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EITP meeting from June 25, 2019. For the full meeting agenda visit http://bit.ly/2KOVQZo
A
A
A
A
A
So
it's
so
commentary
from
Keefe
on
the
Official.
Plan
wording
is
that
okay,
so
we
need
a
seconder
to
add
that
to
under
other
business,
saying
accounts
are
Holland,
so
we'll
that's
just
added
to
the
agenda.
If
the
agenda
passes,
it's
with
that
added
item,
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
so
then
there's
three
items
on
the
agenda
now
next
is
confirmation
of
minutes,
but
this
is
a
special
meeting,
so
there
aren't
any
any
disclosure
of
pecuniary
interest.
A
Briefing
no
briefing
so
just
straight
to
business
item
a
so
this
is
the
report
received
from
Keefe
the
Kingston
environmental
advisory
for
mandate,
the
updated
mandate
and
then
the
kinks
environmental
value
forum
report
card
for
2018.
So
we'll
go
to
that.
First
item
item:
seven,
a
number
one
that
member
of
staff
here
that
can
introduce
that
report
and
then
we'll
go
through
the
procedures
go
ahead.
Mr.
McCotter,
mr.
B
Chair
members
of
the
committee
Keith
received
this
report.
Gosh
I,
don't
have
the
date
in
front
of
me,
but
they
received
it
and
recommend
or
a
dot
accepted
the
recommendations
to
change
the
Mandate
of
Keef.
This
comes
about
because,
as
many
people
know,
the
business
of
Keef
has
been
challenging
over
the
last
few
years.
Difficulty
focusing
on
specific
tasks
that
are
before
them.
B
The
recommended
changes
are
four
fold
or
I
should
say
really
threefold:
we
we
aim
for
four
things
and
they
are
focusing
the
Mandate
of
Keef
to
focus
on
an
annual
state
of
the
environment
report
and
working
on
assignments
from
that
that
are
directed
them
from
Council.
The
second
thing
is
reducing
the
size
of
the
committee
right
now.
This
committee,
that
believe,
is
21
people
and
we're
recommending
a
reduction
in
the
number
of
public
representatives.
B
That
won't
happen
immediately.
That'll
happen
over
time
through
attrition
until
the
committee
gets
to
the
target
size.
The
third
thing
is:
removing
standing
committees
from
Keef
one
of
Chiefs
problems
was
they
had
standing
committees
that
were
that
were
regularly
meeting
on
a
certain
topic,
even
though
there
wasn't
always
an
assignment
before
Keef.
On
that
topic
from
Council,
so
it
made
it
a
little
bit
difficult
for
them
to
to
do
their
work
and
for
the
members
of
those
working
groups
to
remain
interested.
I
think
so.
B
We're
removing
the
mandate
from
standing
committees
to
ad-hoc
committees,
so
Keith
can
create
or
create
recommendations
to
create
ad-hoc
committees
that
will
allow
them
to
respond
to
whatever
issue
is
before
them
from
Council.
The
fourth
thing
we
wanted
to
do
was
change
the
way
the
technical
representatives
on
Keef
function,
because
there's
quite
a
number
of
them
absences
of
technical
representatives
were
challenging
Orme
of
Keef.
B
We
wanted
to
find
a
way
where
technical
representatives
could
act
as
almost
like
ex
officio
members
and
attend
on
an
as-needed
basis
or
attend
without
voting
privileges,
but
there's
nothing
in
our
committee
bylaws.
That
would
had
to
happen.
So
we,
apart
from
reducing
the
number
of
technical
representatives
from
Queens
University
from
two
to
one,
there
was
no
changes
to
the
technical
representatives
in
the
mandate,
so
the
mandate
has
been
adjusted
and
it
would
be
enacted
through
an
amendment
to
the
committee's
bylaw.
