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Heritage Kingston meeting from October 17, 2018. For the full meeting agenda visit http://bit.ly/2rBFudk
B
Excuse
me
just
on
page
11,
a
second
paragraph
from
the
bottom,
so
it
miss
hire
noted
that
historically,
the
design
of
the
ground
floor
effect
reflected
the
design
of
the
upper
floors.
So
this
is
the
Prince
George
building
and
what
he
actually
said
was
the
paint
color
so
because
in
the
drawings
it
shows
one
color
on
the
ground
floor
and
a
different
color
above
and
I
didn't
think
that
that
was
acceptable.
A
A
C
A
A
D
And
it
has
to
do
with
Jackson
holds
a
three-story
limestone
building
built
in
1906
on
thirty
five
fifth
field
company
Lane.
This
is
the
building
that
we
all
know
it
is
subject
to
the
queen's
heritage.
Easement
agreement
was
registered
1998,
it
had
the
third
storey
added
the
19
late
1950s,
originally
constructed
as
a
gym.
D
This
steps
that
you
see
this
is
actually
a
fairly
recent
picture
of
the
completed
reconstruction,
restoration
of
those
limestone
staircase
and
the
construction
of
the
Center
railing
and,
what's
before
you
today,
is
an
application
for
two
additional
railings
that
are
to
flank
the
the
outside
of
this
staircase.
It
was
after
construction.
The
it
was
determined
that
there
is
a
safety
hazard
with
the
level
of
the
knee
walls.
D
Coming
out
of
that
door
is
at
the
same
play
the
same
level
as
the
landing
itself,
so
to
ensure
safety
of
the
students
and
staff
using
this
entrance
guards.
New
railings
along
sides
are
proposed
there
to
be
similar
to
the
center
railing
that
runs
down
the
building.
It
is
as
an
iron
metal
railing
and
a
dark
color
with
black
or
grey.
The
new
railings
are
to
go
right
against
the
or
near
the
the
new
was
on
the
outside
in
a
similar
fashion.
So
we've
reviewed
this.
D
A
D
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
this
property
is
167,
Ontario
Street,
it's
at
the
corner
of
Ontario
and
Johnson
streets.
It
is
the
former
Grand
Trunk
Railway
Station,
formerly
there's
a
picture
from
the
early
70s.
It
was
recently
frankly
pesto's
Italian
eatery
and
the
Heritage
value
of
this
property
stems
from
its
architect,
William
Newlands,
who
designed
it
and
its
association
with
the
railway,
as
well
as
its
his
design
characteristics.
It
was
designated
in
1984
under
part
for
the
new
owner
of
the
property
is
going
to
repurpose
the
building
for
another
restaurant.
D
It
is
going
to
be
named,
PJ,
Murphy's,
Irish,
gastropub
and
recently
some
signage
was
replaced
on
this
building
and
some
minor
pointing
done
under
staffs
authority.
The
signs
you
see
on
the
walls
are
in
the
same
location
size
as
is
what's
there
today
and
have
been
just
rebranded.
However,
what
is
before
this
committee
is
a
new
sign
that
is
to
hang
is
to
replace
the
neon
Frankie
pesto
sign
above
the
little
gabled
door,
entranceway
arch.
D
It
is
to
hang
below
and
underneath
that
that
arch,
but
yet
proud
of
the
of
the
wall
itself
to
allow
light
in
through
the
transom.
That's
behind
the
sign,
as
you
can
see,
it's
fits
within
that
opening
it
is.
It
has
evolved
from
comments
received
from
this
committee.
The
the
White
has
been
lessened
with
a
more
darker
sign,
which
is
no
longer
going
to
be
lit
internally.
D
D
We
circulated
it
to
the
usual
agencies
and
our
licensing
team
has
noted
that
a
business
license
is
required.
Building
of
course,
notes.
The
sign
permit
will
be
required
and
the
comments
that
were
provided
through
from
this
committee
have
have
been
considered
and
and
addressed
by
the
applicate
themselves,
so
I'm
sure
chair.
We
recommend
approval
this
application
with
the
the
two
conditions
outlined.
B
Thank
you.
One
of
the
comments
from
I
think
it
was.
You
was
about
the
size
of
the
spine
and
from
the
image
I
have
here,
it's
a
very
large
sign
and
it
seems
to
go
from
side
to
side
and
right
up
under
the
canopy
and
so
that
the
the
brickwork
at
the
sides
and
at
the
top
of
the
transom
are
completely
covered
and
I
wondered
whether
it
is
possible
to
deal
with
that
a
little
more
sympathetically
as
far
as
the
buildings
concerned.
D
Thank
You
mr.
chair
design,
design
to
sort
of
nestled
in
the
canopy.
The
canopy
sits
out
from
the
building
a
couple
of
feet,
so
this
sign
is
to
fit
just
behind
the
detailing
on
the
front.
Actually,
this
older
picture
shows
two
detailing
a
little
more,
so
that
detailing
will
once
again
be
exposed
and
restored
the
the
cross
pattern
in
the
in
the
cable
itself
and-
and
this
sign
will
sit
just
behind
that.
D
But,
as
you
can
see,
there
is
still
some
space
and
given
the
height
of
the
height
of
the
canopy
itself,
that
brickwork
and
the
transom
will
still
be
visible
when
you're
coming
into
the
building.
So
it's
not
gonna
be
completely
obscured,
but
the
applicants
would
like
to
sort
of
showcase
the
main
entrance
of
this
building
so
for
their
new
restaurant
and
we
find
the
sign
it's
a
good
compromise
and
certainly
an
improvement
over
the
the
neon
one
that
blocks
all
this
lovely
detailing.
A
A
Katherine
is
right.
There
seems
there's
a
bit
of
concern
about
the
signs
concealing
some
features.
But
what
appears
to
have
happened
is
that
it's
uncovered
the
protocol,
which
was
previously
covered
and
now
it's
covering
to
some
extent
the
transom
but
I
guess
the
rough
staff
are
saying,
is
it's
it's
a
net
win,
but
it's
up
to
the
committee
to
to
vote
on
the
recommendation.
So
there
any
other
comments
on
this.
E
A
E
A
D
D
The
property
itself,
the
building
itself,
was
evaluated
as
far
back
as
2012.
During
the
William
Main
Street
study
by
Bray
heritage,
it
was
recommended
as
a
property
of
interest.
At
that
point,
we
then
commissioned
Laura
Laurie
Smith
consulting
in
2013
to
do
a
906
review
of
this
property
and
she
recommended
to
be
designated
at
that
time
and
then
in
2016
it
was
listed
on
the
Heritage
Register
as
a
property
of
interest,
the
Heritage
value.
D
So
this
is
the
property
from
Princess
Street
that
it's
been
clad
in
stucco
and
tile
for
some
time,
and
you
can
see
the
profile
still
is
still
present,
as
well
as
a
number
of
original
openings,
and
this
is
the
rear.
