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Heritage Kingston meeting from August 15, 2018. For the full meeting agenda visit http://bit.ly/2FYk7Nx
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B
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C
A
A
D
D
This
property
was
designated
under
part
four
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
in
2017,
and
it's
designating
by
law
and
notes
a
number
of
cultural
heritage,
IG
attributes
relating
to
the
Bryant
house,
which
include
its
gable
roof
with
a
brick
chimney
at
the
south
end
the
symmetrical
limestone
facade
its
window,
openings
with
stone
cells
and
voussoirs.
So
the
greenhouse
structure
that
is
proposed
for
demolition
is
not
included
as
a
hair
to
josh
beauty
of
the
property.
D
So
stop
visited
the
site
in
mid-july
to
view
the
greenhouse
structure
and
photographs
haven't
been
included
as
Exhibit
C
of
the
staff
report.
The
greenhouse
is
an
informal
and
haphazard
structure.
It's
constructed
with
a
cement
foundation
and
lower
walls,
a
wood
structure
which
is
then
clad
in
corrugated,
metal
sheets
and
plastic
panels.
It
doesn't
appear
to
have
been
used
for
quite
a
length
of
time.
It's
filled
with
a
lot
of
debris
and
odds
and
bits
and
bobs
of
garbage.
D
It's
not
clear
when
it
was
last
in
use
as
a
greenhouse
or
how
it
was
used
exactly
as
a
greenhouse,
and
it
is
minimally
visible
through
the
north
side
yard
of
the
property
from
Division
Street.
We
did
have
a
comment
from
one
of
our
members
and
that,
due
to
the
size,
the
greenhouse,
it's
possible
that
it
may
have
had
some
sort
of
a
commercial
function
at
some
point
and
that
would
be
worth
recording
of
photographically
before
its
demolition.
D
So
staff
have
included
a
condition
that,
on
the
day
of
demolition,
a
staff
member
will
be
present
to
document
and
photograph.
The
structure
so
upon
review
of
all
of
the
materials
staff.
Have
no
concerns
the
structures
not
listed
and
as
part
of
the
as
an
attribute
of
property,
and
as
such,
it
will
have
no
impact
on
the
cultural
heritage,
value
or
attributes
of
the
property,
and
so
I
have
a
recommendation
before
you
that
that
council
support
the
demolition
of
the
green
house
subject
to
the
following
three
conditions.
Thank
you.
A
E
You
mr.
chair
a
question
about
the
green
house,
when
it's
demolished,
I'm
really
glad
that
we're
to
document
the
structure,
so
it's
to
be
documented
as
it's
going
down
because
who
knows
might
be
limestone
walls
underneath
the
cement
or
something
so
this
becomes
like
a
legal
requirement.
It's
not
just
a
suggestion.
It's
a
legal
requirement
that
staff
be
available
there,
so
you
must
be
notified
I.
Take
it.
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F
F
It
was
designated
in
2013
under
part
4
of
the
Act.
It
has
associative
value
with
a
human
attire
and
Thomas
McFadden,
who
were
owners
of
the
house
house
is
a
house
or
the
history.
Those
knows
the
McIntyre
McFadden
house
built
in
the
1850
in
1850s
enlarged
about
20
years
later
it's
suffered
serious
fire
in
2002
and
was
rebuilt
in
2012-2013.
F
F
Yelling
at
everybody
is
the
siting
of
the
farmhouse
well
back
from
the
highway,
surrounded
by
open
fields,
which
we
maintain
that
real
character
of
the
area
so
before
you
today
is
an
application
to
do
extensive
landscaping
in
the
front
portion
of
the
property
between
the
road
than
the
and
house
itself.
That
includes
the
installation
of
to
limestone
entrance
peers
posts.
F
Planting
of
trees
along
the
road
and
along
the
driveway,
flagstone
and
paver
walkways
and
various
parts
of
the
yard,
as
well
as
flower,
pant
plantings
around
the
house
and
the
installation
of
a
slightly
larger
wooden
platform
porch
on
the
front
of
the
house.
So
in
terms
of
our
review,
we
also
considered
comments
that
were
received
from
members
of
the
Heritage
Committee
and,
and
we
note
that
the
applications
is
a
modest
landscaping
plan
and
are
compatible
with
the
Heritage
character
of
both
the
built
form
and
the
rural
character
of
the
area.
F
The
proposal
has
has
the
potential
to
enhance
the
Laurel
landscape
along
this,
this
corridor
group
in
Kingston
and
Gananoque
way
and
maintain
that
that
rural
characteristics,
so
that
was
circulated
to
our
our
usual
agency's
building,
permit
is
required
for
certain
aspects
of
this
proposal.
Our
engineering
staff
noted
that
this
area
is
slotted
for
road
widening
in
the
future
and
and
encouraged
the
applicants
to
set
back
their
gate
posts
in
order
to
ensure
that
they
could
remain
on
private
property.
F
Our
forestry
staff
noted
that
the
hydro
poles
run
along
the
front
of
this
property
to
ensure
proper
setback
from
the
trees
from
hydro,
poles
and
in
this
committee
was
circulated
through
for
this
application.
And
then
one
of
the
members
noted
provided
some
comments
which,
which
we've
addressed
in
our
in
the
report
and
mr.
chair
on,
saying
that
we
recommend
approval
of
this
application
with
a
couple
of
conditions
and
we're
happy
to
answer.
Questions.
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C
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E
A
Thanks
many
of
you
know
I
was
a
previous
owner
of
this
property,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
gives
me
a
conflict
in
any
way.
I'm,
certainly
pleased
that
the
owners
are
are
taking
good
care
of
it
and
have
plans.
I.
Think
the
the
only
slight
hint
that
I
would
make
is
that
planting
trees
is
good,
but
you
don't
want
to
hide
the
house,
you
don't
want
it
to
disappear,
so
the
trees
should
frame
the
house
and
not
hiding.
So
that's
I.
Think
that's
that's
understood.
A
A
D
All
right
so
94
bigot
street
we'd
have
an
application
for
alteration
under
section
42
of
the
Act,
so
94
Baggot
Street
is
located
on
the
northwest
side
of
the
street
near
the
intersection
with
West
Street.
The
subject
property
contains
a
two
and
a
half
story:
red
brick,
double
house,
the
other
half
team,
96
Vegas
Street,
constructed
circa
1859.
D
So
the
property
was
designated
as
part
of
the
old
system,
Heritage
Conservation
District
in
2015.
It
is
rated
as
significant
to
the
district
and
as
I
mentioned
previous,
it's
a
two
and
a
half
story
red
brick
house.
