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B
We
need
about
30
seconds,
it
just
lags
a
little
bit,
but
while
we
wait
for
that
to
start
I'd
like
to
introduce
elizabeth
fossa
to
the
committee
she's,
a
new
employee
in
the
clerk's
office
and
she's
replacing
derek
o'shea
who
worked
with
me
for
the
past
few
years,
so
this
is
her
first
keefe
meeting
and
I'm
sure
she's
looking
forward
to
it
and
mr
cherry
believe
he
can
commence
at
this
point.
C
A
Thank
you
and
welcome
everybody
and
they'll
be.
A
So
we've
got
a
quorum,
that's
good!
Thank
you
very
much
for
for
participating
tonight.
We,
I
think,
you've
all
seen
the
agenda.
I
think
there's
maybe
one
major
major
thing
to
discuss
tonight
and
if
there
are
any
questions,
I
just
just
refresh
my
memory
james.
How
are
we
doing
you
just
just
sign
if
people
want
to
say
something,
people
are
all
muted
by
default.
Is
that
the
way
it
works.
B
Yes,
everyone's
muted,
by
default,
so
you
can
either
use
the
raise
hand
tool
within
zoom,
which
is
the
preferred
method,
but
for
just
voting
on
items
or
movie
and
seconding
items.
It's
appropriate
just
to
raise
your
hand
and
the
chair,
and
I
will
work
through
that.
A
Okay,
very
good
thanks,
so
we
let's
see,
do
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
I'll
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
we'll
start
with
approval
of
the
agenda,
any
omissions
or
anything.
C
A
Okay,
can
I
can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda,
then
from
rachel
and
seconded
by
councillor
doherty
thanks
all
those
in
favor.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Do
you
have
the
minutes
james
sent
around
from
our
meeting
on
july
29th
any
errors
or
omissions
from
the
minutes.
A
I
think
I
think
everything
is
is
fine
that
I
that
I
went
through
so
can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
counselor,
neil
seconder
from
dave
stocks
and
all
those
in
favor?
A
Okay,
yeah
disclosure
of
pecuniary
interest,
any
any
pecuniary
interest
problems,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on.
Are
there
any
delegations
tonight.
A
So
we'll
get
right
into
item
six.
The
briefing
from
julie,
salter,
keen
the
manager
of
climate
leadership
and
and
provide
she'll
give
us
a
review
of
the
kingston
community
climate
action
fund
over.
B
D
Okay,
I'm
julie,
salterkeen,
I'm
the
manager
of
the
climate,
leadership,
division
and
dave
rowaid
is
with
me
this
evening
and
he's
the
climate
leadership
project
manager
and
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
come
to
your
meeting
this
evening,
and
the
purpose
of
the
presentation
is
to
allow
dave
and
I
to
provide
us
with
the
opportunity
to
review
and
provide
an
overview
of
the
kingston
community
climate
action
fund
that
was
approved
by
council
on
july
7th.
So
the
the
fund
is
approved.
D
The
purpose
of
this
meeting
tonight
is
to
provide
you
with
that
overview,
as
there
will
be
some
tasks
that
we'll
be
looking
forward
with
you
in
on
november
9th.
D
So
briefly,
our
presentation
is
to
just
really
provide
the
overview
of
council's
strategic
priority,
an
overview
of
council's
direction
in
the
development
of
the
community
climate
action
fund.
We
will
provide
a
briefing
of
the
focus
of
the
fund
and
the
eligibility
criteria,
the
fun
process
stages
and
timelines,
and
next
steps
for
keith,
which
I
just
just
briefly
indicated,
and
then
we
will
have
time
for
her
questions
council's
strategic
plan.
D
D
So
the
overview
of
council's
direction
next
slide,
as
I
indicated,
that
it
came
from
the
strategic
priority
and
from
two
motions
of
council
in
2019,
where
they
directed
staff
to
look
at
developing
a
fund
that
residents
could
donate
to.
That
would
go
above
and
beyond,
what's
already
budgeted
by
council
and
their
operating
and
capital
costs,
and
the
fund
was
approved.
D
As
I
indicated
on
july
7th
and
from
that
motion,
there
were
a
number
of
motions
within
the
recommendation
that
we
will
get
to
further
on
in
the
presentation,
but
just
want
to
highlight
here
for
you,
the
motions
included
that
canada
helps
would
be
the
online
platform
that
we
will
be
using
when
we
do
launch
our
campaign
for
donations
later
in
the
year
that
the
kingston
community
credit
union
would
be
a
community
partner
and
they
would
be
accepting
donations
within
their
branches
and
they'll
be
matching
funds
up
to
five
thousand
dollars
from
those
that
are
donated
within
their
branch
and
the
fund
included
a
number
of
phases
that
we
will
go
through
a
flow
chart
earlier
or
later.
D
But
just
to
briefly
outline
for
you
phase,
one
was
the
formal
agreements
with
the
donation
collection
partners.
So
that's
what
dave
and
I
are
doing
now-
we're
working
with
canada
helps
in
the
credit
union
to
set
up
our
agreements
that
we
need
in
place
to
to
be
able
to
do
to
accept
donations
in
december
phase.
Two
is
a
call
for
applications
for
for
the
projects
himself
and
that
was
launched
on
september
9th.
D
We
have
a
project
page
on
the
city
website
for
the
kingston
community
climate
action
fund,
and
if
you
haven't
been
there,
I
you
should
take
some
time,
maybe
to
look
at
it
and
the
closing
date
for
the
the
submission
of
applications
is
october.
