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A
Here,
thank
you.
I'd
like
to
welcome
to
the
table
mr
russ
meyer,
commissioner
of
the
department
of
parts
and
gen
ms
jennifer
linton,
the
executive
director
office
of
facility
development
efficiency.
This
is
a
long
title.
A
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
fellow
members,
great
to
see
you
all
again
and
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
serve
as
your
commissioner
of
parks
and
anything
that
we
can
do.
C
Parks
in
your
area
or
anywhere
in
the
state
always
communicate
with
us
call
me.
We
have
a
great
staff.
As
you
mentioned,
we
have
jennifer
linton
here
with
finance
cabinet,
but
we
also
have
here
today.
I
want
to
introduce
rob
richards,
who
is
in
our
finance
division,
director
of
finance
for
parks
and
mike
swatzina,
who
is
in
facilities
and
just
want
to.
C
It's
much
needed
and
we're
excited
to
formulate
that
plan
and
submit
that
to
you
all
in
december
for
final
approval
and
move
forward
and
and
make
our
parks
and
continue
our
parks
to
to
be
the
nation's
finest.
C
We'll
continue
on
to
the
to
the
next
slide.
Is
that
me
that
has
to
move
this
or
somebody
else.
What
do
I
do
there.
C
The
bipartisan
investment
kentucky
has
made
into
our
state
parks
was
not
only
critical
but
timely
for
ensuring
our
parks
can
remain
competitive
in
the
tourism
and
hospitality
industries.
Your
commitment
to
our
parks
will
allow
us
to
continue
modernization
efforts
by
funding
essential
preservation,
projects,
maintenance,
repair
and
new
projects.
That
will
continue
to
position
our
parks
to
attract
new
new
visitors,
and
we
do
appreciate
your
commitment,
because
our
the
150
million
that
were
that
you
all
have
appropriated
for
parks.
C
That
we
will
submit
in
december
for
for
the
next
biennium
budget,
we're
going
to
build,
take,
take
projects
that
we
have
on
our
list
and
work
this
from
the
ground
up
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
we're
going
to
do
this
with
infrastructure
projects
and
I'll
I'll
go
through
that
list,
as
we
as
we
have
before
you
fy
2324,
10
million
each
year
general
funding.
This
will
address
the
repair
and
or
replacement
of
equipment.
Mechanical
systems
force
accounts
projects,
fy
24,
the
150
million
bond
funding.
C
We
will
be
addressing
structural
issues
at
lake
barkley
and
jenny
wiley.
As
you
know,
we
had
to
shut
down
the
main
lodge
at
jenny
wiley
last
year
for
approximately
two
months
and
put
about
1.2
million
in
that
to
basically
put
a
band-aid
on
it
to
to
get
us
and
buy
two
or
three
years
the
need.
There
is
going
to
be
north
of
5
million
more,
like
6
million,
to
address
the
fix
at
jenny,
wiley,
so
lake
barkley,
there's
many
structural
needs
there
too
campground
improvements,
statewide,
which
include
utility
upgrades.
C
As
I
said,
infrastructure,
sewer,
regrade
or
expand
site.
Layouts
bath
house
upgrades
camper
cabins
and
wi-fi
and
the
camper
cabins
would
be
a
primitive
cabin
located
in
parks
selected
by
you
know
the
people
within
our
park
system
that
know
where
those
are
going
to
be
successful,
accommodation
upgrades
bedding
flooring,
furniture
bathrooms
soft
goods.
For
an
example,
most
of
our
lodge
rooms
have
double
beds.
C
Life
safety
and
ada
improvements
upgrade
recreational
amenities,
swimming
pools,
golf
courses
and
tennis
courts,
and
what
we're
talking
about
with
the
courts
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
pickleball,
which
is
one
of
the
fastest
growing
sports
in
america
and
take
some
select
parks
across
the
state
which
we,
where
we
think
that
they
will
work
and
start
implementing
pickleball
roof
and
exterior
building
repairs,
siding
painting,
gutters
windows,
site
improvements,
walkways
lighting,
concrete
repair,
stairways
drainage.
C
You
know
most
of
our
lodges,
which
were
built
in
the
60s
and
70s,
need
some
major
improvements
in
these
walkway
areas.
As
you
all
know,
if
you've
been
there
so
with
that
said,
I
would
say
that
would
would
be
what
I
call
a
you
know:
structural
repairs
throughout
state
parks,
next
steps,
we
will
identify
opportunities
with
local
government
and
or
private
entities
to
share
capital
costs,
and
that
addresses
what
you
all
put
in
the
the
final
budget
bill.
C
Where
we
would,
we
shall
take
a
a
look
at
how
we
can
have
p3
opportunities
or
local
government
sharing
opportunities
in
any
of
these
projects
that
we
have
and
we
are
putting
plans
together
to
develop
those
relationships
and
and
work
through
that
and
any
opportunities
that
we
feel
in
these
projects
would
benefit
from
a
p3
or
a
shared
public
entity.
