►
From YouTube: Arts Advisory Committee - June 11, 2020
Description
City of Kingston Arts Advisory Committee meeting held June 11, 2020. For full agenda details please visit https://bit.ly/3ci7iMq
C
So,
as
you
all
know,
I'm
not
a
particularly
experienced
chair
and
I'm,
also
not
that
great
on
zoom,
if
I
miss
your
hand
or
anything
like
that,
let
James
know,
and
he
can
text
me
or
I,
don't
know,
do
something.
Flamboyant
I'll
see
what
you're
doing.
So,
let's
call
this
meeting
to
order.
Do
we
vote
on
that?
Can
we
just
call.
C
Okay,
come
to
order.
Let's
approve
the
last
the
agenda.
Oh
everybody
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
agenda.
Mariah
Horner's
been
added
as
a
delegation,
and
this
is
because
Tricia
is
here
to
update
us
on
what
is
happening
with
the
economic
reopening
plan
of
the
city
and
mariah
has
also
been
doing
some
work
in
the
performing
arts
already
at
obviously
Trish's
institutional
mirai's
at
a
much
more
grassroots
level
and
I.
Think
they're.
Both
gonna
offer
terrific
perspectives
on
how
we
can
keep
moving
forward
despite
the
limitations
of
coated.
C
C
C
C
B
B
E
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
for
inviting
me
and,
as
you
know,
I'm
on
the
task
force
for
the
Kingston
economic
recovery
and
it's
a
very
wonderful
committee
and
representing
all
sectors,
including
the
nonprofit
restaurants.
Hotels,
on
small
business
and,
what's
really
coming
to
light,
is
in
our
ecosystem.
E
How
we're
very
codependent,
and
so
what
I'd
like
to
suggest,
is
to
have
some
volunteers
on,
because
I'd
like
us
to
actually
do
a
cultural,
ed
regeneration,
integrated
with
other
sectors,
but
to
start
with
to
form
a
subcommittee
on
the
arts
and
to
have
some
really
great
representation
from
the
arts.
So
I
don't
know
in
terms
of
the
process
of
this
meeting.
E
If
people
want
to
volunteer
to
be
on
that
subcommittee
so
that
we
can
actually
make
a
proposal
on
to
the
committee
a
formal
proposal
to
the
Committee
on
the
arts,
that
would
be
great
and
what
I
think
would
be
ideal.
Is
it
with
the
cultural
sector
that
we
come
up
with
a
shared
vision
and
strategy
and
action
plan
for
the
kovat
and
postcode
age
era,
and
just
I'm
really.
E
Never
thought
I'd
talk
about
like
an
economist,
but
but
right
now,
I
know
in
my
own
job,
when
I'm
really
focused
on
is
creating
employment
for
our
distant
arts
workers,
and
so
that's
why
we
created
the
digital
concert
hall
and
the
live
on
online
concerts
that
we're
actually
employing
artists,
and
if
each
of
us
together
is
trying
to
give
artists
work,
that's
gonna
help.
Artists
get
through
this
period
and
the
artists
have
been
really
head,
as
everybody
knows,
because
it's
a
gig
economy
and
our
whole
business
model
is
based
on
crowds
and
so
on.
E
In
Kingston,
Kingston
has
lost
6,000
jobs
because
we
do
have
a
service
economy
and
it's
one
of
the
hardest
cities
hit,
because
of
the
way
that
our
economy
is
structured,
so
that
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
create
employment
and
for
artists
and
arts
workers
and
I'm,
also
in
instead
of
being
on
the
island
of
culture?
What
can
we
do
in
terms
of
the
integration
with
other
sectors,
whether
it's
a
nonprofit
sector
or
in
our
businesses,
because
of
our
economic
impact?
That's
a
three
or
four
times
the
investment.
E
How
do
we
work
with
the
restaurant
and
accommodation
sector
so
that
we
are
having
a
collaborative
regeneration
and
I
find?
The
irony
of
the
isolation
period
has
been
the
number
of
collaborations
and
the
goodwill
that's
happened.
It's
just
that,
so
many
great
collaborations
are
happening.
So
how
could
the
committee
come
up
with
a
plan
that
enables
people
to
collaborate
and
sometimes
unlikely
bedfellows
on
collaborating
but
I?
Think
getting
that
committee
together
and
doing
a
very
imaginative
report
would
really
be
great.
E
The
other
thing
we
need
from
nan
in
informing
this
committee
is
what
we
want
the
city
to
do
and
how
we
can
help
the
city.
So,
for
instance,
there's
going
to
be
a
believe:
500
million
dollars
in
economic
recovery
or
kovat
recovery
for
the
arts
sector.
How
are
we
shovel,
ready
and
poised
to
actually
receive
that
money
and
to
attract
that
money?
E
E
Is
that
we
need
numbers
in
terms
of
the
participation
in
the
arts,
the
employment
in
the
arts,
because
often
people,
because
they
they
go
to
concerts
and
performances-
think
well,
it's
fun,
but
they
don't
realize
that
the
yards
and
cultural
industry
is
a
54
billion
industry
across
Canada,
employing
700,000
people
were
a
major
employer
and
so
to
be
able
to
show
that
we're
a
major
employer.
Therefore,
we
need
to
work
on
getting
that
employment
back
for
our
artists.
E
So
if
the
city
can
help
provide
the
numbers
for
employment,
the
numbers
of
participation
and
if
there
are
economic
impact
studies
that
the
city
has
done
in
the
past,
that
would
be
really
helpful.
Because
we
need
that
external
data
to
back
up,
rather
than
it
feeling
like
a
feel-good
or
just
a
plea
to
go
in
very
confidently.
E
In
other
sectors,
so
that's
basically
what
I
wanted
to
tell
you.
I
was
I'm
glad
I'm
part
of
the
next
part
of
the
conversation,
because
I
actually
wanted
to
have
a
discussion
with
everybody
with
everybody
as
ideas.
But
I
guess
that's
the
next
done
agenda
item,
but
in
the
short
term,
just
to
summarize,
would
there
be
people
who
would
like
to
volunteer
for
the
subcommittee
Nadine,
okay,.
C
C
G
I,
don't
want
to
interfere
either
it
with
the
process
and
in
case
somebody
else
wanted
to
volunteer,
so
there's
still
room
for
others
to
put
their
hands
up
too.
So
it's
a
since
okay,
so
I've
received.
If
you're
talking
about
shovel-ready
project,
we
have
the
I
wonder
if
there's
been
a
discussion
about
the
drive
and
I've
received
several
emails
from
people
about
the
drive
and
and
I
could
imagine.