There
are
a
number
of
later
additions
added
in
the
mid
to
late
twentieth
century
on
the
back
of
this
building,
and
so
the
heritage
value
of
this
properties
is
fairly
extensive.
This
particular
intersection
of
Victoria
was
sort
of
the
core
of
princess
Street
or
a
core
of
Williamsville.
D
Historically,
when
Williamsville
was
was
growing
in
the
1840s
and
1850s,
this
particular
building
was
for
the
most
part
used
by
the
karnovski
family
for
their
bakery.
They
operate
a
bakery
in
this
building
for
over
100
years
and
the
attributes
are
listed
there
on
the
screen
and
they're
in
the
report.
They
include
the
its
presence
on
princess
Street,
as
well
as
its
shape
and
massing
the
openings,
the
the
limestone
cladding,
of
course,
and
the
gable
roof,
as
well
as
the
round
arch
doorway
on
consistory.
D
The
owners
of
this
property
have
recently
been
granted
approval
for
a
10-story
mixed-use.
Building
located
on
this
property
has
approximately
325
residential
units
as
well
as
ground-floor
commercial
space,
The
Associated
official
plan
and
zoning
amendments
have
been
approved
and
the
details
of
site
function
and
design
are
currently
being
refined
through
the
site
plan
control
application.
Current
drafts
of
this
proposal
are
in
your
agenda
package.
D
The
karnovski
bakery
building
is
to
be
restored
and
retained
as
a
featured
event
featured
prominently
in
its
current
location
as
a
possible
cafe
restaurant
space
with
office
above
so
what
is
before
us
today
is
is
an
application
to
ensure
that
that
this
building
is
retained
and
restored
properly
and
conserved
into
the
future.
An
overview
of
the
conservation
approach
is
in
the
agenda
package
by
metropolitan,
limited
and
John
Cook
associates.
The
conservation
approach
is
to
ensure
that
the
1840s
building
is
restored
and
conserved
and
aptly
reused
in
accordance
with
best
practices.
D
The
later
rear
additions,
as
I
noted,
are
be
on
back
hard
to
be
removed.
The
restoration
plans
include
removal
of
all
the
stucco
and
ceramic
tiles
cladding
on
this
building.
The
restoration
of
the
underlying
limestone
walls
that
includes
repairing
repointing
and
replacing,
where
necessary,
the
stones,
a
reconstruction
of
the
roof
structure
and
replacing
the
roofing
with
a
a
metal
roofing
and
a
standing,
seam
profile,
replacement
of
all
windows
and
the
doors
in
a
replica
six
or
six
glazing
pattern.
D
The
doors
are
to
be
an
appropriate
wood
or
wood,
clad
doors
for
the
period
of
building,
installation
and
altering
of
a
number
of
the
openings
that
have
been
inappropriately
altered
over
time,
particularly
on
the
front
of
the
building
and
and
then
the
infill
of
the
rear
wall.
With
a
two-story
glass
curtain
wall.
D
So,
in
order
to,
as
I
mentioned,
in
order
to
ensure
that
all
these
works
are
completed
in
accordance
with
the
conservation
approach
outlined
in
this
report
and
to
conserve
the
culture
hardens
value
of
the
CONOPS
key
bakery
for
the
long
term,
the
owners
have
agreed
to
enter
into
a
heritage
conservation,
easement
agreement
with
the
city
pursuant
to
part
four
of
the
Heritage
Act.
The
draft
agreement
is
included
in
your
agenda
package.
D
So,
while
conservation
of
the
impact
of
the
so
while
consideration
of
impact
to
a
listed
building
is
required
in
the
Official
Plan,
there
are
no
mechanisms
to
approve
alterations
to
a
listed
property.
So
this
application,
this
agreement,
will
act
as
the
conservation
mechanism
for
that
and
in
lieu
of
a
part
for
designation.
D
However,
future
alterations,
such
as
installation
of
new
signage,
for
example,
will
require
approval
following
the
part
for
section
33
and
3/4
processes
in
the
Heritage
Act,
which
we're
all
familiar
with,
so
that
has
been
included
in
the
easement
agreement
for
for
future
changes
as
well.
Of
course,
as
other
municipal
approvals,
such
a
sign
permits,
building
permits
and
the
like
so
stuff
note
that
the
draft
easement
agreement
is
intended
to
address
the
design
and
location
materiality
sorry.
D
The
draft
easement
agreement
is
not
intended
to
address
the
design,
location
and
materiality
of
the
new
mixed-use
building
matters
related
to
the
new
apartment
building
are
being
assessed
by
city
staff
through
the
site
plan
control
application.
The
draft
concept
plans
are
the
current
versions
that
you
saw
in
your
dinner
package
of
the
design
proposal
for
the
new
billing.
However,
these
designs
are
subject
to
change
or
may
be
subject
to
change.
D
The
draft
easement
agreement
is
to
work
in
tandem
with
the
site
plan
agreement,
so
so
they're
not
to
sort
of
conflict
with
each
other,
and
that
has
made
reference
to
in
the
agreement
itself,
and
we
do
note
and
I
appreciate
the
one
of
the
members
noted
the
inconsistency
with
some
of
the
details
in
both
those
plans.
I've
been
assured
by
the
consultant
and
the
owner
of
this
development
that
what
we're
looking
at
on
your
screen
is
the
current
approach
to
this
stone
building
and
the
plans
that
are
being
addressed.
D
The
site
plan
will
be
amended
to
follow
these.
These
specific
plans
and
I
would
note
that,
actually,
as
of
this
morning,
this
plan
has
been
updated,
and
this
is
the
most
recent
one
showing
the
new
metal
roof,
as
opposed
to
the
slate
shingles
and
also
the
downspout
has
now
been
moved
off
of
that
prominent
corner,
which
I
think
is
all
excellent.
D
The
most
significant
heritage
attributes
of
the
Karnofsky
bakery
building
are,
of
course,
its
location,
shape
and
profile,
the
limestone
walls
and,
what's
left
of
the
original
openings.
So
in
terms
of
the
shape
and
profile,
the
original
rectangular
footprint,
I
guess:
you'd
call
it
rectangular
and
to
store
a
gable
roof
profiles
to
be
conserved,
the
as
well
as
the
Twinbrook
chimneys.
The
roof
structure
is
noted
to
be
in
very
poor
shape
and
it
is
to
be
rebuilt,
but
to
follow
the
same
profile.
D
D
So,
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen,
there
are
a
number
of
conservation
approaches,
interventions
that
are
proposed
to
for
this
property.
In
terms
of
the
lamps
limestone
cladding,
there
was
a
building
condition
report
done
in
2017.
They
did
determine
that
the
masonry
of
this
building
is
in
good
condition
and
shows
little
sign
of
cracking
or
movement
and
and
can
be
repaired.
There
may
be
some
damage
when
the
stucco
has
taken
off,
but
that
it
has
hoped
that
it
will
all
be
restored
into
it's.