C
We
will
be
addressing
that
at
that
time,
if
applicable,
if
applicable,
pursue
market
analysis,
studies
for
key
revenue
facilities,
challenges,
labor
market
to
complete
work,
maintenance,
work,
con
conducive
with
tourist
travel
season,
supply
chain
constraints,
delays
with
vendors,
inflation
of
labor
and
materials,
and
that's
just
going
to
be
our
challenges
that
we
know
that
that
we've
got
for
the
future
in
completing
all
these
projects.
A
In
2018,
the
general
assembly
provided
50
million
dollars
in
bond
funds
to
go
for
needed,
maintenance
and
upgrades,
etc.
Some
of
the
things
you've
been
talking
about
the
most
recent
information
available
to
the
lrc
is
that
only
seven
and
a
half
million
has
been
expended.
C
Well,
that's
where
miss
linton
comes
in
here
and
she's.
That's
in
that's
her
presentation
and
that's
going
to
answer
those
questions
and
then
I
feel
like
after
her
presentation,
that's
going
to
be
the
best
time
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
about
that
and
I've
heard
miss
linton's
presentation
may
bring
other
questions
on
and
answer
those
questions.
So,
okay,
I'm
not
passing,
but
but
I
think
that's
probably
the
the
the
right
way
to
handle
that
miss.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
This
morning
you
mentioned
the
the
jenny
wiley
in
my
area.
The
three
parks
that
more
closely
related
to
where
I
live
and
where
I
represent,
is
are
jenny.
Wiley,
natural
bridge
and
carter
caves
is
the
jenny
wiley.
D
Maybe
closing
down
one
of
those
parks
I
mean,
I
know
you
talked
about
the
jenny
wiley.
I
I
don't
really
know.
I
guess
the
question
is
how
how
much
use
is
jenny,
wiley
and
even
natural
bridge
and
carter
caves?
Getting
now
I
mean,
what's
the
capacity
of
the
usage,
how
many
people
are
coming
there,
how
many
people
are
using
the
facilities?
D
C
At
jenny,
wild,
okay,
well,
first,
we
can
get
you
just
give
us
time,
we'll
get
you
any
information
you
want
on
on
those
three
parks
on
on
how
they're
performing
how
they're
doing
I'd
rather
get
you,
the
the
black
and
white
and
red
of
it
then
answer
that
question
that
way,
but,
but
I
can
tell
you
natural
bridge
is-
is
busy
busy
busy
that
that
area,
the
red
river
gorge
that
has
has
taken
off
since
covid,
and
it's
it's
probably
one
of
our
busier
busiest
parks
from
an
accommodation
standpoint.
C
So
I
don't
know
that
it
has
has
fallen
off
jenny
wiley,
you
know,
there's
been
some
challenges
there
with.
You
know
the
lodge
itself.
I
I
think
that
you
know
as
as
parks
go.
C
You
know
our
time
to
reinvest
in
parks
was
was
probably
about
13
years
ago,
when
the
recession
hit,
and
then
we
started
cutting
as
a
state
and
as
we
cut
and
cut
and
cut,
we
left
a
lot
of
things
behind
and
parks.
Was
you
know
one
of
those
things
we
left
behind
as
as
a
state
as
as
a
legislature,
and
you
know
no
fault
to
anyone.
C
Just
other
than
going
through
a
recession
and
try
to
battle
your
way
out
of
it,
and
you
know
that
I
know
that,
but
but
now's
the
time
to
reinvest
and
and
give
these
parks
that
bring
so
much
to
all
our
communities
across
the
state,
an
opportunity
to
perform
and
work
and
you're
doing
the
right
thing
reinvesting
in
them,
because
they
it's
the
economic
impact
that
jenny
wiley
brings
to
that
region
and
community
in
in
that
area,
and
and
all
you
have
to
do-
is
go
down.
C
I
mean
when
we
go
to
these
parks
and
you
spend
some
time
talking
to
the
county
judges,
mayors,
the
people
in
the
community
that
jenny
wiley
is
one
of
those
parks
that
that
community
is
so
proud
of,
and
they
know
the
impact
of
that
park
and
reinvesting
in
a
park
like
that
is
money
well
spent
for
our
state.
No
doubt,
in
my
mind,
all
you
have
to
do
is
go
talk
to
the
people
in
that
community,
the
elected
officials
in
that
community,
and
they
will.
They
will
stand
behind
that
statement.
C
No
doubt
in
my
mind,
but
you
know
I
can
re
just
reassure
you
that
we're
doing
the
right
thing
this
this
150
million
is
is,
is
a
big
hit
and
gonna
go
a
long
way.
We've
got
a
lot
longer
way
to
go.
You
know,
as
I
came
before
you
all
last
year,
you
know
I
said:
we've
got
250
million
in
half
twos,
you
know,
you've
got
once
needs
and
have
twos.
We've
got
250
million
in
half
to's
across
this
state,
in
our
parks
and-
and
this
is
gonna
go
a
long
way.
