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Heritage Kingston from July 21, 2021. For the full meeting agenda, visit https://bit.ly/3iAtEtY.
A
Good
morning,
mr
chair
committee,
members
and
everyone
who's
joining
us
this
morning
welcome
to
heritage
kingston,
mr
chair.
Before
we
get
started,
I
just
want
to
check
in
now
I
see
that
miss
o'reilly
has
joined
us.
However,
her
microphone
is
not
working
and
how
she's
logged
in
to
zoom-
and
I
do
see
that
we
have
a
phone
number.
I
think
this
might
be
janine
who's
called
in.
If
it's
all
right
with
you
just
to
double
check
and
see.
If
this
is.
A
A
B
A
Morning
we
are
currently
missing:
counselor,
doherty,
moya,
doomville,
donald
mitchell
and
ted
smith.
At
the
moment.
Hopefully
they
will
join
us
shortly.
I
have
not
received
any
regrets
joining
us
this
morning
from
staff
are
jennifer
campbell
director
of
heritage
services,
alex
rose,
thompson,
planner,
ryan,
leary
senior
planner,
janet
james
deputy
city
clerk,
as
well
as
philip
prell,
I
did
see,
was
also
here.
A
Intermediate
planner
and
julia
mccarty
jansman
is
joining
us
as
our
meeting
host,
and
we
do
currently
have
two
property
owners
on
the
meeting
as
well,
and
there
are
no
members
watching
sorry,
no
public
members
watching
from
the
gallery
at
this
time.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you,
mr
chair,
to
get
started.
B
C
Yes,
I
wonder
if,
in
other
business
we
could
have
a
bit
of
information
on
the
new
dash
website
which
has
been
modified,
and
so
I
I
hope
staff
can
give
us
a
bit
of
information
on
that
also.
I
would
like
to
make
a
couple
of
comments
relating
to
the
correspondence
from
jennifer
bailey
that
sorry,
surely
bailey
that
I
think,
is
important
for
the
committee,
so
that
would
be
under
other
business.
B
Well,
that
actually
will
come
under
correspondence,
and
it
really
is
just
there
for
for
us
to
receive.
So
we
will
decide
what
happens
to
that
when
we
get
there
because
andrea
isn't
on
the
meeting.
Yet
is
she,
but
I
know
she
may
have
some
comments
there
as
well,
so
karnovsky
and
dash
and
we've
got
the
other
one.
Okay,
thank
you
other
suggestions
for
the
agenda
and
seeing
none.
I
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
with
those
added
comments.
B
B
B
B
Well,
I'll
call
that
then
six
in
favor
on
one
not
voting.
Madam
clerk,
if
that's
okay,
thank
you
very
much
confirmation
of
the
minutes
of
june
16th.
I
have
heard
no
changes
or
corrections
or
anything
to
these.
Does
anybody
have
anything
they
want
to
comment
on
those
minutes
and
seeing
nothing
there.
Then
I
look
for
a
mover
and
a
seconder
to
approve
the
minutes
as
printed.
B
B
B
D
D
D
D
D
It's
described
as
being
a
good
example
of
a
one-room
rectangular,
limestone
schoolhouse.
The
school
was
in
operation
for
over
100
years,
and
so
it's
location,
just
west
of
westbrook
and
its
historic
roles
of
public
school,
certainly
makes
it
an
important
landmark
in
the
community.
It's
also
set
fairly
close
to
princess
street.
The
cultural
heritage
attributes
include
its
rectangular
stone
this,
while
the
stone
school
has
itself
which
includes
a
low-pitched
front,
cable
roof.
D
It's
limestone
construction,
stained
glass
transfer
window
over
the
main
entrance
and
symmetrical
three
bay,
east
and
west
elevations
featuring
segmentally
arched
window
openings
with
stone,
blue
squares,
so
you'll
notice
that
the
existing
frame
garage
is
not
listed
in
in
this
in
this
section
as
a
heritage
attribute
or
is
it,
nor
is
it
mentioned
in
the
description
of
its
values
under
regulation
906.
So,
given
that
this
is
a
fairly
recent
bylaw
from
2017,
we
have
some
clarity
that
that
that
shed
wasn't
wasn't
assessed
as
being
of
heritage
value
as
part
of
this
designation.
