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Equity, Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Committee meeting from December 12, 2022. For full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3BwpxJU
A
B
So
next
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
I
believe
so.
Does
everyone
kind
of
agree
to
the
agenda?
Can
I
get
a
mover,
counselor
toso
and
a
seconder.
B
A
Through
you
chair,
we
don't
have
any
delegations
today
and
we
don't
have
any
briefings,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
right
into
business.
Okay,.
B
Wonderful,
so
we're
gonna
go
to
the
first
business
item,
which
is
the
city
of
Kingston
specific
recommendations
based
on
the
National
Council
of
Canadian
Muslims
recommendations.
C
Hello
and
good
afternoon,
through
you
chair
good
afternoon,
everyone
so
on
February,
1st
2022,
the
city
council
passed
a
motion
directing
this
committee:
the
equity
diversity
and
inclusion
advisory
committee
to
review
the
National
Council;
okay,
the
Muslim,
so
policy
recommendation
on
islamophobia
and
provides
city
of
Kingston
specific
recommendations
to
the
council
by
the
end
of
quarter
for
2022,
where
we
are
right
now,
based
on
the
nccm
recommendation.
C
So
for
specifically
for
municipal
government,
they
were
few
recommendations
that
we
did
some
research
on
and
worked
on
a
feasibility
and
see
how
that
would
fit
into
a
city
of
Kingston's
current
programming
and
future
plans.
So
so
we
are
recommending
the
following
recommendation:
recommendation
number
55,
which
is
on
passing
a
municipal
Street
harassment,
bylaws
that
are
proportional
and
constitutional.
C
Such
as
the
approach
now
being
adopted
in
Edmonton
after
an
nccm
initiator,
bylaws
should
also
address
clearly
hateful
verbal
assaults
and
give
authorities
the
ability
to
ticket
and
find
when
necessary.
C
Luckily,
we,
our
legal
department,
was
already
working
on
a
public
nuisance
bylaw
which
I
will
share
shortly,
which
align
very
much
with
the
recommendation
number
55
of
nccm
and
then
the
the
next
recommendation,
which
was
recommendation.
C
Number
57,
which
was
mayor's,
should
build
NDC
islamophobia
advisory,
Council
in
circles,
while
ensuring
there's
appropriate
representation
of
diverse
local
Muslim
communities,
which
is
again
connecting
with
an
ongoing
initiative
that
EDI
office
has
been
working
with
clerk
office
on
increasing
representation
on
the
committee's
and
Boards,
with
the
help
of
nomination
committee,
which
I
will
be
speaking
shortly
about
and
then
a
recommendation
number
59
invest
in
celebrating
the
history
of
local
Canadian,
Muslims
and
initiatives
through
a
concrete
program
that
bring
these
figures
and
names
to
the
Forefront
of
local
level.
Recognition.
C
Municipalities
should
fund
events
in
spaces
where
there
are
accomplishments
are
celebrated
in
a
way
that
clearly
shows
that
the
Muslims
have
made
real
contribution
to
Canadian
society
and
are
far
from
violin
caricatures.
That
constantly
make
the
new
use.
C
This
is
something
that
we
worked
with
our
heritage
services
and
came
up
with
the
some
suggestions
so
and
then
the
last
recommendation
that
we
are
suggesting
right
now
is
the
recommendation
number
61,
which
is
developed
models
for
training
young
Muslim
leaders
for
the
future,
such
as
youth
fellowship
program
in
Toronto,
I'm
gonna,
speak
first
on
public
nuisance
by
law.
C
So,
as
I
said
that
the
the
National
Council
of
Kenyan
Muslims,
recommendation
from
the
national
Summit
on
islamophobia
actually
included
a
recommendation
to
pass
Street
harassment
by
law
with
ticketing
Authority
as
such,
on
June
29,
2022
Council
directed
City
staff
to
prepare
a
public
nuisance
by
law
for
council's
consideration.
C
So
this
bylaw
provides
enforcement
agencies
with
an
effective
tool
to
mitigate
nuisance,
behavior
that
interfere
with
with
other
person's
use
and
enjoyment
on
public
spaces
generally
public
nuisance
bylaw
prohibits
or
regulates
undesirable
Behavior
like
defacing
or
vandalizing
property,
discharging
dust
or
smoke
into
the
natural
environment,
feeding
of
Wildlife
and
screaming
shouting
or
using
abusive,
threatening
or
harassing
language
that
interferes
with
a
reasonable
enjoyment
of
of
an
individual
or
a
group
of
people
in
a
public
space.
C
A
legal
service
staff
has
have
advised
that
that
nccm
recommendations
related
to
a
street
harassment
bylaw
would
fall
under
this
proposed
public
nuisance
bylaw,
which,
which
Pro,
which
would
prohibit
any
use
of
abusive
or
harassing
language
that
interferes
with
individual,
reasonable
enjoyment
of
a
public
space
which
is
which
includes
but
not
limited
to
islamophobic
NT,
Semitic,
racist,
sexist
homophobic
and
transphobic
language.
C
If
the
public
nuisance
bylaw
is
enacted
by
Council,
local
enforcement
agencies
would
have
the
ability
to
issue
part
one
provincial
offense
notices,
which
is
also
called
tickets
to
the
individuals
who
violate
the
bylaws
and
legal
service
staff,
are
currently
undertaking
consultation
with
the
public,
Kingston,
Police
and
other
municipalities.
