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Housing and Homelessness Advisory Committee meeting from July 8, 2020. For full agenda details, visit https://bit.ly/3ou8fUf
B
B
Comment
before
we
move
into
the
move
into
the
actual
agenda,
Ruth
nor
graph,
of
course,
is
not
with
us
today
and
on
behalf
of
the
of
the
committee
I'd
like
to
to
extend
our
condolences
to
Ruth
and
and
her
family
on.
The
passing
of
her
dad
I
believe
on
on
the
30th
of
June
and
Ruth
is
is
currently
with
her
family
in
Europe,
and
our
thoughts
are
obviously
with
Ruth.
B
A
B
B
B
Then
we'll
move
on
and
I
don't
believe
well,
I
I
can
I
can
never.
I
can
never
figure
out
the
difference
between
briefings
in
business,
but
I
don't
see
any
any
briefings
on
the
agenda.
So
we'll
move
due
to
business,
which
is
the
the
first
one.
Is
the
report
from
staff
on
on
the
responses
to
to
Cove
at
19.
B
Obviously,
since
we've
met
last
everybody's
world
has
changed
and
and
and
there's
clearly
no
manual
to
to
figure
out
how
we
navigate
this.
So
the
staff
have
have
put
together
a
briefing.
That's
in
your.
That,
obviously,
is
in
your
package
and
I'll
ask
Mitch,
Mitch
and
Joanne.
If,
if
you
could
give
us,
perhaps
an
overview
of
of
the
the
response
and
then
we'll
open
it
for
for
questions.
C
We
have
a
response
phase,
a
reopen
phase
and
our
renew
phase
going
into
2021,
so
just
going
over
those
three
sections
briefly
for
you.
If
you
look
at
the
phase
one
so
I
get
first
of
all
saying
you
know
mid-march,
when
this
all
happened,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
are
working
closely
with
all
of
our
community
partners
and
our
funded
service
providers
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
coordinated
response
to
to
the
covin
pandemic
I'm.
Certainly,
it's
placed
new
demands
on
our
housing
and
homelessness
system
in
our
operations.
C
C
The
major
component
to
that
is,
is
the
our
funded
shelters,
really
they've
all
been
in
a
communal
setting
with
with
bunk
beds
and
and
not
a
lot
of
space
to
self
isolate
or
physical
assistance.
So
one
of
the
first
things
we
did
is
we
worked
in
partnership
with
our
real
estate
department
and
and
in
sawed
outs,
the
two
vacant
retirement
homes
in
the
East
and
Fairfield
East
and
Fairfield
post
as
well
as
worked
with
a
service
providers
released
at
the
time
we
were
releasing
the
lower
union
113
lower
union
property
downtown.
C
So
what
that
data
is
is
the
in
from
the
cold
adult
shelter
went
out
to
the
East
End
at
670,
McLean
Court,
things
in
youth,
shelter
went
to
the
downtown
core
to
113,
lower
Union
and
what
that
did
for
those
two?
Is
it
really
allowed
them
to
have
their
their
clients
practice
physical
distancing
by
providing
their
own
room
with
two
and
three-piece
baths
respectfully
in
those
in
those
in
those
buildings
and
really
has
been
received
well
by
the
individuals
who
have
been
able
to
access
those
services?
C
That
model
was
very
effective.
There
was
not
a
lot
of
cases
referred
there
just
due
to
the
limited
numbers
that
we
were
seeing
in
Kingston.
At
the
time
we
did
see.
23
individuals
go
through
that
sted
system
and
they
were
connected.
All
individuals
were
connected
to
services,
one
newer
within
the
self
isolation
centre.
C
At
the
end
of
May,
we
are
releasing
a
large
facility
for
limited
numbers.
They
transitioned
out
of
that
facility
and
we
move
them
into
113,
lower
Union
Street
to
the
upper
level
of
that
facility,
with
the
Kingston
youth
shelter
still
operating
on
the
lower
level
for
the
offense,
and
that
is
that
is
still
where
we
are
at
now.
C
Certainly,
in
addition
to
that,
I'd
mentioned
that
we
as
part
of
the
phase
one
we
enhanced
our
outreach
services
to
support
the
level
of
care
needed
within
the
community
in
partnership
with
our
external
partners.
We've
put
out
portable
toilets
at
artillery
part
in
Bell
Park,
Montreal's,
362,
Montreal
Martha's
table
as
well
as
in
from
the
cold.