It
was
constructed
for
Patrick,
Hardy,
dry
goods,
merchants
in
the
area,
and
it
does
form
part
of
a
longer
row
of
buildings
that
formed
a
street
edge
along
Baggot
Street
within
all.
D
Did
them
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
property
inventory
evaluation
form
does
describe
the
previous
balcony
or
the
balcony
that
is
now
in
partial
existence,
previously
employed
distance
as
wood
with
iron
balustrade
containing
creaky
motives,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
the
intention
there
was
to
point
it
out
as
being
of
heritage
and
rest,
but
having
looked
at
it
closely,
it's
certainly
not
a
very
old
porch.
It
may
well
be
60s
70s,
but
it
was
in
very
poor
condition
and
it
has
partially
been
removed
for
health
and
safety
reasons
on
the
site.
D
So
the
application
before
you
basically
seeks
to
rehabilitate
a
front
elevation
of
94
baguette
to
accommodate
the
new
interior
arrangement.
Before
dwelling
units,
there
are
no
additional
dwellings
proposed
and
a
heritage
permit
application
for
the
removal
and
reconstruction
of
the
rear,
2-story
additions.
Property
was
previously
approved
in
May
of
2018.
D
So
I'm
just
gonna
go
over
a
few
of
the
key
elements,
as
I
understand
max,
also
going
to
speak
as
the
agent
for
this
proposal,
but
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
point
out
the
key
elements
which
are
the
reconstruction
of
the
frontcourt.
So
the
third
and
second
and
third
story
elements
of
the
ports
have
been
removed,
but
that
cement
porch
base
is
being
retained
and
repaired
and
on
to
that
will
be
built.
D
Also
worth
going
to
note
is
the
front
door
existing
panel
and
transom
have
been
removed
due
to
their
deterioration
and
again
through
discussions,
we've
moved
towards
doing
a
restoration
of
that
front,
entranceway
based
on
96
Baggot
Street,
which
is
identical.
So
it's
one
of
those
rare
instances
where
we
can
do
a
true
restoration,
with
an
exact,
perfect
example
of
what
we
need
to
reconstruct
in
terms
of
the
windows
they
all
comply
with.
The
city's
policy
on
window
renovations,
they
are
going
to
be.
D
The
existing
wood
frames
are
going
to
be
maintained
with
the
new
aluminum
clad
windows
being
inserted
within,
and
that
was
one
comment
that
we
did
have
from
our
members,
so
that
can
be
confirmed
and
otherwise
it's
all
small
repair
work
to
the
bricks
and
to
the
decorative
brackets
at
the
third
story.
Eve
and
in
terms
of
comments
from
our
committee,
it
was
really
simply
just
the
idea
that
the
restoration
of
that
door
should
be
based
on
96
baguette.
D
We
should
be
using
wood
materials
on
the
porch
and
all
of
that
has
been
agreed
to
with
the
owner.
So
as
of
now,
the
staff
staff
have
no
concerns
at
the
project
and
we
support
it
and
I'm
gonna
put
the
recommendation
before
you,
which
is
that
the
alterations
at
94,
beggin
Street,
are
approved
with
the
details
in
the
application
subject
to
several
Commission's
before
you,
which
include
that
heritage
staff
will
be
circulated,
the
building
permit
drawings
that
we
can
sure
conforming
with
what
is
proposed
within
the
heritage
permit.
A
A
C
C
It'll
definitely
do
it
in
and
like
materials
and
in
keep
and
duplicate
the
existing
openings.
You
can
see
from
the
initial
drawing
the
the
porch
was
a
three
story,
but
there
never
was
a
door
owed
on
the
third
story,
just
a
window,
so
we've
gone
back
to
what
probably
was
a
was
a
two-story
porch.
Originally
so
I
don't
think
I've
got
anything
more
to
add.
You
know
the
owner
spent
a
lot
of
money
in
the
place
he
wants
to
do
it
right
and
he's.
You
know
trying
to
go
first,
her.
G
Thank
mr.
chair,
thank
you
for
presentation
and
thanks
to
Marcus
wall
for
his
information.
I
think
this
is
a
vast
improvement.
It
only
looks
much
better
that
it's
social,
cheaper
and
I
just
want
to
get
out
a
little
bit
more
on
the
window,
that's
under
the
porch,
so
that
looks
better
and
you're.
Also
we
could
be
creating
more
speech
down
there
right
the
photo
of
way.
It
looks
now
looks
like
it's
just
a
solid,
concrete
block
porch.
A
H
Agree:
it's
a
great
improvement
over
the
pass.
It
looks
beautiful,
just
walking
around
Kingston.
You
see
a
lot
of
instances
where
the
brickwork
has
been
repaired,
her
replacement
bricks
and
so
on
in
them
and
just
to
to
I
guess
suggest
that
a
great
attention
be
paid,
the
color
of
the
mortar
and
so
on,
when
these
repairs
are
being
done,
because
this
is
you
know,
I
mean,
although
the
the
support
the
original
porch
there
was
an
eyesore.
In
fact,
when
you
look
at
the
brickwork,
the
brickwork
is
beautiful.
H
I
A
Are
comments
from
members
of
the
committee
all
right,
I
think
that's
fine!
You
know.
As
staff
have
commented,
this
application
has
evolved
in
quite
a
satisfactory
way
with
input
from
Erica
staffing,
the
committee
and
I
think
it's
certainly
a
great
improvement
they're,
so
ready
for
the
to
vote
on
the
motion
to
recommend
approval
to
council
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mac.
A
D
We
have
an
application
under
section
42
of
the
act
for
alteration
and
demolition.
The
subject
property
to
86
Johnson
Street
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
east
of
Berry
Street
and
opposite
st.
Mary's
Cathedral.
The
subject
property
contains
a
terminate,
the
terminating
two-story
brick
residence
of
the
Wesley
Terrace,
which
was
constructed
in
1875
and
stretches
from
270
to
Johnson
Street,
all
the
way
to
tweenie
86
Johnson
Street.
D
The
property
is
designated
under
both
part
four
of
the
Act,
which
was
in
1975
and
again
under
part
five
of
the
act
as
part
of
the
old
Sydenham
Heritage
Conservation
District.
The
property
was
designed
by
William,
Coverdale
and
constructed
in
1856,
and
the
district
plan
identifies
it
as
being
significant
to
the
district.
D
The
property
evaluation
form
describes
the
Wesley
Terrace
as
a
distinguished
distinguished
address
directly
across
from
a
Cathedral,
the
extended
repetition
of
classical
elements:
semicircular
arched
door,
openings
window
openings,
louvered,
shutters
parapet
sight
Gables
with
Jim's
that
the
gable
peak
sandstone
corbels
that
the
use,
as
well
as
the
excellent
sense
of
proportion
between
a
three
Bay's
on
each
story,
make
for
an
extremely
satisfying
composition.