D
So
while
the
karnovski
Baker
building
has
seen
many
changes
over
the
years,
many
of
its
original
openings
are
still
there.
So
the
second
floor
on
the
North
elevation,
which
is
down
on
the
bottom
left
of
your
screen,
are
all
original
openings
and
they
are
to
be
retained
in
the
original
profile,
as
well
as
the
upper
floor.
Openings
on
the
west
elevation
are
also
an
existing
location.
D
The
applicants
are
proposing
to
in
to
alter
a
few
of
the
openings
on
the
North
elevation,
with
the
exception
of
the
arched
doorway,
which
should
be
retained
in
order
to
to
repair
that
in
appropriate
alterations
in
its
past
and
to
bring
it
back
to
sort
of
a
period
appropriate
style
similarily
on
the
east
and
west
elevations.
The
windows
are
to
match
the
pattern
of
the
building
of
its
period
and
to
allow
greater
light
and
flexibility
into
the
use
of
the
building.
D
The
the
windows
and
doors
again
have
been
assessed
as
part
of
this
condition.
Report
they're
found
to
be
in
really
poor
condition.
They
are
to
be
replicated
with
a
wooden
sash
window
and
a
six
over
six
pattern
in
the
original
shape
and
configuration.
The
doors
again
are
to
be
a
wood
or
wood
clad
door
in
an
appropriate
period,
and
all
of
those
details
are
to
be
reviewed
by
staff
as
they
are
being
employed
and
imposed
in
terms
of
the
South
elevation,
the
the
rear
south
wall.
D
The
first
story
is
stone,
and
the
second
story
is
brick.
Currently,
most
of
that
wall
is
concealed
by
those
rear
editions,
currently
and,
and
actually
that
wall
is
in.
The
condition
report
is
the
worst
in
as
far
as
the
conditions
go,
it
is
showing
sagging
and
cracking
and
some
movement.
The
applicant
intends
to
propose
us
to
remove
most
of
that
wall,
leaving
reveals
on
either
side
but
replacing
it
with
with
a
two-story
glass
curtain
wall.
D
Building,
Jason
and
I
would
note
that
the
most
prominent
walls
of
this
building
are
the
north
of
West
and
East
elevation,
which
are
highly
visible,
which
are
to
be
conserved
and
revealed
in
their
entirety.
The
modification
to
the
South
elevation
will
allow
for
a
greater
flexibility
and
improve
the
safety
of
the
site
and
will
have
I
have
no
impact
on
the
culture
heritage
attribute
to
this
property.
In
our
opinion
and
staff
support
this
this
wall,
so
the
former
karnovski
bakery
building
has
been
hidden
under
inappropriate
cladding
for
decades
and
the
suffered
from
an
unsympathetic
alterations.
D
The
proponents
conservation
approach
will
make
a
significant
heritage
resource
a
landmark
in
Williamsville
once
again
and
will
aid
in
the
public's
understanding
and
appreciation
of
this
history
of
this
area.
In
particular,
this
building
the
proposed
easement
agreement
will
ensure
that
this
resource
is
conserved
into
the
future.
This
application
was
circulated
to
to
this
committee,
who
provided
some
comments.
Most
of
them
have
been
addressed
in
our
overview.
All
of
them
have
been
addressed
in
our
view,
and
we
did
not
receive
any
any
objections
to
to
the
proposal.
D
A
Thank
You
Ryan
Committee
can
ask
questions.
Perhaps
I'll
lead
off
with
just
essentially
confirming
that
this
is
a
somewhat
unusual
approach.
Normally,
when
we
have
a
building
which
has
been
recognized
as
worthy
of
protection,
then
the
procedure
is
to
designate
it,
and
that
is
not
being
proposed
here.
A
Instead,
what's
being
proposed,
is
a
heritage
agreement,
easement
agreement
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
which
sort
of
does
similar
things
but
which
is
probably
more
acceptable
to
the
owners
and
applicants
in
view
of
the
development
that's
going
on
around
it,
so
I
can
understand
that
I
think
our
concern
is
whether
the
protection
is
this
building
is
appropriate
and
I
guess.
One
very
interesting
thing
again
quite
unusual
is
that,
although
it's
not
being
designated
once
the
agreement
is
in
place
and
I
guess
the
work
has
been
done.
Any
future
changes
will
follow.
A
Art
of
accordions
agreement
I
believe,
are
to
follow
the
procedures
as
if
it
was
designated.
That
is,
it
will
come
to
this
committee
for
approval
of
any
changes,
so
this
is.
This
is
kind
of
do
in
that
element
of.
It
is
good
in
the
sense
that,
as
the
years
go
by
and
changes
might
want
to
be
made,
this
committee
will
have
input
on
those
alterations
are
appropriate
or
not
so.
A
B
D
D
C
A
C
A
A
There
are
I
guess
in
an
ideal
world
we
we
might
want
a
bit
more
than
is
given
here
and
I.
Think
the
curtain
wall
at
the
rear
is
yes
has
raised.
Some
concerns
the
as,
as
the
diagram
show
the
view
up,
Victoria
Street
this
this
building
act
actually
projects,
so
you
will
see
quite
easily
I
think
from
that
view.
You'll
see
curtain
wall
Tahrir,
where
you
know
there
was,
and
maybe
still
is,
to
some
extent
a
limestone
wall.
A
You
know
that
we
have
some
assurance,
an
effort
to
increase
the
size
of
the
the
stretch
of
those
stone
reveals.
Another
concern
is
that
some
of
the
existing
windows
are
original
six
or
six
windows.
So
thanks
the
two
two
on
the
side
gable
and
probably
two
on
the
rear,
are
original,
six
over
six
windows
and
we
normally
I'd
like
to
see
them
retained
and
repaired,
but
that
doesn't
appear
to
be
present
in
the
plans.
So
again
we
would
you
know
we
hopefully
get
a
little
bit
more
restoration,
but
you
know
in
many
many
applications.
A
A
They
are
really
not
very
specific
in
the
sense
that
we're
not
going
to
see
draw
engineering
drawings
of
how
how
what
the
widths
of
the
stone
reveals
are
and
things
of
things
like
that,
so
we're
leaving
you
know,
you
know
this
Agreement
leaves
quite
a
bit
on
trust,
but
I
think
we
have.
You
saw
it
whether
we're
satisfied
and
whether
the
what
were
what
we're
getting
out
of
this
Agreement
is
unbalanced,
reasonable
and
sufficient.
So
I.
E
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I,
remember
when
this
application
first
appeared
at
planning
and
that
building
was
supposed
to
be
torn
down
and
there
was
going
to
be
an
echo
of
the
building
in
the
green
space
and
I
think
that
they
developer
thought
people
would
be
happy
to
have
this
building
gone
for
a
bit
of
a
parkette.
E
A
Imprecision
in
the
in
the
you
know,
lack
of
detail
in
the
in
the
proposal
so
that
there
could
be
perhaps
some
further
I'm
sure
there
will
be
further
discussions.