That
would
be
a
good
is
to
offer
concerts
in
in
in
a
safe
way.
So.
H
Myself
as
well,
okay,
I'm
new,
so
the
drive
in
is
if,
if
the
does,
everybody
know
that
Kingston
actually
had
one
at
one
point
not
too
long
ago,
yeah.
So
it's
owned
by
some
steel
company
in
Montreal
who
like
up
no
plans,
obviously
to
make
it
any
sort
of
drive-in
movie
theater
again,
I
did
email
them
and
didn't
get
a
reply,
but
I
was
actually
just
told
yesterday
by
one
of
the
employees
that
used
to
work
there,
that
it's
up
for
sale
again.
H
A
I
E
A
E
So
part
of
the
subcommittee's
recommendations
would
be
on
on
the
recover
of
the
arts
to
redevelop
a
public
on
concerts
again,
whether
it
be
drive-in
or
they've,
already
opened
churches
with
social
distancing.
What?
What
would
that
recovery
look
like
and
in
terms
of
the
format
of
concerts
in
the
format
of
audiences,
the
financial
aspect,
with
a
smaller
audience
and
people
trying
to
pay
artists
at
the
same
time?
E
So
I
think
just
looking
at
what
that
recovery
could
look
like
and
talk
to
the
city
about
what
the
recommendations
are
because,
of
course,
the
public
health
is
the
most
important
in.
In
terms
of
people's
lives,
but
as
we
recover,
how
can
we
start
getting
back
to
coming
to
concerts
in
a
safe
way
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
research
right
now
on
best
practices
I'm
with
kovat?
E
And
it's
basically
going
to
be
like
the
airplane
model
that
you
get
a
ticket
and
you're
told
when
you
can
come
to
the
hall
and
then
when
on
people
are
seated,
you
know
hockey
sticks
apart,
etc.
At
the
end
of
the
concert,
then
people
are
told
which
Rose
can
go
first,
so
that
you
have
no
crowds
there,
but
to
start
to
share
with
the
arts
sector.
E
If
you
could
get
back
to
me
in
terms
of
any
other
topics
and
I
will
send
that
out
to
you
any
other
topics,
thing
that
the
advisory
committee
thinks
that
we
should
be
covering
so
that
we
can
develop
a
very
integrated
and
report.
That's
a
very
proactive
to
get
the
arts
going,
because
it's
a
very
serious
situation
with
the
arts,
and
we
do
not
want
to
see
artists
and
arts
organizations
on
unable
to
make
a
living
from
the
arts
and
I
need
to
share
drugs.
C
E
Great
because
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
a
discussion,
but
then
I
really
saw
it's
a
presentation,
but
it's
good
to
hear
everybody's
ideas
and
just
I
guess
we
have
to
look
at
priorities
in
terms
of
the
topics
that
we
need
to
cover.
I
know
we
had
worked
on
the
professional
development
report
and
it
was
a
really
inclusive
process,
but
it
was
such
a
dense
document,
I'm,
not
sure
of
too
many
action
steps
happened
came
out
of
it.
E
B
C
A
J
E
J
E
K
C
D
People
wanting
to
get
involved
in
this
work
that
Patricia
is
outlining
from
the
arts
advisory
committee
would
have
to
do
so
of
their
own
time
and
in
a
volunteer
capacity.
We
do
have
a
process
within
the
city
that,
if
the
Arts
Advisory
Committee
wanted
to
strike
a
working
group,
that
is
something
that
you
can
do.
That's
in
your
purview
and
oftentimes.
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
and
speak
to
that
point
Tricia,
because
this,
the
arts
advisory
committee
is
an
important
body
as
a
conduit
between
the
arts,
community
and
council,
but
it
doesn't
actually
fulfill
an
advocacy
role.
It's
more
of
a
communications
role,
whereas
the
Kingston
Arts
Council
and
the
Kingston
Association
of
museums
that
Tricia
has
referred
to.
Those
are
arm's
length
from
the
organ
it
from
the
City
of
Kingston
and
can
play
more
of
an
advocacy
role.
D
So
just
being
aware
of
these
different
relationships
and
I
should
also
clarify
too,
that
the
mayor's
economic
recovery
task
force
is
something
that
he
has
taken
a
leadership
role
to
bring
forward
and
to
connect
sectors
which
is
fantastic.
He
has
that
purview
and
ability
to
do
that
and
Seiken
defer
to
councilors,
Neal
and
Doherty.
On
this
point,
my
understanding,
though,
is
that
it's
not
directly
linked
to
the
workings
of
the
city.
It's
something
that
he
leads
and
that
that
task
force
brings
forward
recommendations,
as
was
a
similar
case
recently
with
the
housing
task
force.
D
E
Impression,
because
we've
got
on
presentations
from
various
people
within
the
city
about
initiatives
is
the
task
force,
is
giving
commentary
and
advice
to
the
initiatives
that
the
city
is
undertaking.
Of
course
it
has
no
authority,
it's
an
advisory
body,
but
it
actually
is
commenting
on
initiatives
without
authority,
just
as
a
resource
group.
B
Annie
for
you,
and
perhaps
to
mr.
Whittington
as
well.
My
thoughts
would
be.
It
would
be
helpful
if
the
mayor's
task
force
created
a
brief
terms
of
reference
for
the
subcommittee
and
once
that
was
sort
of
endorsed
by
that
group,
it
could
be
sent
to
the
arocs
advisory
committee.
At
that
point,
it
may
be
appropriate
for
the
arts
advisory
committee
to
point
members,
and
we
could
send
that
to
Council
there
of
curious
what
your
thoughts
are.
E
James,
in
fact,
it's
not
coming
through
on
that
that
route.
In
fact,
the
in
terms
of
the
members,
the
advisory
body,
they
are
already
talking
to
their
communities
and
bringing
that
back
so
it
it's
not
I'm
getting
everybody
to
get
all
the
approvals
of
getting
groups
done
together,
as
it
would
for
the
arts
advisory
body.
This
is
the
initiative
of
the
citizens,
and
so
different
sectors
are
already
talking
to
members
of
their
particular
sector
and
then
providing
feedback
that
I
I.
B
C
Think
what
Tricia's
is
requesting
is
less
moving
through
our
procedural
stuff
with
this
committee,
which
is
a
terrific
committee
and
more
asking
for
volunteers
to
participate
in
this
other
process.
Yes,
which
is
happening
parallel
to
us
and
has
different
abilities,
including
the
ability
to
move
a
little
faster,
so
Trish
is
sort
of
blinking
at
me
in
a
nodding
kind
of
way.
So
I'm
going
to
assume
it,
I
interpreted
you
correctly
and
canceler.
