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City Council meeting from May 1, 2018. For the full meeting agenda visit http://bit.ly/2rcE9Jq
A
Moved
by
Councillor
George
seconded
by
Councillor
Holland,
the
council
resolved
itself
into
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
closed
meeting
to
consider
the
following
item:
a
position,
plan
procedure,
criteria
or
instruction
to
be
applied
to
any
negotiations
carried
on
or
to
be
carried
on
by
or
on
behalf
of
the
municipality
or
local
board.
Nonprofit,
affordable
housing
in
Kingston.
B
B
B
B
E
B
Okay,
thank
you
seeing
no
other
declarations
of
pecuniary
interest.
We
will
move
on
so
we
have
no
presentations
this
evening,
but
we
do
have
one
delegation,
Paul
Martin,
will
appear
before
council
to
speak
to
Clause
5,
a
report
45
received
from
the
CEO
with
respect
to
delegated
authority
for
property
acquisition,
third
crossing
and
just
a
reminder
to
our
delegations
that
you
have
five
minutes.
F
F
F
So
I'd
like
to
begin
by
letting
everyone
know,
I
am
NOT
against
the
third
crossing
I'm,
for
it
I
think
it's
a
very
positive
thing
and
it's
not
my
intent
to
interfere
with
its
progress.
However,
I
do
feel
it's
very
important
that
the
affected
land
owners
and
businesses
have
an
opportunity
to
receive
meaningful
and
up-to-date
information
about
the
full
impact
of
the
development
on
their
properties
and
their
businesses.
F
F
F
My
experience
with
the
city
in
dealing
with
expropriation,
because
what
they're
asking
is
they're
asking
that
you
begin
to
negotiate
with
us,
but
do
it
in
tandem
with
expropriation,
and
my
experience
with
expropriation
with
the
city
has
been
unfair
and
not
in
good
faith
and
when
I
see
this
being
proposed
right
away
and
immediately
I
say
to
myself
why?
If
they're
going
to
try
to
treat
us
fairly,
why
would
you
want
to
do
it
in
tandem
immediately?
Why
wouldn't
you
want
to
sit
down
with
all
of
the
people
affected,
the
businesses
and
I
guess
I.
F
The
decisions
when
I
ask
whether
you've
had
an
opportunity
understand
the
effect
has
been.
No,
we
didn't
realize
that
the
information
wasn't
communicated
properly
and
I
think
it's
very
important
that
counsel
as
you're,
making
those
decisions
and
how
they
affect
the
businesses
and
the
people
that
are
in
these
areas.
How
they're
affected
you
need
to
know,
because
in
my
experience
it
was
related.
Thank.
G
F
To
see
the
traffic
patterns
are
going
to
be
how
our
properties
are
going
to
be
affected,
where
the
roadways
are
going,
where
the
traffic
counts
are
going,
where
the
streetlights
are
going
to
be.
There's
been
none
of
that
done
to
at
least
the
best
of
my
ability
as
of
yet,
and
those
are
things
that
are
going
to
adversely
affect
all
of
us
in
that
area
and
I.
Think
it's
really
important,
not
to
mention
a
a
bit
of
a
business
study
done
on
how
they're
going
to
affect
the
businesses
in
that
area.
H
F
The
city
and
they'll
do
a
market
assessment
and
that
market
assessment
usually
does
not
compensate,
and
my
experience
with
1551
john
counter
boulevard,
where
the
city
expropriated
last
year
from
me,
ended
up
in
a
scenario
where
the
businesses
that
I
had
in
there
were
eliminated,
except
for
one
still
in
existence.
I
ended
up
with
no
property.
No
building
and
I
ended
up
with
a
little
bit
of
cash,
in
my
hand,
which
I
couldn't
purchase.
F
What
I
had
and
I
think
it
is
really
important
that
this
council
see
and
understand
the
effect
that
they're
not
having
not
just
only
on
the
land
owner,
but
also
on
the
businesses
that
are
associated
with
that
land,
owner
and
I
know
in
this
particular
case
of
the
third
crossing
you're,
also
taking
some
land
from
private
home
owners,
and
if
you
give
them,
let's
say
$300,000
or
$400,000.
The
average
house
anymore
is
that
if
not
more
and
you'd
find
it
very
stressful
trying
to
find
something
else
to
accommodate
what
they've
lost
and
I
guess.
F
D
You
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
vote
to
move
forward
with
this
in
such
a
way
that
we
can
satisfy
your
concerns,
in
other
words,
kind
of
killing
two
birds
with
one
stone
or
moving
forward
and
accomplishing
both
tasks.
I
guess,
I'd
say
we're
you
we
we
can.
We
can
treat
you
fairly
and
equitably
in
a
transparent
manner,
with
with
the
course
that
we're
potentially
going
to
take
I.
F
Guess
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
having
at
least
a
minimum
of
two
counselors
on
the
good
negotiating
committee
and
I
know
we
each
get
dealt
with
separately
and
that's
fine,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
counsel
is
informed
and
knows
what
the
process
is,
because
my
past
experiences
being
is,
they
were
not
informed
properly.
They
didn't
understand
the
process
and
you
know
I
need
some
assurance.
I
guess
that
I'm
gonna
be
dealt
fairly
this
time
around,
because
I
wasn't
last
time
and
I.
F
B
You,
okay,
so
you
know
other
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
okay,
so
we
will
move
on.
We
have
no
further
delegations
tonight,
but
we
do
have
one
briefing
Gerard,
Hunt
CEO
will
provide
introductory
remarks
and
introduced.
David
fell
chief
executive
officer,
the
eastern
ontario
regional
network,
who
will
provide
a
briefing
to
counsel
with
respect
to
clause,
to
report
number
46
from
the
CEO
with
respect
to
the
eastern
ontario
cell
gap
and
capacity
expansion,
project
Thank.
I
I
So
it
was
a
great
partnership
council.
In
this
term,
your
council
set
a
goal
of
a
smart
city.
Part
of
that
goal
was
to
enhance
our
fiber
connectivity
and
a
key
word
on
that
is
connectivity.
What
is
before
you
tonight
is
the
ability
to
enhance
connectivity.
We
all
know
that
there
are
sections
in
this
city
that
you
can
drop
calls,
basically,
because
there
is
interference
with
the
cell
signals
and
those
calls
are
not
conducive
with
good
connectivity,
and/or
economic
development
opportunities.
I
In
addition,
the
more
carriers
that
are
on
on
on
the
system,
I'm,
sorry,
the
more
the
more
users
that
are
on
the
system,
means
that
if
we
don't
expand
that
system,
we
won't
be
able
to
have
sufficient
capability
to
be
able
to
have
more
people
using
the
system.
It
won't
set
us
up
for
the
future
and
it
won't
achieve
some
of
your
smart
city
objectives.
So
with
that,
we
are
pleased
to
be
able
to
recommend
without
an
impact
in
tax
dollars,
a
four-year
allocation
to
a
project
that
mr.