C
C
Carter
caves
is
one
of
them
in
your
area,
and
you
can
imagine
you
know
the
impact
of
that
park
alone,
but
structural
needs
in
these
parks
and
and
we
reinvest
now
we're
gonna
get
we're
gonna.
We're
gonna
see
the
benefits
a
long
time
coming.
So
you
know
that's
just
my
feeling.
I've
been
in
your
shoes,
I've
served,
I've
served
locally,
I've
been
in
the
mayor's
shoes,
I've
been
in
the
the
state
representatives,
shoes
and-
and
I
know
in
my
heart
I
know
this.
D
If
I
could
follow
up
just
just
real
quickly,
thank
you,
mr
chair
on,
and
I
think
you
said
on
the
presentation.
There
was
13
golf
courses.
I
think
that
are
still
operated
by
the
parks
services.
Are
those
courses
is
the
play
on
those
courses
how
much
player
are
they
getting?
I
guess
as
well.
C
E
E
D
C
Well,
I'll
give
you
an
example,
and
you
know
golf
hit
its
high
in
2003.
C
F
C
The
golf
business
my
name's
been
on
the
line
in
the
golf
business,
and
I
I
see
it,
I
I
feel
it
it's
it's
it's
an
impact.
That's
here
to
stay
and
take
my
old
kentucky
home
golf
course.
Five
years
ago
was
doing
15
16
000
rounds.
C
This
last
year
did
25
000
rounds,
so
the
numbers
are
up
in
golf
and
you
know
we're
gonna
take
some
of
this
150
million
and
and
put
into
our
golf
courses.
You
know
where,
where
it's
needed
you
you
can
take
a
golf
course
kentucky.
Damn
village.
C
Great
golf
course
does
well
well
maintained,
does
really
well
for
the
economic
impact
in
that
area
and
they
their
irrigation
system
down
there
they're
still
operating
on
a
1960s
irrigation
system,
where
somebody
has
to
go
out.
Stick
a
sprinkler
in
a
quick,
coupler
turn
it.
So
you
can
water
the
fairways,
so
that's
that's
an
upgrade
that
has
to
be
done
and
will
drastically
impact
the
bottom
line
of
that
golf
course
operation
of
that
golf
course
from
a
manpower
standpoint.
C
So
there's
a
lot
of
things.
We
can
do
to
make
our
golf
courses
more
efficiently,
but
we
have
to
have
a
a
commitment
and
a
reinvestment
to
to
do
that
and
and
and
it's
going
to
pay
off,
we've
seen
it
pay
off.
We've
we've
been
doing
a
bunker
renovation,
statewide
and
and
redoing
bunkers
beautifying
the
golf
courses
I
just
feel
like.
If
we're
patient,
you
have
to
understand
the
the
economic
impact
for
the
communities
that
these
golf
courses
are
in
the
draw.
C
You
know
that's
kind
of
what
we
have
to
look
at
in
a
lot
of
ways
with
them,
but
but
we
also
have
to
get
an
roi
return
on
our
investment.
We
also
have
to
look
at
running
these
golf
courses
as
efficiently
as
possible,
and
that's
what
we're
doing
so.
I
I
appreciate
that
question.
I
appreciate
both
those
questions,
but
but
it's
it's
it's
bigger
than
the
question
itself,
because
it's
it's
as
big
as
the
region
that
these
parks
are
in
and
and
it's
as
it's
it's
as
big
as
these
communities
are
in
and
well.
D
C
It's
a
good
figure
and,
and
it's
it's
happening,
statewide
from
a
percentage
standpoint
across
the
board.
It's
happening
at
all
our
golf
courses
and
listen:
we've
got.
We've
got
golf
courses
in
our
park
system
that
are
top
10
golf
courses
in
the
state,
and
that
includes
private
golf
courses.
C
Extremely
nice.
I
mean
unbelievable
places
to
go
play
golf
for
for
our
families,
for
the
people
here
in
the
state
for
for
tourism
attraction
from
outside
the
state.
So.
A
Pardon
my
cynicism,
but
I
believe
you
just
mentioned
you
know
we
have
golf
courses
that
are
top
10
in
the
state
ranked
by
whom.
C
A
And
you
also
spoke
about
the
economic
impact
from
the
golf
courses.
Have
you
measured
that?
How
do
you
measure
it
you?
You
talked
about
economic
impact
for
a
park,
but
have
you
broken
it
down.
A
C
A
A
You
mentioned
in
your
presentation
that
previously
we
ranked
number
three
in
the
nation
for
revenue
production.
Where
do
we
rank
now.
B
C
B
B
E
I
know
there
were
some
conversations
before
I
think
last
year
or
whatever
about
golf
being
self-sustainable
from
a
revenue
standpoint.
You
discussed
that
and
at
that
time
you
talked
about
the
resurgence
of
golf
to
some
degree
from
from
covered
area.
