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Description
Housing and Homelessness Advisory Committee from August 11, 2021. For the full meeting agenda, visit https://bit.ly/2VF1q9H.
A
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
committee
members
welcome
everyone
to
this
afternoon's
housing
and
homelessness
advisory
committee.
It
is
just
one
o'clock,
madam
chair.
I
do
know
that
counselor
neil
should
be
joining
us
soon.
Is
it
all
right
if
we
give
him
a
couple
minutes
to
see
if
he
can
join
us
before
we
get
started.
B
A
Madame
chair,
I
I
apologize
for
interrupting
if
I
could
just
briefly
run
through
who's
currently
in
the
meeting
just
for
the
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
at
home,
so
that
everyone
knows
who
is
supporting
us
through
staff
this
afternoon.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
madam
chair
will
confirm
that
we
do
have
quorum
and
we
have
received
regrets
from
councillor
doherty
peter
clark
and
francesca
crete.
A
As
the
committee
clerk,
we
also
have
tracy
flaherty
willmott
associate
director
of
org
code,
consulting
inc,
who
will
be
here
to
present
to
the
committee
during
the
briefing,
and
there
are
currently
eight
members
of
the
public
joining
us
on
this
call,
and
with
that
madam
chair
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
you.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
and
sorry.
I
hadn't
thought
of
allowing
you
to
do
that
right
there.
Sorry
about
that.
So
we'll
move
back
over
to
approval
of
the
agenda.
We
do
have
an
addendum
to
be
added.
Some
correspondence
was
received
this
morning,
so
we'll
make
note
of
that
as
that's
added
to
the
agenda,
and
I
would
also
like
to
add
myself
to
the
agenda
under
other
business
to
provide
an
announcement
to
the
committee
regarding
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
housing
and
homelessness
advisory
committee
on
september
9th.
B
B
I
see
both
mrs
smith
and
mr
neil
have
raised
their
hands
so,
mrs
smith,
can
we
go
with
you
as
a
first
and
counselor
neil
with
us?
Second,
thank
you
and
all
in
favor.
Please
thank
you
so
that
passes
so
we'll
move
into
confirmation
of
minutes.
There
are
no
minutes
to
be
confirmed
until
the
next
meeting
disclosure
of
pecuniary
interest.
B
They
would
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
for
five
minutes,
and
all
questions
will
be
answered
at
the
end
of
the
public
questions.
Slash
comments
following
that.
So
we'll
move
over
into
briefings.
Now
with
us.
Today
we
have
tracy
flaherty
wilmot,
associate
director
of
orgrid
good
org
code,
consulting
inc
and
she's
present
to
speak
to
the
committee
regarding
the
homelessness
system,
review.
D
So
hi
everybody
greetings
from
halifax.
Today,
I'm
happy
to
be
with
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
for,
and
the
committee
members
for
giving
us
an
opportunity
to
actually
look
at
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
related
to
a
system
review
and,
as
you
can
see
here
in
front
of
you,
our
quest
is
to
actually
assist
the
city
of
kingston
as
the
service
manager
for
housing
and
homelessness,
to
look
at
enhancing
the
housing
and
homelessness
service
system
performance
throughout
kingston
and
frontenac.
D
If
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
just
real,
quick
and
I'm
actually
going
to
assist
in
terms
of
getting
us
through
this
presentation.
I
know
some
of
the
presentation,
slides
or
potentially
all
of
them
have
been
shared,
but
I
will
actually
very
quickly
go
through
them
just
to
keep
within
our
30
minutes.
So
those
of
you
who
aren't
familiar
with
or
code
consulting,
we
are
indeed
a
small
canadian
consulting
company.
D
D
We
can
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
so
in
terms
of
just
a
real
quick
overview
as
to
the
goal
of
this
current
project.
First
and
foremost,
we
really
want
to
optimize
some
of
the
qualitative
work.
That's
happened
so
far,
just
to
really
look
at
what
the
the
information
was
related
to
local
demands
for
services,
what
resources
and
investments
were
available
so
really
looking
at
some
of
the
work
that
would
have
been
completed
by
insult
insight,
consulting
and
some
other
reports
as
well,
that
were
much
more
qualitative
in
nature.
D
We
also
want
to
ensure
that
we're
providing
a
catalyst
for
community
action.
We
want
to
help
the
city
of
kingston,
establish
bold
and
actionable
recommendation.
That's
really
designed
to
align
service
delivery
and
engagement
strategies
so
that
they're,
actually
in
keeping
with
evidence-informed
practices
related
to
preventing
and
ending
homelessness.
D
So
our
focus
was
primarily
on
providing
a
quantitative,
as
well
as
a
fidelity-based
assessment
of
your
current
investments,
your
programs,
your
resources
available
to
support
people
who
are
experiencing
housing
crisis
and
homelessness
in
kingston
and
front
neck
move
on
to
the
next
slide
in
terms
of
what
we've
completed
to
date.
So
a
real
quick
overview,
we
have
done
a
complete
review
of
the
service
landscape.
D
Both
data
and
document
review,
we've
analyzed
seven
years
of
hyphas
data,
which
covers
over
200
or
sorry
22
000
records,
we've
also
completed
fidelity
to
practice,
reviews
for
prevention
and
diversion
shelter,
day,
services,
rapid
rehousing
and
housing
first,
and
these
fidelity
reviews
have
actually
been
completed
either
remotely
or
also
in
person.
We've
had
interviews
with
63
service
providers,
we've
had
discussions
with
42
people
with
lived
and
living
experience.
D
D
In
addition
to
that,
we've
also
been
attached
to
eight
separate
agency-based
meetings
and
case
conferences
and
had
weekly
sessions
with
the
city
of
kingston
team,
as
you
move
on
forward
there.
So
in
terms
of
some
of
the
results
of
the
survey
and
the
interviews
when
we
think
about
what
has
actually
been
revealed
as
part
of
the
survey
there's
a
number
of
things,
we're
going
to
very
quickly
go
through
some
of
these
slides
just
because
of
time
constraints.
D
So
as
we
look
at
the
very
first
one,
there's
an
acknowledgement
throughout
kingston
and
front
neck
that
community
members
recognize
that
it
appears
as
if
homelessness
has,
indeed
increased,
certainly
become
more
visible,
and
the
belief
is
also
that
available
services
cannot
currently
meet
the
local
needs,
and
that
was
87
percent
of
the
local
population.
That
responded
to
the
community
survey
in
your
next
slide.
Here,
you're
going
to
recognize
a
couple
of
key
themes
that
continue
to
come
up
over
and
over
again
in
the
responses
to
our
questions
and
to
our
surveys.
D
D
When
we
kind
of
look
at
top
priorities
again,
this
common
theme,
we
have
over
almost
55
of
your
representatives
throughout
the
community
who
continue
to
identify
that
the
biggest
priority
has
to
be
increasing
the
supply
of
affordable
housing,
followed
very
quickly
behind
that,
with
increasing
permanent
supportive
housing
options
for
people
who
need
it.