A
C
Thank
you,
I
just
wondered,
I,
don't
know
much
about
heath,
but
I'm
just
wondering
about
the
process
to
get
to
this
point
and
how
it's
been
received
and
what
kind
of
support
there
is
within
the
present
structure
and
is
it
by
common
consent,
or
is
this
something
that
is
readily
understood
as
necessary?
What's
what's
it
been
like
I,
don't
know
much
about
it.
Maybe
you
can
tell
me
I.
B
Think
through
you,
mr.
chair,
in
my
opinion,
looking
at
how
Keefe
has
operated
over
the
last
three
or
four
years
and
some
of
the
issues
of
attrition
that
we've
seen
and
people
coming
on
to
keep
with
certain
expectations
and
believing
I
think
think.
That's
a
measure
of
some
of
the
challenges
that
were
present
within
the
committee,
so
I
think
there
is
a
especially
amongst
those
on
the
committee
that
have
some
experience
there.
A
B
D
I'm
on
Keith-
and
it
was
an
excellent
report
that
staff
Rob
forward
and
we
had
a
very
thorough
discussion
and
there
were
it's
a
lot
of
new
faces
on
Keith,
but
there
were
some
initially
some
hesitation
or
some
concerns
that
were
expressed,
but
I
think
they
were
all
appropriately
addressed.
And,
as
we
heard
when,
in
the
discussion
around
councillor
sanics
motion
and
the
setting
up
of
a
working
group
for
climate
change,
there
was
recognition
that
there's
a
place
for
Keith
within
the
whole
are
climate
change.
D
Climate
crisis
focus
that
that
we've
committed
to
so
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
an
opportunity
to
do
things,
both
in
collaboration
and
as
a
continuance
of
the
good
work
that
the
Climate
Change
Action
Group
will
be
doing
because
they
have
a
very
ambitious
date
in
October
to
be
finished
by
and
clearly
that
will
just
be
setting
up
and
starting
the
whole
process
at
that
time.
So
it's
good
that
we
have
a
standing
committee
with
a
mandate
that
can
address
and
make
recommendations
to
to
address
climate
change
and
climate
crisis.
So
thank
you.
A
A
B
Is
correct
and
there
is
a
spot
for
a
representative
for
st.
Lawrence
College
that
is
not
filled,
and
that
is
the
that
is
the
choice
of
the
of
the
agencies
that
are
invited
to
participate
in
Keefe.
They
they
don't
have
to
send
a
representative
if
they
don't
wish
and
if
they
don't,
the
spot
remains
vacant
and
it
does
not
impact
quorum.
A
Though
so
logically
follows
that
so
at
the
moment
the
public
membership
portion
is
above
the
number
recommended
in
the
report,
but
as
people
drop
off
it
will
come
down
to
that
number
and
then
nominations
will
get
the
word
if
it
goes
under
that
number
to
replace
those,
but
for
the
technical
representatives,
they've
already
been
invited
and
if
they
are
sitting
vacant
that
just
is
not
part
of
forums.
It
just
sits
like
that,
because
it's
not
it's
a
voluntary
participation.
A
E
Thank
you
and,
through
your
note,
the
difference
between
the
mandate
to
fulfill
or
support
councils
direction,
I
suppose
versus
the
ad
hoc
groups.
So
so
I
guess
in
thinking
about
the
process.
Then,
if
there
was
something
that
comes
forward
that
is
not
currently
been
brought
forward
through
strategic
planning
or
or
recent
motions
relate
to
the
environment,
then
that
would
be.
There
would
be
some
direction
to
Keeffe
to
form
a
working
group
to
do
the
work
and
then
report
back
to
Council.
Is
that
how
it
would
work.
B
Through
yes,
that's
one
way
it
could
work.
One
way
it
could
work
within
the
current
mandate
structure
is
when
Keefe
provides
an
annual
state
of
the
environment
report.
They
may
flag
emerging
issues
and
they're
not
currently
on
a
strategic
radar
of
Council
and
that
that
may
precipitate
some
action
that
way,
but
the
action
is
from
Council
to
Keefe
to
to
undertake
some
research
or
work
or
whatever.
