to
psychology
to
engineering,
and
we
are
very
conscious
about
the
ethics
of
AI
and
Biometrics
uses
AI
at
the
end.
So
thank
you
for
that
concern.
A
I
think
the
colonel
could
probably
answer
this
because
the
highest
level,
the
military,
Biometrics
or
whatever
they've
been
cleared
with
substantial
amount
of
research
on
the
person
using
this
and
you're
just
confirming
that's
the
person.
That's
been.
Q
Well,
you
know
your
question
hits
really
close
to
home
to
NSA
we
had
a,
we
had
an
employee,
his
name
was
Snowden.
You,
some
of
you
may
remember.
Insider
threat
when
it
comes
to
cyber
security
is
a
big
problem.
Q
Q
Biometrics
is
a
mechanism
we
can
use,
there's
a
lot
of
uses
you
can
use,
and
we
have
to
be
very
careful
about
how
we
develop
Biometrics,
okay,
but
we've
got
to
be
very
watchful
of
who
we
allow
on
our
I.T
networks,
because
everybody
today
is
on
those
networks,
but
when
you
get
into
systems
Administration,
there's
roles
and
responsibilities
that
each
of
us
play
and
when
we're
assigned
a
computer
at
NSA,
for
example,
that
computer
is
identified
to
us
and
we
need
to
know
who's
on
that
computer.
Q
A
K
West,
thank
you
Mr
chairman.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation,
so
this
initial
seed
money
would
be
State
dollars
in
some
form
or
fashion,
to
stand.
This
thing
up,
pull
down
federal
funds
and
that's
that's
great
I'm,
assuming
this
is
a
big
problem
for
the
state
of
Kentucky.
K
Obviously,
cyber
security,
so
two
I
got
a
two-part
question,
so
the
first
part
is:
how
would
you
all
if
this
thing
was
stood
up,
work
with
cot
and
help
us
with
our
own
problems
as
a
Stakes,
because
I'm,
assuming
you
know,
if
we're
going
to
provide
funds
that
you
would
in
turn
help
help
us
so.
I
N
Do
is
allow
us
to
build
this,
a
really
confident
and
effective
way,
so
we're
building
it
comprehensively
and
filling
the
critical
needs
of
the
state.
First
and
that's
public
works,
that's
you
know
access.
So,
if
you
think
about
it
right,
Public,
Utilities,
Water,
Systems,
Energy,
Systems.
These
things
are
all
key
threats,
our
key
targets
for
the
cyber
security
threats,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
those
are
secure.
Q
I'll,
add
to
that,
so
we
work
with
the
state
of
Georgia
there's
a
cyber
security
Center
in
the
state
of
Georgia.
We
had
the
vice
president
of
Augusta.
University
testified
with
us
in
August,
as
you
remember,
I
invited
him
to
come
to
do
that,
because
it's
such
a
successful
program
for
that
state
generated
1.9
billion
dollars
of
new
Revenue
30
000
jobs,
but
what
it
really
did
is
it
provided
now
unbiased
political
advice
when
they
have
cyber
problems.
Q
You
saw
what
just
happened
recently
this
year
in
the
state
of
Virginia,
where
they
had
a
Cyber
attack
and
shut
their
state
I.T
system
down.
Okay,
the
Cyber
Center
pulls
all
the
resources
together,
not
just
in
government,
not
just
in
Academia,
but
in
Industry
as
well.
That's
a
three-way
partnership
that
we
don't
have
right
now,
that's
working
and
focused
on
this.
You
need
that
advice.
The
governor
needs
that
advice.
When
we
have
a
catastrophe
that
attacks
our
utilities
or
or
one
of
our
manufacturing
Transportation
whatever
it
is,
we
need
immediate
action.
Q
That's
what
that
range
is
going
to
do.
The
range
will
assess
in
ahead
of
time
by
taking
in
data
just
like
the
ranges
we
put
in
down
in
Georgia,
where
Department
of
energy
is
down
there
now
and
they're,
taking
their
utility
grid
structure.
So
when
they
have
a
problem,
they
get
a
Cyber
attack
on
the
grid
system.
They
already
have
the
data,
they
already
have
the
3D
models.
They
can
immediately
advise
the
legislature
and
the
and
the
governor
as
to
what
the
problem
is,
how
severe
it
is.