I
would
agree.
D
So
the
proposal
includes
the
demolition
and
rebuilding
of
that
the
rear
kitchen,
which
is
at
the
ground
floor.
We
are
there,
as
well
as
the
replacement
of
all
the
windows
on
the
South
elevation.
So
all
the
windows
on
that
kitchen,
nook
that
infill
Edition
at
the
center,
as
well
as
all
the
windows
on
the
historic
building
all
facing
south.
D
D
Additionally,
this
renovation
is
largely
invisible,
if
not
invisible
from
public
view,
you
can't
see
it
from
Barry
Street
nor
from
the
lane
behind.
So
really,
the
only
views
are
from
the
rear
of
this
of
this
house.
So,
in
terms
of
the
replacement
of
all
the
windows
stuff
do
acknowledge
that
the
replacement
windows
are
white,
vinyl
units
and
either
casement
or
vertical
sliding
sash
as
they're
replacing
the
windows.
Essentially,
the
design
in
form
of
the
windows
like
for,
like
they
do
not
comply
with
the
policy
on
window
renovations
and
or
buildings
or
with
the
section.
D
Five
point
three
point:
two
of
the
district
plan.
However,
given
that
the
proposed
windows
are
replacing
non
original
non
windows,
the
majority
of
which
are
already
vinyl
units
stuff,
do
you
feel
that
the
replacement
of
these
windows
will
have
little
to
no
impact
on
the
character
of
the
district
staff?
Have
advised
the
applicant
of
our
concerns
regarding
vinyl,
just
in
terms
of
longevity
sustainability,
as
well
as
their
appearance,
and
have
encouraged
the
use
of
a
tinted,
color
vinyl
unit
to
soften
their
appearance?
D
So,
in
conclusion,
staff
doog
knowledge
that
there
are
several
components
of
this
application
that
do
not
conform
to
the
district
plans.
However,
all
these
components
relate
to
alterations
on
the
rear
elevation,
the
set
which
is
not
visible
from
Johnson
Street,
Berry,
Street
or
the
lane
way
to
the
rear.
D
So
in
terms
of
comments
from
our
members
we
did,
we
did
receive
comments
from
a
couple
members
with
regards
to
the
proposed
proposed
vinyl
windows,
raising
the
issue
of
longevity
sustainability
and
how
they
appear
on
a
heritage
property
and
also
there
was
questions
about
the
vinyl
material
proposed
as
siding
on
the
rear
kitchen,
nook
and
I
did
have
some
confirmation
from
the
applicant
that
the
simulated
wood
product
on
the
rear
kitchen
nook
is
actually
a
composite
wood
material.
That
is
then
have
some
sort
of
a
polymer
coating
on
it.
D
So
we
have
included
condition
to
see
samples
of
this
material
and
confirm
that
it
is
acceptable
as
well
to
confirm
that
the
vinyl,
obviously
we
know,
there's
a
variety
of
vinyl
window
units,
and
so
we
fast
for
condition
to
include
details
of
those
windows.
So
the
recommendation
before
you
is
to
approve
the
alterations
at
26,
Johnson,
Street,
subject
to
the
following
conditions.
Thank
you.
A
J
K
J
In
ten
years
the
owners
will
be
back
to
replace
the
vinyl
windows.
We
could
argue
this
at
this
committee
so
often
and
so
much
and
yes,
they
will
always
come
up
with
the
arguments
that
well
they're
out
of
sight,
but
they
may
be
today,
but
we
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
that
property,
a
lot
of
people
use
those
back
alleyways
and
look
into
those
buildings
and
in
a
building
and
an
area
of
this
heritage
importance.
I
would
hope
that
you
would
have
serious
concerns
about
approving
anything.
That
is
final.
Thank
you.
A
C
Couple
of
questions
on
one
word
says:
a
new
low
slope,
low
pitch
black
out
felt
shingles
trans
far
as
I
know,
they
haven't
made
those
for
about
15
or
20
years.
If
they
were
going
to
use
black
shingles.
That's
it's
a
little
pitch.
Roof
they'd
have
to
just
have
to
use
ice
and
water
shield
or
something
underneath
it
or
do
a
I.
Do
like
a
two
ply:
modified
bitumen
roof
honored,
the
I.
C
Don't
I,
don't
believe
he
get
little
slope
shingles
anymore,
I
haven't
seen
them
forever,
anyways
and
I
guess
I've
got
concerned
also,
but
what
the
simulated
vertical
wood
cladding
is
bit
bit
the
staff
say
they're
going
to
check
on
that
before
they
approve
it
to
be
installed.
I
see
all
the
windows
in
the
back
her
casement
windows.
All
the
proposed
new
windows
are
casement
windows,
I
believe
the
two
windows
and
the
actual
limestone.
On
the
second
floor.
Are
they
going
to
stay
as
double
long.
C
So
the
those
to
replace,
when
does
the
other
side?
Yes,
the
other
stays
up.
Long.
Sorry
excuse
me.
Okay
and
and
I
definitely
have
concerns
of
what
vinyl
I
think.
A
good
alternative
to
vinyl
is
a
Marvin
integrity
window,
which
is
a
which
the
fiberglass
window,
which
does
stand
up
and
lasts
as
long
as
virtually
any
window
and
it's
not
as
expensive
as
the
metal,
clad
ones,
but
it's
more
expensive
than
vinyl
windows.
But
it
has
very
nice
details
as
well.
C
E
Even
what
Mac
was
talking
about
with
the
fiberglass,
which
I
like
very
much.
Thank
you
because
it
it
improves.
The
value
of
your
home.
Vinyl
is
not
going
to
give
you
back
the
value
that
the
home
could
give
you
in
a
modern
home
shirt.
It's
the
plastic
type
things
it
doesn't
make
much
difference,
but
boy
in
a
heritage
property.
It
makes
a
huge
difference
in
terms
of
the
value,
especially
for
resale.
E
So
it's
more
for
me
an
economic
thought
that
it's
it's
preferable
to
spend
the
money
ahead
on
the
type
of
finish
that
is
going
to
make
your
house
as
valuable
as
it
can
be
so
I
agree
about
the
vinyl
I
realized.
Nobody
can
see
it,
but
in
the
long
run,
if
you
want
to
sell
it
and
somebody's
looking
around
and
they
know
what
it
could
be,
you're
you're,
reducing
the
value
of
your
property
thanks.
A
A
Does
no
longer
allow
this
committee
to
make
recommendations
on
alterations
in
this
district.
