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From YouTube: Kingston, Ontario Environment, Infrastructure and Transportation Policies Committee - April 12, 2022
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Environment, Infrastructure and Transportation Policies Committee meeting from April 12, 2022. For full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3JBSi8X
A
B
A
So,
mr
chair,
we
can,
I
can
get
started
and
then
they
may
may
join
us
here
at
some
point.
If
that's
okay,
so
I
can
again,
I
confirm
we
do
a
quorum
with
counselor
dougherty,
counselor
holland,
not
currently
with
us
with
staff.
We
have
peter
hugginboss,
commissioner
of
business,
environment
and
projects,
brad
joyce,
commissioner
transportation
and
public
works.
A
Derek
o'shea
committee
clerk,
karen
santucci,
director
of
public
works
and
solid
waste
and
more
staff
may
join
us
as
we
get
going,
and
we
do
have
a
number
of
delegations
with
us
this
evening
as
well,
and
currently
we
have
six
members
of
the
public
in
the
gallery
with
us
too.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you,
mr
chair.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
see
that
counselor
daughter
has
joined
us
as
well.
So
I
I'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order
with
the
approval
of
the
agenda
and
will
include
the
addendum
with
that
approval.
So
who
would
like
to
move
who
would
like
to
second
councillor
sanik
and
councillor
dougherty,
all
those
in
favor
carried?
B
B
C
C
I
said
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
a
pop-up
park
is
a
temporary
park,
typically
located
in
urban
areas.
They
can
be
thought
of
as
like
a
pilot
park
which
lend
the
idea
of
a
green
space
to
a
community
member
or
to
community
members
to
incentivize.
To
advocate
for
increased
permanent
green
space
in
parkland
in
their
community.
C
Within
our
pop-up
park.
We
intend
to
implement
a
community
garden.
The
community
garden
is
intended
to
sit
in
metal
planters
throughout
the
green
space
and
provide
fresh
produce
to
the
community
through
public
access
and
community
organizations
accessing
and
utilizing
the
produce
as
well
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
C
So
we
were
inspired
by
the
previous
success
of
journey
house
and
loving
spoonful
two
people,
two
organizations
we
have
worked
very
closely
with
throughout
our
time.
Taking
this
course
they've
been
successful
in
implementing
multiple
community
gardens
in
kingston
and
scattered
throughout
the
community,
and
they
have
been
successful
in
addressing
food
insecurity
and
increasing
community
engagement
through
through
such.
E
All
right,
so
the
details
of
our
project
are
as
follows.
Like
holly
mentioned
earlier,
it
is
a
pop-up
park
to
aid
in
increasing
green
space
and
parkland
in
the
williamsville
area,
with
an
implementation
of
a
community
garden,
the
location
is
to
be
along
the
williamsville
and
princess
street
corridor.
E
F
So
when
it
comes
to
why
having
pop-up
park
and
community
garden
in
williamsville,
there
are
four
reasons.
First
of
all,
williamswell
has
the
lowest
allotment
of
parkland
in
the
city
of
kingston.
Therefore,
it
is
important
to
implement
and
increase
the
amount
of
parkland
and
green
space
in
the
community
area.
Second,
green
space
also
offers
mental
health
benefits,
which
improves
mental
health
well-being
among
community
members.
The
third
reason
is
that
community
gardens
increase
community
engagement,
because
community
members
share
a
common
goal.
F
B
G
C
So
we,
when
we've
chatted
with
loving
spoonful
and
journey
house
we've
had
the
same
question,
come
up
and
they
kind
of
posted
as
if
anyone
is
taking
things
that
are
maybe
viewed
as
vandalism.
It's
because
they
really
do
need
the
produce,
so
they
do
use
the
the
vegetables.
Well,
anything
that
is
taken
from
the
gardens
are
always
used
respectfully,
and
it
might
not
be
like
within
our
intended
partnerships
or
something
like
that,
but
it's
always
used
by
community
members
who
really
do
require
it
or
rely
on
it.
C
So
there
have
been
really
no
issues.
They've
said
of
vandalism
and
they've
also
suggested
kind
of
just
creating
like
signs
just
explaining
why
we
have
the
community
gardens
there.
What
the
intention
is
and
how
they
can
use
them
respectfully
has
been
really
helpful
to
to
tool
to
mitigate
any
vandalism.
E
E
And
it
was
a
popular
alleyway
where
there
was
a
lot
of
motion
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
they
found
that
because
people
were
able
to
give
back
to
the
community
and
reap
the
benefits
directly,
that
there
was
less
vandalism
and
that
people
were
more
inclined
to
support
and
protect
the
garden
rather
than
steal
from
it
or
vandalize.
The
area.
G
That's
great
to
hear,
because
I
know
we've
had
some
big
vandalism
happen
out
in
the
west
end,
and
so
I
got
my
fingers
crossed
that
everything
goes
well
with
this.
I
think
you
said
it
would
be
raised.
Bed
containers,
correct
and
so
are.
Are
we
talking
like
raised
bed
made
out
of
wood
or
is
it
again?
Is
it
like
some
sort
of
structure
that
I
guess
it
would
be
too
heavy
to
steal,
but
is
it
going
to
be
like
raised
beds
made
out
of
wood.
E
Some
of
them
will
be
made
out
of
woods
and
I
believe
that
we
were
working
with
ayla
who
will
be
able
to
help
us
receive
planters.
But
we
wanted
to
incorporate
the
idea
of
raised
beds
so
that
it
could
be
accessible
for
people
of
different
styles
if
they
can
incorporate
any
extra
like
accessible
equipment
that
they
have
to
help
mobility
issues
and
that
sort
of
thing.
H
B
I
Okay,
so
hello,
everyone,
my
name
is
robert
macleod
and
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
about
the
true
value
of
trees.
Next
slide,
please
so
just
a
quick
introduction.
I
used
to
be
a
student
at
kcvi,
I'm
currently
studying
civil
engineering
at
mcgill,
I'm
passionate
about
the
environment
and
equity,
and
hopefully
you
enjoy
the
photos
in
this
presentation
next
slide.
I
Please
so
there's
three
main
topics
that
I'm
going
to
talk
about
with
regards
to
the
canopy
report,
because,
of
course,
we've
seen
the
canopy
report,
hopefully
you've
all
seen
it
and
there's
some
things
that
maybe
they
didn't
really
touch
on
in
terms
of
what
we
can
get
from
trees
in
the
city.
Next
slide,
please.
I
So
the
first
thing
that
trees
can
do
beyond
what's
being
listed
on
the
canopy
report
is
that
they
can
combat
urban
conditions.
So,
of
course,
urban
city
is
quite
harsh
on
our
sensibilities,
but
the
trees
can
help
us
mitigate,
for
example,
the
urban
heat
island
effect,
which
of
course,
is
worsening
with
the
increasing
temperatures
across
the
globe.
It
can
also
absorb
noise
and
reduce
noise
pollution
and
along
pollutants
out
of
the
air.
They
can
also
reduce
particulate
matter
from
the
air
which
makes
it
easier
for
us
to
breathe
next
slide.
Please.
I
The
second
part
that
the
trees
can
have
an
impact
on
is
our
mental
health.
There's
been
many
much
much
research.
That's
been
done
into
this,
so,
for
example,
trees
can
help
lower
rates
of
anxiety,
stress
and
depression
being
near
green
spaces,
and
such
there
have
been
research
showing
that
crime
rates
are
lower
in
places
that
are
well
treed
and
there's
also
been
lots
of
research
done
in
terms
of
what
the
rates
of
car
accidents
and
using
trees
as
traffic
comments
on
the
sides
of
the
roads.
Next
slide.
Please
and
the
third
part.
I
I
think
this
is
probably
the
most
important
part-
is
to
start
thinking
about,
maybe
a
different
way
of
considering
our
trees
in
the
city,
because
they're
not
just
a
number
in
the
balance
sheet.
They're,
not
just
you,
know
kind
of
collect
carbon,
but
they
also
give
the
city
character.
They
are
a
very
important
part
of
the
way
that
we
experience
the
city
and
they
should
be
considered
just
as
important
as
the
humans
in
the
city
as
they
are
citizens
here
as
well.
I
They
provide
a
sense
of
place
and
they're
really
an
essential
piece
of
urban
and
ecological
infrastructure,
and
I
think
humans
we
like
to
think
about
ourselves
as
being
outside
of
the
ecosystem,
but
ultimately
we
are
living
creatures.
We
are
a
part
of
the
city's
ecosystem
and
a
strong
ecosystem
really
ensures
the
health
of
all
of
its
inhabitants,
and
we
can
improve
that
ecosystem
strength
by
increasing
biodiversity
and
just
having
more
life
around
next
slide.
Please
so
something
that
we
can
think
about
in
terms
of
the
effects
of
especially
biodiversity
is
the
microbiome.
I
So
microbiome
is
basically
the
collection
of
life
and
cells
and
bacteria
that
we
are
exposed
to
on
a
daily
basis,
and
this
microbiome
has
a
really
strong
impact
on
the
health
of
us,
both
mentally
and
physically.
There's
been
lots
of
research
done
into
that
as
well,
and
so,
if
we
think
about
you
know,
maybe
the
city's
very
dead
and
very
you
know
like
it's
very
concrete:
it's
not
a
lot
of
nature.
We're
not
really
going
to
be
getting
those
healthy
cells,
those
healthy
bacteria
that
we're
looking
for
in
a
biodiverse
environment.
I
So
it's
really
important
that
we
design
the
cities
towards
promoting
healthy
microbiomes
next
slide,
please!
This
is
a
nice
diagram
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we
could
think
about
like
in
the
future.
I
know
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
look
at
it,
but
we
there's
a
lot.
We
want
to
improve
like
human
interaction
with
nature,
because
that's
ultimately,
what's
going
to
impact,
how
strong
our
microbiome
is
next
slide,
please.
I
So
what
can
the
city
really
do
about
that?
Well,
hopefully,
you've
all
heard
about
the
33300
rule
by
now,
so
we
should
start
thinking
about
trees
as
tools
towards
improving
the
health
of
the
citizens
and,
of
course
we
want
to
improve
the
health
of
citizens
equitably.
So
with
the
city
should
be
thinking
about.
How
can
we
make
sure
that
those
light
green
colored
squares
on
the
canopy
report
is
getting
more
trees,
because
it's
really
important
for
those
citizens
to
have
that
health
benefit
as
well?
I
think
it's
also
really
valuable
for
the
city.
I
Of
course,
it's
still
going
to
be
expanding
to
grow
with
the
trees,
not
in
spite
of
them.
Hopefully,
you
took
the
time
to
read
that
quote
on
the
earlier
slide
that
cities,
trees
are
oldest
citizens,
they
create
lots
of
culture
and
they
create
that
strong
microbiome
strong
ecosystem,
which
is
really
valuable.
I
J
J
I've
often
thought
this
myself.
I
was
born
in
kingston
and-
and
there
are
many
trees
here
that
were
here
when
I
was
born
and
are
still
here
now
and
I
suppose
I
have
a
bit
of
a
relationship
with
some
of
them,
but
maybe
you
could
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
how
how
we
might
achieve
that
shift
in
perception
to
thinking
of
some
of
our
landmark
trees
as
having
personalities
and
being
citizens.
I
Oh
yeah,
so
I
think
it's
important
in
in
terms
of
thinking
about
like
how
we
want
to
preserve
our
trees.
That's
really
the
big
thing
is
because
we
we
could,
you
know,
cut
down
all
the
trees
and
plant
more
and
they
would
be.
They
would
be
able
to
sequester
lots
of
carbon
once
they
got
large
enough,
but
but
do
we
really
want
to
cut
down
all
of
those
historic
trees?
I
One
of
the
examples
that
I
like
to
make
is,
for
example,
victoria
park
in
downtown
kingston
or
city
park.
