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From YouTube: Kingston, Ontario - Appeals Committee - May 16, 2022
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Appeals Committee meeting from May 16, 2022. For full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3FQsS7u
B
A
B
I
see
you,
I
see
francois
and
it's
raj
who's,
not
on
video.
Okay,
I'm
just
gonna
check
with
the
clerk
elizabeth.
Do
we
have
everyone
here.
C
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
Through
you,
just
a
note
to
the
participants.
As
we
go
through
some
of
the
procedural
matters,
your
cameras
might
be
turned
off.
That's
just
a
common
practice
for
us
at
this
time,
as
we
do
our
virtual
meeting
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
we
have
the
proper
committee
members
up
on
screen
at
the
time.
C
So
if,
if
the
host
does
turn
off
your
camera
or
asks
you
to
mute,
we
will
again
provide
you
with
those
permissions
when
it
is
time
for
for
that
participation
during
business,
just
as
a
note
to
our
participants,
so
I'm
adam
share
through
you,
we
do
have
quorum
currently
missing
our
counselor
hutchinson
and
counselor
mclaren.
C
We
do
have
from
staff
both
alan
benson
and
ryan
arkan
with
us
today,
as
well
as
ian
sullivan,
is
our
meeting
host
and
we
don't
have
any
members
of
the
public
say
for
the
appellants
and
the
representatives
who
are
with
us
at
this
time.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Madam
chair,
great.
B
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
appeals
committee
to
order
we
have
present
with
us
today
bob
knox
and
todd
storms,
and
I
am
hilary
willis
I
am
the
vice
chair
and
I'll
be
chairing
today.
We
have
regrets
from
councillor
mclaren
and
as
well
as
councillor
hutchinson,
who
may
join
us
in
progress
first,
I
need
we're
going
to
approve
the
agenda
if
I
could
have
a
motion
to
approve,
please
mr
knox
seconded
mr
storms,
all
in
favor
of
the
agenda.
B
Next.
I
would
like
to
confirm
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
held
december
20th
2021.
Could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes?
Mr
storms,
a
seconder
mr
knox,
all
in
favor
of
the
minutes
from
december.
Thank
you
approved
at
this
time.
Are
there
any
disclosures
of
pecuniary
interest
with
regard
to
the
agenda.
D
B
B
Any
questions
on
that
from
my
panelists.
No,
our
item,
seven,
a
item.
Two
is
seven:
four,
seven,
sorry,
two,
four
six,
seven
princess
street,
a
copy
of
the
notice
of
appeal
is
attached.
This
is
pertaining
to
a
site
that
will
be
a
comfort
inn
and
there's
also
a
domino's
pizza
on
it,
the
on
the
property.
B
So
you
have
a
package
of
drawings
that
you
received
from
the
clerk,
as
well
as
the
notice
of
appeal
and
a
letter
from
the
appellant,
and
so
if
we
can
move
forward
with
a
representative
from
the
city
to
talk
to
us
about
this
appeal,
please.
E
I
can
speak
to
that
good
afternoon.
Yes,
so
there
was
a
sign
permit
application
made
at
2467
princess
street
for
a
ground
sign
and
a
wall
sign
for
our
comfort
inn
during
the
review.
It
was
found
that
the
parcel
of
land
that
contains
the
comfort
inn
also
contains
other
commercial
businesses
on
the
property,
one
of
which
being
a
domino's
pizza.
D
Was
it
as
I
understand
it
so
and
I
I
know
we
got
an
update,
so
maybe
I've
got
the
wrong
distances,
but
as
I'm
reading
this
it
can
only
it
can
only
be
60
meters
apart
is
that
the
issue?
E
B
B
E
I'll
have
to
find
the
clause.
Pardon
me
so
clause
g1
packet,
four
states.
The
second
ground
sign
is
permitted
for
frontage
in
excess
of
91.4
meters.
Okay,.
B
B
F
E
E
B
B
Honest
so
I
guess
what
I
wanted
to
ask
is
there
did
all
the
other
conditions
of
this
proposed
sign
meet
the
requirements
of
the
bylaw.
E
Yes,
this
was
the
only
issue
at
hand.
Okay,.
B
Great
thank
you.
Do
my
colleagues
have
any
other
questions.
B
G
G
Okay,
all
right,
so
the
distance
just
a
question
historically,
the
hundred
is
it
meters
or
feet
between
the
sides.
This
is
an
eliminated
sign.
Is.
Is
this
a
concern
when
they're
closer
there's
a
visual
aspect
to
it
as
far
as
far
as
distraction
for
traffic.
E
I'm
not
sure
that
I
can
speak
to
the
intent
of
the
bylaw.
My
supervisor,
I
believe,
is
in
attendance,
mr
arkand.
He
he
may
be
able
to
answer
your
question
better
than
I
can.