I've
seen
that
as
well
as
you
know,
I'm
working
the
golf
industry
as
well
for
many
years
and
very
aware
of
what
that
industry
has
done,
and
my
quick
question
just
to
kind
of
change
the
perspective,
not
change
the
perspective
but
add
a
perspective
to
it
a
little
bit
tennis
courts.
E
C
E
So
they're
very
necessary
golf
is
something
that
you
know
we're
having
these
discussions
at
the
metropolitan
urban
city
levels
in
metro
parks
areas.
You
know
they're
expensive,
to
maintain
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
effort,
put
into
junior
programs
and
revitalizing
the
game
again
for
youngsters,
because
we've
made
some
decisions
in
industry
over
the
few
decades.
E
As
you
know,
where
we've
driven
cost
up,
you
know-
I
I
remember
guys
like
jack,
nicklaus
and
and
and
gary
player
people
like
this
in
the
1990s
talking
about
doing
something
to
the
golf
ball,
because
you
end
up
pricing
yourself
out
of
the
market,
because
you
need
so
much
real
estate
to
put
a
golf
course
down
and
you're
going
to
end
up
alienating
lower
income
people
to
even
afford
to
be
able
to
play
the
game
and
we're
seeing
some
of
that
now
and
before
we
just
start
getting
rid
of
the
sport,
which
is
an
unbelievable
sport
for
youngsters
and
and
for
all
ages,
by
the
way,
especially
people
with
disabilities,
which
I'm
heavily
involved
with,
which
is
great
rehab.
E
But
you
know
we
need
to
really
take
a
step
back
and
look
at
the
advantages
and
and
what
it
does
bring
in
from
a
park
system.
It's
a
it's
an
extra
carrot
to
draw
people
in
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
right
from
a
tourism
standpoint,
especially
trying
to
go
to
a
tax
system.
That's
more
consumptive
based
man!
E
C
Have
and
thank
you,
representative,
and
I
I
can
assure
you,
as
I
stated
mr
chair
and
and
members
I've
been
on
both
sides
of
this
in
in
the
golf
business.
I
was
an
owner
of
a
golf
course
and,
and
my
name
was
on
the
line,
and
each
and
every
week,
each
and
every
year
and
making
it
work.
C
I
know
how
tough
it
is
to
make
them
work,
and
you
know
on
this
side,
where
you
know
you
put
a
golf
course
in
up
in
yatesville
that
that
arthur
hills
designed
it's
an
unbelievable,
unbelievable
golf
course
that
you
know
that
community
saw
that
the
state
saw
that
as
a
another
tool
in
the
toolbox,
not
only
for
that
community,
but
for
that
region
as
a
draw.
Here's.
What
we
have
here
is
what
we
have.
If
you
bring
your
business
to
kentucky.
C
This
is
kentucky,
and
so
you
know
I
don't.
I
don't
mean
that
in
a
way
that
that
it's
okay
but
but
I
want
you
to
know
that
kentucky
state
parks
and
and
what
we
do,
each
and
every
day
we
set
out
to
run
an
efficient
operation
that
we
get
a
return
on.
Our
investment
on-
and
you
know
that
that's
how
we
do
it,
but
but
some
of
these
golf
courses
are
in
areas
where
it's
just
tough
it
it's
tough.
C
You
know
you
don't
have
the
the
traffic,
you
don't
have
the
metro
area
to
draw
from,
but
but
the
way
it
was
looked
at
when
they
were
built
from
an
economic
development
standpoint
is
it's
another
tool
in
the
toolbox
for
that
community
that
didn't
have
anything
over
in
eastern
kentucky
or
over
in
western
kentucky,
and
and
you
get
a
real
feel
for
that.
When
you
go
talk
to
the
the
local
elected
officials
and
the
local
people
in
those
communities
that
take
so
much
pride
in.
F
C
So
it's
it's!
It's
it's
just
pretty
cool
to
to
be
a
part
of
that
and
have
the
opportunity
to
generate
as
as
much
as
we
can
with
these
too.
So
thank
you.
A
All
right,
I
want
to
go
on
to
the
financial
part
of
it,
because
that's
what
the
main
thrust
of
the
meeting
today
will
be
miss
linton.
F
Again,
I'm
jennifer
linton,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
office
of
facility
development
and
efficiency
within
the
finance
cabinet,
and
I
was
asked
to
come
talk
about
the
status
of
the
parks
projects
that
have
been
authorized
in
the
last
two
bienniums
in
the
2018-2020
biennial
budget
in
house
bill.
200
parks
received
20
million
dollars
in
bond
funded
maintenance
pool
and,
as
chairman
beckler
said,
in
2019
parks
received
50
million
dollars
in
house
bill
268,
with
with
five
very
specific
pools
of
what
that
money
could
be
used
for.