Those
tall
trees
really
give
that
park
a
lot
of
character
and
compared
to
some
newer
parks,
like
maybe
in
the
west,
end
newer
developments.
They
have
small
trees,
of
course,
they'll
grow
eventually,
but
those
historic
trees,
the
really
tall
ones
grown
ones
in
in
parks.
Are
you
know
they
give
the
city
its
character?
I
J
Indeed,
I
have
another
question
just
to
give
a
quick
comment
about
your
the
trees
having
being
citizens.
It
occurred
to
me
once
maybe
naming
trees
or
giving
trees
honorary
names
such
as
some
people
talk
about
grandmother,
trees
and
things
like
that
might
be
one
way
you
could
personify
individual
trees.
J
My
second
question
is
about
this
biome
concept:
I'd
like
you
to
elaborate
a
bit
more
on
that
so
so
ecosystem.
So
it
it.
If
you
study
biology,
you
understand
what
an
ecosystem
is,
but
is
it
is
a
city
not
specifically
kind
of
the
way
that
in
any
way,
the
way
that
cities
have
been
done?
The
last
couple
hundred
years,
removal
of
life
and
replacing
it
with
inanimate
objects,
isn't
that
sort
of
what
characterized
most
cities?
I
Yes,
so
that's
a
great
question:
it's
definitely
a
challenging
one
to
answer
in
terms
of
yes,
it's
true,
like
a
lot
of
cities
have
been
built
so
far
to
be.
You
know
really
eliminating
that
life
and
ultimately
there
is
a
strong
economic
incentive
for
that
as
well,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
just
because
we're
building
more
buildings
doesn't
mean
that
we
have
to
make
it
a
barren
wasteland,
we
can
still
incorporate
trees.
We
can
still
have
trees.
You
know,
I
think
really.
I
The
33300
rule
is
a
great
example,
so
you
can
see
three
trees
from
your
window.
You
can
it's.
You
have
30
canopy
cover
and
there's
a
quality
green
space
within
300
meters
from
where
you
live.
Those
are
pretty
attainable
goals
when
you
think
about
the
city
in
general.
Obviously
we
can't
expect
to
be
living
in
a
forest
tomorrow
or
something
like
that,
but
we
can,
but
there
definitely
are
things
that
we
can
do
to
promote
that
and
so
there's.
I
We
can
also
make
sure
that
we
have
parks
that
are
that
have
really
good
green
spaces
and
yeah
like,
for
example,
the
little
forest
project
which
I'm
sure
you've
heard
about
before
as
well
is,
is
a
great
example
of
developing
quality
green
spaces,
and
those
can
just
go
into
your
regular
everyday
park
if
you,
if
the
city
so
wishes,
so
promoting
it
that
way,
and
then
in
developments.
That
is
a
challenge
as
well
like
and
especially
with
preserving
trees.
I
There's
actually,
at
the
end
of
my
slides,
which
there's
like
a
little
bit
of
further
reading,
there's
like
a
few
links.
One
of
them
is
a
document,
quite
an
extensive
article
from
pennsylvania
state
university
about
how
construction
can
be
preserving
trees
a
little
bit
better.
I
didn't
read
through
like
the
whole
thing,
because
I
only
found
out
about
this
two
days
ago,
but
it
seemed
like
a
pretty
good
resource.
I'd
love
to
go
through
it
like
together,
but
I
know
we
don't
have
time
for
that.
G
Thank
you
for
you,
mr
chair
and
robert
thanks,
so
much
for
speaking
to
us,
and
we
know
that
you
must
be
in
the
middle
of
exams
and
because
you're
an
engineer,
your
exams
would
be
very
difficult
and
very
one
right
after
another.
So
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
see
us
today
and
great
to
hear
that
you're
from
kingston
and
with
your
you
said,
you're
in
civil
engineering
right
so
have
you
seen
like
have
some
of
your
classes
talked
about
trees
by
any
chance
and
and
how
to
get
along
with
trees?
G
I
Well,
I'm
actually
in
first
year,
so
I
haven't
had
a
lot
of
experience
still
going
through,
like
the
the
basic
general
chemistry
one
and
two,
but
but
I'll
I'll
get
there
eventually.
Hopefully,
there's
gonna
be
some
discussion
about
that.
It
would
be
great
if
not,
who
knows
maybe
I'll,
maybe
I'll,
reach
out
and
see
if
we
can
change
that.
I
G
I
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thanks
robert.
That
was
great,
so
I
this
picks
up
a
little
bit
on
what
counselor
sanik
was
asking
regarding
your
your
commitment
to
trees
and
and
also
what
you've
said
as
far
as
thinking
about
trees
in
ways
that
are
perhaps
less
quantifiable
and
and
which
also
touches
on
the
report
this
evening.
I
guess
your
perspective
encourages
us
to
broaden
how
we
think
about
the
benefits
of
trees
and
we've
received
other
presentations,
counsel
about
health
benefits
and
tree
equity,
etc.
K
K
Of
the
parts
of
what
you
talked
about
were
measurable,
like
some
of
the
studies
on
benefits
with
clear
air
or
clean
or
mental
health
benefits.
I
know
there's
evidence,
but
the
which
I
guess
is
what
we
always
turn
to
when
we
try
to
make
these
decisions,
but
I
think
you're,
very
persuasive
and
trying
to
get
us
to
think
about
things
beyond
what
is
measurable.
K
I
Well,
I
actually
did
do
some
research
into
numbers
and
such
because,
ultimately,
we
always
find
a
way
to
quantify
things.
I
didn't
really
have
enough
time
to
present
the
numbers,
but
there
are.
There
was
a
few
studies
that
I
looked
at
like,
for
example,
the
crime
rate
one
there.
The
study
that
I
found
was
that
there
was
almost
a
50
reduction
in
crime
rates
on
public
housing
developments
somewhere.
I
I
don't
remember
where
I
think
was
somewhere
in
the
u.s,
but
based
on
whether
or
not
there
was
a
low
level
of
vegetation
to
immediate
a
moderate
level
of
vegetation,
so
I
did
have
those
numbers
and
there's
some
stuff
in
there
for
further
reading
as
well
in
the
in
the
links
and
in
my
sources.
If
you'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
that,
I
know
we're
kind
of
limited
on
time,
but
it's
I've.
I
did
take
a
look
because
I
don't
want
to
just
be
like
yeah.
K
B
B
B
L
L
L
L
I
know
several
people
in
the
community
and
we're
all
talking
together,
we're
all
fed
up
and
we're
all
frightened
about
what
else
is
on
the
on
the
books
for
for
clear
cuts
or
cuts,
and
just
when
we
thought
we
were
facing
this
terrible
tree
situation,
we
didn't
think
it
could
get
worse.
We
discovered
that
the
city's
tree
counting
system
is
a
bit
odd.
L
L
There
is
no
good
time
to
cut
chop
down
trees
which,
as
robert
pointed
out,
store
carbon
cool
and
calm
the
air,
prevent
flooding
and
add
to
quality
of
life.
Robert
said
it
better
than
I
ever
could,
but
this
present
attack
on
nature
is
worst,
it's
the
worst
time
ever.
We
have
a
as
the
ipcc
said
about
two
weeks
ago.
L
We
need
to
protect
nature,
we
need
to
protect
the
planet,
and
so
this
present,
what
I
see
as
an
attack
on
our
on
the
city's
trees,
so
many
are
being
cut
down
or
are
going
to
be
cut
down
that
it's
just
something
has
to
be
done,
but
fortunately,
as
I
said,
citizens
are
are
getting
together,
and
so
that's
the
good
news.
Thank
you.
H
L
It's
not
total,
I
mean
there
are
more
areas,
but
I
mentioned
walnut
grove
at
princess
and
sydney
road
that
patri
has
clear-cut
by
the
way
he
has
three
stop
work
orders
there.
So
that's
interesting,
eunice
drive
just
north
on
sydenham
road,
just
off
sydenham
road
right
crescent
had
somehow
trees
cut
down,
and
now
they
had,
they
found
out
that
there
are
probably
going
to
be
more
trees
cut
down
because
of
the
new
developments
planned.
L
L
Barbara
avenue
was
cut
down,
trees
were
cut
down
about
six
years
ago.
I
believe
clogs
road,
2000,
trees,
centennial
drive,
purdy
rose,
purdy
mills,
road
bath,
road
resort
road,
it's
a
pretty
extensive
list
of
either
trees
that
have
been
cut
down
or
are
going
to
be
cut
down
a
lot
of
trees.
Oh
and
then
I
mentioned
that
the
two
lovely
forested
areas
by
the
river
on
off
montreal
street
and
then,
as
I
pointed
out,
we've
we've
located
seven
pieces
of
land
along
montreal
that
have
no
trees
or
just
scruffy
trees
around
the
edge.
L
A
B
M
Our
critical
relationship
with
nature
quote
a
healthy
urban
forest
provides
countless
benefits
to
the
city,
including
air
quality,
storm,
water
retention,
erosion
control,
reduced
energy
costs
and
animal
habitats.
This
is
an
excerpt
taken
from
the
tree
canopy
report.
We
are
discussing
today
an
excellent
validation
of
tree
canopy
coverage
and
why
it
is
important.
M
M
M
Urbanization
is
a
necessary
symptom
of
growing
society.
However,
as
time
goes
on
and
the
cities
continue
to
expand
at
such
an
exponential
rate,
it
becomes
clear
that
the
way
in
which
we
navigate
the
movement
of
urbanization
must
involve
compassion,
wisdom
and
tact
with
the
life
that
thrives
within
those
urban
environments
in
mind.
M
M
M
So
what
motivations
and
considerations
are
underpinning
the
development
planning
and
infrastructure
in
kingston?
Is
it
the
families,
please?
Is
it
the
responsibility
to
nurture
our
environment?
Is
it
to
model
what
it
means
to
be
a
sustainable,
equitable
city?
It
is
important
to
bring
attention
to
those
motivations,
as
it
will
determine
our
collective
quality
of
life.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you,
noah
for
your
presentation.
I
thought
it
was
fantastic.
You
touched
on
the
the
pressure
that
we're
all
feeling
we
need
to
grow.
We
need
housing.
Therefore,
a
lot
of
development
is
happening
in
our
community
and
I
did
not
see
in
the
report
of
vision
and
you're
talking
about
a
vision
of
how
we
can
incorporate
the
needs
for
housing
and
the
needs
for
sustainable
environment,
and
you
also
touched
on
equity.
H
I
I
didn't
see
that
either
equity
was
mentioned
in
the
report,
but
they
I
didn't
see
how
it
actually
made
its
way
into
the
recommendation.
Just
simply,
the
recommendations
picked
four
districts
and
it
was
kind
of
done
with
that.
But
what
was
lacking
is
precisely
what
you
were
talking
about.
The
vision,
thank
you.
H
So
I
just
want
to.
I
felt
too
that
you
got
cut
off.
So
if
you
wanted
to
add,
if
anything
is
missing
that
you
wanted
to
add,
maybe
this
is
a
good
time,
but
then
I
also
want
to
go
back
to
the
vision,
because
I
believe
you
started
actually
with
the
330
300
rules.
So
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
to
a
little
bit
more
too
so
over
to
you.
M
Well,
first
and
foremost,
I
made
my
presentation
very
tight,
so
well,
it
perhaps
seemed
as
though
I
was
getting
cut
off.
I
was
well
aware
of
the
time,
but
I
do
very
much
appreciate
your
consideration
of
me
now.
Well,
I
have
been
heavily
involved
with
little
forest
kingston
and
many
of
the
people
function
within
that
organization
who
have
discussed
the
3d
300
motion.
