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A
A
B
B
It's
been
a
really
turbulent
time
and
I'm
not
going
to
say
much
right
now,
but
I
actually
do
want
to
ask
james
to
put
up
a
slide
because
we're
going
to
start
right
away
quite
quickly
and
get
us
moving
into
action,
and
I
want
to
give
you
each
30
seconds
and
I'm
going
to
get
you
james
to
go.
The
next
slide
pass
brian.
B
I
want
to
give
you
each
an
opportunity-
and
it's
a
30
second
exercise-
we're
doing
this
in
five
minutes,
just
to
get
the
ground
running
and
get
us
all
revved
up.
I
want
you
to
share
one
superhero
skill
or
competency
that
you've
developed
since
covet
19
hit,
and
I
think
we've
all
had
to
adapt
and
one
thing
that
you've
heard
from
the
public
or
constituents
about
the
strategic
plan,
implementation
to
date
and
again
just
a
thirty
second,
your
name
superhero
competency
and
something
that
you
wanna
share
in
terms
of
the
strategic
plan.
B
C
D
D
B
E
Yeah
sure
thanks,
I
definitely
think
like
I.t
technical
skills
right
so
there's
zoom,
also
teams.
We
started
using
teams
at
work
a
lot,
but
I
wasn't
using
it
very
much
and
then
kovit
struck,
and
so
now
I
am
a
teams
expert.
So
it's
really
forced
the
I.t
part
on
which
is
all
a
good
thing
to
have
right.
E
And
so
even
though,
like
life
was
really
chaotic
for
us,
like
it,
just
all
continued
on
all
the
things
and
then
and
then
it
was
like
ketchup.
Oh
my
goodness,
like
we
gotta
somehow
get
this
done
and
not
done
so
anyway.
That's
what
I'm
hearing
but
right
now
is
housing.
We've
really
heard
a
lot
about
housing.
That
was
never.
It
was
always
on
the
agenda,
but
now
it's
come
more
to
the
forefront
with
covet.
F
F
G
There
we
go.
Thank
you,
I'm
nowhere
near
a
superhero.
However,
the
closest
I
get
is
when
I.t
and
the
clerks
are
helping
me
cope
with
with
something
and
I'm
like
a
lot
of
us,
I'm
really
sick
and
tired
of
talking
to
a
computer.
But
having
said
that,
zoom
does
facilitate
a
lot
of
us
being
able
to
function
through
this,
I'm
also
on
kfla
public
health,
and
I'm
really
really
proud
of
how
the
city,
our
city
and
region
is
doing
so
well
in
fighting
the
pandemic.
G
B
H
Sounds
good,
I
would
say,
I've
really
augmented
my
inner
introvert
teaching
online
everything
with
council
online,
seeing
100th
of
the
people
that
I
normally
see
in
daily
life.
So
it's
been
a
challenge,
but
it's
also
been
good
personal
growth
so
to
all
the
introverts
out
there
you
are
superheroes
and
I've
learned
how
to
be
one
too,
and
as
far
as
learning,
I
actually
think
the
mayor's
or
brian's
comments
at
the
beginning
were
spot
on
what
I've
heard
from
email
reading
through
the
feedback
from
the
public
from
get
involved.
I
I
Housing
and
homelessness
constantly
all
day
long
and
and
the
thing
that
has
struck
me,
though,
and
maybe
something
to
do
with,
are
not
criticizing
anybody,
but
communications
is
people.
I
don't
think
people
yet
understand
the
fundamental
way
in
which
coving
has
changed
the
way
the
city
has
to
operate,
which
is
probably
what
we're
dealing
with
tonight
right
and
he
tried
to
explain
it,
but
there's
no
quick
way
of
getting
across
what's
happening,
and
you
know
that
if
we
don't
have
as
much.
K
L
Thanks,
okay,
so
superhero
ish,
I
guess
what
I've
learned
or
one
of
the
skills
I've
developed
is
how
to
communicate.
I
guess
started
to
rob's
point,
what's
happening,
who
who
people
should
speak
to
where,
when
in
a
very
dynamic
environment,
that
it's
always
been
something
I've
been
interested
in
sort
of
doing
a
referral
type?
That's
sort
of
been
my
thing.
L
I
understand
a
lot
about
the
provincial
policies
and-
and
I
guess
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
share
that
information
most
effectively,
so
that
people
are
feeling
reassured
and
empowered
in
a
time.
That's
very
scary
and
difficult.
So
the
what
I'm
hearing
housing
homelessness.
That's
it
really.
I
mean
in
terms
of
priorities,
yes,
the
environment,
but
but
the
urgency
of
ensuring
that
we
are
caring
for
our
most
vulnerable.
L
M
Thank
you
very
much,
susan,
I'm
a
mere
mortal.
I
don't
have
any
superpowers
other
than
I
think
my
bs
detector
has
really
been
honed
in
for
this
and
I'm
able
to
smell
through
all
the
bologna
and
it's
it's
unfortunate.
Sometimes
it
feels
like
a
curse
as
far
as
what
I've
heard
from
constituents
there's
a
great
concerns
about
the
parks.
M
A
I
think
it's
just
oh
my
are
we
okay,
I
think
it's
perhaps
the
ability
to
stay
calm
and
collected
no
matter
what
craziness
is
going
on
and
the
the
city
of
the
community,
so
that's
certainly
a
job.
I
I
try
to
try
to
embrace
and
I'm
hearing
from
the
community.
I
think
I'll
just
just
restate
it
that
I
think
our
priorities
are
right.
B
B
So
I
I
want
to
say
it's
been
since
the
spring
of
2019
that
I
last
saw
you
all
and
we
were
locked
up
in
rooms,
doing
all
kinds
of
amazing
planning,
and
then
I
got
to
see
the
final
plan
and
all
the
details,
and
I
have
to
tell
you.
I
voraciously
read
your
september
15th
document
that
came
from
the
ceo's
office
and
I
was
amazed
at
what
you
were
able
to
accomplish
given
covet
19..
B
You
all
know
this
great
strategic
planning
is
really
about
pivoting,
it's
about
having
a
plan
and
then
constantly
going
back
and
checking
in
are
we
on
target?
Has
anything
changed?
So
it's
about
strategic
thinking
and
paying
attention
to
the
environment
as
it
changes
so
kovit's.
A
big
teacher
on
this,
because
the
need
to
reprioritize
and
to
defer
and
and
ultimately
maybe
to
add
some
new
things
is
key.
B
This
session
is
the
first
of
two
sessions
of
one
meeting
and
the
goal
is
really
to
refresh
the
strategic
plan
in
light
of
covid.
So
you'll
see
in
front
of
you
there's
five
key
goals
we
have,
and
the
first
is
really
to
get
a
sense
of
where
we
add
against
the
five
strategic
priorities.
I
know
you've
received
reports,
but
we're
going
to
actually
do
this
again
and
we're
going
to
do
the
bi-color
band
and
I'll
explain
that
to
you
in
a
minute.
B
I
want
us
to
agree
as
we
go
through
the
next
two
sessions
on
what
are
those
things
that
we're
reprioritizing
that
we're
deferring?
We
may
be
stopping
or
waiting
or
pausing
until
something
changes
in
the
environment
and
new
things
as
well,
because
I
I
certainly
know
I
saw
what
you
were
doing
with
homelessness
this
spring.
It
was
immediate
response
and
a
very
strategic
one.
So
there
may
be
some
new
things
and
some
of
your
opening
comments.
You
shared
those.
B
So
you
will
get
a
short
report
on
fiscal
parameters
and
then
we're
going
to
do
a
little
round
table
get
a
sense
of
where
everyone's
at
around
the
tax
rate
and
just
touch
in
on
that
to
determine
how
council
might
want
to
move
forward
with
with
the
financial
side
of
things.
And
then
we
are
going
to
go
literally
segment
by
segment.
B
Looking
at
our
initiatives
and
they've
been
color
coded
and
you'll
notice,
in
the
exhibit
that
you
received
the
one
today
that
there
are
four
colors
and
we
will
be
going
through
those
four
colors,
because
they
each
represent
a
kind
of
type
of
challenge
by
bundle,
and
I
think
it's
more
strategic
to
look
at
them
together.
So
we
don't
get
caught
in
that
rabbit,
hole
thing
that
can
happen
where
we
start
talking
about
really
discreet
initiatives.
B
B
So
you'll
see
that
and
you'll
see
this
corresponds
with
your
slides.
What
what
has
been
done
is
each
initiative
and
the
strategic
plan
has
been
color
coded
according
to
where
it's
at
against
sort
of
expectation.
So
the
green
are
all
about
those
initiatives
that
are
well
underway.
They
may
have
some
small
delays,
but
they're
they're
plucking
along
they're
doing
well,
and
so
it's
important.
B
We
look
at
those
and
confirm
yes,
we're
still
doing
well
with
them
and
to
have
a
small
discussion
on
that
they're
pretty
straightforward,
but
we
will
take
some
time
to
look
at
them
and
ask
questions
and
sort
of
reconfirm
our
commitment
to
having
staff
operationalize
this
work.
There
are
a
bundle
of
activities
that
are
coated
in
a
red,
color
classically.
You
can
see
we're
following
the
the
stoplight
signal
here.
These
are
things
that
are
absolutely
outside
of
the
city's
control.
B
There
are
activities
that
depend
on
partners
or
on
variables
that
have
changed
so
dramatically
that
they're
kind
of
quagmired
and
stopped
because,
for
example,
a
partner
may
not
be
able
to
contribute
they've
been
sent
off
on
another
priority.
So
again,
we're
going
to
look
at
those
together
hear
about
them
from
the
staff
have
some
time
to
discuss
them
and
decide.
If
we
can,
you
know
close
that
piece
up
until
a
future
date
when
those
factors
or
variables
change,
but
we
want
to
give
you
some
time
to
look
at
them
together.
B
The
yellow
ones
are
those
activities
that
have
been
delayed
and
are
really
quite
challenging
at
this
time
to
address,
and
that's
because
there's
been
external
changes
or
there's
been
changes
in
the
market.
Timing
has
been
delayed
or
there
are
fiscal
and
staff
constraints
that
have
emerged
because
of
responses
to
covet
and
and
the
work
hasn't
been
able
to
proceed
because
other
things
took
precedence.
B
These
are
initiatives
that
the
corporate
staff
recommend
to
delay,
or
deferral
and
they're
going
to
present
them
to
you
tonight,
because
they
will
either
affect
the
tax
rate
or
require
additional
corporate
capacity.
So
that's
how
those
have
been
bundled
and
the
last
are
blue
and
blue,
like
a
blue
sky,
these
are
new
initiatives
that
we
may
identify
as
being
really
important
and
essential
going
forward
and
that
will
address
very
pressing
and
important
needs
in
the
community.
B
So
that's
what
we're
up
to
today.
I
just
want
to
put
those
up,
so
you
can
follow
the
color
code
and
james
I'm
going
to
ask
you
if
you
could
to
flip
me
to
the
next
slide.
So
you've
all
worked
with
me.
I'm
not
going
to
spend
a
huge
amount
of
time
on
this,
but
you'll
always
notice
that
my
preference
in
these
sessions
is
that
everybody
engages.
We
have
a
discussion.
B
I
have
asked
ceo
or
ceo
lanny
hertl,
to
jump
in
if
she
thinks
there's
some
information
she
may
have.
That
would
help
you
understand
operational
realities
and
the
viability
of
some
of
these
projects,
because
some
things
there
are
viability,
issues
related
to
them
tonight.
Please
stay
on
point
and
on
time
and
I
will
actually
follow
a
speaker's
list.
I
will
ask
you
to
raise
your
hand
if
you
want
to
speak.
B
B
I
will
sometimes
set
time
limitations.
This
is
a
big
conversation
and
we
could
spend
all
night
here.
We
could
go
into
a
rabbit
hole
for
40
minutes,
and
so
my
job
is
to
pull
us
back
out
and
to
make
a
proposal
that
we
move
along,
and
the
mayor
has
very
adeptly
and
always
with
his
great
panache,
agreed
to
call
a
vote
or
propose
a
solution
if
we
get
stuck
and
to
follow
the
whole
democratic
process
which
he
does
so
well.
B
I
want
to
remind
you
once
a
priority:
is
endorsed
council
as
a
whole,
accepts
it
and
will
stand
by
it
and
as
we
move
along,
we
may
I
may
need
to
suggest
parking
lot
items
for
later
and
permission
to
move
along.
Lastly,
I
know
you're
all
very
good
at
this,
but
let's
have
patience
with
the
technology.
There
will
be
time,
slides,
come
up
and
down
we'll
be
moving
things
around.
There
may
be
some
pauses
in
in
in
the
meeting,
but
just
to
be
patient
with
that
process.
B
Does
that
sound
good
in
terms
of
a
a
process?
Okay,
so
james
is
going
to
get
you
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
and
I
have
two
questions
for
you.
I
wondered
if
you
could
put
the
two
up
for
me
and
I
would
actually
invite
counselors
and
again.
This
is
succinct,
we're
revving
ourselves
up
and
we're
grounding
ourselves
in
what
we
know.