7Th
council
also
endorsed
staff's
recommendation.
D
That
keefe
is
the
body
that
would
be
evaluating
the
applications
against
the
eligibility
criteria
to
screen
the
projects,
proposals
that
best
fit
the
objectives
on
the
eligible
projects
and
that's
why,
as
I
said,
we
are
here
today
to
provide
with
that
overview
and
get
everything
in
place.
So
when
we
bring
the
projects
with
summaries
in
november,
9th
you'll
have
that
familiarity
with
the
project
and
then
phase
three?
D
Is
the
development
and
launch
of
the
fundraising
campaign,
which
will
run
from
december
to
march
and
phase
four
would
be
the
disbursements
of
funds
and
project
implementation
next,
so
the
the
focus
of
the
fun
is
to
raise
charitable
donations
to
support
local
projects.
The
community
projects
need
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
D
Our
air
emissions
increase
energy
conservation
or
efficiency
reduce
our
divert
organic
waste
and
assist
with
climate
change.
Adaptation.
We've
done
a
bit
of
bullets
to
see
if
we
can
get
the
project
applications
in
we.
As
I
said,
we've
launched
our
project
page.
We
have
a.
We
had
an
email
that
was
targeted
to
a
lot
of
our
non-profits
that
we
work
with
and
we've
been
reaching
out
to
them.
We
will
have
a
radio
ad
next
week
that
will
run
all
next
week,
encouraging
non-profits
to
submit
projects.
D
So
I
certainly
encourage
you
if
you
know
non-profits
or
charities
that
or
it
could,
you
know,
put
in
a
project
that
you
reach
out
to
them,
and
you
know
if
they
have
any
questions.
They
can
certainly
reach
out
to
myself
and
I
can
assist
them
to
to
submit
a
project
and
finally,
with
the
covet
economic
recovery
being
launched
over
the
next
three
years,
preference
will
be
given
to
projects
that
have
direct
measurable
ghg
emission
reductions,
but
I
also
can
stimulate
the
economy
economy
in
the
near
term
as
well.
D
Next
slide
and
dave
is
going
to
go
from
here.
James.
E
Great
so
good
evening,
everyone
and
to
follow
continue
on
where
julie
left
off
the
eligibility
criteria,
as
outlined
in
the
report
to
council,
is
that
the
applicants
must
be
registered
charities
or
non-profit
organization.
This
is
largely
a
requirement
of
the
canada
revenue
agency
to
as
we
will
be,
directing
charitable
donations,
where
receipts
will
be
given
out
for
tax
deduction
purposes,
so
nonprofits
can
partner
with
the
registered
charity
or
the
city
in
order
to
meet
this
requirement.
E
Projects
must
also
be
implemented
within
the
city
boundaries,
as
it
is
a
city
sponsored
fund
and
substantially
completed
within
a
year's
time.
This
is
largely
to
help
projects
have
a
defined
start
and
finish
period,
so
they
they
don't
drag
on
and,
and
it
should
be
something
that
could
be
done
in
a
reasonable
amount
of
time.
They
also
must
be
tangible.
So
you
see
the
note
that
education
projects,
which
are
often
the
the
topic
of
some
of
these
funding
applications,
are
not
the
focus
in
the
in
the
initial
years.
E
We
want
to
try
to
prioritize,
as
as
julia
mentioned,
projects
that
have
measurable
ghd
reductions,
particularly
over
the
next
few
years,
and
applicants
are
required
to
monitor
the
project's
impacts
and,
of
course,
we
as
city
staff
can
be
resourced
to
them
to
help
them
figure
that
out
james.
If
you
would
please
advance
the
next
slide.
E
So
I
think
julie
touched
upon
this,
but
the
fun
process
we're
at
that
first
box.
So
this
goes
from
left
to
right
down
over
back
to
the
left
and
then
down
again.
So
we've
issued
a
call
for
proposals
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
we've
been
contacting
some
of
the
community
leaders
as
a
follow-up
to
encourage
them
to
apply
to
provide
them
with
our
time
if
they
want
to
bounce
ideas
off
us
to
see
if
they're
eligible
once
the
the
final
date
is
closed
october
7th.
E
We
will
summarize
the
applications
for
this
committee
and
provide
it
to
you
to
you
in
advance
of
the
november
9th
meeting,
so
you
can
evaluate
it
against
the
eligibility
criteria.
At
that
meeting,
we
are
looking
to
get
final
recommendations
on
which
projects
are
recommended
to
proceed
for
council
consideration.
So
it'll
be
a
staff
report
with
a
recommendation
from
this
committee
and
staff
on
which
projects
should
receive
funds.
E
That's
actually
when
we
start
the
fundraising
campaign,
so
we
can
provide
a
summary
blurb
on
our
project
website
to
show
which
projects
will
are
up
for
for
donations,
and
research
shows
that
people
are
more,
have
a
greater
tendency
to
donate,
to
something
specific
than
something
vague,
and
this
will
have
the
added
benefit
of
being
something
in
their
own
backyard,
something
and
locally
that
they'll
be
able
to
touch
and
feel
and
see
so.
E
Donors
can
vote
on
which
projects
get
their
donation
and
the
donations
are
collected,
as
julia
mentioned
through
an
online
platform
that
is
quite
well
known.
Canada
helps
as
well
as
in
person
in
both
the
credit.
U
kingston,
community
credit
union
and
td,
which
is
the
city's
bank
on
record.
E
So
the
donations
are
then
deposited
into
kingston's
bank
account
because
we
will
be
allocating
the
funds
to
the
qualified
dhonis.