We
also
have
things
like
the
need
for
additional
rent
supplements
and
then
again
the
addition
of
support
services
related
to
behavioral
health,
physical
health
compromise
mental
wellness.
D
D
D
D
Here,
it's
again
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
many
people
are
actually
experiencing
homelessness
that
have
indeed
been
rehoused,
so
this
kind
of
takes
into
that
number
of
people
that
are
experiencing
chronic
homelessness,
as
well
as
veteran
homelessness.
So
455
people
have
been
housed
in
september
of
2020,
really
remarkable,
given,
of
course,
the
number
of
challenges
that
communities
have
actually
experienced
so
moving
forward
on
our
next
slide
here
and,
of
course,
probably
also
courtesy
of
moratoriums.
D
Next
slide,
when
we
sort
of
think
about
measuring
system
performance,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
things
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at,
and
this
is
where
these
22
000
plus
records
come
into
effect
on
the
very
next
slide
be
beyond
sort
of
this
system.
Inflow
outflow,
there's
really
three
primary
metrics
that
prove
to
be
the
most
important.
We
want
to
find
out.
How
long
are
people
spending
in
the
experience
of
homelessness?
So
that
means
are
we
actually
efficient
in
the
work
that
we
do,
how
many
people
are
moving
into
housing?
D
So
are
we
effective
and
how
many
people
are
returning
to
homelessness?
Have
we
been
successful
in
enduring
that
end
to
their
homelessness,
or
are
they
coming
back
into
our
homeless
response
system?
Our
next
slide
here,
when
we
sort
of
think
about
who
has
been
served,
an
acknowledgement
that
the
database
we
received.
Just
last
week,
we
looked
at
data
of
those
22
000
records.
D
This
data
came
from
2014
all
the
way
up
to
2021
of
those
22
000
plus
records.
We
could
actually
deduplicate
that
information
and
we
had
5446
unique
households
that
were
actually
supported
in
addressing
their
housing.
Procarity
and
or
homelessness
in
the
next
slide.
However,
we
start
to
see
that
there's
a
bit
of
a
challenge.
So
beyond
these
5
400
households
that
were
supported,
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
a
small
percentage,
in
fact,
only
9
of
all
the
people
that
are
served,
are
using
the
bulk
of
the
homelessness
and
rehousing
responses
in
your
community.
D
D
Unfortunately,
when
we
look
at
our
hyphas
data,
only
about
12
of
the
people
that
were
supported
actually
had
their
exit
destination
recorded
within
that
data
system.
So
when
you
think
about
all
those
folks
that
were
supported
through
prevention,
diversion
or
shelter
or
anything
else,
88
of
all
those
that
were
served
actually
had
a
blank
when
it
came
to
us
understanding
where
the
majority
of
their
destinations
were
when
they
exited
that
program
and
understanding
that
hyphas,
which
is
your
database
haifa's
data
entry,
actually
matters
tremendously.
D
D
So
a
little
over
half
of
your
shelter
stairs
are
successfully
being
housed.
30
of
them
are
exiting
to
homelessness
and
15
of
them
are
exiting
elsewhere.
This
may
mean
that
we
can't
find
them.
It
may
mean
that
they
left
the
community,
but
currently
they've
exited
somewhere
else
and
we're
unsure
where
that
is
in
your
next
slide.
We're
going
to
have
a
look
at
how
did
we
do
when
it
came
to
rapid
rehousing
and
housing?
D
D
Now
kingston
was
one
of
the
first
service
manager
areas
across
ontario
to
actually
dedicate
investment
directly
into
prevention
and
diversion
programming
as
part
of
your
housing
and
homelessness
service
system.
You're
going
to
see
here
that
that
investment
is
indeed
paying
off
as
we
look
at
homelessness
prevention
and
diversion
our
exits
from
that
intervention
back
to
stable
housing
is
75.
D
However,
there
is
an
opportunity
to
improve
upon
that
because,
as
we
dig
down
into
the
data
a
little
bit
more
we'll
discover
some
discrepancies
around
who's
actually
being
served
within
prevention
and
diversion
for
street
outreach,
recognizing
that
this
is
oftentimes.
The
first
point
of
contact
exiting
from
street
outreach
to
permanent
housing
is
25
and
on
to
the
next
screen
here,
when
we're
examining
all
of
the
individuals
that
are
actually
touching
our
system,
so
they've
had
some
form
of
an
intake.
D
D
Now,
we
must
be
aware
of
the
fact
that
the
integrated
care
hub
ich
is
currently
not
included
in
this.
So
as
we
look
at
shelter
on
average
34
days
from
admission
to
shelter
to
a
positive
housing
exit
when
we
think
about
rapid
rehousing
and
housing.
First,
the
amount
of
time
that
people
stay
homeless
after
a
referral
to
rapid
rehousing
or
housing
first
is
much
longer
than
we
would
need
it
to
be,
and
so
we'll
talk
about
that
in
just
a
few
minutes.
D
There's
an
acknowledgement
here
that
about
a
half
and
we're
only
looking
at
the
data
from
july
of
2020
to
july
of
2021
here
in
terms
of
how
many
people
actually
return
to
homelessness
after
they've
been
housed
and
so
an
acknowledgement
being
that
we
have
some
work
to
do
in
this.
So
about
half
of
everyone.
Who's
currently
served
by
shelter
or
outreach
actually
returned
to
homelessness.
D
And
an
interesting
point
about
this,
which
will
certainly
come
up
later,
is
the
recognition
that,
since
early
of
2020,
rapid
rehousing
and
housing,
first
programs
have
had
no
rent
supplements
attached
to
them,
which
is
certainly
not
in
alignment
with
evidence-informed
practice
related
to
housing.
First
programming.
D
So,
let's
move
into
successes
and
challenges,
and
I
want
to
try
to
focus
in
on
some
of
the
key
points
here,
there's
an
acknowledgement
that
the
increased
community
representation,
that's
at
advisory
committee
levels
and
leadership
and
system
review
committees
has
been
hugely
important
in
terms
of
the
inclusion
of
diverse
experiences
and
voices,
and
really
working
to
ensure
that
housing
as
a
basic
human
right
and
the
importance
of
trauma-informed
care
has
been
in
the
spotlight.
So
that's
extremely
important
when
we
go
to
the
next
slide
here.
D
What
we're
going
to
recognize,
however,
is
that
it
becomes
really
really
important
as
we're
looking
at
housing
and
homelessness
service
system,
that
we
do
not
lose
sight
of
our
goal,
and
so,
when
we
sort
of
think
about
the
city
of
kingston
and
the
multitude
of
portfolios
and
services
that
they're
providing,
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
the
city
can
indeed
use
its
influence.
It
can
leverage
and
try
to
have
an
impact
on
a
multitude
of
issues
that
are
impacting
citizens.
D
But
please
don't
get
distracted
with
all
these
important
issues,
but
we
really
need
to
focus
in
on
how
do
we
improve
this
system?
Performance
moving
on
we've
got
prevention,
diversion,
let's
be
really
clear.
First
and
foremost,
when
we
look
at
the
data
13
of
those
who
are
served
in
prevention
and
diversion
programming
later
experience
homelessness.