F
So
it
wasn't
like
a
normal
maintenance
pool,
but
it
was
very
specified
into
the
wastewater
treatment,
the
roof
repairs,
the
utility
and
communications
life
safety
and
hospitality
upgrades
with
specific
amounts
for
each
of
those
pools
and
then
in
the
2020
and
2021
authorizations
parks
received
an
additional
10
million
dollars
in
bond
funded
maintenance
pool
and
then
another
10
million
dollars
towards
the
wastewater
treatment
upgrades.
F
F
Soda
so
to
chairman
beckler's
question
about
the
2019
authorization
of
the
50
million
this
breaks
down
and
shows
out
of
the
20
million
100
000
that
was
authorized
for
wastewater
treatment.
F
There
is
currently
17
million
800
000
remaining
in
that
for
wastewater
treatment
in
just
a
minute,
we'll
we'll
talk
about
what's
what
it's
been
spent
on
and
what
the
plans
are
for
that
out
of
the
roof
funds
of
eleven
million
six
hundred
thousand
there's,
currently
one
million
two
hundred
and
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars
remaining
for
the
funds
that
were
authorized
for
utilities
and
communications
out
of
the
10
million
800
000,
there's
about
3.7
million
left
for
the
life
safety
upgrades
and
the
ada
improvements
out
of
the
4.1,
there's
358,
700,
left
and
out
of
the
hospitality
pool
that
the
commissioner
also
talked
about
some
of
the
plans
they
have
for
that.
F
Out
of
the
three
point:
four
million
there's
five
hundred
and
sixty
two
thousand
thirty
five
dollars
left
for
that
with
a
total
of
23
000
or
I'm
sorry,
23
million
706
000
left
out
of
the
50
million
for
the
wastewater,
because
I
know
that's
a
that's.
A
large
amount
of
the
money
that
was
authorized
between
the
2019
and
then
the
2020
and
2021
authorizations.
There
was
a
total
of
30.1
million
dollars
authorized
for
wastewater.
F
These
projects
take
time
to
implement,
there's
from
in
2019
when
parks
received
the
first
20
million
dollars,
finance
cabinet
issued
rfps
to
hire
design
consultants,
and
we
took
the
state
and
split
it
between
the
east
and
the
west
and
hired
a
consultant
for
each
half
of
the
state
and
those
consultants
looked
at
they.
They
analyzed
the
facilities
at
all
the
parks,
they
prioritized
the
needs
and
then
started
the
design
process
of
the
either
the
replacement
or.
F
We
are
working
through
an
moa
process
with
the
local
utility
right
now,
with
with
current
estimates,
we've
identified
identified
about
38.6
million
dollars
worth
of
needs.
So
right
now
our
needs
far
exceed
our
available
funds
for
the
current
funding
for
wastewater
treatment,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
I
know
parks
is
looking
at
with
their
potential
150
million
in
fiscal
year.
24
is
to
be
able
to
supplement
the
rest
of
the
the
wastewater
needs
with
that
funding.
F
For
the
roof
replacement
pool-
and
I
don't
want
to
set
and
read
to
you
all-
but
these
are-
these-
are
the
projects
that
have
been
the
roof
replacements
that
have
been
either
completed
or
in
process.
Right
now-
and
I
know
you
all-
have
have
this
in
front
of
you
so
with
with
the
remaining
funds-
that's
left
part
of
this
process
with
the
roofs
was
similar
to
the
the
wastewater
treatment
we
had.
F
We
issued
rfps,
we
hired
consultants,
we
spent,
we
split
the
state
between
the
east
and
the
west,
and
again
our
consultants
had
to
analyze,
evaluate
and
prioritize
the
roofs
within
parks
to
to
address
the
most
urgent
needs.
First,
we
would
go
through
the
design,
the
bid
process
and
then
evaluate
with
the
available
funding
that
was
left.
What
the
next
projects
were,
the
remaining
projects
that
we
have
right
now
that
are
under
design
and
ready
to
go
out
for
bid
again
we're
around
almost
three
million
dollars.
F
This
currently
again
exceeds
the
available
funds
left
out
of
the
50
million
dollar
roof
pool
of
the
11.6
million.
So
again,
parks
will
be
looking
at
having
to
supplement
some
of
these
roof
needs
with
the
again
the
potential
150
million
that
they'll
be
receiving
in
fiscal
year.
24.
F
Some
of
the
smaller
pools
of
money,
but
obviously
still
important
the
utilities
and
communications
and
cabling
infrastructure
replacement,
pool
some
of
the
things
parks
has
done
with
that.
Money
is
they're
working
on
the
wi-fi
at
their
parks
and
at
the
at
the
campgrounds
too.
To
get
because
I
think
campgrounds
have
been
a
big
push
for
you
all
for
for
wi-fi
to
make
to
make
have
wi-fi
there's
been
electrical
upgrades
at
various
parks.
F
And
so
that's
what's
been
done,
so
we
can
we're
going
to
continue
with
the
remaining
funds
to
work
on
wi-fi
parks
again
with
focus
on
the
campgrounds
to
to
to
something.