Q
What
action
needs
to
be
taken
in
what
order
they
need
and
what
the
cost
is.
So
we
can
go
to
federal
funds
and
get
that
money.
We
don't
have
any
of
those
ranges
here
and
so
I
think
the
cyber
security
Center
is
not
only
going
to
produce
great
jobs
for
this
state.
We
have
700
000
vacant
jobs
in
the
United
States.
Why
is
that?
Because
they're
not
qualified
they're,
not
qualified.
Q
The
federal
government
put
together
the
center
of
excellence
in
cyber
security
program
for
Academia,
because
they
were
graduating
people
who
weren't
qualified
to
do
the
job.
Okay,
this
state
has
over
50
colleges
and
universities.
We
only
have
six
centers
of
academic
excellence
in
cyber
security.
We
need
to
start
early
K-12
when
we
brought
in
high
school
students
in
Georgia
and
asked
them
at
the
beginning
of
the
day.
How
many
of
you
people
are
thinking
about
a
career
in
cyber
security?
Not
one
ham
went
up,
nobody
knew
anything
their
parents
weren't
working
in
cyber
security.
Q
Some
of
those
kids
didn't
have
computers,
okay,
when
we
got
done
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Almost
all
the
kids
wanted
to
be
working
in
cyber
security.
These
are
high,
paying
jobs
too.
It's
going
to
up
the
income
level
for
our
our
people
in
this
state
give
them
great
jobs.
Jobs
are
out
there.
We
just
need
to
get
them
qualified.
We
need
to
get
them
interested
early.
Q
K
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that
that's
an
excellent
answer.
The
first
question.
Second
question
kind
of
dovetails
with
Center
southworth's
question:
it's
more
of
an
ethical
question,
so
we're
providing
the
funds
we're,
hopefully
getting
these
good
federal
grants
and
standing
this
up
and
so
you're
helping
the
state
helping
us
deal
with
our
own
malware
problems
and
all
the
other
Associated
problems
that
are
that
are
out
there.
K
How
can
we
know
well,
I,
guess,
explain:
first,
how
would
the
information
sharing
happen?
So
would
there
be
a
firewall
between
our
information
at
the
state
and
the
federal
government?
What
kind
of
what
kind
of
confidence
can
we
have
that
our
information
as
a
state
will
be
protected?
Well.
N
That
that's
another
excellent
question:
Senator
West,
so
at
the
grant
level,
so
the
grants
you
know
we,
we
have
extensive
experience
with
Grant
mechanisms
at
the
University
of
Louisville,
and
so
we
understand
how
to
enter
in
those
agreements
with
data
use
agreements.
As
you
know,
all
the
legal
mechanisms
to
make
sure
that
our
information,
our
critical
information
at
the
state
level
and
the
university
level
is
protected
and
secure.
N
So
there
absolutely
is
just
because
you
receive
grant
funding
does
not
mean
that
you
automatically
have
to
give
all
of
your
information
at
the
state
level
over
to
the
federal
government.
We
would
never
enter
into
an
agreement
like
that,
so
protecting
the
state's
critical
assets
or
absolutely
at
the
core
of
what
we
do
and
that's
it
goes
all
the
way
down
to
the
individual
user
data
right.
So
you
know
you
think
about
protected
health
information.
What
information
of
the
patients
is
protected?
N
We
absolutely
make
sure
that
we're
following
all
the
applicable
state
and
federal
rules
to
comply
with
the
requirements
at
the
you
know
of
each
individual
agreement,
but
also
going
above
and
beyond
that,
as
I
mentioned
to
Senator
southworth's
question
about
what
are
the
ethical
implications
of
this
new
technology
so
to
making
sure
that
we're
doing
things
in
the
right
way
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
for
the
citizens
of
Kentucky
right,
so
we're
all
Kentucky
citizens.
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
that's
that
that's
at
the
Forefront
of
what
we
do
so
Dr
Wright.
P
I,
would
simply
add
that
the
the
architecture
of
the
Cyber
range
is
really
important
for
us
to
get
right,
because
you
can
create
different
computer
architectures
that
make
it
much
easier
to
protect
that
data
and
to
segregate
it
so
hybrid
Cloud
versus
multi-public
cloud,
and
what
we're
talking
about
is
something
that
would
be
in
that
hybrid
domain,
which
would
make
it
easier
for
us
to
do
that
protection.