D
This
particular
data
is
so
amazing
that
it
actually
calls
into
question
some
things
about
who
are
we
actually
serving?
We
recognize
that,
over
the
last
few
years,
there's
been
increased
flexibility
around
homelessness
prevention
funding
and
how
it
can
be
used.
So
we
know
it's
having
the
impact
on
helping
households
stabilize
and
with
positive
housing
outcomes.
D
The
other
piece
that
we
want
to
really
highlight
for
prevention
and
diversion
is
that
your
prevention
and
diversion
staff
that
operate
within
the
in
from
the
cold
shelter
is
second
and
on
so
that
very
strong
and
dedicated
focus
on
housing
is
actually
an
example
of
what
every
community
should
be
doing
when
we
move
in
beyond
the
success
around
prevention
and
diversion,
and
look
at
actually
some
of
the
challenges.
So
the
next
slide,
please,
we
want
to
ensure
that
we're
using
prevention
funds
for
the
most
vulnerable
individuals.
D
So
the
very
fact
that
only
13
of
the
folks
that
are
served
through
prevention
and
diversion
later
experience
homelessness
actually
tells
us
that
they
are
likely
serving
households
with
lower
vulnerability
levels.
When
we
think
about
all
the
research,
all
the
evidence,
that's
out
there.
We
also
know
that
there's
plenty
of
opportunity
for
a
realignment
around
policies
and
one
of
the
the
key
challenges
is
this
scenario
where
people
who
are
using
the
discretionary
residency
benefit.
The
drb
may
be
ineligible
for
the
homelessness
prevention
fund.
D
D
D
D
D
Currently,
with
the
city
of
kingston,
your
current
investment
in
rent
supplements
is
representing
less
than
one
quarter
of
what
other
service
managers
are
investing
for,
rent
supplements
for
re-housing
programs,
so
this
is
certainly
a
huge
issue,
those
rapid
rehousing
and
housing
first
clients.
I
believe
there
might
be
40
of
them
that
are
currently
receiving
rent
supplements.
D
D
D
Your
outreach
investment,
however,
is
much
less
than
what
other
communities
are
investing
for
outreach.
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
slide.
This
actually
provides
us
with
just
a
real
understanding
of
what
this
shelter
investment
actually
looks.
Like
so
you're
going
to
start
to
see
here,
I've
highlighted
kingston
front
neck.
I've
used
the
annual
investment
for
shelter
based
on
2020
2021,
so
this
incorporates
the
integrated
care
hub
and
the
50
additional
rest
pods
there.
D
Your
investment,
as
I
talked
about
before
16.57
per
resident
throughout
kingston
front
neck,
much
higher,
even
higher
than
peterborough,
which
was
something
I
never
thought
I
would
be
able
to
say
so
when
we
kind
of
look
at
investment,
ideally,
we
would
be
looking
at
an
investment
per
resident.
That's
in
the
moderate
range.
D
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
slide
success.
The
introduction
of
the
integrated
care
hub
harm
reduction
is
in
every
fabric
of
how
the
integrated
care
hub
and
the
hiv
aids
resource
service
or
regional
services
does
its
work.
They
value
and
live
compassion.
Empathy,
harm
reduction,
solidarity,
social
justice,
there's
always
supply
access,
whether
it's
for
harm
reduction,
safer
injection.
We
know
that
the
supervised
site
is
there
as
well,
every
single
guest
that
we
connected
with,
and
we
actually
spent
a
day
there.
D
Every
guest
during
the
site
visit
was
either
already
housed,
so
they
weren't
actually
experiencing
homelessness
and
those
that
were
experiencing
homelessness.
They
certainly
wanted
to
be
housed.
At
the
same
time,
many
of
them
spoke
about
the
need
to
receive
support
and
also
that
support
needed
to
include
financial
support.
D
Moving
on
to
our
shelter
system
and
another
success
is
the
housing
focus,
that's
really
evident
in
the
in
from
the
cold
operations.
So,
as
we
sort
of
think
about
what
this
looks
like,
this
shelter
sees
a
return
to
housing
as
the
primary
aim
of
their
work.
They
have
a
very
strong
prevention
and
diversion
emphasis.
They've
got
clear
messages.
D
They
know
what
this
needs
to
look
like.
There
is
a
recognition,
however,
that
there's
a
quite
a
difference
in
how
they
deliver
services
than
from
the
integrated
care
hub.
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
a
couple
of
things
to
be
really
clear
of
in
terms
of
pressure
points,
misperceptions
around
shelter,
realities,
there's
an
understanding
that,
from
in
from
the
cold
community
perception,
seems
to
be
that
they're
creaming
they're
only
taking
those
folks
that
they
want
to
work
with.
D
It
was
very
evident
for
orco
that
the
selection
of
who's
coming
in
is
really
based
on
the
client's
housing
interest.
Everyone.
That's
there.
It's
working
on
a
housing
plan
and
that
the
acuity
levels,
so
the
depth
of
need
of
the
people
that
they're
serving
are
indeed
moderate
depth
of
need.
Would
we
like
to
see
a
higher
depth
of
need
to
actually
be
served
and
to
have
this
housing
focus,
of
course,
but
an
acknowledgement
that
the
perceptions
out
in
the
community
that
only
low
acuity
guests
were
welcome
and
served
certainly
proved
to
be
incorrect.
D
However,
you
have
one:
that's
hyper,
focused
on
harm
reduction
and
doesn't
actually
consider
themselves
a
shelter
and
doesn't
really
see
themselves
as
being
able
to
deliver
housing
assistance,
and
you
have
the
other
one.
That's
hyper
focused
on
housing
and
striving
to
align
to
be
housing,
focused
they're,
both
commendable,
but
instead
of
seeing
them
as
better
or
worse,
we
actually
need
to
see
them
as
complementary.
So
how
can
we
learn
from
one
another?
D
When
we
look
at
re-housing
programs,
your
rapid
rehousing
and
housing
first
continue
to
actually
maintain
fidelity
to
practice
for
those
clients
that
are
indeed
housed
the
biggest
challenge
that
you're
going
to
see
and
you'll
certainly
see.
This,
I
believe
in
the
next
slide,
is
the
recognition
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
referrals
that
are
being
made
to
rapid,
rehousing
and
housing
first
are
remaining
homeless
for
way
too
long.
D
D
Many
different
issues
coming
into
effect
in
that
regard,
but
the
biggest
one
being
the
lack
of
affordability,
around
housing
options,
and
so
we
need
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
increase
the
sustainability
and
the
availability
of
supportive
housing
options
for
highly
vulnerable
people
without
that,
including
rent
supplements?
Your
current
investments
will
never
be
optimized
moving
forward
when
we
think
about
your
success.
D
D
We
need
to
ensure
that
this
height,
this
silo
between
the
homelessness
response
and
community
housing,
disappears
some
of
the
ways
of
doing
that
is
making
sure
that,
in
terms
of
accessing
these
supports
that
people
actually
have
an
opportunity
to
have
a
homelessness
priority,
and
I
know
the
city
of
kingston
staff
are
currently
working
on
that.