So
these
two
questions
I
would
like
each
counselor
to
touch
down
on
these.
B
One
is:
what
do
you
feel
that
we've
done
really
well
or
succeeded,
not
and
something
that's
feeling
delayed?
I
I
want
to
suggest
you
keep
your
your
comments
on
point
and
focused
not
long,
because
we're
going
to
go
through
and
hear
from
everyone,
and
I
want
each
new
speaker
to
present
something
new
and
you're
welcome
to
pass.
If
someone
said
what
you
wanted
to
say,
so
we
will
go
through
the
speakers
list
and
I'll
cue
you
now.
One
thing
I
do
want
to
say
is
to
create
the
sense
of
a
discussion.
B
If
one
of
you
wants
to
comment
on
someone
else's
comment,
you
can
put
your
hand
up
and
we'll
drop
you
in
the
queue
but
I'll
otherwise
prompt
you
according
to
a
list.
Okay.
Does
that
sound
good?
So
a
reminder?
What
have
we
done
well
and
what
has
been
delayed
or
what
have
been
some
of
the
challenges
going
forward,
and
I
guess
I
would
like
to
start
with
lisa.
E
Great
thanks:
well,
I've
definitely
been
happy
that
we've
still
continued
with
all
the
road
work.
I
think
maybe
a
few
projects
had
to
get
deferred
till
next
year,
but
I
want
to
thank
with
staff
that
we've
still
been
focusing
on
the
roads
this
year
and
I've
been
happy
with
that
and
then
key
priorities
that
have
been
most
delayed
to
date.
None
that
I'm
upset
with.
Like
you
know.
E
F
Well,
I
think
what
we've
what
I've
seen
that
we've
done
well
is
again,
I
want
to
commend
the
staff
for
and
rob
hutchison's
district
of
the
housing
situation.
I
think
that's
carried
a
lot
of
angst
and
I
think,
we've
seen
a
real
focus
there
very,
very
difficult
file
and
a
tremendous
media
pressure,
and
so
I
think
that
something
we,
I
believe
is
a
success,
because
I
toured
artillery
park
and
I'm
very
impressed
with
the
people
and
everybody's
best
efforts
there.
So
I
think
that's
great
and
what
has
been
delayed.
F
B
G
I
think
I'll
just
leave
this
on
unmute
and
you
can
hear
my
dog
occasionally,
but
I
won't
delay
by
the
forgetting
to
unmute
myself.
I
think
we
got
off
to
a
really
really
solid
start
with
our
climate
crisis
focus.
Now.
I
appreciate
the
rationale
for
having
to
delay
some
of
the
more
costly
things,
but
a
lot
of
our
priorities.
G
G
All
of
the
core
counselors
in
the
downtown
will
probably
agree
that
one
of
our
biggest
headaches
continually
is
property
standards
and
by
law
enforcement
and,
as
the
chair
of
planning
planning
is
always
contentious
in
kingston.
So
I
noticed
the
two
unfilled
physicians
and
maybe
lanny
later
can
comment
on.
This
are
one
is
in
planning
and
one
is
in
in
property
standards
and
enforcement,
and
I
think
I
I
think
if
that
indeed
is
affecting
those
departments,
then
saving
money
by
not
backfilling
positions
in
those
cases,
probably
isn't
the
best
idea.
H
H
I
actually
don't
know
where
the
things
I'm
going
to
mention
fall
in
the
timeline,
so
maybe
not
they're
not
delayed,
but
I'm
definitely
itching
to
see
them
and
that's
the
density
by
design
policy
document,
particularly
the
land
use
economics
portion
of
that
to
get
a
sense
of
what
is
a
reasonable
proposal
based
on
where
it
may
lie
in
the
city.
So
again
I
don't
know
if
it's
actually
delayed,
but
I'm
definitely
looking
forward
to
you
see
that
and
I
hope
it
can
continue
to
go
forward.
A
Thanks
suzanne,
I
think
just
building
on
mary
rita's
comments.
I
think,
when
I
think
of
the
housing
file.
You
know
we
have
a
target
to
see
several
thousand
housing
units
built
over
our
council
term
and
I
think
we're
we're
well
on
our
way.
The
number
of
cranes
and
construction
that
is
across
the
city
think
that's
really
positive.
I
think
we
need
to
build
that
supply.
A
I
think
where,
where
I
think
we've
had
more
challenges,
of
course,
is
on
the
affordable
housing
piece
because
that's
more
complex,
that's
where
we
need
to
line
up
funding
from
other
levels
of
government,
and
so
it's
been
nice
that
we've,
you
know
just
recently
approved
a
project
and
applying
for
it
and
now
we're
really
moving
into
the
advocacy
phase.
But
I
know
that
there's
there's
such
a
need
on
the
affordable
and
supportive
housing
piece,
and
I
think
that
that
advocacy
is
going
to
be
critical
for
us.
The
next
few
years.
D
Yeah,
so
basically,
it's
probably
gonna,
be
no
shocker,
what
I'm
gonna
say,
but
the
third
crossing
progressive
and
basically
being
able
to
find
a
way
to
work
and
throughout
the
entire
slowdown,
so
that
that's
more
something
where,
with
a
project
of
that
magnitude,
any
stoppages
would
bring
possibly
like
large
cost
overruns.
So
the
fact
that
they've
been
able
to
work
through
those
challenges
and
keep
that
project
on
schedule
today
is
is
great
and
it
ties
into
you
know
improving.
D
It's
something
where
it's
always
going
to
be
a
challenge,
but
especially
in
times
like
this,
it's
even
more
important.
So
when
we
don't
have
a
robust
framework
in
place
that
can
engage
rural
residents,
so
those
voices
get
more
and
more
frustrated
and
start
to
feel
unheard.
And
unfortunately,
after
that
goes
on
so
long,
they
start
to
just
you
know,
and
they
start
to
feel
this
confidence.
That's
the
ongoing
challenge.
M
Thank
you.
I'm
really
really
delighted
that
on
point
we're
able
to
look
at
taking
care
of
some
of
our
wetlands
and
working
with
lisa
with
sanik
and
turtles
kingston
having
that,
as
on
robert
kylie
as
well
that
corridor
on
highway
2
to
help
protect
those
very
important
species.
I
I
got
teased
a
lot
about
the
fact
I
like
turtles,
but
I'm
so
glad
that
that's
on
point-
and
you
know
I
ended
up
giving
up
some
development
of
parks
and
that
is
to
in
reality
to
see
that
happen.
M
M
C
C
B
Thank
you,
hi
jeff,
welcome,
good
to
see
you
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we're
just
doing
some
reflective
work
up
front
before
we
start
to
dig
in,
and
I
wondered
if
you
could
answer
for
me.
One
thing
you
feel
the
city's
done
really
well
in
terms
of
accomplishments
and
then
one
thing
that's
been
delayed
or
challenging.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I'm
going
to
ask
you
james
to
put
up
question
number
three
there's
one
last
question.
I
wanted
us
to
root
into
because
I
think
there's
always
an
opportunity
to
learn
from
some
of
the
challenging
spaces
and
places
we've
been
in,
and
covet's
certainly
done
that
I
wanted
to
give
you
each
an
opportunity
to
share
anything
that
council's
learned
or
that
you
feel
has
been
a
learning
lesson,
especially
given
covert
19,
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
going
forward.
B
A
Thanks
susan,
I
think
that
the
first
word
that
comes
to
mind
is
it's
the
need
to
be
nimble
and
to
be
flexible
and-
and
I
think
if,
if
that's
something
that
we've
seen
over
the
last
six
months,
I
think
that's
something.
We're
gonna
need
to
continue
to
have
over
the
next
two
years,
as
we
continue
to
to
grapple
with
these
challenges.
A
D
Ryan,
I
think
it's
going
to
tie
in
a
little
bit
with
what
brian
said,
but
basically
just
an
adaptability-
and
I
think
part
of
it
is
it
was
a
whole
new
challenge
of
you
know
for
a
little
people
learning
how
to
do
their
work
differently,
how
to
do
their
work
remotely
how
to
keep
their
work
with
their
entire
family
at
home.
So
I
think
part
of
that
was
a
lot
of
people
had
to
get
creative,
and
part
of
that
is
is
basically
some
of
those
lessons
learned.
Not
everything
that's
come
out
of.
D
Kobit
19
has
been
bad.
I
think
we've
learned
just
how
functional
virtual
meetings
can
be
in
sometimes
and
and
that
at
times
they're,
probably
even
you
know
reducing
traveling
and
a
lot
of
things
where
people
would
fly
or
drive
or
they
could
train
across
the
country
for
a
meeting
now
they're,
just
realizing
hey,
you
know
what
we
can
do
that
through
zoom
or
or
all
these
other
platforms.
D
M
Yes,
just
to
lead
off
of
what
brian
had
said,
you
have
to
be
nimble
and
quick.
I
also
think
we
have
to
be
fiscally
prudent
and
it
really
concerns
me
of
having
discussions
around
increasing
delegated
authority,
where
I
think,
if
council
ends
up
wearing
a
lot
of
the
decisions
through
the
course
of
colvit.
L
I
I
think
communication
is
really
important
and
sort
of
what
we're
doing
tonight
is
helpful
in
that
I
think
people,
not
not.
The
people
in
the
community
are
waiting
and
wondering
what's
going
to
happen
next
to
their
priorities,
necessarily,
but
just
knowing
that
we
are,
we
are
continually
evaluating
the
situation
and
moving
moving
in
a
direction
that
is
sensible.
L
That
sort
of
takes
all
of
these
factors
into
consideration
is
something
I
think
we
need
to
do
on
a
daily
basis,
so
to
touch
on
some
of
the
other
points
that
were
raised
in
terms
of
fiscal
responsibility
and
and
just
ensuring
that
that
safety
and
health,
and
that
are
the
the
biggest
priority,
and,
of
course,
that
extends
to
the
health
of
the
planet
and
some
of
the
other
objectives
that
we
have.
I
think
we
have
to
have
a
very.
C
Thanks
working
together,
you've
done
such
a
great
and
fabulous
job
working
together
as
a
community,
and
I
think
the
most
resilient
cities
are
the
ones
with
this
shared
sense
of
community
and
that's,
regardless
of
what
issue
we're
trying
to
need
to
address
whether
it's
covert
or
racism
or
homelessness.
It's
the
by
coming
together.
C
We
will
we
we're
stronger
and
we
make
better
decisions
and-
and
we
find
expertise,
we
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
great
people
in
our
community
and
and
we
have
seen
that
through
covert
as
well
with
our
response
to
covert.
So
I
would
like
to
yeah
so
working
together.
I
think
that's
the
the
greatest
accomplishment
and
what
needs
to
continue
and
we
need
to
further
develop
them.
B
I
Much
same
as
bridget
was
saying
about
the
resilience
of
the
community
and
how
much
we
are
reliant
on
them
and
ourselves
for
facing
up
to
covet
and
dealing
with
it.
I'm
apparently
gonna
have
to
do
it
again,
also
that
there
are
real
challenges
and
restrictions
when
we
are
losing
money
and
staff
are
overworked,
particularly
around
small
things.
You
know
the
counselor
mentioned
you
know
like
road
maintenance,
which
is
really
good.
H
I
think
mary
rita
said
it
well
about
communication
and
doubling
down
on
our
effort
to
engage
citizens
and
help
them
understand
the.
Why
of
whatever
it
is,
we're
doing
that
hit
me
really
hard
around
our
request
of
the
province
for
a
regional
approach,
which,
frankly,
I
think
was
misconstrued
and
written.
A
number
of
things
that
have
happened
during
covid
bell
park
is
another
great
example
where
I
think
the
right
action
was
taken
by
staff
and
backed
by
council,
but
perhaps
residents
didn't
quite
understand
the
reasoning.
G
G
Having
said
that,
I
think
at
the
peak
of
the
crisis
management
we
did
delegated
authority
and
it
was
frustrating
because
I
was
counselors
were
reading
about
decisions
in
the
in
the
media
and
getting
calls
about
decisions
we
weren't
even
aware
of
and
so
so
communication.
Both
external
and
internal
could
definitely
and
has
been
improved,
but
can
continue
to
be
so.
E
Thank
you.
The
only
thing
I
wanted
to
add,
and
this
might
be
in
contradiction
to
what
jim
just
said,
but
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
their
fast
communication,
because
every
question
that
I've
sent
into
staff
that
have
come
from
a
resident
I've
had
really
fast
turnover
and
response
back
as
to
what
to
tell
them,
even
if
it
might
not
be
a
lot
of
detail,
you
know
just
high
level.
E
F
B
B
G
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
saw
him
appear
with
the
signs
saying
working
and
then
he
went
off
screen
again.
Mary
rita
was
that
what
you
were
going
to
say:
okay,
okay,
so
james!
If
it's
okay,
I'd
like
you
to
put
up
slide
nine
for
me.
So,
just
as
we
were
going
over
the
goals
of
tonight,
I
had
mentioned
we're
going
to
look
at
initiatives
in
the
strategic
plan
by
sort
of
color
code,
and
so
before
we
take
a
break.
