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A
But
let's
pray,
thank
you!
Lord!
For
the
day,
the
blessings
you
give
us
to
be
able
to
serve
you
and
serve
our
people
and
I
pray
should
help
us
on
this
committee
to
make
good
decisions,
wise
decisions
with
the
monies
and
that's
spent
and
goes
through
this
committee.
I
pray.
Lord
you'd,
give
us
a
good
day
today
and
help
Stoner
you
with
our
lives.
We
ask
in
your
name,
amen.
B
C
B
Okay,
well
today
we
have
the
pleasure
of
having
Senator
Whitney
Westerfield,
the
representative
of
the
Third
District
Christian
County,
a
wonderful
part
of
Western
Kentucky,
and
it's
he's
been
actively
involved
in
consumer
data
privacy
and
he's
helped
crafted
the
bill
that
was
passed
in
the
legislature
last
session
and
he's
here
today
to
kind
of
bring
us
up
to
date
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
his
bill.
And
so
Senator
will
will
turn
it
over
to
you.
E
Chairman,
thank
you.
Those
of
you
who've
been
around
the
legislature
for
a
while
know
that
I'm
normally
talking
about
criminal
justice
policy,
and
so
this
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
this
is
still
just
as
important
an
issue
and
it's
important
because
it's
something
we're
not
doing
enough
about
Kentucky
doesn't
have
any
protections
at
all
in
the
law
for
Consumer
data.
For
the
data
that
we
have
now
we
do
have
some
notification
statutes.
E
We
have
a
bill
passed
in
the
last
six
seven
years
that
addressed
the
public
and
the
private
sector.
So
when
there's
been
a
data
breach,
so
if
you've
got
data
held
by
a
company
in
the
private
sector,
if
you've
got
data
held
by
state
government,
there
are
some
notification
requirements.
We've
put
in
statute
to
make
sure
that,
within
a
certain
time
frame
under
certain
circumstances,
there's
a
law
enforcement
component
to
that
an
investigative
component
to
that.
But
there
are
some
data,
breach,
statutes
and
that's
it.
That's
all
Kentucky's
got
elsewhere.
E
You've
got
a
slew
of
things
in
the
last
three
years.
In
particular,
there's
been
a
great
deal
of
action.
The
EU
acted
first,
with
their
gdpr
you've
seen
notices
on
just
about
every
website
any
website.
That's
got
a
footprint
internationally.
You've
seen
notices
about
the
gdpr,
the
general
data
protection
regulation,
which
was
adopted
by
the
EU,
and
there
are
parts
of
the
gdpr
that
are
good.
E
and
in
the
last
two
or
three
years,
you've
seen
action
from
all
these
other
states.
Colorado
Connecticut,
Utah,
Virginia
Tennessee,
and
just
this
year,
Tennessee
Iowa
Montana,
Oregon,
Indiana
Texas
missing
a
comma
there,
but
you've
got
more
than
20
percent
of
the
states
that
have
taken
some
action
on
consumer
data,
privacy
and
there's
a
reason
for
that.
Congress
is
enacting
it'd
be
great
if
we
had
one
standard
across
the
whole
country
to
protect
and
give
rights
to
Consumers
and
give
some
sort
of
opportunity
for
us
to
control
the
data.
That's
Irish.
E
They're
not
acting
so
the
states,
the
Laboratories
of
democracy
that
we
are
have
taken
it
upon
ourselves
to
do
it
and
we
should
Kentucky
should
not
let
its
people
sit
and
stand
and
and
exist
in
the
digital
space
for
another
moment
without
having
some
kind
of
protection
in
place.
The
bill
that
was
passed
by
the
Senate,
not
in
the
house
this
year
was
Senate
bill.
15.,
it's
the
second
or
third
year
that
I
have
filed
that
bill.
I
will
file
it
again.
E
We
need
to
do
it
because
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
information.
So
what
information
are
we
talking
about?
You've
got
consumer
appliances
if
you've
got
a
smart
thermostat
in
your
home.
That
device
is
what
we're
talking
about.
I
had
a
nest
thermostat
for
a
number
of
years,
and
now
I've
got
a
A
different
brand.