Just
like
you
have
a
special
priority
population
as
it
relates
to
women
and
families
who
are
fleeing
violence.
The
same
thing
needs
to
happen
to
your
for
your
highly
vulnerable
individuals
and
households
that
are
experiencing
homelessness.
D
D
D
When
we
sort
of
think
about
this
number,
one
challenge
number
one
barrier:
the
lack
of
affordable
and
appropriate
housing
options
are
key.
The
homelessness
priority
for
all
community
housing
investments
also
really
really
important
an
acknowledgement
that,
without
rent
supplements
dedicated
to
your
housing,
first
and
rapid
rehousing
programs,
your
ability
to
successfully
end
chronic
homelessness,
it
will
never
be
achieved,
and
so
dedicating
rent
supplements
for
this
particular
program
and
for
these
clients
will
be
essential
moving
forward
and
that
actually
talks
about.
D
In
addition
to
that,
for
those
clients
that
are
currently
receiving
investment
in
affordable
housing,
rent
supplements
so
for
those
40
households
that
are
currently
receiving
rent
supplements
through
their
housing
first
and
rapid
re-housing
programs
transferring
those
rent
supplements
into
the
regular
permanent
portable
housing
benefits
via
the
service
manager
will
be
essential
for
their
long-term
housing.
Stability
moving
forward
supportive
and
supported,
including
transitional
housing
options,
have
to
be
enhanced,
so
an
acknowledgement.
D
As
you
look
at
system
inflow
and
system
outflow,
there's
a
small
percentage
of
your
overall
households
about
nine
percent
that
are
receiving
the
vast
majority
of
all
your
housing
and
re
your
homelessness
resources
and
investments.
We
have
to
really
target.
How
do
we
provide
a
level
of
support
that
actually
matches
their
needs,
and
so,
as
we
sort
of
think
about
this,
some
recommendations-
and
this
certainly
comes
from
the
insights
gleaned
by
the
work-
that's
happening
at
the
integrated
care
hub
and
the
benefit
of
really
looking
at.
D
It's
working
very
well
there's
an
acknowledgement
that,
in
terms
of
getting
people
on
to
the
by
name
prioritization
list,
the
assessment
teams
are
doing
fairly
well.
We
learned
an
awful
lot
during
2021
with
some
of
the
pilot
initiatives
that
that
team
did
having
drop-in
hours
where
people
who
may
be
transient
who
may
be
unsheltered
that
they
know
that
they
could
come
to
do
an
assessment
specific
days
specific
times
worked.
Well,
we
encourage
people
to
do
that.
D
The
centralized
waiting
list
activities
and
the
by
name
list
so
that
nobody
actually
gets
taken
off
that
centralized
waiting
list
for
social
and
community
housing
until
we've
tracked
them
down,
primarily
through
the
housing
and
homelessness
response
system
into
our
next
slide.
Here,
prevention
and
diversion
talked
about
this.
Targeting
of
these
resources
will
be
really
really
important.
D
We
acknowledge
the
fact
that,
in
terms
of
the
integrated
care
hub,
it
is
indeed
a
big
investment,
an
acknowledgement
that
if
there
was
a
dedicated
prevention
and
diversion
worker
or
ideally,
workers
who
could
actually
do
this
dedicated
housing
assistance
and
rapid
exit
out
of
homelessness
embedded
within
the
integrated
care
hub.
That
would
greatly
enhance
housing
outcomes.
D
We
also
talked
before
about
the
connection
between
discretionary
residency
benefits
and
homelessness
prevention
fund,
an
acknowledgement
that
as
much
as
we
would
you
know,
people
would
benefit
from
additional
dollars
if
it's
not
actually
targeting
the
most
vulnerable
households
that
will
likely
become
homeless.
If
we
don't
intervene,
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
your
finite
chippy
dollars,
your
provincial
dollars
for
homelessness
prevention
cannot
be
used
as
a
poverty
reduction
benefit.
It
has
to
be
targeted
next
slide.
D
D
Next
slide,
shelter
system
enhancement.
So
just
some
understanding
there
has
to
be
continued
focus
on
low
barrier.
Housing-Focused
approaches
cross-training
between
in
from
the
cold
and
integrated
care
hub
would
be
amazing
to
really
identify
how
this
type
of
sheltering
can
be
done
and
still
maintain
housing.
Focused
approaches,
there's
an
understanding
that
your
demand
for
housing
focus.
D
We're
certainly
recommending
joint
planning
process
with
shelter
management,
frontline
shelter,
staff,
former
shelter
users
in
the
city
to
co-create
a
vision
for
the
shelter
system
and
ensure
that
this
sector
has
shared
values,
shared
mandates,
shared
activities,
so
that
there's
consistency
in
the
interim.
The
addition
of
workers
within
the
integrated
care
hub
as
part
of
that
service
delivery
to
provide
prevention,
diversion
housing
navigation
was
identified
as
mandatory.
Currently,
even
though
housing
assistance
is
indeed
identified
as
part
of
the
integrated
care
hub
activities,
housing
assistance
delivered
on
site
is
minimal.
D
D
D
The
other
components
around.
This,
of
course,
is
just
this
opportunity
to
do
the
application
of
a
harm
reduction,
oriented
intensive
case
management
using
that
scattered
site
or
a
congregate
living
setting
that
we
talked
about
before.
But
these
folks
would
actually
be.
You
know,
moving
away
from
chronic
homelessness
and
a
harm
reduction
approach
and
all
tied
to
a
binding
list.
D
This
collaboration
was,
you,
know
further
complicated
by
the
global
pandemic,
but
an
acknowledgement
in
particular
that,
when
we're
looking
at
both
our
housed
and
our
homeless
individuals
that
are
currently
being
supported
by
your
housing
and
homelessness
system,
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
was
identified
by
every
single
program
was
the
challenge
around
cooperation
and
consistency
in
the
work
that
housing
workers
were
doing
with
mental
health.
Protect
professionals.
Sorry,
especially
as
they
tried
to
support
clients
who
had
community
treatment,
orders
an
acknowledgement
that
you
know
this
system
level.
B
E
F
So
then,
when
we,
the
plan,
is
to
take
the
information
that
tracy
presented
today
and
included
as
part
of
our
track
recommendations
that
we
had
already
shared
on
june.
10.,
come
back
to
committee
on
september,
with
some
system
review,
recommendations
and
implementation
plan.
So
really
the
the
document
is
just
outlining
that,
and
it
was
really
just
have
tracy
come
today
to
speak
to
what
she
did,
which
was,
as
you
mentioned,
very
comprehensive
and
very
informative.
So
that's
that's
the
extent
of
what
was
important.
G
I
just
kind
of
bit
scared
you
to
hear
what
mitchell
was
saying,
so
is
it
my
understanding
that
this
report
that
tracy
did
and
the
group,
which
I
find
very
very
interesting-
is
the
city
actually
going
to
adopt
all
of
these
recommendations
that
they
have
presented,
and,
if
so,
does
the
city
actually
have
a
timeline
for
each
of
these
recommendations
and
an
outline
of
who
they
will
be
looking
at
to
work
with
to
achieve
these
recommendations
as
well?
