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A
Before
we
start
again,
the
formal
part
of
the
agenda
I'm,
like
everyone
just
take
a
moment
to
think
of
what
happened
in
Louisville
yesterday
and
you
know
our
thoughts
and
prayers
or
with
those
family
members
who
are
suffering
from
this,
but
also
the
family
members
of
the
the
young
man
who
was
the
Genesis
for
all
this
very
unfortunate
situation.
But
that's
what
we
could
just
have
a
moment
of
silence
and
remember
to
those
people.
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C
A
A
A
This
Corrections
agenda,
including
the
personal
service
contract
list,
PSC
Amendment
list
memorandum
of
agreement,
lists
memorandum
of
agreement,
Amendment
list
and
Kentucky
entertainment
incentive
programming
agreement
list,
except
for
those
items
being
selected
for
further
view.
Do
we
have
a
motion?
Consider
the
contracts
reviewed
without
objection.
Motion
motion
is
the
second
second
by
represent
Napoli.
E
A
F
Just
have
a
couple:
what
caught
my
attention
was
when
I
was
looking
through?
These
was
the
amount
I
mean
50
million,
but
just
maybe
some
clarification
stuff.
Why
was
Triad
chosen
as
a
physical
agent
for
the
project
and
is
there
any
money
that's
paid
to
paid
out
to
them
as
the
physical
agent
I
guess,
maybe
explain
a
little
bit.
E
So
this
is
the
the
seventh
sixth
or
seventh,
the
last
of
our
budget
line
items
that
we
had
to
do
from
House
Bill,
one
that
line,
and
we
had
kind
of
capital
construction
projects
that
we
had
to
do.
Moas
or
personal
service
contracts
with,
and
this
had
to
be
a
personal
service
contract
because,
according
to
House
Bill
one,
we
had
to
distribute
the
funds
to
Regional
Economic
Development
Authority
to
con
to
support
the
construction,
and
so
Triad
is
with
the
regional
Economic
Development
Authority.
E
That
was
selected
by
the
Covington
Life
Sciences
partners
that
is
going
to
be
building
the
building.
And
so
that's
why
they
were
selected.
There
is
no
money,
it's
a
pass-through.
All
of
the
money
will
be
used
for
the
building
and
the
upfit
and
the
equipment
associated
with
the
wet
lab.
So
there
is
no
money
paid
to
any
of
the
entities
that
were
selected
as
the
fiscal
agents
for
any
of
the
line
items
projects
in
the
budget.
F
Okay,
thanks
for
that
and
I
guess,
as
far
as
referring
back
to
the
physical
agent
has
tried
previously
ever
served
as
a
physical
agent
on
a
state
or
federal
Grant
of
this
magnitude
that
you
know
of.
E
Thinking,
18
million
I
know
they've
served
as
a
at
one
point.
They
were
I
think
they
might
have
been
operating
as
part
of
one
of
our
offices
years
ago
of
the
Innovation
and
commercialization
centers
that
are
now
called
The,
Rise
Hub
offices,
but
that's
no
longer
Tria,
that's
with
blue
North,
but
we
have
worked
with
Triad
previously.
F
And
I'm
just
trying
to
ascertain
their
expertise
in
the
air
in
in
that
so
so
they've
had
they've
got
some
experience.
Yes,
okay
and
you
just
brought
up
another
interesting
point
with
the
name
change.
Will
this
conduct
have
to
be
redone
or
does
it.
E
E
That
work,
so
we
did
ask
them
about
that,
and
that
is
still
their
name
as
filed
with
the
Secretary
of
State's
office
they're.
Just
using
the
this.
E
E
A
A
I
motion
carries
for
your
excuse
yourself
from
the
table.
We've
got
a
very
kind
of
slight
agenda
today.
I
wish
you'd
take
a
few
moments
to
share
with
the
committee
members
the
success
of
our
film
incentive
program,
this
kind
of
purview
of
this
committee,
but
I
think
it's
very
interesting
and
just
some
historical
perspective
for
the
committee
members
is.
This
is
a
program
that
was
put
in
place
during
the
Bevin
Administration.
Excuse
me,
it
was
Steve
Bashir
Administration
originally
to
encourage
Film
Production
in
Kentucky
and
was
very
successful.
A
We
went
from
virtually
doing
nothing
in
Kentucky
to
having
hundreds
of
contracts
in
the
queue
and
I
think
people
misunderstood
the
program.
The
centers
that
we're
offering
in
the
previous
legislation
had
had
really
concurred.