E
It's
not
nest
because
our
system
doesn't
talk
with
the
nest
anymore,
but
it's
a
smart
thermostat
I
can
connect
to
it
here
on
my
phone
and
I
can
set
the
temperature
or
check
the
humidity
levels
or
turn
the
fan
on,
or
the
heat
on.
I
can
change.
I
can
do
that
from
here
from
my
home
three
hours
away,
we've
got
doorbell
cameras
and
we'll
talk
about
that
more
here.
In
just
a
bit.
Tvs
our
radios,
digital
assistants,
Google
Assistant,
Alexa.
You've
got
all
these
devices.
The
internet
of
things.
E
You've
heard
that
phrase
before
these
are
all
our
Internet
connected
devices
and
gadgets
that
we
use
our
refrigerators
are
connected
to
the
internet.
I
can
turn
my
oven
on
from
my
phone
right
now
and
preheat
it.
For
you
know
when
I
get
home
whenever
that
is
tomorrow,
we
have
government
uses
of
data
I'm
going
to
talk
about
it.
Here
in
just
a
few
minutes,
but
Lexington
just
announced
some
traffic
cameras,
we've
seen
story
about
stories
about
that
around
the
country.
E
We
have
legislation,
that's
been
before
us
about
the
use
of
body
cams
and
whether
or
not
we
use
that
how
we
use
that,
how
we
disclose
that,
how
it's
stored,
that
information
is
there
and
it's
not
just
for
the
criminals.
In
the
instance
of
a
body
can
there
are
bystanders
in
people
on
those
cameras
that
are
captured
and
they've
got
privacy
interest
there
too,
you've
got
your
browser
data,
whether
it's
on
your
smartphone,
your
laptop
or
your
iPad,
or
your
tablet.
E
Your
computer,
here,
your
computer
at
home
mobile
device
data,
the
information
about
what
your
device
is,
sharing,
what
your
apps
are
sending
back
and
forth,
not
always
what
you
think,
they're
sending
back
and
forth
or
to
whom
or
where
your
location
data
I,
could
give
you
an
entire
seminar
just
on
that
and
it
would
scare
the
bejesus
out
of
you
scares
the
bejesus
out
of
me.
So
what?
Why
is
this
important?
E
E
There's,
120,
zettabytes,
raise
your
hand
if
you've
heard
that
term
before
one
of
us
I
hadn't
heard
it
before
I
started
re-newing
this
presentation,
which
I've
now
given
a
couple
of
different
times
before
the
legislature
they're
about
as
of
2023,
roughly
120
zettabytes
of
data
in
the
world
on
the
web
connected
somewhere
and
that's
nearly
doubled,
an
amount.
It
was
a
little
over
60
zettabytes.
As
of
2020.
E
E
I'm
going
to
read
this:
this
is
from
a
Cisco
article,
blog
post.
You
can
find
it
today
and
I've
got
the
links
to
everything.
I
reference
in
my
presentation
here
and
I'll
share
this
with
you
by
email,
and
you
can
just
click
the
links
and
go
check
this
out
for
yourself.
This
is
from
a
Cisco
article
from
2016..
E
E
Thinking
in
terms
of
bites
alone
doesn't
really
do
this
Milestone
Justice
or
just
for
fun.
I'm.
Reading
this
each
analyst
developed
a
non-networking
non-computer
jargon
way
of
describing
this
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
these
four
examples,
just
to
get
a
sense
of
how
much
we're
talking
about
here.
If
each
terabyte-
that's
something
you
should
be
familiar
with,
your
hard
drive
on
your
computer
might
have
a
terabyte.
Hard
drive
might
even
be
more
than
a
terabyte.
This
is
a
one
terabyte
solid
state
drive
in
this
iPad
I've
got
half
a
terabyte
on
this
phone.
E
So
if
each
fraction
of
the
zettabyte
we're
just
a
centimeter,
we
could
reach
a
height
of
12
times
the
height
of
Burj
Khalifa,
the
tallest
building
in
the
world.
Again,
I'm.
Sharing
these
it's
hard
to
conceptualize
the
scope
and
the
size
and
the
breadth
and
depth
of
the
data
that
we
have
and
that
exists
on
the
on
the
web
in
the
world.
If
every
gigabyte
in
a
zettabyte
we're
a
meter,
it
could
span
the
distance
of
the
Amazon
River
more
than
150.
E
30
billion.