Thank
you.
H
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
andy
for
that
question
and
through
through
you,
madam
chair,
so
so
yeah
and
I
know
mitch
was
a
bit
choppy
in
on
with
this
mic,
so
I
think
he's
trying
to
figure
it
out,
but
we
so
yes,
as
part
of
the
september
9
reports
to
the
committee,
it
will
be
the
final
basic
list
of
recommendations
and
we
are
using
this
information
to
to
then
have
our
procurement
process
with
the
various
elements
of
the
homelessness
system,
with
these
various
recommendations.
H
So,
for
instance,
one
of
the
recommendations
is,
you
know
the
the
focus
on
on
princess
event
supplements
so
we're
working
we're
also
at
the
same
time,
working
obviously
on
our
operational
budgets
and
we're
looking
at
how
all
of
this
would
would
fit
and
and
what
potentially,
the
additional
asks
should
be
for
for
specific
areas.
In
of
these
recommendations,
I
will
be
honest.
I
cannot
speak
specifically
to
all
of
them
in
a
specific
timeline,
but
the
intent
of
this.
This
very
you
know
both
qualitative
and
quantitative.
H
Intense
review
process
over
the
last
six
to
eight
months
really
has
been
to
to
really
look
at
all
the
elements.
What's
going
well,
what's
work,
what's
working
well,
what's
not
working
well
and
how
can
we
use
our
both
our
pyramids
of
services
with
the
providers
that
we
fund,
or
or
or
you
know,
everybody
that
that
would
like
to
play
a
role
in
the
homelessness
system
will
will
have
a
chance
again
to
to
to
help
us
implement
those
recommendations?
B
G
G
Yeah
to
a
point
you
did
there
are.
This
is
the
first
time
I
believe,
we've
seen
the
slides.
I
would
have
liked
to
have
been
able
to
have
this
meeting
and
then
have
a
meeting
in
a
couple
of
weeks
so
that
we
could
actually
look
at
the
information
a
little
bit
more
in
depth,
so
that
if
anybody
does
have
any
ideas
or
concerns
are
able
to,
you
know,
come
together
again
and
present
the
the
questions
or
ideas.
It
seems
a
little
bit
rushed
because
obviously
we're
all
trying
to
process.
G
B
H
Apologies
for
the
technology
delay
here
I
will.
I
will
gladly
pass
it
over
to
to
mr
grange,
but
again
we
we
do
have
the
september
ninth
meeting
where
we
would
have
another
opportunity
would
have
another
opportunity
and,
in
the
meantime
again
we
welcome
any
additional
questions,
concerns
thoughts
so
again
to
counsel
neil's
request
and
I
apologize
that
we
were
not
able
to
send
this
in
advance,
but
again
really
welcome
the
opportunity
for
the
committee
to
to
use
either
the
time
before
september,
9
or
during
september
9.
H
So
I
know
it's
I
mean
there's
lots
that
needs
is
in
the
works,
but
there
are
more
opportunities
to
comment
to
to
share,
but
we
also
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
this
process
moving,
because
we
all
recognize
that
we
need
to
make
some
significant
changes
and
I
think
again
the
work
that
tracy
did
so
far
really
shows.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
were
already
identifying
in
a
more.
H
I
I
really
will
just
I
just
really
reiterate
what
with
miss
nordograf
said.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
clear
to
the
committee
that
the
intent
of
today's
meeting
was,
although
it
did
feel,
may
have
felt
a
bit
rushed
to
have
the
very
comprehensive
slide
deck
put
in
in
front
of
you
for
today's
meeting.
But
the
intent
is
to
to
kind
of
digest
that
get
that
shared
and
as
as
was
mentioned,
come
back
on
september
9th.
I
To
have
that
final
discussion
before
we
go
to
council
on
september
21st
for
the
full
for
a
recommendation
report
for
the
full
rec
implementation,
which
will
then
lead
into
the
procurement
process,
which
will
be
evaluated
and
brought
back
to
council
in
late
november
for
mid-november.
I
believe
for
decisions
which
will
lead
into
the
new
service
agreements
and
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
mentioned
today
implemented
at
start
of
the
new
year,
with
greater
accountability
held
towards
our
providers
and,
as
indicated
indicated
earlier
again
by
miss
nordograph.
I
B
Thank
you
very
much
miss
nortograph
and
mr
grange.
I
agree,
I
think,
having
the
fulsome
presentation
has
now
equipped
me
with
some
more
knowledge
and
resources
to
be
able
to
read
that
slide
deck
with
with
better
confidence.
So
thank
you,
everyone
for
that.
Are
there
any
other
questions
from
committee
members?
E
E
H
H
The
integrated
care
hub
is
obviously
been
initiated
for
a
couple
of
reasons
we
are
also,
and,
as
tracy
pointed
out
still
with
under
a
reality
of
of
covet
restrictions
and
and
limited
capacity
in
some
of
our
other
shelters
and
we're
really
seeing.
I
think
that
this
is
a
combination
between,
like
a
health
response,
a
harm
reduction,
a
safe
or
consumption
treatment
services.
H
So
I
know
we're
not
necessarily
counting
these.
The
the
overnight
stays
at
the
at
the
integrated
care
hub
shelter.
We
also
really
need
to
understand
what
what
the
what
the
next
couple
of
months
will
look
like
with
with
the
pandemic,
what
the
requirements
will
be
moving
forward,
and
then
there
definitely
are
people
accessing
the
integrated
care
hub
that
are
not
necessarily
homeless
or
or
may
not
need.
H
So
if
people
come
where,
depending
on
where
a
client
comes
in
for
service,
either
it's
treatment
through
street
outreach
or
through
the
integrated
care
hub
or
even
in
our
military
works
office,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
full
kind
of
pathway
in
place.
Of
course,
the
reality
is,
you
know,
affordable
housing
is
not
always
readily
available,
and
that
might
be
an
understatement.
J
H
H
H
It's
shown
us
a
lot
of
new
insights,
but
it
also
is
really
again
giving
bringing
up
those
really
important
questions
about
you
know:
barriers,
substance,
use
versus
not
not
substance,
use,
there's
a
lot
of
different
pieces
that
come
to
that
conversation
and
the
other
big
reality
is,
and
we
are
looking
at.
You
know
obviously
the
future
of
this,
but
this
has
been
funded.
Integrated
care
has
mainly
been
funded
through
provincial
covet
response
funding,
so
we
also
need
to
look
at
not
only
what
is
the
future
going
to
look
like?
H
E
I
I
The
one
specifically
that
was
addressed
in
tracy's
presentation
is
tied
to
the
investments
in
affordable
housing
and
provincial
funding,
which
is
expired
in
2021.
So,
in
order
to
extend
the
rent
supplement
porsche
subsidies
for
those
individuals,
we
were
able
to
tap
into
the
canada.
Ontario
housing
benefit
the
cobb
programs,
what
it's
called
in
order
to
extend
those
pro
those
rent
subs
for
an
additional
nine
years.