B
It
won't
be
a
very
long,
long
conversation,
but
it
will
be
focused
and
then
we'll
spend
some
time
talking
about
the
yellow
items
which
again
you'll
see
in
your
charts,
and
those
are
things
that
are
are
particularly
challenging
right
now
for
the
city
to
address
and
there's
recommended
delays
or
deferrals.
And
then
the
fun
part
at
the
end
of
the
night
is
talk
about
new
things
again,
trying
to
think
about
those
things.
That
would
be
the
most
focused
appropriate
responses
given
high
knees
in
the
community.
B
So
that's
what
we're
up
to
and
we're
going
to
move
to
the
next
slide
james.
So
we're
going
to
start
with
the
green
initiatives.
Now,
there's
a
lot
of
them.
So
we
would
like
you
to
look
at
your
exhibit
b,
the
new
one
you
got
today
and
lanny's,
going
to
do
a
presentation
and
include
commissioners
about
where
things
are
at
with
the
green
initiatives
and
then
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
floor
for
questions
of
clarity.
B
Now
you
all
know
me,
you
know
what
I
you.
You
know
me
with
my
questions
at
clarity.
I
want
you
to
ask
questions
that
clarify
for
you
what
you
need
to
know
more
fulsomely
to
understand
the
initiative.
This
is
not
an
opportunity.
When
asked
for
question
of
clarity
to
weigh
in
on
an
issue.
We
will
actually
go
into
motion
and
there'll
be
space
for
discussion
at
that
point
and
the
mayor's
kindly
agreed
to
support
that
democratic
process.
O
O
You
know
we've
worked
more
closely
with
public
health
in
the
past
six
months,
and
I
can
remember
prior
to
that,
there's
no
doubt
that
this
has
been
very
a
very
challenging
time
for
for
staff
and
and
people
in
our
community
across
the
world.
Actually,
so,
in
terms
of
the
green
initiatives,
I'm
not
gonna
go
through
all
of
them
one
by
one,
because
there
are
so
many
of
them,
but
I
would
like
to
maybe
touch
on
a
few
things
that
I
heard
from
membership
council.
O
So,
first
of
all,
in
terms
of
housing,
we
we
are
still
proceeding
in
our
target
with
the
different
housing
initiatives.
So
I
know
that
was
mentioned,
so
that
is,
is
not
being
impacted
by
kobe
19.
roads
same
thing.
The
work
is
still
continuing
on
our
roads.
We're
not
proposing
to
to
defer
that
work.
It
has
started
and
will
continue.
O
O
There
were
also
some
comments
made
around
diversity
and
inclusion,
not
that
it's
included
in
the
priorities,
but
as
councils
where
we
have
started
some
work
on
this
particular
matter,
it's
quite
important
in
the
community
on
the
staffing
piece.
What
you've
received
is
actually
a
north
chart
that
was
endorsed
in
early
2020.
O
O
I
do
have
to
say
that
definitely,
some
of
our
efforts
in
bylaw
enforcement
were
redirected
from
property
standards
to
enforcement,
to
work
closely
with
our
public
health
to
make
sure
we
could
enforce
the
legislation
and
the
measures
that
needed
to
be
put
in
place.
So
that
was
critical
and
you
definitely
saw
some
shifts
there.
There's
no
question
about
that.
O
O
There
are
some
side
delays
here
and
there
one
of
them
dealing
with
our
strategy
or
our
community
strategy
and,
of
course,
engagement
was
challenging
for
a
while.
We
have
found
ways
to
try
to
address
that,
but
it
was
definitely.
There
was
a
period
of
time
during
march
april
and
may,
when
that
was
was
quite
challenging.
O
The
number
of
housing
units
currently
endorsed
by
council
are
well
above
the
target
of
90
units
over
the
term
of
council
in
terms
of
affordable
housing
units,
so
we
have
exceeded
that.
We
know
that
there's
more
need,
there's
no
question
about
that,
and
that's
why
we
have
been
trying
to
stretch
the
dollars
and
also
looking
at
housing
that
is
not
was
not
initially
contemplated
in
our
strategic
plan,
where
we're
truly
focusing
on
more
independent
housing.
O
We
are
now
also
looking
at
supportive
and
transitional
housing
because
we
recognize
that
we've
seen
we've
seen
a
significant
need
in
the
community,
especially
with
dealing
with
some
of
our
homelessness
challenges
so
through.
Overall,
there
are
a
lot
of
the
initiatives
that
council
did
endorse
that
are
currently
moving
ahead,
we're
anticipating
some
minor
delays,
but
I
I
think
I'm
going
to
stop
it
there
suzanne
and
maybe
open
it
up
for
questions,
because
there
are
so
many
different
initiatives
that
we
could
spend
a
lot
of
time
going
through
all
of
them.
B
M
I
was
just
wondering
that
some
of
these
green
initiatives
by
putting
a
motion
that
we
approve
them
all
you're,
going
to
preclude
yourself
from
maybe
going
back
and
saying.
Well,
let's
halt
this
or
let's
defer
this
so
I'm
concerned
the
way
the
motion
is
drafted,
that
there
are
some
projects
that,
but
within
the
green
that
you
know
maybe
could
be
deferred
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
and
I
thought
maybe
that
was
what
our
purpose
of
our
meeting
was
today,
so
just
offer
some
clarity
with
regards
to
the
intense
emotion.
A
Thanks
suzanne,
so
I
think
simon
in
response
to
that
this
is
this
is
a
strategic
planning
discussion.
So
what
that
means?
Is
that
we're
just
talking
about
we're
talking
about
the
work
plan
that
staff
have
given
our
strategic
priorities?
It
does
not.
It
doesn't
prevent
us
from
having
a
look
at
individual
projects
and
priorities
as
they
come
to
council
individually,
because
that
that
effectively
is
what's
going
to
happen.
A
So
so,
if
you
have,
if
you
have
concerns
right
when
something
comes
to
counsel,
then
by
all
means
we
can,
we
can
defer
it
or
you
can
vote
against
it
all
those
other
pieces.
But
I
think
that
the
concern
that
that
I
want
to
avoid
is
that
we
we
delve
into
the
minutiae
of
all
these
initiatives
now,
where
we're
really
trying
to
kind
of
just
just
get
a
sense
of
what
the
overall
work
plan
for
the
strategic
employer
should
be.
M
B
L
Yeah,
I
I
do
really
understand
what's
happening,
but
I
it's
gonna
sound
like
I
don't,
okay,
so
the
in
the
red
section
there
are
parts
of
the
transportation
traffic
calming
work
around
schools
that
are
being
delayed
because
the
schools
don't
have
the
capacity
to
engage
in
that
work
right
now.
So
I
understand
that.
But
then
there
are
also
some
of
those
bits
that
are
in
the
green
section
and
given
that
their
the
roadway
or
the
road
works
and
the
improvement
of
our
roads
is
going
ahead.
Pretty
well
as
planned.
O
P
L
I
in
that,
and
I
get
that
it
makes
it
makes
perfect
sense.
It's
just
I'm
wondering
like,
in
particular
with
the
new
development
of
a
new
school,
the
new
high
school
in
the
the
in
the
kings
court
area.
The
are
we
missing
out
like
will
we
be
able
to
do
the
analysis
of
the
traffic
in
that
area
when,
as
that
school
opens
without
having
participation
from
the
schools?
Is
that
is
that
included
in
this
green
initiative?
L
P
P
H
O
Thanks
robert,
so
the
the
motions
are
obviously
not
included
in
the
strategic
plan
because
they
they
started
well
before
the
strategic
plan
and
will
continue
well.
After
so,
we
will
be
reporting
back
on
the
status
of
the
motions
in
november
to
council.
The
last
time
we
reported
to
council
on
the
status
was
in
may
so
that
will
be
coming
in
november.
I
Well,
as
you've
heard
it's
difficult
to
tell
with
whether
one's
question
is
aptly
directed,
I
have
a
question
about
the
climate
management
strategy,
which
is
laid
off
till
late,
and
I
understand
things
have
to
be
laid
off
and
frankly,
I'm
gratified
about
how
much
staff
still
think
they
can
accomplish
so
kudos
for
that.
As
far
as
the
the
climate
match
strategy
made
off
to
late
2021
unless
the
pandemic
abates
that's
my
words,
so
I'm
wondering
given
that
you
know
it
is
a
climate
emergency
and
there's
an
election
in
2022.
I
K
B
K
O
I
just
jump
in
there.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
for
council,
so
the
information
that
you
have
and
what
we're
expecting
in
terms
of
being
able
to
complete
this
work
is
based
on
what
we
know
today.
So,
for
example,
if
if
there
was
a
massive
disruption-
and
I'm
really
hoping
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case,
but
if
there
was
a
massive
disruption
over
the
the
winter
and
and
possibly
into
the
spring,
we
could
see
some
impact
on
on
these
priorities.
O
O
O
As
you
know,
the
integrated
care
hub
is
continuing
over
the
fall
winter
spring
and
at
least
until
july,
at
which
point
we
will
see
what
kind
of
funding
and
what
we
can
continue
to
do.
But
those
are
all
initiatives
that
are
currently
underway
and
will
continue
to
be
underway
and
as
far
as
the
housing
units
themselves,
the
ones
that
need
to
be
built.
We
know
those
are
going
to
take
a
little
bit
more
time
so,
for
example,
1316
princess
street
that
council
recently
approved.
B
I'd
like
to
pass
it
over
to
brian
to
bring
forward
a
motion,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
the
motion
is
to
get
counsel,
to
reconfirm
these
green
priorities
and
direct
staff
to
proceed
with
this
work.
I
want
to
point
out
it's
important
that
the
council
is
endorsing
these
green
priorities
as
part
of
the
staff
plan,
so
I'll
pass
it
over
to
brian
to
facilitate
this
democratic
process.
For
you.
C
A
A
So
I
think
it
would
be
dangerous
for
us
to
start
to
undo
things
that
we've
already
approved.
That
can
still
happen.
It's
not
to
say
that
we
may
not
have
to
make
some
tougher
choices
when
it
comes
to
yellow
or
making
room
for
blue
initiatives,
but
but
but
I
don't
think
that
at
this
point
it
it
hurts
us
to
reconfirm
again
the
plan
that
we've
already
established.
A
B
Okay,
so
thank
you,
so
james
is
going
to
ask
you
to
move
us
to
the
next
slide,
and
so
we're
going
to
now
move
to
red
initiatives
and
again
you
have
your
exhibit
and
we
actually
have
some
slides
that
will
move
along
as
lanny
does
a
presentation
and
again
a
reminder
that
these
are
initiatives
that
are
outside
of
the
control
of
the
city
and
therefore
there's
a
recommendation
that
they
put
on
pause
until
conditions
change.
So
I
will
pass
it
over
to
you
lanny
and
ask
james
to
move
to
the
next
slide
for
you.
O
Suzanne,
so
the
the
first
ones
are
actually
initiatives
and
priorities
are
within
sheila's
area.
So
I
probably
will
ask
her
to
start,
but,
as
was
earlier
explained,
we
do
rely
on
partners
for
most
of
these
initiatives
and
in
in
those
cases
our
partners
are
quite
preoccupied
with
other
operational
or
copin
19
related
matters
and
are
not
necessarily
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
continue
this
work.
At
this
point-
and
we
are
not
quite
certain
when
the
those
conditions
will
change.
O
So
we
will
need
to
continue
to
monitor
how
things
are
progressing
and
when
our
partners
might
be
ready
to
re-engage
we're,
not
saying
those
priorities
disappear
and
we're
taking
them
off
the
list.
We're
just
saying
that
we
need
to
put
them
on
hold
and
we
need
to
monitor
and
one.
When
our
partners
are
ready
to
re-engage
then
we
would
be.
We
would
be
ready
to
to
re-initiate
those
conversations
so
sheila
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
to
get.
P
P
Okay,
thank
you
lenny.
So
basically,
the
the
initiatives
all
are
sort
of
a
subset
of
of
initiative
3.4.1,
which
is
to
develop
an
active
route
to
school
program
in
some
of
the
areas,
and
then
the
the
the
subsets
d,
e
and
f
are
just
the
steps
that
would
be
taken
to
actually
complete
an
implementation
of
this.
So,
as
I
explained
before,
this
really
needs
this
program
really
needs
support
and
input
and
participation
from
from
parent
councils
and
and
the
board
staff
themselves,
so
we'll
just
hold
on
it.
O
O
We
know
right
now
that
obviously
our
post-secondary
institutions
are
quite
preoccupied
with
with
adapting
to
coven
19,
and
this
is
still
part
of
their
vision,
but
not
something
that
they're
they're
ready
to
to
pursue
just
yet
so
we
are
proposing
that
it
be
put
on
hold.
The
second
one
is
around
the
deep
water
dock
for
cruise
ships.
So
I
I
think
it
was
lisa
earlier
that
mentioned
that
you
don't
think
anybody's.
You
know
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
traveling
by
cruise
ship
anytime.
O
We
would
like
to
see,
obviously
not
many
as
many
people
staying
in
hotels
in
the
last
six
months
and
the
last
one
is
around
the
fluoride
in
our
drinking
water.