Nearly
you
had
something
you'd
like
to
say.
I
Again,
first
of
all,
very
quickly:
I
apologize
for
being
late
outlook
isn't
working
for
me
today,
so
I'm
here,
thanks
to
Gmail.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Sorry
I
was
like
I
first
for
the
committee
you're
talking
about
Trish
I'm
on
kfl
and
a
public
health
board
I'd
be
happy
to
to
join
your
group,
and
we
can
kind
of
share
ideas
through
through
here
and
more
and
and
kfl
language
I
think
would
be
helpful.
I
also,
that's.
I
Welcome
looking
forward
and
Mark
can
speak
to
this
better
than
I
can
but
I
think
it
would
be
a
brilliant
idea
if
the
City
crew
no
lease
even
for
weekend
occasions
the
drive
in
I,
it
would
be
good
for
concerts.
We
could
actually
have
a
Film
Festival
again
and
regardless
of
what
the
situation
is
so
I
think
that's
really
good.
I
Wendy
at
the
screening
room
I
know
the
owners
before
she
took
over
the
screening
room
they
the
drive-in,
so
so
through
Wendy
and
them
you
may
be
able
to
get
some
more
information
and,
frankly,
no
insult
intended
mark,
but
they
might
be
more
likely
to
respond
to
a
city
of
Houston
evening,
so
so
it
would
be
worth
taking
looking
into
I.
Think
that's
a
really
good
idea.
So
great.
Thank
you.
C
So
thanks
thanks,
Kancil
Ernie.
Let's
also
remind
you
that
the
city
has
expropriation
powers.
If
you
want
to
go
in
there
with
a
club
instead
of
a
soft
hand,
I
have
a
brief
comment
on
Trish's
comments,
presentation
and
then
I
think
we'll
move
on
to
Moriah
Horner
and
something
that
I've
been
thinking
about.
Quite
a
lot
is
Trisha.
You
have
articulated
so
much
of
I.
Think
the
important
points
of
the
conversation
is
how
to
turn
this
lemon
into
lemonade,
and
it's
a
it's
a
huge
opportunity.
C
Artists
have
always
worked
with
constraints
and
been
creative
with
them.
Something
I'm
really
excited
about,
and
I
think
this
committee
and
your
economic
recovery
one
has
a
lot
of
potential
to
work
on
is
how
do
we
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
increase
access
to
diverse
audiences,
so
I'm
I?
You
know
I'm
mostly
involved
right
now
through
schools,
and
how
can
we
use
this
opportunity
to
bring
arts
through
classrooms
when
historically,
the
pattern
has
been
get
kids
on
the
bus
and
get
them
to
the
Grand
Theatre
and
which
is
fine?
C
E
C
There's
just
huge
opportunities
there
and
as
much
as
I
love
the
drive
in
the
cuz
I
I'm
so
into
it.
But
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
my
mind
is:
what
what
do
you
do
if
you
don't
have
a
car?
So
as
long
when
we're
programming
for
these
wonderful
options,
we
make
sure
we
include
how
you
get
there.
If
you
don't
have
a
car
I,
don't
think
the
bus
is
currently
even
drunk
go
to
the
drive-in.
So
that's
something
to
think
of
so
on
that
Oh
and
then
Dean.
L
Can't
hear
you
I
need
it.
Okay,
no
I
was
just
gonna.
Add
that
performances
and
concerts
for
sure
I
just
hope
that,
within
that
you
know,
brainstorming
this
idea
to
project
or
to
bring
to
larger
audiences,
also
some
virtual
gallery
type
showings
and
some
visual
arts
that
I
think
you
know
tours
of
galleries
or
some
showings
of
bodies
of
work
from
visual
artists
who
have
suffered
to
not
just
I
just
wanted
to
pipe
in
and
say
not
just
you
know
some
of
the
more
performance-based
things.
L
Yeah,
that's
great
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
there
and
all-
and
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
a
key
piece
of
the
subcommittee
work
I
think
Trisha
is
just
for
me
also
reinforcing
to
the
public
like
that
communication.
Piece
of
we
need
patrons,
and-
and
you
spoke
about
audiences,
which
is
exactly
it.
You
know
we
need
to
remind
patrons
how
important
the
arts
are.
So
I
would
think
that
once
we
have
the
whole
basket
of
you
know
the
plan
to
go
forward
and
boost
the
sector
that
there
would
be
minnow.
L
H
And
I
can
maybe
even
just
wait
to
kind
of
delve
into
some
of
this,
but
yeah
I.
Think,
like
the
the
drive-ins,
a
great
idea,
I
think
people
are
just
kind
of
wanting
to
get
out
there
into
back
to
in-person
events,
I
I'm
feeling
once
the
Isabel
starts,
opening
up
a
little
bit
in
some
capacity
or
the
spa.
The
spire,
you
know
churches,
as
you
said,
tricia
are
allowed
to
open
I,
think
maybe
only
for
worship
right
now,
but.
E
H
So
I
mean
if
we
can
somehow
and
I
think
you're
right
councillor
Neill
if
we
could
maybe
get
the
city
to
kind
of
push
the
right
buttons,
just
like
even
a
short-term
usage
of
the
space
would
be
great
until
we
could
maybe
get
back
into
some
of
these
other
spaces
and
just
as
you
were
chatting
earlier,
Tricia
there's
a
few
things.
I
was
even
thinking
about
how
the
Isabel
might
be
able
to.
If
you
have
reduced
capacity
in
the
performance
hall
start
using
some
of
those
other
spaces
that
people
typically
don't
go
to.
H
E
H
H
Sure,
like
when
you
go
to
the
leon
center,
sometimes
you're
staring
at
a
screen
anyways
on
the
side
of
the
side
of
the
stage.
So
you
don't
all
think
there's
different
ways
to
experience
things
that'd
be
Isabel.
For
example,
you
know,
maybe
in
your
rehearsal
hall,
you'd
actually
have
a
screen
set
up
there
of
what's
happening
in
the
main
and
in
the
main
performance
hall
and
I.
Don't
know
I
kind
of
interesting
I
know.
E
The
Isabel,
with
our
summer
festival
that
we
got
a
community
group
to
program
and
with
the
online
music
festival
and
then
full
day
with
Michael
wheeler
everybody's,
really
reimagining
different
ways
of
getting
the
arts
out
and
you're
right
in
terms
of
performance
practice
using
different
rooms
is
a
different
way
of
thinking.
I
think
silver
lining
that's
happening.