This
plan
is
really
the
you
know
really
important
in
guiding
renovations.
So
let
me
just
I
just
looked
up
a
few
quotations
from
the
plan
section
5.3
point
to
avoid
use
of
white
vinyl
windows,
it
doesn't
say:
white
vinyl
windows
should
be
avoided.
It
says
avoid
533,
vinyl
and
aluminum.
Siding
are
not
acceptable,
claddings
for
a
new
addition,
we're
not
talking
about
something,
that's
visible
or
not.
Section.
A
Six
point:
two:
seven
which
refers
to
new
construction,
acceptable,
cladding
materials
include,
there's
a
list
of
which
vinyl
is
not
well
includes
things
like
brick
and
stone
and
stucco
and
so
on.
It
also
includes
I,
think
cement
board
type
site
in
which
we've
come
across
before
I'm,
not
sure
whether
that
is
or
could
be,
what
the
applicants
have
in
mind.
What
they
say
is
simulated
wood
and
there
could
be
other
products
that
are
equally
good
and
may
not
be
actually
cement,
but
I.
A
So
everybody
in
the
district
understands
that
we're
trying
to
maintain
a
certain
quality
of
environment
and
that's
why
they
say:
no
vinyl,
that's
why
they
say
no
other
things
so
I'm
going
to
vote
against
this
recommendation
and
I
hope
other
committee
members
will
think
carefully
about
it
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
Are
we
ready
for
the
motion
then
motion
to
approve
the
recommendation?
I
should
say
that
this
recommendation,
whether
we
approve
it
or
not,
can
go
to
Council
or
staff
can
modify
it
if
they
wish.
We
can't
we.
We
do
not
have
the
power
to
stop
this
motion
going
to
council,
but
when
it
goes
to
council,
my
understanding
is,
there
will
be
a
statement.
It'll
be
recognized
that
the
committee
has
made
a
statement
about
their
views
on
me
on
the
application,
so
I
think
it's
important.
L
A
A
F
F
So
this
property
again
as
I
mentioned,
was
built
in
the
1970s.
It
is
rated
as
a
non
heritage
building
in
the
district,
however,
the
property
itself
in
the
building
reflects
some
of
the
the
goals
and
and
heritage
attributes
of
the
district
itself,
which
are
outlined
here,
including
some
of
the
historic
views
down
this
down
the
street
and
the
siting
on
top
of
the
escarpment,
as
well
as
the
the
scale
in
massing
of
the
building
itself.
So
this
is
the
site
plan.
F
The
applicants
are
proposing
are
requesting
heritage
approval
to
construct
a
one-story
six
and
a
half
meter
by
six
and
a
half
meter
detached
garage
which
you
can
see
on
the
plan
is
off
to
the
south.
North
is
to
the
right
of
your
screen.
This
is
the
garage
that
was
approved
about
a
year
ago
at
the
north
end
of
the
property,
so
the
garage
itself
is
to
be
two
bays
and
clad
in
pre
stained
cedar
shingles.
F
In
a
light
gray
color,
the
roofing
is
to
be
cedar,
shakes
both
of
these
match
with
the
existing
house,
which
is
similar
shades.
The
plan
before
you
was
initially
submitted
with
a
covered
breezeway
that
was
to
attach
this
building
to
the
house.
It
was
noted
that
this
was
in
conflict
with
the
billet
village
plan
and
the
applicants
have
have
agreed
to
remove
that
from
the
plan
or
from
the
their
proposal.
So
this
is
a
close-up
of
the
the
building
that's
proposed
with
the
cedar
shingles
and
the
pitch
roof.
F
In
terms
of
our
review,
the
proposed
garage
was
reviewed
against
the
policies
of
the
district
plan
and
it
Amit's
the
intent
of
the
very
field
Heritage
Conservation
District,
planned
policies
with
respect
to
its
location,
the
materials
chosen,
the
window
and
roof
design
and
the
relationship
to
the
main
house.
We
support
this
application
and
we
submitted
it
or
we
circulated
it
to
the
usual
agency's
building
staff,
of
course
note
that
a
building
permit
is
required,
and
then
the
planning
team
noted
no
concerns
with
the
zoning
in
this
area.
A
A
C
C
H
Disick's
Jen
page
92
and
the
consultation
with
heritage
Kingston.
It
says
the
applicant
has
confirmed
that
the
detent
sorry
staff
have
confirmed
the
location
of
the
existing
attached
garage
on
the
south
end
of
the
building,
but
I
don't
see
where
there
was
in
any
of
the
photographs,
and
so
on
that
there
was
an
attached
garage
on
the
south
end
of
the
building.
F
A
A
A
F
Almost
it's
right
across
the
street
we
just
looked
at.
It
is
a
part
5.
Doesn't
it
property
in
the
very
field
district
and
it's
on
the
east
side
of
Main
Street.
We
all
know
the
the
landmark
church
heritage
attributed
the
district
st.
marks.
It's
a
Gothic
Revival
church
built
in
the
1840s.
It's
actually
listed
as
an
attribute
in
the
district
itself
and
its
location
on
the
high
point
of
the
land.
So
what
is
before
you
today
is
an
application
to
construct
a
barrier-free
access,
newberry
free
access
into
the
church.
F
The
alterations
include
new
front
steps
to
alterations
to
the
chest,
steps
to
hear
the
construction
of
a
new
ramp
on
the
south
side
of
the
building,
with
concrete
planters
to
help
screen
the
to
help
screen
the
ramp,
as
well
as
to
bear
free
parking
spaces
along
the
south
side
of
the
building
and
the
construction
of
a
metal
handrail
painted
gray
and
the
new
wood
threshold
is
to
be
added
to
level
the
entrance
into
the
church
itself
and
there's
some
minor
wood
and
masonry
repairs,
as
well
as
automatic
door.
Openers
are
proposed.
F
So,
in
terms
of
our
analysis,
the
the
landmark
as
a
landmark
and
a
heritage
after
the
district,
the
alterations
of
course
to
this
church,
are
need
to
be
carefully
considered.
But,
as
equally
important
is
the
consideration
of
providing
didn't
dignified,
an
easy
access
into
the
building
for
those
with
mobility
challenges.
So
the
current
barrier,
free
ramp,
if
you
ever
been
to
the
church,
is
on
the
north
side
of
this
building.
F
It's
a
narrow
metal
ramp,
built
over
tired
over
top
of
an
existing
concrete
porch
and
and
it's
it's
difficult
to
access
and
as
a
sharp
it
enters
into
a
sitting
area
off
the
main
sanctuary,
with
a
sharp
u-turn
to
get
into
the
actual
sanctuary
itself.