I
J
Thank
you
very,
very
much
for
that
great
introduction,
George,
worship,
members
of
council.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
evening.
I
just
like
to
take
a
moment
to
introduce
my
colleagues.
Kelly
Pender
is
a
CEO
from
County
of
Frontenac
nearby
Lisa
Severson
is
our
stakeholder
Communications,
Officer
and
Jim
pine
is
the
CIO
for
Hastings
County,
and
also
a
co-lead
on
the
project
and
they've
been
instrumental
in
helping
us
get
here
to
this
point
today
and
thanks
for
the
great
introduction
drug,
your
technical
background
has
really
grown
in
leaps
and
bounds.
I
was
gonna.
J
Let
you
do
the
whole
presentation
tonight,
so
we
wanted
to
give
you
a
very
brief
update
on
background
on
the
original
project,
as
gerard
talked
a
little
bit
about,
but
really
concentrate
on
the
motion.
That's
before
you
tonight
and
try
to
provide
some
some
context
for
that.
So
this
is
our
first
project.
It
started
in
2010.
It
was
completed
in
2015.
J
We
were
able
to
put
fiber
into
business
parks
in
partnership
with
Kingston
utilities
and
other
companies
and
over
five
thousand
five
hundred
kilometers
of
new
Gigabit
Ethernet
fiber,
so
that
surrounded
the
region
and
we've
had
150,000
new
subscribers
in
Eastern
Ontario
able
to
get
high-speed
broadband
as
we
wrap
that
project
up,
though
we
heard
from
a
number
of
MPs
and
MVPs
that
they
were
concerned
about
mobile
coverage,
both
cell
coverage
in
Eastern
Ontario.
So
we
were
starting
to
get
a
lot
of
calls.
J
Lisa
was
taking
a
lot
of
those
calls
and
we
started
to
do
some
research
on
the
project.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
sense.
Gerard
alluded
to
this.
Your
investment
in
the
first
project
was
four
hundred
and
forty
thousand,
you
got
a
direct
investment
in
cash
of
1.8
million,
as
well
as
727
thousand
into
the
business
parks
through
Kingston
utilities.
So
it
gives
you
a
bit
of
a
sense.
J
We
try
to
talk
to
all
of
our
meals
apart
municipal
partners,
about
the
kind
of
return
that
they
might
get
from
their
investment
on
these
projects
and
we're
looking
for
the
same
kind
of
return.
The
next
time
around
since
the
end
of
2015
I
also
want
to
mention
that
we've
had
over
100
million
dollars
in
private
sector
investment
into
broadband
in
Eastern
Ontario,
and
that's
in
projects
like
the
fiber-to-the-home
project
from
battling
Kingston
and
in
Peterborough.
That
was
around
75
million
dollars
of
investment.
J
So
these
projects
helped
us
to
stimulate
and
trigger
new
investments
going
forward,
but
tonight
we're
here
specifically
to
talk
about
mobile
broadband,
and
we
were
very
pleased.
The
wardens
caucus
that
my
colleagues
represent
are
the
13
counties
of
Eastern
Ontario
and
every
year
they
identify
a
priority
for
economic
development,
and
this
year
we
were
pleased
to
see
that
our
cell
gap
project
was
their
number
one
priority
and
the
reason
we're
coming
to
you
tonight
is
just
last
week.
J
How
much
would
it
cost
to
close
those
gaps,
and
our
operating
premise
is
we're
only
looking
at
putting
public
dollars
in
if
there's
market
failure?
If
the
private
sector
companies
can
go
and
make
a
return
on
investment
and
invest
their
own
money
in
the
network,
then
we
shouldn't
be
putting
public
money
in.
J
But
we
know
that
in
rural
and
near
rural
urban
areas
outside
of
the
core,
the
GTA
there's
areas
that
they
can't
make
enough
return
on
their
investment
and
they're
not
going
to
close
those
gaps
and
that's
kind
of
the
premise
that
we
use
for
doing
our
design.
For
the
project,
so
when
we
did
that
market
failure
analysis,
we
identified
a
213
million
dollar
private
public
partnership.
J
There's
two
different
aspects
of
the
project:
one
is
coverage
and
coverage
is
when
you
can't
get
any
signal,
there's
no
bars
and
there
are
big
gaps
in
Eastern
Ontario.
There
are
some
gaps
just
on
the
fringes
of
the
city
of
Kingston,
where
you
can't
get
a
signal,
I
think
it's
Bath
Road!
When
you
drive
down
the
hill,
you
drop
the
call,
there's
no
signal
there.
J
Our
project
would
fix
those
gaps
by
investing
in
infrastructure
to
put
a
tower
there,
so
that
you
will
get
a
signal
and
that's
a
very
large
part
of
the
project,
it's
about
a
hundred
and
sixty-five
million
dollars,
but
there's
also
a
challenge
around
something
that
we
talked.
That
Gerard
was
talking
about,
which
is
capacity.
So
when
there's
too
many
people
using
the
network
at
the
same
time-
and
you
end
up
dropping
your
calls
or
you
can
sustain
a
call,
but
you
can't
use
data
on
your
phone.
That's
a
problem
with
capacity
and
I'll.
J
Give
you
a
little
example
in
Kingston
I
did
my
MBA
at
Queen's
in
2010.
If
you
go
to
the
Donald
Gordon
Center,
you
can
get
one
or
two
bars
on
the
bowel
network
at
Donald
Gordon.
If
you
get
about
a
hundred
people
in
there
and
they're
bringing
executives
from
all
over
the
world
to
do
executive
training,
if
they
all
start
using
their
cell
phone
at
the
break
between
classes,
you
can't
get
a
signal.
There's
not
enough
capacity
in
the
network
to
sustain
that.
J
If
you
go
downstairs,
you
have
absolutely
no
signal,
so
that's
at
one
of
the
premier
places
in
Kingston
where
you're
encouraging
people
to
come,
and
it's
a
part
of
your
economic
development.
So
if
we
have
thirty
five
million
set
aside
to
close
those
capacity
gaps-
and
we
do
believe
that
a
lot
of
that
will
be
invested
in
transportation
corridors
and
in
the
urban
centres
when
we
go
out
to
the
market,
it's
a
competitive
process
for
bidding,
so
we
don't
tell
them
exactly
where
it
has
to
go
and
I
want
to
really
emphasize
this.
J
We
get
a
lot
of
calls
or
questions.
This
is
a
conceptual
design.
We
know
where
the
holes
are.
We
don't
know
exactly
where
the
towers
are
gonna
go
until
we
go
through
the
competitive
process
and
we
receive
the
bids
back
from
the
vendors.
So
we
do
have
a
conceptual
design
and
a
conceptual
costing,
and
we
have
a
rough
sense
of
how
many
new
towers
we
even
need
to
use.
We
always
try
to
minimize
new
tower
building
by
looking
at
places
where
we
can
co-locate
that's
what
the
Colo
is
short
for
colocation.
J
So
if
we
can
call
okay
on
a
tower,
then
we
go
with
that.