A
F
B
D
I'll
repeat
a
little
bit
of
what
I
said
at
the
Keith
meeting
when
we
were
discussing
it,
Keith
was
originally
formed
in
2010,
thanks
to
the
enthusiasm
of
Leonor
Foster
and
Bob
Foster
2001
yep.
What
what
did
I
say?
No,
that's
when
I
started
2001
was
when
it
began
and
they
were
very,
very
active
for
over
a
decade
and
sharing
ideas,
bringing
ideas
forward
and
but
I
think
we
were
a
little
more
reliant
on
them
at
the
time
because
because
we
didn't
necessarily
have
a
lot
of
a
full
skill
set
within
our
staff,
it
wasn't.
D
We
have
a
much
richer
skill
set
within
our
staff
today,
so
gradually
Keith
kind
of
fell
off
that
active
role
between
staff
and
and
and
Keith,
and
there
was
a
little
bit
of
frustration
because
there
were
never
ever
any
encouragement
for
Keef
to
ever
make
comments
about
the
third
crossing,
which
is
unfortunate
because
there
were
a
number
of
people
on
Keef
at
the
time.
I
was
on
ki
Fateh,
okay,.
A
A
G
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair,
thanks
for
the
report
and
the
questions
so
far
and
the
commentary
from
staff
so
I'm,
someone
who
follows
Keith
I've
been
to
quit
number
beans
or
last
several
years,
and
scientists
interested
in
environmental
stuff
and
activists
as
well
so
I'm
gonna
start
by
praising
the
work
of
Keith.
That's
been
done
for
nearly
the
past
20
years
going
along
with
comments
from
the
committee
on
that
I
think
it's
been
a
really
essential
part
of
progress
in
the
city.
Work.
That's
been
done.
G
G
G
Second,
one
is
a
trivet
eight
combination,
question
and
suggestion
I'm
wondering
if
increased
effectiveness
and
productivity
could
be
obtained
through
Keith,
with
respect
to
certain
complex
planning
files
which
have
been
coming
up
in
recent
years.
I'll
give
three
examples
for
that:
we
had
a
proposal
on
mining
the
last
night
out
in
the
countryside
area
as
an
extension
of
mine
that
was
in
the
Thousand
Islands
Township
came
to
planning
recently
and
then
to
Council.
G
My
next
point
is
a
continuation
of
this
last
point
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
been
any
comparison
done
with
respect
to
Keith
concerning
other
Ontario
and
Canada,
miss
counties
of
similar
size
on
the
mandate
that
it
faces
and
the
workload
and
so
forth.
I
know
the
kief
is
at
the
time
it
was
created.
I
think
was
a
virtually
a
leading-edge
idea
for
a
City
of
Kingston,
sighs,
so
I
command
and
everything
that
that
has
been
done
by
Council
and
there's
the
community
and
staff
on
them
right.
G
We're
aiming
to
be
Canada's,
more
sustainable,
City
and
I.
Think
Keith's
effort
has
been.
You
know,
monumental
and
very
important,
just
wondering
if
at
any
point
there
has
been
an
actual
comparison
done,
how
are
we
doing
sake
prepared
to
Guelph
or
Victoria
or
or
those
cities?
So
I
guess
that's
the
end
of
my
comments.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
and
to
respond
to
mr.
Dixon's
questions.
The
first
one
was
about
staff
time
that
is
dedicated
towards
supporting
Keefe.
That,
frankly,
is
is
difficult
to
estimate
some
issues
require
more
time
than
others,
but
for
each
chief
meeting
that
happens,
there's
generally
two
staff
people
there
to
support
it,
a
technical
person
and
a
clerk
so
you're
in
the
order
of
six
hours
per
meeting
just
in
terms
of
attendance.
Now,
if
there
are
matters
before
the
committee
that
require
reports,
then
there's,
however
many
hours
go
into.