You
need
staff
and
applicant
about
details,
so
perhaps
so
bear
in
mind
the
comments
that
were
made,
such
as
they
are
so
ready
for
the
motion,
all
those
in
favor
Poznan
that
carries.
Thank
you.
F
Good
morning
everybody
so
81,
King
Street,
as
most
of
you
probably
know
by
now,
is
located
on
the
corner
of
King
Street
East
Maitland
Street
across
from
City
Park.
The
subject
property
contains
a
three-story,
Queen
and
style
building
there.
It
is
before
you
and
again
I
think
most
people
are
fairly
familiar
with
this
project,
so
in
terms
of
its
cultural
heritage
value,
we
all
know
it's
designated
under
parts
four
and
five
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
F
It
was
originally
a
large
brick
house
constructed
in
1841
for
John
Watkins,
but
was
substantially
enlarged
and
renovated
in
1886
into
the
three-story
residence
that
you
see
today,
which
was
likely
a
design
by
William
Newlands
and
has
identified
as
significant
the
old
Sydenham
HCD
so
moving
along.
So
in
in
on
June
26
2018
Council
approved
a
heritage
permit
for
the
rehabilitation
of
the
residents
from
a
multi-unit
dwelling
to
a
single
unit,
dwelling
which
included,
repairs,
alterations,
additions
and
selective
demolition.
F
Part
of
that
approval
was
a
new
extended
garage
to
the
east,
so
the
owners
upon
further
reflection
and
advice
from
their
consultants.
They
wish
to
revise
the
design
of
that
garage
to
include
three
additional
dormers
on
the
East
elevation
and
essentially,
this
is
to
allow
for
further
and
fairly
necessary
natural
lighting
of
the
space.
The
drawings
provided
in
the
original
permit.
Application
have
been
revised
to
provide
more
specific,
detailed
design
pertaining
to
these
alterations,
while
also
recognizing
some
of
the
components
that
building
that
are
to
be
retained.
That
work
and,
incidentally,
omitted
at
that
time.
F
So
the
application
is
largely,
is
basically
to
deal
with
the
new
garage
to
the
three
additional
dormers,
as
well
as
a
couple
changes
to
the
rear,
coach-house
stable
block.
So
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
the
roof
plan
which
shows
the
existing
permissions.
So
you'll
see
the
three
dormers
on
the
west
elevation,
as
well
as
the
rear,
original,
stable,
coach-house
block,
which
has
a
existing
dormer
on
the
east
elevation
and
an
existing
dormer
on
the
west
elevation.
F
So
the
first
element
to
this
application
is
the
three
new
dormers
on
the
east
elevation
of
the
garage,
and
these
are
intended
to
be
aligned
with
and
match
the
approved
dormers
on
the
west
elevation
and
the
only
difference
between
them
will
be
the
required
use
of
fire
rated
glass.
So
the
proposed
design
includes
the
same
exact,
same
glazing
and
pattern,
as
was
approved
on
the
west
elevation,
which
are
aluminum,
clad
windows
which
comply
with
our
section
five
point:
three
between
two
windows
and
the
old
synonym
plan.
F
So
the
report
that
was
previously
written
for
the
original
approval
noted
that
the
absence
of
any
windows
on
the
east
facing
elevation
of
the
enlarged
garage
will
ensure
against
any
potential
proof
overlooked
into
the
neighboring
private
emini
space,
and
one
of
our
members
did
drop
that
point.
So,
while
this
statement
does
remain
true,
it
should
be
noted
that
these
alterations,
these
three
additional
dorm
rooms,
do
comply
with
the
relevant
bylaw,
which
is
eight
four,
nine,
nine
per
tick
Euler
their
lis.
F
With
respect
to
the
minimum
front
wall
inside
wall,
setbacks
of
the
dormers
and
the
proportion
of
the
dormers
in
relation
to
the
main
roof,
so
taking
this
all
into
account,
the
location
massing,
the
garage
is
found
to
be
in
compliance
with
these
standards
that
have
been
established
by
the
city,
and
these
are
intended
in
part
to
limit
the
potential
for
that
obtrusive,
overlook
and
loss
of
privacy.
So
the
effect
of
adding
these
dormers
will
have
will
modestly
increase
the
massing
of
this
garage.
So
staff
assess
this
increased
massing
against
the
old
cinemates.
F
The
plan
section
five
point
two
point:
two
additions
and
section:
five
point:
four
additions,
and
essentially
we
look
to
see
that
the
additions
should
still
be
complementary
to
the
main,
building
and
clearly
secondary
in
terms
of
size.
And
while
we
do
assess
that
the
additions
will
result
in
a
slight
enlargement
of
the
garage,
we
still
see
that
the
overall
size
and
design
of
the
garage
will
remain
subordinate
to
the
original
building
and
additionally,
section
five
point.
Four
of
the
old
centum
plan
states
that
dormers
are
permitted
in
accordance
with
the
zoning
bylaw.
F
So,
ultimately,
these
three
additional
doors
will
not
adversely
impact
any
of
the
heritage
attributes
that
are
listed.
We
all
became
quite
aware
about
that
long
list
in
the
original
proposal
that
Andre
Simon
did
the
carried
out
the
HIAS
statement,
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
on
to
then
rear
and
I
just
wanted
to
actually
point
out
while
I'm
on
this
slide
the
retention
of
the
East,
the
dormer,
the
East
elevation
of
the
original
stable
block
they,
it
was,
incidentally,
omitted
in
the
original
application,
but
it
is
intended
to
remain.
F
F
Essentially,
this
existing
dormer
appears
to
be
a
relatively
recent
addition
to
the
kocho,
so
at
the
in
the
1970s,
when
they
converted
this
to
an
apartment
dwelling.
We
believe
that
that
was
added
there's
a
lot
of
evidence
in
terms
of
water
construction.
The
front
piece
is
essentially
painted
plywood.
So
the
proposal
is
to
remove
this
one
and
reconstruct
two
new
dormer
windows
on
this
elevation.
F
And
so
the
intention
here
is
that
this
part
of
the
coaches
will
act
as
an
indoor/outdoor
space
and,
as
a
result,
a
screen
door
and
two
screened
windows
are
proposed,
as
opposed
to
a
solid
insulated
door
and
window,
and
the
remainder
of
the
opening
that
is
around
these
new
screen.
Doors
and
windows
will
be
filled
in
with
stonework
to
match
the
existing
as
far
as
possible.
So
essentially,
this
is
a
very
modest
and
inconspicuous
design
that
completes
this
elevation
and
the
associated
voids
that
exist.
Now.
F
The
stone
walls
and
the
general
volume
of
the
existing
garage
that
may
have
originated
during
the
Watkins
era
and
is
listed
as
the
attribute
will
be
conserved.
And,
moreover,
we
don't
see
this
proposal
as
having
a
very
much
of
an
effect
on
the
HDD,
as
it's
quite
hidden
around
the
corner
and
out
of
view.
