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From YouTube: Kingston, Ontario - City Council - April 21, 2020
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City Council meeting from April 21, 2020. For full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3cvfTZu
A
Okay,
good
evening,
everybody
well
we'll
get
started.
Sagal
Amy,
Buju
n
do
watch
a
quake
way
as
the
Mayor
of
the
City
of
Kingston
I
offer
these
words
in
the
spirit
of
this
gathering.
Let
us
bring
our
good
minds
and
hearts
together
as
one
to
honor
and
celebrate
these
traditional
lands
as
a
gathering
place
of
the
original
peoples
and
their
ancestors
who
are
entrusted
to
care
for
mother
earth.
A
Since
time
immemorial,
it
is
with
deep
humility
that
we
acknowledge
and
offer
our
gratitude
for
their
contributions
to
this
community
having
respect
for
all
as
we
share
this
space
now
and
walk
side-by-side
into
the
future.
So
with
that,
we
will
officially
call
this
meeting
to
order.
Mr.
clerk,
do
we
have
a
quorum.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
have
nothing
under
committee
of
the
whole
closed
meeting,
so
we
will
move
to
the
approval
of
the
adits
for
our
adits.
We
have
a
motion
of
condolence
a
miscellaneous
business
item
and
then
some
communication
for
counsel
can
I
have
a
mover
for
the
audits.
Please
move
by
deputy
mayor
Neal
seconded
by
Councillor
Hill,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried.
A
Okay,
seeing
none,
then
we
will
move
on.
We
have
no
presentations
this
evening.
We
have
no
delegations,
we
do
have
one
briefing
dr.,
Karen,
Moore,
medical
officer
of
Health
for
K
FL
and
a
public
health
will
appear
before
council
to
provide
a
briefing
with
respect
to
Kovan
19
in
the
k,
FL
and
a
area
I
see
that
dr.
Moore
has
joined
us
live
on
zoom',
dr.
Morris.
Thank
you,
first
of
all
for
joining
us
this
evening
for
the
briefing
and
and
if
I
can
also
say
on
behalf
of
City
Council
and
our
entire
community.
A
B
Thanks
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
this
evening
and
through
you
to
our
community
I
believe
Derek's
going
to
handle
my
slides.
So
thanks
again,
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
this
is
a
difficult
time.
This
is
a
stressful
time
for
many
and
I
believe.
As
a
community,
we
are
working
better
now
together,
collaborating
coordinating
communicating
with
a
common
goal
to
reduce
the
effect
of
this
virus,
and
I
have
to
celebrate
that
I'm,
truly
and
humbled
by
the
work
that
we've
done
together
as
a
community
to
limit
the
spread
of
this
virus.
B
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
understand
that
many
have
made
sacrifices
economically
socially
to
limit
the
spread
of
this
and
I
very
much
appreciate
the
sacrifice,
as
many
in
our
community
are
making
and
I
I
hope
that
they
won't
last
too
long.
These
sacrifices
that
many
are
making,
but
we
must
all
remember
that
we're
in
this
together
that
each
one
has
a
role
to
play
that
we
will
get
through
this.
There
will
be
bumps
along
the
way.
B
So
the
title
for
this
is
is
the
new
normal
and
we
will
have
to
change
how
our
world
works
to
deal
with
this
virus
as
it
is
not
leaving
us,
it's
going
to
want
to
stay
and
to
come
back
on
a
seasonal
basis,
and
so
we
have
some
recommendations
on
how
we
can
deal
with
that
so
Derek.
If
you
could
move
to
the
next
slide.
B
B
B
It's
not
spread
through
the
air
in
general,
and
so
you
must
be
in
close
personal
contact
with
someone
who
would
sneeze
or
cough
on
you
to
spread
this
virus
and
and
we've
learned
that,
through
multiple
studies
from
China,
that
it
is
the
highest
risk
of
some
close
personal
contact.
The
Communist
symptoms
are
fever
and
or
cough
and
or
increased
difficulty
breathing.
But
at
our
assessment
centers
now
we
will
expand
that
to
include
a
new
sore
throat,
a
new
laryngitis,
a
new
cough
and
or
sinusitis
or
runny
nose,
etc.