Tailed
the
benefits
and
practical
had
killed
the
program
and
was
reinstituted.
Was
it
two
years
ago
two
sessions?
It.
E
A
Well,
this
always
been
a
particular
interest
to
me,
because
the
Southern
Kentucky
Film
Institute
or
a
group
which
was
in
my
district,
had
really
done
a
great
job
of
recruiting
a
field
Ministry
to
Kentucky,
particularly
this
area
of
the
state,
and
we
were
developing
a
really
strong
industry
in
in
media
production
and
when
the
changes
were
made,
it
pretty
much
killed
the
program.
But
then
we
reinstituted
the
tax
incentives.
So
again,
if
you
would
just
share
with
them
on
the
success
we've
seen
on
the
last
couple
years.
So.
E
At
the
end
of
the
Productions
you'll,
see
our
cabinet
logo
I've
seen
a
couple
of
them.
There
was
a
Christmas
movie
on
last
December.
There
was
a
television
production,
there's
been
articles
and
news
stories
when
they've
been
in
the
communities
I've
seen
an
article
recently
there's
a
filming
I
think
it's
for
production
that
might
be
on
Lifetime
or
Hallmark,
but
it's
a
movie
and
it
was
filming
in
Somerset
we've
seen,
we've
got
approvals,
a
good
coverage
across
the
state
and
we
do
have
the
crew
we've
been
out
to
visit
with
some
of
the
Productions.
E
A
We
certainly
hope
there
is
and
again
because
it
had
some
personal
involvement
with
this
I
have
a
tendency
to
look
at
the
end
of
films.
That's
where
most
people
kind
of
switch
channels,
but
to
see
the
number
of
people
involved
in
the
production
of
of
of
a
movie
or
a
television
program.
It's
phenomenal.
This
is
an
industry
in
itself
that
creates
jobs.
We
have
a
tendency
to
think
about
manufacturing
as
a
sole
source
of
Economic
Development.
A
This
is
manufacturing,
but
a
kind
of
a
digital
nature
and
I
encourage
you
to
really
take
a
look
at
this
and
I've
noticed
the
Georgia
Peach
on
a
lot.
New
Mexico
seems
to
have
a
very
strong
program
as
well,
but
the
criticism
program
previously
was
in
cinema,
something
30
percent,
and
the
interesting
thing
about
this
folks
is
that
seems
to
be
really
lucrative.
Well.
That
means
you
get
70
percent
of
what
you
never
got
before.
A
So
would
you
like
to
have
100
of
nothing
or
70
of
something
and
that's
what
it
boils
down
to,
but
very
enthusiastic
growth
in
the
century?
Very
glad
to
hear
that
so
appreciate
you
sharing
that
with
us
and
folks
appreciate
you
letting
me
share
that
with
you,
because,
as
we
come
up
this
next
session,
2024
is
another
budget
cycle
and
folks
are
always
looking
at
programs.
We're
going
to
make
sure
that
we
sustain
this,
and
thank
you
appreciate
you
being
here
today
and
Mr.
Wingate
hope
this
wasn't
too
painful
for
you.
G
Not
at
all,
not
at
all
appreciate
it
most.
Certainly,
yes,
as
I
read
you
these
contracts
about
those
those
jobs
that
come
in
and
they
produce
a
film.
Do
they
typically
continue
to
produce
other
films?
Are
they
leaving
other
people
come
in
and
say
because
if
you're
talking
about
Economic,
Development
and
creating
jobs,
thank
you
no
typical
jobs.
When
you
factory
locates,
you
know
the
few
people
stay
so
I.
Just
wonder
what
you
thought
about.
E
So
we
have
kind
of
there's
two
different
scenarios.
You
have
one
where
one
production
company
comes
in
and
they're
just
producing
one
film,
and
so
then
they'll
use
that
crew.
But
then
we
have
others
that
have
are
they're
laying
out
various
Productions
so
that
they
can
move
the
cruise
from
one
production
to
another.
So
it's
kind
of
it's
not
necessarily
a
full-time
job,
but
they
are
working
12
months
out
of
the
year,
because
they're
moving
from
production
to
production
with
that
same
director
and
producer.
E
So
we
we
do
see
and
we
have
one
that
started
off
with
a
crew
that
could
keep
them
working
and
films
for
the
full
12
months
and
now
he's
got
two
crew.
He
moved
he's
after
12
months
of
our
program.