A
A
A
A
G
A
A
H
Are
our
goal
on
that
is
to
use
that
area
as
how
it's
described
as
a
three-season
area,
and
so
it
will
be
screens
that
will
be
there
and
we're
going
to
recreate
storm
windows
that
would
match
the
front
elevation
of
the
home.
That
would
be
able
to
be
inserted
in
that
area,
so
that
would
really
lend
itself
to
the
real
authentic
character.
I
mean
that
old,
stable
I
would
love
you
to
see
it.
H
Sometime
is
really
quite
extraordinary
on
the
inside
with
the
stone
and
it's
our
goal
to
really
bring
it
back
to
a
feel
of
a
stable,
both
inside
and
out,
and
so
keeping
that
very
authentic
on
the
outside
with
the
screen
would
be
low-profile
and
beautiful.
Storm
windows,
as
we
come
into
the
winter
season,
will
both
be
in
the
window
area
and
in
the
door
area.
So
if
you
nicely
protected,
thank.
A
A
A
F
So
the
application
before
you
today,
which
was
deferred
from
last
meeting,
is
an
application
under
section
42,
the
ACT,
to
gain
approval
to
repoint
and
apply
a
waterproof
caulking
material
to
the
mortar
joints,
the
north
and
south
exit
stairs
on
the
front
elevation
of
the
building.
Additionally,
the
application
proposes
the
ceiling
of
open
joints
and
cracks
on
the
stone
treads
with
a
removable
caulking
compound.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everyone
was
aware
of
which
stairs
we
were.
We
were
looking
at
so
this
was
to
orient
us.
F
So,
according
to
the
department
staff
in
facilities,
construction
management,
the
north
and
south
stairs
are
in
a
deteriorated,
deteriorating
state
of
repair
following
years
of
rain,
snow
and
ice
removal
activities
so
which
have
allowed
water
to
reach
the
line
from
both
the
visible
and
hidden
mortar
joints.
This
has
resulted
in
the
settlement
of
treads,
which
now
slope
in
towards
the
risers,
as
well
as
the
water
beat,
which
has
led
to
the
water
being
unable
to
drain
away
from
the
exterior
and
penetrating
the
mortar
joints.
F
The
limestone,
the
varied
winter
temperature
and
heat
loss
have
led
to
damaging
freeze-thaw
cycles
and
I
think
most
people
agree
that
the
stairs
are
and
have
nots
in
a
great
state
of
repair
at
present.
Additionally,
the
water
has
been
seeping
through
these
joints
and
flooring.
Areas
into
the
basement
of
City
Hall
staff
have
viewed
the
stairs
on
several
occasions
and
we've
actually
visited
underneath
the
stairs
and
with
an
engineer,
we
do
agree
that
this
condition
is
a
fair
assessment.
F
So
and
following
the
application
of
a
heritage,
mortar
mix
in
2016
and
2017
staff
are
concerned
that
this
approach
is
not
lasting
through
the
winter
and
essentially
given
their
current
construct
current
condition.
They
feel
that
reconstruction
is
the
only
long-term
sustainable
approach.
However,
in
the
short
term,
staff
are
tasked
with
assessing
the
impact
of
the
proposed
approach
to
prevent
the
water
ingress.
F
Nonetheless,
there
were
so
many
concerns
regarding
this
test.
Following
the
test,
we
had
many
concerns
from
our
heritage
committee
members,
specifically
with
regards
to
the
fact
that
this
was
not
going
to
be
a
was
not
going
to
be
reversible.
So
essentially,
once
this
mg
Cret
was
applied,
those
stones
were
most
likely
not
going
to
be
able
to
be
reused
in
a
reconstruction,
so
additional
advice
was
sought
from
local
heritage,
consultants
and
engineering
consultants,
and
now
a
new
approach
is
proposed
that
essentially
seeks
to
minimize
the
water
penetration
as
far
as
possible.
F
Accepting
that
the
treads
will
still
be
sloped
inwards,
and
we
just
have
to
accept
that
until
the
point
that
they
are
reconstructed,
it's
ever-evolving
as
they
gain
more
knowledge
and
speak
to
more
knowledge
with
people
at
present,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you've
noticed
today,
they
are
raking
out
the
old
sand
on
this,
and
they
want
to
do
some
testing
of
this
waterproof
caulking
compound,
which
is
called
reconstruct.
It's
very
awkward
word,
but
they're
actually
now
considering
using
a
harder
type
s
line
based
mortar
to
see
if
that
will
get
through
the
winter.
F
So
really,
the
approach
has
has
radically
shifted
to
a
point
where
we're
very
comfortable.
Not
we
hope
this
will
minimize
the
water.
There
is
actually
temporary
shoring
underneath
the
stairs
right
now
in
the
form
of
simple
two
by
fours
put
together.
The
engineer
advised
that,
given
the
settlement,
they
do
need
some
support
underneath
until
they
can
be
reconstructed.
However,
that
did
not
require
hair
just
from
a
given
the
temporary
nature
and
in
no
impact
so
I'll
just
bring
up.
So
these
were
the
test
patches
that
were
carried
out.
F
So
I
think
I
spoke
to
the
consultation
with
the
committee
and
I
hope,
I
think
and
I
hope
I
believe
that
these
comments
have
been
addressed
through
the
further
advice
from
heritage,
consultants
and
engineers.
So
as
it
stands,
staffs
of
staff
support
this
this
application
and
we're
confident
that
this
will
conserve
these
important
heritage,
attributes
of
City
Hall.
So
I
will
leave
this
recommendation
before
you
as
a
couple
pages,
but
essentially
they're,
going
to
carry
out
some
test
patches
and
also
we
encourage
them
to
consult
the
committee
prior
to
the
reconstruction.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
again,
part
five
application
and
first
need
to
confirm
that
staff
have
captured
the
input
from
through
from
heritage
Kingston
members
and
in
my
case
they
have
and
I
think
I
think
did
you
yours,
you're,
okay,
Jane!
Thank
you.
So
that's
fine
questions
from
the
public
on
this
application.
A
A
Certainly
I
can
say
that
I'm
pleased
that
staff
are
are
following
the
approach
of
giving
giving
time
to
so
that
good
repairs
can
be
done
to
these
stairs
without
jeopardizing
the
the
existing
stairs
and
so
I
hope
in
future.
That
will
happen.
They'll
be
good.
So
any
other
comments
on
this
application
ready
for
the
motion
all
in
favor.
A
F
The
subject
property
contains
the
Frontenac
Club
a
three-story
stone
commercial
building,
so
this
commercial
building
was
designed
by
Edward
and
crane
and
constructed
in
1845
1846
for
the
Bank
of
Montreal,
the
Bank
occupied
a
the
bank
occupied
the
building
until
1906,
at
which
point
they
moved
to
their
current
location,
at
297,
King,
Street
East
and
in
1908
the
building
was
sold
to
the
Frontenac
club.