Writing
those
reports.
B
Reviewing
those
reports
in
the
administrative
process
of
getting
the
report
on
the
agenda,
so
I
don't
have
a
clean
answer
for
you,
but
it's
it's
not
a
I'm,
not
gonna,
characterize
it
as
a
major
burden
on
staff,
but
it
does
contribute
to
the
workload
of
staff
at
different
amounts
depending
on
the
type
of
issue.
That's
that's
before
Keefe
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point,
but
you
recall,
when
Keef
received
a
pipeline
report
on
the
line,
nine
pipeline
report,
that
was
a
significant
amount
of
work
for
staff
to
pull
all
that
together.
B
Other
other
reports
have
been
not
not
so
resource
intensive.
The
second
question
you
have
was
about
whether
or
not
Keith
can
work
on
some
of
the
complex
planning
files
that
you
mentioned.
That
is
always
an
option
for
for
city
council
to
direct
that
kind
of
work
towards
Keith,
but
they
would
always
have
to
be
very
cognizant
of
the
timelines
associated
with
doing
so.
The
planning
files
have
to
be
dealt
with
in
a
in
a
certain
timeline,
whether
it's
sight
line,
control
or
subdivision
or
or
whatever
the
case.
Whatever.
B
That's
that's
not
something
we
have
looked
at
recently
when
we
initially
formed
Keefe
and
during
its
first
few
years
we
did
reach
out
to
other
cities
to
see
what
they
had
done.
Cornwall
was
an
early
example.
They
had
an
environmental
Advisory
Committee.
It
was
set
up
a
more
task.
Oriented
I
forget
what
the
issue
was,
that
they
were
dealing
with.
To
be
honest,
but
it
was.
It
was
a
single
issue
that
they
had
set
up.
B
The
advisory
committee
to
deal
with
Durham
was
also
examined
and
they
had
more
of
a
community
sustainability,
Advisory
Committee,
so
a
slightly
broader
mandate
that
eventually
morphed
into
providing
support
for
the
development
of
that
communities,
integrated
community
sustainability
plan.
So
they
started
with
a
broad
mandate
kind
of
like
what
Keefe
did
and
eventually
found
their
way
into
a
into
a
narrowed
focus
as
well,
but
it
has
been
I'm
gonna,
say
at
least
eight
or
nine
years
since
we've
looked
at
other
communities
and
whether
or
not
they
have
similar
similar
committees.
A
Okay,
so
now
we
go
to
deliberations
of
the
business
item,
it
does
have
a
recommendation.
It's
essentially
the
recommendation
is
that
the
updated
mandate
exhibit
B
be
accepted.
A
accepted
recommend
to
council
that
the
bylaw
to
define
the
mandated
meeting
procedures
for
the
committee's
established
by
the
corporation
City
Canton
be
amended
as
per
Exhibit
B.
So
the
the
amendments
that
are
in
the
report
B
be
officially
done
to
be
amended
right.
So
the
that
would
change
the
bylaw.
So
that's
the
item
and
it
needs
to
be
moved
and
seconded
to
get
it
on
the
floor.
A
A
So
I
guess
that
would
be
just
a
staff
on
that
point.
So
that
would
be
a
situation
where
Keith
might
recommend
to
this
committee
that
a
working
group
on
pipelines
say
be
struck
and
then
this
committee,
if
it
passed
it,
would
go
to
counsel
and
counsel,
would
say,
yea
or
nay.
Is
that
how
that
would
work?
Correct.
B
Was
the
concern
of
the
committee
was
that
some
people
thought
the
wording
that
was
being
proposed
would
require
Keith
to
basically
sit
by
and
wait
for
instruction
on
working
groups
from
from
Council
and
wasn't
the
intention?
The
intention
was
that
if
Keith
want
saw
saw
need
for
an
ad
hoc
working
group,
they
could
raise
that
as
a
recommendation
and
bring
it
to
Council
right.