He's
got
two
Crews
that
can
keep
busy
for
the
full
12
months
and
now
I
think
we're
he's
working
on
a
third
crew,
so
we're
we're
very
excited
to
see
it
grow.
Thank
you.
A
D
A
The
pulled
list
excuse
me
with
the
office:
administrative
Services
is
number
50
on
the
PSE
green
list.
The
agency
has
a
conflict
and
has
requested
a
deferral
of
the
meeting.
So
there's
a
to
the
May
meeting.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
defer
some
move?
Second
motion
by
co-chair
Hart
seconded
by
Central
Douglas
also
favorable
proposed
vote.
No.
Can
please
call
the
road.
H
A
A
A
A
C
C
With
me,
appearing
today
is
Cassandra
Weiss
she's,
our
director
of
procurement
and
I
believe
we
may
have
Kathy
McNaughton
on
on
the
line
as
well.
Just
if
there's
any
specific
procurement
issues
that
the
committee
wanted
to
wanted
answers
to
they're
here
to
answer
those
I
can
answer
the
legal
side
of
things.
A
Right,
thank
you.
We
appreciate
you
being
available
to
us
this
morning.
Coach,
hair
Hart,
has
questions
regarding
this
contract.
It's.
F
More
of
a
more
of
maybe
a
clarification
because
I
think
I
might
know
the
answer,
but
I
wanted
to
make
for
certain
of
this.
The
of
course
we've
got
the
ongoing
issue
with
the
California
AG,
putting
us
on
an
old
Travel
list
and
stuff,
and
we've
been
making
comments
and
addressing
that
for
some
time,
but
on
this
particular
contract
as
I
read
it,
and
this
is
where
I
want.
Maybe
you
can
can
can
clarify
I
can't
get
that
out.
F
Maybe
you
can
clarify
or
just
re
affirm
what
I
think
might
be
the
case,
but
this
legal
case
that
this
contract
refers
to
that's
an
ongoing
case.
That's
actually
in
California
correct
that.
C
Is
correct?
Yes,
we're
in
Orange
county
in
California
is
where
this
action
is
taking
place,
and
this
firm
is
our
firm
located
in
California.
We've
been
we're
involved
in
the
litigation
out
there.
Okay.
F
And
and
so
I'm
assuming
that,
because
it's
a
California
case,
you're
you're,
obtaining
a
legal
representation
from
a
California
law
firm,
because
a
little
bit
more
efficient
makes
it
work
a
little
bit
better.
Correct.
C
F
C
We
were
sued
by
a
California
entity,
the
public,
the
Kentucky
Retirement
Systems,
was
in
2019.
This
is
an
ancillary
case
to
the
Mayberry
litigation
which
I'm
sure
everyone
is
familiar
with,
and
so
this
is
a
spin-off
of
that
matter
and
we
were
sued
in
California
and
so
we're
taking
up
we're
having
to
go
out.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and-
and
this
is
this
is
just
an
education
point
for
me.
Should
we
win
the
case
which
I
expect
them
to
do?
We
do
we
get
to
recoup
expenses.
C
F
J
H
Good
morning,
I'm
Jennifer,
Smith,
executive,
director
of
government
and
external
relations
for
WKU
and
with
me,
are
several
several
members
of
our
faculty
on
this
contract.
So
I
will
let
Dr
Boma
Dr,
Greene
and
Dr
Griffiths
introduce
themselves.
J
Good
morning
Senators,
my
name
is
Daniel
Obama
Department
of
Social
Work
at
Western,
Kentucky,
University
and
I.
Have
my
colleague,
Dr
Kimberly
green
here.
A
Thank
you
for
being
available
to
us
this
morning.
Coach
Earhart
has
questions
on
both
items,
we'll
start
with
contract
number
70
in
our
PSC
Amendment
Ivory
list,
and
that's
with
The
Lunchbox
Incorporated
co-chair
Hart.
F
Well,
it's
more
not
as
much
questions
more
of
a
concern
and
I
can
kind
of
lump
them
together,
but
I.
If
you
all
want
to
comment
you're
more
than
welcome
to
once
again,
the
officials
in
California
have
reinfo
emphasize
that
Kentucky
will
be
on
a
no
Travel
list
for
all
their
employees
and
in
the
effort
to
I,
guess
punish
us
economically
because
of
some
legislation.
We
passed
here
recently
and
We've
myself
and
co-chair
Meredith.
F
We've
seen
this
over
the
years,
and-
and
this
is
this-
has
been
an
ongoing
thing
and
I
just
I
want
to
try
to
reiterate
to
everybody.