B
So
we've
expanded
the
symptoms
to
be
even
more
inclusive
and
to
test
more
people
and
that's
an
important
message
for
our
community.
Generally.
It
takes
around
five
to
seven
days
for
someone
to
start
developing
symptoms
if,
if
they've
caught
the
virus
and
and
that
can
be
as
long
as
14
days
and
if
you
get
the
virus,
some
people
will
shed
virus
before
they
even
develop
sim.
B
B
So
we
have
been
planning
for
pandemics
all
along
it's
a
core
function
of
Public
Health.
In
just
this
August
of
2019,
we
had
a
major
meeting
of
all
of
our
partners,
a
hundred
people
at
kfl
na
and
our
sister
health
units,
with
our
paramedics
and
our
acute
care
and
long-term
care
partners.
So
we
do
have
plans
in
place
that
we
dust
off
and
work
through
and
have
implemented
for
this
new
kovat
virus.
B
B
The
city's
done
great
work
both
for
vulnerable
for
homeless
and
and
working
with
us
by
allowing
us
to
work
at
the
Memorial
Arena,
where
we
provide
assessment
of
patients.
It's
been
a
great
partnership
and
it
I
hope
and
expect
it
will
absolutely
continue
the
next
slide
in
terms
of
flattening
the
curve.
This
is
a
theory.
So
if
you
look
at
this
dotted
line,
that's
what
numerous
areas
of
the
world
are
experiencing.
B
If
you
include
New
York
many
cities
in
the
United
States
at
present,
as
well
as
northern
Italy,
they
had
very
little
control
of
the
epidemic
and
it
basically
had
a
significant
health
impact
on
their
community
with
high
morbidity
and
high
mortality.
We
have
learned
from
those
areas
in
our
province
has
enacted
the
Civil
Protection
Act,
which
quietened
and
dampened
and
flattened
the
curve.
So
what
we're
seeing
in
KF
LA
is
we've
gone
through
our
first
epidemic
curve.
It
peaked
on
April
5th.
B
We
had
around
50
patients,
mainly
those
that
are
repatriating
returning
travelers,
that
brought
saw
Kovan
19
into
the
community,
but
because
of
our
combined
efforts
of
our
community,
it
did
not
propagate
significantly
and
we
went
through
that
very
first
wave
without
any
significant
impact
on
the
healthcare
system.
We
only
had
a
few
patients
admitted
to
the
hospital
and
most
did
very
well
at
home,
and
we
have
recovered
fully.
But
it's
important
that
our
community
understand
because
we've
dampened
the
wave
and
we
didn't
have
a
significant
rise.
B
We
will
have
ongoing
small
outbreaks
that
Public
Health
will
work
with
our
health
system
partners
to
minimize
that
its
impact
on
our
this
virus
will
not
be
eliminated.
It
will
have
to
be
lived
with
and
we'll
have
to
try
to
get
back
to
some
type
of
normalcy.
While
we
control
the
effect
of
this
virus
on
our
community
and
limit
its
effect
on
the
most
vulnerable,
which
are
elderly,
those
over
70,
those
in
long-term
care
facilities,
those
in
corrections
facilities,
those
in
group,
homes,
etc.
B
So
our
strategy
has
worked,
we've
already
been
through
one
wave
and
I
have
to
tell
you
and
through
you
to
the
community
that
we
will
go
through
other
waves.
It
will
go
in
a
small
undulation
and
it's
our
combined
responsibility
as
a
community
to
limit
its
effect
in
our
community
has
risen
to
this
occasion.
They've
done
appropriate
social
distancing,
physical
distancing,
hand-washing
staying
at
home
if
you're
sick
get
tested.
If
you
have
the
symptoms
consistent
with
kovat
19,
the
system
has
worked
locally
and,
as
a
result,
we
haven't
had
significant
impact
on
the
health
system.
B
We
haven't
inundated
our
emergency
departments,
like
other
communities
have
suffered
and
to
date
and
I'm
knocking
on
wood.