C
With
respect
to
this
proposed
public
nuisance
by
law
and
will
report
back
to
the
council
in
2023,
so
this
is
something
that
is
already
in
motion
the
the
next
section
of
the
the
recommendation,
which
is
the
anti-islamophobia
advisory
councils
and
increase
the
representation
recommendation
number
57.
So
we
already
have
a
plan
in
place
for
diverse
voices
for
city
of
Kingston,
advisee
committees,
boards
and
commission,
as
part
of
the
recruitment
for
public
members,
appointments
to
both
internal
city
of
Kingston
and
external
agencies,
committees,
boards
and
commission.
C
The
the
clerks
Department
staff
have
reached
out
directly
to
community
organization
neighborhoods
and
Association,
and
Indigenous
groups,
specifically
representing
a
broad
spectrum
of
Kingston
residents,
included
in
these
email
communication
and
information.
It's
regarding
the
committee's
board
and
commission
to
which
applications
were
sought
and
details
of
when
and
how
to
apply.
Not
only
that,
but
also
from
EDI
office.
C
We
specifically
reach
out
to
Community
Partners
and
organizations
and
Community
leaders
and
Community
activist,
and
offered
them
if
there
is
a
need
for
any
assistance
from
our
side,
how
we
can
bridge
the
gap
of
them
applying
for
any
of
these
communities,
boards
and
commissions.
C
And
now,
let's
move
to
the
celebrating
the
history
of
local
Canadian
Muslim,
which
is
kingstonian
Muslims.
The
Heritage
Services
has
agreed
to
work
with
Community
Partners
to
reach
and
develop
content
for
a
standalone
Niche
case
exhibit
in
the
city
hall
that
focuses
on
community
identified
aspects
of
history
of
Canadian
Muslims
in
the
Kingston
area.
Research
and
design
will
occur
in
2023
for
installation
in
2024.
C
The
niche
cases
at
City
Hall
are
actually
temporary
installation
use
usually
remaining
on
view
for
one
to
two
years,
with
a
focus
on
expanding
the
history
and
stories
that
are
shared
as
part
of
interpretation
and
program
of
Kingston
City
Hall
as
a
center
of
community
government
and
as
National
Historic
side,
Heritage
Services
planning
for
future
large-scale
exhibition
and
educational
program
will
also
continue
to
emphasize
cultural
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
including
opportunity
that
could
highlight
the
history
and
contribution
of
the
Canadian
Muslims.
In
connection
to
this
recommendation.
C
We
are
also
highlighting
the
Islamic
heritage
month
every
year
in
October,
Islamic
heritage
month
is
recognized
in
Canada,
and
this
is
the
time
to
reflect
and
learn
together
about
Islamic
Excellence,
Muslim
excellence
in
Canadian
context
and
the
rich
long-standing
contribution
of
Canadian
Muslim
people
that
they
have
made
in
a
literature,
Math
Science
in
history
not
locally
just
but
also
globally.
C
The
city
of
Kingston
will
recognize
the
month
of
October
Islamic
Heritage
Month
by
Illuminating,
the
city
hall
and
Springer
Market
Square
in
green
color,
and
sharing
educational
information
for
its
staff
via
internal
email.
We
actually
did
that
last
year
or
this
year
or
2022,
and
we
can
we
intend
to
continue
doing
that
with
the
help
of
our
Communications
team
as
well
as
facilities.
C
The
last
section
that
I
want
to
highlight
is
about
the
developing
of
the
model
for
training
young
Muslim
leaders
for
the
future,
like
the
youth
fellowship
program
in
Toronto,
so
the
the
these
established.
This
actual
youth
fellowship
program
was
established
by
the
city
of
Toronto.
C
It's
a
non-partisan
program
which
provides
politically
motivated
students
the
opportunity
to
complete
the
academic
studies
with
hands-on
experience,
working
with
an
elected
government
representative,
also
placing
staff
with
deep
roots
in
Toronto's,
Muslim
and
black
communities
in
decision
making
spaces
that
helps
them
understand
the
the
actual
needs
and
also
ensure
that
the
substance
shape
and
details
of
what
Toronto's
government
decides
better
reflects
community
experiences.
So
we
will
be
working
on
a
feasibility
to
replicate
this
model
for
city
of
Kingston
and
how
we
intend
to
do.
C
It
is
not
just
targeting
the
the
black
and
Muslim
youth,
but
we
will
also.
We
also
intend
to
create
a
sub
intersectional
approaches
to
encourage
other
systemically
excluded
Community
groups
to
be
able
to
be
part
of
Youth
fellowship
program.
C
So
at
this
point
the
staff
is
recommending
the
committee
to
that
that
day
recommend
a
tooth
Council
that
Council
encouraged
the
city
clerk
to
continue
with
its
effort
to
attract
diverse
voices
from
the
city
of
Kingston
advisory
committee
boards
and
Commission
in
response
to
recommendation
number
57,
which
is
build.
Anti-Islamophobia
mail,
advisory,
Council
circles
and
councils
of
the
National
Council
located
in
the
Muslim
policy
recommendation.
C
Museum
exhibition
and
programming
plans
in
response
to
the
recommendation,
number
59
celebrating
the
history
of
Canadian
Muslims
of
National
Council
of
Canadian
Muslim
policy
recommendation
on
islamophobia
that
Council
recognized
October
as
Islamic
Heritage
Month,
going
forward
and
direct
the
equity
diversity
and
inclusion
office
to
coordinate
with
communication
and
customer
services.
Customer
experience,
my
apologies
and
special
events
to
recognize
programming
and
communication.