Roughly
and
again,
that's
dated
information,
iot
devices,
so
the
smart
thermometers
or
thermostats
are
added
the
smart
weather
stations,
whatever
the
ovens
and
dryers
and
clothes,
washers
and
dishwashers.
You've
got
who
keeps
and
controls
the
information
that
those
devices
keep
and
gather
and
share
and
report
back.
E
E
E
E
The
sky's,
the
limit
you've
heard
terms
called
Big
Data,
that's
the
the
modeling
and
the
projections
and
the
profiling
that
they're
doing
with
the
inordinate
unfathomable
amounts
of
consumer
data.
That's
out
there
machine
learning,
that's
on
the
device.
You've
got
in
your
pocket
right
now,
where
the
device
is
using
the
information
it's
got
and
access
to
whether
it's
on
device
or
in
the
cloud
to
determine
the
next
thing
that
comes
next
in
whatever
function.
E
It's
it's
trying
to
do
artificial
intelligence,
implementations
which
have
exploded
this
year,
they're
doing
the
same
sort
of
thing:
the
computer
algorithm,
using
what
information
it's
been
trained
on
to
to
give
you
the
best
guess
for
the
next
answer
that
you're
looking
for
and
there
are
lots
of
fun
uses
for
that
I've
come
up
with
a
scavenger
hunt
for
my
kids
with
chat
GPT
about
the
beach
a
trip
to
the
beach.
It
was
pretty
neat.
E
We
made
some
adjustments,
Amanda
and
I
did,
but
we
used
that,
but
you've
also
got
boneheads
using
it
to
do
legal
research
and
thankfully,
getting
in
trouble
for
that,
and
you've
got
a
lot
of
other
nefarious
uses
for
it.
All
of
that,
driven
by
data
that
we
shared
but
had
no
idea
was
going
to
be
used
in
that
way.
E
E
How
many
tweets
are
shared,
how
many
billions
of
messages
are
sent
and
that's
just
with
WhatsApp
I
can't
highlight
there
in
the
middle
four
terabytes
of
data
produced
or
connected
by
a
connected
car.
We
didn't
even
talked
about
cars,
yet
if
your
car
is
made
in
the
last
10
years,
chances
are
it's
sharing
a
ton
of
data
that
you
don't
know.
It's
sharing
certainly
recording
data,
if
not
also
sharing
it,
and
these
are
examples
I
like
to
and
I've
shared
these
before,
and
this
is
from
2018
or
19.
E
E
What
information,
they're,
Gathering
I,
didn't
have
to
click
on
anything
all
I
had
to
do
was
load
the
page
and
code
from
parse.ly
parsley,
nativo
matter,
analytics,
low
tame,
live
intent,
Crux,
digital
quantcast,
Quant
count
scorecard
research,
Beacon
crateo,
no
idea
who
these
people
are,
what
information
they're
Gathering
but
I,
know
from
doing
the
homework
and
being
the
nerd.
That
I
am
I
know
that
a
lot
of
these
websites
and
these
Services
they're
not
just
tracking
what
you've
loaded
on
this
page,
but
they
know
the
site
you
just
came
from.
E
They
know
the
site
you
go
to
next.
They
know
what
you're
hovering
your
mouse
over.
You
don't
have
to
click.
They
just
know
where,
on
the
page
you
are,
they
might
be
recording
keystrokes
that
you
type
into
a
search
bar,
but
you
never
actually
hit
search,
but
they
recorded
the
keystrokes
all
the
same.
No
one
agreed
to
that.
E
E
E
That's
really
interesting:
I've,
never
even
heard
of
Elmer's
and
I'm
all
for
Montana's,
Krispy
Kreme,
but
think
about
how
that
information
was
gathered
for
a
moment,
representative
fugit.
They
needed
to
know
where
your
phone
was
on
six
days
of
the
week
at
lunch
time
for
Chick-fil-A,
and
then
they
needed
to
know
where
representative
fugit's
phone
was
at
lunchtime
on
Sunday.
E
Popular
daycare
and
child
Communications
apps
are
dangerously
insecure.
According
to
newly
published
research,
exposing
children
and
parents
to
the
risk
of
data
breaches
with
lack
security,
settings
and
permissive
or
outright
misleading
policies,
that's
a
child
care,
a
daycare
monitoring
app
and
then
we
have
these
police
can
access
your
ring.