So
council
you'll,
remember
that
we
had
started
to
do
quite
a
lot
of
work
on
this,
an
engagement
with
the
public
to
bring
back
information
on
the
feasibility.
O
We
had
also
been
working
with
utilities,
kingston
and
public
health.
Obviously,
public
health
is
a
huge
partner
in
this
particular
initiative
and
with
coven
19
of
being
a
priority
right
now
for
public
health.
This
is
something
that
that
we
have
connected
with
public
health
and
are
proposing
to
put
a
hold
on
this
initiative
until
there's
more
capacity
for
public
health
to
get
re-engaged,
and
I
think
that's
it
pretty
much
for
the
the
red
initiatives.
L
Thanks
suzanne
yeah
just
to
sheila
regarding
the
the
school
situation,
the
safe,
the
safe
traveling
to
schools.
Just
I
am
curious
if
you
could
maybe
just
comment
on
if
you
could
provide
any
information
at
this
point
about
how
that's
go
not
that
program.
But
just
is
this
a
concern
right
now
like,
given
that
many
parents
are
driving
to
school
there
there's
limited
bus
service.
P
Thank
you
for
the
question
mary
rita.
It's
it's
interesting.
We're
we're
seeing
travel
patterns
certainly
have
changed
and
shifted
with
covid.
We
we
haven't
quite
got
enough
time
under
our
belt,
with
with
the
school
season
to
see
what
the
what
a
longer
term
impact
can
be.
We
certainly
haven't
had
an
increase
in
school
safety
concerns.
P
We
fully
anticipated
that
that
there
may
be
more
parents
driving
their
children
to
school
than
than
they
had
in
the
past,
because
more
parents
also
working
at
home
and
may
have
the
ability
to
to
do
so.
So
we
haven't
had
any
specific
concerns
brought
to
our
attention,
but
I,
I
still
think
there's
an
awful
lot
of
of
change
happening
in
the
way
people
are
are
taking
their
kids
to
school
and
even
even
with
kids
attendance.
So
I
think
it's
just
too
soon
to
say
thanks.
B
D
I've
actually
had
many
concerns,
and
actually,
if
you
look
in
the
comments
that
were
submitted
when
they
did
the
engagement,
a
lot
of
them,
especially
over
my
area,
focused
on
a
particular
intersection
and
basically
how,
with
the
development
we're
here
across
the
highway
to
walk
to
school.
So
I
actually
know
that
there
are
parents,
councils
and
school
communities
that
are
being
willing
whenever
staff
is
to
to
have
those
meetings.
I
literally
just
got
a
message
from
a
committee
saying
that
they
were
kind
of
wondering
where
this
is
so
more.
D
D
G
G
I
forgot,
I
beat
it
the
whole
idea
of
the
green
bins.
I
think
if
we
can
include
in
that
circle
of
communication
student
councils,
the
only
reason
in
the
90s
that
most
schools
ended
up
with
blue
boxes
in
classrooms
wasn't
an
initiative
of
the
school
board.
It
was
an
initiative
of
the
students
and
so
engaging
student
councils
and
that
to
build
on
on
ryan's
comments,
that
could
also
be
a
group
that
we
want
to
include
when
we
talk
about
walkability
roads
and
transportation,
around
schools.
E
E
P
E
P
And
the
the
report
that
you're
referring
to
lisa
is
the
traffic
calming
review
the
rates
yes,
and
so
we
are
still
doing
that,
as
a
matter
of
fact
have
we've
done
the
initial
review
of
the
traffic
calming
policy,
and
we
have
a
report
coming
to
eit
in
october
on
that
and
then
the
consultant
that
was
authorized,
that
work
is,
is
sort
of
a
broader
and
more
deeper
look
at
it
and,
and
that
is
proceeding
as
well.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah
hi.
Thank
you
very
much,
suzanne,
just
clarity
on
the
the
recommendation
or
the
motion
it
says
until
and
I
just
wonder
what
until
means
will
will
council
be
given
a
heads
up
when
certain
of
these
items
will
be
kind
of
moved
into
a
different
category?
I
guess
I
am
referring
to
the
fluoride
one,
which
is
an
oxymoron.
That's
underneath
fostering
healthy
citizens,
which
it
doesn't.
So
I
just
wondering
how
much
heads
up
will
we
be
given
and
hopefully
have
a
separate
meeting
for
that
as
well.
O
Absolutely
thank
you
gary
for
for
this
question.
It
will
give
me
an
opportunity
as
well,
to
clarify
the
scope
of
the
work
that
is
within
this
initiative.
So
this
initiative
doesn't
say
that
council
endorse,
endorses
fluoride
to
be
added
to
the
to
the
drinking
water.
What
it
says.
It's
basically
for
city
staff
to
work
with
partners
to
come
back
with
information
on
the
feasibility
to
to
actually
implement
this.
So,
yes,
we
would
notify
council
when
there's
a
change
in
any
of
those.
O
C
Yeah,
that's
just
a
clarity
too.
Regarding
the
factors
blocking
successful
implementation.
Will
we
be
getting?
Will
staff
be
keeping
an
eye
on
the
particularly
the
act
of
transportation
and
the
trans
transportation
issues
that
the
council
had
asked
about?
So
will
they
will
these
these
red
initiatives?
C
O
So
if
there's
any
change
in
terms
of
like
I
indicated
if
our
partners
that
we
need
to
work
on
to
advance
these
initiatives
have
capacity
to
re-engage,
we
would
actually
identify
that
when
we
report
to
council
on
a
quarterly
basis,
so
you
wouldn't
have
to
wait.
You
know
a
year
to
find
out
what's
going
on.
This
is
something
we
will
be
doing
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
we
would
identify
it
at
that
time.
A
B
B
So
we're
at
time
do
I
have
permission
to
move
along.
Yes,
okay,
fabulous!
So
thank
you
and
I
hope
everybody
got
a
nice
break
and
a
chance
to
stretch
and
get
a
drink
and
something
to
eat.
I
wanted
to
invite
desiree
kennedy
to
do
a
short
financial
presentation
and
that
will
be
followed
by
any
questions
that
anybody
has
and
then
we're
actually
going
to
go
around
and
test
the
pulse
of
this
group
around
tax
rates,
desiree
lovely,
to
see
you
welcome
hi
suzanne.
Q
Okay,
excellent
thanks
good
evening
everybody,
so
I
thought
just
for
the
next
few
minutes.
I
would
take
counsel
back
to
some
of
the
fiscal
parameters
that
council
approved
back
at
budget
time
and
and
pre-covet
just
as
a
reminder
of
where
we
were
and
then
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
constraints
given
covid
19.
Q
Q
So
I
just
want
to
go
through
four
or
five
things
here
with
respect
to
some
of
the
the
starting
points
where
we're
starting
out
from
so
I
do
want
to
just
take
counsel
back
to
last
week
and
where
we
are
with
our
2020
fiscal
year
and
our
projections.
So
there
was
a
report
on
the
council
agenda
last
week
that
council
had
with
respect
to
the
2020
projections
to
year
end
that
reported
a
operating
deficit
of
9.3
million
dollars
and
council
will
recall.
Q
We
did
confirm
in
the
report
that
we
do
have
a
number
of
funding
strategies
and
that
we
will
not
have
a
deficit
at
the
end
of
the
year,
but
we
had
just
recently
learned
about
the
safe
restart
monies
that
we've
received
from
the
the
feds
in
the
province,
which
equated
to
about
7.2
million
dollars
for
general
covid
pressures
in
our
operating
budget,
as
well
as
another
5.3
million,
specifically
related
to
our
pressures
in
transit
and
in
particular,
our
loss
of
revenues
in
transit.
So
we
have
that
12
and
a
half
million
dollars.
Q
Q
Q
So
this
slide
shows
what
was
reported
to
council
at
budget
time
with
respect
to
our
our
three
years
of
projections,
and
you
can
see
that
we
had
an
actual
projected
tax
rate
increase
at
that
time
of
2.9
for
2021
and
3.4
and
3.1
percent
for
2022
and
2023
respectively.
So
we
are
starting
into
our
2021
budgeting
process.
Now,
with
a
gap,
as
you
can
see,
we've
got
a
dollar
gap
relates
to
for
2021
of
about
1.1
million
dollars
and
that
grows
to
20
in
2022
to
3.6
and
then
to
5.7.
Q
Now
those
numbers
are
cumulative.
So
if
we
find
in
2021
1.1
million
dollars
of
savings
that
are
sustainable
savings,
that
will
also
affect
2022,
then
that
will
come
off
the
3.6,
so
they
are
actually
cumulative
going
across
those
three
years.
The
other
thing
that
I
just
included
in
this
slide
is
the
projected
assessment
growth.
So
council
will
recall
when
the
tax
rate
targets
were
set
for
these
three
years.
Q
What
we're
seeing
from
a
covid
related
standpoint
at
this
point,
while
there
was
some
deferral
of
some
development
early
on
throughout
throughout
the
last
few
months
of
of
related
to
covid,
overall
we're
not
seeing
a
huge
difference
in
our
assessment
growth.
Now
I
think
part
of
that
is
because
there's
usually
about
a
two
year
lag
between
the
time,
the
development's
happening
and
the
time
it's
actually
hitting
our
budget
as
assessment
growth.
Q
So
at
least
two
years
so
for
2021
we're
still
pretty
comfortable
with
this
number
in
terms
of
being
able
to
meet
it
2022
a
little
more
risk
as
we
sort
of
work
out
work
down
through
the
calendar
and
certainly
by
2023,
even
a
little
more
risk
there
in
terms
of
what
those
numbers
are.
So
we
will,
as
part
of
the
2021
budget
process,
be
taking
a
closer
look
at
our
assessment
growth
working
with
mpac
to
find
out
what's
happening.
Q
What
their
schedule
is
like,
because
they've
also
been
behind,
obviously
through
coven,
in
terms
of
trying
to
get
some
of
those
assessments
on
the
role.
So
it's
certainly
something
that
that
it
is
a
risk
for
us.
In
terms
of
of
the
budgets
going
forward
james,
the
next
slide
so
in
terms
of
looking
at
at
2021
and
some
of
the
operating
budget
considerations
that
we
need
to
think
about,
particularly
with
respect
to
some
of
the
effects
that
that
we've
seen
over
the
last
few
months
from
the
pandemic.
Q
Q
We
don't
see
that
going
away,
it
will
be
less,
hopefully
than
22
million,
but
we
are
still
going
to
have
challenges
with
reduced
user
fees,
particularly
in
transit,
and
I
think
the
last
couple
of
of
covered
update
reports
that
we've
provided
to
council
talks
about
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
are
going
to
have
in
2021
in
terms
of
our
transit
ridership.
It's
trending
right
now
about
25
to
30
percent
in
terms
of
ridership.
We
also
know
that
we
don't
have.
Q
The
agreements
have
been
terminated
with
st
lawrence
college
and
queen's
university,
so
we've
got
some
some
challenges
there.
So
we
certainly
are
anticipating
at
this
point,
that
we
are
going
to
have
an
operating
deficit
in
transit.
Some
of
the
transit
funding
that
we've
received
through
the
safe
restart
agreement
will
be
able
to
be
carried
forward
over
into
2021,
but
only
up
until
the
end
of
march
2021.
So
any
challenges
we
have
after
that,
that
funding
will
not
be
eligible
for
for
those
those
revenue
losses.
Q
To
a
lesser
extent,
we
expect
we'll
still
see
some
reduced
user
fees
in
recreation
and
culture,
potentially
the
airport,
certainly
investment
income,
we're
projecting
about
a
six
hundred
thousand
dollar
loss
in
investment
income
in
2020
and
with
the
rate
so
low.
Certainly,
will
the
projections
that
we
did
have
about
a
million
and
a
half
in
our
operating
budget
for
2021
are
definitely
going
to
have
to
be
reduced.
Q
I've
talked
about
assessment
growth
and
the
other.
Obviously,
the
increased
costs
that
we
are
experiencing
with
respect
to
covid
the
personal
protective
equipment,
cleaning
costs,
physical
distancing
costs
that
we
need
to
put
in
in
terms
of
recovery
around
marketing
and
promotion
are
all
going
to
be
costs
that
we
have
not
currently
do
not
have
in
the
2021
projections
and
then
on
the
capital
budget.
Consideration
side
for
2021.
Q
We
do
have
some
capital
budget
deferrals
that
have
already
been
deferred.
There
was
about
15
million
that
we
deferred
in
one
of
our
earlier
reports
to
council.
We
do
have
to
seriously
consider
not
only
our
financial
capacity
but
our
human
resource
capacity
in
terms
of
getting
some
of
this
capital
work
done.
Q
We
also
have
to
make
sure
we
don't
lose
sight
of
some
of
the
the
successful
grant
funding
that
we've
received
over
the
last
few
months.
So
certainly
the
isip
funds
and
the
I
think
there
was
seven
or
eight
projects
that
have
been
approved
under
that
projects
of
about
45
million
dollars
that
we
need
to
complete
over
the
next
seven
or
eight
years,
as
well
as
the
disaster
mitigation
and
adaptation
fund
monies,
which
was
another
20
million
that
we
received
based
on
50
million
dollars
of
projects
that
have
been
approved.