C
Accordingly,
in
response
to
recommendation
number
59
celebrating
the
history
of
Canadian
Muslims
of
the
National
Council
of
Canadian
Muslim
policy
recommendation
on
islamophobia
that
Council
directs
the
equity,
diversity
and
inclusion
office
to
conduct
a
research
in
order
to
establish
a
youth
fellowship
program
in
the
response
to
recommendation
number
61
increase
opportunities
for
young
Canadian
Muslims
in
City
decision
making
of
the
National
Council
of
killing
the
Muslim
policy
recommendation
on
islamophobia
with
this
I'm
here.
To
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
River.
B
Yeah,
so
now
is
kind
of
the
time
where,
if
anyone
has
any
comments
or
questions
they
can
be
directed
to
Muhammad
or
to
myself.
B
I
have
one
that
I
kind
of
want
to
vote
myself
to
do
so.
I
I,
really
love
the
idea
of
the
bylaw
I
think
it's
really
important
that
that
is
there
and
that
it
actually
is
targeted
towards
islamophobia,
because
we've
had
instances
of
that
and
it
really
needs
to
be
targeted.
So
we
don't
have
that
in
Kingston.
B
My
question
is:
would
there
be
capacity
or
what
are
Muhammad's
thoughts
on?
Because
my
concern
is
that
we
have
a
bylaw
and
we
have
a
fine,
but
we
don't
really
have
anywhere
to
go
past
that
do
we
have
any
sort
of
Education
or
any
sort
of
model
to
kind
of
encourage
anti-racism
or
perspectives.
I
I,
don't
know
how
that
would
go,
but
I
just
want
to
see
it
where
it's
not
just
that
we're
slapping
fines
on
people,
but
that
we're
actually
giving
the
opportunity
opportunity
to
learn
and
become
more
respectful.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question
chair,
Hill
What
I
can't
share,
definitely
that
we
are
working
with
different
Community
Partners
to
create
a
more
holistic
program
that
is
not
just
focus
on
islamophobia,
but
also
focused
on
different
other
kinds
of
discrimination,
and
once
this
bylaw
is
finalized,
the
intention
is
that
it's
not
just
going
to
be
a
bylaw
that
is
just
put
out
there,
but
there
will
be
some
opportunities
for
educating
and
training
people
and
masses,
and
also
it
may
connect
very
well
with
the
the
anti-racism
working
group,
which
is
a
community-led
working
group
that
is
in
place
with
support
of
city
council.
C
So
there
is
an
opportunity
there
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
B
Okay,
where
were
we
I'm
gonna,
give
the
opportunity
to
counselor
kosa
to
speak?
Thank.
E
You-
and
this
is
my
first
meeting
and
I'm
I'm
delighted
to
be
a
member
of
this
committee,
so
I
would
be
as
a
counselor
be
absolutely
happy
to
endorse
all
these
and
vote
for
all
these
emotions
through
your
chair,
I
have
a
question
for
Muhammad.
What
is
I
I
agree
that
I
think
a
bylaw
for
finding
people
for
race,
for
racist
and
bigoted
speech
is,
of
course,
I
think
entirely
appropriate
and
any
educational
program
would
be
there.
E
My
question
is:
what
is
the
currently
existing
legal
framework
for
police
or
for
other
services
to
be
intervened
because
of
bylaw
implying
their
one
part?
But
what
is
the
other
legal
framework
within
which
by
law
and
police
officers
would
be
working
with
them
because
I'm
not.
A
C
So
I
I
can
safely
say
that
that
there
is
not
a
lot
for
Us
in
under
the
municipal
jurisdiction
to
Implement
anything
or
impose
any
kind
of
situation
like
ticketing
or
offense
reporting,
unless
it's
an
actual
threat.
C
So,
however,
like
once,
we
will
be
bringing
the
detailed
framework
under
the
public
nuisance
bylaw
we
we
would
be
able
to
speak
more
broadly
about
it
and
the
reason
why
this
new
bylaw
is
being
constructed
and
like
the
consultation
work
is
being
done
through
legal
service
is
because
there
was
no
framework
that
allows
a
municipal
governments
to
impose
any
kind
of
control
on
any
situation
like
that,
and
definitely
it's
not
just
limited
to
islamophobic
incidents.
C
But
we
have
seen
a
rise
in
anti-Semitic
sentiments
and
and
racist
sentiments
publicly
lately
in
city
of
Kingston,
and
not
to
Discount
the
homophobic
and
transphobic
comments,
which
is
also
an
ongoing
problem.
So
the
idea
is
that
this
bylaw
will
help
us
at
least
create
a
dent
in
that
systemic
approach
of
people,
questioning
or
or
attacking
the
the
excluded
community
members
verbally.
E
Thank
you
and
three
through
your
chair,
so
I
I.
This
would
go
on
top
of
any
other
legal
ramifications.
There
would
be
for
these
kinds
of
of
hate
crimes
for
lack
of
very
term
or
these
kinds
of
things.
So
please,
presumably,
please
send
bylaw
would
lay
charges
on
top
of
inclines.
On
top
of
what
other
illegal
problems,
there
would
be
correct,
so
I'm
understanding.
C
I
am
not
able
to
speak
to
that
at
this
point,
so
I,
like
like
I,
said
we
have
to
wait
for
the
detail
report
on
like
whether
it's
going
to
be
Peril
to
current
provincial
or
federal
legislations,
or
is
it
going
to
be
on
top
of
it
or
is
it
completely
separate?
