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City of Kingston Appeals Committee meeting held on November 16, 2020. For complete meeting details please visit https://bit.ly/2YoukZM
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Through
you,
your
chair,
so
just
add
some
comments
to
officer
walker's
description
since
our
last
meeting.
The
decision
of
the
committee
was
to
provide
the
issuing
officer
and
the
appeals
committee,
a
maintenance
plan
by
november
15th,
and
also
to
provide
some
sort
of
documentation
or
evidence
in
relation
to
the
landlord-tenant
board.
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I
see
that
mr
mack
is
here
as
in
the
waiting
room,
and
perhaps
he
can
provide
us
with
an
update
on
the
reasons
why
a
maintenance
plan
has
not
been
submitted
yet
and
if
he
does
have
any
of
the
landlord-tenant
documentation
for
evidence
failing
to
provide
from
our
standpoint,
failing
to
provide
us
an
adequate
summary,
as
requested,
the
municipality
would
be
requesting
that
we
confirm
the
orders
for
both
properties.
Today,
that's
the
only
comments
I
have
at
this
point.
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E
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
people
living
there,
so
I
would
say
by
the
end
of
next
week
everyone
should
be
removed,
and
that
is
the
time
I
will
plan
on
the
rook
in
terms
of
fixing
up
the
place
mind
you
that
I
believe
that
the
exterior
of
the
the
window
frame,
if
I'm
correct,
has
been
painted
a
little
bit.
Obviously
the
the
what
the
the
officers
did
not
go
and
check.
I
did
not
tell
them
at
the
same
time
too,
so
they
don't
have
up-to-date
information.
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So
I
would
say
by
early
december
I
would
have
a
plan
what
to
do
in
terms
of
the
work
that's
required
inside
the
house
and
outside
of
the
house
order
has
been
approved
already.
One
has
been
totally
evicted,
542
victoria,
it's
just
a
544
victoria,
because
it's
two
different
units
that
one
has
an
order
that
was
approved
a
little
bit
later,
so
we
cannot
apply
for
a
sheriff
to
be
on
site
to
evict
the
occupants
until
you
next
week.
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E
You're
asking
me:
what's
the
alternative
you
I
am
yes,
the
alternative
would
be
what
I
just
said,
which
I
plan
to
well,
which
I
have
will
be
sending
people
in
tomorrow
to
assess
the
situation
at
542
victoria
because,
like
I
said
before,
we
can't
even
get
in
so
how
do
I
give
you
guys
a
plan
what
to
do
and
the
interior
just
based
on
the
pictures
that
ebony
has
sent
me.
It
doesn't
really
tell
me
much
right.
I
need
to
go.
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Further
that
under
the
ltb
legislation,
it
provides
a
property
owner
with
the
ability
to
issue
a
24-hour
notice
to
advise
occupants
or
tenants
that
they're
going
to
enter
the
property
for
such
things
as
inspections
of
maintenance
for
safety
issues
and
safety
concerns.
The
property
owner
could
have
contacted
the
police
to
keep
the
peace
during
that
process,
and
we
feel
that
there
is
adequate
and
suffice
time
frames
for
the
property
owner
to
achieve
that
and
to
have
a
due
diligent
report
prepared
for
this
meeting
today.
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So
I
would
my
only
comment
would
be
that
I
think
there
was
ample
time
for
the
documentation
we
requested
to
be
provided.
It
is
the
decision
was
pretty
clear
and
it
was
just
the
submission
of
some
documentation,
a
photocopy
of
the
proceedings
from
the
landlord
tenant
board
and
an
estimate
on
the
exterior
I
think
work
could
have
been
provided
so.
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A
Google
second
counselor
mclaren
was
second
any
comment:
okay,
all
those
in
favor
thank
you
and
so
that
passes.
So
I'm
544
victoria
street,
as
as
I
understand
it,
the
circumstances
are
more
or
less
the
same.
The
eviction
has
not
taken
place
yet
the,
but
it's
supposed
to
happen
next
week.
We
all
heard
that
so
do.
Does
the
committee
have
any
further
comment
regarding
544
victoria?
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E
I
may
not
have
done
exactly
what
you
folks
have
asked
for,
but,
like
I
said
before
the
interior,
I
did
not
know
that,
like
we
can
just
go
in
like
that,
just
because
we
have
been
kicked
out
a
few
times,
okay
with
force,
so
all
in
all,
I'm
sure
they
have
their
side
of
the
story
in
terms
of
the
offices.
I
have
my
side
of
the
story,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
definitely
want
them
evicted.
I
want
to
put
them
up
to
standards
and
rent
it
out.
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E
She
first
gave
an
order
on
542
victoria,
but
knowing
544
victoria's
illegal
occupants.
She
still
went
in
without,
like
my
permission,
to
go
in
and
do
all
the
inspection
whatsoever
despite
those
occupants
are
illegally
squatting
on
the
premise
like
what
is
the
legal
issue
on
that?
Just
because
I
wouldn't
have
proved
it
because
those
are
not
even
my
tenants,
she's
just
walking
just
because
the
occupants
or
the
squatters
say
we're
not
happy
with
it.
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We
want
to
cause
mr
mack
trouble
so
come
in,
but
the
city
of
kingston
knows
about
the
occupants
at
both
sides.
Already
they
did
put
the
charge
on
542
side,
but
before
they
put
the
544
charge
charge
on
544
sides,
they
have
knowledge
both
then
and
ebony
that
there
are
illegal
occupants
in
there
and
we
are
trying
to
evict
them
like
at
least
they
should
have
respected
the
owner
and
tell
them
in
advance.