A
And
standing
my
loss,
and
maybe
the
clerk
can
confirm
that
remember.
The
public
can
also
do
that.
If
remember
public
thinks
we
need
to
have
a
working
group
on
water
novels
of
the
Seaway,
for
example,
they
could
suggest
that
you
know
in
a
letter,
and
then
it
would
be
up
to
a
member
of
this
committee
to
make
a
motion
right
is
I
mean
that's
kind
of
thing.
If
we
got
it
a
suggestion
from
remember
the
public.
H
Yes,
definitely
the
mechanisms
by
ye
members
of
council
choose
to
put
motions
forward,
can
sort
of
it's
at
your
discretion.
Excuse
me
at
your
discretion.
So
if
you
do
receive
a
letter
from
the
member
of
public,
it
is
up
to
a
member
of
the
council
to
determine
if
they
want
to
move
motion,
but
that
would
be
appropriate.
I
D
One
quotation
as
I
understand
it
under
the
terms
of
reference.
The
intention
is
clearly
that
council
has
an
opportunity,
or
we
do
through
Council,
to
engage
Keith
either
on
a
research
role
or
to
come
up
with
recommendations
or
suggestions
in
clearly-defined
motions.
But
it's
my
understanding
that,
under
the
terms
of
reference
Keith,
if
they
decide
on
an
initiative,
it
can
come
as
a
Keefe
report
to
this
committee
and
then
on
to
Council
for
approval.
B
B
So
that
means
council
can
ask
for
advice
and
work
from
Keith
and
and
if
Keith
was
to
identify
something
that
I
thought
was
important
through.
Perhaps
the
state
of
Environment
reporting
or
something
like
that.
It
has
the
opportunity
to
put
that
bug
in
the
air
of
council
so
to
speak
and
seek
and
seek
authority
to
do
further
work.
D
And
I'm
looking
forward
to
always
having
quorum
now,
which
wasn't
always
the
case
in
the
past
and
I,
think
clearly,
we
still
want
the
commitment
of
technical
advisors,
but
by
not
making
them
voting,
members
will
still
value
value
their
input,
but
but
they'll
be
able
to
reach
quorum.
Won't
we
or
is
there
a
correction
in
there?
Yes,.
B
Sorry
three
chair:
the
technical
members
remain
voting
members
of
Keith,
okay.
D
B
D
A
Can
remember
who
the
Vice
Chair
is,
but
I
would
like
them
to
take
the
chair.
Councillor
Doherty
can
I,
have
you
take
the
chair?
So
I
can
speak
yeah.
Thank
you,
okay!
So
as
I'm
just
a
committee
member
I'd
like
to
but
I,
was
happy
to
see,
the
basic
concept
of
an
updated
mandate
come
to
Keefe
and
I
was
also
chair
of
the
Heritage
Committee
for
the
last
four
years,
and
it
went
through
some
changes
and
got
an
updated
mandate
and
and
I
guess
to
that's
not
relevant
to
this
report.
A
But
I'm
just
saying,
I
I
went
through
that
process
with
heritage
and
the
idea
of
keeping
an
advisory
group
fresh
by
having
an
update
like
an
up-to-date
mandate,
is
an
excellent
one.
So
the
question
really
for
us
in
my
mind,
is:
does
this
report
and
do
the
changes
to
the
schedule
in
the
schedule
doot-doot?
A
Is
it
satisfactory,
so
I
would
say
on
the
point
of
reducing
the
membership
size.
I
agree
100%
with
that
suggestion
and
I
would
even
suggest
that
you
might
even
need
to
reduce
it
further
in
the
future,
because
I
know
from
heritage.
We
had
13
members
at
one
point
and
that
was
that's
the
size
of
council.
It's
a
little.
That's
in
my
mind.
It's
like
once
you're
the
size
of
council
or
bigger,
which
Keith
was
bigger.
You
no
longer
can
have
really.
You
have
a
very
formal
structuring.