This
is
all
currently
being
studied
and
in
process
of
making
so
like
not
gonna,
jump
the
gun
right
now
and
promise
something
which
is
not
going
to
happen.
So
thank.
F
Thank
you
and
through
you
chair,
a
quick
question.
I
had
Muhammad
was
in
terms
of
youths
from
different
backgrounds
and
the
integration
with
the
with
the
Muslim
youth.
Is
there
going
to
be
separate
programming,
or
are
we
going
to
have
something
so
that
there
is
yeah?
There
is
there's
integration
and
the
a
safe
space
for
all
of
them
to
be
able
to
share
what
what
their
experiences
are?.
C
Thank
you
chair
through
you,
Sunita,
it's
it's
a
really
good
question.
I,
really
appreciate
that
the
intention
for
the
this
program
would
specifically
be
to
work
with
elected
representative,
which
in
this
case,
would
be
Council
and
mayor
and
creating
this
in
mentorship
and
fellowship
program
with
systemically
excluded
groups.
C
So
what
we
will
be
working
on
is
creating
a
model
where
different
intersection
of
the
community
groups
can
sign
up
for
a
certain
period
of
time
to
work
as
a
youth
fellowship
with
counselors
who
are
going
to
volunteer.
So
as
it's
done
in
Toronto,
it's
like
it's
not
mandatory
for
the
every
counselor,
but
this
offer
is
placed
to
all
of
the
counselors
on
a
different
term
basis
as
far
as
I
I.
C
So
far
that
I've
done
research
on
is
there
are
one
two
and
three
years
terms
or
for
counselors
to
to
volunteer
for
and
in
in
that
there
are
different
kind
of
programs.
However,
how
Toronto
has
done
because
of
the
larger
systemically
excluded
population
there?
C
They
have
specific
program
for
black
youth,
Filipino,
youth,
Tamil,
Youth
and
Muslim,
Youth
and
other
intersections,
but
for
Kingston
we
are
trying
to
develop
a
program
that
is
going
to
Target
all
intersections
of
Youth
under
one
umbrella,
mainly
because
we
have
a
small
number
of
council
members
who,
like,
even
if
all
of
them
agree
to
volunteer
to
to
Mentor.
We
will
only
be
able
to
place
a
certain
number
of
Youth
at
once
at
a
time,
and
we
also
don't
want
to
overburden
the
council
with
that.
C
But
then
also
we
want
to
create
a
space
where
different
intersection
of
Youth
are
also
integrating
together.
C
The
more
how
the
model
will
look
like
is
something
that
is
going
to
be
once
the
motion
is
approved
through
Council,
then
we
will
be
working
on,
and
at
this
point
we
are
just
asking
the
EDI
committee
to
make
this
recommendation
to
city
council
to
have
a
study
done.
A
research
done
on
how
this
youth
fellowship
program
will
look
like
for
city
of
Kingston.
B
Yeah
now
I
do
see
house
hand,
but
I
did
see
counselor
Stephen's
hand
up
first,
so
give
you
the
chance
to
speak.
G
So
my
last
name
is
pronounced
Stephen.
Just
since
we
are
Equity.
G
Correcting
respectfully
so
I
have
a
question
about
one
of
the
the
parts
of
the
motion
where
it
was
suggesting
that
the
city
clerk
continue
seeking
diversity
for
advisory
committees,
boards,
Etc,
so
sort
of
a
two-parter.
So
first
part
of
the
question
I'm
wondering
how
has
that
been
going?
So
if
we're
reaching
out
to
different
communities
and
I
I,
understand
we're
talking
about
Muslim
communities
specifically
here,
but
I
think
it's
not
too
far
of
a
stretch
to
sort
of
Wonder
bigger
picture.
G
How
has
that
recruitment
been
going?
Do
we
have
any
information
on
who
has
actually
applied
for
these
committees,
and
is
that
something
that
we
can
find
out?
If
we
don't
know
yet,
that's
the
first
question.
I'll
ask
the
second
one
after
that.
Thank
you.
C
E
Are
you
sure
thank
you
chair
for
you?
Are
you
sure
Mohammed?
If
you
want
to
go
first,
I'd,
be
happy
to
get
your
oversight
because
I
was
a
participant
in
that
process,
but
perhaps
as
a
now,
it's
a
third
party
you'd
have
a
better
insight
into
that
and
then
I
can
comment
after
so
I.
Please
go
first
and
apologies
to
hell,
but
I
think
this
is
important.
C
C
This
is
the
first
time
the
the
city
of
Kingston
actually
went
into
that
direction
and
also
another
specific
initiative
that
I
want
to
highlight
is
the
housing
and
homelessness
advisory
committee,
where
we
worked
very
closely
with
the
aedi
community
and
also
housing
and
homelessness
advisory
committee,
to
propose
a
recommendation
for
the
honorarium
for
members
so
that
we
can
have
more
Equitable
voices
represented
on
the
advisory
committee.
C
So
the
idea
is
that
we
will
be
studying
the
outcomes
at
the
end
of
2023
and-
and
we
also
have
the
vision
that,
hopefully,
we
will
be
able
to
implement
the
learnings
from
that
to
all
committees
and
Boards
in
future,
mainly
because,
if
the,
if
the
volunteering
is
expected
from
all
community
members,
specifically
individuals
who
may
not
have
a
the
privilege
of
volunteering
their
time
because
they're
working
two
and
three
jobs
to
make
their
ends
meet
by
not
offering
any
kind
of
support
or
any
other
radium,
we
are
actually
deliberately
excluding
their
voices
from
these
advisory
committees
and
Boards.