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
orient
you
towards
the
garage,
so
you
can
see
it
just
to
the
south
east
there
of
the
stone
schoolhouse
and
on
the
right
is
a
more
of
an
up
close
image.
So
it's
it's
a
very
simple.
I
mean
it's
got
its
charm,
but
it's
certainly
in
a
state
of
active
decay
and
deterioration,
and
the
owner
does
wish
to
demolish
it
and
to
replace
it
with
a
new
garage.
D
So
if
we
move
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
staff
reviewed
the
proposed
location
size,
heightened
design
of
the
new
garage
in
relation
to
the
schoolhouse
to
assess
any
potential
impacts
on
cultural
heritage,
value
and
attributes
that
were
listed
above.
The
primary
goal
here
here
is
to
maintain
the
visual
prominence
of
the
schoolhouse
and
its
attributes,
so
parks.
D
Canada's
standards
and
guidelines
provide
some
helpful
and
relevant
guidelines,
particularly
section
4.3,
which
is
the
guidelines
for
buildings,
specifically
4.3.1,
which
deals
with
exterior
form
provides
direction
for
when
a
building's
exterior
is
identified
as
a
character
to
find
an
element
of
historically.
So,
in
this
case,
that's
the
exterior
of
the
of
the
limestone
schoolhouse.
D
So
the
proposed
garage
would
be
cited
in
the
same
location
as
the
existing
garage
with
the
same
setback
from
the
front
facade,
which
is
approximately
10
meters,
but
with
an
increased
side,
yard
setback
or
setback
from
the
east
wall
of
the
schoolhouse.
So
approximately
now
eight
1.8
meters.
This
additional
setback
will
improve
the
visual
relationship
between
the
garage
and
the
schoolhouse
and
overall,
this
propos.
This
location
follows
guidelines,
13,
which
recommends
selecting
the
location
for
a
new
addition
that
ensures
the
heritage
value
of
the
place
is
maintained.
D
Now
the
size
of
the
proposed
garage
is
larger
than
the
existing
width,
so
moving
from
five
meters
to
six
meters
or
16.5
feet
to
20
feet,
whichever
you
prefer
metric
or
imperial
and
in
length.
It
is
extending
from
3.8
meters
to
7.3
meters
or
12
and
a
half
feet
to
24
feet.
So
the
additional
length
or
depth
of
the
new
garage
is
significant
in
proportion
to
existing
garage
and
building.
Yet
the
location
of
the
garage
towards
the
rear
of
the
schoolhouse
means
that
views
from
princess
street
will
not
be
negatively
impacted.
D
The
proposed
orientation
north
south
minimizes
visibility
of
the
building
from
the
public
realm,
as
does
the
proposed
reduction
in
height
from
4.2
meters
to
3.6
meters,
so
the
proposed
height
will
maintain
the
physical
prominence
of
the
schoolhouse
and
reinforce
the
visual
relationship
of
a
primary
building
being
the
schoolhouse
to
the
secondary
building
or
the
outbuilding
of
the
garage.
The
additional
width
of
the
proposed
garage
is
negligible
in
terms
of
the
perceived
size
overall
next
slide,
please
so.
D
The
proposed
design
includes
a
low-pitched,
gable,
roof
and
rectangular
plan
form,
along
with
the
use
of
traditional
construction
materials.
This
will
reinforce
its
arch
architectural
character
as
an
outbuilding
proposed
materials
for
the
external
elevations
include
wood
board
and
batten.
Cladding
left
untreated
to
age,
naturally,
as
well
as
brown
metal
roofing.
What
is
a
traditional
material
and
board
and
fountain
isn't
certainly
an
acceptable
siding
treatment
for
an
outbuilding
on
a
property
with
a
rural
context
or
character
again.
D
Metal
roofing
is
also
a
traditional
choice
for
rural
outbuilding,
the
contrasting
wall
and
roof
materials
of
wood
and
metal
in
the
outbuilding,
with
the
limestone
and
wood
shingles
on
the
schoolhouse
will
ensure
a
visual
distinction
between
the
new
outbuilding
and
historic
schoolhouse.
Again.
This
follows
guideline
14,
which
recommends
designing
a
new
addition
in
a
manner
that
draws
a
clear
distinction
between
what
is
historic
and
what
is
new
on
the
facade
of
the
north
elevation.