The
space
of
540
Montreal
Street
has
been
open
on
occasion
for
individuals
to
use
as
kind
of
a
daytime
hygiene
space.
C
Certainly
that
leads
into
that's
part
of
phase
one.
We
know
that
it's
been
very
public
and,
of
course,
last
name
so
there's
decision
made
on
what's
been
happening
at
Bell
Park,
so
currently,
I
think
what
we
could
say
to
that
at
the
beginning.
We
knew
that
there
was.
There
was
individuals
camping
throughout
the
throughout
the
community
and
then
under
the
direction
of
Co
hurdle.
C
So
horrors
and
kc
HC
are
working
in
partnership
to
provide
those
services
and
they're
really
working
on
a
really
supportive
model
in
life.
Stabilization
with
five
core
pillars
of
harm
reduction,
trauma
and
violence,
informed
care,
stabilization,
wellness
and
cultural
safety,
so
they
are
actually
currently
engaging
with
the
individuals
at
the
encampment
early
and
using
and
working
with
them
to
build
the
programming.
Let
shall
take
place
starting
July
20th.
C
So
that's
that's.
A
quick
long-winded
update
on
the
homeless
service
it'd
be
happy
to
address
questions,
maybe
at
a
later
point,
if
I
can
just
fund
the
community
housing
piece
of
phase
one
which
we
not
as
greatly
impacted,
we
had
concerns
on
the
on
the
community
housing
front
of
mental
arrears,
health
and
safety
of
individuals
within
within
the
buildings.
C
We
have
set
up
weekly
updates
with
our
providers,
just
as
a
check
embassy,
where
they're
at
how
we
can
assist
them
with
their
with
the
buildings
and
sourcing
personal
protective
equipment,
and
really
just
to
keep
that
dialogue
open
for
any
concerns.
You
know
that
there's
they've
shut
down
their
common
rooms,
there's
processes
in
place
for
their
elevators
staffs
or
work
staff,
we're
in
now
wearing
masks
to
give
any
sort
of
maintenance
and
we've
continued
that
dialogue
with
them.
C
B
D
Okay,
I
have
two
questions
for
you
and
the
first
is
you
mentioned
quite
quickly
at
the
end
of
describing
phase
one
that
the
city
is
continuing
to
find
housing
for
the
homeless
population.
Could
you
elaborate
on
on
how
that
is
you?
You
got
into
great
detail
about
all
the
community
partnerships
with
with
different
kinds
of
support
for
the
population,
but
exactly
how
is
the
city
going
about
finding
sustainable
housing
for
this
population
and
I,
just
as
a
two-part
question?
D
My
second
question
is
I,
hear
that
the
the
this
might
be
anecdotal
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
the
population
there
has
been
increasing.
So
even
though
the
city
did
find
some
successful
housing
for
some
people
who
were
living
down
at
Bell,
Park,
there's
actually
more
people
there
now
than
there
was
even
a
few
weeks
ago.
I
think.
Could
you
speak
to
those
two
questions.
Please.
E
Led
it's
Joanne
from
Social
Services
I
can
absolutely
the
first
question
around
finding
housing.
We
don't
offer
housing,
support,
services,
I
sure,
I'm,
sure
you
all
understand
on
a
front-line
basis
through
the
city,
but
we
do
work
with
a
number
of
community
partners
whose
role
it
is
to
ensure
that
individuals
are
found
safe
housing.
E
So
to
that
end,
what
we
have
been
able
to
do
is
express
the
need
for
our
community
partners
to
really
really
ramp
up
their
housing
first
programs,
and
during
this
time
it
has
definitely
been
challenging
when
a
lot
of
individuals
are
acting,
either
being
evicted
and
or
leaving
units
to
find
available
units.
So
to
date
there
have
been
between
approximately
six
to
eight
individuals
that
we
are
well
aware
of
that
have
found
permanent
housing
that
has
been
through
their
own
efforts.
They
certainly
have
been
putting
a
lot
of
effort
in
themselves.
E
Advocates
that
have
been
going
down
to
Bell
Park
have
been
also
trying
to
assist
them
with
that
piece
and
they've
had
home
base
housing
street
outreach
services
going
down.
We
have
had
home
base
assessment
and
housing.