So
it's
it
is
difficult,
challenging
and
and
needs
to
be
replaced.
So
the
Barry
coke
plant
itself
has
policies
section
49
of
the
plan
that
pertained
to
accessibility,
alterations
and
the
needs
of,
as
well
as
conserving
the
heritage
value
of
the
district
and
these
policies.
F
Similarly,
Parks
Canada
standards
and
guidelines
include
accessibility,
recommendations
and
policies
in
their
in
their
document,
namely
that
respecting
the
location
of
existing
entrances
and
porches,
when
providing
new
ramps
and
exploring
all
options
for
modifications
to
existing
porches
is
better,
of
course,
then
passing
new
entrances
into
the
into
a
heritage
resource.
So
we
reviewed
these.
The
application
was
submitted
with
detailed
plans
by
coal-burning
Campbell
architects,
as
well
as
a
heritage
impact
statement
by
Andre
Shimon,
and
they
note
that
they've
explored
a
number
of
options
before
they
came
to
this
proposal
and
found.
F
This
was
the
least
impactful
and
a
most
successful
way
of
providing
dignified
and
very
free
access
into
the
church
itself,
and
and
therefore
we
based
on
our
review,
have
are
supporting
this
application.
We
did
circulate,
of
course,
and
our
building
staff
note
that
a
permit
is
required
for
this.
They
do
note
that
a
tactile
strip
or
attention
indicator
is
required
at
the
base
of
the
the
ramp
board
meets
the
parking
lot.
F
This
will
be
I,
won't
impact
the
Heritage
value
of
the
other
property,
be
minimal
fire
and
rescued
note
that
they
need
the
app-v
needs
to
ensure
continued
fire
access
to
the
building
and
Kingston
hydro
notes
that
there
are
some
underground
electrical
services
in
this
area
and
they
need
to
be
located
before
they
start
digging,
so
those
have
been
provided
to
the
applicant
and
they
will
be
addressed
through
building
permit,
and
this
committee
was
circulated
on
this
application,
noting
no
concerns
and
it
was
chaired.
The
motion
is
before
you
and
we
recommend
a
pool.
J
K
G
A
J
No
I
would
really
echo
that
legislation
came
in
about
1213
years
ago
saying
that
all
public
buildings
had
to
be
accessible.
It
really
produced
some
difficult
situations,
mostly
because
there
was
just
no
space
around
some
buildings.
I
believe
there
are
two
churches
in
Harris
Smith,
where
the
ramps
start
on
the
other
church
and
cross
in
the
middle
st.
Mark's
has
the
odd
situation
of
being
high,
and
the
design
here
is
beautifully
done.
J
I
think
I
hope
you
will
also
read
the
arguments
for
why
the
architects
did
not
choose
the
other
two
options,
because
they
will
be
important
in
future
applications
to
remember
what
can
go
wrong.
It's
so
easy
to
say:
oh
well,
all
you
do
is
put
a
ramp
and
it
isn't
at
all
if
you've
gone
through
that
process.
So
congratulations
on
getting
this
application
now
hope
you
can
approve
it.
A
Questions
from
the
committee
committee
members
are
very
happy.
I
think
it
appears
that
the
architects
and
heritage
staff
have
done
a
good
job
and
they're
always.
You
know
it's
always
somewhat
regrettable
to
make
changes
of
this
nature,
but
they
are
necessary-
and
this
has
been
so
ready
for
the
votes
to
approve
the
alterations
at
st.
Mark's
Church.
All
those
in
favor
post.
A
F
A
F
So
what
is
before
you
today
is
an
application
under
section,
33
of
the
Act
and
I
should
clarify
that
the
the
designations
under
part
5
of
the
heritage,
which
is
the
Heritage
District,
the
Market
Square
district,
apply
to
the
exterior
only
so
this
application
before
you
is
for
interior
alterations
exclusively
and
and
therefore
the
poro
see
the
procedures
and
policies
of
the
district
plan
and
the
procedures
under
part.
5
do
not
apply
in
this
case,
so
this
is
treated
as
a
part.
F
F
Some
of
interest
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
in
this
presentation
had
to
do
with
what
some
of
these
rooms
here
I
think
the
most
some
of
the
most
challenging
parts
of
this
project
have
to
do
with
the
main
floor
corridor.
On
the
first
floor
of
this
building,
which
is
the
picture
up
on
the
top
left
on
your
screen.
Yeah.
There
are
a
number
of
unknowns
in
this
project,
including
what
lies
beneath
the
ceiling
above
the
ceiling
in
that
area
beneath
the
floor
above
it.
F
So,
in
the
worst
case
scenario
of
the
two-inch
line
for
the
water
suppression
system,
the
fire
suppression
system
would
have
to
be
outside
of
that
ceiling.
So
we
have.
We
had
a
site
meeting
back
in
the
13th
of
July
with
a
number
of
members
of
this
committee
and
a
project
manager.
Mr.
Apple
walked
us
around
the
building.
F
This
area
they
are
are
attempting
to
if
they
cannot
put
the
lines
in
side
of
the
ceiling
to
have
them
painted
to
match
the
surroundings,
the
ceiling
in
the
and
the
cornice,
and
to
have
them
designed
so
that
they
fit
into
this.
The
the
detailing
around
the
detailing,
as
best
they
can
to
be
as
discreet
as
as
possible,
the
other
one
of
the
other
challenging
rooms
is
the
Victoria
Library,
which
is
the
the
clock
room.
The
round
room
that
you
see
in
the
top
right
on
your
screen.
F
As
there
are
a
number
of
unknown
factors
in
this
project,
including
designated
substances,
space
and
separation,
Jane's
staff
have
included
in
our
recommendation
that
any
minor
deviations
from
the
submitted
plans
which
meet
the
intent
of
the
overall
approval
and
and
identified
Herod's
attributes
as
described,
be
delegated
to
the
director
of
planning
for
review
and
approval
as
necessary.
The
applicant
and
the
consultants
have
reviewed
the
Heritage
character
and
existing
conditions
of
this
building
in
detail,
as
you
can
tell
by
the
other
plans
and
have
prepared
this
dissident
of
it.
F
Their
intervention
plans
to
take
these
elements
into
consideration
in
accordance
with
standard
7
of
the
federal
standards
and
guidelines,
the
parks
in
Canada's
and
an
upon
review
of
all
the
submitted
materials
staff
have
are
supporting
this
application.
With
a
number
of
conditions
we
did
circulate.
This
application
building
permit
is
required.
The
environment,
team
notes,
proper
designated
substances,
assessment
and
management
is
required
in
Kingston.
Hydro
is
willing
to
work
for
to
get
access
to
the
electrical
volt,
and
this
was
circulated
to
members
of
this
committee
and
no
concerns
were
expressed.