D
A
traditional
overhead
garage
door
in
painted
steel
is
proposed,
as
well
as
a
pair
of
vertically
hung
barn
style
door,
wood
doors,
a
painted
steel
person
door
is
proposed
on
the
west
elevation,
which
will
be
facing
the
schoolhouse.
Three
windows
are
proposed
on
the
south
elevation
and
two
windows
on
east
elevation.
D
D
So
I
will
now
go
to
the
next
slide,
which
includes
staff's
recommendation
that
demolition
on
the
property
be
approved
in
accordance
with
the
details
submitted
as
well
as
that's
that
heritage.
King
recommends
that
erection,
including
the
construction
of
attached
garage,
be
approved,
and
if
you
move
to
the
next
slide,
there's
a
number
of
conditions
largely
relating
to
the
details
of
the
garage
door,
the
person
during
the
window
designs
as
well
as
the
metal
roofing.
Thank
you
so
much.
F
C
One
thing
that
struck
me
in
the
design
is
the
choice
of
side
people
rather
than
front
people,
and
I
don't
know
whether
the
applicant
made
that
was
a
specific
preference,
but
usually
it's
normal
for
the
roof
ridge
to
be
along
the
to
be
parallel
to
the
longest
dimension
of
the
property
and
that
that's
really
more
convenient
because
it
means
the
roof.
Rafters
are
shorter
and
easier
to
satisfy
building
code
and
also
a
front
cable
arrangement
would
be
similar
to
the
schoolhouse,
and
I
think
it
would
look
quite
compatible.
C
D
Would
just
make
one
point
before
we
move
to
mr
butler,
which
is
I
also
shared
that
observation
dawn.
One
one
concern
I
would
have
with
going
with
a
front
cable
is
given
the
size
of
the
garage,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
would
make
for
quite
a
tall
roof
in
relation
to
the
main
building.
Just
given
that
it's
quite
a
large
large
garage
but
but
perhaps
that's
worth
exploring,
and
I'm
happy
to
hear
mr
butler's
response.
B
G
B
B
G
C
C
Secondly,
committee
is
pleased
that
you're
planning
to
use
wood,
boredom
batten,
siding
and
you
mention
natural,
untreated
wood
and
okay,
that's
no
objection
to
that.
But
nowadays
a
lot
of
people
are
using
brown
pressure,
treated
lumber,
which
ages
very
nicely
the
same
way.
It
doesn't
have
the
horrible
green
look
for
the
first
few
years
and
it
should
last
longer.
So
that's
a
suggestion.
C
C
Fourth
point:
the
last
point
is
the
garage
door,
as
you
has
been
said,
it'd
be
good
if
it's
rather
plain
and
designed,
so
it
doesn't
look
too
modern.
In
fact,
I
don't
think
it
really
needs
windows,
because
there
are
windows
along
both
sides
of
the
garage,
so
it
could
be
just
a
plain
garage
door,
and
I
again
I
think
white
would
be
true
to
striking
a
color
in
the
context
from
the
from
the
street,
and
I
would
suggest
something
you
know
a
beige
or
a
brown
or
a
gray.
Something
like
that.
B
G
Yeah,
I
would
just
say
in
particular
about
the
windows.
Certainly
if
I
can
buy
windows
that
are
better
suited,
you
know
if
they
can
make
small
pain
glass
with
millions
I'd
be
happy
to
buy
that
I'm
100
behind
the
heritage.
On
this
place,
I
will
do
anything
to
make
it
feel
heritage
the
garage
door-
certainly
I
just
have
not
shopped
around-
I
don't
even
know
what's
available,
so
I
understand
your
feeling
on
that
would
certainly
look
in
that
direction
and
will,
of
course
be
sending
photos
or
pictures
of
whatever
I
need
there
or
whatever.
G
D
Sure
I
just
wanted
to
to
clarify
to
don.
There
hasn't
been.
I
don't
know
if
I,
if
I
accidentally
misspoke,
there
was
no
intention
to
use
vinyl
windows
on
mr
butler's
behalf
on
his
parts,
so
we
were
going
to
work
together,
though,
to
figure
out
the
best
proportion
for
those
windows
if
he
does
want
to
divide
them
up,
because
I'm
cautious
about
accidentally
getting
a
division,
that's
too
squat
and
needs
to
be
taller
than
if
we're
going
to
divide
them
up.