First
teams
going
on-site
to
meet
with
individuals
to
have
them
become
a
part
of
a
housing
first
program
so
that
they
can
then
start
to
work
on
both
their
financial
ability
to
obtain
housing,
but
then
also
their
readiness
to
maintain
and
sustain
housing,
and
that
has
occurred
for
certain
individuals
we
okay
take
with
that.
E
We
had
about
13
people
who
chose
to
be
part
of
that
initiative,
and
so
in
attempting
to
find
housing
for
those
individuals
who
are
looking
for
housing,
we
have
absolutely
utilized.
Our
community
supports
to
their
greatest
advantage
to
do
that
and
are
currently
requesting
updates
from
them
with
respect
to
how
that's
going
a.m.
HS,
actually
for
three
individuals
who
were
staying
at
the
isolation
center
were
able
to
find
housing
for
those
individuals,
and
they
left
not
going
back
to
Bella
park
by
actually
going
into
housing
from
that
location,
which
was
wonderful.
E
One
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
doing
with
the
new
drop-in
center
is
obviously
expanding.
Those
supports
to
ensure
that
people
are
stabilized
so
that
long-term
housing
is
a
more
realistic
option
for
them,
so
that
when
we
are
working
with
them
to
be
able
to
find
housing,
they
feel
that
they're
in
a
place
where
they
can
maintain
that
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
the
campers
that
they
have
had
housing
in
the
past
and
they've
had
housing
through
housing
first
programs
and
supports
the
challenge
really
for
them
has
been
maintaining
that
housing.
E
So
it's
not
as
if
any
all
of
these
individuals
have
been
chronically
homeless.
In
fact,
we
know
that
a
lot
of
them
have
housing
potentially
to
go
to,
or
some
actually
are
very
vocal
that
they
do
not
want
to
find
housing
and
that
that
is
their
choice.
So
we're
utilizing
all
of
our
community
supports
and
partners
to
work
towards
helping
those
who
are
looking
to
find
housing,
find
housing.
So
I
hope
that
helps
answer
that
part.
The
second
part
is
how
to
finish
the
second
part.
E
So
the
second
part
is
that
the
numbers
at
Bell
Park
have
actually
reduced
over
the
last
few
weeks
and
reduced
quite
significantly.
I
suggest
that
we
are
potentially
half
the
capacity
we
were
at
two
weeks
ago,
which
is
clearly
good
news
for
all
of
us.
We
are
now
at
approximately
23
individuals.
I
did
I
had
to
come
out
to
23
when
I
was
there
on
Monday,
and
there
were
about
two
weeks
ago,
between
40
and
45
individuals
at
any
given
time
staying
there.
So,
where.
E
Have
gone
for
those
who
have
found
housing?
That's
wonderful!
We've
been
again
attempting
to
get
some
of
those
they're
individuals
who
are
currently
staying
at
Bell,
Park
to
access
our
shelter
services
and
supports
and
we're
also
working
with
them
through
mental
health
supports
primary
care
all
of
those
pieces,
and
a
number
of
people
have
been
able.
E
E
That's
a
great
question
and
the
reality
is
that
I
would
probably
be
a
better
answer
if
I
line
on
but
I
think
that
is
a
really
difficult
question
to
answer
in
that
I
know
that
there's
we're
not
necessarily
interested
in
finding
housing.
So
how
successful
can
we
be
in
and
find
them
housing
or
or
suggesting
that
big
that
housing
I
don't
know?
We
certainly
are
continuing
with
a
sort
of
engagement
to
ensure
that
individuals
know
that
there
are
options
we
are
working
towards
for
them.
E
But
again
we
cannot
force
individuals
into
housing
should
they
decide
not
to.
We
know
that
there
are
still
challenges
for
COBIT
at
this
point
in
time.
A
lot
of
landlords
are
putting
people
into
buildings
for
viewings,
and
we
also
know
that
we're
working
with
an
incredibly
high
acuity
population
at
Bell
Park,
with
persistent
to
pervasive
mental
health
and
addictions
issues
until
finding
them
housing
is
not,
as
is
handing
them
a
set
of
keys.
E
Unfortunately,
and
wishing
them
the
best
of
luck,
there's
a
lot
of
variables
for
those
individuals
and
also
for
the
service
providers
that
work
very
closely
with
them
and
making
and
assisting
them
with
maintaining
that
housing.
So
is
it
realistic
that
we
will
have
more
individuals
housed
absolutely,
but
it
certainly
it's
dependent
on
both
on
a
number
of
variables,
such
as
the
current
market
pandemic
and
most
certainly
the
individual's
willingness
to
engage
with
eyes
and
with
the
service
providers
to
be
able
to
find
housing.
