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Arts Advisory Committee meeting from November 10, 2021. For full agenda details visit https://bit.ly/3ozcaRZ
B
Welcome
to
this
morning's
arts
advisory
committee
meeting,
we
do
have
the
live
stream
up
and
running
and
we
do
have
quorum
now.
Everyone
came
at
once.
Madame
vice
chair.
I
am
just
going
to
quickly
run
through
and
do
an
introduction
of
who's
on
the
call
with
us
today.
B
So
again
I
confirm
we
do
have
quorum
and
it
looks
like
all
committee
members
are
present.
At
the
moment.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
if
I
could
have
someone
move
approval
of
the
agenda,
please
counselor,
neil
and
tim,
all
those
in
favor
no
additions
changes.
Okay
and
confirmation
of
minutes
of
the
meeting
september
23rd
need
a
mover
in
secondary,
please
tim
and
second.
A
I
need
a
seconder
mark.
Do
you
want
it
thanks?
Okay,
any
addition,
any
changes,
submissions
everything
was
good.
Okay
motion
to
approve
the
minutes,
please
or
sorry
vote
to
approve
the
minutes.
Please
good!
A
C
Thanks
liz
yeah,
I
mean
felix,
can
can
kick
us
off
felix.
Is
the
grants
coordinator
for
the
kingston
arts
council,
familiar
to
mostly
everyone
on
this
committee
and
the
arts
council
has
gone
through
their
regular
annual
review
process
of
the
city
of
kingston
arts
fund
can't
believe
it's
yet
another
year.
So
felix
will
just
take
this
committee
through
some
of
the
changes
that
have
been
proposed
to
the
plan
for
administration.
B
D
I
have
the
floor
to
speak.
Yes,
please,
okay,
great
I'll,
go
ahead!
D
Thank
you
danica
for
that
introduction,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
2022
plan
for
administration
of
arts
funding
for
the
corporation
of
the
city
of
kingston,
which
I
am
now
going
to
refer
only
as
the
plan
for
advan,
as
danica
said,
I'm
felix.
Most
of
you
have
met
me
many
times
already,
I'm
the
grants
coordinator
for
the
kingston
arts
council
and
this
year
the
kac
is
completing
its
annual
review
of
the
city
of
kingston
arts
fund
or
ccaf.
D
The
plan
for
admin
is
the
foundation
of
this
program
and
per
our
service
level
agreement
with
the
city.
Every
year
we
meet
with
jurors
representatives
from
arts
organizations
and
collectives
community
members,
artists
and
city
kingston
staff
to
review
the
plan
for
admin
and
discuss
potential
revisions.
D
Based
on
this
review
and
our
own
insights
as
administrators
of
this
program,
we
developed
the
draft
plan
for
admin
which
is
then
presented
to
and
approved
by
our
board
of
directors,
the
arts,
advisory
committee,
the
arts,
recreation
community
policies,
committee
and
kingston
city
council.
So
today
I
am
presenting
the
draft
2022
plan
for
admin
for
your
consideration
and
approval.
D
First,
I
would
like
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
context
about
this
year's
review
and
the
proposed
changes,
as
the
aac
has
heard
in
the
past,
in
2020,
we
and
the
city
both
recognized
the
unprecedented
impact
of
covet
19,
and
we
had
an
expanded
consultation
process
last
year.
So
the
lead
up
to
the
2021
ccaf
was
a
little
bit
unusual.
D
We
had
round
tables,
we
did
a
public
survey
and
we
additionally
consulted
with
the
committees.
The
outcome
of
that
process
led
to
a
number
of
significant
changes
for
the
2021
plan
for
admin
which
were
implemented
for
2021
operating
and
project
grants
which
proceeded
on
schedule
as
they
are
intended
to.
D
D
As
a
result
of
that
work
done
to
date,
we
have
developed
the
draft
plan
which
was
submitted
to
you
with
the
agenda
for
this
meeting
and
all
of
the
changes
to
the
document
are
highlighted.