D
C
B
B
B
B
B
B
Now,
counselor
doctor
your
hand
is
still
raised
you're
still
trying
to
speak,
no
you're,
not
you
took
it,
put
it
down
excellent
okay.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
butler,
for
for
your
help
there
as
well
item.
Two,
then,
is
the
notice
of
intention
to
designate
1315
and
17
corbin
street
371
days,
road,
35748,
princess
street
and
3728
princess
street
and
ryan
alex
who's.
Oh
there's,
ryan,
hi.
H
Good
morning,
mr
chair
good
morning
welcome,
so
this
is
a
a
report
that
we
don't
haven't
seen
in
a
while
and
that's
kind
of
exciting,
to
bring
some
new
heritage
properties
to
the
committee
for
consideration
today.
We're
looking
at
six
properties.
Arguably,
four
resources,
as
one
of
them
is
a
is
a
terrorist
and
I've.
H
We
put
together
the
report
to
outline
these
four
resources
and
and
their
heritage
value
and
give
you
a
bit
of
a
taste
of
the
changes
that
have
come
through
the
recent
bill,
108,
which
will
now
have
a
an
impact
on
on
how
we
move
forward
with
these
type
of
processes
so
I'll
skip
to
the
next
slide.
Please
so
I
copied
this,
I'm
I'm
sure,
you're
thrilled.
It's
the
process
map
that
the
province
has
put
together
for
new
designations
and
just
to
step
back
quickly.
H
H
It
was
a
90-page
bill
known
as
bill
108,
and
it
made
changes
to
13
separate
acts,
including
the
ontario
heritage
act.
The
amendments
to
the
heritage
act,
including
the
introduction
of
a
new
general
regulations,
385-21,
came
into
effect
on
canada
day
this
year
so
july,
1st
2021,
with
respect
to
the
proposed
designations
that
we're
looking
at
today.
The
pertinent
changes
enacted
through
that
bill
are
the
prescribed
information.
H
This
was
actually
confirmed
by
a
question
that
was
raised
at
one
of
our
training
sessions.
I
believe
mr
chair
was
was
in
attendance
at
the
member
actually
by
the
member
of
the
province.
The
ministry
actually
noted
that
a
well-written
bylaw
before
the
passing
of
bill
108
will
continue
to
be
an
acceptable,
well-written
bylaw
after
so
so
we
were
encouraged
by
that.
H
F
H
E
E
H
Course,
this
timing
and
serving
of
the
notice
of
intent
to
designate
remains
unchanged,
so
the
process
is
to
consult
with
heritage
kingston.
Once
your
motion
is
passed
to
council
council
can
choose
to
serve
the
notice
of
intention
to
designate
on
the
property
under
section
29
of
the
act
on
the
property
owner
and
the
trust,
and
we
publish
it
in
the
in
the
newspaper
so,
and
that
gives
a
30-day
objection
period
to
anyone
who
wishes
to
object
there
to
provide
a
notice
objection
to
the
city
clerk.
H
So
that's
that's
the
current
process
now
the
with
the
new
bill
108.
The
process
is
altered
from
that
point
on.
So
those
type
of
objections
that
are
served
on
the
clerk
are
then
now
required
to
be
considered
by
council
before
the
bylaw
is
passed.
So
council
has
90
days
to
decide
if
it
wishes
to
proceed
with
the
designation
or
not
and
it's
decision.
If
there's
an
objection,
the
decision
is
required
to
be
served
on
the
owner
and
published
again
in
the
newspaper
in
the
form
of
either
a
notice
of
passing.
H
H
So
that's
that's
new
and
we
have
drafted
the
bylaw
and
the
notice
to
to
meet
the
requirements.
So
getting
the
next
slide,
please
so
getting
into
the
properties
that
we're
looking
at
today.
These
have
all
originated
from
what
was
called
the
cultural
heritage,
property
evaluation
and
conservation
project
of
2015-2016.
H
The
report,
the
background
was
researched
by
the
archaeological
research
associates,
a
consulting
firm
that
we
retained
and
the
properties
were
evaluated
against
ontario
regulation,
906,
which
looks
at
the
physical
design
and
historical
associated
value
and
protection
value
of
the
resource
to
determine
if
they
have
heritage
value.