So
during
their
occupation,
new
additions
were
constructed,
including
a
bowling
alley
and
billiards
room,
and
these
additions
were
designed
by
power
and
son.
F
So
in
terms
of
the
cultural
heritage
value,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
quite
a
significant
stone,
building
design
for
the
Bank
of
Montreal,
and
it
is
a
fine
example
of
a
Classical
Revival
style,
I
attempted
to
compile
sort
of
list
of
heritage
attributes,
since
the
designation
viola
does
not
contain
them.
This
is
just
a
sample,
there's
quite
a
few
here.
Just
attributes
associated
with
this
property
and
I
think
you'll
notice.
F
So
I
won't
go
over
every
single
item
here,
but,
as
you
can
see,
the
application
does
include
quite
a
number
of
alterations,
dealing
with
windows,
doors,
roofs,
stonework
landscaping,
as
well
as
a
new
portico
fire
escapes,
etc
and
I'm
going
to
try
my
best
to
focus
on
the
sort
of
overview
of
key
areas,
particularly
looking
at
the
additions,
which
are
the
probably
most
key
intervention
as
part
of
this
proposal.
Just
in
terms
of
materials.
F
I
just
want
to
point
out
that,
in
terms
of
the
old
cinemate
CD
plan,
we're
looking
to
section
five
point,
three
point:
three
cladding
with
five
point:
three
point:
one
roofs.
So
we
have
the
new
materials
in
this.
Application
include
stone
masonry
as
well
as
painted
fiber
cement
board
and
a
standing
seam
metal
roof.
F
An
implant
advises
us
to
use
paint
colors
that
are
compatible
with
the
Heritage
character,
the
district
and
complementary
to
the
aged
style
detailing
the
building,
and
although
black
is
not
necessarily
characteristic
of
the
district,
it
has
been
present
on
this
building
for
a
long
time
and
as
we
understand
it
was
a
common
for
banks.
So,
as
a
result,
staff
are
comfortable
supporting
that
element
of
the
proposal,
so
I'm
gonna
move
to
the
additions,
because
I
think
they're
probably
the
most
worthy
of
attention
and
discussion
in
this
application.
F
So
they
are
the
principal
alterations
which
are
two
new
rooftop
additions
located
midway
above
the
billiard
room
and
the
bowling
alley.
These
additions
are
constructed
of
curtain
glass,
walls
with
horizontal
glass,
spandrel
panels,
stone
walls
and
painted
fiber
cement
board
wall,
slat
walls,
the
smaller
single
room
addition
is
located,
midpoint
on
the
southeast
corner
of
the
billiard
room
and
the
larger
addition
spans
two
floors
midpoint
over
the
bowling
alley
facing
William
Street.
F
So
the
ministry
of
culture,
tourism,
sports,
eight
guiding
principles
and
I
want
to
highlight
principle:
seven,
which
is
the
notion
of
legibility
and
heritage
conservation,
and
that
is
that
new
work
should
be
distinguishable
from
old
and
new
editions
should
not
lure
the
distinction
between
new
and
old.
This
principles
also
represented
in
the
each
seed
plan.
F
Given
the
current
corner,
location
of
the
property,
the
William
Street
addition
will
be
largely
visible
from
the
public
realm.
So
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
HDD
plan,
we
assess
against
section
five
point,
two
point:
two
which
deals
with
additions
and
found
that
these
additions
do
comply
with
those
guidelines.
So,
specifically,
the
proposed
new
additions
do
not
attempt
to
replicate
an
existing
heritage
style,
but
they
rather
add
a
distinctive
new
layer
of
architecture
to
this
property.
The
selected
pallet
of
materials
is
complementary,
did
the
stone
and
does
not
visual?
F
I
know
there
has
been
some
back-and-forth
on
those
railings
there's
difference
of
opinions
amongst
the
committee
as
to
the
glass
versus
at
one
point.
They
were
shown
as
plaint
painted
black
steel.
So
at
this
point
in
time
we
are
assessing
them
in
terms
of
what
is
being
proposed
with,
which
is
the
glass
and
stuff.
Do
you
find
that
they
will
help
to
minimize
the
amassing
of
that
new
edition
of
top?
F
So
the
design
of
both
editions
also
have
developed
in
response
to
consultation
with
the
committee,
and
the
committee
had
voiced
concerns
at
the
pre
consultation
regarding
a
large
expanse
of
glass
on
the
William
Street
addition
that
we
see
in
front
of
us
here.
So
this
current
proposal
now
includes
two
blasts
Panjal
panels
with
a
painted
bulkhead
behind
that
divided
the
two-story
expanse,
both
horizontally
and
also
sort
of
provide
a
definition
to
the
to
the
cap.
F
There
section
five
point:
four
point:
two
which
looks
like
corner
lock
properties
advises
that
large
areas
of
new
glazing,
visible
to
the
street
should
only
be
considered
a
tree
or
additions
located
on
corner
Lots.
So
this
proposal
does
appear
to
that
guideline
insofar
as
the
addition
is
to
the
rear
of
this
property,
and
it
is
set
back
from
the
main
building
and
from
William
Street
and
I
I
do
stuff.
F
Lastly,
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
stuff
I
have
also
considered
the
history
of
this
property
and
it's
interesting
evolution
so
as
it
grew
and
it
adapted
to
changing
economic
conditions
and
uses
associated
with
this
evolution,
there's
a
presence
of
a
variety
of
building
styles
on
the
property
and
different
types.
So
we
have
the
original
Bank
building.
We
also
have
a
Cartwright
house.
We
have
the
power
and
signage
and
they've
all
merged
together
with
various
infill
editions.
F
So
in
hearing
to
the
best
practice
and
to
the
old
Sydenham
plan,
these
new
additions
are
complementary,
clearly
secondary
in
terms
of
their
size
and
but
most
importantly,
they're
easily
distinguishable
in
form
and
detail.
So
by
applying
these
guidelines,
we
can
be
ensured
that
this
these
additions
represent
a
new
layer
of
architecture
on
the
site
and
continue
to
provide
a
legible
appreciation
of
the
evolution
of
this
site,
so
I'm
quickly
going
to
move
through
doors
and
windows,
because
I
think
so,
and
Rishon
me
and
Andrey
Shimon
was
retained
by
the
applicant
and
I
know
upfront.
F
There
were
some
concerns
about
the
replacement
of
the
windows
on
this
building.
So
Andrey
did
a
window
inventory
and
his
recommendations
have
all
been
adopted
which
essentially
seek
to
retain
all
of
the
original
early
or
just
good
condition
replacement
windows
on
the
property
so
on
the
original
Bank
building,
all
the
windows
on
the
front
elevation
and
the
William
Street
Edition
are
being
retained.
There's
actually
going
to
be
some
restoration
of
window
openings
that
have
been
elongated
they're
gonna
go
back
to
their
original
proportions.
F
F
The
original,
if
not
very
early
windows
on
the
Cartwright
house,
which
are
the
multi
paint
in
word,
opening
casements
they
are
all
to
be
retained
and
repaired
as
well.