C
While
it's
really
important
to
have
these
voices
represented
because,
like
how
can
we
bring
change
if
we
are
not
hearing
from
the
people
who
are
experiencing
those
challenges?
You
know
like
not
discounting
at
all
these
amazing
volunteers,
all
across
the
board
who
have
been
volunteering
and
like
this
community
itself.
All
the
members
of
public
are
volunteer
members,
but
definitely
you
know,
like
we
all
agreed
as
the
EDI
advisory
community,
that
there
is
a
need
to
create
more
space.
For
that
and
the
second
part
of
the
the
question.
C
Second
part
of
my
answer
to
counselor
Stevens
question
is:
we
did
reach
out
to
different
Community
groups,
specifically
while
a
clerk
office
drafted
different
type
of
communications
for
different
Community
groups,
and
we
collaborated
with
different
departments
to
shortlist,
different
Community
organizations
specifically
to
reach
out
to
them,
and
then
EDI
office
also
send
individual
emails
requesting
support
from
several
indigenous
leaders,
several
cultural
organizations
and
also
different
other
organizations
that
work
with
marginalized
Community
groups.
C
Not
only
that,
but
we
also
reached
out
to
several
Community
leaders
and
activists
all
across
the
board
asking
them
to
promote
it,
because
we
did
not
want
to
make
an
assumption
that,
just
because
it's
on
City
website
or
city
is
a
social
media
and
other
mass
media
options.
C
It's
going
to
reach
to
everyone.
However,
there
is
an
opportunity
here
and
I:
let
counselor
to
speak
to
it
even
further
that
we
have
learned
certain
things
that
may
impact
the
way
we
will
do
it
in
future.
So,
having
said
that,
I
feel
that
this
has
been
the
little
bit
better
in
terms
of
inclusiveness
in
in
recruitment,
but
definitely
miles
to
go
before.
We
can
say
that
we
have
reached
our
goal
of
creating
more
inclusive
advisory
committees,
so
yeah,
that's
all.
Thank
you.
G
From
what
Muhammad
said,
and
what
you're
about
to
speak
to
of
those
who
can
were
identified
as
diversity
seeking
applicants,
I'm
wondering
how
many
I
don't
know
if
we
know
that
yet,
but
that's
part
of
it,
but
I'm
also
wondering
how
many
were
actually
selected
for
committees
or
boards
or
or
such
thanks
go
ahead.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
through
you
and
I
address
some
what
Muhammad
said
and
what
counselor
Stephen
is
asking
I
assume
that
this
is
going
to
come
up
at
Council
as
well.
I
was
vice
chair
of
that
committee
and
the
challenge
that
we
had
as
a
committee
was
on
self-disclosure
of
being
from
an
an
equity
or
diverse
community.
So
when
there
was
disclosure
of
that,
we
absolutely
took
that
into
a
major
consideration
when
we
made
committees
as
well
as
skill
sets
and
all
the
other
factors
that
we
would
look
at.
E
So
if
someone
identified
as
being
from
a
traditional,
diverse
Community,
so
we
looked
at
gender,
we
looked
at
race,
ethnic
Origins,
religion,
all
the
other
factors
there.
The
problem
in
the
real
challenge
the
committee
had
and
I
I'll
have
a
series
of
recommendations
along
with
counselor
Hassan
and
hope
we're
working
with
Muhammad's
office
on
how
to
improve
the
process.
Is
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
self-disclosure
on
the
committee,
so
we
had
very
limited
lenses
within
which
to
view
diversity
oftentimes.
E
It
was
just
people
that
used
their
honorific
of
Ms
or
Mr.
That's
a
narrow
lens
within
which
to
view
diversity,
I'm
of
the
opinion
that
if
we
want
to
have
Community
Voices
they
it
doesn't
just
need
to
be
gender
diversity,
albeit
we
need
that,
but
we
also
need
to
have
diversity
on
a
wide
spectrum
of
ways
of
looking
at
identity.
E
We,
the
committee,
didn't
have
a
lot
of
that
information.
So
when
we
made
our
decisions,
we
made
it
on
the
self-disclosure
of
individuals
when
they
talked
about
who
they
were.
E
There's
also
a
lens
I'd
like
to
sort
of
recognize
that
we
are
a
body
of
government
and
historically,
governments
have
not
been
the
friendliest
to
people
who
have
been
historically
diverse.
So
how
do
we
encourage
people?
And
we
want
those
voices
we
want
to
amplify
those
voices.
So
this
is
a
challenge
also
I'm
going
to
ask
Council
and
my
other
fellow
counselors
and
our
Equity
offices.
How
do
we
encourage
people
to
self-disclose
if
they're
from
a
community?
E
That
is
not
that
comes
that
we
want
to
hear
more
out
of
to
a
level
of
government
which
historically
I
don't
blame
them
for
not
trusting
us
generally.
If
they
do
experience
oppression,
it's
not
just
from
a
broader
capitalist
system,
it's
also
from
our
political
system,
and
we
are
the
face
of
that
political
system.
So
it
lends
itself
to
some
challenges.
So
how
did
the
Committees
look
in
aggregate?
They
look
very
diverse
on
the
lens
of
which
we
could
evaluate
diversity
that
we
knew
about
committee
by
committee.
E
We
there's
a
lot
of
things.
We
don't
know
like
we
don't
know
the
diversity
of
you
know
the
planning
committee.