First,
how
did
we
structure
the
project?
It's
a
private-public
partnership.
Yarn
is
a
non-profit
non-sugar
capital
corporation.
We
have
I
report
to
a
Board
of
Directors,
along
with
my
colleagues
and
in
this
partnership.
It's
a
one-third
one-third
one-third,
so
the
wardens
caucus
in
the
mayor's
caucus
would
put
in
ten
million
dollars.
Canada
would
put
in
71
million
and
we're
looking
forward
to
Canada
officially
joining
the
project.
J
Later
this
summer,
early
fall
Ontario's
already
committed
their
71
million
dollars
and
we
would
go
out
and
expect
to
raise
a
minimum
of
61
million
from
the
private
sector.
Last
time
we
exceeded
our
target
expectation
from
investment
from
the
private
sector,
the
mayor's
caucus,
the
10
separated
cities.
Just
to
give
you
a
bit
of
a
sense
of
how
we
came
up
with
the
number
for
Kingston
and
all
of
the
different
members,
we
had
four
CEOs
who,
from
the
mayor's
and
from
the
wardens,
develop
a
formula
20%
of
the
formula
is
based
on
the
area.
J
J
This
is
the
number
for
Kingston
nine
hundred
fifty
four
thousand
seven
hundred
and
eighty
two
dollars
and
we're
hoping
that
you
will
support
that
contribution
over
the
next
four
years
and
see
a
similar
kind
of
return
on
investment
into
the
community
of
Kingston
in
both
coverage
and
capacity
and
in
terms
of
the
timelines.
We
already
have
provincial
approval,
we're
hoping
for
federal
approval
in
the
fall.
J
We
would
start
negotiating
the
contribution
agreement
with
the
province
and
develop
the
RFPs
issue,
the
RFPs,
and
we
would
hope
to
start
building
in
late,
2019
or
early
2020,
and
it
would
likely
be
a
three
to
four
year,
build
over
that
time
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
there
are
any
thank.
K
You
Mary
Padian,
actually,
when
you
mode
in
center
you're
getting
pretty
close
to
my
district.
So
my
question
has
to
do
with
towers
and
has
the
technology
for
building
towers,
changed
and
refined
so
that
they
aren't
as
intrusive
when
you
need
to
build
something
quite
tall
inside
a
city?
Is
there?
Is
there
a
change
in
how
you're
doing
it
so.
J
Currently,
a
question:
currently
the
I'm
going
to
need
to
be
new
cell
towers
to
close
the
coverage
gaps.
One
of
the
new
technologies
that
my
colleagues
and
our
engineers
are
looking
at,
you've
probably
heard
about
5g.
So
5g
is
the
next
generation
of
mobile
coverage
and
the
way
5-week.
The
standards
haven't
been
set
and
we're
like
you
trying
to
figure
out
how
much
of
it
is
hype
and
what
its
gonna
look
like.
J
But
5g
will
be
more
like
likely
to
be
fiber
fed
small
cells
that
would
be
on
telephone
poles
and
buildings
and
to
increase
depend
density
of
coverage
and
capacity
in
urban
areas.
So
that
is
a
new
technology
that'll
be
coming
out
and
that
might
minimize
some
of
the
over
build.
But
we
don't
know
what
the
timelines
on
that
will
be.
I'm.
K
J
Don't
we
exactly
of
when
fighting
to
the
market?
Bell
Canada
is
doing
20
sites
in
Ontario
this
year,
maybe
200
next
year.
So
as
we
go
through
that
RFP
process,
we
won't
do
the
whole
thing
in
one
big
RFP
and
we
will
try
to
take
advantage
of
new
technologies
as
they
come
in
and
as
we
go
through
that
process.
L
B
L
J
If
there's
more
capacity
in
the
number
than
you're,
much
much
likely
to
stay
on,
but
Prince
Edward
counties
and
all
another
great
example
in
Wellington,
where
they
get
thousands
and
thousands
of
visitors
on
a
Saturday
or
Sunday,
not
enough
capacity
network,
when
the
hip
concert
was
here
in
downtown,
how
many
people
did
you
have
in
the
square?
I
guarantee
half
of
those
people
probably
didn't,
have
a
cell
connection
and
they
could
have
been
tweeting
about
your
event
and
giving
you
free
tourism,
marketing.
M
Thank
You
mayor
Paterson,
thank
you.
That
was
a
very
good
comment
about
tourism.
Yes,
we
do
need
that,
for
that
particular
point.
I'm,
going
back
to
the
technology
again,
isn't
there
ways
to
camouflage
the
technology?
I
was
reading
an
article
about
possibilities
of
making
the
towers,
look
like
a
tree
or
looking
like
a
chimney
stack
or
something
to
that
effect.
No.
J
Those
are
the
kind
of
questions
we
usually
get
more
in
Hastings
in
halliburton,
but
it
absolutely
there
is
a
bit
more
cost
to
make
them
look
like
trees
and
we
we.
We
can't
do
that
for
all
of
Eastern
Ontario,
but
we
think
we'll
probably
have
to
entertain
that
in
some
areas
absolutely
I
mean
we
understand
that
some
people
don't
want
more
towers.
We
get
that,
but
we
also
know
that
for
public
safety
and
smart
cities
and
all
kinds
of
other
reasons,
people
do
want
and
need
connectivity.
So
it's
a
kind
of
balancing
act
between
them.
J
J
You
know
two
questions
Cragen's,
so
as
a
our
model
is
that
we
use
the
public
dollars
to
stimulate
private
investment.
We
own
51%
in
the
last
project
we
own
51%
of
the
assets
in
the
network
for
seven
years,
and
we
use
them
as
security
to
ensure
that
over
the
long
term,
the
private
sector
companies
will
continue
to
invest
more
money
into
that
infrastructure
in
the
network.
After
seven
years
we
sell
it
back
to
them
for
$1,
we
don't
own
and
operate
the
network
and
we
don't
think
we're.
J
We
don't
want
to
be
owners
and
operators
of
the
network.
We
want
to
let
the
private
sector
own
and
operate
it,
but
we
sign
service
level
agreements
with
them
to
ensure
that
they
continue
to
invest
in
it
over
time
going
forward.
It's
not
like
a
road
or
a
bridge
where
you
build
it
once
and
it
lasts
for
50
years
and
you
pave
it
every
year.
J
You
need
ongoing
investments
into
the
network
over
time
and
that's
where
the
service
level
agreements
come
in
the
second
question
on
internet
of
things
and
are
there
our
model
is
not
about
us,
owning
it
or
generating
revenue
off
of.
We
think
that
the
private
sector
does
a
good
job
of
that,
but
I
do
think
that
everything
that's
gonna
happen
in
Internet
of
Things
and
in
your
smart
to
use
it
that
we'll
have
to
connect
to
some
kind
of
a
network,
and
the
mobile
network
will
be
one
of
the
choices.