Camera
footage
there's
a
whole.
You
can
do
a
bunch
of
searching
around
the
web
about
Ring
cameras
and
how
ring
is
now
owned
by
Amazon
has
Partnerships
with
law
enforcement
agencies
to
utilize
and
access
that
ring
camera
footage.
E
That's
why
I
don't
own
a
ring
camera,
because
there
are
certain
things
they
have
access
to,
that
you
don't
have
a
choice
but
to
Grant
access
to.
If
you
buy
the
ring,
camera
and
I
thought
that'd
be
nice.
We
can
avoid
that
in
Kentucky.
If
you
just
avoid
getting
a
ring
camera
except
a
Lexington,
it's
coming
home
to
roost.
E
E
I'd
recommend
you
connect
to,
but
all
the
others,
including
the
televisions
themselves
when
you
use
the
in-app
Smart
TV
features
they're,
not
just
delivering
the
service
to
you
and
the
Netflix
feed
to
you,
they're,
sending
back
what
you're
watching
either
to
the
manufacturer
or
to
the
streaming
service
or
to
both,
and
they
can
have
Smart
pixels.
They
know,
based
on
this
12
or
15
or,
however
many
pixels
they
might
use.
With
this
certain
pattern,
it's
like
identifying
a
certain
image.
E
They
know
what
you're
watching
they
know
how
long
you
watch
it
and
again,
if
you're,
okay,
with
sharing
that
fine,
but
most
people
aren't
and
almost
no
one
knows
that
it's
being
shared
lawmakers,
take
aim
at
Insidious
digital
dark
patterns,
the
bill
I'm
about
to
talk
to
you
about
symbol.
15
is
the
only
building
the
country
that
includes
information
or
anything
related
to
dark
patterns,
Most
states,
every
other
state
that
I'm
aware
of
none
of
the
states.
I
named
earlier
that
I'm
aware
of
have
anything
about
dark
patterns.
E
E
There
was
a
story
several
years
ago
where
Walgreens
was
testing,
putting
cameras
on
their
coolers
you've
been
to
a
Walgreens.
There's
a
little
mini
grocery
and
they've
got
a
wall
of
coolers
with
their
drinks
and
other
cold
grocery
items,
and
they
were
putting
cameras
and
face
recognition
systems
on
the
on
those
devices.
So
when
you
walked
in
front
of
it,
it
would
light
up
and
show
you
what's
in
there
or
it
would
show
you
an
image
of
what's
on
the
shelf
behind
it
not
actually
open
up
it
because
it
was
just
a
screen.
E
E
For
me,
as
a
customer
I,
don't
want
you
knowing
everything
else
about
me
and
what
I'm
thinking
about
buying
and
what
I
choose
to
buy
or
not
and
y'all.
These
are
just
a
handful
of
headlines
once
you
start
paying
attention
to
this
they're
everywhere
and
Kentucky
doesn't
have
anything
to
protect
our
people
or
to
protect
our
businesses
in
this
space,
nothing.
E
The
bill
is
not
particularly
long
30
or
so
pages
and
I
believe
you've
been
sent.
A
copy
of
a
chairman
and
members
have
got
a
copy
of
it,
but
it's
Senate
bill
20.,
it's
in
Bill
15
from
this
year's
session,
pass
the
Senate,
32-2
and
I
want
to
give
a
couple
of
really
high
level
out
highlights
and
then
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
E
I
started
with
the
Virginia
bill.
Virginia
seems
to
be
the
bill
that
the
business
interests
in
the
country
seem
to
align
with
the
most
so
I
started
with
Virginia's
and
then
I
improved
upon
it.
I
think
there
are
some
serious
problems
with
Virginia's
Bill.
There
are
two
in
particular
issues
that
I
changed.
E
There
were
more
than
two
but
two
big
ones
that
I
made
changes
to
among
those
in
the
definitions.
I
talk
about
dark
patterns,
I'll
tell
you
quickly
right
now.
If
you
ever
gone
to
cancel
something
or
to
close
something,
the
button
that
you're
looking
for
is
really
low
contrast,
light
gray
on
a
white
background
or
something
or
it's
a
much
smaller
button,
and
the
button
you
don't
want
to
click
on
is
the
great
big
red
button.