E
H
E
C
Okay,
these
are
all
these
are
great
ideas
and
I
think
we'll
revisit
them,
as
we
do
the
round
table
later
and
Tricia,
if
you're
able
to
stick
around
for
that,
that
would
be
terrific
awesome
and
I'll
just
remind
everyone
on
King
snart's
advisory
for
them
that
we're
a
formal,
City
Committee.
Anyone
who
wants
to
participate
in
Trish's
subcommittee,
they're,
terrific-
you
wouldn't
be
there
as
a
kaf
member,
but
we
all
do
about
95
things
in
our
days
anyhow.
C
So
thanks
to
everyone
participating
for
that,
if
anyone
does
want
to
strike
a
formal
subcommittee
of
this
committee-
and
just
let
me
know-
let
us
know-
and
we
can
review
that
as
well,
so
our
next
delegate
is
Mariah
Horner
and
either
Derek
or
James
Mariah's
about
to
turn
on
your
video.
Oh
there
you
are
hi
Mariah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
attending
and.
K
K
M
Tell
us
everything:
okay:
here
we
go
hello,
I,
don't
know
if
I
know
all
of
you
I
know
some
of
you
I'll
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
myself,
give
some
context.
So
I
am
a
Kingston
based
freelance
theater
artist.
I
ran
the
store
front
fringe
2016
to
2017,
and
now
I
primarily
work
with
two
arts
organizations.
One
of
them
tricia
mentioned,
which
is
spider.
M
Web
show
and
folda
the
festival
of
live
digital
art
and
I
work
as
their
digital
content
producer
today
is
actually
day
two
of
the
festival,
so
you
can
watch
it
if
you
want
to
participate
the
entirely.
The
entire
thing
takes
place
online
at
folded,
CA,
slash,
live
stream
and
the
whole
thing
is
by
donation,
so
it's
under
the
direction
of
Michael,
wheeler,
Sarah,
Stanley
and
Adrian
Wong,
and
it's
a
reimagined
festival.
This
is
the
third
year
of
the
festival
and,
like
I
said,
the
entire
thing
takes
place
online.
M
The
other
organization
that
I
work
for
work
with
is
a
site-specific
theater
collective,
called
cellar
door
project
that
I've
been
running
since
2012
and
I,
founded
it
at
as
a
student
and
since
then
I've
produced
16
original
works
working
with
Canada
working
with
the
cannabis
scene,
festival
at
the
National
Arts
Centre,
with
folda,
with
the
kick
and
push
festival.
Our
first
ever
show
was
actually
in
the
basement
of
Kingston
city
hall
and
there's
still
some
very
embarrassing.
Videos
of
this
show,
if
you
wanted
to
see
them
so
I
founded
Sodor
project
because
of
limitations.
M
So
that's
why
I
was
invited
to
speak
today.
I
think
is
about
this,
this
question
of
opportunities
and
limitations
and
how
they
can
work
together.
So
I
found
it
cellar
door
out
of
limitations.
I
was
a
student
I
had
no
money,
I
had
no
clout
or
no
resources
and
I
couldn't
afford
to
rent
any
spaces
in
Kingston,
I.
Remember
going
to
a
meeting
to
talk
about
the
baby,
grand
and
my
jaw
dropping
and
hitting
the
floor.
I
was
only
like
19
or
20
at
the
time,
so
I
started
to
work
in
non-traditional
spaces.
M
I
worked
in
cemeteries
and
bars
and
parks
and
Brian's
record
option
on
the
streets,
and
that
was
founded
out
of
a
limitation
of
very
real
limitation,
that
I
couldn't
afford
performance
spaces
and
that
kind
of
mentality
of
limitations.
Creating
opportunities
is
really
core
to
how
I
understand
myself
as
a
grassroots
artist.
M
So
the
first
one
is
the
show
that
actually
happened
last
night,
which
is
called
talk
to
me,
and
it
was
a
radio,
a
sex
and
dating
radio
show
that
happened
on
CF,
RC
and
all
of
the
artists
were
in
different
cities
in
Canada
and
I
was
in
see
a
Farsi
station
and
we
had
artists
in
New,
Brunswick
and
Toronto
and
Oakville
and
London,
and
the
show
sounded
like
we
were
at
least
two
of
us
were
in
the
same
room.
We
were
both
in
C
FRC,
so
we
wanted
to
build.
M
This
show,
as
kind
of
like
a
cheeky
sounds
like
we're
together,
but
not
really,
and
we
wanted
to
explore.
Can
we
still
as
artists?
Can
we
still
tell
stories
about
sex
and
intimacy
and
dating
and
love?
Even
though
none
of
us
are
in
the
same
space
and
we
use
technology,
we
used
Google
Hangouts
and
when
you
see
a
Farsi
radio
to
do
this
at
no
point
did
I
come
within
six
feet
of
any
of
my
collaborators.
Nor
of
my
audience
in
this
practice
this
show
was
definitely
live.
The
show
is
definitely
performing
arts.
M
The
other
show
that
I
want
to
speak
about
is
a
piece
that
I
made
the
first
weekend
of
May
with
Laura
shaneoh
and
Kay
Kenny,
and
it
was
called
to
you
and
it
is
a
pop-up
performance
on
porches
and
skeleton
Park
Arts
Festival
just
released
a
video
about
this,
so
you
can
watch
it,
but
the
way
it
worked
was
we
had
22
houses
in
two
days
and
we
showed
up
on
their
porches
and
did
a
10-minute
performance
and
the
piece
was
framed
as
a
surprise
birthday
party.
So
it
was
a
lot
of
joy.
M
You
know
when
I
spoke
to
Annie
about
joining
this.
That's
a
delegation.
We
talked
about
this
idea
of
like
how
can
performing
arts
adapt
and
I
am
here
to
tell
you
that
we're
already
adapting
we've
already
been
adapting
I've
been
adapting
for
10
years
since
I've
been
making
this
work
outside
of
traditional
spaces.
I
don't
think
that
the
performing
artists
need
to
adapt.
I
think
that
the
infrastructure
around
the
performing
arts
could
adapt
to
better
address.
What's
going
on
with
the
pandemic,
you
know
as
an
artist
who
deals
with
non
traditional
spaces.
M
Proximity
is
something
that
I've
always
been
exploring.
How
close
can
I
get
to
someone,
so
this
idea
of,
like
now
I
just
have
to
be
far
away
from
someone.
It's
actually
the
same
question,
but
that's
that's
a
question
I've
been
asking
for
10
years,
but
the
infrastructure
around
me,
as
the
self
producing
freelance
artist
in
this
town
does
not
support
that
kind
of
investigation.
We
all
know
the
way
that
and
operating
funding
source
sorts
out
in
this
city.
I
am
an
independent
artist.