Also.
H
You
mr.
chair
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
this
that
you
know,
Joanne
talked
about
individual
needs
and
whether
or
not
people
are
ready
to
be
housed
in
the
challenge.
Sometimes
it's
not
just
finding
an
apartment
and
giving
it
some
keys.
Saying
yours,
here's
a
space,
it's
about
the
supportive
services
and
understanding
that
a
number
of
individuals
do
you
need
supportive
housing,
which
is
a
different
type
of
housing,
of
course,
than
just
finding
an
apartment.
H
It's
a
lot
more
engaged,
and
sometimes
you
know
the
population
that
we're
working
with
doesn't
need
that
supportive
housing
on
a
daily
basis.
It's
not
something
where
your
counselor
drops
in
a
couple
of
times
a
week
just
to
check
up
and
see
how
things
are
going
so
I
think
that
one
has
been
a
challenge.
H
Supportive
housing,
especially
as
it
relates
to
mental
health,
has
been
provided
and
is
supposed
to
be
provided
through
provincial
funding,
and
this
is
why
we've
been
also
having
conversation
with
addictions
and
recently
the
Lyn,
as
well
as
a
ministry,
to
talk
about
this
challenge
and
see
how
we
could
come.
How
can
we
come
together
to
make
more
supportive
housing
available
and
make
sure
that
the
services
are
there
to
support
people.
H
C
B
F
Ahead
Jackie,
thank
you.
City
of
Kingston
has
been
very
responsive
now
towards
tackling
some
progress
here
and
I'm,
just
wondering
for
our
shelters.
We
haven't
spoken
a
lot
about
what
the
numbers
are
like.
There
are
we
kind
of
forecasting
that
numbers
are
going
down
as
well,
these
shelters
that
that
we've
got
now
at
the
East,
End
and
lower
Union
and
so
on.
What
are
our
numbers
like
there?
C
C
B
D
Sorry
I
get
prompted
a
little
late
to
unmute.
Just
one
more
question
about
city
regulations.
I
know
that
the
the
Bell
Park
population
has
been
given
temporary
permission
to
be
where
they
are
so
it's
sort
of
just
a
sort
of
temporary
hold
of
what
our
regular
regulations
would
normally
be.
Are
there
any
other
regulations
in
the
city
that
are
on
hold
or
that
have
been
changed
to
help
the
homeless
population
get
ahead?.
C
H
A
A
G
I
wonder
if
we
could
hear
a
little
bit
more,
it
seems
so
counterintuitive
for
anyone
who
sees
a
tent
and
sees
homeless
people.
Our
reaction
is
always
we
need
to
find
your
housing,
but
we
hear
that
there's
a
segment
of
the
population
for
whom
they
don't
see
housing
as
part
of
this
solution.
So
what
do
they
actually
see?
E
E
They
could
be
determined
to
be
incredibly
traumatic
or
have
led
to
certain
ethics
such
as
drug
use,
which
has
become
an
addiction
what
you're
living
with
very
low
income
to
begin.
You
are
now
physically
dependent
on
a
substance
in
order
to
to
survive
a
aside
from
having
a
potentially
concurrent
disorders
or
mental
illness.
Of
some
type
or
a
developmental
delay,
priorities
changed
quite
drastically
and
dramatically
moment
to
moment
and
your
your
actual
physiological
need
for
in
that
substance.
E
E
Understand
is
that
people
are
some
need
to
speak
for
everybody,
but
some
individuals
are
trying
to
how
to
survive
through
their
their
own
trauma
and
life
and
as
a
result,
in
this
type
of
situation,
which
then
means
that
service
providers
are
tasked
with
working
with
each
individual
based
on
their
set
of
circumstances
and
meeting
them
where
they
are
to
make
the
best
that
client
for
their
future.
So
it's
credibly
it's
incredibly
difficult
to
answer
why
each
individual
is
there.
E
They
all
have
their
own
set
of
reason
and
they
are
completely
valid
to
those
individuals
and
some
don't.
Some
are
are
quite
frankly
there,
because
it
is
a
social
community.
So
everybody
has
a
very
different
reason
for
being.
Riders
are
trying
to
take
that
into
account
as
they
work
with
each
individual
towards
a
more
permanent
solution.