Q
We've
also
got
an
isip
covered
funding
stream.
That's
going
to
provide
up
to
80
percent
of
a
maximum
of
10
million
dollars
in
projects.
We
are
waiting
for
the
application
process
to
be
released
for
that
funding,
and
certainly
that's
a
program
that
we
will
look
at
at
applying
for
so
in
terms
of
our
capital.
We
certainly
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
the
capacity,
both
financial
and
human
capacity
to
be
able
to
to
do
those
projects
where
we
do
have
grant
funds
available
to
to
help
cover
that
off.
Q
And
so.
Finally,
the
only
other
thing
that
that
I
want
to
just
bring
to
council's
attention
is
certainly,
if
we
have
a
another
wave
and
certainly
keeping
some
contingency
plans
around
for
the
next
couple
of
years,
within
the
operating
and
particularly
within
the
capital,
in
terms
of
having
some
some
flexibility
built
in
there
to
for
the
unknown
that
that
we
don't
know
what's
what's
coming
yet
and
suzanne.
B
D
D
Q
So
we
really
didn't
lose
a
lot.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
slowdown.
I
think
there
was
a
couple
of
months
where
things
slowed
down,
but
then
picked
right
back
up
again.
So
I
would
say
it's
not
a
significant
risk
that
we're
looking
at
there's
always
a
bit
of
risk
when
you're
trying
to
project
assessment
growth
out
in
2023
and
how
fast
development
is
going
to
happen.
Q
But
no,
I
would
you
know
I
would
say,
for
2021
and
2022
we're
fairly
comfortable.
There
has
been
a
shift
in
a
few
properties,
particularly
with
fehe,
which
would
be
in
our
projections.
It
was
projected
to
actually
come
on
in
2020
and
we're
expecting
it
sorry.
It
was
supposed
to
come
on
in
2020
as
a
sup
and
into
our
2021
growth.
Q
D
D
Q
M
M
Q
Q
The
second
report
we
have
is
for
about
another
57,
58
million
dollars
of
new
a
new
application
into
oilc,
which
will
be
a
part
of
that
190
as
well.
So
between
those
two
reports,
the
only
other
thing
that
we'll
have
left
in
that
190
is
about
78
million
dollars
of
debt
related
to
the
cataract
way
bay
sewer
plant,
because
we
have
not
debentured
that
one
and
we're
not
going
to
do
adventure.
This
go
around
because
it's
it's
not
substantially
complete
yet
so
those
will
make
up
the
190
million.
Q
We
always
had
a
number
of
projects
that
council
had
approved,
but
hadn't
been
started
yet,
and
so
they
were
just
sitting
on
the
books
waiting
in
like
that
190
million,
but
we
didn't
even
have
applications
in,
because
we've
been
able
to
work
our
way
towards
just
using
debt
for
the
larger
projects
and
not
the
asset
management
types
of
projects.
We
have
a
lot
less
projects
on
the
books
and
we're
actually
have
turned
the
corner.
Now,
where
we
will,
with
these
two
reports
coming
to
council,
we
won't
have
any
other
projects.
Q
Yep
we
can't
so
it
is
shown
as
funding
in
the
capital
budgets
when
council
approves
that
as
funding,
and
then
we
do
show
it
when
we
do
the
debt
reporting
each
year.
So
it
shows
the
actual
debt
that's
been
issued.
That
shows
on
our
financial
statements
as
well
as
the
the
amount
that
council
has
approved,
but
we
have
not
yet
actually
committed.
H
Where
does
utilities
kingston
fit
into
all
of
it?
I
know
that
when
first
elected
we
approved,
I
think
it
was
a
four
or
five
year
budget
for
them,
and
I
know
you
don't
oversee
that
directly,
but
we
have
no
line
of
sight
on
their
revenues
up
down
in
between
and
just
wondering
if
you
can
provide
a
bit
of
insight
on
that.
Q
Q
Q
They
are
trying
to
manage
that
by
some
of
their
capital
work
so
similar
to
what
we
did
where
we
deferred
about
15
million
dollars,
they're
doing
something
similar
too,
so
they
have
gone
through
and
done
a
detailed
analysis
of
their
capital
and
will
be
because
they
any
of
their
surplus
each
year
their
operating
surplus
goes
into
their
capital
reserve
funds,
so
they'll
be
looking
at
using
some
of
those
capital
reserve
funds
to
fund
any
deficit
that
they
might
have.
I
don't
have
any
numbers
at
this
point
from
them.
Q
H
Q
So
for
the
water
sewer
and
gas,
which
are
city
operations,
if
they
had
a
deficit
in
those
that
they
couldn't
fund
from
their
capital
reserve
funds
that
would
have
to
be
funded
the
following
year
under
the
municipal
act,
because
they
are
actually
municipal
services.
So
it
would
have
to
go
into
their
rates
similar
to
the
way
we
would
have
to
include
it
in
our.
In
our
tax
rate,.
B
A
A
I
think,
given
the
financial
stress
that
our
community
is
under
right
now,
the
the
tough
times
that
we
are
in
and
we
will
be
in
for
the
next
couple
of
years.
I
think
that
our
our
plan
to
slowly
gradually
reduce
tax
increase,
I
think,
is
exactly
the
right
signal
for
community
if
everybody
else
has
to
live
within
their
means
right
now.
I
think
we
need
to
lead
by
example.
A
A
I
just
think
that
that
would
be
a
real
blow,
but
I
also
understand
that
the
needs
and
the
pressures
that
we
have
you
know
whether
it
comes
to
you
know
help
for
our
most
vulnerable
population
or
making
those
right
investments.
We
need
to
build
back
better
and
stronger,
and
so
so
I
would
be
hesitant
to
to
reduce
the
the
tax
rate
parameters
either.
So
I
would
certainly
vote
to
see
the
course.
E
Next,
okay,
thanks!
So
now
I
don't
know
what
to
say
after
hearing
the
mirror
I
was,
I
was
gonna
say
that
with
coved
that
you
know-
and
I
know
there's
so
many
financial
constraints-
I
was
saying
I
was
thinking
about
you
know
if
we
did
do
2.5
2.5
2.5,
how
many
more
years
do
we
have
left
2.5
2.5
that
you
know,
maybe
that's
what
we
have
to
do,
but
you
know,
because
we
just
saw
the
numbers
that
desiree
gave
us
and
that
shortfall
gap.
E
I
wouldn't
want
to
go
over
2.5
though,
but
I
know
that
we
have
a
2.4
where
we
have
a
a
2.4
and
then
a
2.4
and
a
2.3.
Let
me
just
flip
that
back
up
what
I
copied
out,
so
I
don't
know
like
maybe
that
last
year
2023
could
be
a
2.4.
Maybe
we
can
do
a
2.5
2.5
2.4.
I
don't
want
to
go
over
a
2.5,
so
that's
all
I
can
say
for
right.
D
Next,
thank
you.
Yeah
brian
brought
up
a
lot
of
the
sentiment
in
this.
I
think
it
sends
a
bad
signal
to
the
community
when
we've
seen
and
heard
so
many
stories
of
people
having
to
tighten
their
belts
and
and
the
sacrifices
that
so
many
people
have
had
to
make
just
to
make
it
through
this.
The
job
losses.
The
economics
and
leaders
are
covering
from
this,
so
the
feedback
that
we
would
get
from
the
public.
D
D
But
at
this
point
I
think
it's
more
important
than
ever
and
I'll
steal
this
from
the
mirror,
because
he
says
that
we
learn
to
live
within
our
means,
and
if
that
means
getting
rid
of
some
of
the
nice
to
haves
rather
than
going
back
and
asking
people
for
more
money,
then
I
think
that
that's
the
hardest
decision
we
need
to
make.
I
would
not
support
engineering
at
this
point
and
I
would
not
really
support
going
into
greater
debt.
I
think
we
really
left
the
manager.
D
You
know
we
need
to
get
a
little
bit
more
blood
from
this
phone
if
it's
possible
at
all.
We're
also
not
aware
of
all
the
potential
funding
opportunities
that
may
come
from
the
province,
so
I
mean
there
could
be
more
help
on
the
way
we
can't
live
and
expect
that
to
happen,
but
it
could
happen
so
I
think
staff
have
done
a
great
job
managing
up
until
this
point,
and
I
think
that
we
can
stay
the
course
and
still
achieve
a
lot
of
priorities.
D
F
F
M
Thank
you.
I
was
waiting
for
the
screen
to
pop
up
to
unmute.
Well,
I
guess
you
know
I
could
be
the
the
crunch
and
always
asking
about
fiscal
sanity
for
the
city
of
kingston,
and
I
think
we
really
do
just
paraphrase
one
more
time
live
within
our
means.
The
residents
of
kingston
are
going
to
expect
us
to.
M
You
know,
acknowledge
the
fact
that
everyone
is
struggling
a
bit
and
I'm
not
in
favor
of
increasing
tax
rates.
I
would
actually
be
looking
to
shift
more
of
that
committed
debt
back
on
to
the
actual
debt.
That's
people
realize
how
much
that
we
have
rather
than
sort
of
saying
well,
we
haven't
really
spent
it
yet.
I
really
think
it's
a
month's
key.
I
really
would
like
to
see
us.
You
know.
M
Perhaps
you
know
go
out
back
to
some
old
budgeting
styles,
where
you
go
line
by
line,
maybe
just
pick
one
or
two
departments
and
go
through,
because
I'm
certain
there's
things
that
we
can
find
efficiencies
on.
There's
new
ideas,
like
you
know,
looking
at
enterprise
car,
they
have
a
division
where
you
can
they
do
the
fleet
management
for
you,
rather
than
buying
one
car
at
a
time
changing
a
bit
of
our
purchasing
by
loss.
Perhaps
there's
things
that
we
can
do.
M
N
N
It
strikes
me
as
a
bromide
slogan
to
say
that
we
have
to
live
within
our
means.
Governments
are
not
companies
or
households.
We
are
a
little
bit
different
and
austerity
has
not
worked.
It
never
works.
There's
a
whole
history
of
that
over
200
years
of
that,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
community.
If
we're
cutting
back
on
spending
as
well
like
we
need
to
make
our
commitments
in
a
sense
that
money
that
we
spend
is
taken
out
of
people's
pockets,
who
can
afford
it
property
owners,
some
of
the
biggest
ones.
N
Here
too,
are
the
ones
who
are
standing
to
benefit
the
most
from
a
reduced
tax
rate
when
you
take
it
out
of
theirs
and
you
spend
it
you're,
actually
helping
the
local
community
you're,
actually
creating
talks.
We've
lost
employer
employees
here
in
kingston
in
the
city,
that's
money
that
can
that
isn't
spent
within
the
local
community.
That's
why
austerity
doesn't
work.
I
mean
we
have
to
create
depression
for
that
economists
on
both
sides
of
the
left
and
the
right
spectrum
have
pointed
that
out.
It's
the
wrong
thing
to
do
it.
J
C
C
C
So
I'm
not
in
favor
of
a
major
tax
increase,
but
I
am
open
to
keeping
the
course
at
2.5
and
which
is
what
counselor
osanick
mentioned
earlier
too.
So
either
we
we
keep
with
the
plan,
because
the
2.4
is
actually
a
reduction
and
I
don't
necessarily
think
this
is
the
time
to
reduce
taxes
either.
But
perhaps
staying
of
course
would
be
the
kind
of
the
middle
man.
B
G
There
we
go.
I
agree
that
we
should
stay
the
course
for
this
year
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
and
I'll
probably
hear
an
amen
from
from
simon
about
this.
We
are
going
to
be
paying
a
tax
increase,
the
money
that
the
federal
government
and
the
provincial
government
are
making
available
due
to
the
covid
crisis
and
our
deficit,
we're
going
to
end
up
paying
for
that
in
future,
but
the
idea
that
property
owners
are
have
deep
pockets.
G
Bridget
is
absolutely
right.
That
isn't
the
case.
The
most
regressive
form
of
taxation
is
property
tax.
The
most
positive
form
of
taxation
is
income
tax.
We
don't
have
the
power
of
income
tax,
the
federal
and
the
provincial
government
do
and
I'll
deny
saying
this
in
the
future,
but
both
of
those
governments
have
spent
a
lot
of
money
due
to
this
crisis,
and
some
of
that
money
has
flowed
to
us.
G
So
I
think
maintaining
the
plan
is
good.
I
do
have
a
just
a
quick
comment
and
maybe
later
the
treasurer
can
comment
on
this,
I
was
thinking
if
we
were
receiving
the
support
from
federal
and
provincial
that
for
at
least
a
year
we
might
go
half
a
percent
for
the
capital
reserve
or,
if
very
hit
very
badly.
We
could
go
the
one
percent
and
I
totally
support
it
in
normal
times,
but
it
is
an
opportunity
if
we
need
it.
I
think
I
look
forward
to
the
treasurer
commenting
on
that.
Thank
you.
G
H
That's
why
I
think
we
have
to
keep
our
increases
low
and
that's
the
second
thing
I
want
to
say
we're
still
talking
about
an
increase
here.