We
don't
know
the
diversity
of
some
of
the
Committees,
because
we
were
going
in
with
very
limited
information
of
the
amount
of
diversity
within
that
that
committee,
so
I
would
say
we
did
our
due
diligence.
The
six
of
us.
We
read
through
2000
pages
of
applications,
which
is
as
fun
as
it
sounds,
but
we
only
could
know
what
we
were
disclosed
and
that
was
a
limitation
of
the
process.
E
Now
I
really
want
to
make
the
process
better
for
the
next
time
we
have
a
nominations,
meeting
going
forward
and
making
sure
that
our
committees
are
reflect
the
diversity
of
our
community
and,
in
fact,
I
think
even
Amplified.
The
diversity
of
our
community,
but
councilor
Stephen
it
was
it
was
it
perfect,
we
didn't
have
perfect
information.
Was
it
did
we
do
our
due
diligence,
I
I
think
we
as
counselors
thought
we
did
and
I
think
Muhammad
was
quite
satisfied
with
that
and
we
had
those
conversations
during
that
meeting
too.
E
We
really
we
spent
about
20
minutes
of
that
meeting.
Just
saying,
are
these
committees
diverse
enough?
Did
we
take
a
look
at
these
lenses?
It
was
something
that
really
that
await
on
me
afterwards
and
I
had
a
follow-up
meeting
with
counselor
Hassan
about
it
and
I'm
going
to
meet
with
Muhammad
later
on
in
the
month,
because
I
I'm
not
fully
I
I'm
satisfied.
We
did
a
good
good
job,
I'm,
not
satisfied.
We
did
the
best
job.
We
could
to
answer
that
question.
G
Yes,
please
sorry,
just
briefly
so
I
think
to
keep
this
conversation
on
track
with
what
we're
supposed
to
be
talking
about,
I,
think
taking
into
consideration
what
Muhammad
has
said,
what
councilor
toza
has
said
and
the
the
issues
with
the
sorry
it's
called
the
nominations
committee
doing
the
best
they
can
but
being
very
limited.
G
I
think
that
for
future
discussion,
maybe
there's
something
here
that
we
need
to
explore
and
dig
a
little
deeper
into,
because
the
the
motion
to
continue
that
the
city
clerk
continue
seeking
diversity
is
great,
but
if
that's
as
far
as
we
get
that's
not
enough
so
I
just
like
to
put
that
out
there
for
future
discussion.
Thank
you.
B
So
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
comment
on
what
councilor
toso
had
said.
First
off,
although
the
process
wasn't
there,
I
do
really
appreciate,
and
I
was
listening
into
that
meeting
about
how
you
were
like
raising
your
voice
to
like
make
diversity
known
in
a
lot
of
these
committees,
and
it
was
something
that
I
really
really
appreciated
and
sorry,
two
seconds
lost
my
train
of
thought.
Also.
B
One
of
the
things
I
was
actually
thinking
even
before
this,
when
we,
when
I
was
going
through
the
application
process
on
the
website
was
that
there
really
aren't
any
like
demographic
collection
and
with
that
data,
as
long
as
we're
making
it
optional,
because
I
don't
want
people
to
be
forced
to
disclose
if
it's
Equitable
I
think
that
collecting
those
demographics
as
well
as
those
kind
of
three
questions,
might
be
really
important,
because
then
we're
actually
asking
it's
kind
of
like
an
interview
right
like
when
you're
in
an
interview,
you
can
see
the
face
of
the
person,
but
when
you're
just
answering
like
you're,
not
gonna,
necessarily
think
about
disclosing
something
like
that.
C
For
the
record,
we
had
the
link
to
voluntary
disclosure,
but
I
understand
that
it
was
really
hard
to
access
it
because
it
was
placed
at
the
left
side
of
the
webpage
of
application.
So
this
is
something
that
we
will
be
working
on
with
clerk
office
and
isnt
to
see
how
we
can
make
it
more
prominent
in
terms
of
applications,
but
we
did
have
the
opportunity
for
voluntary
disclosure
we.
C
We
have
also
started
implementing
the
voluntary
disclosure
process,
not
just
for
the
council's
appointed
advisory
committees
and
and
boards,
but
also
for
the
staff
that
are
being
hired.
So
there
is
an
opportunity
here
again
for
us
to
review
where
to
place
that
link
or
or
should
it
be
part
of
the
actual
application.
Like
I
said
there
are
a
number
of
learnings
that
we
have
shortlisted
that
we
will
be
discussing
once
we
will
go
into
the
discussion
of
how
the
process
went.
C
I
want
to
highlight
one
thing
that
this
is
the
first
time
after
that
recommendation
that
was
made
by
Clerk
Office
that
we
had
any
such
thing
done
with
any
of
the
nomination
committee
process.
C
So
like
it's
as
counselor
tutor
said
it's,
it
may
not
be
perfect,
but
it
is
the
first
step
in
the
right
direction
for
sure
and
we
will
be
sitting
together
and
reviewing
it
and
bringing
back
some
of
these
specific
recommendations
on
how
we
can
change
that
process
and
how
we
can
create
even
more
opportunities
for
Equity
seeking
groups
to
be
part
of
this
process.
Thank
you.
B
B
I
think
that
also
when
we're
collecting
more
specific
information,
because
I
found
in
the
process
that
I
almost
wanted
to
repeat
myself
through
those
three
boxes,
it
was
hard
to
kind
of
differentiate,
especially
someone
with
lived
experience
and
like
volunteerism,
where
do
I
put,
which
one
right
I
also
think
that
that
can
also
help
streamline
and
make
the
process
a
lot
easier
when
we're
actually
like
going
through
all
of
those
applications.