B
D
Thank
you
through
you,
I'm
from
the
residents
of
race,
I'd
present
for
those
you
don't
know
where
it
is.
It's
actually
near
the
line,
Civic
garden
near
the
Cataraqui
mall.
The
purpose
and
reason
for
the
petition
is
request:
removal
of
significant
and
thinning
out
of
thorn
bushes
behind
the
houses
in
the
east,
west
and
south
sides
of
Brea
site
present.
The
reason
is
to
eliminate
and
better
control
areas
of
brush
that
are
currently
a
haven
for
use
by
large
groups
of
predominantly
young
people
as
a
clubhouse
type
resource.
D
This
type
of
usage
has
resulted
in
the
accumulation
of
large
amounts
of
waste
materials,
garbage
cans,
papers,
wrappers,
empty
cigarette
packages,
etc.
As
a
result,
the
mess
has
created
reduced
significantly
enjoyment
of
the
area
in
question,
especially
the
line.
Civic
garden
for
a
large
cross-section
of
citizens,
including
the
undersigned
and
I,
have
about
five
pages
of
signatures.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
say
no
other
petitions.
We
do
have
two
motions
of
condolence.
The
first
motion
moved
by
Mayor
Patterson
seconded
by
deputy
mayor
Holland,
that
this
is
the
Sira
condolences
if
Kingston
City
Council
be
extended
to
the
families
and
friends
of
those
who
were
killed
in
last
week's
attack
in
Toronto.
Our
thoughts
and
prayers
are
with
all
Torontonians
during
this
time
as
a
community,
we
stand
with
the
City
of
Toronto
and
offer
our
full
support.
B
In
the
aftermath
of
this
terrible
tragedy,
moved
by
Mayor
Patterson
seconded
by
deputy
mayor
Holland
that
the
sincere
condolences
of
Kingston
city
council
be
extended
to
family
and
friends
of
retired,
colonel
Jerry
Cody,
who
passed
away
Tuesday
April,
24th,
2018
Colonel
Cody
had
an
extensive
military
career
before
retiring
in
Kingston
in
1996.
He
was
widely
known
and
well
respected
in
the
Kingston
community
for
his
volunteerism
and
philanthropy
Colonel
Cody
would
be
dearly
missed
by
all
that
knew
him.
So
we
will
call
the
vote.
Please.
B
B
N
O
O
Just
a
question
on
its
the
report
makes
it
pretty
clear
as
to
why
addictions
and
mental
health
services
didn't
put
put
forward
a
an
application
for
this,
though,
I
mean
that
there's
a
transitional
that
I'm
just
curious
about
there's
reference
to
case
management
and
the
housing,
I,
guess,
homelessness,
prevention,
aspects
of
this
program
and
I'm
curious
about
whether
the
what
that'll
look
like
what
the
addictions,
counseling
component
of
homeless
homelessness
prevention
might
be
in
this
current
arrangement.
If
that
makes
any
sense.
P
Through
you,
mr.
mayor,
there's
needs
to
be
clarified.
First
of
all
that
addictions
of
mental
health
was
not
providing
a
mental
health
service
for
the
homeless
services,
they
were
providing
case
management,
so
the
service
they
were
providing
is
the
same
service
that
Homebase
housing
had
been
providing,
and
now
we
providing
in
an
extended
aspect
for
the
whole
program.
P
Now
that
there's
not
that
connection
so
I,
don't
believe,
there's
a
good
answer
for
that
other
than
we've
made
the
overture
to
addictions
of
mental
health
to
try
to
remain
part
of
the
system
in
some
way,
and
we've
asked
them
to
propose
something
so
that
there
is
a
better
liaison
situation
between
our
homeless
services
and
addictions
and
mental
health
services.
Commissioner
hurdle
thank.
Q
You,
mr.
mayor
I,
just
I,
just
want
to
build.
Maybe
on
the
last
point
that
director
shellman
Leeman
Sheldon
layman
mentioned
we,
we
recognize
the
importance
of
keeping
them
involved
in
the
overall
system
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
to
keep
working
with
them
to
make
sure
that
they
remain
connected
and
remain
involve
as
an
agency
that
can
provide
support
services.
B
B
B
G
Was
counselor
Holland
who
separated
that
though,
but
I
can
kick-start
it
so
I
do
support
this
and
I've
long
heard
that
Ontario
works,
that
some
people
on
Ontario
work
staying
on
Ontario
works
so
that
they
can
keep
their
health
benefits.
So
what
my
question
is
is
that
we
reviewed
on
Ottawa,
Toronto,
Hamilton,
London
and
st.
G
O
Your
worship
I
have
a
question
about
the
so
the
the
amount
that's
being
funded
from
the
social
services,
Ontario
Works
allowance
allowances
and
benefits.
Stabilization
Reserve-
is
that
the
same
as
so,
there
is
currently
like
a
discretionary
house
spending
and
the
Ontario
Works
budget.
Is
that
the
same,
or
is
this
a
different
program?
Mr.
Q
You,
mr.
mayor,
so
this
is
a
different
reserve
fund.
I
was
set
actually
that
was
set
up
by
the
city
over
the
years,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because,
if
you
recall
until
actually
I
think
until
this
year,
the
city
was
responsible
for
a
portion
of
the
Ontario
Works
payment
and
not
knowing
what
what
the
numbers
could
be
from
year
to
year.
In
terms
of
cycles.
O
Q
3
EMA,
so
council
might
recall
that
that
information,
additional
information
in
terms
of
numbers
for
HBase
this
count
will
be
coming
back
in
2019.
So
we
do
not
have
the
numbers
yet,
but
we
anticipate
that
for
this
particular
program,
because
it's
a
pilot,
we
anticipate
that
over
time
there
may
be
a
growing
need
or
a
growing
interest
in
terms
of
support
from
the
community,
and
we
might
be
looking
at
more
funding
over
time.
So
this
is
where
additional
funds
from
the
aged
based
program
could
be
redirected
to
this
program.
O
That
I
think
enhances
the
the
dignity
of
a
large
portion
of
the
population
who
currently
aren't
being
served
and
who
require
these
types
of
health
interventions,
essentially
to
not
only
live
a
happy
prosperous
life.
But
to
do
things
that
we
would
like
to
see,
people
do
like
go
into
work
or
make
sure
that
their
that
the
children
that
families
aren't
over
overly
burdened
by
the
costs
of
health
services,
so
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
and
thank
staff
for
bringing
it
forward.
O
B
N
Worship
and
through
I
think
it's
it's
a
recommendation
that
I'm
certainly
going
to
support,
but
I
do
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
to
it
and
ask
some
questions
of
staff.
That
I
think
will
assist
in
some
clearer
understanding
for
the
current
landowners
that
were
going
to
be
involved
in
this
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
sending
around
the
memo
earlier
today
to
clarify
some
of
the
questions
that
a
number
of
us
had
and
following
the
report
that
was
provided
to
us
and
I'm
just
wondering.