A
You
don't
have
a
chance
for
everyone
to
give
commentary,
and
you
have
problems
with
with
participation,
I
guess
and
I
would
say
this
size.
Six.
Six
of
us
is
an
excellent
size
for
targeted
work,
which
is
what
working
groups
tend
to
be
smaller
groups
right,
so
hopefully
that
we
can
get
smaller
groups
coming
out
to
Keith
for
targeted
work
for
working
groups.
And
then
the
question
is:
is
a
you
know,
seven
or
six,
six
techno
representatives
and
twelve?
Is
it
twelve?
A
Oh,
wait
it's
down
to
7
mm
public
from
12,
so
that's
five,
less
members
of
the
public,
so
I
would
say
to
the
point
of
whether
it's
reducing
the
size,
enough
I,
would
say:
you're
still
left
with
13
members.
However,
you've
you've
removed
six
members,
so
you're,
either
there
or
halfway
there,
depending
on
what
we
see
from
the
new
group,
but
we
may
get.
A
We
may
hit
the
other
side
of
things,
which
is
people
saying
there
aren't
enough
spots
on
the
committee
for
the
members
of
the
public
that
actually
have
really
a
lot
to
contribute
and
I
would
say
that
could
be
legitimate.
But
at
the
same
time
we
have
this
other
working
group
that
councillor
Dority
is
on
that
may
give
opportunity
to
connect
some
of
that
commentary
from
members
of
the
public.
A
Hopefully
it
does,
but
if
it
doesn't,
TV
will
logically
have
to
be
open
to
have
non
members
offering
input
to
to
what
they're
doing
and
maybe
remember,
public
attending
chief
meetings
and
participating
the
way
that
you
in
other
groups
and
I
guess
mr.
Kirk
that
that's
permitted
right.
The
public
can
attend
to
keep
meetings
and
speak
to
the
committee.
That
is
correct.
A
So
I
guess
when
nominations
doesn't
have
any
work
to
do,
because
we
have
too
many
members
right
now,
but
when
we
have
to
fill
things
in
the
future,
we're
probably
it's
gonna,
be
like
Ted
Coe,
where
we
get
like
thirty
forty.
Fifty
eight
hundred
applications
to
sit
on
Keefe
and
we
might
only
have
one
spot
open
at
the
time.
So.
D
A
I'm,
okay
with
it,
but
just
one
to
point
out
that
aspect
that
it's
probably
gonna
have
there's
gonna,
be
some
growing
pains
involved
and
to
me
the
priority
should
always
remain
get
it
small
enough
and
lean
enough
to
be
able
to
function
properly,
which
I
think
this
update
a
minute
takes
us
a
long
way
there,
so
I
will
support
it.
Thank
you.
A
Hey,
so
we've
moved
in
second
of
the
recommendation
and
I
don't
hear
anyone
suggesting
any
amendments.
Does
anyone
out
for
us
to
speak
before
we
call
the
question
we
can
vote
on
it
without
council,
hafez
12
quorum,
so
all
those
in
favor
opposed.
So
that's
five
in
favor
and
that's
unanimous.
Okay,
that's
that
item
next,
the
kief
report
card
for
2018
our
staff
here
to
introduce
that
item.
B
G
You
know
just
one
item,
I
think
it's
already
been
talked
about
in
the
earlier
discussion.
The
working
group
recently
set
up
by
council
looking
for
so-called
quick
hits
on
greenhouse
gas
reduction
and
climate
change
topics,
especially
responding
to
the
climate
of
see
declaration
by
council.
That
looks
like
it's
something
that
may
take
the
place
of.
What's
on,
say,
page
seven,
that's
been
stroked,
oh
right,
say:
climate
change
and
energy
use.
This
working
group
shall
undertake
and
so
forth.
B
A
Yes,
so
just
to
reinforce
what
he
said
the
even
though
the
subject
matter
is
similar
the
procedural
structure
of
the
of
this
other
newly
formed
committee.