B
The
other
thing
just
goes
back
to
the
the
like
paying
people
with
lived
experience.
I
just
wanted
to
like
wholeheartedly
because,
like
I
was
shedding
a
tear,
while
you
were
talking
about
that
wholeheartedly,
support
that
and
just
like
celebrate
it,
because
it
is
so
important,
especially
myself.
B
Personally,
as
someone
who
works
primarily
as
a
lived
experience
consultant
and
that
is
often
sometimes
a
source
of
income
and
as
someone
who
is
disabled,
it
is
just
like
so
important
that
we're
paying
people
for
their
time,
especially
when
they're,
disclosing
or
they're
working
on
something
that
involves
that
kind
of
sensitivity.
C
Know
like
you,
you
asked
Anita
to
go
next,
but
I
just
want
to
add
one
thing
very
important
that
if
anyone
who
deserves
to
be
thanked
for
this
initiative,
the
first
is
this
group,
this
advisory
committee.
The
recommendation
came
through
this
advisory
committee
with
help
of
a
delegation
that
came
from
a
group
of
undergrad
students
from
Queen's
University
so
like
these
are.
C
There
are
two
first
initial
groups
that
we
should
be
thanking,
so
the
these
two
students
from
Queen's
universities,
undergrad
program
and
this
EDI
committee,
that
made
this
recommendation
to
city
council
and,
of
course,
then
the
the
housing
and
homelessness
advisory
committee
who
endorsed
the
recommendation
of
EDI
Community,
and
then
definitely
the
city
council,
who
agreed
to
it
by
all
mean
that
it
was
a
collective
effort
of
so
many
like-minded
individuals
and
I
still
remember
the
moment
of
vulnerability.
C
That
was
shared
in
this
committee.
That
was
really
really
eye-opening
for
most
of
my
us
and
we
were
able
to
take
it
back
on
so
many
different
levels
and
discuss
how
important
it
is
to
have
deliberate
and
careful
effort
to
bring
diverse
voices
to
the
table.
Because
that's
when
we
get
this
kind
of
insight,
So
yeah,
thank
you
for
all
the
amazing
work
you
all
have
been
doing
and
making
sure
that
we
stay
in
line
and
follow
the
guidance
of
this
committee.
B
E
I,
thank
you
you're
here
through
you
and
I
apologize
to
sunina,
and
how?
Because
you
know
you
guys
can
win
but
I
even
said
at
one
point
during
the
deliberations
that
we
needed
to
involve
the
committee
more
on
on
reviewing
this
process
and
finding
more
recommendations,
because
there
was
so
much
I
learned
going
through
this.
The
first
time
that
I
think
a
lens
of
equity
diversity.
Inclusion
could
have
aided
so
much
in
selecting
the.
B
That
is
great
attitude
now
I'm
gonna
move
to
Sunita,
because
I
believe
that
they
have
a
response
and
then
how
I
am
so
sorry,
your
question
is
burning.
We
will
get
to
you.
F
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
chair
first
of
all,
I
just
wanted
to
really
commend
the
work
off
the
selection
committee
for
not
discounting
lived
experience,
which
is
something
very
often
right
when
we
get
so
caught
up
in
the
diversity
of
identities.
We
forget
about
the
diversity
that
each
identity
has
a
lived
experience
and
which
is
where
then,
that
voice
comes,
and
you
know
which
we
don't
we're
not
always
aware
of,
but-
and
this
was
just
more
of
a
comment-
I
believe
counselor
two,
so
you
had
mentioned
something
about
that.
F
Historically,
groups
that
have
have
again
been
marginalized
or
racialized
or
discriminated
against,
so
trust
is
going
to
have
to
be
built
over
time
right,
like
one-off
settings
or
meetings
is
not
going
to
do
it.
So
this
is
going
to
have
to
be
a
Continuum
and
I'm
really
encouraged
to
see
again
with
Mom
moment
at
the
helm
of
this
and
the
support
of
the
city
of
Kingston.
F
If
we
keep
reminding
and
if
we
keep
making
sure
that
the
message
is
getting
back
out
there
to
the
community
over
time,
that's
that
trust
that
has
been
eroded
will
be
rebuilt,
so
really
important
to
make
sure
that
these
messages
are
being
captured
and
shared
widely.
So
that's
all
that
I
wanted
to
share.
B
That
is
such
a
great
Point
councilor
toso.
E
Just
to
comment
on
that
yeah,
I,
I,
think
and
Care
through
you
I
think.
A
point
of
these
committees
is
not
just
Equity,
but
it's
a
lab,
exaggerating
voices
that
haven't
been
in
government
and
I
I
see
nothing
wrong
with
that.
E
If
we
have
more
of
an
amplification
from
groups
that
have
been
skeptical
of
government
I'm,
fine
with
that
and
I
I
wanted
to
amplify
those
voices,
and
that
will
require
a
lot
of
trust
building
on
the
part
of
us
as
representatives
of
government
to
build
those
bridges
into
communities,
so
they
do
feel
comfortable.
I
was
always
encouraged
when
I
saw
some
self-disclosure
and
it's
like
you
trust
us
enough
to
disclose
your
lived
experience,
we're
starting
to
do
something
right.
Well,
let's
do
more
of
that
right.