This
draft
has
already
been
approved
by
the
ksu's
board
of
director,
with
no
revision
on
the
21st
of
october
2021.
D
D
This
clarifies
that
receiving
a
resiliency
or
adapt
grant
in
2021
does
not
impact
eligibility
for
2022
operating
or
project
grants.
So,
for
example,
a
collective
that
had
applied
in
2021
to
the
separate
adapt
program
can
still
apply
for
a
new
project
in
2022
project.
Grants
have
also
revised
the
purpose
of
the
project
program
that
appears
in
c2a.
D
D
D
They
must
meet
the
same
insurance
and
reporting
requirements,
and
their
proposed
projects
must
meet
the
criteria
described
in
c2a.
So
all
project
applications
must
meet
that
intended
project
description
in
accordance
with
this
change,
we've
also
updated
the
definition
of
a
professional
artist
which
appears
in
the
glossary
appendix
c.
D
This
definition
has
already
been
used
in
the
program
and
we
are
formalizing
it
for
use
in
operating
and
project
grants.
D
D
A
Thank
you
felix
for
that
comprehensive
review.
There
were
quite
a
few
changes
and
thanks
for
the
yellow,
highlighter,
so
I'd
like
to
throw
it
open
to
the
committee
for
questions
or
comments,
since
we
do
need
to
do
a
thorough
analysis
in
this
group
so
that
hopefully
we
can
pass
it
on
today
to
the
arts
and
recreation
committee.
So
are
there
questions
for
felix?
A
I
have
a
couple.
One
is
now
that
it's
going
to
be
thrown
open
to
so
many
more.
How
is
the
capacity
for
the
kingston
arts
council
in
terms
of
staffing?
I
know
you
must
have
had
quite
the
year
last
year.
How
are
you
doing
in
terms
of
being
able
to
handle
this
big
increase.
D
We're
we're
doing
well.
We
are
very
excited
about
the
expansion
of
the
program.
We
think
that
it's
making
a
really
significant
impact
on
the
arts
community,
and
so
we're
really
happy
to
see
this
kind
of
growth
for
ccaf,
especially
during
this
really
difficult
unusual
time.
D
D
We
have
had
some
experience
now
with
running
the
adapt
program,
adapt
accepted
applications
from
individual
artists,
collectives
and
incorporated
nonprofits,
so
it
was
structured
similarly
to
the
system
that
will
be
used
for
projects
in
2022
and
we
actually
received
an
almost
identical
number
of
applications
to
adapt
that
we
normally
would
in
a
typical
project
year.
So
we're
with
that
indication,
not
anticipating
a
huge
increase.
D
A
That's
good
my
other
comment.
While
I
was
looking
through
the
the
adapt
and
the
other
grants
were,
a
thousand
dollars
was
the
maximum.
I
understand,
and
now
the
project
grants
it's
going
to
be
a
5
000
minimum.
D
So
the
thousand
dollars
was
for
resiliency,
so
that
program
was
relief.
Funding
for
individual
artists
to
allow
them
to
continue
working.
The
adapt
program
had
a
minimum
of
four
and
a
maximum
of
ten
yeah.
It
is
comparable
to
what
we
would
see
in
the
project
program.
Project
has
a
minimum
of
5
maximum
of
15,
but
average
grant
size
is
between
typically
between
8
and
12
in
that
program.
D
So
we
think
that
again,
with
the
experience
of
running
adapt
that
we
have
a
really
solid
foundation
and
understanding
of
of
what
that
application
from
an
individual
would
look
like.
A
E
Hi
hi,
can
you
hear
me
all
right,
liz
and
felix?
Okay,
sorry,
I'm
I'm
actually
doing
the
residency
at
the
grand
that
was
opened
up
by
danica
and
colin
and
a
big.
Thank
you
for
that
program.
It's
incredible,
but
felix,
I'm
sorry.
I
missed
the
first
part
of
your
presentation.
I
looked
over
your
report
and
it
was
excellent.
The
changes
are
from
my
understanding.