So
mr.
F
A
A
A
Oh
sorry,
sorry
confusion
there
we'll
carry
on
this
application
and
there
was
confusion
about
whether
this
application
should
be
dealt
with
according
to
part
4
part
5
procedures,
but
I
think
we've
agreed
that
it's
part
4,
because
it's
entirely
interior
and
part
5
guidelines
do
not
apply
to
interiors
of
buildings,
but
they
are.
The
interior
of
this
building
is
covered
well
covered
by
part
4
designation.
So
the
next
step,
then,
is
to
ask
whether
members
of
the
committee
have
questions
of
staff
or
agents
about
the
application
relating
to
sprinklers
and
arms
installations.
A
Perhaps
I'll
ask
one
I
sort
of
tried
to
understand
all
the
drawings
but
they're
a
bit
difficult,
but
I
understand
that
the
regulations
require
in
a
room
like
this.
There
has
to
be
so
many
fire
sprinklers
and
so
on
and
has
to
come
and
looking
at
the
drawings.
There
seemed
to
be
many.
Many
fire
alarms.
I
wasn't
exactly
sure
how
many
fire
alarms
are
required
and
and
what
you
know,
what
the
what
the
situation
is.
There
can
be
anyone's
explaining
that
to
me.
I'm.
F
M
With
regards
to
the
number
of
fire
lamp
devices
that
you
need,
they're
all
regulated
by
a
standard,
UL
cs5
20,
for
the
reason
that
you
might
find
that
there's
there's
several
more
than
the
two
bells
you
currently
have
is
the
addition
of
the
voice
communication
system
that
we're
adding
to
this
building.
In
order
for
us
to
meet
the
audibility
levels
required
by
the
building
code,
we
have
to
add
a
number
of
such
devices.
M
So
when
they're
they're
pre
calculated
it's
to
achieve
the
proper
audibility,
it's
one
thing
to
broadcast
a
sound
and
make
sure
everybody
hears
the
sound.
It's
another
thing
to
broadcast
a
voice
message
and
have
everybody
understand
it
properly.
We've
all
been
in
places,
shopping
malls
or
things
like
that,
where
a
message
will
come
through
a
paging
system
and
we
sit
and
we
wonder
what
was
said
exactly
because
it
wasn't
intelligible
by
adding.
Excuse
me
a
number
of
these
devices.
M
A
Fine
I
understand
any
sort
of
traditional
understanding
that
there
was
a
one,
big
fire
alarm
and
the
whole
building
heard
it,
and
now
things
are
a
little
different
and
I
guess.
That's
that's
a
good
thing.
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
questions
for
staff
on
the
installation
of
fire
alarm
and
sprinklers
I
had
a
comment
that
I
just
sort
of
tossed
around
a
little
bit
that
if
you
look
at
the
recommendation,
sorry
maybe
I'm
getting
ahead
of
myself.
G
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
so
honestly,
something
obvious
but
I
want
to
get
it
on
the
record,
because
the
buildings
in
a
sting
operation,
while
the
the
renovations
are
going
on
right.
It's
not
going
to
be
like
the
Central
Library
branch
that
they
closed
down
for
two
years
and
it's
not
an
operation
while
they're
doing
the
renovations,
so
the
systems
that
we
have
in
place
now
they're
gonna
stay
operational
while
the
new
systems
are
being
put
in
right.
So
there's
issues
around
that.
G
There's
a
lot
of
care
and
pre
consideration
and
that
kind
of
thing
that's
needed,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
being
dealt
with
and
then
I've
got
two
additional
points
around
the
general
theme,
I'm
greatly
to
fear
for
the
project.
I
think
it's
much
needed.
We've
got
a
you
know,
mid
19th
century
building
here
great
heritage
value,
but
it's
also
a
functioning
building,
that's
busy
place
and
while
you're
updating
the
tectum
bilities
of
building.
G
G
It'd
be
wonderful
to
have
a
little
simple
tact
device
at
the
front
desk.
Saying
counsel,
mediate
council
chambers
at
7:30,
or
this
committee
meeting
is
over
there
in
this
room
at
this
time,
simple
and
obvious
that
we
don't
have
it
so
it
might
be
outside
the
scope
of
the
project
that's
currently
defined,
but.
K
G
I
Address
that
Jeff
Rumple
yeah,
the
building
will
be
occupied.
While
the
improvements
are
made,
the
system
will
be
fully
functional
while
the
improvements
are
made.
So
as
we
bring
what
the
new
system
on
board
the
old
system
will
be
in
place
and
then
the
activation
will
just
be
switched
over.
We
know
that
this
building
will
be
occupied.
It's
used,
it's
booked,
it's
great
heritage
resource.
We
recognize
that
so
it'll
be
phased
extensively
to
not
interrupt
as
much
as
possible.
A
A
A
Don't
suppose
this
is
really
necessary,
but,
looking
at
it
seemed
appropriate
to
me
that
it
should
start
out
with
a
recommendation,
as
is
recognized
in
the
report,
really
recommendation.
Sorry
condition
one
might
be
where
practicable
all
piping
for
the
alarm
and
suppression
system
shall
be
located
in
concealed
spaces.
That's
the
understanding
of
the
whole
project
that
this
should
be
done,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
it'd
be
good
practice
to
have
that
clear
in
the
recommendations
so
somewhere
along
the
line,
if
contractor
says
well,
it'll
be
easier
to
leave
it
exposed
and
try
to
hide.
A
A
Think
I
suppose
I
wish
as
I
need
to
it's
a
kind
of
a
motherhood
statement
if
you
like,
but
as
I
say
somewhere
down
the
line,
the
situation
there
arise
where
there's
a
temptation
to
take
the
easy
route
to
solving
problems
and
I
think
the
committee
should
make
its
preference
clear.
So
that's
that's
my
view.
Take
back.
C
F
E
A
So
we
have
the
recommendation
as
amended.
Are
there
any
further
comments?
Questions
then
ready
for
the
motion
to
approve
the
recommendation
as
amended
all
those
in
favor
opposed.
Thank
you.
So
that's
carried
right.
The
the
last
business
is
a
pre
consultation
again
relating
to
City
Hall,
this
time
to
the
condition
of
the
limestone
steps
on
the
Ontario
Street.
D
Thanks
mr.
chair
I
just
want
to
introduce
Rob
Crothers
who's,
one
of
the
project
managers
with
with
facilities,
management
and
construction
services,
so
he's
here
today,
because
they
would
like
to
do
a
pre
consultation
with
the
committee
with
regards
to
the
north
and
south
exit
steps
at
the
front
of
city
hall.