I'm,
sorry.
G
Yeah,
no
thank
you
that
really
did
help
quite
a
bit
of
it.
I
also
want
to
just
thank
you.
Joanna
I
think
you've
been
put
in
a
very
difficult
situation
and
you're
doing
an
amazing
job
and
I'm
really
glad
that
you
have
the
support
of
the
other
agencies
because
yeah,
it's
not
easy.
It's
not
easy
for
anyone
and
and
I
really
appreciate
all
of
the
hard
work
that
all
of
you
guys
are
doing
in
the
on
the
front
line.
So
thank
you
very
much.
It.
E
J
J
Who
knows
what
they
actually
do
want
I
mean
they
probably
don't
know
themselves,
but
it
will
be
really
difficult
to
shift
them
from
Bell
Park.
One
idea
that
I've
seen
done
in
a
number
of
countries
is
the
building
of
well
some
versions
of
tiring
houses
so
that
they
can
be.
You
know
alone,
but
perhaps
in
community
I
have
no
idea
of
that
viable
or
not.
I
know
there
is
entry
property
at
the
back
of
Montreal
suits
Social
Services
that
is
close
to
capacity.
J
C
Thank
You
Francesca
fear
for
your
comments
can
concern
we're
certainly
aware
of
the
tiny
home
option
or
that
proposal
and
we're.
We
have
been
looking
into
other
municipalities
who
have
looked
at
that,
as
maybe
not
a
municipality
but
happening
within
that
urban
center,
through
a
source
of
funding
or
donated
land
or
land
which
has
served
and
supports
some
encampments.
So
we
are
aware
of
it
and
are
looking
into
it.
So
thank
you.
C
F
C
Would
like
touch
on
for
phase
two.
Is
that
certainly
a
main
component
of
that
is
the
continuing
our
efforts
with
the
Bell
Park
efforts
in
relocation
to
torch,
Fleury
Park
and
ensuring
that
those
those
programming's
the
program
will
be
in
place
to
provide
a
effective
support
for
those
individuals
as
well.
C
So
that's
really
a
major
component
of
the
Phase
two
leading
into
Phase
three
relating
to
homelessness
and
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
lose
track
of
the
community
housing.
So,
just
briefly
as
well,
we
will
continue
on
the
community
housing
front
to
work
with
our
providers
and
and
understand
their
needs
moving
forward
and
make
sure
they
become
stabilized
and
are
able
to
ramp
back
up
their
programming
and
community
rooms
and
and
also
look
back
to.
C
We
have
provincial
funding
that
will
focus
on
through
the
Canada
Ontario
community
housing
initiative,
which
we
will
work
with
them,
which
is
the
capital
investment
program
which
has
been
on
hold.
That
will
go
towards
the
improvement
of
Aging
social
housing
stock.
So
we
will
bring
those
discussions
back
to
them
and
focus
on
getting
some
improvements
on
the
existing
social
housing
stuff
within
the
city.
D
Just
have
one
one
more
question:
it's
quite
specific,
but
just
in
terms
of
barriers
to
housing.
Oh
sorry,
my
camera
in
terms
of
barriers
to
housing,
I
am
currently
on
the
market
for
another
place
to
live
in
the
Kingston
area,
and
one
of
the
barriers
I'm
experiencing
is
the
pre-screening
required
by
landlords.
So
a
lot
of
people
are
requiring
you
to
not
only
own
an
electronic
device
to
find
the
listing
and
talk
to
them.
But
then
they
want
you
to
invest
about
half
an
hour
into
filling
out
a
pre-screening
form.
D
A
lot
of
them
are
really
invasive.
Some
of
them
are
through
the
neighborly
app,
which
this
committee
has
talked
about
before
and
Bridgette
Dougherty
had
a
conversation
with
legal
aid
and
they
determined
that
neighborly
is
too
invasive.
It
breaks
some
of
our
laws
here,
but
landlords
don't
seem
to
know
that
and
there's
no
streamlined
way
like
I
can't
fill
out
one
pre-screen
form
and
then
just
give
it
to
every
landlord.
Every
single
time
there
I
spent
hours
of
my
day
filling
these
things
out
just
to
get
to
meet
someone
and
see
a
place.