We
have
no
mechanism
to
fight
this
or
to
refute
this
other
than
committees
like
this
to
where
we
can
make
a
statement.
You
know
we
are
a
sovereign
state.
The
state
of
California
should
not
weigh
in
on
our
legislative
process.
We
don't
weigh
in
on
our
legislative
process,
so
they
shouldn't
weigh
on
ours.
F
Unfortunately,
because
of
their
actions,
we
are,
are
forced
to
look
at
ways
to
make
the
statement
and
take
actions
against
them
to
correct,
in
my
opinion,
they're
wrong
doing.
But
with
that
being
said,
we've
consistently
brought
California
contracts
up
and
we've
disapproved
California
contracts
and
once
again,
with
him
re-emphasizing
that
I'm
bringing
the
California
contracts
back
up.
I
would
like
to
encourage
the
Western,
Kentucky,
University
and
all
entities
of
Kentucky
state
government
to
look
elsewhere
when
procuring
Services
of
any
type.
F
If
we
allow
one
state
to
hurt
us
economically
and
we
don't
take
action
against
it,
then
it
could
be
a
Snowball
Effect
and
at
some
point
it
will
financially
hurt
us
right
now.
I
think
it's
on
a
level
that
we're
we're
not
being
really
detrimental,
harms
not
being
caused
to
us.
But
it's
the
fact
that
elected
officials
of
their
state
have
taken
actions
against
our
state
for
our
legislative
process
and
that's
the
the
statement
I'm
trying
to
make
and
with
that
I
would.
F
J
Your
sentiment
and
as
Kentucky
State
citizens,
we
share
the
same
sentiments
as
well.
We
have
started
this
project
with
a
partner
in
Kentucky.
This
is
a
peculiar
project
that
NIH
specifically
for
commercialization,
so
they
have
very
specific
deliverables
that
we
have
to
go
in
front
of
a
panel
every
six
months
to
make
sure
that
we're
delivering
to
be
able
to
access
additional
funding
every
six
months.
J
So
we
initially,
we
partnered
with
the
with
the
partner
in
Kentucky,
because
that's
where
we
wanted
it
to
be,
unfortunately,
what
they
delivered
was
not
at
par
with
the
market
expectations
and
they
redrew
from
the
contract.
J
So
we
interview
actually
interview
for
entities
including
three
in
Kentucky,
because
our
funding
was
at
risk
at
that
time
and
out
of
that,
the
lunch
box
stood
out
and
we
then
signed
a
contract
with
them
right
now
we
are
at
the
stage
of
developing
the
product
to
MVP
minimum
viable
products
section,
so
we
are
buying
to
work
with
them
to
get
to
that
point.
If
we
withdraw
in
this
time
it
will.
The
project
could
not
move
forward
because
we
are
doing
better
testing.
They
have
developed
the
product.
J
We
are
looking
at
marketing
options
right
and
company
options
that
may
change
our
calculation,
but
right
now
at
this
moment
it
make
so
as
to
finish
what
they
have
started,
because
the
market
is
coming
without
being
able
to
disclose
too
much
of
the
product
and
share
with
you
because
of
non-disclosure
agreement.
J
I
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
yeah,
just
a
short
one,
the
the
words
the
words
used
were
this,
the
California
company
stood
out
and
if
he
could
for
the
committee,
could
you
explain
to
to
me
in
particular
in
the
committee
in
general?
What
stood
out
means
that
what
was
it
because
of
what
they
offered?
Was
it,
because
what
they
offered
was
more
usable?
Was
the
cost
benefit
ratio
more?
Is
it
going
to
be
more
future
compatible?
Could
you
help
me
with
that?
Please,
thank
you.
Mr
chair
sure.
K
We
did
look
at
several
businesses
here
and
options
here
in
Kentucky
and
they
were
able
to
provide
us
with
what
we
needed
from
a
technology
standpoint
and
a
financial
standpoint
in
the
turnaround
time
that
we
needed
to
meet
the
objectives
of
the
grant
of
the
NIH
Grant
in
terms
of
deliverables.
So
the
quality,
as
well
as
the
cost
Effectiveness
and
the
return
on
investment
in
matching
what
we
needed
for
product
development
was
what
stood
out
with
the
launchbox
company.
K
They
are
aware
of
the
issues
between
the
states
and
they
have
sought,
are
seeking
to
to
declare
a
business
status
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
as
well.
A
A
I
G
F
Yes
and
Mr
chair
can
I
explain
my
vote
most,
certainly
just
one
real,
quick
comment.