I
We
do
have
the
40
that
are
rem
that
are
expiring
in
2024
that
are
tied
to
a
separate
year
funding
of
iah,
but
we
know
now
through
through
tracy's
work
and
and
that
and
through
the
budget
deliberations
that
are
coming
up,
that
there'll
be.
There
is
a
need
to
find
funding
to
expand
on
that
programming.
In
order
to
make
you
know
the
housing
first
programming
work
and
and
be
highly
effective.
I
I
However,
they
are
there
currently,
as
as
a
as
kind
of
a
fallback
plan,
and
if
you
look
at
our
lilly's
place
our
families,
our
family
shelter
system,
we
have
been
utilizing
a
hotel
because
they
have
been
at
capacity
for
the
the
you
know
over
the
past
year
to
support.
In
that
case,
we
do
have
an
overflow
shelter
that
has
opened
up
to
support
the
shelter
capacity.
I
I
Right,
we
have
been
able
to
access
and
utilize
funding
through
the
social
services
relief
fund
to
assist
in
that
for
the
past
year
and
a
half
as
part
of
as
part
of
covet
response.
So
that
may
be
a
unique
year
to
to
look
back
to
see
if
funding
has
been
utilized
for
that.
But
I
wouldn't
have
that
answer
for
you
at
the
top
of
my
head
and
we
may
have.
E
What
rent
sucks
we're
talking
about?
Are
they
actually,
they
aren't
necessarily
tied
to
our
existing
social
housing,
stock
or
our
home,
but
we
can
actually
give
somebody
a
rents
up
that,
because
they've
found
a
place
to
live
and
the
what
rents
up
will
allow
them
to
move
into
that
private
landlords
property.
I
Yeah
that's
correct
through
the
housing
first
programming
that
would
that
would
be
the
they
would
be
connected
to
housing.
First
case
management,
housing
liaison
worker
would
assist
in
finding
them
private
or
or
a
location
throughout
the
city
where
the
rents
up
would
be
tied
to
that.
We
do
have
many
programs
through
rent
subs
that
are
attached
to
our
social
housing
through
the
housing
services
act
as
well,
but
in
terms
of
today's
discussion.
E
I
E
J
E
K
K
What
are
the
key
reasons
that
people
are
losing
their
housing,
because
I
think
that
will
tell
us
a
lot
and
especially
as
we
if
the
city
is
investing
in
housing
or
if
there's
opportunity
to
invest
in
more
supportive
transitional
housing?
What
should
that
housing
look
like,
and
I
think
so,
I'm
just
wondering
if
in
in
the
research,
if
any
of
that
came
out.
D
So,
with
your
permission,
madam
chair,
I
can
respond
to
that
in
terms
of
what
we
did
discover
in
the
research
when
you
think
about
nine
percent
of
all
the
people
that
were
served
over
the
seven
year
period,
actually
using
the
most
services
most
frequent
use
of
services.
There's
a
couple
of
things
to
keep
in
mind.
D
D
If
clients
are
unable
to
move
into
a
home,
then
higher
levels
of
vulnerability,
greater
street
entrenchment
homelessness
entrenchment
happens,
and
so,
when
you
sort
of
think
about
it,
it
has
to
be
a
focusing
on.
Let's
improve
affordability:
let's
improve
supportive
housing
access,
improve
transitional
living
access
for
people
who
may
need
to
stabilize
initially
before
they
can
move
into
more
of
an
independent
or
private
market
rental,
so
it
was
certainly
apparent
and-
and
that
was
also
identified
by
dr
marshall
as
well.
L
C
Madam
chair,
if
you
would,
through
you
that's
a
great
question
michelle
we
gave
or
code
the
information
regarding
the
hotel
stays
motel
stays,
because
that
information
is
that
when
individuals
aren't
just
going
to
a
motel
and
showing
up
they're
linked
through
the
shelter
system,
so
that
it's
a
housing,
focused
intervention
and
then
they're
attached
to
case
management
prevention
diversion
to
assist
them
while
they're
staying
in
the
hotel.
So
those
stats
are
being
implemented
and
input
into
this.
The
hypha
system
and
the
by
name
list
by
the
staff
working
with
individuals.
K
B
Okay,
if
there
aren't,
then
I'm
going
to
ask
miss
fawcett
to
help
me
identify
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
who
are
present
and
again,
I
will
note
that
members
of
the
public
can
speak
up
to
five
minutes
and
all
questions
will
be
answered
at
the
end
of
the
public
questions
and
comments.
Section
of
this
business
item.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
through
you.
I
do
see
that
we
already
have
one
hand
up,
but
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
do
have
10
members
of
the
public
present
with
us
at
this
time
as
well.
I
want
to
let
everyone
know
if
you
wish
to
speak
during
this
section.
We
do
rely
on
the
raise
hand,
function
in
zoom.
So
if
you
would
like
to
speak,
please
raise
your
hand.
A
B
L
B
B
B
B
A
I
Thank
you
for
the
question
or
the
comment
and
and
through
you,
madam
chair,
I
would
I
would
say
that
we
would
certainly
be
open
to
having
discussions
offline
if,
if
the
your
initial
questions
wanted
to
go
through
counselor
neil
to
myself
or
directly
to
myself,
that
would
we'd
be
happy
to
have
those
discussions,
so
I'm
not
sure,
maybe
through
page
with
counselor
neil.
As
I
indicate
it
could
come
through
to
to
my
email.
A
N
N
In
many
cases,
people
have
reported
that
when
they
are
evicted
there
are
it's
just
a
by-law
officer
there.
There
is
no
presence
of
anyone
from
home-based
housing
or
any
other
organizations
offering
additional
support
and
members
of
the
community
end
up
actually
losing
a
lot
of
their
possessions,
basically
anything
that
they
can't
remove
with
them
by
hand,
is
either
destroyed
or
taken
somewhere
and
people
don't
seem
to
have
access
to
then
reclaim
those
possessions
later
on.
N
A
lot
of
people
in
the
homeless
community
when
they're,
given
notice
of
an
eviction
simply
end
up
feeling
like
they
have
to
move
farther
back
into
wooded
areas
that
are
less
visible
and
that
takes
them
farther
away
from
access
to
services
and
care.
So
I'm
wondering
how
does
this
48
hour
eviction
policy
benefit
unhoused
people,
rather
than
simply
being
a
way
for
the
city
to
make
them
less
visible
to
the
public.
I
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
could
certainly
jump
in
and
speak
a
bit
to
the
protocol
and
and
and
the
the
question
or
the
concern
around
personal
items
or
or
the
lack
of
support
from
from
our
community
partners.
Certainly
the
the
expectation
and
what
we
are
seeing
is
that
and
is
that
street
outreach
or
funded
services
are
are
on
the
out
in
the
field
every
single
day,
with
outreach
to
individuals
who
may
be
camping
and
that's
in
support
with
with
bylaw
on
municipal
and
private
lands.
I
I
Many
other
departments
to
have
those
discussions
to
ensure
that
we
are
staying
on
top
of
of
trends
or
possible
ways
to
build
upon
the
encampment
to
support
those
individuals
as
well
as
working
on
storage
policy.