The
commissioner
spoke
of
earlier
is
looking
at
clearing
right-of-ways
and
the
replacement
of
poles
and
transformers
were
needed,
looking
at
replacing
and
repairing
water
and
gas
mains
and
upgrade
electrical
services
to
lodges,
to
prevent
breaker
trips
kind
of
you
know
with
the
hospitality
upgrades
that
parks
needs
to
do.
I
know
one
of
the
things
I
keep
hearing
about
is
they.
F
You
know
some
of
the
lodges,
don't
have
refrigerators
in
the
room
and
jump
in
commissioner.
If
I
mistake
this,
but
one
of
the
issues
they
have
at
a
lot
of
the
lodges,
is
they
don't
have
the
electrical
infrastructure
to
support
all
of
those
refrigerators
in
all
those
rooms?
So
it's
one
of
those.
It's
not
it's,
not
a
pretty
fix,
but
it's
a
fix.
That's
got
to
be
done
to
be
able
to
to
provide
that
service
to
the
guests.
F
Some
of
the
life
safety
projects
that
have
been
been
completed
and
ada
improvements
is
several
of
the
lodge.
We've
been
working
on
life,
safety
upgrades
with
sprinkler
systems
and
structural
repairs.
Other
things
we're
going
to
continue.
Looking
at
sprinkler
systems,
address
ada
pedways
and
some
more
ada
modifications
during
cottage
remodels.
F
Out
of
the
hospitality
pool
parks
has
been
working
at
barron
river
greenbow
rough
river,
natural
bridge,
jenny,
wiley
cumberland
falls
to
improve
the
the
furnishings
at
those
parks
and
then
out
of
the
this
biennium
that
just
ended
out
of
the
20
million
dollars
that
was
received
for
2022.
F
A
So,
with
regard
to
the
50
million
bond
funds,
am
I
in
did
I
understand
correctly
that
there's
23
million
700
000
roughly
that
still
hasn't
been
authorized
or
it.
F
B
B
F
A
F
And
I
mean
with
the
wastewater
I
mean
there,
there's
such
more
complicated
systems
than
a
roof,
or
even
an
hvac
system,
in
that
there's
a
lot
of
design
that
has
to
go
on
there's
property
issues.
If
you're
going
to
move
from
from
the
the
parks
package
system
to
the
to
the
local
utility
to
tile
onto
the
local
utility,
so
there's
easements
that
have
to
be
worked
through
there,
there's
all
it's
it's
a
lot
more
complicated
than
your
your
normal
roof
or
hvac
project
with
all
the
pieces
that
are
involved
in
these
wastewater
projects.
F
F
When
parks
received
the
initial
20
million
in
2019
for
wastewater.
None
of
this
I
mean
we
knew
we
had
systems,
we
knew
parks
had
violations,
we
knew
systems
needed
to
be
replaced,
but
we
didn't
have
the
the
technical
information
on
the
systems
or
the
knowledge
of
what
could
be
done
to
replace
those
systems
at
that
time.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
discovery
that
went
in
in
2019
2020
until
now
and,
like
I
said,
we're
we're
right
now.
F
F
Normally,
on
a
project
of
that
size,
they're
a
couple
million
dollar
projects,
we
would
probably
have
them
advertised
for
about
three
to
four
weeks
to
allow
contractors.
Time
to
you,
know,
review
the
bids
and
put
a
bit
review
the
plans
and
specs
and
put
a
bid
together.
So
within
about
a
month
from
the
time
it's
advertised,
we
would
have
a.
We
would
have
a
you
know,
an
apparent
bidder,
a
little
bitter
and
then
within
a
week
or
two.
We
would
have
a
contract
in
place
for
that.
A
F
No,
no,
no,
no,
that
that's
just
for
the
current
two
projects
that
are
going
out
right
now.
Several
of
these
projects
that
we're
working
on
are
actually
moas
with
the
local
utility
companies
and
those
moas
should
be
signed
and
in
place
within
the
next
month
as
well.
F
F
We
have
to
bid
projects
to
see
how
much
money
is
left
to
see
what
other
projects
you
know
what
projects
go
next,
but
I
would
say-
and-
and
please
don't
I
mean
I
know
I'm
under
oath-
but
this
is
not.
This
is
not
an
affirmative,
an
answer
on
when
the
money
would
be
committed
within
the
next
six
to
12
months.
We
should
have
all
that
money
committed.
F
A
Yeah
I
would
like
to
to
find
out
when
the
money
that's
been
allocated
or
authorized,
rather
when
it
will
actually,
when
we'll
see
the
fruits
of
the
labor.
A
F
A
To
committed
to
a
project,
when
will
you
when
do
you
anticipate
that
all
the
money
will
be
committed
and
by
committed
I
mean
signed
contracts.
F
I
just
I
don't
know
that
I
could
put
a
date
to
it.
I
mean
it's
a
very
active
process
right
now
we
are
working
a
lot
of
pr
we
have
like.