E
E
The
law
should
talk
about
that,
because
it's
something
it's
a
place
where
our
consumers,
where
our
people,
our
constituents
and
US
ourselves,
are
being
taken
advantage
of
they're
preying
on
our
inattention
or
they're,
preying
on
our
ignorance,
about
how
they're
doing
what
they're
doing
my
bill
has
that
definition,
others,
don't
the
exceptions
in
the
bill
are
pretty
comprehensive,
I'm
not
trying
to
create
extra
work
for
companies
I'm
not
trying
to
double
up.
There
are
federal
restrictions
already
in
place
for
certain
providers.
Hipaa,
for
instance,
is
the
easiest
example.
E
I'm
not
trying
to
create
a
second
level
of
compliance,
I'm
trying
to
go
after
the
the
the
space
where
there's
no
protection
at
all
right
now,
and
so
there
have
been
as
I've
worked
on
the
bill
for
a
handful
of
years
now
there
have
been
different
groups
that
have
asked
for
exceptions
or
carve
outs.
Some
I've
agreed
to
and
they're
in
there
and
some
I
haven't,
and
it's
really
been
do
you
have
some
protection
already?
Is
there
already
some
law
that
governs
your?
How
you
handle
data
already?
E
E
E
There
are
some
security
questions
and
concerns
there.
If
we
know
that
everything
that
we're
dealing
with
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
pick
on
Amazon
and
Amazon's
got
a
government
Affairs
guy.
That
I've
worked
really
nicely
with
I'm,
not
trying
to
pick
on
Amazon
but
they're
they're.
The
easy
example
because
everybody
shops
at
Amazon
at
some
point,
but
if
we
knew
that
Amazon
kept
all
their
data
with
this
third
party
over
here,
we've
suddenly
made
that
third
party
a
much
bigger
Target,
because
now
the
world
knows
that
all
the
Amazon's
data
is
over
there.
E
E
E
That's
a
that's
a
big
company
that
can
do
a
lot
of
harm.
Now,
that's
the
first
big
change.
The
other
is
the
enforcement
provision.
What
I
have
in
here
now
looks
like
Virginia
looks
like
Colorado
I
believe
also
like
Utah,
and
it's
somewhat
similar
to
California's
enforcement
provision,
which
relies
on
the
oag.
E
What
I
wanted
was
something
different
from
that
when
you
have
pure
oag
enforcement,
there's
a
political
threshold
or
a
threshold,
that's
governed
at
least
somewhat
by
politics,
regardless
of
the
occupant
of
the
office,
Republican
or
Democrat,
doesn't
matter,
we've
all
dealt
with
both
Republicans
and
Democrats
in
that
office.
It
does
not
matter.
There's
a
political
calculation
beneath
that
threshold.
E
The
oag
is
not
going
to
act
beyond
the
form
letter
that
gets
sent
if
you've
ever
dealt
with
the
consumer
protection
part
of
the
oag
right
now,
if
you've
got
a
constituent
or
review
yourself
of
your
filed,
a
complaint,
you
go
on
the
website,
you
fill
out
the
form
you
send
it
off.
A
form
letter
is
populated
and
mailed
out.
I,
don't
know
that
a
human
touches
it.
E
That's
how
this
is
going
to
work
according
to
a
study
by
the
California
AG,
which
I
find
suspect,
but
let's
just
assume
for
the
sake
of
argument
that
it's
accurate.
They
argue
that
70
percent
of
the
time
that
form
letter
is
effective.
It
it
sufficiently
scares
whatever
bad
actor
into
doing.
What
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
I
would
prefer
what
my
original
version
had,
which
was
a
very
limited
private
right
of
action
that
did
not
allow
for
money,
damages
only
Equitable
relief,
so
you
can
ask
for
an
injunction.
E
E
E
Right
now
it
has
oag
enforcement
and
a
lower
threshold.
That's
a
high
level
attitude
of
the
bill.
It'll
be
the
first
thing
I
file
on
the
first
day
of
my
last
session
and
I
pray
to
goodness
something
like
it
passes,
if
not
in
24,
then,
sometime
soon
thereafter,
because
the
people
of
Kentucky
deserve
a
little
bit
of
protection,
I
believe
in
closing
Mr,
chairman
and
members,
the
data
economy
is
worth
a
lot
to
businesses
and
to
Consumers
I
benefit
from
it.