So
I'm
not
sure
director
nortograph
had
her
hand
up
if
she
wanted
to
add
to
that,
but
just
speaking
to
kind
of
the
policy
and
procedures
of
how
that
would
look,
we
are
working
through
that
that
piece.
So
thank
you.
H
Thank
you
and,
and
to
you,
madam
chair,
just
to
to
to
quickly
add
to
to
that.
The
encampment
protocol
was
established
earlier
this
year
in
april
and
council
finalized
or
approved
the
the
protocol,
as
as
proposed
prior
to
that
there
was
no
real
protocol
for
encampment,
so
it
did
give
various
partners
involved
more
more
direction
on
kind
of
steps
and
procedures.
H
We
also
have
the
ability
and
again
to
mr
grange's
points
like
we
are.
You
know
obviously
going
through
this
protocol
working
through
this
seeing
kind
of
the
obviously
that
the
challenges
I
will
say
the
reality
is
the
encampment
protocol
was
not
set
up
to
solve
homelessness
or
sold
encampments.
It
was
really
to
identify
a
procedure.
H
J
H
O
O
O
The
news
to
people
are
probably
well
aware
of
who
this
family
is,
and
speaking
of,
but
just
with
listening
to
the
counselors
speak
of
the
options
that
are
there,
the
ability
to
have
people
housed
in
motels
that
there's
overflow
for
these
family
shelters.
This
really
is
not
occurring
right
now.
I
can
speak
from
watching
this
family
go
through
the
experience
I
would
just
like
to
know
sort
of
who,
like
I
guess,
there's
a
few
things
here:
the
hotels
that
you
know,
people
there's
that
these
this
family
had
access
to.
O
It
was
full
of
bed
bugs.
It
was
not
clean,
especially
to
just
basic
standards,
let
alone
during
covid
the
city
paid
for
a
couple
nights
and
was
only
willing
to
pay
for
rooms
in
this
type
of
a
hotel,
not
anything
that
was
clean
and
that
anybody
in
their
right
mind
would
be
willing
to
have
their
children,
let
alone
you
and
I
move
into
there's
no
way
I
mean
I
wouldn't
personally,
and
I
wouldn't
with
my
family.
O
O
Right
now
for
the
summer
months,
which
has
now
got
cas
involved
which
has
been
you
know,
it
creates
a
larger
picture
and
you
guys
want
to
know
sort
of
what
starts
the
issues
with
homelessness.
It
is
it's
it's
not
always
cut
and
dry.
It's
not
one
thing.
It's
multiple
things
often
at
play
here,
especially
with
this
family
in
particular.
It's
just
sort
of
an
example,
but
who
do
these
people
find
access
to
these
services
through,
because
home-based
housing
is
not
helping,
they
basically
have
given
them
a
run
around.
They
don't
answer
them.
O
It's
been
very
unhelpful
to
them.
They're
they're,
not
really
pointing
them
with
you
know,
giving
them
any
options
with
viable
housing
options.
If
there
is
some
sort
of
funding
I
just
heard
at
the
end
with-
I
don't
understand-
maybe
I
I
don't
know
enough
about
it
and
I
apologize
if
I
don't,
but
that
there's
some
help
potentially
for
people
to
get
into
homes
that
you
know
may
be
out
of
their
reach.
This
family
is
on
odsp,
with
one
they're
receiving
income
for
one
parent.
O
That's
on
odsp,
the
other
parent
had
to
quit
working
to
care
for
the
child.
That
received
a
brain
injury
at
no
fault
of
her
own
from
surgeries
at
a
hospital
outside
of
our
area.
So
you
know
there's
this
family
has
slipped
through
the
cracks
and
there's
many
others
like
them.
It's
not
they're,
not
isolated,
they're,
not
alone,
and
I
just
think
if
the
city
is
going
to
talk
about
these
things
being
there,
they
need
to
be
accessible
to
people
and
they're.
Not
from
our
experience.
O
I
don't
want
I'm
sorry.
I
want
to
be
politically
correct
in
how
I
say
things,
and
I
struggle
with
that
with
my
cognitive
issues.
It's
not
a
certain
group
of
people.
It's
everybody
that's
being
affected
by
this.
I
guess
is
the
point
I'm
just
looking
to
see
like.
Is
there
actually
a
system
in
place
that
people
are
accountable
for
the
city
services
when
people
are
directed
and
there's
no
help
from
them
or
when
people
are
slipping
through
the
cracks
potentially.
H
Thank
you
and
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
this
situation
forward.
You
know
we
are
obviously
aware
of
the
story,
and
I
I
recognize
that
there
are
many
different
stories
like
this.
Unfortunately,
I
I
I
wish
I
would
be
able
to
give
you
the
perfect
answer,
and
I
know
that
this
is
this.
Is
we
we
get?
Many
different
situations
of
you
know
challenging
situations
that
are
that
are
created
not
by
no
different.
H
H
As
for
the
hotel
and
motel
conversation,
and
I
thought
it
came
up
earlier
today
as
well.
Ultimately,
our
role
as
a
city
with
our
purposes
we're
trying
to
find
hotels,
motels
that
are
willing
and
able
to
support
clients
and,
and
again
it's
really
important
that
there
is
also
then
the
ability
to
to
provide
services
to
those
clients,
while
they're
in
the
hotels.
H
H
H
I
cannot
give
you
the
perfect
answer
on
this
one,
but
I
think
we're
all
trying
the
best
we
can
with
the
services
we
currently
have
available
the
the
partners
that
are
both
private
and
and
not-for-profits
that
are
willing
to
support
again.
I
know
this
specific
situation
has
has
been
on
our
we've
received
multiple
questions
about
this.
We've
had
multiple
conversations
as
well
with
our
providers
to
understand
the
situation.
H
You
know
if
this
needs
to
be
an
offline
conversation
with
with
our
partner.
I
think
that
that's
potentially
a
better
way
forward,
but
overall,
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
that
we're
very
aware
of
some
of
the
very
complicated
situations
and
and
are
trying
our
best
to
be
supporting
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
miss
nardograph
and
I'll.
Just
if
I
can
just
quickly
say
to
amanda
mallory,
I
think
you
did
a
perfect
job
sharing.
I
know
you
were
worried
about
that.
You
spoke
about
an
important
issue
and
I
want
to
just
say
to
anybody
else
from
the
public
who's
with
us
today
or
watches
later
or
any
time.
B
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
through
you,
we
do
have
two
more
hands
raised.
However,
they
are
members
of
the
public
who
have
already
had
a
chance
to
speak
and
they
have
some
follow-up
questions
before
going
to
those.
If
you
would
like.
Madam
chair,
I
do
require
counselor
neil
to
return
to
his
screen
very
timely.
We
just
need
to
make
sure
that
everyone
remains
on
screen,
as
we
are
right
at
our
limit
for
quorum
just
so
that
the
committee
is
is
aware
of
that.
B
N
N
The
un
human
rights
coalition
last
year
made
recommendations
around
homeless
encampments,
saying
that
they'd
be
allowed
allowed
to
remain
in
place
during
the
pandemic,
and
I
feel
that
this
48-hour
eviction
policy
is
in
direct
conflict
with
that.