You've
done
a
number
of
things
that
will
make
it
much
easier
for
people
to
access
these
grants.
The
way
to
go
you
and
the
rest
of
the
arts
council.
E
I
wanted
to
bring
up
two
equity
points.
Just
for
consideration
and
debate.
One
is
the
five
million
dollar
liability
insurance.
My
understanding
is
that
can
be
a
pretty
significant
barrier,
especially
for
people
who
aren't
as
privileged
as
I
am
or
the
organizations
that
I
you
know.
I
work
with
the
skeleton
and
park
arts
festival.
E
They've
got
their
five
million,
so
I
had
a
suggestion,
which
was
what,
if
we
create
two
categories
of
applicants,
one
is
you
can
tick
a
box
if
you've
got
your
five
million
professional
indemnity
insurance
and
you
can
pick
a
box
if
you
don't
and
if
you
don't,
then
I
would
be
happy
to
work
with
a
city
solicitor
to
create,
what's
called
indemnification
documents
which
would
save
the
city
in
case
there
was
any
liability.
I
don't
know
what
do
you
guys?
Think
of
that
first.
E
This
is
my
first
of
two
equity-based
ideas,
but
this
one
would
deal
with
the
the
requirement
to
have
the
five
million
liability
insurance,
which
my
husband
greg
assures
me
is
a
is
a
major
obstacle
for
some
groups.
D
I
mean
I
will
I
can
quickly
answer
and
then
I
think
danica
probably
wants
to
speak
to
the
city's
requirements
here
in
terms
of
insurance,
just
to
review
some
of
the
changes
that
I
think
were
kind
of
alluded
to
was
that
last
year
we
did
change
the
insurance
requirements
so
that
recipients
have
to
provide
proof
or
a
quote
for
their
insurance,
so
they
don't
have
to
pay
up
front
for
the
insurance
policy
before
the
funds
are
released,
which
was
a
barrier
that
we
had
identified
in
the
past
and
that
was
removed
for
the
2021
cycle
and
will
continue
for
2022..
D
So
that
is
still
the
case
that
we
will
accept
either
a
quote
for
or
proof
of,
the
insurance
policy.
That
being
said,
the
insurance
policy
is
still
required.
It's
not
a
removal
of
that
requirement,
which
I
think
is
what
is
is
being
tabled
at
this
point
danica.
Do
you
want
to
have
any
comment
on
that.
C
Thanks
felix
and
thanks
annie
for
the
question
and
the
sort
of
the
sort
of
the
suggestion
about
indemnification
versus
insurance,
and
I
I
what
I
can
do
at
this
point.
You
know
the
reality
is
is
that
the
insurance
has
been
a
requirement
of
the
city
this
program,
since
it
was
created.
C
As
felix
said,
the
program
has
evolved
to
remove
some
of
the
barriers
around
insurance
and
something
else
that
felix
and
the
arts
council
do
offer
through
ccap
is
that
sponsor
organizations
can
also
cover
applicants
in
terms
of
their
insurance,
which
you
know
many
do
just
sort
of
working
with
partner
organizations
to
help
cover
those
costs.
C
But
what
I
can
offer
at
this
point
is
is
that
I
can
reach
out
to
our
manager
of
insurance
and
risk
and
have
this
conversation
about
about
indemnity
versus
insurance
and
where
the
city
lies
on
that,
as
I
do
not
have
an
answer
for
this
committee
in
terms
of
what
are
the
challenges
around
indemnification
in
regards
to
this
program.
Specifically,
so
it's
something
I
can
offer
to
do
and
then
come
back
to
this
committee
and
also
work
with
the
arts
council
to
see.
C
If
there's
any
changes
around
this,
that
could
be
implemented
through
the
guidelines
for
this
program
in
2022
yeah
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
because
I
think
that's
really
where
I'm
at
in
terms
of
next
steps
on
this
annie
and
can
certainly
report
back
to
this
group.