Based
on
the
recommendations
in
the
report,
once
dhoni
dhoni's
carry
out
the
work
we
expect
in
around
spring
2021,
we
ask
that
they
report
results
back
of
completed
projects.
E
E
E
I
think
julie
had
covered
most
of
this
and
it
is
in
the
council
report.
But
I'll
say
we
are
we
we're
just
about
finishing
phase
one.
We
have
started
phase
two
I'd
mention
when
the
fundraising
campaign
will
start,
as
you
can
appreciate.
E
A
lot
of
people
try
to
maximize
their
donations
before
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
for
tax
purposes,
so
we're
starting,
hopefully
at
the
beginning
of
december
and
we'll
go
into
into
march,
and
then
we
hope
that
the
projects
will
largely
take
place
in
the
warmer
weather
between
spring
and
fall
than
that.
We
can
report
back
to
repeat
the
cycle
again
in
the
fall
of
next
year.
Next
slide.
Please.
E
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we'll
be
compiling
the
applications
received
by
the
deadline
date
and
sending
in
advance
of
the
november
9th
meeting
for
this
committee's
review.
And
then
we
are
asking
that
you
committee
members
review
the
applications
and
evaluate
against
the
fund
criteria.
That's
within
the
council
report
and
then
we
can
have
a
discussion
around
eligible
projects
at
the
november
9th
meeting,
and
I
believe
that's
the
end
of
the
presentation
where
we
open
up
and
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
may
have.
A
F
I
am
permanently
unmuted
because
I
always
forget
to
turn
it
on
a
couple
of
things.
First,
I'm
I'm
really
really
happy
to
see
that
keith
has
been
given
a
role
in
this.
F
I've
been
a
member
of
keith
for
some
time,
and
there
were
some
times
when
we
felt
we
were
the
forgotten
committee
and
it's
good
to
see
that
they're,
applying
our
our
criteria
and
finding
a
really
good
job
for
us
to
work
on
the
other
thing
is
I'm
really
really
pleased
that
there's
an
element
of
participatory
democracy
here,
the
idea
that
we're
giving
donors
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
on
how
the
mon
the
money
gets
distributed
is
a
tenet
of
participatory
democracy,
which
so
it's
excellent
that
that
we've
adopted
that
the
one
thing
that
gave
me
some
pause
and
I'll
just
try
to
clarify
this,
I'm
totally
in
favor
of
affordable
housing.
F
However,
the
mention
of
this
fund
could
be
applied
to
affordable
housing
is
the
intent
that
I
mean.
Affordability
is
energy
how
much
heating
and
electricity
costs,
so
if
what
we're
talking
about
is
making
it
feasible
for
habitat
for
humanity
or
a
not-for-profit,
affordable
housing
development
to
include
something
like
solar
panels
or
other
aspects,
better,
better
preparation
for
reducing
energy,
I
think,
is
great,
but
I
think
there
has
to
be
some
kind
of
climate
lens.
F
That's
included
in
the
consideration
of
affordable
housing
funding
was
that
the
intent.
D
Mr
chair,
it's
julie
here.
The
intent
is
for
any
application,
non-profit
or
charity
that
they
have
to
the
application
has
to
be
for
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
the
example
that
I
used
in
the
council
report
was
an
example
that
nonprofit
housing
they
would
be
building
to
building
code,
but
if
they
went
above
and
beyond
that
with
some
type
of
new
resource
or
with
focus
on
renewable
energy
that
they'd
be
eligible
for
that.
D
B
Counselor
dougherty
and
then
mr
dayton
had
a
question
as
well:
okay,.
G
I
just
wondered
if,
if,
if
we've
already
heard
of
some
groups
that
might
be
interested
in
implying
and
if
there's
already
a
little
bit
of
uptake
or
how
much
we
have
to
actually
go
and
try
to
find
groups,
I
know
I
think
the
pandemic
might
have
taken
some
wind
out
of
the
sales
a
little
bit.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
we're
feeling
optimistic
that
we're
going
to
have
a
good
kind
of
number
of
applications.
D
Yes,
for
you,
mr
chair,
always
with
the
first
round
of
any
type
of
applications
or
fundraising
or
awards,
etc.
There's
always
a
we
need
to
do
that.
Push
to
get
organizations
to
submit
projects.
D
I
do
know
of
a
few
that
will
be
submitting
applications
but,
as
I
indicated
earlier,
you
can
reach
out
to
your
networks
of
non-profit
and
charities
and
if
they
have
any
questions,
certainly
forward
them
to
me
or
have
them
call
me
directly
and
we
can
dave,
and
I
can
certainly
help
if
they
have
questions
on
the
submission
and
what
we're
looking
for
great.
G
Thanks
and
just
one
more
question-
and
I
might
have
said
this
in
the
report-
but
I
don't
recall
so
what
would
be
the
first
question
for
any
group
is:
how
much
do
you
think
we
can
get
so
what
what
would
be
the
ceiling
of
a
is
of
funding.
D
Through
you,
mr
chair,
so
council,
when
they
approve
the
fund,
they
have,
they
approved
up
to
15
000,
to
match
the
equivalent
of
funds
raised
either
through
canada,
helps
or
through
the
credit
union.
As
I
indicated
earlier,
the
credit
union
themselves
has
they
will
match
up
to
five
thousand
dollars
or
in
branch
donations.
D
So
even
if
we
can
leverage
those
that
would
be
a
nice
sum
for
the
first
round,
so
I
really
don't
know
what
the
uptake
will
be.