2.3
2.1,
even
0.01
would
be
an
increase,
so
I
think
that
keeping
it
low
is
socially
just,
and
I
also
think
that
it's
relatively
in
line
with
inflation,
given
the
economic
volatility
that
we've
seen
that
we're
actually
trending
slightly
down.
H
So
I
think
that,
as
far
as
us,
as
far
as
us,
justifying
it
to
the
community
to
say
that
we're
roughly
in
line
with
inflation,
I
think
that's
a
good
argument,
because
we're
the
only
level
of
government
that
doesn't
have
our
tax
base
keep
up
with
inflation
like
the
feds
in
the
province.
Do
so
I'm
very
happy
with
the
projections
that
we
have.
I
think
it's
2.4,
2.4
and
2.3,
so
I'll
continue
to
support
that.
I
Q
Q
We
wouldn't
even
consider
that
at
one
percent,
because
we
know
that
our
budgets
were
too
high
in
2020.
So
so
we
look
at
fuel
utilities,
some
of
those
larger
expansions
differently,
but
for
just
a
general
inflation.
If
we
are
just
projecting
something
that
we
don't
have
contracts
for,
that
kind
of
thing
we're
looking
around
the
one
percent
mark
right
now
for
2021.
I
When
you
look
at
the
operating
by
itself,
which
is
1.5
and
inflation,
was
1.8,
so
you're
actually
putting
tremendous
strain
on
your
on
your
ability
to
provide
your
services
and
the
creativity
of
staff
to
bring
them.
So
I
guess
my
question
that
comes
up
in
these
situations
is.
Another
question
is:
if
the
city
maintains
its
tax
tax
rate
plan,
will
the
city
be
able
to
maintain
frontline
services.
O
Thanks
rob,
which
is
why
I
turned
on
my
camera
I
assumed
that
was
probably
directed
to
me.
I
would
say
that,
based
on
what
we
know
so,
please
keep
in
mind.
That's
currently
what
we
know
and
if
things
were
to
change
substantially
with
covid
like
we
had
to
go
into
pretty
much
another
shutdown
that
would
have
a
completely
different
impact,
but
based
on
what
we
know,
the
area
where
we
have
some
concern
is
with
transit.
O
If
we
look
at
the
services
that
we
have
to
maintain
and
the
revenues
that
we're
projecting
right
now
because
of
the
anticipated
loss
of
revenue,
we
do
have
some
some
concerns
in
being
able
to
make
that
work.
We
haven't
worked
through
all
the
details
yet
so
we
still
need
to
do
that,
but
I
do
want
to
flag
that
one
in
particular.
I
You
were
yeah.
I
was
about
to
address
that,
so
I
think
for
this
upcoming
year.
We
we
don't
need
to
go
off
our
general
plan,
but
I
think
that's
probably
given
the
uncertainties
is
the
limit,
because
it's
not
going
to
go
down
well,
if
we
can't
deliver
the
basic
frontline
services
and
we
have
client
economic
crisis
which
is
real,
we
have
a
housing
crisis
which
is
real
and
we're
going
to
have
to,
and
now
we
have
a
pandemic.
I
R
L
L
B
Brian
very
generously
agreed
to
let
me
check
in
with
him
to
see
if
he
had
a
proposed
solution
around
what
to
do
with
kind
of
our
shared
vision
in
terms
of
a
possible
motion
today
or
more
work
done
by
city
staff
and
something
that
comes
forward
at
the
next
meeting.
So
I'm
gonna
pass
it
over
to
you,
brian.
A
Thanks
suzanne,
so
I've
just
just
taken
note
of
what
everybody
said.
So
what
I'm?
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
the
majority
of
the
majority
of
us
are
comfortable
to
stay
the
course,
but
to
re-emphasize
the
asterisk
that
has
always
been
attached
to
these
tax
rate
increases,
and
I
think
mary
reed
and
rob
both
highlighted
that
that's
subject
to
no
major
shock
changes
in
terms
of
provincial
funding
or
other
things
that
might
hit
so
so
I
think
with
that
asterisk
that's
attached
to
it.
B
And
the
reason
that
we
wanted
to
do
this
is
this
is
an
important
gauge
for
the
staff
as
they
go
forward
and
get
ready
for
the
november
meeting,
and
we
want
to
do
this
before
we
spoke
about
the
yellow
and
the
blue
initiatives
just
to
get
a
sense
of
where
people
sat
with
this.
So
I
did
want
to
make
sure
we.
I
did
want
to
make
sure
desiree
that
you
responded
to
jim's
question
about
the
capital
reserve.
If
you
could
do
that
succinctly
and
then
we'll
move
along
to
the
yellow
initiatives.
Q
G
Q
Yes,
absolutely
it's,
it's
always
a
strategy,
that's
on
the
table
and
and
if
we
did
have
some
significant
service
cuts,
we
could
look
at
that.
I
can
tell
you
too,
the
other
thing
that
we'll
see-
and
we
did
see
this
go
around
with
some
of
the
the
services
that
were
put
on
hold-
is
that
we
can
defer
some
of
our
replacement
schedules,
so
the
buses
weren't
on
the
road,
the
fleet
wasn't
on
the
road
as
much.
We
can
defer
some
of
those.
B
Thank
you
very
much
now,
with
further
ado,
I'm
going
to
move
us
to
the
next
slide,
james,
if
that's
possible,
we're
now
going
to
move
into
the
yellow
initiatives
and
just
a
reminder.
These
are
initiatives
that
have
been
delayed
and
are
currently
challenging
to
address,
and
it
might
be
for
a
whole
medley
of
reasons
that
include
covid,
creating
external
challenges,
market
changes,
lost
revenue,
timing,
fiscal
and
capacity
constraints
of
the
city.
B
These
are
initiatives
that
the
city
staff
are
recommending
a
delay
or
deferral,
because
they
will
ultimately
impact
the
tax
rate
or
they
will
require
additional
corporate
capacity.
So,
as
we
have
in
the
past,
we'll
get
a
we'll
receive
a
presentation
from
lanny.
Give
you
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
of
clarity,
and
then
we
will
go
through
a
process
of
moving
motions
and
discussion
around
the
various
yellow
items.
So
can
I
pass
it
over
to
you
lanny
and
james?
You
can
move
to
the
next
slide.
B
O
Suzanne,
so
actually
peter
sheila
and
paige
will
cover
the
the
initiatives
themselves
and
provide
you
with
a
bit
more
context
for
each
of
them.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
there
are
proposed
deferral
time
frames
for
each
of
these
initiatives,
so
we
are
proposing
a
certain
time
frame
if
you
look
in
in
terms
of
the
the
challenges
that
we
have
identified,
so
it's
we're
not
proposing
to
put
them
on
hold
with
no
time
frame.
We
would
return
and
revisit
them
or
get
them
accomplished
with
these
deferrals.
O
If
council
is
not
supportive
of
these
deferrals,
we
would
have
to
come
back
to
council
with
the
implications
either
financial
implications.
That
would
potentially
mean
that
we
would
not
be
able
to
meet
our
financial
targets
or
implications
in
terms
of
deferring
other
projects
or
initiatives
that
we
are
currently
not
deferring,
because
what
we
are
saying
is
these
are
proposed
to
be
deferred
for
two
reasons:
human
resources,
capacity
or
financial
capacity.
At
this
point.
O
K
The
the
the
big
part
of
that
is
to
do
actual
reductions
in
our
fleet
in
our
buildings
in
our
operations,
but
as
a
standard
practice
that
that's
that's
acceptable
around
the
world
and
that
we
presented
the
council
was
to
boost
up
those
reductions
each
year
with
purchasing
carbon
offsets.
What
we're
recommending
here
is
that
we
put
that
on
hold
for
2020
for
for
two
reasons:
one
they
cost
money
and
it's.
We
have
a
serious
financial
impact
that
we've
heard
about
for
the
pandemic,
but
two.
K
We
also
expect
to
have
significant
reductions
in
2020
for
the
city's
operations
and
ghg
production
because
of
the
shutdown
and
our
buildings,
our
our
fleet,
our
transit
fleet,
that
sort
of
thing
so
the
off.
What
the
offsets
that
are
complement
is
actually
happening
and
that
will
have
reduced
ghg
production
in
in
the
city's
operation.
So
that's
that's
why
this
is
this
is
here
for
you
tonight.
K
B
K
Yeah,
what
we,
what
we're,
what
we
do
is
annually
we're
purchasing
them
to
recognize
that
that
year
of
where
we
are
on
track
with
with
meeting
that
goal
for
2022
for
15,
so
the
baseline
year
is
2019,
so
we're
working
out
the
2019
base
year.
Not
so
what
2020
is?
We
will
probably
be
great
from
the
gst,
but
then
we'll
we'll
we'll
judge
2021
on
its
merits.
M
K
Thanks
simon,
so
there
haven't
been
any
purchases,
because
the
baseline
year
is
2019,
so
2020
would
have
been
the
first
year.
So
there
hasn't
been
anything
we.
I
think
we
were
estimating
about
worst
case
for
a
year.
If
there
were
no
reductions
by
the
city
operations,
it
would
be
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
offset
our
our
total
15
emissions.
K
G
R
The
reason
for
this
is
is
really
looking
at
all
of
the
the
policy
work
that
we
have
before
us,
which
are
a
number
of
items
and
also
looking
at
the
interdependencies
between
departments,
because
planning
studies
are
not
they're
not
completed
solely
independently
just
by
the
planning
department.
We
require
detailed
technical
input
from
some
of
our
partner
departments,
who
also
have
a
number
of
other
priorities
that
are
are
being
discussed
tonight
and
items
that
that
they
need
to
be
feeding
into.
R
R
We're
working
to
finish
the
central
kingston
secondary
plan
as
well,
and
that's
in
the
final
stages
of
policy
development
right
now
and
we'll
be
finishing
in
early
2021.
We're
also
fully
ramping
up
on
the
city.
Zoning
bylaw
and
that
will
also
be
completed
in
2021
and
I'll,
be
bringing
a
report
forward
likely
in
november.
That
gives
you
an
update
with
detailed
milestones
of
the
completion
of
those
pieces
and
then
also
starting
the
central
business
district
portion
of
density
by
design
policy
development
in
2021
as
well.
R
So
when
we
looked
at
all
of
these
pieces,
we
realized
from
a
staff
capacity
perspective.
It
just
wasn't
possible
for
us
to
complete
all
of
them,
so
we
looked
at
what
was
the
most
time
sensitive.
What
were
the
areas
of
the
city
that
were
under
the
greatest
growth
pressure,
and
although
north
kingstown
is
an
important
area
of
the
city,
it
is
an
area
that
I'm
expecting
to
see
growth
more
over
the
longer
term.
G
Just
very
quickly
paige,
I
mentioned
at
the
very
beginning
that
there
are
a
couple
of
key
positions
on
the
org
chart
that
one
implanting
one
in
in
property
standards
and
enforcement
that
haven't
been
filled
is.
Is
there
a
plan
to
backfill
those
this
year
within
the
budget
we
aren't
seeking
budget
savings
by
not
backfilling
those
critical
positions.
Are
we.
R
Thanks
for
the
question
jim,
so,
yes,
we
are
moving
forward
with
the
recruitment
of
those
two
director
positions,
they're
just
in
the
process
of
being
publicly
posted
and
we
will
be
completing
those
recruitments,
ideally
over.
The
next
eight
to
twelve
weeks
is
the
estimated
timeline
so
that
we
have
two
new
directors
in
place,
ideally
for
the
end
of
2020
or
early
2021.
Is
the
timeline
that
they're
we're
working
to
complete
those.
I
I
R
R
The
north
end
is,
is
the
piece
that's
still
a
question
of
as
to
how
we're
going
to
be
dealing
that
with
that
from
like
a
design
and
alignment
perspective,
and
that
is
the
importance
of
that
work
and
the
need
for
the
technical
review
from
an
engineering
and
transportation
perspective
and
with
all
of
the
other
work.
That's
before
those
two
departments
are
why
we
really
can't
move
forward
with
the
remainder
of
the
land,
use,
configuration,
work
and
policy
development,
because
the
the
land
use
components
are
so
intertwined
with
how
the
overall
transportation
network
functions.
R
R
We
aren't
seeing
the
growth
pressures
there,
necessarily
that
we're
seeing
in
some
of
the
other
areas
identified
that
we
felt
we
needed
to
get
those
policies
done
first
and
and
need
need
our
partners
in
engineering
and
transportation
to
have
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
work
with
us
to
do
the
detailed
transportation
analysis.
The
modeling
that's
required
to
look
at
those
alternatives
in
the
road
alignment
and
how
that's
going
to
configure
with
the
kmp
trail.
R
So
that
is
the
reason
for
deferring
it
so
that
it
can
have
that
dedicated
technical
review
time,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
move
everything
forward
at
once
and
potentially
not
being
able
to
deliver
an
outcome.
That's
had
the
benefit
of
the
best
technical
review.
That's
that's
available
to
the
community
through
the
teams
that
we
have
in
place.