E
Sure-
and
you
can't
see
me,
but
I'm
nodding
at
everything,
you're
saying
and
danica-
I've
worked
for
some
community
garden
groups,
which
also
has
an
insurance
requirement
and
they've
been
able
to
negotiate
no
insurance
requirement
with
indemnification
documents.
So
just
that's
a
bit
of
a
precedent
that
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
be
part.
Part
of.
Do
you
mind
if
I
bring
up
another
equity.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
can
answer
anecdotally.
I
haven't
done
a
formal
survey
of
the
costs
for
the
for
the
past
five
years,
etc.
Anecdotally,
typical
insurance
costs,
are
in
the
hundreds
of
dollars.
A
very
low
insurance
cost,
for
example,
would
be
three
hundred
dollars.
D
A
high
insurance
cost
would
be
approaching
a
thousand
dollars,
but
part
of
the
issue
is
that
this
program
funds
a
really
wide
variety
of
projects
with
very
different
scope,
so
some
projects
have
quite
complex
insurance
policies
because
they're
dealing
with
live
performance,
circus,
fire
dancers,
they're,
even
large
format,
concerts
that
serve
alcohol
have
very
different
insurance
requirements.
D
So
there
is
a
pretty
significant
range
in
terms
of
the
cost,
depending
on
the
type
of
policy
that's
required,
but
that
I
would
say,
is
a
typical
ballpark
figure
for
what
the
upfront
cost
is,
and
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
shifted
away
from
requiring
that
upfront
cost
before
the
release
of
funds.
E
Sure-
and
I
think
this
is
an
easy
one,
so
felix
I'm
sorry
if
you
feel
like
I'm
giving
you
the
gears
here,
but
the
partnering
option,
obviously
for
an
a
not
incorporated
group
to
partner
with
an
incorporated
not-for-profit
group
is
such
a
strength
of
the
program
and
it's
been
such
a
strength
historically,
something
that
has
been
coming
to
my
attention
through
some
equity
work.
E
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
being
part
of
is
that
people
who
are
less
privileged
tend
to
be
less
networked,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
a
group
who
maybe
wasn't
as
networked
as
say
like
myself
or
kpp
or
you
know
any
of
the
groups
that
we
work
with,
could
have
the
option
of
calling
up
the
arts,
council
and
saying
hi.
I'm
a
group,
I
don't
know
any
partner
organizations,
I'm
you
know,
I'm
young
or
I'm
new
to
the
city.
D
So
I
mean
I
think
this
is
honestly
more
of
a
communications
issue,
because
we
do
do
that,
so
I
would
say
it's
not
being
promoted
or
communicated
adequately,
but
it
is
something
that
does
happen
any
time
I
have
a
meeting
with
a
new
artist,
regardless
of
their
experience
level,
but
obviously,
particularly
if
they're
emerging
or
a
newly
formed
collective.
I
typically
suggest
meeting
one-on-one
with
me.
I
go
through
the
program.
I
talk
about
their
different
application
options.
I
discuss
sponsorship
with
them.
D
I
usually
ask
them
if
they
have
a
sponsor
in
mind,
if
there's
a
non-profit
they've
worked
with
before
that
they're
familiar
with,
if
they
say
no,
there
are
a
number
of
non-profits
in
our
network
that
I
have
discussed
sponsorship
with
it's
a
conversation
that
I
have
had
with
quite
a
few
organizations
that
have
received
funding
from
us
in
the
past.
D
So
I
usually
have,
in
my
mind,
a
list
of
potential
candidates
that
might
be
interested
in
doing
that
type
of
work,
and
so
that
introduction
can
be
facilitated
by
the
kingston
arts
council.
D
I
think
there
is
room
for
improvement
in
that
as
well.
In
terms
of
from
that
introduction
point
forward,
the
sponsor
and
the
applicant
would
have
to
negotiate
that
relationship
on
their
own,
so
for
particularly,
I
think
this
equity
perspective
addressing
those
type
of
issues.
I
do
understand
that
that
still
presents
a
barrier
if
you
have
never
worked
with
a
large
nonprofit
before
and
you're,
not
sure
what
a
typical
sponsorship
or
mentorship
relationship
should
look
like.