F
Sorry
about
that,
yes,
the
the
distance
between
the
signs-
if
there
is
an
illumination
with
this
sign,
but
essentially
the
distance
between
them
is
to
limit
the
propagation
of
signs
along
princess
street.
B
Okay,
now
I
just
would
I
realize
I
didn't
mention
at
the
outset
that
the
appeals
committee
does
have
the
ability
to
grant
a
variance
that
is
within
our
powers
with
this
bylaws.
So
we
can
also
set
conduct
terms
and
conditions
to
that
variance.
Just
so
that
my
colleagues
are
aware,
if
there
are
no
further
questions
for
the
staff
I'll
move
on
to
our
repellent
okay,
all
right,
thank
you.
So
who's
is
mr
yee.
Are
you
going
to
be
speaking
or
mr
lucie.
A
Okay,
okay,
because
I
keep
spewing
on
me
automatically,
I
do
apologize
so
yes,
mr
e,
is
with
me.
I
will
do
some
of
the
speaking.
If
I
need
mr
yi,
it's
intervention,
I
will
ask
him
so
the
appeal
is
also
from
mr
raj:
raj
was
the
owner
of
the
hotel
built
a
brand
new
property,
beautiful
new
street
comfort
on
princeton
street,
as
you
guys
know
so
before
I
go
into
just
a
little
comment,
you
know.
Obviously
this
is
for
the
city
of
kingston.
It's
for
tourism.
A
I've
been
doing
signage
for
hospitality
for
over
27
years
and,
like
you
s
so
mentally
mentioned
before
you
guys
are
able
to
possibly
make
a
decision
for
the
variance
here.
I
will
not
go
any
further,
but
I'd
like
to
mention
that,
first
of
all,
yes,
it
is
illuminated
sign
it's
respecting
the
the
height
of
15
feet.
It's
respecting
the
square
footage
for
the
for
the
signage.
It's
going
to
help
mr
raj,
with
tourism,
finding
the
hotel,
when
you
need
to
look
for
it,
the
distance
between
the
two
signs.
A
I've
been
on
the
property
several
times
I
mean
it's
you're,
coming
down,
princeton
street.
It's
nice
to
know
that
there's
there's
an
hotel
coming
up
if
you're
looking
for
a
hotel
at
night,
so
that
slime
would
be
definitely
helpful.
I
think
it's
respecting
every
other
detail
now.
The
only
thing
I
was
wondering
is:
how
come
you
know
it's
the
same
lot
but
two
different
businesses.
A
So
I
guess
there
was
a
perimeter
construction
that
was
given
and
I
don't
know
if
at
that
time
there
was
actually
mention
of
oh
by
the
way,
we'll
give
you
a
construction
permit,
but
you
can't
get
signage
on
your
on
your
front
property.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
was
mentioned
early
on,
but
and
domino's
is
also
a
different
business.
There's
a
hotel
knows
it's.
You
know
pisa
food.
A
This
is
in
a
hotel
for
tourism,
as
I
mentioned
before,
and
if
you
look
across
the
street
now
you
might
mention
to
me
that
there
is
not
on
the
same
property
but
aw
petrol,
canada
signs
up
about
70
meters
in
distance
between
each
other
and
if
it
is,
if
it
is
to
make
sure
that
you
know
this
bottle
was
created
to
make
sure
there's
less
signage
and
across
the
street.
A
There's
a
lot
more
signage
than
than
on
the
side
where
the
hotel
is,
it
might
be
different
lots,
but
there
is
more
signage.
So
if
it's
for
pollution,
I
don't
know
if
it
actually,
both
sides
of
the
street
reflect
the
same
thing
regarding
illumination,
it
is
an
immediate
sign,
although
the
face
is
95
percent
opaque,
in
other
words,
the
blue
at
night,
almost
doesn't
lit,
uses
the
sea
and
the
comfort
that
you'll
see
there's
only
five
percent
of
light
transpassivity
to
the
face
at
night.
A
So
it's
not
going
to
be
a
destruction
or
a
pollution
of
light
at
all.
So
these
are
the
things
that
that
we
I
wanted
to
bring
up
and
comment
on,
like
I
said
before,
I
think
mr
raj
built
a
beautiful
property
and
great
for
kingston,
and
I
think
it
would
just
help
people
to
be
able
to
find
the
hotel
with
that
signage.
The
provision
has
been
made
for
electrical
power,
the
concrete
base.
A
So
that's
what
I
have
to
say
regarding
distances,
we
did
provide
some
updated
drawings
that
we
feel
are
accurate
and
showing
the
distances
between
the
two
signs,
and
we
would
like
for
for.
B
I'm
seeing
none-
I
am
just
wondering-
were
the
two
businesses
that
I
know
the
comfort
in
is
a
brand
new
building
was
the
other
part
build.