D
D
They
are
so
I'm
just
wondering
in
terms
of
barriers
to
housing,
I'm
coming
up
against
this
again
and
again
and
again
right
now,
I've
never
seen
the
housing
market
like
this
before
in
Kingston,
but
the
problem
is
rampant
and
I'm
wondering
if
the
city
would
maybe
consider
doing
two
things
one
could
we
do
a
press
release,
letting
people
know
what
is
and
isn't
illegal
pre-screen
and
two
I
suggest?
Maybe
the
city
provide
a
pre
Scream
form
for
landlords
to
use
if
somebody's
already
filled
it
at
once,
they
can.
D
C
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
yes
thank
you
melody,
and
certainly
we've
heard
your
we've
heard
the
concerns
shared
with
us
before
it
certainly
speaks
to
a
larger
system
issue,
certainly,
and
from
our
perspective,
where
we
are
we're
mandated
to
provide
direction
under
the
Housing
Services
Act
to
our
social
housing
providers.
What
you're
indicating
is,
is
you
know,
relating
to
private
landlords
and
the
Residential
Tenancies
Act
and
the
legalities
that
are
associated
with
them
as
private
landlords.
C
I,
don't
feel
that
we
would
be
in
a
position
to
speak
to
that
legally,
but
certainly
your
concerns
are
heard
and
we
will
continue
to
provide
any
sort
of
direction
or
that
we
can
I
know
there's
other
bills
that
are
coming
out.
Bill
184
has
been
tabled
and
concerns
with
that
as
well
and
and
we'll
be
doing
our
part
to
provide
any
sort
of
direction
back
to
the
ministry
as
it
relates
to
the
Housing
Services
Act,
larger
Residential
Tenancies
access
question
more
aware
of.
But
we
can't
comment
on
formally.
H
You
mr.
chair,
so
I
we'll
tell
you
that
I
I
don't
know
all
the
details,
but
I'm
I'm
happy
to
connect
with
our
our
legal
team.
Internally
I
know
we
had
one
of
our
lawyer
that
was
doing
support
in
regards
to
requirements
for
for
tenants,
and
we
have
been
working
with
Landlord
associations,
for
example,
as
we
have
recently
done
a
lot
of
work
on
short-term
rental
and
licensing.
So
we
have
some
some
good
connections
there.
Let
me
see
what
we
can
do
and
we'll
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
the
committee.
H
B
G
Just
wanted
to
add
that
the
Kingston
community
legal
clinic
John
done
their
main
lawyer
early
lawyer.
He
would
be
a
great
person
to
connect
with,
and
he
may
be
open
to.
You
know
help
release
a
like
read
a
press
release
to
educate
tenens
like
you
were
suggesting
so
John
done
I'd
be
happy
to
connect
you
with
them.
So
it's
a
minute,
quick,
email
and
and
I
can
make
that
connection.
Thanks.
C
G
And
melody
you
raise
something
else
and
that's
the
lack
of
technology.
The
beginning,
you
said
you
have
to
have
a
phone
to
even
reach
out
to
to
to
landlords.
So
in
any
kind
of
outreach
and
letting
people
know
what
kind
of
rights
that
they
have.
We
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
not
everybody
has
technology
and
I,
don't
even
know
where
do
people
go
if
they
don't
have
any
technology
to
find
housing
their
pets?
As
who
have
we
discussed
that
in
the
past.
B
That's
a
that's
a
good
question:
I'm,
not
sure
we
have
an
answer
to
it
at
this
point,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
growing
list
of
things
that
we
might
want
to
as
a
committee
look
at
and
and
make
potentially
make
recommendations
due
to
council
and
I
I.
Think!
That's!
That's!
That's!
No
doubt
one
of
them
that
we
should
be
heading
to
our
to
our
lister
to
consider.
E
Hi
Johanna
again
from
the
city,
maybe
I,
can
help
with
answering
that.
So
we
do
recognize
that
for
a
lot
of
individuals,
the
housing
search
has
been
inhibited
in
a
barrier
has
been
technology,
so
our
outreach
teams
that
are
going
on-site
and
meeting
with
individuals
either
at
shelter
locations
or
at
Bell,
Park
or
anywhere
else.
They
do
bring
a
phone
so
that
those
who
might
need
to
be
able
to
like
that,
have
the
ability
to
do
so.
E
I
DIF
that
the
shelters
do
have
phones
within
them
where
people
are
staying
there,
they
can
use
those
and
the
housing
Help
Center
is
always
willing
to
have
people
go
into
that
location
in
order
to
be
able
to
utilize
their
technology
and
their
phones
as
a
way
to
be
able
to
look
as
well,
and
also
one
group
has
that
for
youth
is
also
so.