D
E
G
Just
curious-
and
this
is
probably
a
question
brand-
a
letter
of
indemnification.
How
does
that
operate
and-
and
the
reason
I
ask,
is
that
the
city
of
kingston,
unless
they
change
their
policy?
In
fact,
we
are
self-insured.
G
We
insure
ourselves
on
virtually
everything,
not
sure
if
we've
insured
ourselves
on
the
bridge,
for
instance,
but
all
reasonable
issues
within
the
city
we
self,
we
we
cover
our
own
insurance
so
annie.
How
does
how
does
indemnification
work.
E
Oh
sure
so
say
danica
and
I
are
walking
along
the
road
together
and
we're
we're
holding
a
sign,
that's
on
a
pole
and
we're
both
holding
one
end.
Okay,
and
so
I
walk
into
a
little
old
lady
and
she
falls
over
and
she
breaks
her
hip.
E
E
So
indemnification
is
a
way
where
danica
and
I
could
write
letters
to
each
other
saying:
hey,
look!
If
we
get
sowed
because
we're
walking
down
the
street
holding
this
poll,
I'm
not
going
to
pay
any
of
your
costs
and
you're
not
going
to
pay
any
of
my
costs,
and
so
in
the
context
of
the
city
and
partner
group.
E
It
would
be
the
partner
group
again,
let's
pretend
it's
me
and
danica
as
our
group.
Let's
pretend
we
signed
a
letter
of
indemnification
with
the
city
and
we're
carrying
a
pole,
that's
owned
by
the
city,
and
the
pole
is
what
hits
the
little
old
lady.
So
the
little
old
lady
is
also
going
to
sue
the
city
but
danica,
and
I
have
these
indemnification
letters
with
the
city
so
anything
that
danica
and
I
did
that's
our
fault-
the
city
doesn't
pay
for.
So
unless
the
city
made
a
faulty
poll
that
somehow
caused
injury.
E
Otherwise
the
injury
is
our
fault,
so
indemnification
is
just
a
way
to
protect
parties
who
are
partnering
from
paying
for
one
another's
liabilities
or
harm.
Does
that
make
sense?
Am
I
making
sense
so
what
it?
What
it
does
for,
like
a
community
garden
group,
for
example,
the
ones
I've
worked
for,
is
they
say,
look
we'll
take
accountability.
If
someone
steps
on
a
rake
and
injures
themselves,
the
city
doesn't
have
to
pay.
E
If
someone
gets
harmed
from
that
and
it's
a
way
that
they
can
then
not
have
insurance,
because
they're
saying
we'll
pay
and
I
think
the
reality
jim
of
the
city,
meaning
it's
self-insured,
meaning
the
city
doesn't
actually
have
insurance
right.
You
guys
just
pay
things
out
and
I
think
the
reality
of
many
community
garden
groups
or
artists
is
they
don't
actually
have
insurance,
they
would
just
have
to
pay
for
it
it.
You
know,
there's
other
issues
there.
G
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
more
questions,
I'll
just.
H
I
just
have
a
question
and
it's
actually
about
one
of
the
non-highlighted
bits
just
for
a
clarification
in
in
in
light
of
the
aftermath
of
the
adapt
grants.
I
know
that
organizations
who
were
recipients
of
adapt
grants
can
apply
for
either
operational
or
project
grants,
but
it
does
continue
to
be
the
case
that
organizations
receiving
operation
operating
grants
are
not
eligible
for
project
grants
in
the
same
year.
H
D
Yes,
that's
exactly
correct,
so
an
adapt
grant
would
allow
you
to
apply
for
operating
if
you're
an
operating
recipient.
It
won't
affect
that
application,
but
that
clause
is
in
there
because
typically,
most
frequent
situation
in
the
past
10
years
has
been
that
new
operating
applicants
are
already
project
recipients.
D
So
often
when
they're
trying
to
move
into
the
operating
stream
out
of
project
they
will
apply
to
both
operating
is
always
adjudicated
first.