Well
and
let
them
know
you
know
what
we're
still
going
in
regardless,
whether
there's
illegal
occupants
or
not.
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A
Is
because
sometimes
tenants
can
be-
or
in
my
case,
members
of
co-ops
can
be
intimidated
by
the
management
or
the
owners
or
whoever.
So
that's
my
understanding
of
it,
and
so
the
city
was
not
doing
anything.
It
wouldn't
normally
do
regarding
property
standards
that
wouldn't
be
applied
to
anyone
else.
A
So
I
and
I'm
talking
to
someone
who
you
know
it,
can
be
infuriating
because
you've
never
had
a
chance
to
do
anything
about
it,
but
that's
not
the
function
of
the
property
standards
department,
okay,
that's
an
issue
between
the
landlord
and
tenant
or
member
the
people
in
the
building.
So
having
said
that,
I
don't
know
if
mr
hazel
has
anything
you
would
like
to
add
to
that.
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A
That
doesn't,
but,
as
I
said,
mr
mack,
that
doesn't
matter
the
occupants-
and
I
agree
that
it's
well,
if
you
got
an
eviction,
I
guess
we
could
draw
the
conclusion
that
they
were
there
illegally.
It
doesn't.
It
doesn't
matter
as
far
as
property
standards
is
concerned,
because
our
concern
as
a
committee
and
as
a
department
is
on
the
condition
of
the
property,
the
legal.
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E
Oh,
I
understand
I
understand
so
I
can,
hypothetically
speaking,
I
can
go
into
someone's
house,
just
a
dance
house
call
upon
the
city
and
they
go
for
inspection
and
then
found
out.
Dan's
house
has
some
problem
just
because
I'm
in
there
just
to
make
the
complaint-
and
that's
perfectly
fine,
like
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
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E
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A
So
I
think
you
put
your
finger
on
it.
It's
good
faith.
If
you
don't
get
back
to
the
city
clerk
or
the
property
standards
department,
when
they
ask
you
to
and
when
they
supply
you
information,
then
you
know
you
allow
those
parties
to
draw
their
own
conclusions
and
unfortunately,
the
experience
of
the
department
and
the
committee
is
when
people
aren't
doing
as
requested
of
them.
We
don't
it's
very
hard
to
have
faith
that
they're
actually
going
to
carry
out
what
they
say
as
well.
We
don't
know,
but
you
know,
makes
it
difficult.
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So
that's
that's.
What's
going
on
here
as
far
as
that's
concerned,
and
I
think
what
you
could
have
done
is
go
back
in
touch
with
them
and
said
this
is
what
I
see
is
my
problem
and
I
think
the
department
would
have
said
do
what
you
can
because,
as
you
said,
ms
walker
was
in
one
of
those
buildings
and-
and
she
was
also
examining
the
external
external
elements,
and
then
you
know
you
do
what
you
can
and
then
people
could
see.
Oh
well
good
faith
here,
but
we
didn't
get
that.
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
part
of
your
situation
here
and
and
so
when,
if
we
pass
a
motion
to
enforce
the
order,
you
will
have
a
chance
to
fix
it
up
and
you
keep
in
touch
with
the
officer
and
or
the
mr
hazel,
and
they
will
guide
you
they're.
Not
they
just
want
to
see
it
get
done
too.
Okay,
that
makes
your
life
a
lot
easier
and
it
means
we
can
avoid
legal
aspects.
A
A
D
Thank
you
through
your
chair.
I
just
want
to
point
out
some
procedural
points.
With
our
property
standards
process
for
interior
based
complaints,
we
require
a
complaint
form
be
submitted
by
an
occupant
or
a
tenant
that
is
signed
and
validated,
and
then
to
support
us
following
up
on
occupant
complaints,
it
is
defined
within
the
property
standards
by
law
as
any
person
or
persons
over
the
age
of
18,
who
appears
to
be
in
possession
of
the
property.
D
A
E
A
City
doesn't
want
to
be,
you
know,
heavy-handed
or
anything.
They
just
want
the
work
to
get
done
so,
like
you
and
like
the
committee,
so
I
hope
that
satisfies
satisfactory
for
the
moment.
If
you
have
other
questions
you
can
call
mr
hazel
or
ms
walker
and
I'm
sure
they
can.
Let
you
know
okay,
okay,
so
you
know
you
know
immediately
what
you
need
to
do
right.
A
So
thank
you
and,
like
I
said,
we're
not
unsympathetic,
but
we
do
have
a
job
to
do,
as
does
the
department
so
item
eight
motions.
We
have
none
nine
notices
of
motion,
I
don't
if
any
and
other
business,
I
believe,
there's
none,
no
correspondence
the
date
and
time
of
the
next
meeting
is
december.
12Th
2020
at
12
p.m.
If
needed,
and
so
that
brings
us
to
item
13
of
german,
do
I
have
a
motion
to
germ
just
a
sec
one
sec.
I
saw
the
clerk's
thing
slashed.
B
So
I
will
mention
at
this
time
it
does
not
appear
that
there
will
be
a
december
meeting,
we're
a
few
weeks
away
from
the
deadline,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
docket.
As
of
yet,
as
I
previously
mentioned
at
the
start
of
the
meeting,
the
nominations
meeting
is
on
wednesday.
The
results
from
that
meeting
go
to
council
in
early
december
after
council
makes
your
decision
on
the
appointments.
I
will
let
the
public
members
know
whether
or
not
they're
remaining
on
the
committee
and
we'll
go
from
there.
Thank
you.