Certainly,
when
we
get
to
you
know
november,
we
will
start
the
campaign
for
donations.
It's
a
good
time
of
year,
where
people
may
be
thinking
to
you
know,
donate
in
someone's
name
etc.
D
So
we
will
be
really
pushing
it
starting
in
november
and
over
december,
and
then
we
will
do
some
really
big
campaigns
as
well.
Working
with
canada
helps
when
we
the
day
that
we
propose
to
launch
is
giving
tuesday,
so
that
is
their
biggest
day
of
donation.
So
when
we
were
meeting
with
them
earlier
this
week,
dave-
and
I
the
the
the
director
of
canada,
helps-
was
quite
pleased
that
we
were
looking
at
that
date
that
we
had
not.
We
knew
giving
tuesday
was
coming,
but
we
didn't
realize
it
was
that
day.
D
So
the
projects
himself
people
will
be
able
to
donate
specifically
to
those
projects
in
the
application
form.
It
has
indicated
that
you
may
need
additional
funding
for
your
project
and,
if
not
enough,
funds
are
erased
for
the
donations
that
your
project
will
not
be
able
to
be
proceed
and
those
donations
will
go
to
another
project,
so
the
applicants
will
be
very
well
aware
when
they
do
apply
and
the
project
is
chosen
that
they
will
need
additional
funding
to
support
their
project.
G
Okay,
and
so
then,
but
and
but
also
each
group
will
know
that
if
they
can
help
get
people
to
donate
that'll
help
their
cause
too.
Everybody
will
be
part
of
the.
I
guess,
since
the
creating
a
sense
of
excitement
and
talking
about
climate
change
as
well
in
action.
D
Absolutely
art
we
anticipate
as
well,
so
whatever
the
project
may
be
that
you
know
the
city
will
be
doing
the
promotion
and
marketing
the
credit
union
will
be.
But
in
addition,
whatever
those
non-profits
are,
they
have
huge
networks
that
they'll
be
able
to
campaign
with,
as
well
as,
like
you
indicated,
where
they'll
be
able
to
donate
to
the
projects.
H
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
chair.
My
question
was
primarily
about
the
matching
funding
which
counselor
dority
asked
thanks
for
responding
to
that,
it
sounds
like
primarily,
the
function
of
keith
in
november
would
be
to,
I
guess,
see
who
passes
the
bar
in
terms
of
eligibility
and
those
three
broad
sort
of
eligibility
criteria
being
within
the
you
know,
a
non-profit
within
the
city
boundary
a
scope
of
work
that
could
be
completed
within
12
months
and
and
projects
that
have
measurable
greenhouse
gas
gas
reductions.
H
So
it's
am
I
right
that
we're
essentially
screening
purely
for
eligibility
or
is
it
is
it
anticipated
that
we'd
actually
have
some
sort
of
ranking
or
recommendations
of
priorities
or
anything
along
those
lines?
Or
is
it
just
simply,
these
ones
should
be
eligible
and,
and
they
move
forward.
D
After
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
will
answer
then
that
I
can
pass
it
over
to
dave
as
well
if
he
wants
to
add
to
this,
so
really
it's
difficult
at
this
time.
If
we
receive
you
know
a
few
and
they
all
meet
the
eligibility
criteria,
then
they
may
all
be.
You
know
approved
for
donation
campaign
this
year.
D
If
we
received
a
number
of
applications,
then
it's
anticipated
that
keith
would
not
only
review
them
for
eligibility,
but
then
rank
them
like
these
ones
go
above
and
beyond,
or
if
you
know
their
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
there
may
be
that
opportunity
as
well
to
to
rank
them
and
because,
certainly
if
we,
you
know,
receive
10
projects,
those
we
can't
place
all
those
on
for
donations,
so
we
would
rank
them
and
choose
them.
I
don't
know
if
dave
wants
to
add
to
this.
E
Yes,
thank
you.
I,
mr
negan,
I
think
you
know
at
the
base
level
you're
right,
it's
primarily
applying
the
eligibility
criteria
and
while
it
may
seem
straightforward,
I
can
tell
you
from
about
four
years
experiencing
water
region
running
the
sustainability
fund
there
it's
not
like
when
you
get
the
applications,
you
may
have
to
read
them
a
couple
times
and
really
make
some
judgment
calls.
Some
are
straightforward.
E
There
may
be
some
discretion
for
council
of
where
they
apply
the
matching
funds,
so
maybe
donors
may
favor
one
project
over
the
other.
So
if
we
had
some
informal
feedback
from
this
committee
on
projects
that
this
committee
felt
had
greater
merit,
we
could
factor
that
into
any
recommendations
we
have
about
where
those
matching
components
are
because
we
may
have
some
greater
council
may
have
some
greater
discretion
where
that
fifteen
thousand
dollars
goes
to
if
one
project
seems
somewhat
neglected
but
has
very
high
merit.
Maybe
it's
directed
in
that
regard.
A
B
I
Yeah,
I
did
have
a
question
about
if
there
was
a
maximum
number
of
projects
that
we
could
become
approved,
but
I
think
that
was
just
answered.
So
thank
you.
J
I
do
thank
you.
I've
actually
got
a
couple
one's
probably
fairly
simple.
Does
the
city
have
any
vision
of
how
long
they
think
this
program
might
run
for
so
obviously
we're
gonna
go
for
one
year,
but
is
this
a
five
year
out
thing?
Is
this
a
ten
year
program.
D
Thank
you
after
you,
mr
chair,
we
anticipate
that
the
fund
will
be
continuous.