So
if
you
are
successful
in
receiving
that
operating
grant,
your
project
grant
is
discarded
because
you
can't
receive
both
in
the
same
year.
If
you
do
not
receive
the
operating
grant,
your
project
grant
is
adjudicated
as
it
would
have
otherwise
been
as
if
you
never
applied
to
operating,
so
that
allows
them
that
flexibility
to
apply
to
both
and
not
have
to
essentially
put
all
their
chips
on
one
application.
D
That's
really
the
purpose
of
it
in
the
reverse
could
be
true,
I
suppose,
if
you
no,
it
couldn't,
because
we
no,
if
you
wouldn't
envision
someone
moving
out
of
operating
into
projects,
so
they
would
have
to
withdraw
from
operating.
That
would
be
a
different
process.
So
that
is
it's
exactly
its
intention
great
thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
questions
comments
because
we
will
be
bringing
oh
jim
just.
G
Quickly,
I
want
to
thank
danica
and
felix
for
adding
that
provision
to
recognize
professional
artists.
My
ex-wife
is
a
professional
musician
and
a
children's
author,
and
I
was
a
patron
of
the
arts
because
she
never
made
very
much
money
in
either.
F
G
Those
things
if
you,
if
you're
the
second
oboe
in
the
symphony,
you're
a
professional
but
you're,
probably
below
the
poverty
line.
So
this
recognizes-
and
I
doubt
if
drake
or
springsteen
will
ever
apply
for
a
kingston
arts
grant.
But
the
reality
is
that
we
can
recognize
good
projects
from
from
professional
and
I'll
put
that
that
in
quotation
marks,
who
are
can
really
really
use
that
assistance.
A
Thank
you
jim.
I
think
we
all
agree
on
that
point
now
to
the
business
we
need
to
decide
if
we're
going
to
accept
the
king's
merits
council
plan
for
the
administration
of
the
funding,
so
I
would
need
a
mover
and
a
seconder
for
this.
Please
move
by
councillor
neal
seconded
by
tim
forte.
A
Our
next
item
is
the
mayor's
arts
award
nomination
working
group
report,
which
was
a
very
thorough
report,
with
mention
of
all
the
the
meetings
that
have
gone
on
tim.
I
think
you're,
the
chair,
do
you
have
any
comments
or
danny.
F
Go
ahead.
I'd
just
like
to
say
again,
as
I
said,
that
the
group
I
had
over
and
over
that
it
was
exactly
how
you'd,
like
any
committee
or
any
group
to
work.
It
was
very
little
I'm
working
with
the
other
people
who
had
other
perspectives,
but
it
was
all
incredibly
generous
and
thoughtful
and
it
was
a
great
experience.
This
does
not
mean
I
want
to
continue
volunteering
for.
F
But
that
was
a
real,
real
pleasure
and
if
the
rest
is
in
the
report,
but
I
I
was
very
pleased
with
how
it
turned
out-
I
think
there's
a
good
balance
and.
A
C
Yes,
thanks
liz,
and
first
I
want
to
thank
tim
and
the
rest
of
the
members
of
this
nominations.
Working
group
we
say
it
every
year,
but
it
is
a
very
challenging
working
group
to
be
a
part
of.
There
are
so
many
potential
nominees
for
this
program.
So
a
big
thank
you
for
this
working
group
for
all
the
work
over
the
summer
and
it's
a
very
exciting
list
of
recipients
for
the
2021
program.
C
The
event
is
going
to
be
a
hybrid
event,
so
we
are
going
to
have
a
limited
in-person
audience
this
year.
Last
year
we
went
full
virtual
and
obviously,
in
the
past,
we've
met
together
in
memorial
hall
at
city
hall,
but
this
year
we're
going
to
have
a
very
small
audience
sort
of
invitation
only
and
will
include
the
recipients
of
the
the
program
and
the
members
of
the
nominations.