So
the
legal
Agreements
are
essential
and
that
helps
Drive
what
we
have
to
do,
architecturally
to
deliver
on
that.
Thank.
A
You
appreciate
it
good
question,
but
I
think
cyber
security
securing
our
our
is
is
securing
our
information
without
the
cyber
security.
We
have
hackers
we're,
not
not
the
federal
government
but
the
hackers
getting
the
information
going
overseas
to
Russia
or
China
or
something
so.
We
have
representative
Miller.
I
Over
here
trying
to
get
an
understanding
of
how
far
behind
Kentucky
is
so
maybe
there's
a
better
metric,
but
in
my
mind,
in
in
terms
of
share
of
federal
funding.
Right
now
are
we
in
the
Boston
quintile
or
the
top
quintile.
What
would
you
say?
We
are
right
right
at
this
moment.
N
Yeah
another
great
question,
representative
Miller,
so
the
state
of
Kentucky
is
what's
known
as
an
EP
score
state
from
a
federal
funding
perspective.
So
that
means
that
we
are
in
the
bottom
quintile
of
federal
fund.
N
So
that
includes
cyber
security
funding.
We
have
some
excellent
researchers
with
us
here
today.
Who've
been
very
successful
individually,
but
in
order
to
be
competitive,
you
know
with
other
states
like
Massachusetts
or
even
Illinois.
We
have
to
make
these
Investments
now
and.
C
N
B
N
So
it's
a
massive
opportunity:
we've
set
ourselves
up
up
in
the
right
way
to
be
able
to
be
competitive
for
that
right.
We've
attracted
these
faculty
members
with
us
here
today.
We've
had
some
initial
success
with
NSA
and
DHS,
but
to
continue
that
it's
time
for
that
investment
to
grow
this
at
a
strategic
level.
So
it's
an
excellent
question.
Thank
you.
Miller.
H
Candy,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
over
here,
another
side.
So
let's
say
this
money,
Finds
Its
way
into
a
budget.
K
C
H
Subcommittee
in
the
future
will
do
some
some,
you
know
its
job,
which
is
to
make
sure
the
money
is
being
spent
properly.
What
are
the
metrics
that
and
the
data
that
should
be
produced-
and
this
committee
should
be
asking
you
all
about
in
two
years
and
five
years
to
see
if,
if
it's
a
success
and
if
the
money's
being
spent
correctly.
N
Yeah
absolutely
great
question,
so
the
first
step
here
is
to
build
that
plan,
so
that
plan
will
come
with
metrics,
so
we
have
to
make
these
first
critical,
hires
right
so
get
that
executive
director
get
the
plan
for
the
building
in
place,
get
mous
with
the
companies
in
place
that
we
know
want
to
be
in
the
space.
We
know
there's
demand
based
upon
the
success
we've
had,
but
we
don't
know
exactly
how
much
demand.
N
So
we
want
to
build
that
out
effectively,
but
at
the
very
highest
level
the
success
will
be
increase
in
Federal
grant
r
d
dollars
coming
to
the
state
of
Kentucky
as
a
whole.
Right
now,
as
mentioned,
we
have
about
10
million
dollars
in
this
type
of
funding.
We
think
that
can
be
a
10x
of
that
realistically
within
a
decade,
so
we
think
we
can
have
a
hundred
million
dollars
of
federal
funding
coming
in
for
this
type
of
research,
the
number
of
people
trained
is
critically
important.
N
So,
as
we
mentioned
right
now,
there's
4
000
jobs
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
with
these
credentials
that
are
unfilled,
so
we
think
we
can
fill
all
four
thousand
those
jobs
right.
So
that's
an
easy
metric
to
click
off
the
number
of
people
trained
and
the
success
of
them
obtaining
the
jobs
of
today
and
tomorrow.
So
putting
people
into
positions
is
going
to
be
a
key
metric
of
success.
Attracting
companies
to
the
state
of
Kentucky
is
and
retaining
companies
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
is
another
metric
of
success.
N
So
we
want
to
attract
I,
don't
know
the
exact
number,
that's
something
we
need
to
build
out
right
over
this.
You
know
this
planning
period,
this
technical
planning
period,
but
we
want
to
be
competitive
to
attract
and
retain
top
technology-based
companies,
which
is
really
every
company.