We
will
be
reporting
back
to
council
after
the
first
round.
There
may
be
some
minor
changes
that
we
need
to
look
at
after
we.
We
take
it
through
this
inaugural
launch,
etc,
but
it's
anticipated
from
the
approval
council
that
we
will
be
continuing
with
the
fund.
J
Okay,
thank
you
secondary
question.
Is,
I
guess
something
around
how
the
donor
votes
count.
J
D
I
threw
mr
chair
so
the
way
the
donors
will
donate
on
our
platform
is
that
they
will
donate
to
a
specific
project.
So,
like
you
said
the
money,
if
they
want
project
a,
they
will
donate
to
project
a.
But
within
our
report
to
council,
there
may
be
a
project
b
that
does
not
receive
the
funds
that
they
needed
to
proceed
with
their
project.
D
So
within
our
application
and
the
agreement
that
we
will
have
with
the
project
recipients
is
that
if
they
do
not
receive
enough
of
the
funds
to
proceed
with
their
project,
that
money
will
be
taken
from
project
b
and
might
be
dispersed
between
project
a
and
project
c.
But
certainly
the
donor
will
and
they
will
be
aware
of
that
as
well.
The
donor,
when
they
donate
that
you
know
you're
donated
project
a,
but
if
they
don't
receive
enough
money,
your
money
may
be
moved
to
another
project.
J
Okay,
so
there's
no
there's
no
guarantee
that
my
hundred
dollars
is
gonna,
go
to
a
I
can
vote
for
a,
but
if,
if
a
doesn't
quite
fit
the
bill,
my
hundred
dollars
is
still
going
to
go
into
the
fund
and
and
will
be
dispersed.
D
After
you,
mr
chair,
so
the
when
the
projects
are
submitted,
they
do
need
to
provide
a
budget
template
that
will
indicate
that
they
here's
the
money
that
they
are
requesting,
but
that
they
do
have
additional
funds
in
place.
But
yes,
as
you
indicated,
if
by
chance-
and
we
had
to
look
at
all
scenarios-
and
hopefully
that
won't
happen,
but
I
mean
when
we
worked
with
our
director
of
finance.
That
was
wonderful
questions.
What,
if
project
a
doesn't
receive
the
money?
D
C
A
Including
all
the
donations,
I
have
a
little
bit
of
familiarity
with
with
how
canada
helps
work,
I'm
the
treasurer
for
the
land
conservancy
for
kfla,
and
just
it's
been
my
observation
that
that
some
donors
either
forget
to
put
a
designation
or
a
vote,
so
they
they
just
say,
here's
a
hundred
dollars
and
and
our
board
and
and
sometimes
the
board
the
receiver
doesn't
know
who
the
donor
is
through.
Canada
helps
it,
it
can
be
done
anonymously.
A
So
we
we
we've,
made
a
decision
to
put
all
of
those
donations
into
a
general
fund
that
the
board
can
vote
on,
and
but
if
a
donor
specifically
says
it's
for
land
acquisition,
we
we
are
obliged
to
use
it
for
land
acquisition
or
or
another
purpose,
such
as
stewardship
funds
or
or
whatever.
So
my
experience
is
that
there
are
some
donations.
A
A
I'd
mention
that,
because
that's
been
my
experience,
that
voters
aren't
as
as
categorical
as
as
you
would
think
and
the
second
question,
I
guess
it
comes
more
for
trying
to
understand
receding,
because
canada
helps
automatically
generates
a
receipt,
a
tax
deduction
receipt,
so
there's
no
need
for
a
donation
coming
through
canada
helps
to
be
re-received
by
the
city.
D
Through
mr
chair,
no,
they
will
be
receded
through
canada
helps
and
then
the
the
money
itself
will
be
put
into
city.
Kingston
bank
account
the
credit
union.
They
will
be
receding
on
on
behalf
of
the
city
when
people
come
into
their
branches,
but
we
will
not
be
doing
double
receiving
no
okay.
A
Okay,
so
it
so
the
receipt
doesn't
come
from
the
city
itself.
Okay,
that's
that's
clear!
Okay,
and
did
I
get
those
dates
right
that
the
close
is
october,
7th
and
then
or
sorry
did
I,
whatever
october
yeah
october
7th
and
then
there's
a
meeting
on
november
9th
that
keith
will
get
to
see
all
these
proposals
is
that
correct.
D
D
We
staff
dave
and
I
will
be
putting
together
a
summary
and
a
report
for
keefe
and
that
will
be
coming
to
keep
when
you
receive
your
agenda
the
week
before
your
keith
meeting
and
you'll
be
receiving
the
submissions
at
that
time
for
evaluation,
and
then
it's
anticipated
at
the
keith
meeting
on
november
9th
that
keith
would
be
in
a
position
to
review
your
evaluations
and
your
criteria
and
recommend
to
council
what
projects
will
proceed
this
year.
A
Okay
thanks
one
another
question:
I
have
it
and
that's
that
canada
helps
withholds
four
percent
of
the
donation
or
their
costs,
and
is
there
any
consideration
of
of
maybe
the
city
topping
up
that
four
percent
sort
of
making
up
that
that
difference?
It's
it
may
seem
like
a
small
amount,
but
a
donation
of
a
thousand
dollars.
You
know
it's
it's
40
off
the
top,
so
I
I
just
would
wondered
what
you
thought
of
that.
D
Yes
through
you,
mr
chair,
absolutely
so
when
we
had
a
the
motion
of
counsel
when
they
approved
the
the
donation
fund,
they
approved
from
an
operating
cost
of
ten
thousand
dollars
that
will
cover
the
cost
of
that
admin
fee.