M
It's
been
very
difficult,
I've
been
making
work
since
2012,
and
this
year
was
the
first
year
I,
actually
ever
got
a
secaf
and
I
think
there's
lots
of
things
that
we
can
do
as
a
community.
That
really
opens
up
funding
and
opportunities
for
artists
that
aren't
just
institutional.
That's
kind
of
like
the
core
idea
of
why
I'm
here
to
do
today
is
questions
that
we're
asking
about
adaptation
towards
institutions
are
not
the
same
about
adaptation
towards
individual
artists,
I'm
already
adapting
I'm.
Already
it's
already
really
working.
M
You
know
some
institutions
can't
be
as
nimble,
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
reward
that
animal.
This
is
a
weird
word,
but
we
need
to
look
and
celebrate
the
folks
that
are
freelancers
who
can
be
nimble.
You
know
some
of
the
thoughts
that
I
had,
as
some
of
my
challenges
have
been
about:
acquiring
insurance,
I
work
in
non-traditional
spaces
and
I
get
very
small
grants,
and
often
when
I
have
to
pay
insurance.
M
It's
like
a
third
of
my
grants
that
I've
received
that's
a
real
challenge
as
an
independent
artist
and
I'm
really
happy
to
have
this
platform
to
tell
you
that
that
took
me
like
two
months
to
do
and
I
had
to
piggyback
with
another
organization
to
be
successful.
It's
really
a
challenge.
I'm
independent
artist,
grants
I
work
in
a
collective.
That's
very
movable
with
I've
been
running
this
since
2012,
but
we
always
have
new
members
that
are
joining
and
participating
with
us.
M
I
have
to
have
at
least
three
co-signers
on
any
grant
that
I
write
really
hard.
That's
really
hard
work
when
I'm
dreaming
up
a
work,
that's
a
year
in
advance
and
I
want
to
acquire
some
money.
Other
options
are
grants
in
various
stages
of
development,
so,
like
tricia
was
speaking
about
one
of
the
folder
festival
of
live
digital
arts,
one
of
the
most
inspiring
things
about
this
festival
is
they
program
work
in
three
different
stages
of
development,
so
for
their
festival
they
have
works
that
are
in
alpha.
M
So
this
idea
of
various
stages
of
development
funding
and
celebrating
work,
not
just
when
it's
finished
and
perfect
and
polished.
The
other
thing
that
I'll
speak
about
is
the
difference
between
online
and
live
work,
but
these
are
really
opportunities
that
I've
found
a
lot
of
excitement
in
in
the
last
two
three
months,
like
I
said,
the
first
show
I
spoke
to
you
about.
M
The
talk
to
me,
which
was
on
the
radio,
was
a
digital
performance
that
is
a
tool
for
safe
social
distance
performance,
but
to
you,
which
was
the
pop-up
port,
show
no
technology
required
and
I
think
that
a
really
important
thing
for
us
to
remember
is
that
technology
is
privileged
and
like
Annie
brought
up
with
the
car
and
the
drive
in
technology.
Computers,
high-speed
Internet,
digital
tools,
are,
you
know,
widely
unavailable
to
underrepresented
and
under
resourced
communities.
M
So
I
I,
don't
really
know
when
I
wanted
to
so
much,
but
to
say
that
as
an
independent
artist
in
Kingston,
I
see
a
lot
of
hope
for
ways
that
we
can
move
forward
within
this
new
normal.
Whatever
that
may
be,
and
I
would
be
really
moved
if
I
felt
infrastructure
around
me
adjusting
in
the
same
way
that
I
am
adjusting,
you
know,
I
could
go
radical,
it's
a
universal
basic
income,
but
well
we'll
stop
there.
So
I'd
love
to
chat
with
anybody
else.
M
C
Thanks,
thank
you
so
much
mariah.
I
I
find
your
message
of
hope
and
creativity
really
really
fun
and
something
that
I
think
is
wonderful
is
here
you
are
with
tricia
Baldwin,
and
the
opportunities
for
working
together
between
the
city
and
the
Baader
and
Queens
and
grassroots
organizations
is
very
high
right
now
again,
let's,
let's
make
some
lemonade
out
of
these
lemons.
Particular
questions
from
our
eye
are
things
that
they'd
like
to
ask
her
about
or
talk
about.
C
C
J
N
Unmute
and
then
it
relapsed
on
me,
okay
hi,
my
question:
I
was
just
curious,
Mariah
based
on
the
donations
and
the
views
that
you
got
on
last
night,
just
as
sort
of
a
preliminary
snapshot
of
what
you
might
expect
from
the
festival
this
year
in
comparison
to
other
years
and
how
the
programming
is
changed.
Yeah.
M
So
I
don't
have
the
numbers
yet,
from
last
night,
I
have
some
of
the
numbers
we
did.
There
was
an
ASL
interpreted
version
of
the
radio
show
that
happened
that
had
60
deaf
audience,
members
that
were
watching
on
YouTube,
which
was
so
awesome.
As
for
what
were
our
numbers
around
yesterday,
I
think
we
had
about
1500
folks
that
were
tuning
in
on
and
off
on
our
player
online.
So
those
were
really
good
numbers
we're
really
doing
well
with
our
donations.
M
We
rerouted
our
donations
for
the
last
nine
days
to
black
lives
matter
Toronto,
so
we've
just
restarted
them
again
yesterday,
but
we
were
doing
really
well
in
the
donations
department
as
well
the
top
of
the
pop
up
performance
piece.
We
could
have
run
that
show
for
like
two
more
weeks.
You
know
a
lot
of
folks.
We
did
two
weeks
of
it
and
then
it
was.
We
told
any
everybody
not
to
tell
anyone,
because
it
was
a
secret,
but
then
it
was
everybody
on
the
internet
asking
us.
When
could
we
do
more?
M
We
didn't
have
a
grant
for
that
piece.
That
piece
was
kind
of
a
labor
of
love.
It
was
my
birthday
gift
to
myself,
but
it
you
know,
the
audience
was
really
great.
I
can't
speak
too
much
to
fold
his
numbers
yet
because
we
only
had
day
one
yesterday
but
I'm
pretty
confident
that
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
match
and
exceed
what
we've
done
last
year,
fantastic.
H
Miriam
hi,
that's
awesome,
like
we
like
just
said
you're
speaking,
it
reminds
me
of
probably
when
we
were
closer
to
your
age
when
we
started
kpp
and
going
into
venues
that
would
have
us,
and
they
were
all
you
know
like
Chinese
restaurants
and
like
really
weird
spaces,
it
seems
like
you're
able
to
effectively
navigate
the
world
of
Grant's,
probably
a
lot
better
than
some
other
artists
might
be
able
to.