Now
right,
you
think
a
technology
company,
you
think
of
Google
and
you
think
of
AWS
Etc,
but
really
every
company
is
a
technology
company.
Now
you
think
about
the
the
company
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
which
is
a
health
care
company
common
spirit.
It's
a
national,
Healthcare
Company.
N
You
see
the
parent
company
of
chi.
That's
really
a
technology
company
right.
They
have
to
have
critical
access
to
technology
in
order
to
function
as
a
healthcare
company,
so
they're
a
technology
company
too.
In
order
to
to
be
the
best
health
care
provider
we
can
be.
We
have
to
have
those
jobs
and
those
trainings
here
to
attract
and
retain
those
stock
company.
So
that's
at
a
high
level
representative
and
answer
your
question
I'm
sure
you
have
follow-ups
on
that,
but.
Q
I'll,
add
to
that.
Okay,
that's
a
great
question:
I
mean
I
love
it.
When
the
you
know,
when
the
elected
officials
ask
what's
the
return
on
investment,
how
many
Investments
is
this
legislative
body
made
in
this
state
and
in
structures
and
Facilities
that
they
did
not
get
a
return
on
the
investment
and
they've
become
a
drag
on
this
state
great
question:
okay,
same
question:
they
ask
in
Georgia.
What's
what's
return
on
my
investment?
Q
The
metrics
ought
to
be
built
on
a
variety
of
sectors
like
schools.
We
have
gen
cyber
cyber
Patriot
programs,
Across
the
Nation
that
are
training,
K-12,
kids,
we're
not
doing
real
good
in
this
state.
You
ought
to
have
that
as
a
metric.
What
are
we
doing
to
educate
and
develop
our
Workforce,
our
kids,
so
that
they
can
compete
for
some
of
these
high-paying
jobs
that
ought
to
be
a
metric?
Okay.
Q
Q
George
I
asked
that
question
the
Georgia
cyber
Center
at
Augusta
University
is
profitable.
Now
they
pay
their
own
salaries.
They
pay
for
the
upkeep
of
the
building,
the
maintenance
refresh
of
the
I.T
and
they're
building
another
building
now
and
they're,
not
asking
for
State
funding.
It's
a
profit,
it's
so
profitable
that
they've
had
to
put
together
a
non-profit
organization
to
take
all
the
money
because
of
the
state
rules
on
salaries
and
spending
and
holding
over
money.
That's
what
you
ought
to
expect
from
the
Cyber
Center.
This
is
a
big
money
maker
for
this
state.
Q
It's
not
only
going
to
improve
your
Workforce.
It's
not
only
going
to
bring
industry,
bring
more
taxes
to
this
state,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
a
burden
on
you
you're,
going
to
make
money
off
of
this
and
there's
money
out
there
all
this
Federal
money.
We
don't
have
qualified
people
not
only
to
take
the
jobs.
We
don't
have
qualified
organizations
to
take
all
this
billions
and
billions
of
money
you
got
to
get
in
the
game.
You
got
to
get
in
the
game,
Colonel.
Q
It
was
1.9
billion
dollars.
P
I
R
R
Have
there
been
discussions
in
regards
to
you
all
talking
with
the
the
K
through
12,
the
Department
of
Education,
how
to
set
up
a
curriculum
where
to
start
that
curriculum?
What
grades
to
start
that
curriculum
in
I'll
tell
you
these
kids,
who
are
three
and
four
years
old.
They
pick
up
on
a
lot
of
stuff
that
you
know
I'm
a
senior
now
and
I
have
to
go
back
and
ask
them
how?
How
does
this
work
I
mean?
R
Many
of
us
are
like
that,
but
for
those
who
are
young,
they
pick
it
up.
Really
quick!
So
have
there
been
discussions
as
to
how
you
can
proceed
in
developing
a
program
that
you
can
Implement
and
put
into
operations,
not
operations,
but
in
terms
of
curriculum?
I
would
say
that
would
help
build
upon
that.
So,
when
the
kids
are
in
middle
school,
they
take
it
to
a
higher
level
and
by
the
time
they
graduate
from
high
school,
they
are
I.
Don't
want
to
say
experts,
but
they
on
the
pathway
to
being
experts.
R
Can
you
address
that
any
of.
N
That
absolutely
another
excellent
question.