The
domino's
pizza
was
that
built
earlier.
Is
that
why
there's
already
an
existing
sign
there,
it's
already
been
operating
for
a
while.
A
I
would
say
no,
absolutely
raj
is
there,
but
I
would
say
no
because
there's
no
room
for
more
businesses,
because
right
next
to
it,
you
have
you
all
right,
which
is
the
next
down
the
road
with.
They
also
have
a
sign
there.
Okay,.
B
Knowing
that
you
were
working
with
a
hundred
just
under
100
meter
frontage
on
this
property,
did
you
give
any
consideration
to
doing?
One
combination
sign.
A
Well,
that
was
thought
for
me
to
answer.
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
a
possibility,
because
then
you're,
the
entrances
from
the
the
dominoes
doesn't
lead
you
into
the
comfort
and
vice
versa,
either.
So
there's.
Actually
it's
raised
a
little
bit
and
you
you
know
there
is
a
parking
area,
but
then
you
have
to
walk
down
so
by
car.
You
can't
it's
not.
You
know
the
proper
entrance,
so
this
would
give
better.
B
I'm
just
wondering
within
the
application
process
from
the
city.
If
there
was
any
suggestion
about
how
the
owner
could
come
within
the
bylaw.
B
Sorry,
just
wanting
ryan,
mr
arcane,
could
you
maybe
has
the
city
suggested
to
the
owner
what
they
could
do
to
come
within
the
bylaw?
Has
there
been
any
discussion
or.
F
Yes,
the
discussions
that
were
had
was
was
just
what
you
had
asked
about:
a
combination
sign
so
that
there
was
a
a
sign
on
the
property
that
went.
How
is
you
know
the
comfort
in
as
well
as
the
two
additional
businesses?
F
The
site
plan
was
approved
back
in
2018,
the
dominoes
and
the
other
building
was
constructed
approximately
around
that
time
and
the
the
hotel
started
construction
approximately
around
that
time,
as
as
well
too,
although
the
the
hotel
is
now
just
nearing
completion,
so,
yes,
the
the
sign
was,
has
been
in
place.
The
design
for
the
dominoes
and
the
other
business
has
been
replaced
so
long
before
this
construction.
Now.
F
That's
correct:
there
are
two
businesses
in
that
that
building
it's.
I
believe
it's
a
please
correct
me,
but
it
is
some
type
of
business,
personal
services.
B
Okay
and
dominoes
okay,
so
there
is
another.
There
are
two
business
units
in
that
second
building
correct:
okay,.
D
B
Okay,
with
everything
that
we
have
learned,
the
panelists
have
any
further
comments
or
questions.
D
I
I
don't
have
any
questions,
I
don't.
I
don't
actually
have
an
issue
with
with
what
they're
proposing
I
know
where
I
know
where
the
sites
are.
I
drove
by
them
the
other
night,
and
I
I
think
that
it's
I
I
don't
have
any
problem,
granting
the
exemption
that's
being
requested,
but
I'm
I'm
willing
to
hear
from
what
the
other
panelists
have
to
say.
B
B
Okay,
so
we
would
say
that,
based
on
the
information
yep,
sorry
bob
go
ahead.
A
B
B
B
Ground,
yes,
okay,
yeah,
okay,
so
our
motion
is
that
the
the
requested
variants,
the
requested
exemption
to
the
bylaw-
will
be
granted
as
proposed
as
presented
by
the
appellants,
with
the
only
condition
being
that
no
additional
signs
will
be
added
ground
signs
will
be
added
to
the
site.
Can
you
still
hear
me.
G
B
Okay,
sorry,
I
just
had
a
little
blip
on
my
computer.
I'm
just
gonna
ask
the
clerk.
Does
that
sound
adequate
to
you.
C
B
C
Vice
chair,
I
think
that
that
is
fine.
I
I
had
the
same
thing
that
the
minor
variants
be
granted
in
accordance
with
the
plans
presented
by
the
appellant,
with
the
exception
that
no
additional
ground
signs
will
be
permitted
in
the
in
the
area
or
on
the
property
that.
B
Sounds
wonderful,
so
can
we
have
someone
to
move
that
motion,
mr
storms,
someone
to
second
that
motion,
mr
knox,
all
in
favor.
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
moving
along
in
our
agenda.
We
have
no
property
updates
item
7b,
we
have
no
motions,
we
have
no
notices
of
motion.
B
C
Madame
vice
chair,
it
is
possible
that
we
might
have
business
for
for
that
date.
I
will
confirm
shortly.
B
Okay,
is
there
anything
else
you
require
of
us?
No
okay,
great,
thank
you
to
mr
benson
and
mr
arcan
for
joining
us,
and
if
I
can
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
mr
storms,
a
seconder,
mr
knox.