So,
just
as
you
were
going
through
your
programming,
which
sounds
awesome,
I
think
a
lot
of
artists
struggle.
H
Maybe
this
is
a
little
bit
more
in
the
music
world,
but
they
really
struggle
with
grants
and
public
funding.
So
for
them
in
order
for
them
to
do
something
similar
socially
distance
concert
and
like
in
a
different
space,
it
might
be
harder
for
them
to
monetize.
Something
like
that.
So
I
don't
know
if
yeah
I
guess
that
that's
just
what
I
was
thinking
as
you
were
mentioning
it.
H
M
It's
a
good
point,
I
think
about
musicians,
often
because
it's
mainly
my
cohort
of
artists,
pals
in
the
city
or
musicians,
and
you
know,
I
come
in
guns
blazing
with
hope
and
opportunity,
and
a
lot
of
musicians.
I
know
are
really
not
stoked
on
hearing
that
from
me
and
I
totally
empathize
in
respect,
respect
that,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
it.
This
idea
that
I
have
about
being
able
to
support
artists
in
various
stages
of
development.
M
I
think
that
this
idea
of
despair
with
what's
going
on
with
musicians,
it's
kind
of
connected
because
they're
like
well
I,
don't
have
an
album.
Well,
I,
don't
have
a
concert.
Can
we
support
musicians?
While
they
are
writing
music?
Can
we
support
musicians
while
they
are
trying
a
live
stream
for
the
first
time?
You
know
I
volunteered
a
lot
of
my
musician
friends
I'm
a
pretty
good
at
live
streaming
now,
so
I
said
to
them.
I'm
like
it'll.
Take
me
two
hours
come.
A
A
A
G
G
It
sounds
really
fun
and
it,
but
it's
not
surprising
that
that
happened
in
skeleton
Park.
So
I
wonder
if
there's
some
thoughts
to
actually
bring
that
to
other
neighborhoods
and
in
fact,
a
lot
of
our
Kingston
arts.
The
way
I
see
it
might
be
missing.
A
lot
of
it
is
around
the
downtown
core,
and
how
can
we
bring
it
to
the
north
and
west
and
east
and
and
and
be
a
bit
more
creative
in
that
way,
yeah.
M
M
We
had
a
car
for
this
show
which
would
speak
to
is
the
other
point
is
a
little.
You
know
for
me
as
an
artist
I,
don't
own
a
car,
so
I
live
in
skeleton
Park.
So
it's
you
know
it's
the
same.
It's
a
similar
kind
of
question
of
like
I
can't
get
to
the
north
end,
because
I
don't
have
a
car
or
make
work
there,
but
this
piece
was:
was
we
used
a
car
someone
else?
M
G
M
M
We
had
been
thinking
about
making
a
similar
but
different
story
with
the
piece,
because
this
idea
of
a
pop-up
show
can
kind
of
have
many
different
kinds
of
stories,
but
yeah
I'll
send
a
pile
of
links
and
information
to
Annie
and
she
can
share
it
with
the
group,
specifically
I
I
would
say,
what's
going
on
with
right
now
in
the
afternoons
might
be
of
specific
interest
to
this
Oregon,
this
working
group
or
committee
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I
misspoke,
it
is
right
now
what
they're
doing
in
the
afternoon.
M
You
watch
it
and
it's
really
overwhelming
to
look
at,
but
then
you
realize,
oh,
my
god,
there
are
40
people
in
this
call
from
eight
different
like
London
and
New
Zealand,
and
this
is
happening
in
Kingston
they're
based
in
Kingston.
This
is
a
Kingston
based
organization.
That's
running
this
festival,
so
sometimes
it's
not
super
graceful,
but
it's
it's
been
working,
I!
Think
it's
been
working
so
far,
so
I'll
send
it
off
to
Annie.
The
first
show
today
starts
at
3:00.
C
Yeah
that
would
be
great
I'll,
send
it
to
the
group.
Well,
James
will
actually
cuz
he's
the
one
who
does
all
the
work
immediately
so
Mariah.
Thank
you.
This
has
been
really
interesting
to
hear
what
you're
doing
and
also
just
really
hopeful
and
I
think
we're
gonna
pass
it
over
to
you
now
Colin,
if
you're
ready
to
update
us
and
after
that,
we're
just
gonna
talk
really
briefly
about
the
mayor's
Arts
Awards
and
then
I.
We
don't
have
tons
of
time,
but
I
would
love
to
do
a
roundtable
it's
10:30
now.
C
Do
people
want
to
do
a
roundtable
at
after
Colin
and
presentation
and
the
mayor's
Arts
Awards
as
part
of
this
meeting,
or
do
people
have
things
they
need
to
get
on
to
and
we
should
schedule
another
meeting,
I,
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
tell
me
because
they're
all
muted,
so
Liz?
Why
don't
you
start.
F
I
suspect
the
roundtable
is
going
to
take
a
bulk
of
our
time.
So
really
we
should
probably
hear
from
Collin
and
get
the
work
done.
I
do
have
to
leave,
though
at
11:00
my
mother
is
in
a
nursing,
home
and
I've
got
my
outdoor
visit
scheduled,
so
it's
possible.
Maybe
we'll
have
to
do
some
email
with
ideas
through
James.
C
Yeah,
what
what
do
y'all
think
of
that
as
a
plaintiff
Oh
we'll
do
our
stuff!
Okay!
Go
ahead!
Oh,
and
are
you
in
favor
you're
doing
that
Quaker
thing
that
Quakers
do
okay
great!
So
why
don't
we
do
that
and
Tricia
and
Mariah
if
we
communicate
through
email?
Would
you
like
to
be
part
of
that
email
thread?
Definitely.
B
C
C
Don't
James
you
and
I?
Why
don't
we
talk
about
exactly
what
we
can
do
over
email
or
not
after
the
meeting
and
we'll
see
how
far
we
can
push
that
ticket
yeah?
Does
that
sound
okay,
we'll
just
see
how
far
we
could
go?
Maybe
we
could
share
ideas
but
not
discuss
them
or
something
like
that
and
then
be
part
of
that
and
Trish.
Would
you
want
to
be
part
of
that?
Or
do
you
sort
of
have
other
fish
you
want
to
fry
right
now,
I
think.
E
D
C
Sure
so
I
think
we
could
hopefully
do
that
we're
just
a
bit
tight
for
time,
but
I
think
we
can
do
that,
but
we
have
to
kind
of
burn
through
the
mayor's
afterwards
and
I
do
want
to
hear
your
update
as
well
Colin,
so
I'm
kind
of
flailing
a
little
here.