You
know
we've
been
looking
at
this
situation
with
California
for
some
years
now
or
several
years
now,
and
due
to
the
fact
that
we
they've
looked
at
Kentucky
companies
and
that
this
particular
company
has
recognized
the
issue
and
trained
to
become
or
open
up
an
office
here
in
Kentucky
I
will
vote
Yes
to
support
this.
A
I'm
in
high
as
well,
and
just
want
to
express
my
appreciation
of
folks
at
Western,
Kentucky
University,
who
are
having
this
sensitivity
about
our
issue
with
California
I,
just
want
to
show
you
again
we're
not
intending
to
to
penalize
anyone,
but
we
certainly
want
the
sovereignty
of
the
state
to
be
recognized
and
I
really
appreciate
the
comments.
I've
heard
this
morning
that
you
folks
have
this
awareness.
A
This
is
something
that
we've
been
discussing
for
several
years
now
and
we're
seeing
fewer
and
fewer
contracts
from
California
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
primary
reasons
of
why
so
I
appreciate
you.
All's
awareness
of
this
I
appreciate
your
sensitivity
to
it
that
the
motion
carries.
The
final
contract
is
number
12
on
the
PSC
for
ten
thousand
under
Goldenrod
list
and
again
co-chair
Hart
has
questions
or
a
question
or
a
commentary.
D
Sure,
and
thank
you
for
inviting
us
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
these
contracts,
so
for
this
particular
contract
I
have
a
long-standing
relationship
with
this
individual
we've
worked
together
in
multitude
of
capacities
for
22
years.
He
was
at
Indiana
University
in
Bloomington
for
many
years
where
we
worked
together
and
he's
currently
works
for
Ohio
University
in
Athens
Ohio,
where
I
formally
worked
before
coming
to
WKU
and
so
I
know
his
strengths
and
what
he
brings
to
the
table
in
on
the
timeline
that
we're
on.
D
D
In
my
home
department
is
our
Department
of
Public
Health,
but
I
don't
have
the
time,
given
that
this
is
the
largest
college
at
WKU
and
we
have
16
undergraduate
programs,
12
Masters,
two
professional
doctorates
and
14
different
accrediting
bodies
that
we
are
trying
to
constantly
are
working
on
self-studies
inside
physics
Etc.
D
So
if
I
had
the
time
to
do
this,
and
in
my
former
institution
I,
was
this
person
and
and
worked
with
Michael,
though
still
to
help
lead
us
through
a
successful
accreditation
site
visit
and
so
I'm
hopeful
that
he
will
do
the
same
for
us
here
at
Western,
Kentucky
University
on
the
timeline
that
we've
been
given.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
So
a
lot
of
what
what
this
individual
is
doing
is
is
to
ensure
that
your
office
accreditation,
stay
certified
and
and
up-to-date,
so
to
speak.
D
A
A
G
Know
we
talk
about
this
situation
in
California,
we've
been
talking
about
it
since
I've
been
on
the
committee
and
I
I
do
appreciate.
You
know
the
difficulty
sometimes
to
get
services,
but
mine
is
supposed
to
be
more
about
just
a
note
to
just
continue
to
remind
people
to
try
to
avoid
doing
business
with
California
until
they
want
to
do
business.
F
And
one
brief
comment
once
again:
I
think
the
circumstances
with
reaffirming
the
accreditation
that
WKU
needs.
It
warrants
deviating
from
a
usual
position
on
California
contracts.
So
I
will
vote
Yes.
A
D
D
A
If
you
would,
please
take
a
moment
to
review
item
11
on
the
agenda,
which
is
an
exemption
request,
these
are
not
unusual
it
because
of
our
biannual
budgets.
Sometimes
the
funding
goes
beyond
a
certain
period.
These
are
rather
routine.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
motion?
My
co-chair
heart,
a
second
second,
second,
all
is
favorable.
Dials
opposed
vote,
no
Kim!
Please
call
the
road.
C
A
Motion
carries
just
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
here
before
we
adjourn.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
May
9th
9
A.M
same
place
same
station,
then
we'll
obviously
follow
the
June
meeting.
July
is
when
he
really
get
some
fun
with
a
lot
of
contracts
review.
This
meeting
was
37
minutes.
It
is
not
a
committee
record
that
was
previously
23
minutes,
which
was
set
by
chair
and
co-chairman
Meredith,
just
trying
to
establish
the
bar
for
Coach,
Earhart
and
future
meetings,
see.