C
Working
group,
as
well
as
sort
of
some
city
staff
and
the
mayor
of
kingston,
will
be
there
and
the
event
will
then
be
live
streamed
out
to
the
public,
and
so
that
will
be
the
access
point
for
everyone
this
year,
just
in
recognition
of
the
continued
challenges
we're
facing
here
in
kingston
with
the
pandemic
and
and
looking
to
explore
this
hybrid
model
this
year.
So
the
event
is
going
to
be
held
monday
december,
the
6th
at
7
pm
and
we're
going
to
be
at
the
tet
center
this
year.
C
So
brienne
we're
coming
out
to
see
you,
you
know
really
just
wanting
to
be
in
a
be
in
an
art
space
this
year,
obviously,
and
in
a
sort
of
a
smaller
space,
that's
better
suited
to
our
capacity
numbers.
So
we
hope
that
everyone
can
tune
in
and
I
will
be
sure
to
share
the
event
link
with
everybody
on
this
committee.
A
Good,
thank
you
very
much
and
it'll
be
exciting
to
find
out
again
this
year,
who
won.
We
have
one
other
report,
the
art
in
public
places.
Taylor.
Do
you
have
some
comments
for
us.
A
I
Hi
everyone
good
to
see
you
too,
it's
good
to
see
everybody
yeah.
So
we
have
a
brief
art
and
public
places
review
for
you.
So.
I
We
have
formed
as
a
new
group
for
our
next
phase
of
the
oh
sorry,
I'm
getting
a
notification
here.
Can
you
guys
all
see
me?
I
Yes,
okay,
great
so
yeah
we've,
we've
danica
and
I
have
reviewed
the
terms
of
reference
for
the
art
and
public
places
working
group
and
built
a
new
group
based
on
those
terms
of
reference
with
various
community
members.
So,
as
you
can
see
in
the
attached
minutes,
our
group,
our
newly
formed
group,
is
quite
robust
and
we've
got
a
bunch
of
new
members
to
represent
various
stakeholder
groups
for
public
art
within
the
city
of
kingston,
including
artists,
community
members,
arts,
workers
and
business
representatives
as
well.
I
Yeah
we're
excited
to
get
started.
Our
next
meeting
is
on
november
15th.
We've
got
a
new
work
plan,
ready
to
go
and
that's
it
for
yeah.
That's
the
update,
we're
we're
excited
to
get
into
gear
and
I'll
have
more
for
you
at
our
next
ac
meeting,
but
yeah
so
era.
G
I
J
A
Great
thanks-
and
might
I
say
I'm
sure
every
other
people
are
getting
comments
pretty
regularly
about
the
public
art
that's
appearing
in
kingston
and
that
they
really
appreciate
it.
We
go
to
the
spirit,
walk
all
the
time
and
it's
just
filled
in
beautifully
with
the
plants
and
that
the
sculpture
in
victoria
park
survived
okay,
as
it's
such
a
robust
piece
of
art.
I
remember
when
I
saw
it.
I
went
holy,
that's
really
built
and
then
I
realized
good.
I
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
it's
a
very
exciting
time,
and
then
we
have
the
wilds
of
kingston
going
in
the
ground
for
the
end
of
this
month
as
well.
So
we'll
have
lots
of
media
notices
about
that
once
that's
installed
at
the
corner
of
princess
and
division
and
then
yeah
danica
and
I
are
excited
to
get
into
our
next
public
art
master
plan
and
planning
for
2022
forward
great.
A
I
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
duck
out
then
so,
thank
you.
Everybody
have
a
great
afternoon
and
era
I'll
follow
up
with
you
right
now.
Okay,.
A
We
now
have
we've
reached
the
end
of
our
agenda.
There
are
no
motions,
no
notices
of
motion
any
other
business,
and
the
next
meeting
will
be
at
the
call
of
of
staff.
I
believe,
because
we've
done
our
major
work,
the
arts
fund
can
move
on.
A
Okay.
Thank
you.
Everyone
motion
to
adjourn
jim
and
dean
and
owen
gary
there
we
go.
Thank
you.
Bye,
bye,.