M
So
when
I
think
of
the
33300
motion-
and
I'm
sure
you
know
the
general
idea
with
the
330-300
for
me-
it's
introducing
a
framework
that
is
mindful
and
perhaps
even
to
a
degree
sacrificial
toward
and
that
sacrifices.
Perhaps
sorry
allow
me
to
articulate
for
a
moment.
I
seem
to
be
getting
away
from
myself,
I'm
very
much
an
over
articulator,
so
you'll
have
to
allow
me
to
digress
for
a
moment
when
you're
introducing
a
framework
such
as
the
3d
3300
motion.
M
M
So
to
me,
one
of
the
most
beautiful
parts
of
the
3300
motion
is
the
fact
that
it
that
it's
a
framework
to
apply
to
a
city
that
not
only
involves
the
people
but
people
of
all
different
backgrounds,
different
incomes
and
different
forms
of
equity.
If
that
answers
to
your
question,
I
apologize
if
that
ramble
was
vague.
H
M
After
that
it
comes
to
30
which,
if
I'm
correct,
is
30
tree
canopy
coverage,
which
is
our
target
goal
within
an
area
you'll,
be
able
to
experience
30
tree
canopy
coverage
within
a
city
and
from
your
home
you
would
be
able
to
have
access
to
a
green
space.
A
lush
green
space
within.
I
believe
it's
300
meters
of
your
living
space,
so
the
intel.
J
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Yes
and
mr
purdy,
I
think
what
your
presentation
added
so
far
to
this
complex
conversation
we're
having
was
was
really
an
artistic.
You
mentioned
sentimental
just
now,
but
it
got
me
thinking
that
really
it's
the
it's
the
connect,
the
connection
with
nature
and
the
way
that
it
profoundly
affects
our
lives
is
in
itself
kind
of
a
sentimental
thing,
and
so
it's
a
qualitative
aspect,
not
a
quantitative
one
that
might
be
missing
from
this
report.
I
I
think
I'm
getting
that
from
your
presentation.
M
M
M
I
think
that
a
relationship
with
nature
also
cultivates
a
sense
of
empathy
which
can
be
carried
away
from
nature
into
other
areas
of
our
lives.
Our
work
lives,
our
home
lives,
our
creative
lives,
as
we
touched
on
the
creativity
piece
there,
and
I
think
empathy
is
something
that
is
going
to
become
a
critical
element
and
scarce
resource
in
our
society,
as
it
evolves
and
that's
sort
of
what
I
was
trying
to
outline
with
the
notion
of
urbanization
as
somewhat
of
a
thing
to
look
at
into
the
future
and
as
thinking
okay.
M
Well,
we
know
that
we're
on
this
path
right
and
we
have
all
these
beautiful
resources
around
us.
In
this
case,
all
this
lush
green
space.
How
do
we
best
preserve
this
green
space
for
those
generations
that
are
to
come
next,
so
that
they
might
experience
the
empathy
that
comes
with
the
connection
to
nature.
J
B
N
Oh
great,
okay,
so
I'm
not
very
zoom
savvy,
just
gonna
pull
up
my
I
didn't
prepare
slides,
but
I
do
have
a
bit
of
a
script.
Okay,
so
I'll
begin,
I'm
kelsey
tucker,
I'm
an
occupational
therapist.
I
work
on
a
local
act
team,
which
is
an
assertive
community
treatment
team
serving
our
neighbors
in
this
community
who
are
dealing
with
symptoms
of
profound
mental
illness,
including
those
we
as
a
society
impose.
N
While
our
local
community
garden
was
running
a
waitlist
years
long,
we
were
forced
to
get
creative
and
resourceful,
but
thanks
to
the
amazing
guidance
and
support
of
the
loving
spoonful
little
forest
kingston
and
the
community
foundation,
we
are
now
transforming
an
underutilized
plot
of
agency
land
just
about
one
third
of
an
acre
to
include
a
recreation
space.
Art
urban
farming
and
a
milwaukee-inspired
little
forest.
We
are
coming
to
appreciate
the
reciprocal
nature
of
our
relationship
with
trees,
and
we
recognize
that
some
of
the
gifts
that
trees
share
with
us
are
named
in
this
report.
N
N
In
fact,
access
to
quality
green
space
has
been
found
to
reduce
the
harms
associated
with
income
related
health
inequality.
A
study
out
of
toronto
found
that,
having
on
average
10
more
trees
in
a
city
block,
improves
residents,
self-reported
well-being
in
ways
comparable
to
an
increase
in
annual
personal
income
of
ten
thousand
dollars
or
being
seven
years.
Younger
trees
can
actually
reduce
the
impact
of
urban
blighting.
So
personally,
I
don't
see
why
we
let
developers
who
build
right
up
to
the
sidewalk,
opt
out
of
planting
trees
or
including
parquets
having
trees
in
your
neighborhood.
N
We
also
see
in
the
findings
that
access
to
nature
improves
memory
and
attention
and
that
it
decreases
depressive
symptoms
and
that
people
living
close
to
green
spaces
are
better
equipped
to
deal
with
stress.
This
is
found
to
be
especially
true
where
folks
have
levels
of
anxiety
that
are
already
elevated
to
put
an
equity
lens
on
this.
Traditionally,
improving
health
among
marginalized
and
low-income
communities
has
relied
on
increasing
access
to
the
healthcare
system.
N
Now
I
want
to
touch
on
something.
That's
been
a
major
consideration
for
our
project,
which
is
social
connection.
Urban
green
spaces
appear
to
increase
social
cohesion.
They
promote
opportunities
for
meaningful
activities
that
otherwise
might
not
be
available
to
people
living
in
low
income
or
immigrant
neighborhoods.
N
Many
studies
show
that
increasing
the
urban
canopy
cover
reduces
crime,
specifically
violent
crime
and
property
crime,
and
this
is
a
relationship
that
actually
works.
Both
ways,
which
is
illustrated
by
data
collected
in
municipalities,
hit
hard
by
the
emerald
ash
borer,
where
tree
canopy
was
suddenly
vanishing
and
rates
of
crime
spiked.
N
This
idea
of
being
a
part
of
something
bigger
is
a
key
component
of
compassion,
and
indeed,
we
see
an
increased
and
compassionate
acts
in
those
who
regularly
experience
awe
when
we
don't
consider
deep
paving
when
we
let
developers
out
of
their
obligations
to
contribute
to
our
tree
canopy.
When
we
sign
off
on
clear
cuts,
we
facilitate
the
marginalization
of
trees
in
the
same
ways
that
we
do
it
to
people.
N
B
O
O
O
So
the
first
thing
that
I
want
to
say
is:
I
did
read
the
report
not
with
a
fine-tooth
comb,
but
quite
some
things
I
focused
in
on
and
I
have
to
say
there's
something
alarming
in
it,
and
perhaps
I
might
suggest
that
you
even
consider
not
accepting
this
report
as
written.
So
I'm
going
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
alarming
thing
on
page
11.
and
on
mine,
I've
made
circles,
and
it's
not
that
you
have
to
be
able
to
see
my
circles.
O
O
It
specifically
says
that
there's
four
on
the
conclusions
page
replanting
efforts
are
recommended
to
be
made
in
electoral
districts,
two
three
four
and
six
so
they're,
actually
focusing
in
on
four
districts,
which
might
be
cons,
considered
sort
of
newer
and
also
quite
tree
populous
districts.
So
I'm
just
asking
all
of
you
to
take
a
close
look
at
this,
and
this
is
not
a
report
that
brings
tree
equity
into
existence,
and
perhaps
this
committee
has
not
adopted
a
policy
of
tree
equity.
O
O
O
Okay,
now,
to
my
other
talking
points,
oh
sorry,
there's
one
other
reference
in
this
report
that
I
also
find
problematic,
and
I
need
to
draw
your
intention
to
impervious
percent
impervious
percent.
What
the
hell
does
that
mean
to
me?
It
just
means
concrete
and
pavement.
Well,
you
know
what,
underneath
all
that
concrete
and
pavement
is
some
really
good
soil,
and
if
we
get
rid
of
the
concrete
and
pavement,
we
can
plant
a
lot
more
trees.
So
this
is
seemingly
part
of
the
argumentation.
O
When
you
look
at
the
pretty
pictures
of
why
they're
arguing
that
williamstown,
sydenham
and
kingstown,
the
oldest
parts
of
the
city
of
kingston,
don't
deserve
more
trees.
In
fact,
they
deserve
less
trees.
None
of
this
is
acceptable
if
there's
too
much
concrete,
just
get
rid
of
the
concrete
but
don't
get
rid
of
the
trees.
Okay,
I
have
eight
main
points.
I
was
going
to
start
my
timer
so
that
I
kept
track
of
myself
and
I
forgot,
but
I'll
just
pretend
that
I've
got
a
lot
more
time.
O
We
can't
keep
cutting
them
down
because
guess
what
trees
need
time
to
grow
and
we
have
targets
that
are
set
at
actually
they
were
set
at
20
30..
I
know
that
in
the
last
week,
or
two
you've
probably
heard
in
the
news
that
there's
a
new
target
that
says
no,
we've
got
to
actually
meet
our
targets
by
2025.,
so
we're
actually
on
a
collision
course.
O
O
O
O
So
I've
wrapped
a
few
of
my
points
in
together
and
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
something
that
was
disturbing
in
the
report
itself.
Well,
actually,
in
your
minutes,
and
it
was
part
of
the
motion
to
create
the
parquets.
I
love
that
idea,
but
it
said
developers
prefer
developers
preferred
to
provide
payment.
O
B
P
Yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
is
not
working,
so
I
want
my
zip
my
my
phone
here
tonight,
so
I
don't
know
how
it
works.
Can
you
hear
me
enough?
I
really
appreciate
this
presentation
too,
because
I
I
do
appreciate
the
the
points
and
mr
chair.
I
only
got
three
of
the
eight.
Am
I
able
to
ask
her
to
quickly
tell
us
the
the
final
other
eight,
I'm
not
sure.
If
I
didn't
write
fast
enough
or
I
didn't.
O
A
P
O
Public
forests,
three
adopt
city
in
a
forest-
I
didn't
say
it
because
I
was
short
on
time.
The
fourth
one
that
I
really
would
love
to
see
as
a
policy
is
removing
grass
and
I
have
actually
emailed
the
bylaw
about
that
and
I've
emailed
my
city
counselor
about
not
having
grass
everywhere.
It's
a
very
unsustainable
green
cover,
there's
so
many
other
more
sustainable
for
all
kinds
of
resources
options.
So
that
requires
elaboration.
O
But
it's
a
policy
that
the
city
should
consider
and
I
have
some
other
cities
having
done
it.
This
las
vegas
is
removing
all
non-utilitarian
grass
from
its
city,
so
that
was
the
fourth
one.
The
fifth
one
was
transport
you're,
a
transportation
committee
and
transportation
should
not
only
be
considered
as
humans,
but
as
we
grow,
we
need
to
be
building
animal
bridges
and
corridors
so
that
wildlife
is
also
safe
in
our
city.
O
I
once
witnessed
a
raccoon
being
hit
and
run
over
by
a
car,
and
it
broke
my
heart.
I
can't
tell
you
what
it
feels
like
to
see
a
raccoon.
Look
you
in
the
eye
in
its
dying
moments,
and
we
don't
have
to
occupy
this
earth
with
our
creature,
friends
in
the
way
that
we
do
with
complete
disregard
for
their
health
and
well-being.
O
That
was
my
fifth
point.
Sorry
sixth
point
was
your.
I
quoted
the
the,
whereas
in
your
actual
agenda
and
the
the
phrase
the
developers
preferring
preferred
private
payment,
why
are
they
getting
a
get
out
of
jail
free
card,
a
free
ticket
to
not
put
in
green
space?
Clearly,
policy
needs
to
change
so
that
developers
don't
get
an
out
to
do
what
is
the
ethically
and
economically
responsible
thing
to
do
for
the
well-being
of
the
citizens
of
kingston?