N
Ownership
of
and
that
staff,
because
I
learned,
I,
think
a
little
bit
more
from
your
memo
today
could
take
the
time
to
explain
the
exact
process
because
I
don't
think
it's
all
about
expropriation.
What
I'm
reading
here
is
that
this
it's
a
negotiation
process
and
that,
for
example,
there
wouldn't
necessarily
just
be
one
appraisal
provided
by
the
city
that
the
property
owner
could
in
fact
order
an
appraisal
as
well.
N
R
Mr.
Keegan
boss,
thank
you
through
you.
You
were
regarded
your
first
question
about
information.
Absolutely
staffs
initiative
is
to
reach
out
to
all
effective
property
owners
and
provide
as
much
information
as
possible.
From
the
very
first
meeting,
we've
been
successful
being
able
to
meet
with
a
number
of
the
property
owners
today
then,
and
have
meetings
set
up
with
with
others.
R
The
the
goal
of
those
meetings
is
to
explain
everything
about
the
process,
including
the
previous
EA,
in
the
public
process,
which
we
encouraged
all
the
affected
property
owners
to
to
attend,
and
they
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
project
team.
At
that
time.
The
information
with
respect
to
the
actual
property
requirements
was
identified
during
that
EA
process.
R
So
regardless,
if
we
expropriate
or
not
or
have
that
need
when
we
come
knocking
on
someone's
door
to
buy
their
property
for
for
a
public
project,
we
take
into
account
the
the
detailed
process
that
is
in
the
provincial
guideline
or
Act,
which
is
the
expropriations
Act
which
municipalities
have
to
follow
in
order
to
acquire
the
property
that
includes.
When
we
deliver
an
offer,
we
must
deliver
that
offer
with
an
appraisal
that
that's
cited
in
the
Appropriations
Act
and
that's
a
part
of
our
City
Council
approve
policy
and
acquisition.
R
We
also
encourage
property
owners
if
they
so
desire
to
pursue
an
appraisal
and
know
that
the
city
will
cover
that
cost
as
part
of
the
acquisition.
The
the
key
point
in
the
expropriations
act
for
private
property
owners
is
that
they
have
a
full
recovery
of
all
reasonable
costs
if
they
would
incur
due
to
the
acquisition
by
the
public
authority,
which
in
this
case
is
the
city,
so
that
is,
that
is
the
goal
of
the
process.
Commissioner
Poole.
So.
Q
Thank
you
and
three
mr.
mayor
I
just
want
to
add
to
that
that
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
conversations
about
expropriation
and
that's
a
word
that
scares
a
lot
of
people
and
I
can
appreciate
that
a
first
step
is
not
ever
expropriation.
Our
first
step
is
obviously
to
get
the
appraisal
and,
as
mr.
egan
boss
indicated,
to
encourage
a
property
owner
to
also
obtain
an
appraisal
which
the
city
covers
a
cost
from
there.
Q
We
do
have
conversations
and
negotiations
with
the
property
owner
looking
at
information
from
these
two
appraisals,
because,
ultimately
that's
what
we
want
to
be
able
to
achieve
is
really
a
successful
negotiation.
It
is
much
easier
and
actually
a
lot
cheaper
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
achieve
a
successful
negotiation,
and
to
give
you
an
example,
when
we
went
through
the
John
counter
bull
varm
project,
the
city
was
successful
in
over
30
negotiations,
except
for
one
where
we
had
to
moving
into
expropriation.
Q
So
that
gives
you
a
sense
of
how
we
you
do
want
to
work
with
property
owners.
The
other
I
think
to
your
other
question,
about
having
a
meeting
with
property
owners
to
look
at
the
plans
and
so
on.
I
think
that's
something
we
would
be
open
to
to
doing,
and
definitely
we
don't
yet
have
all
the
information
in
terms
of
road
access,
but
that's
something
we
would
want
to
do
with
the
public.
Yes,.
N
Okay,
so
what
I'm
gathering
then
from
what
you
have
said
just
so
I've
got
it
clear
and
my
SEC
head
that,
even
though
we
are
complying
under
the
expropriation
Act,
it
doesn't
mean
that
we're
going
to
expropriate
it's
just
a
tool
in
which
gets
you
to
a
point
of
negotiation
and
through
the
negotiation
process.
If
all
else
fails,
then
you're
in
that
position
to
expropriate,
because
you
have
followed
those
steps.
Mr.
R
R
So
we
want
to
negotiate
with
the
property
owners
and
we
have
initiated
several
of
those
already,
but
in
parallel
to
that
process
because
of
the
timelines
and
because
of
the
the
funding
and
the
timing
for
commencement
of
construction,
expropriation
can
take
up
to
12
months
to
complete
an
expropriation
is
the
only
tool
that
guarantees
the
city
to
acquire
those
properties
and
the
project
cannot
go
on
without
those
properties
ever
identified
in
the
plenary
design
through
the
EA.
So
to
run
that
parallel
process,
it's
not
uncommon
in
the
province
of
Ontario.
It's
not
the
process.
R
N
So
I
think
just
for
a
peace
of
mind,
I
hope
for
the
current
property
owners.
It
sounds
like
you
are
willing
to
approach
the
idea
of
having
a
get-together
to
simply
review,
at
least
where
we're
at
at
this
point
with
the
needs
in
order
to
which
were
identified
media
in
order
to
begin
negotiation
process
and
the
fact
that
it
wouldn't
just
be
one
single
appraisal
come
from
the
city,
that
the
option
is
there
for
them
as
well
paid
by
the
city
so
that
at
least
there's
there's,
there's
two
values
there
to
negotiate
with
I.
N
L
L
First
of
all
sounds
to
me
very
much
like
it's
expert
expropriation,
if
necessary,
but
that's
a
kind
of
last
resort
that
that
our
staff
will
enter
into
a
negotiation
process
with
an
opportunity
to
to
have
a
couple
of
assessments
done,
and
so
so
it's
only
expropriation
as
a
last
resort.
Is
that
accurate,
miss.
R
Chicken
bus
expropriation
is
a
last
resort.
We
want
to
negotiate
and
settle
deals
cooperatively
with
the
property
owners,
and
I
should
mention
that's
based
on
the
appraisals
that
you
mentioned,
and
the
appraisal
is
not
simply
as
the
property
sits
today.
The
appraisal
has
to
take
into
his
current
use
its
future
potential
highest
and
best
use
of
a
highest
development
model
for
the
property,
as
well
as
tenants
that
that
are
in
or
whether
it's
an
investment
property.
So
all
those
are
taken
into
account
in
the
in
the
appraisals
for
the
property
and
there.
Q
You
and
through
you,
mr.
mayor,
so
the
we
would
from
a
staff
perspective.
We
would
never
recommend
that
any
kind
of
discussions
around
a
property
value
be
discussed
in
a
group
session
or
a
public
meeting.
Your
apps
are
correct.
Councillor
Neill
that
that's
something
typically,
that's
discussed
in
closed
session
or
we've
had
obviously
negotiations
that
have
happened
through
staff,
etc.