We
have,
I
think,
about
66
active
parks
projects
right
now
that
my
office
is
working,
so
I
mean
it's
to
put
a
date
to
when
all
of
those
projects
would
be
complete
or
or
under
contract.
It's
I
could.
I
could
attempt
a
timeline,
but
it's
nothing.
I
have
right
now
for
you.
A
Yeah
I
the
reason
I'm
asking
these
questions
is,
you
know
we
did
50
million
in
2019,
and
then
we
did
150
million
last
year
and
that's
a
fair
amount
of
change
for
the
commonwealth,
and
once
that
money
has
been
bonded-
and
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
say
given
to
you,
but
once
once
the
money
has
been
put
aside
for
you,
for
you
know
we
would
like
to
see
when
things
are
going
to
be
complete
and
it
it
seems,
like
things
have
been
delayed.
A
I'll
just
put
it
that
way,
and
that's
not
that's
not
good
either
for
the
the
legislature
are
are
more
importantly,
for
the
citizens
of
the
commonwealth.
F
A
Okay,
let's
go
ahead.
Unless
anybody
has
any
questions
on
the
the
50
million.
A
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
the
the
current
budget
get
to
the
150
million.
If
we
could
please.
F
A
Yeah,
I
have
quite
a
few
okay,
all
right
150,
it
was
in
bond
funds
and
they
were
appropriated
to
establish
the
state
parks,
improvement
pool
and
it
had
several
conditions
and
required
a
report
in
december
of
this
year.
You
you
alluded
to
that
earlier.
My
questions
are:
what
plans
does
the
department
have
to
conduct
a
required
review.
A
A
C
Well,
we've
we've
started
communication
with
senate
leadership,
who
came
up
with
the
you
know,
structure
of
how
the
you.
B
C
150
millions
allocated
that
we
that
parks
has
to
submit
by
december
1
the
list
so
with
that
said,
I
mean
we
met
with
senator
mcdaniel
senator
senator
stivers
president
stivers
right
at
about
a
month
ago
to
discuss
and
and
start
that
process.
So
with
that
said,
we've
been
in
a
budget
process
finalizing
our
budget.
C
Our
team
will
begin
immediately
and
has
a
list
of
projects
needed
projects.
As
I
said,
there's
there's
250
million
and
have
to's
that
we've
had
before
the
legislature
over
the
last.
I
don't
know
how
many
years,
but
but
it's
been
the
what
what's
been
called
the
six
year
plan,
and
you
know
we
will
take
from
that
list
for
an
example.
C
I'll
give
you
an
example,
I
mentioned
that
we
own
the
electric
utility
and
poles
in
five
of
our
parks
and
that
fix
going
in
and
I'm
taking
care
of
the
right-of-ways
replacing
the
poles
that
need
to
be
replaced,
and
I've
been
told
that
we
have
probably
60
percent
of
our
our
poles
have
to
be
replaced-
is
right
around
a
20
million
dollar
figure
to
to
to
fix
that.
C
That's
just
a
basic
infrastructure
need
that
parks
has
and,
and
that
need
is
substantiated
with
last
year
alone,
at
kentucky
dam
village,
who
is
one
of
those
parks
that
park
was
down
34
days
with
outages
because
of
the
deficiencies
within
the
lines
in
the
system
that
has
been
let
go
over
the
last
20
20
plus
years.
C
So
I
mean
that's
an
immediate
need
that
we
know
and
there's
there's
several
of
those
on
this
list
between
basic
infrastructure
needs
and
structural
infrastructure
needs
that
are
going
to
be
put
into
that
150
million
that
there's
no
guesswork
involved.
There's
no
there's
no
planning,
there's
there's
it's!
It
is
what
it
is
and
and
and
we're
bringing
it
into
that
150
million,
but
the
process
will
be
we'll
get
back
with
you
know:
senate
leadership,
house
leadership.
C
We
can
get
back
with
any
member
at
any
time
that
that
wants
to
sit
down
and
and
go
through
these
projects,
our
process,
but
our
our
team
will
be
meeting
immediately
to
to
put
the
plan
our
presentation
together
to
bring
that
to
you
all
and
along
with
that,
the
possibility
and
opportunity
of
of
p3s.
If
there
are
any
out
there
within
these
projects
that
we
have
listed,
you
know
p3
projects
and
local
government
partnership
opportunities,
so.
A
Am
I
am
I
to
understand
that
the
you're
planning
to
implement
the
appropriation
by
what's
on
the
screen
now.
C
We
absolutely
plan
on
prioritizing
them
communicating
them
with
senate
and
house
and
making
a
proper
presentation
on
december
1.
As
stated
in
the
bill.
A
C
A
I
believe
the
appropriation
also
in
addition
to
the
report.
Well,
one
of
the
conditions
was
conduct
a
review.
A
A
C
A
C
Exactly
yeah
and
that's
why
we
started
the
process
with
with
where,
where
it
came
from,
was
the
the
senate,
because
I
know
the
house
version
of
of
what
was
proposed
for
parks
and
the
budget
was
completely
different.