So
thank
you.
D
Thank
you
to
your
help:
I
I'm
gonna.
Basically,
a
clarification
question
which
probably
beseech
my
in
terms
of
Municipal
processes.
I
was
looking
at
the
nzm
musical
recommendations
we
presented
and
there
was
one
number
60..
We
talked
about
redirecting
funding,
alternative
matters
to
police,
policing
and
Municipal
budget.
So
my
convocation
question
is
I.
C
Chair
Hill
through
you
of
so
there
were
two
municipal
recommendations.
It
was
not
one
that
we
did
not
touch
here.
One
was
the
recommendation.
Number
of
56,
which
was
municipalities,
provide
dedicated
funding
for
local
community-based
anti-islamophobia
initiatives
and
number
60,
redirect
funding
towards
alternative
measures
to
police
in
Municipal
budgets.
So
the
these
two
are
the
reason
why
my
office
deferred
from
making
a
recommendation
on
this
3di
committee
is
two
Falls.
C
One
is
definitely
there
is
a
some
scope
limitations
for
us
from
the
EDI
and
city
as
a
corporation,
but
definitely
number
60,
which
is
about
alternating
measures
to
policing
in
Municipal
budgets,
is
something
that
Council
can
look
into
in
at
their
level
in
in
budgeting
area,
but
they're
a
little
bit
out
of
scope
from
the
work
that
we
do
from
city
of
Kingston,
while
Kingston
Police,
Service
and
city
of
Kingston's,
always
seen
as
one
big
umbrella
organization.
C
We
are
two
separate
entities
at
like
the
budget
does
come
from
us,
but
we
don't
have
any
jurisdiction
as
staff
over
the
processes
than
the
day-to-day
work
that
Kingston
Police
provides.
We
do
have
a
cordial
relationship.
We
we
have
a
a
very
supportive
staff
from
Kingston
Police.
That
is
always
ready
to
work
with
us
closely,
but
that's
where
our
partnership
stops.
We
do
not
have
at
least
at
this
level
to
make
any
kind
of
policing
related
recommendation.
C
However,
for
56th
recommendation
on
providing
municipalities,
that
was
when
the
then,
the
the
man
city
council
back
in
February
2022
when
they
passed
this
motion.
There
was
another
part
of
that
motion
that
approved
the
budget
of
funding
for
supporting
the
the
a
Community
Fund
for
the
combating
islamophobia
that
they
allocated.
So
that's
why
the
you?
You
are
not
seeing
this
recommendation
here,
because
that
action
was
already
taken
immediately
by
city
council
and
they
asked
us
to
review
the
remaining
recommendations.
D
B
Wonderful,
so
are
there
any
more
questions
or
comments
from
the
committee?
B
No
okay,
and
are
there
any
comments
from
the
public?
Do
we
have
anybody
from
the
public
here.
B
Okay,
so
do
we
consider
this
motion
I'll
ask
for
a
mover,
counselor,
toso
and
a
seconder?
How
wonderful.
B
Okay,
do
we
create
a
vote
I'm
so
sorry
I'm
still
new
to
this?
Do
we
have
a
vote.
A
Yes,
if
there's,
the
committee
has
an
opportunity
to
deliberate.
If
there's
any
further
comments
or
any
further
questions,
they
can
do
so
at
this
time.
Otherwise
you
can
go
ahead
and
call
the
vote.
Okay,.
B
All
opposed
awesome
seems
unanimous
all
right,
so
I
don't
think
we
have
any
other
agenda
items
and
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
motions
at
all
or
notices
of
motion
and
there
is
no
other
business.
So
the
date
and
time
of
the
next
meeting
is
to
be
determined
and
I.
Guess
we'll
go
to
adjournment
so
for
a
vote
of
adjournment
mover
oh,
go
ahead.
Muhammad
I
might
be
missing
something.
C
No
you're
not
but
I,
want
to
take
this
opportunity
before
this
committee
address
that
there
there
will
be
some
of
the
Community
Committee
members
who
will
be
returning
for
the
next
year,
and
then
some
of
you
will
be
moving
on
to
other
initiatives
and
roles.
So
I
really
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
the
initiator
of
change
through
India
advisory
committee.
C
You
were
the
first
group
of
people
who
came
together
so
like
I
like
so
thank
you
very
much
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart
for
being
the
leader
of
a
significant
change
for
the
the
cooperation
of
the
city
of
Kingston.
While
you
may
not
be
back
at
this
EDI
committee
as
advisory
members,
but
you're
always
welcome
to
connect
with
us.
C
So
I
really
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
all
of
you
for
all
the
amazing
work
of,
and
you
know,
I
cannot
be
grateful
enough
to
be
able
to
work
with
this
amazing
group
of
people
and
like
really
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
next
cohort
of
advisory
committee.
So
really
really
really
thankful
for
all
the
amazing
things
we
have
done
together.
However,
miles
to
go
before
we
can
say
we
have
done
our
work,
which
we
will
continue
doing.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Yeah,
that
is
a
wonderful
comment
and
again
like
thank
you
for
your
work
as
well.
Muhammad
like
I'm,
so
glad
that
this
committee
is
a
thing
and
that
we're
doing
really
great
work
and
making
really
great
change
so
right
now,
I'm
gonna
call
for
the
adjournment
of
the
meeting.
Can
I
get
a
mover,
counselor
tozo
and
a
seconder
Sunita
awesome
so
have
a
wonderful
day.
Everybody.
Thank
you.
So
much
by
e.