Q
I
think
what
the
the
delegation
mentioned
then
we
could
definitely
look
at
accommodating,
and
maybe
the
Deputy
Commissioner
van
Buuren
might
want
to
comment
on
that
is
a
public
meeting
to
look
at
where
the
the
project
is
at
and
looking
at
some
of
the
future
next
steps
overall
for
the
project
and
having
a
better
understanding
of
when
the
the
construction
may
start
and
and
the
road
access
implications.
I
know
we
don't
have
that
worked
out
in
details
yet,
but
that's
something
that
I
think
you
may
want
to
come
and
tell
mr.
S
We're
gonna
deliver
that
that
communication
of
public
engagement
in
a
variety
of
different
formats
later
in
June,
we'll
have
an
updated
project
website
where
the
general
public
and
other
stakeholders
must
be
able
to
get
more
up-to-date
information
related
to
the
project
project
team
is
also
has
gotten
started
on
starting
to
reach
out
to
some
of
what
work
we're
calling
near
neighbors.
So
those
are
going
to
be
landowners.
Businesses
that
are
gonna
be
directly
affected
by
by
the
final
design
in
the
construction
phase
for
the
project.
So
again,
there
is
an
opportunity
that
we
can.
L
L
I
think
that
puts
that
should
be
a
collective
decision
of
counsel
and
it
puts
individuals
in
my
mind
in
some
jeopardy
if
the
context
of
that
was
within
the
idea
of
a
public
meeting,
the
whole
idea
of
a
public
meeting
I
would
think
is
for
the
public
to
have
the
the
most
say
in
that,
and
not
just
a
couple
of
counselors
I'm
a
little
confused
by
that
recommendation.
Can
you
speak
to
that
commercial.
B
Q
You
an
attorney
or
so
first
of
all,
I,
don't
know
what
committee
I
was
being
referred
to.
We
don't
have
an
acquisition
committee
you're,
absolutely
right,
councillor
Neill
that,
typically,
when
we
deal
with
or
disposition
it
either
goes
through
counsel
as
a
whole
or
council
delegates,
the
authority
to
staff
which
council
has
done
on
a
number
of
different
occasion
dealing
with
employment
lands,
for
example.
L
L
But
having
said
that,
there's
a
there
was
a
clear
vote
by
council
that
night
and
I
think
it
behooves
us
not
to
get
involved
in
kind
of
rear
action
obstructionism
by
deferring
things
that
have
all
read
that
are
necessary
for
that.
So
so
I
apologize
for
those
that
I
worked
with
in
the
past
on
on
getting
a
no
vote.
G
You
for
worshiping-
that's
just
about
mean
of
the
information
so
based
on
the
answers
to
account
councillor
Neill
and
councillor
George
Deputy
Commissioner
of
Van
Buren.
So
it
sounds
like
some
general
information
could
go
to
the
eight
affected
property
owners
as
well
as
maybe
the
townhouses
that
have
their
entrance
right
off
the
counter
Street
west
of
the
bridge
about
you
know.
Maybe
some
traffic
patterns,
road
closures,
what
to
expect
by
the
end
of
June
and
then
the
negotiations.
G
N
S
B
This
recommendation
that
is
before
us
tonight
is
one
of
those
pieces
aimed
at
ensuring
it
comes
in
on
time
and
on
budget,
and
we
know
that
when
we
discuss
this
project
around
this
table,
that
one
of
the
biggest
risks
to
cost
was
time
that
the
longer
this
project
is
delayed,
the
higher
the
cost
is
going
to
be.
So
that's
why
the
timing
is
so
critical,
so
the
way
that
I
read
this
and
I
think
that
councillor
George
said
it
well.
This
is
not
a
matter
of
ramming
this
through
or
railroading
any
property
owner.
B
T
You
worship
it
seemed
to
me
in
talking
to
people
since
the
weekend
about
this.
Like
a
number
of
my
colleagues
that
people
thought
this
was
much
more
imminent
and
being
rushed
through,
then
it's
actually
going
to
happen.
So
I
was
wondering
if
staff
could
speak
a
bit
about
the
preliminary
steps
that
are
necessary
before
you're,
really
able
to
really
start
negotiating
with
people
I'm.
Thinking
of
the
one
who
struck
me,
which
was
so
obvious
with
surveys,
surveys
of
all
different
properties
and
sure
everybody's
agreed
that
this
is
what's
being
bought
and
sold.
T
R
R
We
also
need
to
have
the
property
defined
by
legal
survey
in
some
instances,
that
is
already
done
in
a
full
buyout
situation
of
a
property,
but
when
we're
in
to
partial
takings
of
property
and
widening
those
surveys
need
to
be
completed
or
amended
from
what
they
are,
and
in
these
things
take
time
we
need
people's
availability
where
we're
coming
knocking
on
their
door.
So
we
we
asked
for
their
they're
welcome
and
in
their
time.
R
So,
in
order
to
to
to
get
that
stage,
you
can
take
weeks
and
months
which
we've
we've
got
about
two
months
start
so
far
since
the
federal
announcement
and
in
order
to
expropriate
like
I
mention
before
it's
a
very
strict
process.
So
to
do
that,
we
have
to
have
the
right
survey
plans
the
right
notices
to
the
property
owner,
the
the
right
bylaws
on
counsel
agendas
and
approved.
So
none
of
that
is
happening
tonight.
It
all
has
to
be
done
in
and
it's
not
an
overnight
process
to
undertake
all
those
steps.
T
R
T
Repeat
that
expectation
is
the
last
resort,
also
and
I
think
mr.
Van
Buren
may
be
said
to
have
answered
this,
but
just
to
be
sure
yeah,
because
this
is
taking
place
in
the
northeast
corner
of
my
district,
that
we
talked
about
the
landowners.
But
there
are
businesses,
tenants,
businesses,
tenants
of
these
landlords
or
some
of
them
at
least,
and
my
understanding
is
that
we
will
be
in
touch
with
them.
We
just
haven't
got
to
that
stage
and
I'd
like
confirmation
of
that
and.
T
R
R
Absolutely
the
other
part
of
your
question
is
yes:
when,
when
the
municipality
or
the
public
authority
is,
has
the
opportunity
to
expropriate
land
from
a
property,
the
tenants
also
do
have
rights
under
this
Corporation
Act
for
damages
and
and
and
business
loss
claims
where
they
can
substantiate
them.
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
those
details
and
I,
don't
want
to
give
them
advice,
they
need
independent
advice,
but
that
is
possible.
T
Right,
just
also
in
saying
there
that
they
would
have
to
come
contact
their
own
legal
advisors,
something
like
that.
I
just
thought
it
was
important
to
let
them
know
they
are
being
considered
in
the
process
because
I'm
getting
the
message
that
they're
sort
of
at
sea
at
this
rate
at
the
moment
not
contacted
not
knowing
what's
gonna
happen.
It's
mr.
Van
Buren
pointed
out
that
is
going
to
happen.
So
did
you
want
to
say
something
further?