It
went
to
the
senate,
it
was
changed
and
then
the
you
know,
house,
concurred
and
and
went
along
with
what
the
senate
came
up
with.
C
A
How
far
along
are
you
so
far
in
preparing
the
report.
C
We're
pretty
far
along
we've
met
in
the
last
three
weeks
with
our
team
and
we're
we're
pretty
far
along.
We,
it
wouldn't
take
us
long
to
put
this
together.
I
can
tell
you
because
of
of
the
the
needs
out
there,
not
the
needs
the
have
to's
of
what
we
have
to
do.
It's
not
going
to
take
long
to
to
fill
this
list
and
this
150
million
with
our
team.
C
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Just
just
really
quick
russ
do
we
have
any
idea?
I
noticed
a
lot
of
these
and
improvements
that
are
going
on
are
improvements
and
not
necessarily
repair
and
maintenance.
As
much
as
major
infrastructure
improvements
do
we
have
any
idea
what
kind
of
value
increases
we're
going
to
look
at
in
our
assets
of
our
state
parks?
E
After
all,
these
upgrades
of
improvements
are
are
completed.
Roughly
I
mean
I
probably
not
prepared
for
that
question,
but.
C
I
was
just
curious:
no,
no,
it's
a
great
question,
but
you
know,
as
you
saw
miss
linton's
presentation
in
its
own,
to
upgrade.
You
know,
sewer
facilities
that
that
are
inside
our
parks
and
water
facilities.
You
know,
I
want
to
say
it's,
it's
a
process,
not
a
problem.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
a
process
to
get
a
wastewater
project
completed
or
a
water
project
completed
after
you
go
through
the
the
preliminary
design
you
go
through
the
design
process.
You
go
through
the
the
leading
process.
C
So
I
you
know
timelines
on
how
quick
the
150
million
dollars
gets
spent
timelines
on
on
and
and
as
we
move
along
over
the
next
five
years
to
take
care
of
these
projects
that
we
needed
to
do
25
years
ago,
we're
five
years
down
the
road
and
we've
got
five
more
years
of
problems
coming.
C
And
the
last
time
I
I
came
and
met
before
you
all.
I
said
you
know
we're
it's
hard
to
fight
continue
to
fight
backfires
when
you
need
to
be
fighting
front
fires-
and
you
know
you,
you
can't
run
a
what
you
would
call
a
a
high-end
efficient
operation
when
you're
fighting
backfires
all
the
time.
Let's
just
say
that.
E
All
right,
thanks
for
that
and
and
I
said
on
economic
development
committee
as
well
and
we've
had
tourism
come
in
and
give
some
really
good
presentations
over
the
last
year
or
two
and
the
need,
and
they
they
shared
with
us,
really
what's
been
happening
about
spending.
That's
going
on
with
consumers
across
our
nation,
how
we're
really
trying
to
compete
for
those
dollars,
and
you
know
it's
driving
inflation.
E
I
mean
you
just
look
at
your
last
category
up
there
on
challenges
and
you
got
a
lot
of
work
ahead
of
you
to
get
this
done
and-
and
I
appreciate
y'all's
hard
work
trying
to
put
this
together
and
those
it's
a
major
deal.
But
but
this
is,
this
is
a
good
deal.
This
is
a
great
time
to
reinvest
and
it's
way
too
late,
but
we
have
to
get
it
done
when
you
look
at
all
this
work,
you
know
what
what
pops
out
to
me
are
a
couple
of
things.
E
One
jobs
and
state
revenue
is
not
we're,
not
a
consumptive
base
tax
system
totally
yet
so
there's
a
lot
of
state
revenue
in
in
that
employment
and
also
appreciation
of
of
our
assets
is
is
big.
So
this
is
the
time
to
do
it,
and
you
know
we
all
want
to
get
it
done
as
quickly
as
possible
as
efficiently
as
possible.
But
you
know
there
are
some
major
challenges
up
there
with
with
supply
chains,
especially
in
the
type
of
work
you're
going
to
be
doing
in
the
labor
market
as
well.
E
So
best
of
luck-
and
I.
A
A
Idea
of
tourism
is
extremely
important
to
kentucky
and
you're
in
the
job,
so
you
know
it,
but,
as
you
alluded
to,
150
million
dollars
is
quite
a
chunk
of
change.
For
us,
it
was
a
a
tough
decision,
we're
hoping
it
was
the
right
decision,
but
with
that
is
going
to
come
a
lot
of
hard
looking.
A
So
I
hope
you
understand
that
we
may
have
you
back
be
prepared
for
a
lot
of
questions,
we're
very
interested
in
how
the
money
is
going
to
be
spent
when
it's
going
to
be
spent
and
why
you're
spending
it
on
particular
things.
So
with
that,
I
thank
you
for
your
presentation
for
members.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
on
august.
The
17th
will
be
shared
chaired
by
senator.