You
can
probably
all
see
that,
but
I
think
we
do
need
to
talk
about
the
mayor's
Arts
Awards
I
would
like
to
hear
Colin's
update.
C
C
C
D
You
all
my
thoughts
but
I
think
some
of
my
thoughts
know.
The
purpose
of
this
update
right
now
was
really
to
provide
a
bit
more
information
in
context
in
relation
to
a
council
report
that
went
forward
on
May
20th.
That
was
the
first
real
opportunity
that
city
staff
had
to
report
back
to
Council
regarding
how
we,
as
staff,
are
managing
and
responding
to
kovat
19,
as
it
has
become
such
a
reality
for
all
of
us.
D
As
an
offshoot
of
that,
then
we
started
to
have
to
look
at
how
business
or
our
services
that
we
provide
were
being
impacted
as
we
differentiated
between
essential
and
non-essential
services
and
as
our
facilities
that
we
often
run
we're
being
shut
down
and
starting
to
track.
The
impacts
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
provide
services.
I
D
We
were
also
strategizing
around
issues
related
to
council
priorities,
as
well
as
capital
planning
projects
and
our
ability
to
deliver
on
those
things,
as
our
priorities
were
shifting,
and
so
the
report
gets
into
those
details
and
just
in
terms
of
cultural
services
within
the
report,
as
with
many
other
departments,
there
is
a
number
of
capital
projects
that
have
been
deferred
into
2021
or
beyond.
So
it
was
a
very
high-level
holistic
snapshot
of
that
moment
in
time.
D
For
the
information
of
this
committee,
there
is
a
second
or
a
follow-up
report
being
developed
for
I
believe
a
special
council
meeting,
that
is
to
happen
on
June
23rd.
Now
that
we
are
seeing
a
regional
reopening
as
many
people
are
aware,
the
emergency
measures
by
the
province
are
still
in
effect
until
June
30th.
I
K
D
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
happening
right
now,
but
just
in
terms
of
a
snapshot
of
cultural
services,
I
think
the
the
most
important
thing
to
flag
is
that
in
these
early
phases
of
Kovan
19,
as
has
been
referenced
earlier
in
this,
this
meeting,
culture
along
with
recreation,
were
deemed
to
be
non-essential
services,
as
resources
were
being
redirected
to
other
parts
of
our
corporation
and
the
services
that
we
provide.
So
a
number
of
departments
saw
impacts
in
terms
of
lost
revenue.
A
D
Departments
or
laid
off
to
try
and
mitigate
some
the
financial
impacts
that
were
being
tract,
and
so
you
know
ridership
on
Kingston
transit,
which
has
been
a
leader
in
Canada
for
its
growth.
You
know:
we've
had
to
layoff
bus
drivers
because
people
just
aren't
taking
public
transit.
You
know,
recreation
facilities
are
closed,
so
rec
staff
or
being
either
redeployed
or
laid
off,
and
the
same
is
true
in
cultural
services
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
the
Grand
Theater
we
had
to
end
our
current
season.
M
D
Reopening
and
also
to
keep
some
major
projects
going
forward,
such
as
our
efforts
around
reconciliation
for,
engage
for
change
and,
and
examples
like
that.
So
we
are
functioning
in
a
very
different
way
right
now,
but
we
are
trying
to
keep
things
moving
forward
and
are
now
part
of
the
discussions
around
reopening
and
what
elements
we
can
be
involved
with,
supporting
and
so
Nadine
who's
here
from
the
Ted
Center
lots
of
conversations
between
us
and
and
her
and
the
board
about
getting
the
Ted
Center
reopened
in
some
form
I'm
moving
forward.
D
Looking
at
the
possibility
of
reopening
the
punc
House
Museum,
for
example,
but
we
do
anticipate
that
it
will
be
quite
a
while
before
the
Grand
Theater
can
come
back
online
but
at
the
same
time
we're
continuing
to
do
a
lot
of
work.
That's
probably
less
public
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
our
Arts
Fund
and
our
heritage
funds
continue
on
uninterrupted.
And
you
know,
council,
Authority
and
councillor
Neill
recently
participated
in
jury.
D
D
I
D
I
Wasn't
working
I'm
having
a
rough
day?
I
was
on
the
jury,
arts
funding
and
there
were
a
lot
of
really
really
good
projects,
but
some
of
the
critique
that
went
on
and
I
won't
get
into
individual
because
it's,
but
it
had
to
do
with
what
alternative
plans
it
groups
have
if
there
was
indeed
a
situation
if
we
were
still
part
of
the,
as
we
probably
will
be
the
social
distancing
being
unable
to
to
do
things
in
groups,
and
so
that's
something
I
think
and
I
know.
I
B
D
So
certainly
what
we
are
hoping
to
support
and
and
are
moving
forward
with,
is
that
the
City
of
Kingston
remains
committed
to
that,
as
we
start
to
sort
out
what
the
realities
are
but
I,
you
know,
councillor
Neos
points
are
well-taken
I,
think
everyone's
challenged
right
now
to
figure
out
how
to
pivot
and
continue
to
deliver
on
their
mandates
and
services.
In
this
moment,.
B
C
Thank
you
so
much
calling
for
the
update
and
you
know
we're
all
looking
forward
to
you
getting
your
staff
back.
That's
for
sure,
and
now
actually,
if
you
don't
want
keeping
going
:,
would
you
be
able
to
update
us
on
the
mayor's
Arts
Awards
than
what
you
need
from
us
in
that
in
terms
of
that
project?
Sure.
D
Thank
you
Andy,
so
I
did
send
through
email
ahead
of
this
meeting,
just
a
prompt
about
the
terms
of
reference
for
this
program.
So
normally
by
this
time,
in
the
cycle
of
a
year,
we
would
have
established
a
nominations
working
group
related
to
the
mayor's
Arts
Awards.
The
timeline
is
typically
that,
by
the
end
of
August
that
nominations
working
group
has
identified
five
people
as
recipients
of
the
three
different
award
categories,
and
then
we
would
move
forward
with
planning
in
the
fall
to
actually
announce
those
winners.
D
Obviously
this
year,
as
with
everything,
the
likelihood
is
that
that
won't
be
a
live
event
when
the
winners
get
announced,
but
we
did
feel
there
was
tremendous
value
and
in
having
this
program
move
forward
this
year.
In
spite
of
the
circumstances,
and
so
really
the
need
at
this
moment
is
to
have
the
arts
advisory
committee
identify
participants
to
move
forward
with
the
nominating
process
and
the
selection
process
based
on
the
terms
of
reference.