O
So
that
was
point
six
point.
Seven
was
addressing
institutional
lands
and
to
encourage
actual
forest.
So
why
is
there
so
little
green
space
other
than
the
odd
pop-up
tree
at
st
lawrence
college,
collins,
bay,
penitentiary,
anyone
driving
down
bath
road
can
see
all
the
way
down
to
king
street.
That's
not
good
urban
deforestation
policy.
It's
like
right
in
front
of
you
a
clear
view.
It
shouldn't
be
there.
O
And
yeah
institutional
land,
so
queen's
university,
st
lawrence
college,
all
of
the
prison
government
lands
should
be
encouraged
to
also
have
green
space.
So
that
was
point
seven
and
then
point
eight
was
private
commercial
land,
so
driving
down
gardner's
road
you
up
and
down
gardner's
road,
you
barely
see
a
tree
and
yet
that
doesn't
need
to
be
that
way.
O
O
O
P
J
Yes,
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
your
passionate
advocacy
for
our
us
having
a
visionary
revolution
when
it
comes
to
our
connection
with
nature
in
the
city,
I'm
gonna
just
go
back
to
a
very
narrow
point,
because
sydney
counselor
this
also
stood
out
to
me.
Reading
the
report
you
mentioned
that
the
and
it's
a
consultant's
report-
that's
in
that's
in
here
right-
and
this
is
an
information
report
that
we
you
said.
J
Maybe
we
should
consider
not
accepting,
I
suppose,
that's
an
option,
but
there
is
no
actionable
item
in
the
recommendation.
The
recommendations
contained
in
the
report.
It's
not
a
recommendation
in
the
same
sense
as
one
that
we
vote
on,
that
it
becomes
action
for
staff,
because
it's
not
direction
of
staff,
because
there's
no
recommendation
to
vote
on
from
this
report.
J
However,
I'd
like
to
to
you
to
elaborate
on
what
you
said
about
districts,
9,
10
and
11.,
because
it's
in
the
report
and
it
it.
As
you
said,
the
the
report
recommends
non-bindingly.
It
recommends
planting
in
all
that
empty
green
land
like
permeable
land
in
the
west
end.
So
that's
great.
Those
four
western
districts
have
lots
of
spots
for
new
trees.
It
would
definitely
be
easy
to
do
there,
but
it
recommends
a
reducing
cover
in
9,
10
11..
So
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
your
interpretation
of
what
the
consultants
are
saying
here,.
O
I
O
O
But
you
know
almost
if
you
look
at
canopy
percent
and
preferable
land
percent,
so
many
of
these
districts
had
double-digit
increases.
Some
of
them
had
single
digit
increases
portsmouth
and
it
really
was
like.
Oh
the
older,
the
city
is
the
less
we
care
about,
creating
any
change
and,
and
and
what
is
underpinning
that
I
have
no
idea.
O
Urban
heat
island
proximity
to
hardscape,
floodplain,
slope,
soil
erosion,
proximity
to
canopy,
and
so
you
know
that's
like
when
you
go
into
the
job
interview
and
they
have
a
little
score
sheet
and
how
good
you
answer
the
question:
you
get
a
little
score
and
they
add
up
the
score
and,
oh,
my
goodness,
I
scored
an
87.
I
will,
I
guess,
they'll
offer
me
the
job
or
whatever
you
know
it's,
it's
a
methodology,
but
it's
a
very.
O
Listen,
I
actually
work
with
numbers
all
day
long
in
my
job,
I'm
an
estimator.
I
do
try
to
quantify
things
your
city
counselors,
you
do
want
to
see
the
quantification,
but
you
want
the
quantification
to
be
based
in
sound
principles
and
that's
those
are
ethical
considerations.
What
are
our
priorities-
and
I
don't
know
if
somebody
gave
them
these
priorities
or
they
decided
them
based
on
other
cities,
but
I've
got
to
tell
you.
I
think
the
whole
world
is
shifting
really
rapidly,
and
some
of
our
old
methodologies
are
just
going
to
have
to
be
tossed
out.
O
O
O
And
we
had
a
wake-up
call
like
bc,
had
a
wake-up
call
with
the
fires
and
the
floods.
Kingston
hasn't
had
its
wake-up
call.
Kingston
hasn't
had
its
extreme
weather
events
yet,
but
they're
coming
and
the
best
thing
we
can
do
to
mitigate
the
effects
of
the
extreme
weather.
Events
that
are
coming
is
to
put
as
many
trees
everywhere
as
quickly
as
possible.
As
soon
as
we
can.
O
There
is
no
logical
reason
for
anyone
to
water
their
grass,
because
there
shouldn't
be
grass
in
the
first
place
because
it
is
an
in
it
is
not
a
native
species
like
it's,
not
the
native
grasses,
and
if
you
have
sustainable
plants
that
know
how
to
live
in
the
environment.
We're
in
you
don't
need
to
create
all
these
engineered
fixes
to
fix
problems
that
we
created
in
the
first
place
by
over
engineering.
The
problem.
O
I
don't
know
I
mean
I,
I
don't
even
think
I
talk
that
intelligently
about
it.
I
think
there's
other
people
who
are
far
more
versed
in
what
we
need
to
do
and
have
done
far
more
research
and
far
more
reading,
but
I
can
tell
you
how
I
feel
when
I
see
weeping
plants
that
look
like
they're
near
death
and
I
see
trees
falling
over
because
there
isn't
enough
groundwater
keeping
them
alive.
Do
you
know
I've
driven
around
today
and
I've
seen
two
weeping
mulberries
literally
just
toppled
over
like
what's
going
on?
G
O
G
Got
it
got
it?
Thank
you.
Some
of
the
things
on
the
list
are
cross-jurisdictional
right,
and
so
we
don't
even
have
the
right
departments
here
tonight
carrying
all
these
ideas.
Ours
right
now
like
at
this
report,
as
you
saw,
is
all
public
works.
It's
all
like
on
our
trees
that
are
planted
on
public
lands
right,
but
it's
it's
the
province
and
the
planning
act,
and
therefore
our
planning
department.
G
That
is
not
here
tonight
that
it's
the
province
doug
ford
right
that
allows
the
octo
payment
in
lua
parkland,
and
so
that's
something
that's
beyond
our
city's
control
right,
that's
the
province
that
looks
after
the
planning
act
and
the
provincial
policy
statements.
The
city
did
do
with
the
conservation
area,
a
natural
corridor
study
back
in
2005
from
which
is
all
our
greenways,
but
it
rarely
ever
gets
mentioned
anymore
by
our
planning
department
and
to
purchase
private
lands
yeah.
G
All
it
takes
is
taxpayer
money
right
and
sometimes,
if
that
can
be
like
that,
asking
price
by
developers
to
buy
their
land
is
very
expensive.
So
I
know
great
ideas.
Oh
and
the
other
thing
that's
another
cross
jurisdictional
department
is
then
our
bylaw
department,
because
that
would
be
not
having
grass
everywhere
or
boulevards,
which
is
part
of
our
yards
y
law,
which
is
going
to
be
public
meetings.
Starting.
Q
G
B
A
B
R
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
can
everyone
hear
me
yep
excellent,
thank
you
so,
based
on
the
recommendation
from
council
in
2020,
the
tree
inventory
was
updated
and
the
tree
canopy
coverage
and
ecosystem
service
assessment
was
prepared
for
the
city
of
kingston
davies.
Resource
group
was
contracted
to
complete
the
work
and
it
was
completed
in
february
of
this
year.
Move
ahead
in
the
slide.
Please,
the
urban
forest
canopy
for
the
entire
boundary
of
the
city
of
kingston
is
28.8.
R
It's
estimated
that
thirteen
percent
of
the
trees
in
the
kingston
public
flash
with
approximately
5
000
trees
on
public
land
alone
being
removed
off
public
property
alone.
The
effort
and
work
being
done
in
prior
years
and
during
this
time
period
to
plant
additional
trees
is
the
reason
that
the
canopy
did
not
fall.
The
canopy
total
did
not
fall.
This
report
will
provide
information
to
help
us
continue
to
drive
to
increase
the
forest
canopy
cover
to
the
30
next
slide.
R
R
R
There
is
much
emphasis
on
planting
more
trees,
but
we
must
also
provide
the
appropriate
care
for
the
urban
trees
and
ensure
the
investment
provided.
The
dividends
that
we're
seeking
next
slide
ecosystem
benefits.
This
site
speaks
for
itself,
it's
showing
the
effects
of
the
urban
forest
on
air
quality,
carbon
and
storm
water.
R
R
R
The
recommendation
for
planting
in
the
electoral
districts
of
loyalist
cataract
way,
collins
bay,
lakeside
and
trillium
was
highlighted
because
these
areas
have
an
abundance
of
planetable
land.
It's
not
to
say
that
these
are
the
only
areas
they
should
be
planted
in.
It's
just
pointing
out
that
these
areas
do
have
an
abundance
of
plantar
warts
next
slide.
R
Please
next
recommendation
was
to
continue
to
create
tree
planting
strategies
for
treeless
aerials,
so
this
map,
although
it's
small
and
you
can't
see
it
very
well-
you
can
zoom
in
on
it
and
you
can
see
the
areas
of
priority
plant
and
classifications
and
the
priority
plant
planting
classifications
were
developed.
Looking
at
the
land
cover
status,
the
proximity
to
hard
skates
flood
plains,
slopes
erosions
and
priority
to
camp
to
canada,
the
canopy.
So
what
we?
R
R
R
R
The
next
recommendation
is
to
ensure
a
work
plan,
has
a
balance
of
planting
trees
and
increasing
the
number
of
trees
within
the
urban
urban
growth
boundary
and
replacing
defective
and
diseased
trees
in
older
established
areas.
So
we
need
to
ensure
that
we're
keeping
our
we're
establishing
programs
to
ensure
the
ongoing
health
of
the
urban
forest
and,
again,
that's
really
looking
at
some
of
the
areas
where
there
already
is
very
well
established,
trees
and
making
sure
we're
maintaining
those
trees
or
starting
to
plant
trees
to
replace
them.
R
We've
had
a
lot
of
success
with
survivability
of
the
trees
the
forestry
department
has
planted
it's
largely
due
to
the
amount
of
time
and
effort
that
goes
into
determining
the
right
tree
for
the
right
space,
we'll
need
to
ensure
that
our
programs
continue
to
ensure
diversity
and
utilization
of
the
right
species
going
forward
as
well,
and
this
will
be
looked
at
in
our
faster
operating
plan.
Next
slide.
R
The
next
recommendation
was
to
continue
to
establish
long-term
growing
contracts
to
ensure
availability
of
high
quality
and
spot
stocks.
We
currently
have
a
three-year
contract
with
a
company
that
we
use
and
we've
used
them
for
many
years
and
we'll
address
the
need
to
continue
to
work
to
ensure
high
quality
native
stocks,
as
we
move
forward
next
slide.
R
So
moving
forward,
based
on
this
report,
we
will
bring
bring
forth
the
forestry
operating
plan
to
the
meeting
in
june,
which,
in
the
parkway,
incorporate
the
recommendations
of
this
report.
The
key
aspects
of
the
urban
forestry
management
plan,
operational
requirements
for
the
forestry
group
and
again
comments
made
through
this
presentation
today
as
well.
The
goal
of
the
of
the
forestry
operating
plan
will
be
to
move
to
the
30
urban
forest
or
canopy
next
slide.
R
A
few
other
items
that
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
the
intent
is
to
be
able
to
conduct
the
tree
canopy
study
in
house
and
provide
updates
annually.
So
currently,
our
gis
department
has
the
tools
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
pull
a
tree
canopy
study
on
an
annual
basis,
and
we
will
be
able
to
provide
that
information
to
one
another
basis.