The
climate
action
working
group
is
a
that's
a
that's
a
working
group
of
council,
so
it
actually
doesn't.
It
won't
come
to
this
committee
I,
don't
think
and
it
won't
interact
with
Keefe,
except
in
the
in
the
in
the
form
of
that
one
member
from
Keefe
that
is
invited
to
sit
on
that
committee.
G
A
F
Actually,
it
was
at
the
genesis
of
the
climate
change
working
group
which
actually
came
through
during
this
strategic
planning
process.
When
we
had
a
lot
of
people
in
the
public
saying
what
are
you
doing
with
the
community?
What
are
you
doing
now
and-
and
it
was
a
really
response
to
that
it-
we
certainly
always
recognized
how
all
the
work
that
Keefe
is
doing
as
well
as
sustainable
Kingston,
and
it
was
just
you
know.
Climate
change
needs
a
lot
of
different
strategies.
F
A
A
Just
to
repeat
that
this
report
is
an
annual
report
and
of
what
Keef
is
doing
and
we
will
get
another
one
in
for
2019
and
the
it
it
won't
be
related
to
the
work
in
any
other
group,
including
that
one
sort
of
self-evident
anyway,
that's
we're
still
on
the
the
report
card,
so
comments
on
what's
in
the
report,
are
in
order.
Mister
California,
yes,.
D
Anders
report
card
there
was
a
recognition
that
there
there
should
be
a
connection
between
the
working
group
and
Keith,
so
Keith
was
invited
to
appoint
a
member
and
Keith
will
be
meeting
I
believe
it's
next
week
or
the
following
week
in
order
to
with
a
single
item
agenda,
to
appoint
somebody
to
that
working
group,
which
is
great
the
terms
of
reference
just
in
part
to
answer
the
question.
The
terms
of
reference
for
Keith.
D
First
of
all,
Keef
is
a
standing
committee
of
counts
of
counsel.
That
reports
through
EIT,
P
and
I
know
that
the
primary
focus
of
the
working
group
is
the
IC
I
sector
Keith
under
its
terms
of
reference,
can
take
a
much
broader
look
at
it.
So
next
year's
report
current
will
include
that
work
that
Keith
does
as
well
as
its
involvement
with
the
with
the
working
group,
which
is
slated
to
be
completed
by
October
31st.
So.
A
D
A
Allowed
a
little
bit
latitude,
but
that's
it's
it's
important
that
this
committee
understands
how
the
new
working
group
fits
in
with
what
he
does.
So
that's
why
these
comments
are
in
order,
but
really
in
the
future.
I
would
discourage
discussion
about
the
other
working
group
at
this
committee
because
it
doesn't
report
to
this
committee.
It
reports
to
Council.
So
that's
where
we
just
discuss
its
report.
It's.
A
That's
the
major
difference
between
the
two
groups
is
the
reporting
structure.
So,
as
long
as
we
are
care,
we're
all
counselors
we're
clear
that
those
two
different
animals
there
and
ask
Alfred
already
said
having
lots
of
different
approaches
on
like
climate
is
not
going
to
be
hurtful.
So
we
need
this
moved
and
seconded
so
that
we
can
actually
debate
it
and
make
comments
so
moved
by
Councillor
Doherty,
say
maybe
that
cancer
Holland
so
I'll
read
the
recommendation.
A
It's
pretty
it's
pretty
logical
that
the
EIT
P
committee
recommend
to
council
that
the
2018
Keef
report
card
be
approved
as
a
summary
of
the
work
accomplished
by
Keef.
So
before
we
go
into
debate
that
second
clause,
you
know
from
a
procedural
standpoint,
debate
on
whether
or
not
you're
in
favor
of
the
report
card
being
in
the
summary
of
the
work.
It's
the
kind
of
thing
we're
supposed
to
be
discussing.
So
if
there's
errors
or
omissions,
if
there's
problems
in
interpretation
of
what's
in
the
report,
you
know
maybe
for
clarity
for
the
members
of
public.