So
the
first
one
is
being
called
the
lower
coburn
street
victorian
terrace.
It's
at
13,
15
and
17
coburn
street
three
separate
properties
located
in
the
st
lawrence
ward
heritage,
character
area.
H
H
The
victorian
era
architecture
is
exemplified
by
the
two
and
a
half
story:
red
brick
structure,
with
projecting
bays
on
each
unit
featuring
pairs
of
segmentally
arched
windows
on
each
story
top
of
the
game.
This
terrace
also
has
contextual
value
in
the
way
it's
striking
architecture
and
and
character
of
the
streetscape
next
slide.
Please.
H
Oh
skip
one,
the
the
next
one
is
the
crystal
springs.
Schoolhouse,
I
apologize
the
picture's
a
few
years
old.
We
tried
to
get
one
that
you
can
see
the
whole
front.
It's
got
a
lot
of
foliage
on
along
front,
so
the
crystal
springs.
Schoolhouse
is
on
days
road,
321
days,
road
in
the
henderson
neighborhood
and
overlooking
the
collins
bay
penitentiary
farmlands
to
the
east.
H
H
The
next
slide,
please.
This
is
the
spruls
inn.
It
is
at
3574
to
3578
princess
street
in
westbrook.
It
has
culture
heritage
value
as
a
representative
example
of
an
early
19th
century,
georgian
influenced
ontario
vernacular
limestone
building
both
as
a
dwelling
and
a
commercial
inn.
It's
also
a
good
example
of
a
bank
house
which
is
a
house
built
into
a
hill,
and
the
attributes
include
the
two-story
stone
dwelling
with
gable
roof,
a
regular
fenestration
pattern.
H
the
with
the
limestone
construction,
the
property
is
important,
is
important
to
maintaining
the
historic
integrity
of
streetscape
and
the
former
rural
village
of
westbrook.
The
next
slide,
please,
the
final
resource
is
the
gardner-hagendorn
farmhouse.
It's
also
on
the
west
edge
of
westbrook
at
3728
princess.
H
Full
statements
of
significance
are
included
in
your
agenda
in
the
draft
bylaws.
There
exhibits
b
through
e.
These
photographs
are
also
included,
in
exhibit
f
the
heritage
properties.
Working
group
reviewed
the
draft
bylaws
and
consultant
reports
some
time
ago,
I'm
afraid,
but
they
haven't
changed
much
and
supports
the
designation
of
the
properties.
As
of
those
of
heritage
value,
the
property
owners
have
been
provided
with
letters,
including
the
draft
bylaws
and
the
background
reports,
the
property
owners,
while
they're
not
required
to
support
the
designation.
H
However,
each
owner
of
the
above
properties
have
provided
feedback,
which
we
have
considered
in
the
drafting
of
the
attached
bylaws
and
are
supportive
of
the
proposed
designation
texts
submission
to
the
next
slide.
Actually,
the
next
three
slides
are
the
recommendation.
I
apologize
for
their
length
but
to
keep
things
simple.
H
They
are
divided
by
property,
so
each
property
has
two
motions.
The
the
broken
up
into
by
the
notice
of
intention
to
designate
is
the
first
part
which
needs
to
be
served
as
under
section
29,
and
the
second
is,
is
the
passing
of
the
actual
designation
bylaw,
provided
that
there
are
no
objections
received
within
the
appeal
period.
So
there
are
three
slides
that
outline
the
the
motions
that
we
are
recommending,
mr
chair
and
happy
to
take
questions
thanks.
B
E
E
E
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
I'm
just
involved
here,
just
just
watching
and
stuff,
so
I
just
wanted
to
note
publicly
a
big
thanks
to
ryan
and
his
team
for
working
with
us
they've
been
very
collaborative
and
working
well
with
us
throughout
this
process.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
the
committee
members,
my
only
other
question,
was
just
at
the
end
of
this.
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
those
kind
words
as
well.
I
think
probably
most
of
the
committee
would
agree
with
them
as
well.
Ryan,
if
you
you've
got
that.
As
a
note,
then,
thank
you
very
much
further
questions
comments.
I'm
not
going
to
read
through
the
motion.
Then
it
basically
lists
the
four
properties
and
recommends
the
process
to
be
taken.
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
madam
clerk
yeah
through
you,
mr
chair,
the
I
thank
you
for
the
compliment.