So
it's
about
exposure
right,
so
exposure
to
what
the
potentials
are
and
I.
We
are
developing
those
programs
right
now,
I'll
ask
Dr
El
magrabi
to
elaborate
on
that
exactly
what
those
programs
that
we're
running
are,
but
it's
something
we
have.
We
have
grant
funding
actually
to
do
this
from
the
NSF
to
build
Pathways
with
some
school
systems,
but
something
that
needs
to
be
expanded
throughout
the
state,
and
so
that's
what
this
Center
is
proposed
to
do.
O
Yeah,
the
most
of
the
grant
money
so
far
that
we
have
was
related
to
Stem
in
general,
with
the
beginning
for
cyber
I'm
involved
in
a
National
Coalition
of
Coalition
I
lead
the
southeast
Coalition
for
high
school
teacher
training.
So
I
have
scholarship
right
now
for
30
High,
School
teachers,
five
of
them
dropped
up.
You
know,
dropped
out,
they
weren't
as
qualified.
So
we
are
now
created
another
Coalition
and
got
some
seed
money
from
NSA
to
start
training,
High
School
teachers
to
be
able
to
train
on
Cyber.
O
So
we'll
you
see
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
effort,
so
we're
having
multiple
coalitions.
Nationwide
that
I'm
part
of
that.
We
are
working
on
figuring
out
the
best
path
to
prepare
High
School
teachers
for
that
for
middle
school
and
lower
level.
There
is
cyber
gen
and
other
things
which
exposes
the
students,
but
not
in
a
formal
education
way
just
to
get
them,
and
some
of
my
students
in
other
states
in
actually
in
in
Kennesaw
State,
for
example,
got
one
of
these
grants
and
we're
collaborating
to
learn
from
their
experience.
N
F
N
A
representative
koenig's
a
question:
this
will
be
one
of
the
metrics
that
we
track
is
the
number
of
of
high
school
training,
programs
and
schools
that
we
engage
and
that's
Middle
School
through
high
school.
So
how
do
we
engage
those
schools?
How
effective
is
it
and
what's
that
pipeline
to
success,
because
not
every
cyber
security
job
requires
a
college
degree,
so
certificates
are
extremely
important.
Other
alternative
Pathways
to
success
are
extremely
important
and
these
are
high
paying
jobs.
This
is
not.
You
know
you
graduate
from
high
school
and
you're
stuck
in
a
dead-end
job.
A
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
We
have
another
presenter,
but
I've
got
two
things
that
like
for
you
to
quickly
I
know
you
can
talk
all
day
on
it,
but
quickly
respond
to
is
how
businesses
and
government
and
education
are
going
to
work
within
your
facility
and
real
quickly
talk
about
how
you've
already
talked
with
and
how
excited
these
entities
are
on
this
Center
cot
KSP,
Secret
Service,
the
universities
and
the
FBI.
N
Yeah
so
excellent
question:
it's
about
creating
this,
this
ecosystem
that
is
necessary
to
make
this
type
of
work
successful.
So
you
have
to
attract
the
companies
that
are
interested
in
this
space.
Being
there,
co-located
at
site
is
really
important
to
create
a
vibrant
Dynamic
environment,
where
people
can
make
connections
with
peers
and
understand
challenges
they're
facing,
and
so
companies
are
critical
to
that.
Critical
state
and
federal
infrastructure
is
important
to
that,
as
well
as
our
research
and
student
infrastructure,
so
I'll.
Let
the
colonel
answer.
This
question
as
well.
Q
You
build
it.
They'll
come
Disney
found
that
out
when
he
built
Disneyland
out
in
Anaheim
problem.
Wasn't
that
you
didn't
have
people
wanted
to
come
there
Place
wasn't
big
enough.
He
needed
bigger
space.
They
found
the
same
problem
in
Colorado
Colorado
built
the
Cyber
setup
out
there
they
focused
on
the
Aerospace
industry.
They
found
out.
They
ran
out
of
space,
real
quick,
Georgia's,
the
same
way
they
built.
You
know:
350
000
square
foot,
two
buildings
and
they're
already
having
to
build
the
next
one.
Why
is
that
they're
out
of
space?
Everybody
wants
it.
Q
They
brought
industry
into
the
state,
all
the
industry
Partners.
They
all
wanted
to
get
into
the
facility.