R
All
applicable
city
departments
to
deal
with
forestries
and
trees
will
work
together
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
unified
approach
to
continued
management
of
the
urban
forests.
So
looking
forward
until
next
year,
it
will
be
to
look
to
see
that
we
bring
all
of
those
groups
together.
So
we
can
have
a
more
unified
approach
to
forestries
and
trees
within
the
city
and
a
commitment
to
start
planting
trees
in
areas
where
it's
been
traditionally
difficult
due
to
infrastructure.
R
B
H
H
H
Besides,
I
guess
what
we
heard
from
a
lot
of
delegations,
the
developments
and
and
tree
equity
wasn't
mentioned.
It
was
mentioned
a
couple
times
in
the
report,
but
certainly
I
didn't
see
how
it
was
incorporated
in
into
the
recommendation,
and
I
tell
you
in
portsmouth
district,
which
is
the
district
I
represent.
H
When
I
was
door
knocking
in
the
summer,
I
was
door
knocking,
it
was
extremely
hot
and
I
never
heard
of
the
term
tree
equity
before,
but
I
actually
felt
it.
I
acutely
felt
it
when
I
the
the
social
housing
developments
in
in
my
area
in
in
portsmouth
district.
They
hardly
have
any
trades,
and
I
brought
that
up
to
some
of
the
community
meetings
that
I
had
and
some
trees
have
been
planted.
H
But,
as
you
pointed
out,
it
takes
takes
a
long
time
for
those
trees
and
people
are
paying
for
their
own
utilities
and
to
cool
their
houses
in
the
summer.
So
tree
equity
actually
reduces
costs
for
people
too,
because
our
need
for
energy
is
greatest
often
even
in
in
the
summer
when
people
need
air
conditioners.
H
So
it's
not
just
a
feel
good
thing.
It's
a
it's
a
really
important
thing
for
for
families,
and
we
did
hear
a
lot
about
health.
So
my
question
is
where,
in
the
you,
you
mentioned,
of
course,
that
this
will
be
used
for
the
forestry
operating
plan
that
is
coming
to
to
the
committee
in
june,
and
you
mentioned
what
will
be
used
to
to
offer
what
information
will
be
used
to
put
that
plan
together.
But
I
didn't
see
public
input.
R
All
right,
so
so,
just
commenting
on
a
couple
of
your
points,
the
the
report
that
was
done
was
very
much
based
on
hard
facts
and
tree
inventories
and
tree
canopies.
So
so
definitely
the
other
items
such
as
the
tree
equity.
The
threats
from
other
sources
will
definitely
be
dealt
with
in
the
forestry
operating
plan.
Those
are
items
that
that
may
not
have
been
looked
at
in
the
you
know:
sort
of
the
hard
data
of
a
tree.
R
Canopy
coverage
study
your
question
about
whether
others
will
be
involved
in
the
forestry
operating
plan
at
this
point
in
time.
We're
taking
this
information
and
we
have
got
other
sources
of
information,
we're
really
pulling
from
the
urban
forestry
management
plan
and
the
goals.
The
seven
goals
that
were
in
that
fund.
That
plan
was
very
much
developed
by
a
group
of
multi-group
of
people
from
public
and
private
sources
and
we'll
continue
to
build
on
that
through
that
first
year,
operating
fairness.
H
S
So
we
address
those
to
start
to
try
to
get
at
this
issue
of
tree
equity
because
largely
it's
been
adopted
by
people
that
have
cars
and
can
pick
this
up
and
can
pay
the
ten
dollars
and
all
those
kind
of
things
and
can
plant
it.
So
this
was
just
the
start
of
that
and
we're
continuing
down
that
path
with
the
operating
plan
that
director
santucci
is
talking
about
bringing
forward
in
june.
S
To
start
to
address
us,
and-
and
so
even
though
in
the
effort
in
the
canopy
report,
there's
talk
about
these
areas,
you
know
need
to
be
focused
on
be
careful
about,
jumping
on
that,
the
public
works
department
have
been
planting
trees
very
equitably
throughout
every
district.
In
fact,
it's
it's
almost
dead,
even
on
percentage
basis
across
all
districts,
which
is
quite
quite
amazing.
S
I
found,
but
it's
also
to
continue
that
so
the
first
point
that
that
director
santucci
had
on
her
on
on
her
one
of
her
slides
was
that
we're
try
to
plant
wherever
you
can
plant
and
that's
what
we
in
we
intend
to
do,
doesn't
matter
which
district
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
every
spot,
that's
available
to
plant
a
tree.
Can
we
plant
a
tree
there?
What's
preventing
us
from
planting
a
tree
there
and
then
continuing
that
work
so
of
getting
them
on
private
property?
S
And
that's
why
you
know
they're
we're
focused
on
moving
towards
that
30
initiative
instead
of
double
the
tree
canopy
but
get
to
the
30,
because
that
includes
private
and
there's
some
places
where
we
can't
get
it
on
the
public
property.
But
maybe
we
could
get
it
on
the
private
land,
that's
just
right
next
to
it,
and
then
it
improves
that
streetscape
for
everyone
as
well.
So
it's
those
kind
of
initiatives
that
are
going
to
be
coming
forward
and
and
we're
actually
director
santucci's
already
started
action
that
helps
thanks.
H
Thank
you
just
one
more
question
sure
go
ahead,
so
where
is
so?
Nobody
knows
their
the
the
community
better
than
the
neighborhood,
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
back
to
that
question.
How
can
the
community
get
involved
to
have
a
say
and
to
give
some
input,
for
example,
like
calvin
park
and
polson
park,
they've
lost
a
lot
of
trees
in
in
those
areas.
S
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
sorry,
just
to
quickly
dad
on
to
director
santucci's
comments,
so
we'll
be
actually
contacting
counselors
individual
counselors
in
each
of
the
districts
as
well,
when
we've
identified
areas
that
we
can't
get
trees
on
on
the
public,
right-of-ways
and
they're
void
of
trees,
we'll
be
looking
to
see.
If
we,
if
you
have
some
neighborhood
contacts,
and
you
know
so
that
that
could
happen
as
well.
P
P
We
can
always
do
better
and
that's
what
we're
focused
on,
but
I
really
appreciated
the
comments
that
were
made
and
that
there
will
be
continued
engagement
with
counselors
and
and
the
community
and
and
that's
how
we
get
things
done
really
well.
But
I
was
wondering
if,
if
there
was
any
more
comments
about
the
challenge
we
have
on
we're,
not
just
recording
but
managing
tree
health.
Is
that
something
that
we
work
hard
on
and
how?
How
do
we
is
that
with
a
tree
doctors,
or
is
that
arborist?
How
do
we?
R
R
P
So
it's
an
ongoing
activity.
Thank
you.
I
do
want
to
comment
that
I
you
know.
I
know
that
the
rural
area
isn't
really
contained
within
this
data,
and
I
think
I
understand
that
maybe
you
could
clarify.
I
mean
that
would
be
a
significant
area
for
data.
I'm
not
sure
I
mean
it's
25,
kilometers
from
my
house,
every
direction
but
south.
So
it's
a
big
big
area,
but
I
do
think
that
there
is.
I
do
appreciate
the
involvement
that
you've
already
had
with
rural
advisory
and
we
do
have
input
there.
P
R
R
The
rural
area
itself
has
a
39
percent
tree
canopy
cafe
in
it,
and
although
we
don't
talk
about
trees
that
are
planted
there,
a
significant
number
of
the
plantings
that
happened
from
groups
like
caterpillar
conservation
authority
happen
in
that
area,
with
large
numbers
of
trees
going
into
that
area.
So,
although
our
forestry
department
isn't
necessarily
focused
on
planting
trees
in
that
area,
there
is
a
lot
of
other
plantings
that
are
going
on.
J
J
D
J
They're
they're
they're,
the
countryside
is
carrying
the
city
when
it
comes
to
the
existing
canopy.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point
because
you
can
get
lost
in
all
the
numbers
to
me.
It's
it's.
It's
a
crucial
part
of
our
of
our
overall
swing
at
trying
to
get
to
this
30
canopy.
My
first
question
has
to
do
it's
direct
to
that
director
santucci,
because
it's
it's
it's
work
that
public
works
has
to
do.
If
we
have
a
drought,
we
have
a.
I
I
believe
we
now
have
a
drought
management
strategy.
J
We
have.
We
have
levels
of
drought,
that
we
we've
monitored,
environment,
canada
and
so
on.
What
is
the
plan
if,
if
maybe
not,
2022
or
2023,
there's
a
there's
a
drought
coming
there
was
one.
There
was
a
big
one
in
2012.
I
remember
before
I
was
elected
and,
and
there's
been
more
since
then
I'm
just
wondering:
what's
the
plan
for
the
next
major
like
mid-level,
drought
or
higher,
I
know
there's
some
direction
from
council
in
the
past.
I
was
just
wondering:
what's
public
works
plan
to
manage
the
next
drought.
R
Thank
you
for
your
mr
chair,
counselor
stroud.
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
give
you
an
answer
to
that
right
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Unfortunately,
I
know
we
have
one.
I
don't.
I
don't
know
all
of
the
details
of
that
report
or
of
that
what
we
do
in
that
case,
but
I
can
definitely
get
that
information
for
you.
J
J
Obviously,
a
drought
is
gonna
impact
that
all
of
the
trees
in
the
inventory
all
at
once
right,
so
so
that
it's
kind
of
like
a,
I
guess,
a
missing
aspect
of
the
report
that
I
know
isn't
missed
on
purpose
by
the
consultant,
but
it
does
loom
large
these
days
with
all
the
extreme
weather
events
and
and
it
was
anyway.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
my
next
one
question
has
to
do.
It's
probably
for
commissioner
joyce,
the
neighborhood
tree
planning
program.
He
was
already
talking
about
this
and
you
can
recall
recently.
J
S
So
that's
kind
of
what
we
were
talking
about,
plus
some
of
that
money
is
going
to
be
used
for
the
sir
johnny
mcdonald
boulevard
enhancements
for
trees
all
down
through
there,
so
we're
quite
capable
and
and
we're.
I
would
say,
the
staff
have
been
very
good
and
responsive
to
be
able
to
do
this
and
we
look
forward
to
doing
more
of
it.
J
Okay,
that's
that's
great
to
hear
so
essentially
that
that
program
is
growing
and
it
it
was
still
feasible
for
staff
to
keep
up.
It's
been
said
already
that
that
getting
at
those
private,
I
think
you
said
it
yourself
getting
at
those
private
lands
to
to
expand
the
canopy
in
places
where
there
might
not
be
any
more
spots
on
the
boulevard
is
crucial,
especially
crucial
in
my
district
one
more
question,
mr
chair.
J
J
It
will
have
recommendations
this
tree
inventory-
and
this
is,
I
guess
this
is
my
question,
because
I
don't
quite
understand
how
we
went
from
asking
for
a
tree
inventory,
which
we've
got
here
with
this
report,
to
the
recommendations
in
the
report
that,
if
we're
going
to
plant
a
bunch
of
trees,
we
should
plant
them
in
the
places
where
we
have
spots,
which
is
in
districts.
Two
three
four,
five,
six
or
whatever
the
districts
were,
I
don't
understand,
is
that
going?
Is
that
linked
to
the
to
the
recommendations?
That's
like
is
this
report.
J
R
All
right,
I
can
start
on
some
of
that,
maybe
and
as
well,
and
give
us
a
hand
on
some
of
those.
I
believe
that
some
of
your
initial
questions
were
in
regards
to
the
recommendations
to
replanting
efforts
in
a
few
of
the
electoral
districts,
and
I
think
what
that
is
specifically
trying
to
say
is
that
those
areas
had
more
land
which
was
open
for
replanting,
but
the
recommendation
prior
to
that
is
to
prioritize
tree
planting
in
as
many
suitable
locations
as
possible.