Mr
satchel
he's.
We
certainly
have
have
conversed
back
and
forth,
and-
and
I
think
everyone
is
happy
with
the
draft
by
law
that
we
came
up
with,
and
I
hope
the
committee
is.
The
process
now
will
be
to
pass.
H
The
motion
on
to
council
council
will
then
decide
if
they
wish
to
proceed
with
this,
and
and
if
so,
there
will
be
a
formal
letter
going
to
the
owner
as
well
as
their
notice
of
intention
to
designate,
and
we
will
certainly
be
in
touch
if
we
have
any
questions
and
and
I'll
certainly
be
reaching
out
to
follow
up
with
the
owners.
So
definitely.
B
B
One,
if
we
could,
we
could
just
go
back
and
redo.
Oh
sorry,
can
we
go
back
on
that?
Sorry,
I
think
I
thought
we'd
done
that
before
we
got
into
the
discussion
looking
for
a
move
and
a
seconder
for
that,
then
for
the
record
jennifer
and
don
taylor
jennifer
moving
don
taylor.
Second
thing:
my
apologies
for
that.
I
presume
that
won't
change
anybody's
vote.
So,
unless
you're
going
to
shout
at
present,
it's
going
to
be
eight
four
zero
against
them.
Two.
B
Good,
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you,
ryan.
I
know
that's
a
long,
long
job
doing
that
and
I'm
getting
all
those
written
up
and
for
presenting
such
working
groups.
I
don't
see
any
minutes
from
working
groups.
Is
that
correct,
okay,
emergency
approvals,
241
johnson,
want
to
comment
on
that
ryan
or
alex,
or
whoever.
H
B
B
I
Yeah
for
the
update
having
a
moment
here,
my
screen
oriented,
so
the
update,
unfortunately,
is
probably
going
to
be
quite
brief
at
this
time.
What
we
we
can
share
is
that
legal
services
is
in
discussion
with
the
with
the
building
owner
to
ensure
that
any
of
the
redevelopment
proposals
and
and
the
work
is
compliant
with
the
terms
of
the
heritage,
easement
agreement,
and
we
would
be
able
to
offer
further
updates
at
a
future
date.
When
we
get
a
conclusion
of
that
discussion
with
legal
services.
I
B
C
J
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
chair.
I
did
just
want
to
mention
that
so
so
the
dash
system
does
have
a
new
interface,
a
new
user
interface,
which
changes
the
way
it
looks.
But
my
understanding
is
that
all
of
the
processes
and
functions
are
supposed
to
be
the
same.
So
I
will
certainly
look
into
that
and
see
see
what's
going
on
there.
Maybe
maybe
there's
been
a
glitch
or
something,
but
also
more
broadly.
I
just
wanted
to
let
all
of
the
committee
members
know.
J
B
B
B
So
can
I
give
that
as
a
question
to
you
to
think
about
sometime
and
as
I
say,
I
believe
that
the
heritage
foundation
fortnight
heritage
foundation
will
happily
support
such
a
meeting
when
we
can
talk
through
some
of
these
things
that
have
come
up
and
I'll
just
leave
that
of
you
or
andrea
or
whoever
wants
jennifer.
Whoever
wants
to
to
pick
up
on
that
one
any
further
comments
on
that.
Normally
the
correspondence
is
there
just
for
you
to
read
and
think
about
and
okay
now.
The
next
meeting
is
an
interesting
one.
B
We
have
it
scheduled
for
august
the
18th
one
month's
time
we
are
present
have
no
applications,
and
since
it
is
past
the
date
for
applications,
unless
something
very
mysterious
happens,
there
may
be
nothing
on
that
meeting
date.
However,
we
cannot
cancel
the
meeting
until
such
time.
As
and
elizabeth
remind
me
it's
when
the
agenda
should
be
published.
Is
that
right.
A
B
So
it
looks
at
present
as
though
we
probably
won't
be
meeting
on
august
the
18th,
but
you
never
know
what
what
happens
so,
unless
I've
forgotten
anything
not
seeing
anybody
waving
or
doing
anything
at
all.
I
look
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
counselor
ustahoff
don
mitchell,
all
in
favor,
yes,
they're
all
there
good.
Thank
you
all
very
much
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
summer.
Take
care.