They
would
have
taken
all
the
space
up,
but
we
had
to
earmark
some
of
that
for
Academia
and
for
government,
so
they
they
made.
The
industry
pay
a
lot
more
per
square
footage
they
still
in.
They
still
wanted
more
space.
We
could
give
them.
Academia
is
building
PHD
programs
now
in
in
Georgia,
in
cyber
security.
I'm,
not
aware
of
one
PhD
program
here
in
this
state,
okay,
and
so
Academia
is
asking
for
classroom
space
in
these
buildings.
Q
Right
government
is
coming
in
there
because
of
all
the
Cyber
problems
we
have.
We
gave
a
talk
to
the
Kentucky
cyber
fraud
task
force
here,
they're
inundated
with
cyber
problems,
and
so
the
issue
is
going
to
be
if
we
fund
these
first
two
buildings,
really
your
question
should
be:
who
are
you
going
to
give
the
space
to?
How
are
you
going
to
prioritize
who's
coming
in?
Because
the
demand
is
going
to
exceed
the
the
capacity
okay
and
then
how
are
you
going
to
fund
future
buildings
and
we
ought
to
be?
Q
This
should
be
for
profit.
It
should
be
that
we're
going
to
become
self-sustaining
and
a
great
profit
builder
for
this
state,
so
we're
not
only
going
to
educate
our
kids,
we're
not
only
going
to
provide
Workforce
to
the
nation,
but
to
this
state
high,
paying
jobs,
but
we're
going
to
bring
a
lot
of
industry
in
this
state
that
doesn't
exist
right
now.
Okay,
because.
A
We
got
to
invest
in
it.
Thank
you,
Colonel
I'll
answer
my
second
question
myself,
so
y'all
don't
go
on
and
on
you
have
already
told
you've
already
told
me
that
the
cot
KSP,
the
Secret
Service
universities,
like
the
University
of
Cumberlands
and
the
FBI,
have
already
expressed
an
interest
and
wanted
to
testify.
But,
as
you
can
see,
we
don't
have
time
all
day
to
have
all
of
these
entities
testify
to
that
they
want
to
be
involved.
So
if
there
are
no
further
questions,
we
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
A
R
S
Good
morning
my
name
is
Brian
gupton
I
am
the
CEO
of
data
scene
data
seems
a
private
501c3
research,
education
and
Workforce
Development
organization
based
in
Louisville.
We
currently
serve
48
of
174
Kentucky
districts
representing
just
over
200
000
students.
Our
initial
mission
was
to
provide
Computing
infrastructure,
advancing
kentucky-based
research,
Innovation
and
commercialization.
S
The
byproduct
of
this
goal
was
providing
high-end
technology
earned
by
districts
through
local
Workforce
improvements.
This
has
been
a
consistent
carry
through
for
nearly
20
years
when
this
program
initially
started,
data
seemed
conceptualized
built
and
operated
a
proprietary
supercomputing
grid
to
accelerate
cancer
therapy
Discovery
for
the
University
of
Louisville's
Brown
Cancer
Center,
the
startup
was
a
self-funded
proof
of
concept
in
my
Princeton
Kentucky
Hometown
using
existing
computers
in
the
Caldwell
County
system.
S
The
data
seam
grid
was
designed
to
be
available
around
the
clock
for
research
needs,
including
during
K-12
instructional
use
residing
on
the
robust
cats
Network
common
to
all
schools,
with
no
interference
or
detriment
to
any
user.
Reducing
the
time
and
cost
of
drug
discovery
in
late
2005
data
scene
was
asked
to
scale
this
success
into
our
coal
counties
by
the
Kentucky
Economic
Development
cabinet.
With
two
new
economy
grants
totaling
1.9
million
additional
appropriation
provided
by
the
general
assembly
since
2006
has
allowed
data
seem
to
successfully
continue
the
program
across
numerous
administrations
and
general
assemblies.
S
You
might
ask:
why
do
we
do
this
here?
Well,
in
Kentucky,
cancer
occurrence
is
two
and
a
half
times
the
national
average
data
seam
helps
Drive
cures.
What
does
that
mean
for
the
research?
Well,
one
example
I
would
share
is
that
we
targeting
one
of
the
Holy
Grails
of
cancer
on
the
data
seam
Grid,
it's
a
protein
present
in
85
percent
of
cancers.