R
So
it
really
was
just
making
the
comment
or
identifying
that
those
areas
you
won't
have
as
much
issue
in
planting
with,
because
there
is
already
plentiful
land,
that's
there,
but
you
really
need
to
prioritize
throughout
the
entire
city,
where
you're
going
to
plan
this.
So
some
of
this
information
will
go
into
helping
us
determine
how
do
we
select
areas,
and
it
will
probably
be
ideas
in
terms
of
how
do
we
prioritize,
based
more
so
on
the
priority
planting
classifications
than
just
the
averages
and
those
particular
districts.
G
R
Thank
you
and
for
you,
mr
chair,
so
I
think
if
you
look
at
the
chart
that
talked
about
impervious
land
previous
land
preferable,
land,
the
areas
that
are
preferable
and
remove
things
like
sports
fields,
wetlands
airports
prisons,
so
those
areas
that
you
can't
actually
plant
in
those
are
the
areas
that
are
removed
for
that
preferable.
Land
percentage,
waterways
were
actually
removed,
so
the
actual
creeks
and
and
that
sort
of
stuff
was
removed.
So
so
there's
a
bit
of
both
of
that
that
happens
in
their
festival.
G
Oh
okay,
so
does
that
mean
that
the
moin
point,
like
the
trees
at
the
moines
point,
are
excluded
because
they're
owned,
like
you
know
how?
Let's
see
the
crca
owns
them,
but
we
pay
for
the
maintenance.
So,
in
terms
of
this
report,
is
it
safe
to
assume
that
it
doesn't
include
the
trees
at
lemoine
point
or
the
marshlands,
for
example?
S
S
G
S
G
Okay
thanks,
so
that
was
like
a
little
bit.
That
was
definitely
confusing
in
the
report,
because
when
I
was
reading
the
report
I
was
thinking
okay,
so
the
21.48
doesn't
include
the
tannery
lands
because
that's
not
publicly
owned,
or
it
doesn't
include,
like
all
the
forests
that
are
right
now
being
chopped
down
this
spring.
But
we're
saying
21.48
would
include
all
the
woodlands.
S
Is
correct:
yeah,
yeah!
That's
why
again,
you
know
we
want
to
get
away
from
the
concept
of
the
doubling
the
tree
canopy
because
or
the
dublin
tree
canopy,
because
that
definition
was
actually
based
on
number
of
trees,
not
on
actual
percentage
of
canopy
and
we're
trying
to.
I
think
you
know.
We
both
think
that
it's
more
important
to
move
towards
the
tree
canopy
percentage
and
using
that
as
the
baseline
of
measurement
for
the
city,
not
the
number
of
trees.
S
Because
then
it's
not
you
know,
you
will
still
report
the
number
of
trees,
we're
planting
of
course,
committee
council,
but
the
important
aspect
and
the
important
kpi
really
here
is
the
actual
tree.
Canopy
coverage
in
the
urban
environment
and
and
just
as
a
note,
the
rural
number
of
39
percent
doesn't
flow
into
that
30
percent
calculation
at
all.
B
B
S
Sure
happy
to
answer
that
and
to
you,
deputy
chair,
so
the
program
we,
the
success
of
that
program
was
not
to
the
degree
that
public
works
would
like
to
see
so
they're
doing,
they're
refining
the
planting
mechanism,
I
guess
would
say
as
well
as
looking
at
some
additional
sites,
so
that
is
moving
forward.
I
had
that
included
in
the
budget
as
well,
so
that
that
piece
of
the
wildflower
pilot
program
is
continuing
into
this
year
and
with
an
expansion
and
refinement
to
try
to
get
better
results.
B
R
So
I
think
that
is
something
we
have
started
to
take
a
look
at
definitely
right
now,
we're
using
some
community
groups
that
are
are
eager
to
help
out
with
our
neighborhood
tree
programming,
and
we've
got
a
number
of
community
groups
that
have
offered
to
help
with
the
planting
of
those
trees.
But
that
definitely
is
something
we
have
discussed
in
the
past
as
well
as,
if
there's
areas
we
need
to
get
into
that,
we
may
be
able
to
do
some
of
that
as
well.
S
Thank
you
in
three
years,
yeah,
so
part
of
that
175
000,
approved
by
council
a
couple
weeks
ago
from
the
tree
reserve
fund
is
actually
designated
for
that
program.
That
director
santucci
was
was
talking
about
and
would
address
that,
so
it
is
planting
on
private
property.
Our
stipulation
from
public
works
will
be,
of
course,
that
it's
got
to
be
on
the
front
on
the
streetscape
side
to
so
that
it
benefits
the
neighborhood
on
hold
and
the
pla.
S
Thank
you.
So,
yes,
there's!
Actually
director
santucci
has
a
plan
for
the
boulevard,
the
center
boulevard
for
sir
john
a,
and
that
was
part
of
that
175
000
as
well
from
a
couple
weeks
ago
for
approval,
so
that
we
can
beautify
that
stretch
of
road
from
essentially
you
know
the
401
down
towards
union
will
be
just
past
johnson
street.
This
is
the
extent
that
we'll
go
so
there'll
be
beautification.
B
G
Thank
you
for
you,
mr
chair,
so
just
some
quick
questions
for
dominant
tree
species
in
this
report.
When
they
did
the
tree
inventory,
did
they
do
some
appendices
like
with
what
trees
are
in
each
district?
You
know
like
20,
30
percent
ash
trees
in
this
district
or
oak
trees,
or
with
that
those
reports
would
it
be
available
in
june,
when
you
bring
the
urban
forest
management
plan
update
to
us.
R
R
But
it's
also
information
that
we
can
look
at
at
any
point
in
time,
because
that
information
is
called
in
the
public
land
is
all
in
our
tree
inventory
it's
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
pull
out
for
public
land
or
sorry
for
private
land,
but
it
is
something
that
possibly
with
some
of
the
new
stuff
that
our
gis
brick
was
doing.
We
may
be
able
to
pull
some
of
that.
G
Okay,
that's
excellent.
I
know
there
was
a
question
that
was
sent
today
about
diversity
targets
like
do
we
want
as
a
city
to
have
such
a
percentage
of
maple
trees,
but
you
know
not
beyond
a
certain
percentage,
just
in
case
we
get
hit
by
that
asian
longhorned
beetle
and
similarly
with
other
species
is,
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
part
of
the
urban
forest
management
plan
update
for
june
as
well
or
if
we
haven't
looked
at
any
targets.
R
R
G
G
G
B
R
So,
thank
you
again
through
you,
mr
chair.
We
I
don't
have
the
size
that
they
were
able
to
pick
up
in
that
imagery.
I
know
that
the
imagery
start
using
the
program
we're
going
to
use
to
provide
you
with
the
tree
canopy
and
annually
that
imagery
and
the
information
will
get
more
detailed
every
year,
as
it
goes
as
that,
as
that
technology
becomes
becomes
better
and
better.
I
find
out
to
see
what
the
height
was
that
the
tree
had
to
be
in
order
to
to
hit
the
tree
canopy.
G
G
H
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair.
Well,
I
just
really
wanted
to
thank
director
santucci
and
question
and
choice
for
you
and
the
conversation
and
your
answers,
because
it
understand
this
report
better.
The
recommendations
aren't
really
recommendations,
they're,
just
pointing
out
no
pun
intended
where
their
lowest
hanging
food
actually
is,
which
is
in
those
four
districts
but
you're
going
to
include
tree
equity
and
we're
going
to
get
as
many
trees
as
possible.
So
that's
all
really
helpful.
S
You
know
the
integrated
pest
management,
all
those
kind
of
aspects
that
fall
into
public
works.
The
piece
is
that
you're
speaking
to
council,
dougherty
they're
good
points,
and
I
would
say
they
would
form
part
of
a
more
holistic
discussion
that
commissioner
hugo
boss
and
commissioner
agnew
and
I
have
been
engaging
in
lately
and
trying
to
to
look
at
this
more
at
a
holistic
level
across
all
departments
to
ensure
that
we've
got
a
more
unified
and
strategic
vision
of
how,
where
we're
going
to
go
and
how
we're
going
to
get
there.
S
What
those
green
corridors
actually
mean
because
the
the
you
know
they're
they're,
both
a
focal
point
for
residents
to
to
be
able
to
go
to
that's
close
by
relax.
Take
a
walk
and
all
those
kind
of
things,
and
also
it
can
address
some
of
the
animal
and
species
movement
and
stuff
like
that,
and
then
you
think
about
how
you
protect
that
those
are
fairly
large
things,
and
you
know
sometimes
we
unfortunately
were
in
a
in
a
city
that
it's
got.
A
lot
of
development
that
has
has
long
occurred
in
the
past.
S
H
S
Thank
you
and
through
you,
so
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
I
will
say
it
may
not
be
in
the
forest
operating
plan,
but
I
will
say
that
one
of
the
discussions
that
we've
been
having
here
is
about
sort
of
taking
a
look
at
the
that
kingston's
urban
forest
management
plan
that
was
established
in
2011
and
looking
to
see
whether
or
not
that
needs
to
be
renewed,
reviewed
and
and
sort
of
redone.
S
And
I-
and
I
would
see
I
think
both
director
santucci
and
myself
are
in
agreement
that
that
needs
to
happen
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
see
if
we
can
get
that
happening
over
the
next
12
months.
And
it's
at
that
stage
that
that
would
start
coming
out.
Those
elements
would
start
coming
out
and
and
into
that
which
then
feed
into
so
many
other
parts
right.
S
So
you
get
into
the
tree
by
a
lot
you
get
into
development,
so
those
kind
of
pieces,
and
that's
where
I
think
we
want
to
seek
public
input
a
lot
of
public
input
into
that,
so
that
that
becomes
then
the
basis
for
the
vision
of
what
we
want
in
this
city.
In
terms
of
our
urban
forests
and
beyond
the
urban
forest
as
well,
I
would
say
also
the
rural
forest
area
too.
S
So
when
we
talk
about
managed
forests
and
things
like
that,
so
I
I
do
see
that
that
was
done
in
2011
that's
11
years
ago,
we're
probably
overdue
to
review
that
and
renew
it
and
determine
if
that
needs
to
change,
and
that
some
of
the
things
in
there
need
to
change
so,
and
I
think
those
elements
that
you're
talking
about
would
come
into
that.
If
that
makes
sense,
great.
B
J
Commissioner,
joyce
has
already
kind
of
alluded
to
this,
so
I
think
I
think
he's
already
partially
answered
this,
but
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
to
the
committee
in
public.
So
on
this
topic
of
of
big
picture
vision,
we've
talked
about
the
various
tools
and
the
various
plans
that
are
in
place
and
the
way
that
the
you
know
the
staff
structure
functions.
That's
all
we're
we're
used
to
that,
but
on
the
sort
of
big
picture
vision,
so
just
a
few
facts
to
frame
my
question.
J
So
what
does
a
drought
management
strategy
for
when
there's
no
rain
a
a
tree
health?
You
know
like
there
was
a
question
called
the
council
of
treaty
doctors
and
tree
health.
Like
you
know
an
accounting
of
tree
health
and
also
this
this
report
in
front
of
us,
which
is
the
canopy
now
and
we've
just
found
out
we're
gonna,
see
it
every
year.
What
are
all
those
things?
J
What
what
is
the
common
theme
of
all
those
things
is
that
existing
trees
are
much
more
or
contribute
or
what
create
or
what
the
tree
canopy
is
made
out
of.
It's
made
out
of
existing
trees,
so
protecting
existing
trees
and
watering
existing
trees,
counting
existing
trees
and
accounting
for
their
health.
J
This
is
prevention,
and
then
we
get
back
to
the
old.