So
again,
I'm
wondering
how
this
policy
is
meant
to
actually
help
or
support
people
experiencing
homelessness
in
the
city.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
if
I
might
through
you
thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
There
has
been
a
bylaw
around
camping
on
municipal
land
for
for
quite
a
number
of
years
now,
and
the
the
current
bylaw
only
bylaw
officers
are
responding
to
complaints
only
at
this
point
in
time,
so
they're
not
out
looking
in
the
bushes
or
going
off
track
to
try
and
find
individuals
to
move
them
along.
They
are
working
on
a
complete
the
complaints
based
process.
C
A
O
You
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
I'll
keep
it
short.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
response
that
was
given
to
me
and
for
the
patience
that
I
was
shown.
I
also
just
wanted
it's
it's
similar
sort
of
statement
as
the
the
previous
speaker,
but
in
regards
to
sort
of
our
each
individual
comments
just
that
it's
it's
frustrating.
O
So
you
know,
if
that's
where
I
had
asked
about
the
accountability
part,
but
I
would
be
happy
to
speak
about
this
further
offline
as
well,
and
just
it
may
be
not
even
as
a
in
a
specific
to
that
family,
but
in
a
general
sort
of
situation,
because
if
they're
encountering
this
there's,
obviously
others
that
are
as
well.
So
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
take
this
offline
as
well
as
you
had
sort
of
mentioned.
But
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
B
B
I
I
And
secondly,
the
second
part
of
the
question
I
believe
it
was
stated
earlier
in
the
presentation
that
currently
we
do
have
a
179
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
from
within
our
community,
and
I
believe
it
was
asking
how
many
affordable
housing
units
will
be
coming
online
in
the
next
year.
Is
that
correct.
I
I
Kingston
front,
like
housing
is
27
right
crescent,
where
there'll
be
40
units
coming
on
board
early
next
year,
I
would
say,
with
23
of
those
being
affordable
with
1316
1318
princess
street.
Again,
it's
a
partnership
are
two
separate
buildings.
One
kingston
front
like
housing
corporation,
the
other
kingston
cooperative
homes,
there'll
be
90,
affordable,
housing
units
split
between
those
buildings
that
they
will
not
be
online
in
2021,
or
it's
unlikely,
maybe
later
towards
the
year
end
of
the
year.
44
albert
street.
I
I
We
have
13
113
lower
union
street,
which
will
be
coming
online,
hopefully
towards
the
end
of
this
year
for
19,
supportive,
indigenous
supportive
housing
units
and
then
we've
dutch.
That's
an
acquisition
that
the
city
made
last
year
and
that's
a
partnership
with
with
tippy
moza
urban
native
housing
cooperation,
our
sorry
corporation
and
then
lastly,
would
be
805.
Ridley
drive,
which
we've
acquired,
which
is
currently
being
used
for
temporary
shelter
for
the
the
west
wing,
is
being
used
for
the
kingston
youth
shelter.
I
But
there
are
plans
in
hopes
to
expand
on
that
footprint
and
get
the
east
wing
of
that
building
up
and
functional
for
some
form
of
supportive
housing
within
the
next
year
and
that
all
ties
in
as
part
of
tracy's
presentation
at
the
beginning,
where
she
spoke
to
the
rapid
housing
initiative
and
the
7.4
million
dollars
that
were
allocated
to
the
city
under
this
under
the
municipal
stream.
So
tight
timelines
to
get
something
occupied
within
12
months.
So
we've
identified
a
short
list
of
of
properties
that
can
accommodate
that.
B
B
P
P
I
I
I
The
rgi
program
is
is
a
program
in
itself
where
you
it's,
you
cannot
just
enter
and
offer
rgi
units
there's
affordable
housing
which
can
be
lowered
to
affordable
rates,
60
of
cmhc
80
even
lower.
If
you
can
make
your
finances
work
for
the
viability
of
a
build,
but
in
terms
of
traditional
rgi
units,
we
are
awaiting
some
legislation,
changes
from
the
provincial
government.
I
It's
bill,
184,
strengthening
communities
and
I'll,
probably
get
it
wrong.
I
apologize,
but
it's
bill
184
and
what
they
will
be
looking
at
is
looking
to
expand
on
the
rgi
program
and
have
it
entice
private
developers
and
private
landlords
to
enter
the
system,
as
well
as
giving
the
option
for
providers
who
are
currently
offering
rgi
to
exit
the
system.
So
currently,
the
housing
services
act
mandates
that
they
must
maintain
and
offer
rgi
units,
but
bill
184
when
the
regulations
come
into
effect,
which
we
do
anticipate
to
be
in
2022.
I
H
Thank
you
and
through
you,
madam
chair,
I'm
happy
to
jump
on
that
one
because
I
know,
there's
always
a
lot
of
conversation
about
rgi
and
affordable
housing
and
supportive
housing
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
different
kind
of
types
of
programs
and
initiatives
across
the
housing
continuum.
So
it
certainly
is
a
minimum.
So
we
are
legislated
to
have
a
minimum
of
2003,
affordable
housing.
That's
right!
So
now
I'm
doing
it
rgi
units.
H
So
the
one
thing,
though,
and
in
addition
to
to
the
great
explanation
that
mr
grange
has
provided
the
the
cost
for
rgi
units
are,
are
mainly
municipal
so
and
we're
just
you
know,
preparing
for
our
2022
operating
budget
and-
and
maybe
some
of
you,
I
think,
miss
white
was
actually
at
the
budget
engagement
session.
I
believe
a
few
weeks
ago
the
the
reality
of
rgi
units
is
that
they're,
especially
when
they're
bricks
and
mortar.
They
are
quite
quite
expensive.
H
H
A
B
Okay,
great,
so
we
will
move
on
from
there.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
your
questions
and
as
well
to
our
staff.
Thank
you
for
your
responses.
So
we'll
move
forward
now
to
item
eight
motions.
So
from
the
committee
there
are
no
motions
listed
on
the
agenda.
We'll
move
over
to
number
nine
notices,
motions
there
are
no
notices
and
motions
listed
on
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
intents
to
bring
forward
emotion
at
the
next
meeting.
B
No
we'll
move
over
to
other
business.
We
do
have
the
one
other
business
that
I
had
added
earlier
in
our
agenda,
which
is
just
myself
and
my
announcement.
So
over
the
past
few
weeks
there
have
been
increased
reports
in
the
media
regarding
the
operations
of
the
kingston
frontenac
housing
corporation,
and
some
committee
members
have
expressed
a
desire
to
receive
more
information
on
the
issues
that
have
been
raised.
B
B
Thank
you
for
that
correspondence
and
the
date
of
our
next
meeting
for
this
housing
and
homelessness
advisory
committee
will
be
thursday
september
9th
2021
at
1
pm,
and
we
then
will
move
into
a
german.
Can
I
have
a
first
to
adjourn.
Thank
you,
ms
mccarty.
Second,
please
miss
everett.
Thank
you
and
all
in
favor.