And
the
intention
here
is
to
give
you
a
sense
of
where
they're
at
with
the
type
of
preventive
measure
that
they
would
like
to
to
apply
until
such
time
as
the
stairs
will
be
fully
reconstructed.
So
here's
Rob.
L
L
The
last
I
guess
what
we're
recommending
is
a
protocol
called
mg
Crete
by
M
Co
technologies,
which
was
used
on
the
central
steps
in
the
area
circled
in
red.
Those
were
where
marks
and
divots
and
if
you
could
go
and
take
a
look
at
them
outside
now
they
have
been
leveled
off.
They
still
look
like
patches,
but
it's
much
safer.
L
Subsequently,
we've
learned
that
we
can
use
iron
oxide
to
tint
the
color.
These
steps
are
not
limestone,
they're
granite,
so
it's
a
slightly
different
situation,
but
we
can.
We
will
be
able
to
tint
the
color
too
to
get
to
the
limestone
color
and
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
do
a
test
patch.
So,
at
the
end
of
all
this,
we
really
want
to
see
whether
this
stuff
is
going
to
work
and
whether
we
can
make
it
look
well.
L
L
These
stairs
are
interesting
because
they
are
different.
You
can
see
the
difference
in
stone
for
the
steps
versus
the
sidewall
and
that
they
are
founded
on
a
concrete
beveled
slab
that
you
can
see
in
the
basement
near
the
Sholto
room,
and
so
that's
all
concrete
and
that's
completely
different
from
what
the
exit
steps
are
constructed
of.
They
are
supported
on
a
limestone
arch.
This
is
the
traditional
construction
in
a
crawlspace
chamber,
which
is
at
this
time
of
year,
very
humid
and
dank
and
has
an
odor
of
mold.
L
It's
not
used
for
anything
and
they're
kept
closed,
but
in
the
winter
time
or
in
a
rainstorm
it's
a
waterfall.
It
really
does
seep
through
the
construction.
It's
it
starts
on
the
cracked
stones
on
the
treads,
all
the
joints
that
were
filled
with
heritage
mix
more
mortar
two
years
in
a
row,
the
most
recent
one
is
last
year
and
that
just
doesn't
it
doesn't
work
for
the
the
the
need
to
have
the
steps
cleared,
the
guys
don't
use
straight
salt.
L
L
So
this
is
the
one
I
guess
this
is
the
North
End
archway,
and
this
is
the
South
End
archway
those
rooms
get
filled
with
water
and
it
pours
down
the
steps
and
our
maintenance
team
has
to
wet-vac
this
up
and
during
one
of
the
spring
storms
that
we
had
they
just
plugged
it
in
and
dammed
everything
and
it
just
it
went
all
day.
So
it's
becoming
a
real
problem,
it's
very
difficult
to
say
whether
or
not
those
arches
are
still
stable.
There
are
certainly
a
crack
and
the
one
to
the
north.
L
So,
on
the
north
end,
looking
up
the
steps
and
it's
it's
a
good
idea
to
go
ahead
and
take
a
close
look
at
them,
because
there
are
new
stones
on
there
like
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
railing,
and
there
are
cracked
stones
right
up
on
top
of
the
set
of
stairs
and
all
the
way
down
all
the
steps
you
can
see
what's
happening
over
time
to
limestone,
as
you
probably
are,
very
well
worked
what
can
happen
and
then,
of
course,
even
on
the
side,
buttresses
side
railings,
the
the
joints.
There
are
a
problem.
L
We
found
that
the
heritage
mortar
mix
works
pretty
well
on
vertical
joints,
but
not
on
horizontal
ones
at
all.
So
there's
one
new
stone
that
was
put
it
I'm,
not
actually
sure
when
it
was
put
in,
but
up
to
the
right,
you
could
see
a
diagonal
crack
in
another
one.
The
joints
are
all
losing
their
their
mortar.
These
were
raked
out
to
two
and
a
half
inches
deep
and
filled
with
with
mortar
last
fall.
L
Certainly
in
the
spring
it
was.
It
was
very
embarrassing
to
go
out
there
and
see
all
the
stuff
that
was
had
come
out
of
the
the
joints
and
even
on
the
stone,
the
top
right.
You
can
see
her
horizontal
crack.
So
we've
thought
a
lot
about
how
we
can
save
these
stones
and
in
fact
it
is
not
going
to
be
really
very
possible
because
you
wouldn't
want
to
put
something
like
that
back
in
the
Southside
is
probably
more
deteriorated.
L
Some
of
these
slides
may
be
a
little
bit
mixed
up,
because
when
you
there's
so
many
situations
that
it's
not
it's
easy
to
get
confused,
but
again
the
same
sort
of
thing
is
happening
and
even
the
steel
stairs
need
to
be.
The
supports
need
to
be
redone.
In
order
to
make
this
work,
we've
looked
at
just
leaving
the
central
route
open
and
just
fixing
it,
but
in
fact
we
need
to
have
water
proof.
The
whole
thing
that's
a
slab
just
up
side
at
the
top
outside
the
exit
door
and
even
right
there,
all
those
cracks.
L
L
So
that's
what
the
solution
on
the
central
stair
looks
like
it's
picked
up
a
lot
of
dirt,
like
the
other
stairs
have
so
it's
starting
to
look
like
it's
not
there,
but
it's
still
a
patch
and
you
could
tell
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
use
this
mg
1260,
regular
mix
material,
it's
waterproof,
flexible,
two-part
mix,
resistance
to
oils
and
salts
non-toxic
water
clean
up
before
it
sets,
which
would
be
an
important
thing,
because
we
don't
want
a
lot
of
splatter
setting
around
the
stairs
b14
situation.
It
can
be
troweled
into
the
reverse.
Sloped
treads.
L
It
won't
compromise
exiting
can
be
applied
to
limestone,
although
the
spec
sheets
say
don't
mix
limestone
with
it.
That
was
clarified
yesterday
by
the
manufacturer
that
it's
a
matter,
if
you
don't
try
and
as
with
concrete,
you
fill
it
with
aggregate.
This
is
not
the
case,
and
if
we
use
iron
oxide
pigments,
we
would
be
able
to
tint
us
now.
I
can't
guarantee
that
we
can
tint
it
perfectly,
and
you
know
very
well
that
that
is
a
challenge.
L
L
We
went
up
to
Fort
Henry
and
looked
at
a
tsimko,
similar
trimco
traffic
coating
and
the
coloration
there
is
is
not
good.
Although
it
does
look
like
it'll
do
a
job,
it
looks
very
thin.