Mr.
B
S
Those
discussions
with
businesses
that
would
be
impacted
by
the
project
would
would
very
likely
look
no
different
than
how
we
would
approach
our
discussions
with
merchants
on
Princess
Street
as
part
of
her
big
big
big
project.
So
they
may
be
tenants
that
are
not
building
owners,
but
we
treat
them
as
though
they're
being
impacted
by
the
work,
so
gonna
be
very
important
to
us
to
make
sure
that
they're
going
to
be
well
advised
as
we
work
through
the
whole
process.
Here.
T
T
I'm
just
wondering,
oh,
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
from
what
mr.
Van
Buren
said
earlier.
Do
you
have
an
approximate
time
within
them?
Well,
you
could
decide
when
the
construction
of
the
bridge
will
start
and
when
it
will
end,
because
people
are
asking
this,
of
course,
because
they
it's
lead-up
time
for
businesses
and
and
and
residents
who
live
nearby
and
so
on.
Mr.
J
S
T
Thank
you
now,
we've
expressed
some
concern
about
the
bids
are
coming
in.
This
is
the
way
it
was
put
to
me.
The
bids
are
coming
into
Wednesday,
I.
Believe
and
my
understanding
is.
Those
bids
are
not
bids,
as
we
normally
understand
them,
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
explain
that
to
the
public
expenditure.
S
Through
year,
worship,
council
may
recall
that,
as
part
of
the
business
plan,
development
for
the
project,
part
of
it
was
a
procurement
options.
Analysis
where
we
looked
at
different
project
delivery
methods,
and
we
had
looked
at
a
range
of
different
options,
including
traditional
models
like
design-bid-build
design-build.
S
That
model
is
actually
a
multi-party
agreement
that
would
involve
the
city,
the
design
consultant
and
the
contractor,
and
the
idea
is
that
that
team
works
together
in
a
highly
collaborative
way
to
deliver
the
project
within
a
defined
project
budget.
So
in
this
case
the
180
million
dollar
project
budget
that
we
have
so
at
this
point
tomorrow,
when
we
close
the
request
for
proposals-
and
we
see
the
proposals
that
we
receive.
The
first
stage
is
basically
a
qualification
based
selection
process,
we're
looking
for
teams
that
can
exhibit
the
necessary
skills
and
experience.
S
T
B
Hutchison
so
giving
you
a
little
leeway
as
it's
timing
around
this
item,
because
this
is
respect
to
property
acquisition,
so
we
can
only
go
so
far
down
this
track
before
we're
we're
on
a
different
issue.
So
unless
you
want
to
reframe
about
timing
or
specifically
about
the
property
acquisition
item,
that's
before
us,
we
can't
necessarily
talk
about
the
entire
process
over
the
next
over
the
next
year's.
That's
all
I'm,
saying.
T
B
T
B
T
I'll,
ask
I'll,
ask
a
question
which
is
related
to
something
we've
been
asked
about,
and
then
you
can
rule
okay.
So
my
question
was:
if
tenders,
which
would
be
in
the
summer,
indicate
a
construction
price
which
is
excessive
of
the
estimates
previously
estimated
or
received
by
council.
Can
this
process
the
development
process
be
paused
for
re-examination?
T
B
S
I'm
gonna
start
with
a
with
offering
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do
through
our
communication
work
is
to
offer
some
more
public
education
as
it
relates
to
the
whole
IPD
procurement
model
that
we're
using
here.
So
we
can
help
the
public
understand
more
about
how
we're
procuring
this
particular
project,
as
I
had
mentioned
earlier.
The
basis
of
this
procurement
is
looking
for
a
PD,
an
integrated
project,
delivery
team
that
is
going
to
be
able
to
work
and
deliver
this
project
within
the
project
budget,
which
is
180
million
dollar
budget.
S
That's
been
established
for
the
project
in
response
to
your
more
specific
question
about.
Is
there
a
scenario
in
which
the
the
cost
can
come
higher?
Technically
there
is,
but
I
would
offer
that
that
has
been
mitigated
to
a
large
extent
through
all
the
work
that
we've
have
done
through
the
course
of
developing
the
EA,
a
preliminary
design
in
the
business
plan
which,
at
this
point
in
time
we
have
a
very
robust
Class,
B
construction
cost
estimate.
S
E
Worship
and
through
you
I
just
want
to
thank
the
delegation
for
their
questions.
I
think
we've
all
learned
a
little
bit
tonight
and
also
thank
staff
because
it
seems,
like
we've,
got
a
little
bit
of
a
plan
to
sort
of
work
through
those
and
deal
with
some
of
those
concerns.
So
basically
just
some
comments,
since
this
whole
thing
kind
of
hit
the
the
agenda.
My
phone
is
lit
up
with
people,
basically
in
favor
of
the
third
crossing
and
being
concerned
again
that
there
might
be
another
unforeseeable
delay
and
comments
like
we've
already
waited
50
years.
E
So
with
that
in
mind,
you
know
even
beyond
the
will
of
council
with
this
it's
it's
definitely
the
will
of
a
majority
of
Kingstonian,
so
I
think
it's
important
that
we
basically
continue
on
with
this,
and
this
is
more
just
giving
staff
the
ability
to
go
out
and
have
those
negotiations.
It's
been
mentioned
time
and
time
again.
Expropriation
is
simply
a
last
resort
and
it
should
be
considered
a
last
resort
and
it's
just
that
guarantee
so
that
we
can
actually
sign
those
contracts
and
get
this
actually
built.
So
again,
I
hope
everybody
supports
this.
E
It's
it's
something
that
needs
to
happen.
It's
gonna
happen
and
also
something
the
delegation
mentioned
was
that
it
wasn't
against
if
they're
crossing
you
just
had
some
concerns,
so
hopefully,
through
this
debate
and
everything
we
believed
those
concerns
and
we'll
have
a
good
process
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
You
regards
to
the
delegation
two
points
that
he
suggested
for
dealing
fairly
just
see
if
they're
covered
here.
He
mentioned
that
recovery
of
all
reasonable
fees
does
that
include
legal
fees
for
independent
counsel.
Mr.
Issa,
yes,
and
so
I
mentioned
that
the
pasta
that
he
would
like
the
possibility
of
trading
land
and
not
using
cash.
Is
that
also
a
possibility
during
the
negotiations?
H
R
M
So
if
you
move
the
property-
and
it's
Europe,
your
property,
that
you
would
gain
tax
on,
it
would
be
turned
into
a
rollover
tax,
and
you
would
have
two
years
approximately
until
you
could
buy
something
else
in
replacement
of
it
or
you
would
have
to
pay
the
tax
or
you
would
do
something
I
think
we
you
had
some
information
on
it.
Mr.
R
If
the
property
owner
is
subject
to
capital
gains
based
on
the
value
that
the
city
compensates
owner
for
the
property
through
through
a
taking
for
a
public
infrastructure
project,
then
there
is
the
option
to
replace
that
property
and
defer
the
capital
gains
onto
that
property
so
that
there
isn't
a
tax
hit
in
in
that
year
or
subsequent
years.