L
Short,
this
was
something
that
was
discussed
at
the
mayor's
task
force
on
housing,
so
there
was
a
lot
more
analysis
prior
to
the
pandemic,
even
on
prioritization
of
the
the
zoning
work.
So
I'm
happy
to
see
this
because
I
think
it
does
reflect
what
page
is
saying,
which
is
the
where
the
the
real
pressures
are.
P
P
P
We
know
that
the
demand
isn't
there
on
many
of
our
routes
that
we
had
prior
to
covid
and
that
we're
running
at
about
25
to
30
percent
of
of
our
capacity,
I'm
not
so
worried
about
the
capital
dollars
for
transit,
but
I'm
definitely
worried
about
the
operating
dollars.
I'm
also
worried
about
staff's
capacity.
P
B
C
Sheila,
I
wonder
that
this
you're
talking
about
transit,
but
you
it
also
mentions
in
all
of
the
bullet
points
active
modes
of
transportation.
And
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
to
that.
If
we're
by
you
know
not
moving
ahead
with
examining
the
feasibility
of
a
transit
corridor
or
we're
also
stopping
any
kind
of
plans
of
creating
kind
of
better
walking
paths
and
for
other
active
transportation,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
more
people
are.
J
P
P
This
this
particular
strategy
is
really
about
intersections
and
what's
happening
in
an
intersection,
and
so
when
we
design
intersections
now,
it's
not
just
about
moving
motorists
through
there.
It's
about
that,
but
it's
also
about,
as
I
said,
giving
transit
priority
and
then
how
cyclists
and
pedestrians
are
protected
and
and
have
some
priority
in
in
and
all
of
that
is
in
the
design.
P
H
Thanks
sheila,
as
you're
talking,
I
was
just
thinking
about
the
transit
operators.
I'm
wondering
about
future
expansion
capacity
are
the
people
who
are
not
driving
now
that
were
furloughed
or
they
laid
off,
or
will
there
be
any
staffing
problems
when
we
revisit
the
future
expansion
in
years
to
come
due
to
people
not
being
able
to
work
right
now
because
of
cogan.
J
H
B
P
So
again,
for
all
of
the
for
all
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
with
transit
and
the
fact
that
we're
we're
not
even
back
to
our
normal
service
levels,
where
we
also
have
concerns
with
pursuing
spending
staff
time
on
on
this
particular
initiative
in
terms
of
exploring
the
rural
connections,
we
don't
know
what
what
funding
will
be
available
to
us.
So
this
would
be
a
true
expansion
of
service,
and
we
there
are
just
so
many
unknowns.
P
We
have
no
idea
yet
what
the
impact
of
work
from
home
as
a
result
of
code
is
going
to
do
to
the
demand
for
service
and
that's
both
in
the
urban
area
and
the
rural
areas.
So
we
think
that
we
just
need
to
buy
some
time
on
this
one
and
again
it's
not
that
it's
it's
going
completely
out
of
plan,
but
we
think
that
we
need
to
revisit
the
timing
for
this
by
the
end
of
next
year.
O
We,
as
I
indicated
earlier
when
I
made
my
opening
comments,
there
are
a
number
of
positions
that
obviously
we
did
put
a
hold
on
in
terms
of
recruitment,
because
during
copen
19,
first
of
all,
it
was.
It
was
a
very
challenging
time
as
far
as
recruitment
is
concerned,
but
also
because
we
were
trying
to
to
be
fiscally
prudent
and
achieve
some
savings
by
by
taking
those
actions.
So
we
have
the
resources
that
we
have
internally.
O
B
B
B
So
if
you
as
you
go
through
that
think
about
that,
because
it's
for
it
to
come
back
in
november,
you
all
more
than
a
majority
of
you
have
to
agree
that
you
do
not
want
to
delay
or
deferral.
That
you'd
like
to
revisit
this
item.
Is
that
clear?
Have
I
made
that
clear?
Sorry,
it's
getting
to
that
point!
Yep!
Okay!
I
saw
robert
go
wait
so
brian.
Can
I
pass
it
over
to
you
and
we
will
literally
go
item
by
item.
A
A
A
A
A
D
Fine,
thank
you
ryan
through
you,
I'm
just
gonna
vote
against
this,
and
part
of
the
reason
is,
is
that
it's
just
it
always
just
ends
up
being
on
the
back
burner.
I
know
this
was
something
that
gary
and
I
champions
priorities
and
as
long
as
I've
been
on
council
so
going
past
five
years
now.
This
has
always
been
something
we've
talked
about.
I
understand
if
other
people
support
it,
I
guess
my
fear,
so
I.
D
D
I
just
wanted
to
voice
that
because
that's
what
I
believe
gary
and
I
are
hearing
from
our
residents-
is
the
fact
that
other
places
have
come
with
some
type
of
pilot
that
didn't
have
to
be
expensive
and
it
was
probably
simple
and
we're
now
going
on
four
or
five
years
of
just
talking.
We
don't
even
have
an
idea
of
what
to
try.
So
it's
it's
I
have,
I
might
have
options
to
go
back
to
from
residents.
I
can't
support
pushing
this
thanks.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
patterson.
I
do
agree
with
ryan.
I
mean
I
did
second
it
because
I
listened
to
the
presentation
and
I'm
recognizing
ryan
does
have
probably
have
more
pressures
than
me
acute
as
his
community
is
growing,
and
you
know
I
think
that
we
have
to
leave
it
with
in
the
good
hands
in
this
situation.
I
wanted
to
say
I
recognized
that
I
heard
sheila
very
loud
and
clear
of
the
the
crisis
that
they're
in
so
I
I
didn't.
F
F
So
I
don't
want
to
speak
at
both
sides
of
my
mouth,
because
I
I
want
I
I'm
trusting
we're
going
to
look
at
it
and
and
ryan's
area
pittsburgh
is,
is
getting
to
be
really
really
important.
So
I
just
want
to
explain
why
I
seconded
it,
because,
though
I
want
it,
I
want
to
recognize
what
we're
in
and
that's
why.
A
A
The
reason
why
I'm
going
to
support
the
deferral
is
because
my
concern
is
it's
a
pilot.
If
we
run
the
pilot
when
transit
ridership
is
already
down,
my
biggest
concern
is
that
the
pilot
will
fail
and
we'll
show
that
there
isn't
a
demand
for
rural
transit,
because
the
conditions
aren't
right.
So
that
is
the
only
reason
why
I'm
supporting
the
deferral
not
because
I'm
not
supportive
of
it.
A
M
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
talk
about
innovative
ideas
that
might
be
useful
even
to
the
westbrook
residents
and
or
or
you
know,
the
thousand
islands
parkway
for
for
ryan's
area,
and
I
think
we
can
look
at
mechanisms
to
pursue
that
and
have
it
still
on
the
burner
to
have
a
conversation
rather
than
having
it
take
down
the
road.
So
I
will
not
be
supporting
this
girl.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
B
Well
done
you're
such
a
fine
chair.
I
do
so
appreciate
you,
brian
okay,
so
we're
going
to
move
to
the
blue
initiatives
and
for
our
blue
initiatives.
We
are
going
to
first
hear
a
presentation
from
lanny.
There
are
a
couple
of
proposals
that
have
come
forward.
You
would
have
noted
in
exhibit
b
will
give
you
a
chance
to
ask
questions
of
clarity
and
then
we're
going
to
go
around
council
to
see
if
there's
any
new
initiatives
that
you
believe
are
very
essential.
B
I
want
to
point
out.
This
is
obviously
not
a
great
climate
to
be
adding
a
pile
of
new
things
and
part
of
what
we're
doing
today
is
refreshing
and
funneling
and
figuring
out
where
the
best
place
to
put
our
energy
is
given
covet
19.,
I
I
will
say
I
did
get
a
chance
to
read
about
the
city
pivoting
and
doing
a
lot
in
the
homelessness
realm
last
spring,
and
that's
a
perfect
example
of
responding
to
an
emerging
need
and
and
deciding
that
this
is
an
important
thing.
B
So
we
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
put
any
new
ideas
up
on
the
table
and
then
we
will
take
a
short
break
and
we
will
do
a
vote
like
we
have
in
the
past
it.
I
won't.
We
won't
get
stick
stickers
up,
but
you'll
get
to
sort
of
put
we'll
track
on
a
matrix
for
you
what
your
votes
are.
So
we
can
see
sort
of
the
overall
energy
and
resonance
with
the
broader
council
around
particular
initiatives
and
which
ones
are
deemed
to
be
the
highest
priority.
B
O
Thank
you
suzanne.
So
as
as
suzanne
indicated,
the
the
blue
category
is
really
to
to
look
at
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
the
recommendations
that
you
have
on.
The
slide.
Right
now
are
about
redefining
council
priorities,
so
there
was
one
in
particular
that
focused
on
food
security
and
at
the
time,
obviously
that
that
was
brought
forward
by
council.
There
were
a
couple
of
things
that
were
in
there
a
couple
of
initiatives.
One
was
to
look
at
our
processes,
our
policies,
and
how
can
we
improve
that?
O
The
other
one
was
to
work
on
the
culinary
strategy.
So
we
know
that
with
cobin
19,
there
have
been
a
lot
of
changes
in
our
community
and
we've
seen
a
significant
increase
in
terms
of
demand
and
need
for
food
services.
So,
for
example,
food
bank.
You
see
an
increasing
number
of
requests
that
are
coming
in.
We
know
as
well
that
there
have
been
a
number
of
meal
programs
that
have
been
highly
utilized
in
the
community.
So
in
this
case
we
are
not
suggesting
that
the
priority
is
new
itself.
O
So
these
two
recommendations
are
really
about
redefining
or
coming
back
to
council,
with
a
plan
that
expands
the
scope,
not
necessarily
throwing
away
what
had
been
already
endorsed,
but
expanding
that
scope.
I
think
suzanne
talked
about
as
well
the
ability
to
add
to
this
list,
and-
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that,
when
we're
talking
about
adding
we're
talking
about
new
things
in
light
of
code
19,
because
there
are
many
things-
I'm
sure
that
would
be
ideal
if
we
could,
if
we
could
move
forward
with
different
initiatives.
O
B
The
good
news
can,
I
clarify
the
good
news
is:
is
tonight
you're
not
actually
voting?
What
we're
doing
is
we're
going
to
do
a
poll
like
we've
done
before
to
get
a
gauge,
because
we
recognize
that
collectively
you
could
come
up
with
12
new
ideas
that
are
very
covet
specific,
and
so
that
would
provide
some
ideas
and
frame
for
city
staff
to
go
away
and
develop.
Some
concrete
plans
engaged
against
the
interest
of
council
so
simon.
This
is
initial
and
it's
preliminary
it's
to
help
shape
what
comes
back
in
november.
M
So
just
for
clarification,
suzanne.
This
is
covet
specific,
only
colbert,
specific
issues,
but
my
concern
is:
we
also
still
have
a
number
of
items.
I
know
counselor
piling
robert
indicated
that
we
have
another
couple:
motions
that
are
still
on
the
table
that
have
not
been
addressed,
such
as
the
water
security
motion
that
passed
unanimously,
and
that
will
not
be
reflected.
So
I
don't
want
to
add
new
items
to
the
workload
of
staff
if
we
can't
account
for
them
of
the
emotions
that
have
already
been
put
forward.
A
Thanks
dan,
so
simon,
that's
a
perfectly
valid
position,
but
it's
something
that
council
is
going
to
have
to
decide
as
a
whole.
So
what
what
we
would
do
is
and-
and
I
think
we
were
pretty
clear
in
this-
that
there
would
be
a
chance
to
to
look
at
anything-
that's
missing
from
the
plan
relative
to
covid.
So
we
can.
A
We
can
open
the
floor,
we
can
throw
items
out.
We
can
then
vote
or
prioritize
about
what
then
staff
would
want
to
work
on,
not
that
they're
going
to
do
that.
They
would
then
come
back
with
a
proposal
to
council
and
then
council
can
vote
whether
or
not
we
want
to
do
it.
So
I
kind
of
just
go
back
to
my
earlier
comment
that
this
is
not
saying
we're
going
to
do
anything
and
it's
perfectly
valid
at
the
end
for
for
council
to
say
no,
but
it
has
to
be
council
as
a
whole.
A
D
Thanks
yeah,
I'm
kind
of
I
I'd,
be
fine
to
support
kind
of
these
two
and
exploring
them
a
little
bit
more.
But
I
guess
I
kind
of
feel
like
before
we
explore
any
new
covert.
Related
strategies
is
like
I.
I
have
to
go
back
and
and
really
ask
that
question
to
to
my
residents
and
my
constituents
in
a
sense
simply
because
the
questions
that
I've
been
asking
up
until
this
point
was
more
on.
How
do
you
feel
about
associated
priorities,
as
I
didn't
really
say
like?
D
Do
you
think,
there's
something
missing
that
you
need
to
add.
That's
covet
specific,
so
I
I
kind
of
feel
I
guess
like
having
a
little
bit
more
time
to.
I
guess,
frame
that
question
and
see
what
ideas
are
out
there,
because
I
don't
have
anything
covet
specific
right
now
that
I
could
throw
out
and
also
I
won't.