So
when
an
individual
donates
the
hundred
dollars
it
kind
of
helps
they
take.
I
think
it's
three
point.
D
Seven
five
percent,
but
when
the
the
money
is
disbursed
to
the
city
from
canada
helps,
we
will
then
balance
it
out
and
the
donation
of
a
hundred
dollars
will
be
a
donation
of
a
hundred
dollars.
C
A
Okay,
thanks,
I
think
that's
all
I
had
was
questions
so
dave
I'll,
take
back
the
chair.
Maybe
I'm
sorry
you're
having
so
much
fun
with
it.
G
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
I
just
was
wondering
you
just
kind
of
you
questioned
just
then
roger
just
brought
out
the
timing
of
october
7th,
that's
not
a
very
long
time,
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
onerous
the
actual
application
is
and
how
detailed
and
the
submissions
have
to
be
like
sometimes
for
non-profits.
They
have
to
jump
through
all
sorts
of
hoops
to
try
to
get
any
kind
of
funds.
So
just
wonder
how
complicated
we
may
have
made
it
or
how
you
know
a
little
bit
more
about
the
actual
application.
D
Yes,
through
you
and
mr
chair,
so
we
try
to
make
the
application
form
as
simple
and
as
easy
to
process
as
possible
for
one
they
can
do
it
online.
It's
met
online,
there's
a
budget
template,
but
it
lays
out
exactly
what
we're
looking
for.
So
I
don't
believe,
that's
a
hindrance,
so
the
the
campaign
itself
will
have
run
for
a
month,
and
certainly
you
know
if
we
haven't
received
any
we'll,
have
to
look
to
see
if
we
can
extend
it
a
week,
but
we're
hoping
through
our
campaign
and
community
communications.
D
We
have
it
on
the
radio
next
week
dave
and
I
have
been
working
this
week
reaching
out
to
some
of
the
network
and
stakeholders
that
we
are
aware
of
and,
as
I
said
I
do
know,
there
will
be
a
few
that
we'll
be
submitting
it's
always
hard
the
first
year
to
to
to
get
that
out
there
and
and
to
build
that
momentum.
D
A
G
C
G
F
Just
quickly,
I
know
there
was
a
comment.
I
think
it
was
from
dave
earlier
about
whether
this
would
end
up
just
being
a
one-year
plan.
I
know
in
other
communities
where
they've
established
green
funds,
climate
action
funds-
I
don't
know
of
any
that
died
on
the
vine
after
one
year
and
the
fact
and
julie
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
fact
is
that
we
will
just
be
at
the
beginning
of
this
process
when
we
start
our
budget
deliberations
and
there's
been
a
commitment
to
put
some
budget
money
into
next
year
is
budget.
F
B
Mr
chair,
mr
elliott
had
a
question
and
I
believe
mr
arnold
has
one
and
it's
not.
I
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
is
a
follow-up
to
david's
question
earlier.
Perhaps
I'm
not
fully
understanding
the
voting
process,
but
when
a
donor
votes
on
a
project
is
there
vote
proportional
to
the
size
of
donation
or
is
the
one
donation?
One
vote
type
of
system.
D
Through
you,
mr
chair,
so
the
projects
that
will
be
approved
by
council
will
be
on
our
project
page
and
there
will
be
a
description
of
what
the
project
is
and
it
and
then
you'll
be
able
to
read
each
other.
On
this
first
simplicity.
We
have
three
projects
this
year
and
there'll,
be
a
summary
of
project,
a
project
b
and
project
c
and
beside
each
of
those
projects
to
make
it
simple
and
simplify
the
process
for
people
who
are
going
to
donate
they
there
will
be
a
donate
button
beside
each
of
those
projects.
D
K
Hey
thanks
very
much
apologies
if
I,
this
was
already
covered,
and
I
missed
it,
I'm
just
I'm
curious
with
the
with
the
applications.
If,
if,
if
the
committee
has
questions
regarding
the
application
or
requires
some
sort
of
clarification
based
on
how
the
application
was
worded,
is
there
an
opportunity
for
keefe
to
inquire
with
the
applicant
to
get
those
clarifications,
or
is
it
just
strictly
based
on
what
they
submit?
K
And
if
it's
just
lacking
in
detail
and
the
committee
decides
that
it's
just
there's
not
enough
information
to
go
on
that
that
it
sort
of
goes
in
a
different
direction
in
terms
of
the
projects
they're
looking
to
approve,
I
just
wouldn't
want
to
see
any
valuable
or
valid
projects,
unfortunately,
dismissed,
simply
because
they
weren't
submitted
with
enough
information.
D
So
we
will
anticipate
and
and
get
the
projects
to
keef
before
we
have
our
report
to
you.
So
when
it
closes
on
october
the
7th
we
will
work
to
have
the
the
projects
to
the
members
of
keefe,
two
at
least
two
weeks
prior
to
the
keith
meeting.
So
you
may
receive
your
agenda.
You
know
the
week
before,
but
we'll
we
will
work
to
get
you
the
project,
applications
at
least
two
weeks
prior
and
to
ensure
transparency.
D
I
would
recommend
that
if
individual
members
of
keith
have
questions
of
the
projects
that
you
funnel
them
through
james
and
then
he
can
send
them
to
me,
and
I
can
reach
out
to
the
applicants
and
say
we
have
received
questions.
Can
you
provide
me
the
questions
and
I
can
provide
them
to
all
members
of
keefe?