An
interesting
me
or
I
find
this
interesting.
The
original
windows
on
the
South
East
elevation,
the
billiard
room,
were
designed
by
Colin
driver
who
was
a
well
known
architect
and
they're
an
interesting
design
insofar
as
they're
a
tripartite
window
with
a
large
transom
in
the
Moline
section
that
ends
of
the
transfer,
so
it
doesn't
run
all
the
way
up.
These
windows
are
not
in
great
condition.
F
They
are
going
to
be
replaced,
but
they're
going
to
be
replacing
that
same
sort
of
even
unique
design.
So
the
windows
strategy
that
has
been
presented
in
an
application
proposes
the
retention
of
a
significant
number
of
original
early
period
wood
windows.
Additionally,
it
proposes
a
restoration
of
a
number
of
original
sash
window
configurations
and
openings
that
have
been
modified
over
time
and,
as
I
mentioned,
I've
known
as
a
rehabilitation
of
the
driver
windows
which
are
peculiar
and
perhaps
unique
to
this
building,
with
new
aluminum
clad
units
to
match
this
design
and
division
of
lights.
F
So
I'm
just
gonna
speak
quickly
about
the
entrance
doors
because
that's
also
been
an
ongoing
evolution
and
discussion.
So
right
now
the
proposal
includes
the
essentially
the
swapping
of
the
King
Street
East
door,
as
in
the
William
Street
door.
So
the
William
Street
doors
is,
you
can
recall
our
not
original,
but
they're
sort
of
period-appropriate
wooden
double
leaf
doors.
So
it's
it
is
generally
not
best
practice
to
move
historic
features
around
on
a
building.
However,
I'm
gonna,
that's
gonna
sort
of
I
want
to
explain
the
sort
of
three
reasons.
F
Basically
that
led
to
why
we
find
this
to
be
a
reasonable
approach,
so,
firstly,
the
fire
marshal
does
have
issues
with
the
existing
William
Street
door
in
terms
of
the
width,
so
they
want
to
see
a
wider
door
on
the
William
Street
exit
as
well.
We
know
that
the
entrance
doors
on
William,
Street
and
King
Street
both
are
not
original.
F
We
know
that
the
William
Street
door
is
an
early
period,
EE
wood
door,
and
we
know
that
at
the
time
that
the
University
of
Toronto
students
did
drawings
of
this
building
in
1961
that
on
King
Street
East,
there
was
similar
double
leaf
doors
to
William
Street,
just
slightly
larger
so
and
lastly,
the
owners
are
obviously
concerned
about
the
ease
of
ingress
and
exits
through
the
William
Street
double
doors
which
are
awkward
for
people
to
get
suitcases
through
and
whatnot.
So
the
relocation
of
these
doors
will
have
an
impact
on
these
heritage
attributes.
F
But
for
the
reasons
noted
noted,
we
are
comfortable,
as
that
least
they
will
retain.
They
will
retain
these
the
original,
really
or
early
William
Street
doors,
and
also
to
reinstate
them
on
a
prominent
face
the
building.
So
they
will
be
quite
nicely
visible.
Now
there
will
have
to
be
some
detailing
to
make
them
fit
and
in
terms
of
the
window,
trim
I
believe
that
on
the
King
Street
elevation
we'll
be
losing
the
transom
lights
around
that
door.
That
are
not
that,
obviously
post-1960
ones
are
not
particularly
old.
F
Lastly,
in
terms
of
entrances,
as
you
can
see
here,
a
new
awning
is
proposed
over
the
William
Street
entrance
to
provide
shelter
and
to
provide
a
clear
entrance
for
the
hotel.
There
was
some
discussion
back
in
August
when
you're
on
site
about
the
design
of
this
awning
I'd
say
the
major
change
and
improvement
is
that
it
no
longer
steps
down
on
the
stairs.
It's
just
one
simple
plain,
and
it
does
importantly,
it
also
does
not
cover
over
the
entablature
over
the
door,
which
is
quite
beautiful,
sort
of
sits
just
below.
F
Okay,
lastly,
I'll
just
quickly
to
mention
the
roof,
which
is
proposed
to
retain
the
original
Bank
roof,
but
to
put
a
new
insulated
roof
roofing
system
over
top,
which
is
essentially
comprised
of
new
sheathing
and
membrane
and
a
new
metal
roof.
So
the
intention
is
to
install
at
this
point
new
eavestroughs
above
the
existing
stone
troughs
and
also
to
to
utilize
the
existing
down
pipes.
F
Well,
sorry,
they
are
not
to
use
like
leaves
the
down
pipes,
but
to
that
holes
in
the
and
the
down
pipes
to
go
through
the
corner
so
that
they
don't
additionally
create
new
holes
in
the
in
the
eaves
trough.
Now
these
can
be
there's
a
condition
regarding
this
roof.
As
the
duct
details
haven't
been
finalized,
but
we
are
confident
that
the
roof
profile
will
remain
the
same
from
the
street
and
that
at
least
the
replacement
roofing
in
terms
of
metal
roofing
is
compatible
with
the
architectural
style
of
the
building.
F
So,
lastly,
they
are
going
to
do
a
number
of
repair
and
a
pointing
work
to
the
various
stonework
on
the
building.
I
think
a
good
one.
A
big
improvement,
that's
worth
noting
is
the
removal
of
the
metal
coping
on
the
stonewall,
King,
Street
East
and
the
repair
replacement
of
that
stone.
Coping
underneath
a
bunch
of
landscaping
is
proposed
around
the
building
staff
is
confident
that
all
of
that
landscaping
will
will
conserve
the
setting
of
this
building.
F
So
in
terms
of
comments
from
the
committee,
we
did
receive
some
written
comments
for
the
formal
application,
largely
they
related
to
the
proposed
proposed
glass
additions.
One
member
suggested
that
the
explants
of
glass
be
divided
ether
into
two
stories
or
bad
another
solid
element.
So
the
proposal
has
evolved
attempt
to
address
that
in
terms
of
the
glass
spandrel
with
bulkhead
behind
horizontal
panels.
F
There
was
also
concerns
about
the
visibility
through
the
glass
to
a
private
space
that
we
can't
moderate.
We
can't
control
and
what
would
be
visible
and
I
mean.
This
is
a
very
interesting
relevant
comment
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
We
can't
regulate
that
interior
and
how
that
space
functions
and
I
think
additionally,
staff
don't
anticipate
that
the
pedestrian
will
see
a
tremendous
amount
through
that
glass.
This
is
a
north
east
facing
elevation
and
so
we'll
have
less
direct
sunlight.
I
think
earlier.
F
Concerns
regarding
the
replacement
of
the
original
early
wood
windows
have
been
addressed
now
through
Andre
Simon's
report,
and
the
application
now
proposes
a
really
great
program
for
the
windows.
So
upon
review
of
all
the
relevant
materials
and
comments
from
the
committee,
I
will
put
before
you
the
recommendation,
which
spans
three
pages.