D
So
the
terms
of
reference
I
believe
define
that
that
there
be
at
least
three
members
of
the
arts
advisory
committee
participating
in
that
nominations,
working
group,
one
of
whom
is
a
city
councilor,
and
last
year
we
had
councillor
Dorothy
participate
along
with
Andrea
super-sad
and
Sarah
sang
on
behalf
of
the
arts,
advisory
committee
and
Marnie
McDermott,
mark
darkness
and
the
past
Award
winner
here
in
ball
were
also
part
of
that
nominations.
Working
group.
So
at
this
point
it
would
be
fantastic
to
keep
coming
out
of
today's
meeting.
D
We
could
identify
a
counselor
along
with
two
other
members
of
this
committee,
who
would
like
to
be
part
of
the
nominations
working
group
going
forward
in
2020
and
potentially
to
identify
some
people
who
could
be
approached
from
the
community
to
participate
as
well.
Who
could
be
pointed
at
the
next
arts
advisory
committee
meeting
so
that
that
can
move
up
through
Council
for
their
approval.
D
And
typically,
we
would
include
past
recipient
from
the
last
twenty
twenty
twenty
nineteen
cycle
of
award
recipients,
and
so
that
would
include
mark
surrett,
Helen,
Humphreys,
Don,
Maynard's
and
Jan
Allen,
potentially
to
approach
one
of
those
people
to
participate
as
well.
So
right
now,
I'm
looking
for
a
counselor
and
two
committee
members
to
make
themselves
available
to
be
appointed
and
some
ideas
from
four
other
community
members
who
we
might
approach
and
because.
C
O
D
C
B
C
Great,
so,
let's
vote
on
that
to
a
point:
Dean
Nadine
and
councillor
Neill,
all
in
favor
wiggle
your
hands
around
okay,
terrific!
Congratulations
on
your
appointment
friends!
We
know
you'll
do
a
terrific
job.
We
it's
about
nine
minutes
to
eleven
o'clock.
Liz
I
know
you've
gotta
go
I,
sort
of
think
it
would
be
a
bit
rude
of
us
to
continue
without
you
do
we
have
any
other
business
in
the
last
few
minutes,
Oh.
D
Danny
just
to
finish
off
of
the
mayor's
Arts
Awards.
If
people
have
any
names
that
they
wanted
to
bring
forward,
that
potentially
could
be
approached
from
the
community
to
be
appointed
to
this
working
group
as
well.
That
could
be
approved
at
the
next
arts
advisory
committee.
Meeting
I
mean
staff
can
help
make
that
do
the
reach
out
to
those
people.
If
and
if
there
aren't
any
immediate
suggestions
today,
if
that
can
be
communicated
back
to
me
through
the
clerk's
office,
that
would
be
great.
C
C
K
D
The
mayor's
Arts
Award
working
group
tends
to
be
chaired
by
one
of
the
members
and
be
fairly
self.
Sufficient
staff
are
here
to
help
from
an
administrative
point
of
view,
but
in
terms
of
of
getting
the
process
going,
I'm
happy
to
help
start
getting
some
meetings
rolling
and
also
to
help
contact
and
work
through
this
committee
to
confirm
those
community
participants.
C
D
C
C
D
Any
again,
I
might
just
add
and
and
James
can
weigh
in
on
this.
Typically,
the
Arts
Advisory
Committee
meets
monthly
on
the
second
Thursday
of
the
month.
I
believe
it
is
James,
so
in
terms
of
continuing
the
discussion
just
to
give
people
a
time
frame
normally,
we
would
then
meet
in
a
month
in
July,
but
James.
If
there
was
desire
to
have
this
kovat
19
roundtable
discussion
on
an
earlier
timeline.
Is
that
something
that's
possible.
B
For
sure
yeah
we're
super
flexible.
So
if
the
chair
would
like
to
coordinate
an
additional
meeting,
we'd
be
happy
to
arrange
at
what's
the
group
provided
that
stuff
is
available
in
that
type
of
thing,
and
I
wouldn't
be
helpful
Colin
to
frame
that
discussion
further.
So
we
had
a
focused
sort
of
agenda
item
on
the
next
meeting,
or
did
you
do
that
sort
of
a
few
minutes
ago,
when
you
just
want
to
sort
of
more
or
less
hear
briefly
from
everyone
about
their
experiences.
D
A
D
B
Okay,
so
when
we
cool
off
then,
like
you
just
mentioned
for
the
reopening
report,
when
you
believe
it's
appropriate
for
this
committee
to
meet
in
a
few
weeks,
we'll
call
another
meeting,
I
believe
I,
just
tentatively
scheduled
the
next
meeting
for
the
second
Thursday
and
August,
but
we'll
obviously
meet
well
before
that
and
we'll
go
from
there.
If
that's
appropriate.
D
C
C
B
D
B
D
B
B
Obviously,
we
can
meet
as
soon
as
necessary
if
it
is
deemed
that
it
would
be
more
useful
to
meet
after
the
report
being
issued
to
Council
that
we
can
decide
to
delay
a
few
weeks.
But
if
we
just
want
to
simply
continue
this
meeting
and
deal
with
the
discussion,
then
we
can
pretty
much
call
that
meeting
at
any
time.
C
Sure,
maybe
again
I
hope,
I'm
doing
this
right,
but
I'm
gonna
just
propose
a
motion
right
now
that
James
and
Collin
and
I
will
find
a
time
within
the
next
three
weeks.
That
would
be
agreeable
to
a
meeting
of
this
committee
and
basically
the
only
item
is
a
roundtable
on
what
we
can
do.
Moving
forward.
C
Okay
looks
like
councillor
Daugherty's
fine.
If
that
and
can
I
get
a
second
or
little
second,
that
let's
vote
on,
that,
okay,
great
so
James,
James
and
I
and
Cohen
we'll
be
in
touch,
and
that's
great
that
we
can
move
ahead
with
that.
Why
don't
we
move
forward
now
to
our
extremely
brief
roundtable
and
Liz?
Would
you
be
able
to
lead
the
conversation
or
do
you
need
to
leave
Oh
story?
You're,
muted,
Liz,
just
go
to
your
unmute
thing
and
you'll
unmute
yourself.
C
C
Motions
notice,
emotion,
other
business
correspondence
date
and
time
next
meeting:
okay,
I
dream
it
back
to
that
one
can
I
get
a
mover
for
draining
and
a
secondary
great
and
let's
vote
on
it
all
in
favor.
Okay,
thanks
everyone
for
putting
up
with
me
thanks
very
much
to
jeans
for
making
sure
this
happened
and
to
call
in
for
your
presentation
and
James
and
I
will
be
in
touch
about
another
round
table
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it
and
I
I
think
you
know,
I
remain
hopeful
and
optimistic.