At
the
same
time,.
A
Okay,
any
other
comments.
A
Okay,
if
I
can
just
add
I,
I
think
this
is
terrific
and
be
very
excited
to
see
this
happen.
So
congratulations
for
doing
this.
A
Thanks,
okay,
can
we
move
on
any
in
any
last
minute,
while
we
have
our
participants.
A
L
Thank
you
over
to
you.
Thank
you.
I
don't
have
a
formal
presentation
or
anything
and
and
really
this
update
is,
is
relatively
brief,
because
there's
not
too
much
to
share,
but
in
terms
of
where
we
are
with
the
state
of
the
environment
report,
we
have
received
detailed
review
comments
from
the
air
and
climate
group
and
from
the
water
and
waste
group.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
comments
are
all
excellent.
L
We
don't
have
comments
yet
back
for
the
land
and
biodiversity
group,
but
I
understand
mr
chair,
that
those
will
be
forthcoming.
Correct.
A
Yes,
I'm
I'm
falling
on
my
sword
here,
being
a
participant
in
that
group
and
being
being
one
of
the
slowest
slowest
members
of
the
convoy,
and
I
think
catherine
has
also
been
really
busy
with
teaching
as
a
crazy
time
of
year,
so
we
will
try
to
get
those
in.
I
I
mentioned
to
you
friday.
I
don't
know
if
that's
doable
for
the
others,
but
I
just
picked
a
day
that
seemed
reasonable.
A
I
understood
you
were
you
were
busy
with
with
another
project
and-
and
I
hope
your
your
desk
is
clearing
up
a
little
bit.
It
is
starting
to
it.
L
Is
starting
to
clear
up
now,
mr
chair,
thank
you.
As
many
people
might
be
aware,
the
planning
committee
dealt
with
the
amendments
to
our
brownfield
cip
that
were
addressed
with
respect
to
the
the
former
tannery
property.
So
that
was
a
sizable
piece
of
work
for
us,
but
anyways
the
state
of
the
environment
review
comments.
L
I
will
take
the
opportunity
actually
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
if
I
may
just
for
clarification
from
the
water
group,
one
of
their
main
comments
was
to
incorporate
the
provincial
stream
water
quality
data
and
that's
that's
a
great,
a
great
comment,
and
we
have
that
data.
Now,
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how
the
group
feels
about
what
kind
of
parameters
we
should
focus
in
on
I'm
thinking.
L
Probably
phosphorus
is
probably
the
one
of
the
better
ones
to
to
indicate
an
human
cause
impacts
to
the
water
quality,
but
I
would
like
to
put
that
to
the
water
group
and
ask
them
if,
if
they
would
concur
with
that
or
if
they
would
want
something
different.
L
I
think
I
think
mr
dakin
and
well
tabson
lang's
not
here
tonight,
but
those
are
the
the
names
I
remember
from
the
group.
J
H
Okay,
so
through
to
you,
mr
chair
yeah,
paul
that
that
phosphorus
is
is
bang
on
it.
That's
the
one
that
stands
out
for
me.
If,
if
we
can
pull
anything
out
of
that,
I
think
in
terms
of
state
of
the
environment,
phosphorus
is
probably
the
most
meaningful.
H
I
know
there's
other
things
turbidity
not
jumping
out
at
me.
Actually.
H
Which
yeah
chlorides
that
sort
of
thing
but
yeah
it?
If
nothing
else
phosphorus
for
sure,
if
it
seems
like
there's
enough
information
there.
L
I
want
to
make
it
meaningful,
so
it
something
that
has
a
the
most
or
the
closest
association
with
with
pollution
from
you
know,
land
use
and
so
forth.
L
L
Good
and
also
while
you're,
while
you're
unmuted,
you
also
provided
a
comment
about
incorporating
groundwater
information
from
the
provincial
groundwater
quality
monitoring
network.
And
I
I
have
that
data
set.
But
I
don't
see
any
monitoring
wells
within
the
boundary
of
kingston.
I'm
not
sure.
If
you're
aware
of
any
or.
H
So
I
think
the
closest
actually
is
there
used
to
be
one
in
loyalist
township
and
then
you'd
be
looking
at
south
front.
Next,
so
certainly
is
within
front
county
and
adjacent
municipalities,
but
you
may
be
right
that
there's
actually
none
within
the
municipal
boundaries.
If
and
if
that's
the
case,
then
then.
L
No
problem
at
all-
and
the
last
question
I
wanted
to
bring
up
is
there
was
a
comment
about
including
spill
data,
not
just
from
city
of
kingston's
spill
responses,
but
from
the
spills
action,
ontario
spills
action
center,
their
data
set,
that's
available,
runs
to
2013,
and
so
mr
arnott,
I
was
wondering
if,
if
you
had
any
insight
into
how
best
to
get
more
recent
data
sets
from
spills
action.
K
K
Yeah
yeah,
let
why
don't
we
we
can
talk
offline
on
that
paul?
The
data
is
certainly
there
how
how
labor
intensive
it
would
be
to
get
the
data
that
you're
looking
for
I'm
not
sure,
and
that
would
impact
obviously
the
the
length
of
time
it
would
take
to
get
the
data.
So
we
can.
K
We
could
certainly
talk
offline
on
that
and
try
to
scope
it
a
little
bit
and
then
I
can
take
that
to
our
skills
action
center
and
see
see
what's
what's
doable
in
terms
of
generating
some
sort
of
report.
For
the
you
know,
the
the
geographical
area
that
the
city's
in
perfect.