A
Thank
you.
Alex
right
first
point
is
to
ask
the
committee
whether
there
are
comments
have
been
captured
in
the
heritage,
staffs
report
and,
in
my
case
I
think
they
have
happy
with
that
and
now
we
can
have
comments
from
questions
from
the
public
that
includes
the
applicants.
If
they
wish
to
do
so,
ok
and
then
we
I
think,
are
ready
for
any
recommendation
or
motion
to
put
the
recommendation
on
the
floor.
So
could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
recommendations,
Catherine
so
now
comments
from
the
committee.
B
Well,
I
really
like
this
design
when
we
saw
when
we,
when
we
have
the
site
visit
and
I
still
like
it,
I
really,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
I
think
the
curtain
walls
reflect
the
fact
that
usage
changes
over
time
and
that
rather
than
keep
on
aping,
what
you
think
would
look
like
the
original
to
actually
make
you
very
clear
that
this
was
done
in
2018-19
rather
than
you
know
wondering
when
it
was
done.
So
I
really
congratulate
the
the
applicant
and
the
architect
and
Andre
for
really.
B
A
Effort
and
investments
that
the
applicants
are
making
to
renew
this
very
important
property
and
we
look
forward
to
the
outcomes
and
hope
it
is
very
successful.
So
there
are
have
been
some
concerns
about
some
details,
but
I'm
also
impressed
with
the
way
staff
and
the
applicants
have
responded,
at
least
to
some
extent,
to
our
input
in
its
kind
of
a
pity
that
almost
the
only
significant
well,
it's
a
huge
project,
I
and
others
who
were
have
some
concerns.
Not
everybody
about
the
glass
addition
and
that's
always
a
well
that's.
A
A
There
are
different
viewpoints
and
some
people
think
yeah.
We
should
show
that
we're
no
longer
in
the
19th
century,
we're
in
this
century,
and
there
should
be
evidence
of
that,
and
the
architect
has
given
us
a
number
of
examples
of
substantial
glass
additions
to
heritage
buildings
and
some
of
them
some
people
might
say,
that's
great.
Some
people
may
say
well,
I'm,
not
sure,
that's
great,
but
it's
happened.
These
things
are
common
and
as
I
say,
there
are
no
rights
and
wrongs,
but
I
guess
what
this
committee
is
concerned
with.
A
Is
this
particular
application
and
not
try
to
say
that
what
has
been
done
at
RMC,
for
instance,
that
can
be
done
here.
In
this
case
we
have
guidelines
for
the
district
and
we
I
think
other
things
being
equal.
We
should
pay
attention
to
the
guidelines
and
to
me,
the
guidelines
don't
really
support
such
a
large,
extensive
glass
and
all
I
found
thee
to
me.
What
is
the
thing?
I
mean
this
this.
A
Cladding
and
what
it
says
is
that
it
says
cladding
on
a
new
addition
should
be
distinct
from
the
existing
and
that's
that's
what's
happened.
That's
there's
no
question
about
that.
That's
good
next
paragraph
says
acceptable.
Cladding
includes
brick,
stone,
wood,
clapper
painted
fiber
cement
board.
Stucco
shingles
glass
is
not
included
and
yeah.
Well,
maybe
you
know
that's.
That's
could
be
open
to
debate,
but
the
fact
to
in
my
mind
the
guidelines
do
not
support
the
use
of
glass
as
an
extensive
way
as
an
addition.
So
I
have
concerns,
but
you
know
I
again.
A
I'm
not
saying
it's
what's
being
proposed
is
wrong,
but
there
is
no
right
and
wrong.
This
is
a
case
where
the
community
is
supposed
to
provide
input
to
the
community
and
the
guidelines
are
supposed
to
guide
renovations
and
so
I
have
a
real
problem
supporting
the
recommendation,
even
though
I'm
enthusiastic
about
99%
of
there's
this
part
of
it
that
I'm
I
wish
it
weren't
there.
So
I
wish
there
were
an
alternative
but
again
I.
You
know
it's
not
terrible
a
lot
of
terrible
things.
Worse
things
gone
on
in
the
district
and
will
in
the
future.
A
So
it's
it's!
It's
a
borderline
call
in
my
case
so
but
I
think.
The
important
thing
is
that
there,
the
issue
is
in
the
open
and
the
these
comments
are
being
recorded
and
will
presumably
be
forwarded
to
Council
in
some
way
or
other.
So
that's
how
I
see
this
particular
issue,
and
so
I've
finished
with
my
comments.
So
this
year
you
can
and.
A
H
A
A
The
last
item,
which
is
a
notice
of
intention
to
demolish
a
barn
on
a
list
of
property
and
I,
should
say
this,
isn't
really
a
business
item
because
we're
not
going
to
debate
this.
This
is
a
prop,
but
just
so
people
know
this
is
a
property
in
the
country
that
is
is
listed
but
not
designated,
and
there
is
a
barn
on
the
property
which
is
I,
think
pretty
clearly
in
poor
condition,
and
so
the
owners
wish
to
demolish
it.
A
They
feel
it's
necessary
to
demolish
it,
and
it
appears
that
that
you
know
they
have
strong
evidence
for
that.
But
I
think
we
do
not
have
because
it's
not
designated,
we
don't.
We
don't
have
to
recommend
approval
of
the
demolition.
However,
this
committee
can
recommend
designation
of
the
property,
in
which
case
we
would
have
input
on
desert
demolition
of
the
barn.
A
A
E
D
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
the
the
limitations
under
the
Heritage
Act
for
a
property
that's
listed
is
pretty
minimal.
There's
a
lot
of
limitations.
We
cannot
impose
conditions
on
the
demo.
We
cannot
impose
conditions
on
our
recommendations
when
a
properties
gives
their
notice
of
intention
to
demo.
We
have
talked
to
the
owner,
we
have
photographed
the
building
and-
and
he
seems
pretty
open
to
doing
that
for
us,
so
we
would
follow
through
and
encourage
that
we
cannot
require
it
to
this
process.
Yeah.
E
That
was
actually
just
gonna,
be
my
my
comment
after
that.
I'm
really
pleased
that
we
do
have
with
this
really
good
evidence,
because
it
is
part
of
what
we
hope
for
at
least
if
something
is
going
down.
We
know
exactly
what
it
looked
like
how
it
was
constructed,
especially
since
he
says
he's
going
to
reuse
a
lot
of
the
material,
that's
really
in
couraging,
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
it
will
be
looked
at
as
a
designation
probability.
Thank
you
right.
A
A
There's
and
second
I
think
those
are
all
there's.
The
addendum
also
includes
an
emergency.
Oh
yes,
sorry
vote
on
the
motion
to
receive
the
working
group
report.
Thank
you
and
then
there's
an
update
regarding
emergency
approval.
There's
something
again
on
the
addendum
that
if
they're
any
questions
on
that,
you
can
raise
them.