If
you
turn
this
protein
off,
you
turn
off
85
percent
of
cancer.
S
Without
the
data
seam
grid,
the
researchers
wouldn't
even
have
thought
to
pursue
it,
and
we
don't
consider
things
like
this
sometimes
happening
in
Kentucky,
but
they
do.
In
fact,
cancer
research
come
to
cancer.
Researchers
come
to
Kentucky
for
the
drug
Discovery
resources
available,
two
from
the
National
Cancer,
Center
or
National
Cancer
Institute
alone
have
stayed
for
it.
They've
found
potential,
Cancer
drugs
and
researchers
would
leave
without
it.
We
have
to
think
about
these
cancer
researchers
just
like
we
would
any
traditional
industry
sector
and
support
them.
S
The
data
seam
grid
assists
Kentucky,
Federal
funding
competitiveness,
59
million
dollars
to
date,
citing
data
seam
as
a
critical
or
the
data
scene
grid
as
a
critical
resource
that
translates
to
147.5
million
dollars
worth
of
economic
impact
for
the
Commonwealth.
With
your
help,
we've
grown
to
Service
as
much
of
a
as
much
as
80
percent
of
the
brown
cancer
research
workload
and
90
patents
filed
so
far
and
30
awarded
that's
not
enough.
Students
in
some
of
the
most
challenged
counties
in
the
United
States
get
the
best
technology
available.
S
S
Both
the
University
of
Louisville
and
Morehead
State
have
funded
the
data
seam
Scholars
Program,
providing
four-year
scholarships
to
students
recruited
from
data
seam
schools
wishing
to
pursue
stem
disciplines,
in
addition
to
both
the
biosciences
and
the
full
array
of
engineering
disciplines
at
uofl,
Moorhead
offers
one
of
the
one
of
five
space
systems.
Engineering
programs
in
the
United
States
data
seam
is
a
pipeline
to
those
outcomes
for
the
students,
and
some
of
you
all
may
be
familiar
with
some
of
this
material.
From
last
week.
We
we
talk
about
data
seam.
S
What
I
just
shared
is
data
scene,
1.0
and
registered
apprenticeship
has
become
data.
Seam
2.0
for
the
program
in
2018.
The
Kentucky
labor
cabinet
asked
data
seam
to
provide
a
full-scale
Department
of
Labor
approved,
registered
apprenticeship
in
information
technology
to
serve
high
school,
juniors
and
seniors.
In
response,
we
developed
a
two-year
competency-based
program
providing
young
kentuckians
training
normally
afforded
to
adults,
including
coursework,
mentorship
and
required
on
job
training.
S
Kentucky
currently
has
tremendous
shortages
in
I.T
sector,
as
we
heard
from
the
previous
presentation:
Community
banking,
Health,
Care
state
and
local
government,
among
others
all
with
openings.
This
program
provides
candidates,
DOL,
Journey
workers,
certification,
certification,
just
like
any
other
skilled
trade
completers
have
the
requisite
skill
sets
and,
most
importantly,
practical
work
experience
as
employees
of
their
school
districts,
preparing
them
to
advance
in
the
profession
on
their
own.
S
To
give
you
an
example
here,
in
our
self-funded
first
cohort,
we
had
a
student
from
Whitley
County
who's
now
at
the
University
of
the
Cumberlands,
he's
going
to
finish
and
go
to
UK
and
major
med
school
go
into
Radiology
because
of
the
registered
apprenticeship
he's
now
managing
computer
labs
at
the
University
of
the
Cumberlands
paying
job
over
in
Hancock
County
who's
who's
with
us.
S
These
successful
efforts
have
helped
data
scene
bring
to
Kentucky
additional
3
million
in
competitive
funding
from
the
Appalachian
Regional
Commission
and
the
Department
of
Labor
to
scale
registered
apprenticeship
in
Eastern
Kentucky.
This
means
two
federal
agencies
have
independently
reviewed
and
scored
data
seams
program
finding
it
provides
a
good
return
on
investment
for
Public
Funding.
S
Because
of
the
outcomes
that
I've
shared
today,
we
were
able
to
work
with
the
schools.
Many
of
you
represent
our
University
partners
and,
lastly,
and
most
importantly,
you,
the
members
of
the
general
assembly,
to
restore
the
data
seam
appropriation.
The
2022
session
provided
seven
million
dollars
over
the
next
two
years.