It
looks
like
you
may
be
melted
on
some
some
plastic,
so
we
would
like
to
work
with
the
city
staff
to
try
a
test
patch
of
this
material
and
probably
and
color
it
differently,
because
it's
different
stone,
a
different
situation.
L
This
central
staircase,
of
course,
is
protected
from
the
weather
and
probably
gets
more
maintenance,
but
so
that's
what
we'd
like
to
do.
You
can
see
whether
it
works.
The
long-term
vision
is
that
the
facilities
have
got
this
in
their
three
year,
capital
plan,
but
it's
of
course
subject
to
funding
and
that's
something:
that's
a
council
decision.
We
would
like
to
have
approval
to
do
this
within
three
years
and
have
it
done
within
five.
L
So
this
kind
of
solution
looks
like
it
would
get
us
to
that
point
when
that
work
is
done,
it's
going
to
be
very
expensive,
but
we'll
be
removing
the
whole
stair,
including
the
base
opening
up
to
the
basement
really
and
reconstructing
based
upon
the
design
that
would
be
developed.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
That's
the
plan.
L
A
C
C
C
But
if
we're
going
to
be
putting
some
kind
of
a
coating
on
them,
you're
probably
wouldn't
be
able
to
reuse
them,
anyways
I
guess
you
could
sandblast
them,
maybe
get
them
off
turn
them
upside
down.
Yeah,
okay,
another
product
I've
used
on
similar
situations
is
called
AG
a
coal
GA
seal
and
they
use
it
on
quite
a
few
metal
rooms
and
I've
used
it
on
on
porches
and
patios,
and
it's
totally
leak
free.
It's
a
really
good
product
as
well.
C
But
again
it
looks
like
that
plastic
looked
like
and
you
saw
it
I
think
at
the
Fort
Henry
you
know
it
does
it
doesn't
show
any
grain
or
anything
through
the
you
know
through
the
stone
of
this.
Will
this
new
this
product
you're
considered
you?
Will
it
show
any?
The
green
of
the
stoner
will
just
sort
of
be
trying
to
paint
a
grace
order
to
match
in.
C
L
L
K
C
L
A
K
E
A
A
couple
of
comments,
I
guess
from
heritage
point
of
view,
painting
limestone
is
not
good.
I
mean
that
the
Kingston's
stone
work
is
kind
of
what
were
known
by
and
we
get
so.
Many
tourists
coming
to
City
Hall
and
the
idea
of
of
having
them
exposed
to
painted
steps
is
certainly
undesirable,
but
I
understand.
In
the
short
term.
We
may
ask.
A
L
Think
so,
sir
I
think
that,
because
of
the
way
the
treads
sloped
back
in
the
rain
gets
on
that
and
goes
right
for
that
joint
and
throws
across
cracks,
and
then
it
sits
there.
We
want
to
tilt
it
back,
so
it
runs
off
to
the
street,
where
it
should
I
think
that
if
we
were
just
doing
joints,
we
you'd
have
a
very
motley
messy
situation,
and
you
wouldn't
be
sure
that
you
have
been
able
to
cover
all
the
issues.
L
A
I
understand
perhaps
when
you're
doing
tests,
you
might
do
a
test
of
just
joints
only
and
see
how
it
works
or
comparison,
it's
not
going
to
be
as
good,
but
it
might
might
be
better.
My
other
comment
is
the
problem
that
City
Hall
has
is
the
same
problem
that
st.
George's
house
in
Queens
University
has,
and
the
courthouse
has,
and
hopefully
a
lot
of
experience
and
expertise
built
up
in
the
past
that
I
hope
you're
unable
to
access
benefit
from.
A
C
Just
mentioned
surges
I
just
like
to
say
that
I
think
I
think
st.
George
did
a
great
job
in
the
restoration.
My
opinion
made
a
huge
mistake
by
putting
granite
stairs
in
because
you
walk
down
there
and
see
exactly
what
he
sees.
This
dark
granite
told
me
square
and
it's
ice
and
that's
not
what
limestone
is
I
hope
the
city
doesn't
go
I'm
in
it
know
that'll
last
longer,
but
limestone
stair
has
done.
Property
allows
for
a
hundred
hundred
twenty
years
and
I.
G
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
thank
you
to
mr.
Cruthers
for
the
explanation.
This
is
all
new
to
me.
So
I
do
have
one
question:
I
believe
that
the
central
stairs
to
the
building
were
replaced
at
some
point,
rather
right
where,
as
we're
talking
on
the
north
and
south
like
this
is
the
south
when
you're
talking
about
right
through
this
door
right
and
then
the
north
one
comes
off
Morrill
Hall.
G
L
As
far
as
I
know,
yes,
I,
don't
know
exactly
the
weather.
I
know
that
there
are
some
new
stones
out
there
that
have
been
replaced
and
you
could
take
a
look
at
them
and
they're
very,
very
evident.
But
there's
been
no
major
structural
and
stair-tread
replacements
here
and
at
the
North
End
that
I'm
aware
of
okay.
G
They're
really
emergency
exits
right
is
that
you
would
do
it
one
at
a
time
right.
You
wouldn't
have
them
wolf
down
at
the
same
climate
sounds
obvious,
but
maybe
just
get
it
on
the
record
that
that
you
know
should
be
the
case
and
then
just
sort
of
as
as
a
postscript
when
st.
Mary's
did
their
renovation
in
1993,
they
replaced
the
entire
front
steps
with
granite,
I
believe
right
so
again,
going
along
with
Matt's
point.
Maybe
it
doesn't
look
very
good,
but
it's
sure
solid
right.
G
A
One
further
comment:
we
committee
has
looked
at
the
repair
of
steps
that
I
think
Jackson
Hall
at
Queen's
and
what
they
did
there
was
I
mean
some
of
the
stones
were
crafts
and
so
on
so,
but
some
were
not
so
the
plan
I
believe,
was
to
keep
the
good
stones.
In
some
cases
a
cracked
stone
could
be
salvaged
by
cutting
you
know
to
make
them
a
bit
smaller
and
putting
them
together,
so
they
weren't
quite
as
big
as
they
originally
were.
A
Otherwise,
I
think
they're,
replacing
them
with
local
limestone,
but
I
think
the
intent
was
to
rebuild
the
foundation
to
get
much
better
support.
You
know
a
deep
foundation
going
down
to
bedrock
and
using
appropriate.
You
know
SiC
bedding
of
sophomore
for
something
like
that
too,
so
that
in
future
the
the
stresses
that
lead
to
cracking
will
be
hopefully
much
best
so
again,
there's
a
an
approach
that
was
taken
there,
which
you
know
sounded
pretty
good
to
me.
But
there
are
many
alternatives.
I
guess
right.
Any
other
comments,
questions.