The
in
the
the
two-year
window
that
you
mentioned
the
owner
needs
to
seek
the
financial
tax
advice
necessary
to
do
that.
There
are
rules
with
that
with
the
Income
Tax
Act.
But
yes,
that
is
possible
great.
B
A
B
B
L
L
I
know
that
the
art-
and
it
could
be
a
compelling
argument
that
when
I
Drive
to
Prince
Edward
County
or
if
I
Drive
up
to
Bancroft,
there
are
pockets
that
will
know
that
now
I
can't
get
sell,
but
I
would
in
future,
but
for
the
immediate
area
is
there?
Can
you
suggest
there'll
be
valued
clear
value
at
it?
For
the
community's
investment
say
hunter
you
I'm.
I
Gonna
ask
Creek
desert
to
add
to
my
comments
if
he
chooses,
but
to
give
you
an
idea,
the
city
by
itself
could
not
begin
to
close
some
of
the
gaps
here
right
in
the
city.
I
think.
The
way
you
need
to
look
at
this
is
that,
as
as
more
more
users
get
on
to
a
network,
the
the
capacity
that
network
becomes
more
minimal
and
as
a
result
of
that,
more
and
more
people
are
going
to
experience,
gaps
in
service
or
drop
calls.
I
So
when
you
start
thinking
about
the
future,
where
you
have
electronics
in
your
home,
that
start
to
need
to
feed
information
back
to
you
to
tell
you
whether
or
not
you
know
they're
running
properly
or
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
get
you
know
to
be
able
to
use
the
future
of
technology.
We
can
call
some
of
that.
The
Internet
of
Things,
if
you
will
there's
gonna,
have
to
be
capacity.
If
there
isn't
capacity,
then
the
whole
region
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
benefit.
I
If
we
talk
about
autonomous
vehicles
as
an
example,
when
autonomous
vehicles
start
to
become
the
norm
or
when
shipments
come
from
warehouses
in
Eastern,
Ontario
and
and
go
through
the
corridor
of
the
401,
and
there
are
label
electronic
labels
on
those
particular
shipments
that
basically
track
that
shipment
from
where
it
is
in
the
warehouse
to
where
it's
going.
If
if
there
are
sections
along
the
401,
which
is
the
main
corridor,
it
can't
receive
and
keep
that
information
you're
going
to
have
lost
information.
So
this
really
becomes
a
backbone
to
the
economy
of
the
future.
I
But
in
the
in
the
short
term,
there's
definitely
payback
as
a
result
of
that
capacity,
expansion
and
the
sell
gaps
and,
in
fact,
I
just
spoke
with
the
what
David
before
he
left.
Mr.
fellow
and
and
he's
very
interested
in
working
and
using
the
towers
that
are
already
here
and
in
existence
in
Kingston.
He
wasn't
aware
of
some
of
the
ones
that
we
have
at
this
stage
and
he
wasn't
aware
of
some
of
the
ones
the
utilities
Kingston
have
on
the
fur
fill
and
as
a
result
of
that,
he
made
a
commitment
tonight.
I
U
You
your
worship,
through
the
councillor
Maneri
estimates
that
I've
seen,
show
that
they
we
can
leverage
almost
fifteen
million
dollars
with
the
investment
of
nine
hundred
and
fifty
four
thousand
by
the
city
of
kingston.
So
there's
certainly
significant
ROI.
That
will
come
from
the
federal
and
provincial
contribution
in
the
private
sector,
so
the
investment
we
make
or
that
you
direct
to
make
tonight
will
leverage
significant
resources.
A.
B
Communication
infrastructure
ensures
that
we
are
on
the
cutting
edge
as
a
community
and
I
was
in
a
meeting
with
other
mayor's
across
the
eastern
Ontario,
probably
been
a
month
ago
when
we
were
talking
about
this
project
and
what
was
very
clear
to
us
was
the
cost
of
not
doing.
This
is
that
Eastern
Ontario
would
be
left
behind,
but
if
we
move
on
this,
we
have
an
opportunity,
as
a
region
and
as
a
city
to
be
on
the
cutting
edge
and
that's
critical.
B
L
B
B
A
B
B
That
carries
ok,
nothing
from
Committee
of
the
whole
information
reports.
If
you
have
a
question,
just
raise
your
hand,
number
1,
2018
priority
status,
matrix
q1
update,
caused
our
report
to
report
on
agreements
executed
under
delegated
approval
and
signing
Authority
January
1st
2018
to
March
31st
2018
number
3,
North
Kingstown
secondary
plan
project;
oh
I'm,
sorry,
Qasr,
standings,
up
for
number
2
and
number
3
number
3:
okay,
North
Kingstown
secondary
plan
project
up
top
T.
G
Thank
you,
mom
I'm
Shep.
My
question
for
about
the
North
Kingstown
secondary
plan
is
specifically
the
transportation
plan.
That's
in
it
so
do
we
know
what
month
or
a
year,
we
might
see
those
alternatives
if
there
isn't
going
to
be
the
Wellington
Street
extension.
The
report
says
they're
looking
at
alternative
routes
and
it
doesn't
look
like
it
would
be
this
term
account.
So
do
we
know
when
that
might
come
back
to
council
a.
B
V
Thank
you
and
through
you
so
that
work
is
being
advanced.
It
is
quite
technical
nature
and
takes
a
period
of
time.
I'm
meeting
with
the
consultants
next
week,
we're
walking
and
doing
the
land
use
plan
first
and
and
looking
at
making
sure
that
we
understand
specifically
phalanges
plan.
So
then
the
transportation
can
feed
into
it.
So
it
is,
it
is
still
gonna
take
a
period
of
time.
I
don't
have
an
exact
date,
but
I
can
provide
that
to
you
I'm
following
the
meeting.
B
Okay,
we
have
no
information
reports
for
members
of
council
miscellaneous
business.
We
have
a
couple
of
motions
first,
that,
as
requested
by
Kol
and
a
public
health
Council
proclaim
March
11th
2018
is
that
March
11th?
Is
that
correct?
Okay,
March,
11th
2018
is
50
years
of
kfl
and
a
public
health
day
in
the
City
of
Kingston
kind
of
a
mover,
please
back
where
were
a
couple
months
late,
but
that's:
okay,
moved
by
Councillor
she'll,
a
second
by
councillor,
Turner.
B
And
that
carries
and
number
three
that
notwithstanding
section
three
point,
one
point:
four:
subsection
5
of
the
illumination
of
city
facilities
policy,
Kingston
City
Council
approved
the
elimination
of
City
Hall
in
Springer
Market
Square
on
May
11,
the
2018
for
the
shine
green
campaign
and
recognition
of
Ontario
Mental
Health
Awareness
Week
I
have
a
mover.
Please
move
by
Deputy,
Mayor,
Hall
and
seconded
by
councillor
ro
sanic.