You
know,
we've
really
been.
B
B
You
know
I
I
will
personally
say
guilty
as
charged
in
terms
of
of
forgetting
the
housing
part,
and
so
so,
as
we
discuss
the
the
the
thing
about
technology
and
and
actually
the
whole
question
of
addictions.
That
I
think
Jackie
you
brought
up
earlier
are
are
things
that
they're
going
forward
we
need
to.
We
need
to
be
looking
at
so
I
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
for
putting
this
together,
because
it
it
really
I
think
well
as
we
go
down.
A
Mr.
chair,
we
do
have
one
member
of
the
public
in
attendance,
so
perhaps
at
this
time,
if
there's
no
more
questions
from
the
committee,
we
will
see
if
there's
any
public
comments.
Excellent.
Thank
you
so
just
to
the
member
of
the
public
in
attendance.
If
you
do
wish
to
make
a
comment
or
ask
question,
we
just
need
you
to
use
the
raise
hand
function.
So
if
you
click
on
the
participants,
tab
at
the
bottom
of
zoom,
that'll
open
up
a
list
of
names
and
then
you
will
have
the
raise
hand
button.
A
So
we
do
have
the
hand
raised
mr.
chair,
so
I
will
now
bring
the
member
of
the
public
in
and
allow
them
their
opportunity.
So
I'll
just
remind
them
that
you
have
excuse
me
up
to
five
minutes
to
make
comments
and
ask
questions
and
when
just
make
your
comments
and
then
staff
are
in
questions
and
staff
will
respond,
so
go
ahead.
I
believe
is
Jane.
Thank
you.
I
Hello,
thank
you.
I
only
unmuted,
just
to
acknowledge
that
you
acknowledge
me.
I,
don't
really
have
any
questions,
it's
interesting
to
hear
everything.
That's
been
mentioned
and
I'm
making
notes
and
recording,
because
I
have
some
ideas
that
I
would
like
to
present
eventually,
but
but
not
at
this
moment,
but
I'm
feeling
certainly
confident
in
how
things
they're
going
forward.
So
I
pre
and
I
really
appreciate
being
able
to
kind
of
hover
over
and
listen
again.
Thank
you.
That's.
B
C
Yes,
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
so
we
had
originally
brought
this
forward
at
the
the
March
meeting
and
it
was
deferred
so
I
just
want
to
touch
base
touch
on
a
few
topics.
So
what
we
do
what
we
do
every
year
we've
had
the
homeownership
program
since
2008.
It
is
in
combination
of
municipal
funding
at
some
point
and
there's
a
reserve
to
fund
that,
but
also
it's
been
funded
through
provincial
programming,
we've
been
able
to
support
145
households
to
achieve
homeownership
since
2008
and
every
year
we
look
at
that
program.
C
We
get
direction
provided
by
the
province
in
terms
of
maximum
household
income
and
maximum
household
price,
which
are
eligible
under
the
program.
So
we
do
make
minor
refinements
to
the
program
every
year.
So
the
intent
to
the
meeting
in
March
was
just
to
bring
forward
to
the
committee
to
advise
you
on
the
changes
that
have
been
implemented
for
2020.
C
So
in
2020
we
have
just
we've
increased
the
household
maximum
household
income
limit
from
eighty
four
thousand,
eight
hundred
just
rounding
it
off
to
$85,000
the
maximum
household
assets
set
at
ten
thousand
dollars.
This
is
excluding
vehicles
and
registered
savings.
We've
increased
that
to
twenty
thousand
addition
to
that
we
have
the
maximum
house
price
in
in
previous
years.
The
price
that
is
set
by
the
ministry
for
our
area
is
three
hundred
and
seventy
eight
thousand
five
hundred
thirty
one
dollars.
C
In
years
past
to
in
2019,
we
had
challenges
with
the
additional
pressures
on
the
housing
system
and
the
stress
tests
that
were
put
in
place
there
CMHC
and
our
down
payment
amount
was
set
at
5%.
We
have
now
increased
the
down
payment
amount
to
10%
and
it
is
in
the
form
of
a
forgivable
loan
for
20
years.
If
the
household
sells
that
home
within
the
20
years,
they
would
owe
the
city
back
the
amount
that
was
lent
to
them,
plus
5%
application.