I'm
a
Kroger
plus
member
I'm,
a
hux
member,
whatever
they
call
their
thing.
E
B
Thank
you,
Senator
Westerville.
What
a
informative
amount
of
information
you've
given
us
today,
I
have
a
couple
of
comments
and
questions
and
I
think
we
have
a
couple.
People
have
questions.
Also
I
was
interested
to
hear
your
talk
about
this
dark
pattern,
because
I
didn't
know
what
they
call
that,
but
it's
certainly
frustrating
to
try
to
get
on
your
phone
and
do
something
and
you
look
for
10
or
15
20
seconds
to
be
able
to
find
that
little
X
that
they
try
to
hide
so
well.
Yes,.
E
B
And
you
know
over
the
years
when
I
get
certain
things
in
the
mail,
maybe
especially
for
my
bank
or
maybe
a
doctor's
office,
there's
always
some
type
of
a
privacy
notice.
Now
some
of
that
stuff
seems
a
little
overdone
sometimes,
but
is
that
one
of
the
types
of
things
that
this
bill
is
going
to
accomplish?
It's
like
when
you're
in
a
doctor's
office
and
they
go?
Have
you
sign
a
privacy
it?
It.
E
E
In
there,
someone
from
the
bus
follows
him
into
the
coffee
shop,
and
then
the
person
from
the
bus
and
the
coffee
shop
follows
him
to
the
doctor's
appointment
and
then
one
of
the
nurses
from
the
doctor
and
the
coffee
shop
and
the
bus,
and
they
fall
into
the
next
thing
and
by
the
end
of
the
day,
he's
got
a
crowd
of
people
that
is
directly
analogous
it
is.
It
is
exactly
what
is
happening
digitally
with
all
of
us
today.
E
It
looks
different
in
terms
of
where
each
of
us
are
going,
but
if
you
think
the
people
I
mentioned
this
earlier
on
the
on
websites,
if
you
don't
think
that
what
you're
doing
is
is
not
being
tracked
or
following
you
from
site
to
site
and
what
you
search
for
online,
it
is
even
when
you
go
through
the
effort,
and
there
are
some
Provisions
in
the
bill
that
that
require
businesses
to
comply.
If
you
direct
your
browser,
say
to
not
track
you,
there
are
still
browsers
that
do
it
anyway.
E
She's
probably
watching
this.
She
can.
She
can
correct
that
she
might
be
in
the
audience.
I,
don't
know,
did
I
get
that
wrong,
so
you've
got
you've
got
some
people
are
going
to
respond
that
way,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
want
to
know
what
the
heck's
happening
with
the
information
I'm
sharing
or
even
back
up
more
than
that,
what
information
am
I
sharing.
E
E
E
I,
don't
want
children
getting
on
leader,
fares,
Senator,
bourbon
website
and
buying
boost
he
doesn't
either.
But
how
do
you
do
that
in
a
way,
that's
responsible?
How
do
you
do
that
in
a
way?
That's
constitutionally
valid?
How
do
you
do
that
in
a
way
that
allows
businesses
that
have
a
right
to
exist,
to
do
so,
but
still
do
business
safely
and
protect
the
people
that
we
need
to
protect.
D
Thank
you
for
breaking
this
legislation.
Senator
I
do
think
it's
a
critical
thing
for
the
general
assembly
to
consider
this
next
session.
I've
got
two
quick
questions:
the
controller
that
you
Define
the
responsibilities
for
in
this
legislation,
I'm
assuming
and
we
know
how
dangerous
that
is,
but
that
is
a
person
identified
at
each
one
of
these
establishments
that
meets
that
consumer
threshold.
Yes,
okay,
so
if.
D
E
E
E
D
E
D
E
Rights
are
by
the
way
on
page
13.
They
start
on
page
13
and
go
into
the
top
of
14.
and
I
believe
the
right
to
delete
the
data,
which
is
B
26
on
line
26
2B
is
the
right
that
leader,
Thayer,
suggested.
Get
a
copy
of
the
data,
opt
out
of
targeted
advertising.
That's
a
big
one
opt
out
of
tracking
again
they
shouldn't
be
able
to
follow
you
unless
you
want
them
to
follow.