L
So
I'll
I'll
send
you
an
email
tomorrow,
and
maybe
we
can
follow
up
on
that.
K
Sounds
good
and
while
I've
well,
I've
got
the
the
mic
here
as
well.
If
you
also
certainly
with
respect
to
the
surface
water
quality
monitoring,
that's
something
you
know.
I
can
certainly
get
you
in
touch
with
victor
castro
or
one
of
our
other
surface
water
scientists
in
terms
of
sort
of
scoping,
the
parameter
list
to
look
at
the
ones
that
would
best
represent
the
the
focus
of
the
report.
If
you'd
like
as
well.
L
Excellent
thanks.
So
that's
that
is
the
update
on
the
state
of
the
environment
report.
Once
I
receive
the
rest
of
the
review
comments
from
the
land
and
biodiversity
group
that
I
can
proceed
to
incorporating
the
next
into
the
next
draft,
which
will
come
to
either
the
next
keith
meeting
or
when
it's
when
it's
available.
J
Yeah
thanks
paul.
Can
you
just
touch
base
with
miss
lange
about
the
phosphorus,
because
I
I
think,
mr
jacob,
I
think
I
think
she
had
some
input
on
that
and
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
miss
the
opportunity
for
you
to
reach
out
to
her
just
to
confirm
that
phosphorus
is
the
one
that
she
wants
in
that
in
that
area
and
she
she
might
have
some
other
suggestions
before
we
leave
that
one.
A
And
and
while
we
still
have
david
arnot
on
the
line,
I
had
a
question
about
our.
We
came
up
with
our
discussion
about
land
and
it
had
to
do
with
sort
of
spills
that
that,
if
that
would
contaminate
land-
and
I
I
think
the
the
answer
was
there
are
there-
there
have
been
none
reported
recently.
So
is
that
is
that
true,
and
in
which
case
that's
great
but
is?
Is
that
a
a
situation
that
that
is
rare
enough?
That
it's
not
worth
incorporating
in
some
kind
of
measuring
document?.
K
Yeah,
that
was
rachel,
and
I
touched
on
that
when
we
spoke
a
little
a
little
ways
ago.
It's
really
it's
depe.
Certainly
the
city
would
have
data
on
any
spills
that
have
been
reported
from
sort
of
city
infrastructure.
There
would
also
be
a
a
considerable
number
of
spills.
K
I
suspect
that
would
have
been
reported
from
private
entities
to
land
or
water
and
the
difficulty
with
that
will
be
in
terms
of
the
relevance
for
your
working
group
and
the
report
would
be
the
scoping,
the
the
type
of
spill
that
you'd
want
to
see,
because
you
know
we'll
get
people
that
report
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution
and
will
report.
K
You
know
a
liter
of
gasoline
spilled
at
a
gas
station,
and
that
goes
in
as
a
formal
spill
report
to
the
ministry
likely
not
a
situation
or
an
incident,
that's
terribly
relevant
in
terms
of
the
state
of
the
environment
for
the
city
of
kingston.
K
So
I
think,
when
rachel
and
I
had
talked
it
was
sort
of
discussed
about,
you
know
making
some
sort
of
acknowledgement
that
spills
are
reported
or
have
been
reported,
and-
and
this
is
where
you
know-
if
the
public
would
like
additional
information.
This
is
where
they
could.
They
could
get
it
or
here's
the
contact
information,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
sort
of
scope
down
the
the
myriad
spills
reports
that
we
would
have
to
the
ones
that
are
most
relevant
to
the
report.
A
Okay,
thanks
yeah,
I
I'm
glad
you
you,
you
and
rachel
have
already
talked
about
it,
so
I'm
sorry
to
bring
it
up
if,
if
it's
already
been
covered,
the
the
other
well,
okay,
the
the
only
some
of
the
questions
I
have
for
we
can
deal
with
within
our
group
and
get
them
to
you
paul.
L
Mr
sheriff,
I
could
make
one
last
comment:
yeah,
and
that
was
respect
to
the
formatting
and
presentation
of
the
report.
Once
we
have
the
once,
we
have
the
draft
report
done
and
you
know
substantially
accepted
by
keith
for
content.
L
Then
we
will
move
to
work
with
our
communications
group
to
to
develop
the
the
appearance
and
format
of
the
report
and
that's,
as
we
discussed
mr
chair,
that's
where
we
would
like
another
sub
working
group
or
whatever.
We
want
to
call
it
to
assist
us
with
that.
A
Yeah-
that's
that's
great,
I
think
that's
a
few
of
our
members
have
mentioned
that
they
would.
They
would
be
interested
in
being
involved
in
that
so
so
that'd
be
that'd,
be
terrific,
okay.
Seeing
no
other
comments
on
that
we'll
just
move
along.
Are
there
any
motions
or
notices
of
motion.
C
A
Okay,
so
we've
got
our
next
meeting
scheduled
for
november
9th.
That
should
give
us
time
to
to
get
to
get
cracking
on
on
this
new
new
proposal
and
finish
up
our
our
state
of
the
environment
input
so
that'd
be
great.
A
All
right
look
at
the
hands
go
up
all
right.
I
think
I
think
that
qualifies
as
a
unanimous
vote
for
germa,
thanks
very
much
james
and
and
and
dave
roway
nice
to
meet
you
on
on
the
zoom
call
and
and
julie
salter
keen
I
don't.
I
don't
see
her
name
there
anymore
so
anyway,
thanks
very
much
for
your
input
and
thanks
everybody
good
night
good
night.
Thank.