D
B
A
A
I
mean
we've
heard
it
very
clearly
from
from
gary
and
it's
not
something,
that's
necessarily
in
the
plan,
but
I
I
think
that
the
need
for
it
is
really
great,
and
so
I
don't
even
know
what
that
looks
like
and
obviously
it's
you
know.
I've
come
back
with
something
that's
like
ridiculously
expensive.
I
personally
wouldn't
support
it,
but
I
just
think
that
that
would
be
an
example
of
something
that
maybe
we
could
ask
staff
staff
to
look
at.
That's
something
that
I've
heard
about
it
a
lot.
I
agree.
I
agree
with
the
comments.
A
This
should
be
pretty
narrow
here.
This
isn't
this
isn't
like
reinventing
the
wheel
or
throwing
it
like
a
whole
bunch
of
ideas
just
because,
because
we
like
that
would
be
something
that
I
would
see
as
being
covered
specific
just
because
of
the
the
feedback
we've
gotten
from
rural
areas.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
so
maybe
I
could
just
throw
that
as
a
possibility.
C
I'm
thanks
susan,
I'm
not
sure
if
I
really
understand
the
discussion,
because
these
points
are
part
of
our
strategic
plan,
and
so
what
part
of
this
is
new?
It's
just
in
all
the
strategic
plan,
as
we
always
say,
is
high
level
anyhow,
so
we
need
to
adapt
it
to
the
time.
So
I'm
not
like
I'm
not.
I
don't.
I'm
not
sure
if
I
understand
the
concern
about
introducing
something
new,
because
it's
right
in
here
so.
B
So
bridgette,
let
me
speak
to
this.
The
two
initiatives
that
are
listed
are
already
in
the
strategic
plan,
and
I
think
what
lanny
was
saying
is
the
the
focus
would
look
a
little
different
coming
back
given
kovitz,
so
they
would
like
sort
of
some
direction
to
some
agreement
from
council
to
go
away
and
re-prioritize
some
of
the
pieces
that
were
being
done
in
those
two.
B
So
the
the
goals
are
still
the
same,
but
the
frame
and
the
focus
and
the
priority
within
it
would
change,
and
they
would
like
to
bring
it
back
at
the
next
meeting.
And
then
the
idea
of
something
new
would
be,
for
example,
how
you
pivoted
in
this
in
the
springtime
around
homelessness.
But
I
think
bran.
The
broadband
is
a
perfect
example,
and
I
think
there
was
a
feeling
that,
if
we're
going
to
refresh,
we
should
look
at
what
we
need
to
defer
and
can't
do.
B
A
Suzanne,
I'm
just
I'm
just
gonna
jump
in
on
this,
I'm
wondering
if
I
could
see
everybody's
faces.
Maybe
that's
okay.
I
mean
there
is
an
alternative
here.
There
is
an
alternative.
Is
that
if
people
aren't
comfortable
with
this
process,
we
can
just
look
at
these
two
blue
items,
and
you
know
we
we
can
have
a
look.
You
know
like
for
rural
broadband.
I
could.
I
could
bring
forward
a
motion
to
a
regular
council
meeting.
We
would
have
that
discussion
if
the
council
would
prefer
that
I
don't
want
to.
A
I
don't
want
to
create
a
process
that
that
counts.
You
know
we
don't
want
a
process
that
council
is
not
comfortable
with,
so
if
the
majority
of
council
would
refer
not
to
throw
new
initiatives
at
this
point,
you
know
we
can
we
don't
have
to.
I
would.
I
was
just
thinking
of
something
copic
specific,
that
we
could
then
direct,
have
a
look
at
and
then
come
back
to,
but
we
could
do
it
in
separate
goodness
of
motion,
for
example.
A
L
I'm
just
really
struggling
with
why
we're
having
this
conversation.
At
this
moment
I
mean
there
are
two
different
things
that
we're
supposed
to
be.
I
believe,
if
we
could
go
back
a
few
slides,
I
think
we
were
supposed
to
be
talking
about
the
the
blue
items
being
the
items
that
come
back
with
more
information
and
then
there
would
be
a
possibility
to
have
a
conversation
about
any
new
things
and
then
we've
jumped
ahead
to
have
the
conversation
about
the
what
being
afraid
of
the
new
things.
B
So
mary
vito,
we
definitely
can
and
will
have
that
conversation
about
the
blue
things.
I
think
the
the
piece
that
people
are
uncomfortable
with
is
the
new
ideas,
and
I
think
that
what
city
staff
really
wanted
was,
if
you
had
anything
pressing,
you
thought
was
essential
for
the
community.
If
you
could
identify
it
tonight,
we
could
get,
and
this
isn't
a
vote
of
majority.
L
B
B
We
thought
we
would,
if,
if
you
came
up
with
a
number
of
ideas,
we'd
democracy
it
to
see
what
was
the
top
priority
to
help
shape
it,
because
I
mean
to
everybody's
point:
adding
many
new
things
is
not
the
right
way
to
go.
You've
got
to
stay
focused,
so
I
I
really
defer
to
council
decide
what
is
the
best
process
for
you
to
do
this.
We
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
had
a
chance
to
generate
so
I'm
going
to
go
to
brian
and
then
jim's
next,
in
the
queue.
A
So
I'm
just
trying
to
propose
a
way
forward
here.
Are
we
okay?
Are
we
okay,
just
to
have
a
have
a
discussion
right
now
and
just
just
just
open
up
the
floor
to
ideas
and
let
let's
see
what
comes
and
then
maybe,
depending
on
what
that
discussion
looks
like,
then,
maybe
that
can
inform
how
we
want
to
handle
that
is.
Are
people
comfortable
with
that.
A
A
L
L
B
We
were
and
mary
rita
to
be
clear
because
I
was
involved
in
the
process
discussion.
The
idea
was,
the
two
blue
initiatives
would
sit
we'd
see
if
there
were
other
ideas
and
we'd
put
them
all
together
and
let
you
weigh
in
on
them
together
and
figure
out
where
the
pulse
is
so
actually
the
process
is
following
the
way
we
anticipated
it.
But
part
of
a
good
meeting
is
adapting
process
and
we
can
do
that.
L
B
H
Mean
thanks
maria,
don't
apologize,
I
kind
of
shared
your
flustered
perspective
because
I
still
don't
know
if
I'm
quite
clear,
especially
because
we
talked
at
the
beginning
about
agreeing
on
the
general
priorities
and
now
for
peppering
in
a
bunch
of
ideas,
do
we
have
to
identify
which
priority
they
fall
under?
I
mean
I'm
not
trying
to
complicate
it,
but
like
can
we.
H
B
Okay,
so
let
me
reiterate
that
you
don't
have,
I
don't
think,
for
the
purposes
of
tonight,
we
have
to
locate
which
strategy
would
fit
under
per
se.
At
this
point,
I
think
we
let
city
staff
identify
that.
That's
the
first
thing.
The
second
thing
was:
is
we
thought
if
we
had
two
from
the
staff
come
forward
and
you
wanted
to
add
anything
else,
then,
when
we
talk
about
new
initiatives,
we
talk
about
them
holistically
and
look
at
them
together.
B
The
intention
at
the
end
of
the
night
was
not
to
decide
on
which
we
would
do,
but
to
give
enough
information
to
staff
to
go
away
and
bring
something
back
that
you
read
you
have
time
to
reflect
on,
you
could
go
speak
to
constituencies,
and
then
we
would
discuss
that
in
november.
That
was
the
intention.
H
Okay,
thanks
because
the
november
part
is
key
to
me
earlier,
I
was
wondering
about
the
new
initiatives
that
had
come
up
after
strategic
planning,
so
motions
in
council
proper
that
we
haven't
heard
about
tonight
and
I
believe
it
was
lanny.
That
said,
we'll
get
a
report
in
november,
so
suzanne
you're,
saying
that
some
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
tonight
would
also
be
reported
on
in
and
around
the
same
time
for
further
celebration.
Okay,
thank
you
that
clarifies
it.
G
G
O
So
thank
you
jim
for
for
that
question
and
comment.
So
there
were
some
initiatives
in
the
council
priorities
and
we
didn't
get
into
them
in
details
because
they're
in
the
green
and
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
green.
But
there
are
some
initiatives
around
traffic
calming
already
embedded
in
your
council
priorities.
B
P
I
am
bringing
a
a
report
to
kick
the
conversation
off
to
eitp
it
at
the
october
meeting
and
we
did
hire
a
consultant
and-
and
so
we
are
starting
on
that
process.
I
I
it's
not
an
easy,
it's
not
an
easy
problem
to
answer,
and
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
of
information
that
I
can
share
right
now,
but
it's
not
been
set
aside
counselor.
A
If
the
only
other
thing
that
we
we're
thinking
about
is
rural-
and
you
know
what
we
can,
we
can
have
a
look
at
that
we
can
have
a
separate
discussion,
maybe
bring
a
motion
forward,
but
maybe
it's
best
not
to
open
up
a
process.
I
think
some
people
are
confusing
and
some
people
might
have
been
prepared
for
it
and-
and
I
think
just
given
the
number
of
heads
that
are
nodding
at
me-
suzanne
if
that's
okay,
I
think
that
that
might
just
be
the
best
way
to
go.
L
O
So,
thank
you,
mary
rita.
That's
that's
the
intent
with
the
recommendation
to
have
staff
report
back
with
some
expanded
options
to
on
in
terms
of
how
to
try
to
address
insecurity,
because
if
you
look
at
what
we
had
initially
in
the
in
the
priorities
and
initiatives,
it
was
fairly
limited
to
reviewing
our
processes
and
policies
to
try
to
accelerate
some
of
these.
O
We
think
we
should
be
expanding
some
of
these
options
in
our
scope,
maybe
even
including
you
know,
looking
at
ways
of
how
we
can
support
the
actual
local
farming
and
production
of
food
and
then
getting
that
to
distribution.
So
there
are
different
potential
initiatives
that
we
can
look
at
and
that's
what
we're
suggesting
we're
not
proposing
something.
Obviously
we
know
cost
is,
is
an
issue
and
we
have
limited
funds.
So
what
we
would
bring
back
would
be
would
be
initiatives
in
partnership
with
limited
costs
to
to
the
city.
B
A
A
B
Well,
I
I
want
to
say
that
I
believe
every
motion's
been
passed
and
we
anticipated
that
that
may
not
be
the
case
and
we're
proposing
a
november
special
meeting,
especially
with
the
idea
that
some
blue
items
might
need
some
work.
Newer
ideas
need
some
work,
so
I
just
I'm
looking
both
at
brian
and
yeah
lanny
go
for
it.
O
Thanks
suzanne,
so
I
think,
given
the
the
direction
that
we
got
from
council
tonight,
I
think
we
can
include
an
update
on
those
two
blue
recommendations
that
council
has
supported
and
bring
that
back
at
a
regular
council
meeting,
along
with
an
update
on
the
council
prior
sorry
on
the
council
motions
that
was
requested
tonight.
So,
rather
than
have
another
separate
and
special
meeting,
I
think
we
can
easily
combine
that
with
with
one
of
our
regular
updates.
H
Just
a
question
that
we
heard
the
prime
minister
yesterday
use
the
phrase
second
wave
that
I
think
all
of
us
have
been
dancing
around.
But
if
we're
deep
into
a
second
wave-
and
perhaps
god
forbid
in
another
type
of
economic
shutdown,
would
another
special
meeting
be
beneficial,
because
it's
very
likely
that
these
priorities
might
have
to
change
again?
If
it's
that
desperate.
So
I
don't
know,
I'm
just
putting
that
out.
O
So
I
I
think
robert
you're
you're
absolutely
right.
If
we
had
another
major
second
wave
where
we
were
looking
at,
you
know
a
pretty
significant
shut
shut
down.
There
would
be
some
impacts
on
the
priorities
that
we've
discussed
tonight
and
we
would
have
to
reconvene
a
time
with
council
to
have
further.
M
Thank
you,
suzanne,
actually,
lisa,
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
my
notes
with
you,
because
I
was
going
to
propose
that
as
well.
Having
worked
previously
for
bell
alliance
and
bringing
broadband
to
rural
communities
through
the
rural
connections
program
years
ago,
I
brought
broadband
to
yorker.
That's
a
close
enough
area
as
an
example.
I
do
think
that's
incredibly
important
and
it
certainly
leaves
a
message
for
our
provincial
government
to
step
up
the
network
that
they
already
have
in
place
through
the
eur
network.
I'll
be
happy
to
talk
all
about
that.
M
B
B
A
Thanks
very
much
and
again,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
helping
to
guide
us
through
all
this.
All
this
work
tonight
great
discussion,
great
work,
a
big
thank
you
to
staff
to
for
packaging
it
and
helping
us
to
work
through
all
these
items,
so
we're
ready
to
keep
working
and
moving
forward
and
we'll
deal
with
rural
broadband
at
our
next
meeting
as
well.
So
so,
thank
you,
everybody.
I
think
it's!
It's
been
a
good
good
meeting
for
sure.
So
I
think
with
that
I'll
ask
for
a
motion
to
adjourn.