A
If
we
wanted
to
change
some
wording
for
clarity,
that
kind
of
thing,
but
that's
about
it,
there's
not
really
much
else,
that's
in
order,
so
with
that
said,
does
anyone
wish
to
come
in
and
mr.
McCauley
this?
This
will
be
an
annual
report
at
this
time
like
more
or
less,
or
will
it
be
at
a
different
time?
Next,
up
there.
A
Approximate
so
at
the
end
of
q2,
like
would
like
we
are
right
now:
yes,
okay,
great
excellent.
So
if,
if
passed,
this
will
become
an
annual
thing
and-
and
this
is
the
first
version
of
it
so
I
guess
I'll
call
the
question
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that
carries
so
there's
nothing
under
8
or
9.
On
other
business.
We
added
an
item
for
councillor.
Neill
spoke
to
adding.
It
was.
H
D
Untie
me
I
promise
three
minutes
or
less
three
or
four
years
ago,
when
the
Official
Plan,
the
opie,
was
in
draft
form,
Greg
Newman
very
generously
agreed
to
meet
with
Roger
Healey
and
myself.
So
we
could
look
through
the
Official
Plan
and
targets
some
environmental
issues
that
we
might
want
to
address
and
thanks
to
that
good
work,
a
great
Newman
included
within
the
O
P,
several
really
good
recommendations.
D
D
Unfortunately,
they
all
came
in
the
form
of
recommendations
and
people
who
are
on
planning
will
recognize
that
those
recommendations
seldom
if
ever
get
acted
upon.
So
there
has
been
legislation
and,
and
other
communities
have
taken
some
of
those
you
should
dues
and
made
them
into
you
shall
do
and
in
talking
with
Greg
Newman
before,
unfortunately,
we
lost
him
he
he
said
he
would
be
quite
willing
to
sit
down
again
with
us
and
and
review
some
of
those
things
and
I
have
shared
it
with
with
our
Director
of
Planning
as
well.
That
idea.
D
So
now
we
don't
have
to
do
it
in
a
formal
way.
We
can
do
it
as
we
did
before
and
just
Roger.
If
he's
willing
to
do
it
again
and
I
can
do
it
and
anybody
else
that
wishes
to
to
just
take
two
or
three
meetings
sit
down.
Look
at
the
opie
as
it
affects
the
environmental
issues
and
look
to
how
we
can
beef
it
up.
So
so
that
is
just
by
way
of
information.
D
I
would
hope
that
report
with
the
recommendation
could
come
back
for
our
August
sixth
meeting
and
if
that
needs
to
be
in
the
form
of
a
motion
to
carry
on
to
Council
I'm,
quite
happy
to
do
that.
If
staff
are
willing
to
say
we
can
make
it.
So
that's
okay
too
so
and
that
primarily
be
planning
staff
I,
don't
think
I'm,
putting
anything
more
on
your
on
your
desk.
A
Those
from
my
listening
to
that
sound
so
Ken
like
a
notice,
a
motion
of
what
we're
getting
a
honor
next
one
of
the
items
on
there
next
at
our
next
meeting.
That
we
already
know
is
in
the
works
and
that's
the
item
of
other
business.
So
now
we
just
have
our
next
meeting,
which
is
August
6th,
so
it's
in
the
middle
of
summer
so
make
sure
you
put
it
on
your
calendars.
A
We
did
great
with
full
attendance
tonight
when
all
this
lovely
weather,
that's
coming
our
way,
I
think
by
then
maybe
the
Lawrence
will
have
gone
down
more
towards
a
normal
level,
hopefully
so
that
we're
not
talking
about
flooding
but
anyway,
I
need
a
motion
to
adjourn
council,
Roseanna,
counselor,
oyster
Hoff,
all
those
in
favor
you
guys
in
favor
in
German,
yeah,
okay,
that
passes.
Thank
you
very
much.