This
is
very
high
level.
You
know
an
ounce
of
prevention.
You
know
in
healthcare.
We
talk
about
this
all
the
time
as
well.
I
tell
you
as
a
nurse
I'd
much.
Rather,
we
gave
patients
means
to
take
care
of
themselves
before
they
got
sick,
then
trying
to
help
them
through
stages
of
a
final
terminal
illness,
which
is
unfortunately,
a
big
part
of
my
job,
and
we've
got
that
opportunity
here
as
well.
J
So
I
guess
my
question
to
the
commissioner
is
those
high-level
conversations
that
the
commissioners
have
and
the
cio
has
and
that
you
need
to
have
with
planning.
This
is
a
theme
we're
hearing.
This
is
a
very
constant
theme.
We're
hearing
from
the
public
is
tree
preservation
and
tree
protection
and
changing
the
rules
so
that
developers
who
are
creating
hardscapes-
let's
be
honest,
that's
what
they're
doing.
J
How
can
they
minimize
their
negative
impact
on
the
tree?
Canopy
that
that
isn't,
I
don't
think
addressed
in
the
forest
management
plan
very
well
at
all,
and
maybe
when
it
gets
updated,
we'll
we'll
see
some
evidence
of
that.
But
is
there
anything
outside
of
those
high-level
conversations
that
you
have
because
you're
clearly
thinking
you're
getting
it?
You
hear
the
the
counselors.
You
hear
the
public
talking
about
protecting
trees,
so
you're,
obviously
thinking
about
it.
But
how
do
we
get
at
it
like?
J
How
is
how
is
staff
planning
to
it's
it's
by
far
cheaper
to
water
a
tree
than
to
replant
one
and
it's
by
far
cheaper
to
just
not
cut
one
down
than
to
plant
five
new
ones
to
replace
the
canopy
just
lost
like
if
you're
talking
about
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
us
to
get
this
tree?
Canopy
prevention
is
got
to
be
central,
so,
like
I
really,
I
think
I
think
you
get
it.
J
S
S
S
So
I
agree
wholeheartedly
that
that
we
want
to
try
to
maintain
as
many
trees
again
and
I
think,
the
the
discussions
that
we're
having
I
can
say
at
the
commissioner
level
between
commissioner
agnew,
commissioner
hugo
boss
and
myself
with
ben
okay.
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
start
to
make
some
changes?
What's
that
going
to
take
you
know,
the
official
plan
is,
is
a
big
one
and
it's
coming
up
for
for
renewal.
S
This
force
management
plan,
not
the
operating
plan,
that's
coming
in
june
june,
but
that
kingston's
urban
forest
management
plan
from
2011.
That's
a
start
that
we
want
to
get
that
done
before
the
official
plan
works
so
that
it
feeds
into
the
official
plan.
There's
the
subdivision
subdivision
development
guidelines
and
technical
standards
that
needs
to
be
updated,
addressed,
bring
into
piece
bring
into
those
pieces
so
that
we
can
have
more.
S
So
she's
going
to
be
taking
a
very
strong
look
at
that
maintenance
program
to
ensure
we
have
resources
and
we're
able
to
do
what
we
need
to
be
able
to
be
doing
to
actually
ensure
the
survivability
of
the
trees
that
we
have
and
that's
where
you
get
into
the
drought
piece.
So
there's
an
emergency
program
to
deal
with
those
kind
of
things.
B
J
G
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
staff
and
thank
the
forestry
staff
for
everything
they've
done,
because
I
know
with
all
the
tree
removals
for
emerald
ash
borer.
It
upsets
some
constituents
a
lot
or
like
lots
of
different
requests,
came
in.
I
just
know
that
eab
created
a
lot
of
time,
a
lot
of
things
on
their
to-do
list
that
the
forestry
never
had
to
deal
with.
J
I
know
it
was
in
a
previous
report,
but
for
the
benefit
of
the
members
of
the
public.
That
may
be
questioning
why
our
tree
canopy
didn't
really
grow.
It's
still
about
that
21
the
way
it's
calculated,
but
but
as
as
director
center,
she
said
in
the
report
it
it.
We
were
dealing
with
the
a
b
in
that
time.
Do
we.
J
R
J
Okay,
so
yeah
that
that's
great
to
hear,
because
that
you
really
have
it's
hard
to
put
positive
spin
on
the
emerald
ash
borer,
but
I
would
say
that
we
successfully
managed
that
crisis
and
managed
to
preserve
the
canopy
at
the
same
level.
Despite
that
that
significant
chunk
of
trees
that
were
lost.
So
thank
you
for
that
yeah.
I
returned
the
chair,
mr
chair.
B
Q
Hi
everybody,
I'm
gonna,
hope
you
hear
me.
I
first
allow
me
to
thank
the
city
clerk
for
helping
me
figure
out
how
to
address
people
here
she
went
above
and
beyond.
We
had
several
phone
calls,
so
thank
you
for
that.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
staff
and
counselors.
It's
been
very
good
heartening
for
me
to
see
you
wrestling
what
I
consider
an
extremely
important
issue.
So
I
appreciate
that
as
well.
I
do
have
some
relatively
quick
questions.
Q
The
first
one
is
about
the
davie
report,
which
puts
dollar
figures
to
the
benefits
of
trees.
It
was
already
mentioned
that
that
doesn't
include
all
benefits,
but
it
does
include
those
that
involve
greenhouse
gases,
and
I
wondered
whether
the
city
requires
developers
to
provide
the
amount
of
greenhouse
gases
that
will
be
increased
and
or
the
biodiversity
loss
by
cutting
down
trees
and
adding
hardscapes
and
buildings.
Q
Q
I'm
wondering
is
the
staff
tracking
what
these
percentages
were
like
in
previous
reports
to
see
if
there's
been
a
general
trend
toward
more
or
less
pavement
and
for
the
neighborhoods
that
lost
or
don't
have
much
plantable
land
has
deep.
Having
been
considered,
I
I've
heard
it
discussed
some.
I'm
gonna
assume
that
it's
only
just
now
getting
to
the
forefront
of
conversation.
Q
I
would
argue
that
tree
equity
would
actually
suggest
that
more
planting
should
be
done
in
those
areas
where
there
are
fewer
trees,
and
this
is
especially
important
from
not
only
the
benefits
that
were
so
articulately
enumerated
by
the
young
folks.
Forgive
me
for
phrasing
it
that
way,
but
also
for
just
socioeconomic
reasons
and
and
so
as
an
example.
Q
So
I'm
wondering
for
those
areas
whether
city,
owned
lands
will
be
given
priority
as
forests
and
as
an
example,
I
would
point
to
362
montreal
street,
which
has
a
large
piece
of
plantable
land,
currently
only
covered
with
grass.
As
I
understand
it,
both
housing
and
facilities
are
interested
in
land
in
the
land.
Given
the
critical
need
for
geared
to
income
housing,
is
it
possible
that
staff
would
consider
putting
both
housing
and
a
little
forest
on
that
piece
of
land?
For
the
record?
I
live
in
that
neighborhood.
Q
I
stand
ready
and
am
confident
we
could
recruit
community
members.
I
am
a
part
of
little
forest
kingston.
I've
already
had
a
bunch
of
people
who
have
been
interested
in
planting
a
little
forest
in
this
neighborhood
and
but
there's
a
lack
of
land,
but
there's
this
big
piece
of
city
land-
that's
right
there.
Q
So
I
I
will
tell
you
that
I
am
confident
we
could
recruit
a
whole
bunch
of
community
members
who
would
plant
care
for
a
little
for
us,
especially
if
it
was
integrated
with
some
with
some
gear
to
income
or
lower
income
housing.
Frankly,
what
I'd
love
to
do
is
is
to
have
that
be
a
real
model
if
we
can
integrate
housing
entries
in
a
way
that
could
be
a
model
from
an
ecological
standpoint
for
future
development.
Q
Like
all
of
you
on
this
zoom
call,
I
have
some
dreams
for
how
beautiful
and
resilient
this
city
could
be
and
and
can
be.
So
those
were
my
questions
and
I'd
like
to
thank
you
guys
for
considering
these
questions
and
suggestions.
You
all
have
very
difficult
jobs,
and
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
what
you
do.
Thank
you.
B
R
I
can
respond
to
a
few
of
those
and
commissioner
joyce,
if
you
have
some
responses
you
want
to,
you
had
asked
the
question
about
impervious
and
pervious
and
whether
we
are
tracking
the
changes
in
over
time.
This
is
the
first
report
that
we
have
tracks
those
to
this
degree
going
forward.
We
will
be
able
to
gather
some
of
that
information
through
our
true
candida
report.
R
S
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
So
I'm
not
sure
you
know
some
of
the
the
questions
probably
are
questions
that
are
multi-departmental,
of
course,
but
I'm
happy
to
take
away
some
of
that
and
have
some
discussions
to.
I
think
he
was
referencing
362
montreal
street,
which
is
where
our
social
services
and
housing
develop
our
crew.
S
So
I
recall,
as
I
looked
at
that
land
for
something
else
at
one
point
in
time,
but
certainly
were
interested
from
a
public
works
perspective
and
from
the
city
perspective,
as
director
santucci
has
alluded,
we're
interested
in
putting
trees
wherever
we
can
put
trees
so
we're
happy
to
partner
and
to
to
look
at
those
opportunities,
and
I
would
certainly
would
would
commiserate
with
that
comment
that
we
should
be
looking
at
those
kind
of
places
whenever
we
can
and
certainly
public
works
will
be
there
to
do
planting.
If
we
need
to
do
planting.
L
D
L
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
if
there
is
any
way
we
can
keep
track
as
citizens
of
how
many
trees
are
going
to
be,
have
been
cut
down
and
how
many
are
on
various
pieces
of
property
that
will
be
cut
down.
For
example,
I
think
we
I
heard
that
there
are
2226
trees
being
cut
down
on
clogged
road.
We
know
that
the
tannery
site
has
1800
trees.
We
know
that
patri
cut
down
200
trees
at
sydney,
road
and
princess.
L
L
S
Joyce,
thank
you
for
you
and
I'll
probably
disappoint
her
immensely
here,
because
I
don't
think
I
can
answer
that.
That's
part
of
the
development
side
of
the
house
but
happy
to
take
that
away
and
if
she
provides
that
to
the
clerks,
we
can
try
to
provide
and
answer
the
discussion
with
commissioner
aidan.
A
B
O
Certainly,
okay,
so
I
wasn't
specifically
tracking
whether
my
questions
arose
from
the
actual
presentations
or
comments
and
questions
that
followed
the
presentations.
But
regardless
I
will
ask
the
questions.
So
the
first
question
I
have
would
be
for
the
most
part
directed
to
is
it
commissioner
santucci?
Have
I
got
that
correct?
O
No
director
cancer,
ms
santucci,
who
referenced
tree
health,
but
certainly
both
staff
could
speak
to
this,
and
there
was
a
comment
that,
if
I
understood
it
correctly,
it
was
that
as
trees
begin
to
be
less
healthy
or
die,
they
might
be
removed.
And
my
question
but
also
comment
with
regard
to
that
is
by
what
criteria.
So
the
question
would
be
by
what
criteria
are?
O
Is
it
being
determined
that
a
tree
may
no
longer
be
useful,
and
my
comment
might
be
that
again
to
embrace
this
more
holistic
vision
of
what
makes
a
tree
a
contributing
tree
to
the
community
of
kingston?
Is
that
an
older
tree?
In
fact,
I
actually
want
to
point
to
the
research
regarding
mother
trees
by
suzanne
simard.
An
older
tree
might
actually
have
a
huge
contribution
to
make
as
it's
nearing
end
of
life
or
even
limbs,
falling
off
holes
in
it
because
it
becomes
habitat
for
wildlife.