Reflecting
expansion,
you
provided
us
guidance
to
do.
Data
seems
past
organizational
capacity
to
execute
funding
at
that
amount
and
the
opportunity
to
leverage
state
and
local
funding
for
more
competitiveness
federally
to
grow,
Kentucky
Workforce
efforts,
efforts.
S
It's
going
to
facilitate
adult
Technical
Training
and
expand
I.T
registered
apprenticeships
outside
of
Eastern
Kentucky
and
lastly,
in
addition
to
the
two
million
dollars
worth
of
computing
provided
by
The
Arc
and
the
DOL
grants,
it
will
provide
5.5
million
of
advanced
instructional
technology
over
the
biennium
for
participating
schools,
doing
double
duty
on
the
data
seam
grid
and
curriculum
in
classrooms.
That's
going
to
better
prepare
these
students
to
be
a
part
of
Kentucky's
Workforce,
no
matter
where
they
go
to
college
and
maybe
with
the
registered
apprenticeship,
even
if
they
don't.
S
A
Might
think,
thank
you
for
your
quick,
informative
presentation
and
I
have
to
go
a
little
further
with
the
registered
apprenticeship.
As
everyone
knows,
I
always
try
to
push
that
I
was
there
when
we
worked
with
you
on
that
and
registered
apprenticeship
is
not
just
construction.
It's
I.T,
nursing
and
anything
that
you
can
earn.
A
While
you
learn
it's
a
great
way
to
do
away
with
or
limit
student
loans
and,
as
you
say,
you're
starting
out
with
the
job
much
higher
than
probably
the
average
college
grad
with
a
diploma
coming
out
in
the
the
money
that
we
put
forth
for
you
in
the
last
session,
I
know
you
had
a
contract
that
you
submitted
to
the
cabinet
and
they
sent
back
another
contract.
Can
you
tell
me
where
that
is
right
now.
S
Thank
you
for
that
and
that's
correct.
We
have
been
presented
a
contract
by
the
department
and
upon
review
we
were
advised
not
to
sign
it.
This
includes
by
our
board
our
legal
counsel,
the
advising
superintendents
and
University
Partners,
who
would
benefit
from
the
appropriation
as
intended.
S
A
Or
keep
me
abreast
of
that,
because
I
hope
that
we
can
get
this
taken
care
of.
H
A
And
I
think
we
will
because
being
in
the
cabinet
I
know
that
attorneys
always
not
only
want
to
dot
the
eyes
and
cross
the
t's,
but
they
sometimes
want
to
put
in
what
they
think
should
or
should
not
be,
and
we
always
had
to
tell
them.
You
need
to
make
it
what
we
want
legal,
not
tell
us
what
you
want.
So
hopefully,
that's,
what's
happened
in
the
cabinet
and
secretary
will
get
them
together
with
you
all
and
have
a
contract
soon.
Are
there
any
questions?
A
K
West,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
been
a
big
supporter
of
Dallas.
We've
had
some
really
good
conversations
appreciate
the
good
work
you
do.
Could
you
I'm
sorry
I
was
unaware
of
this
situation
with
the
contract,
which
is
why
we
have
these
meetings
to
learn
about
these
things.
So
could
you
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
problem
with
the
contract
and
the
specifics?
You
know
why
why
the
universities
are
pushing
back
a
little
bit.
S
You
know,
there's
been
a
legislative,
everybody
kind
of
knows
what
we
do
with
the
program
and
the
contract
as
presented,
would
substantively
change
what
we
do
as
to
what
the
the
you
know,
the
home
agency
would
want
for
us
to
do
with
that
appropriation
versus
you
know,
long
established,
program,
intent
and
just
momentum.
You
know
that
what
we
do
as
a
part
of
cancer
research,
Workforce,
Development
training,
those
sorts
of
things-
does.
S
Well,
the
contractor
you're
an
attorney
I
just
do
real.
S
The
the
contract
as
presented
is
is
unconscionable,
and,
to
give
you
an
example,
one
example
there's
an
assignment
of
copyright
in
that
that
we
we
would
not
be
able
to
adhere
to,
in
fact
so
so,
based
on
based
on
that.
Based
on
that
alone,
the
you
know,
the
Department
of
Education
would
own
the
University
of
Louisville's
cancer
research,
gotcha.