You
Kate
opt
out
of
the
sale
or
sharing
of
that
personal
information.
You
should
be
allowed
to
say
no.
E
F
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
senator
for
the
bill.
I
have
a
question.
Well
a
statement
and
a
question.
One
I
know
all
of
this
is
very
important
has
been
probably
especially
over
the
last
couple
years.
One
one
thing
that
is
very
frustrating
to
me:
I
know
like
if
you,
if
you
say
Taco,
Bell
20
times
you're,
going
to
see
Taco
Bell
ads
pop
up
in
your
Facebook
feed.
That's
annoying!
Just
because
I
say
Taco
Bell
doesn't
mean
I
actually
want
to
go
there.
F
But
my
question
is
this:
is:
is
there
a
way
to,
instead
of
having
all
of
the
forms
and
everything
that
that
I
know
we
have
to
have?
Is
there
a
simple
way
to
allow
people
in
to
opt
into
tracking
into
data
collection?
In
other
words,
if
I
go
into
a
coffee
shop
and
I
get
a
pop-up
on
my
phone,
because
I
know
my
phone
knows
that
I'm
at
the
at
the
coffee
shop-
and
it
says:
do
you
allow
ex-
coffee
shop
to
use
your
data,
yes
or
no?
F
What
prevents
us
from
having
that
sort
of
a
system
to
where
a
consumer
must
opt
in
rather
than
having
the
sort
of
system
that
says
the
companies
collect
whatever
data
that
that
they
want,
regardless
of
if
the
consumer
wants
it,
and
if
the
consumer
doesn't
want
it,
they
have
to
go
through
this
whole
list.
Go
online,
opt
out
all
of
this.
This
sort
of
thing
which
to
me
honestly,
is
nonsense.
F
E
E
E
There
might
be
some
that
share
some
data
and,
as
I've
just
said,
as
you
just
said,
I
there
are.
There
are
places
where
I
share
information.
I've
got
an
Eddie
Bauer
account,
I
get
promotional
emails
from
Randolph
sunglasses
got
an
account
there
I
there
are
places
where
I
choose
to
share,
but
most
of
the
places
I
do
business
with
I'm.
Not
sharing
that
information.
E
D
E
That's
appalling:
when
I
get
the
bill
to
the
house
on
another
32-3,
two
Vote
or
33
to
one
vote,
please
feel
free
to
add
that
as
an
amendment
and
see
how
it
goes,
maybe
it's
got
more
more
legs
than
I
think
if
our
people
knew
that
we
didn't
have
this
protection
and
what
these
rights
are
and
yeah
yeah
I'm.
Not
none
of
these
six
rights
cause
a
business
to
not
be
able
to
do
what
they
want
to
do.
E
G
B
D
G
All
right,
thank
you
earlier
when
you
were
discussing
the
bill.
You
had
mentioned
that
you
would
would
like
that
threshold
to
begin
at
at
one.
Yes,
sir,
so
can
you
and
you
may
have
shared
this
and
and
if
you
did
I
apologize
for
not
catching
it,
can
you
can
you
give
me
some
feedback
on
how
you
arrived
at
the
25
000.
E
E
E
It
is
the
bare
minimum
that
a
responsible
business
operator
of
any
size
should
be
doing
I.
What
we
ask
for
are
things
that
they
should
be
doing
today
without
this
law
in
place,
so
the
threshold
should
be
one
in
my
opinion
and
I
I
suspect
there
will
be
a
day
when
the
threshold
is
won.
That'll
come
legislatures
down
the
road
when
people
finally
realize
just
how
dangerous
data
is
and
how
valuable
it
is
and
how
much
we
need
protections,
but
I
picked
25
000
to
compromise
I.
E
E
B
Well,
Senator
Westerville!
Thank
you,
so
much
I
mean
I
can't
even
begin
to
Fathom
how
much
work
you
have
put
into
this
bill
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
that.
You
know
this
last
session
when
the
Senate
passed
this
bill.
We
did
so
in
a
short
session,
and
this
is
a
very
it's
a
it's
a
lot
amount.
It's
a
lot
of
information
to
absorb
in
a
short
session
and
I
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
speaking
for
the
house
members,
but
probably
maybe
that
was
some
of
the
difficulty
last
year
because
it
is.