O
The
second
question
would
be
directed
to
both
staff
members
here
tonight,
because
I
heard
mr
joyce
mentioned
that
we're
moving
away.
I
didn't
I
wrote
it
down,
but
it's
hard
to
find
all
my
notes,
moving
away
from
the
notion
of
counting
trees
towards
the
notion
of
canopy,
so
the
question
that
arose
for
me
after
having
hearing
that
heard,
that
was.
O
So
I
just
had
some
questions
about
that,
and
and-
and
perhaps
my
suggestion
would
be-
some
kind
of
hybrid,
between
numbers
of
trees
and
canopy
might
even
actually
be
more
logical,
it's
yeah
and
then
the
third
question
isn't
about
trees
unless
you're,
of
course,
taking
a
holistic
approach.
But
it
was
it
was
when
counselor
neil
asked
about
the
boulevard,
wildflower
programs-
and
he
said
one
of
the
presenters
was
complaining
about
the
amount
of
grass.
I
think
he
was
referencing.
O
My
presentation,
I
suppose
I
was
complaining
about
the
amount
of
grass
was
that
boulevard
wildflower
program.
I
believe
I've
driven
past
it
on
sir
john
a
macdonald,
and
it
looks
like
a
very
small
plot,
so
the
question
would
be
again:
would
tree
planting
be
married
with
and
undertaken
in
conjunction
with
other
kinds
of
habitat
and
greenery?
R
Thank
you
and
for
you,
and
thank
you
for
the
questions
in
regards
to
the
tree
health.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
our
staff
are
all
arborists
and
they
became
arbor's
harbors
because
they
love
trees,
so
they
aren't
looking
to
cut
down
any
trees
that
don't
necessarily
have
to
cut
down
trees.
So
when
I
talked
about
older
or
damaged
or
dying
trees,
there's
a
couple
things
they
look
at.
First
of
all,
they
look
at
what
they
can
plant
before
that.
R
If
they
know
tree
is
getting
to
a
point
where
it's
not
looking
like
it's
going
to
look
much
longer.
What
can
they
plant
in
that
area?
Just
get
it
started
before
another
tree?
They
have
to
remove
that
tree
when
they
look
at
removal.
Definitely
public
safety
is
the
first
priority
and
that's
a
big
part
of
our
big
part
of
our
tree
inventory
is
to
do
a
bit
of
a
risk
assessment,
understand
public
safety
issues
that
could
result
from
those
trees.
R
So
we
do
look
at
that
as
as
part
of
that
and
then
once
that
tree
does
have
to
be
removed.
Again,
we've
looked
to
see
if
those
trees
we
can
plant
before
that
and
then
replacing
that
tree
once
it's
once,
we
do
have
to
take
it
down
so
any
tree
we
do
take
down.
Typically,
we
will
plant
two
trees
in
its
place
and
sometimes
more
depending
on
the
situation.
R
S
S
The
intention
is
to
ensure
that
we
are
putting
in
trees
that
are
going
to
protect
our
biodiversity
and
also
provide
the
tree
benefits
that
we're
looking
for
in
the
long
term.
So
looking
at
some
of
those
heart
of
your
tree
species
as
well
as
their
native
species,
so
it
is
to
protect
that
there
is
no
intent
to
you
know:
try
to
gain
this
in
any
way
to
plant
only
trees
that
have
really
large
canopies.
S
Not
at
all.
We
want
a
very
biodiverse
urban
forest
in
the
city
of
kingston,
and
that
is
the
full
intent
and
that's
again
why
you
know
we'll
still
provide
the
count,
the
number
of
trees
that
we're
planting
and
and
we'll
also
in
the
future,
provide
sort
of
the
numbers,
the
species,
so
that
we
can
see
that
we
are
getting
that
diverse
mix.
That
that
is
so
critical
and
I've
heard
this
repeatedly
from
the
forestry
staff.
So
that's
why
I'm
not
too
concerned
about
it
so
yeah.
I
think
you
know
addressing
that.
T
Just
north
of
eunice
drive
between
eunice
drive
and
the
kp
trail.
So
I
I
would
really
like
to
encourage
council
to
look
at
the
the
threat.
I
see
that
current
development
practices
pose
to
mature
tree
canopy
that
we
already
have,
and
and
by
by
that
I
mean
currently
developers,
go
start
prepping
a
site,
sometimes
even
before
any
planning
is
on
the
books,
with
city
of
kingston
and
and
they'll
start
with
clearing
and
eventually
down
the
clear-cutting
trees.
I
mean
and
then
down
the
road.
T
T
But
can
we
change
policy
to
obligate
developers
to
to
do
that
inventory
at
the
forefront
rather
than
clear,
cutting
and
replanting
and
and
that
would
really
entail
a
whole
revamp
of
of
policy
and
and
how
development
happens?
But
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
there
conversation
about
making
that
something
that
happens
in
the
earlier
stages,
where
inventory
of
of
maturities
happens
and
developers
might
be
obligated
to
conserve
rather
than
clear
and
replant,
and
then
my
other
question
related
to.
T
D
D
B
U
We
have
previously
approached
the
city
trying
to
get
a
lot
for
a
perket
because,
as
you
may
recognize,
there's
very
little
green
trees
or
anything
along
the
new
williansville
corridor
redevelopment.
So
we're
happy
to
see
the
students
come
forward
with
this
idea.
We
would
like
to
see
more
of
this
type
of
thing.
U
U
These
would
be
green
boulevards
and,
unfortunately,
we
keep
seeing
development
after
development,
and
I
really
wonder
where
the
green
boulevards
are
going
to
happen
because
more
and
more
pavement
is
occurring,
so
we
would
be
happy
to
work
with
members
of
staff
in
any
way
that
we
could.
If,
if
you
would
like
to
approach
this
community
association,
the
williamsville
community
association,
about
where
we
would
like
trees,
we
would
be
happy
to
tell
you
where
we'd
like
trees
and
right
now,
it's
the
green
streets.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
we
would
love
to
work
with
the
community
groups
in
williamsville.
I
have
started
reaching
out
to
some
of
the
groups
and
definitely
will
reach
out
to
that
group.
Williamsville
is
an
area
that
we
are
trying
to
do
some
targeting
on
to
make
sure
we
can
get
some
some
additional
trees
in
that
area
and
again
I
I
will
reach
out
to
the
community
groups
in
that
area.
As
soon
as
I
can.
D
A
A
B
B
J
It
it
is
clear
to
me-
and
I
I
guess
I
alluded
to
this
when
I
commented
to
the
second
presenter-
about
the
high
quality
slide
presentation
that
we
were
receiving.
I
mean
I
don't
know
about
the
newer
counselors
here,
but
the
counselors
that
have
been
on
council
for
a
while
must
be
like.
Like
me,
a
little
bit
impressed
by
the
way
committee.
J
The
interaction
with
the
committees
has
changed
over
the
years.
I
guess
you
could
say,
but
particularly
on
this
subject
of
trees
and
our
tree
canopy
and
the
health
of
our
of
our
of
the
city's
trees,
I
mean
you.
We
we
got
great
engagement
today
and
high
quality
engagement.
Today
we
got
thought
provoking
commentary
from
you
know
many
members
of
the
public
and
and
we
we
got
six
delegations-
and
this
is
for
an
in
one
single
information
report
item
at
a
committee.
J
The
picture
of
how
important
this
issue
is,
so
just
remind
everyone
that
trees
are
cheap
and
a
source
of
great
joy
for
many
of
our
residents
and
therefore
I
do
not
regret
spending
three
hours
on
it
tonight.
I
like
to
thank
all
my
community
members
for
their
useful
comments
and,
of
course,
staff
has
clearly
demonstrated
tonight
that
this
is
an
important
priority
and
that
a
vast
amount
of
work
has
been
done
by
public
works
already
and
will
continue
to
get
done.
J
I
think
public
works
has
has
actually
transformed
from
what
it
was
when
I
was
a
child
into
something,
much
much
different
and
much
more
proactive,
and
I
think
that
makes
me
proud
to
be
to
be
involved
and
be
able
to
witness
this
all
I
like
to
say
that
that
director
santucci,
please
please
pass
on
to
your
staff
that
this
counselor
is
very
appreciative
of
everything
that
public
works
has
been
doing
and
all
the
hard
work
on
this
file
specifically.
Thank
you.
J
Okay,
so
yes,
the
we're
now
on
section,
eight,
anyone
following
the
agenda,
so
we
just
finished
section
seven,
which
was
business.
Add
one
item
now
we're
on
section
eight,
which
is
motions.
So
we
have
one
motion
to
the
committee.
It's
moved
by
councillor
neal
seconded
by
councillor
dougherty,
whereas
the
2010
williamsville
secondary
plan
recommended
parquets
and
green
space
along
the
williamsville
princess
street
corridor,
whereas
developers
preferred
to
provide
payment
in
lieu
of
parkland,
so
few
parquets
were
achieved
to
date.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
I
particularly
want
to
thank
the
three
queen
students
in
the
health
sciences
department
who
met
with
me
and
a
couple
of
the
community
people.
Actually,
we
met,
I
believe
three
times,
and
they
were
very,
very
keen
to
bring
this
this
motion
forward,
and
so
I
sincerely
want
to
thank
them.
I
also
want
to
thank
my
seconder.
B
B
What's
called
payment
in
lieu
of
parkland,
a
donation
and
with
all
due
respect
to
council,
osanic
and
others
who
represent
the
suburban
areas,
that's
where
that
money
typically
gets
spent,
because
so
so.
This
is
an
opportunity
I
think,
to
prioritize
and
and
seek
the
potential
for
creating
more
green
space
in
the
core
of
the
city,
and
this
should
also
apply
to
kingstown
and
sydney
and
other
areas
that
that,
when
there's
development,
sometimes
we
lose
the
opportunity
for
increasing
green
space.
B
D
J
J
H
Your
presentation
was
very
professional
and
we
touched
on
on
all
the
benefits,
but
also
you
included
the
the
collaborative
nature
of
this
project.
You
worked
with
a
lot
of
groups.
You
clearly
did
your
homework
quite
proud
to
support
this.
This
motion,
it
is
it's
actually
something
that
we
need.
We
really
need
should
have
gardens
community
gardens
absolutely
everywhere
and
that's
certainly
the
way
we
will
be
heading
into
the
future,
and
this
is
just
a
great
addition
to
kingston.
So,
thanks
for
for
all
of
your
hard
work
and
working
with
casani.
A
U
Thank
you
very
much.
Once
again,
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I'm
sure
the
williansville
community
association
will
be
happy
to
support
this
motion.
I
had
not
seen
it
in
writing,
but
we
have
talked
among
ourselves
and
with
counselor
neil
and
the
people
who
presented
that
this
is
what
we
would
like
to
see.
So
I
will
speak
on
their
behalf
and
say
we
would
support
this
motion.
Thank
you.
J
B
J
The
floor
is
yours,
yeah
just
quickly,
so
I
believe
it's
on
the
addendum
correspondence
from
members
of
the
public
is
that
right,
it's
on
the
addendum?
Yes,
so
on
the
addendum,
so
two
committee
members
and
members
of
the
public
hear
present.
Please
read
the
communication
from
members
of
the
public
in
the
addendum.
There
is
another
yet
another
excellent
presentation
contained
in
that
email
from
joyce
austin.
J
It's
almost
like
another
committee
report,
honestly
this
email,
so
I
really
recommend
it
as
a
for
all
to
make
sure
you
don't
miss
that
it
was
on
the
addendum
and
I
I've
only
read
it
right
before
the
meeting
started
and
I
was
quite
impressed
and
it
is
quite
informative.
So
I'd
like
to
pass
that
on
to
all
to
take
a
look
at
joyce
austin's
letter.
Thank
you.
Thank.