C
So
far
this
year
there
was
a
delay
on
running
the
program
due
to
covin,
and
we
had
spoken
to
the
real
estate
association
and
we
felt
it
was
best
to
put
that
on
hold
until
it
was
the
sector
was
being
a
cup.
So
in
the
last
month
we
had
put
it
back
out.
We
have
so
far
secured
there's
one
confirmed
purchase.
We
have
eight
households
on
a
conditional
offer
looking
to
secure
home,
and
we
have
one
individual
on
the
waitlist
so
that
we
should
be
able
to
fully
a
delicate
the
funds
for
2020.
G
B
Seeing
none
Thank
You
Michigan,
it's
it's
a
program
that
the
perhaps
a
lot
of
people
aren't
aren't
aware
of,
but
it
it
obviously
is
is
working
well
the
that
the
next.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
piece
of
business
that
was
was
left
over
when
we
we
lost
quorum
and
in
the
last
meeting,
and
that's
the
2019.
B
B
G
G
What's
going
on,
have
some
input
have
conversations
and
I
wrote
to
the
clerk
city
clerk
at
the
edge
I
think
it
was
even
the
previous
meeting
date
and,
and
he
explained
the
reason
why
we
couldn't
meet
before,
because
our
we
were
waiting
for
a
report
from
from
Ruth,
and
there
were
some
process
reasons
why
we
were
in
meeting
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
really
understand
why.
The
timing
of
our
meeting
can't
just
happen
at
certain
times.
G
B
B
B
A
No
mr.
chair
I
think
you've
summed
it
up
properly.
Also
just
remind
the
committee
that
other
business,
unfortunately,
is
not
an
opportunity
to
engage
in
discussion
on
substantive
matters,
but
rather
is
a
chance
for
announcement.
So
if
there's
a
desire
for
the
committee
to
discuss
this
topic
moving
forward,
there's
a
chance
that
we
can
put
it
on
an
agenda,
but
it
should
not
be
discussed
really
any
further
at
this
point,
as
it
is
not
appropriate
on
the
agenda
to
have
discussions
under
other
business.
B
H
You
mister
chair,
so
I
I
understand
that
meeting
was
postponed
and
the
time
right
and
selected
for
the
meeting
I
believe
was
with
the
clerk's
office,
as
it
usually
is
yourself.
As
chair
and
staff,
you
date
for
the
meeting,
although
some
people
might
think
that
I
was
involved
with
the
selection
of
the
day,
I
can
guarantee
you
know
which
date
was
selected.
H
H
I
think
definitely,
and
rightly
so-
want
to
be
aware
and
informed
because
of
the
mandate,
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
might
want
to
do
from
the
staff
perspective
are
try
to
do,
and
you
will
do
our
best
to
bring
information
to
your
attention
as
finely
as
possible,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
the
committee
gets
to.
You
know,
give
a
different
direction
that
council
might
already
have
given
it
means,
and
it
allows
at
least
for
the
committee
to
be
in
to
be
able
to
and
I
apologize.
H
D
I,
just
yes,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
thing,
because
I
did
speak
up
first
about
us
not
meeting
and
questioned
the
timing
and
questioned
our
rule
as
a
committee
during
this
pandemic
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
I
didn't
speak
up
because
I
thought
we
should
be
micromanaging.
The
situation
and
I
didn't
speak
up.
D
Looking
at
this
situation
as
a
short-term
problem
like
we're
still
in
the
city,
still
looking
at
how
to
house
people
and
and
and
will
be
for
for
some
time
so
I
just
sort
of
wanted
to
clarify
that
that
not
neither
of
those
things
were
in
my
mind
when
I
was
speaking
up.
I
was
just
curious
as
to
the
city's
reasoning
for
for
that
decision,
for
not
bringing
something
forward.
It
did
to
discussion.
A
B
B
H
B
G
B
F
Also,
don't
have
much
further
I
think
what
I'd
wanted
to
say
was
address,
but
the
report
was
great
to
receive
and
I
think
it
was
just
that
piece
of
communication.
The
committee
was
just
looking
for
that
communication
and
and
to
be
informed
exactly
as
Lani
said
and
I
really
appreciate
the
city's
responsiveness.
You
know
we
weren't
necessarily
informed
on
this
and
when
that
meeting
was
cancelled,
but
certainly
the
right
steps
have
been
taken,
and
so
much
has
been
done
and
I'm
grateful.