We've
had
no
deaths
in
our
community,
which
is
something
we
should
celebrate
today.
Only
because
we
work
so
well
together
as
a
community
to
limit
the
effect
both
on
our
most
vulnerable
and
in
our
long-term
care
facilities
to
date.
Next
slide,
so
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
our
website
at
kfl,
a
public
health
CA,
so
kfl
AP
HCA,
where
we
provide
transparently
our
updated
data,
and
this
was
as
of
three
o'clock
I'm.
B
Sorry,
it
updates
at
4:30.
We
now
have
59
cases
with
only
5
still
in
the
community.
52
or
54
have
completely
resolved
their
symptoms
and
one
person
is
in
hospital
and
stable
at
present
and
again
we
have
no
deaths
in
our
community
and
and
I
have
to
celebrate
that.
This
is
only
because
we
work
together
so
well
communicating
collaborating
and
coordinating
and
the
last
week
we've
only
seen
one
or
two.
B
This
is
just
showing
you
numerous
epidemic
curve,
so
incidents
of
disease
over
time
and
we've
highlighted
here
in
in
gray
what
where
New
York
is
at,
which
is
at
a
very
high
frequency
of
increase
Italy.
Now
his
son
finally
peaked
in
incidence.
Canada
was
increasing
steadily
and
Ontario's.
Epidemic
curve
is
starting
to
flatten
and
Kingston
flattened
roughly
two
weeks
ago
and
has
remained
steady
state
and
it's
our
goal
to
continue
it
as
a
steady-state.
C
B
Incidence
area
next
slide
I
also
want
to
thank
once
again
the
city
of
Kingston
for
letting
us
use
the
Memorial
Center,
where
we've
been
assessing
from
eighty
to
a
hundred
patients
a
day
on
average
and
a
high
proportion
of
them
have
been
tested.
Now
that
we
have
greater
testing
capacity
and
also
that
Lennox
and
Addington
community
General
Hospital
has
been
a
great
partner
in
early
assessment
and
together,
I
think
having
early
assessment.
B
Our
hospitals
have
been
working
diligently
to
increase
their
capacity,
because
part
of
our
purpose
was
to
minimize
the
effect
on
the
acute
care
sector
so
I
to
also
celebrate
Kingston
Health
Sciences
Center
has
done
a
remarkable
job
of
increasing
the
number
of
beds
that
are
available
and
as
of
this
morning,
although
the
numbers
fluctuate,
it
was
around
123
and
they've
made
a
great
progress,
increasing
the
number
of
ventilators
and
critical
care
capacity
at
Kingston,
General
Hospital.
So
this
community
should
be
aware
of
the
great
work.
B
So
it's
a
very
important
that
this
work
that
our
community's
done
to
limit
the
spread
has
really
enabled
our
health
system
to
prepare
and
to
respond
to
this
new
threat.
This
work
has
been
done
diligently
and
thoroughly
and
I'm
very
impressed
with
the
work
led
by
dr.
Bakura
at
the
Kingston
General
Hospital
and
Kathy
Sabo
at
a
Providence
care
hospital.
B
It's
been
remarkable
progress
on
making
that
increased
bed
capacity
where
we
were
full
to
the
rafters
prior
to
this
occurring
and
and
now
they've
they've
enabled
this
so
that
our
patients
in
our
community
can
be
provided
the
right
care
at
the
right
place
at
the
right
time
if
needed.
But
at
present,
as
we've
said,
we've
done
a
great
job
at
limiting
the
spread
of
this
virus
in
our
community.
Next
slide.
B
I
also
want
to
celebrate,
and
this
is
these
are
good
news
stories-
our
paramedics,
both
in
Lennox
and
Addington,
and
Frontenac-
we've
partnered
with
them,
so
that
they
can
do
swabbing
at
someone
if
required,
and
we're
encouraging
them
to
apply
for
funding
for
community
paramedicine
work
and
paramedics
have
worked
at
our
assessment
center
with
us
to
seamlessly
provide
care
to
individuals
and
to
help
us
with
transfer
or
or
transport.
If
and
when
required
and
they've
been
great
partners
as
well.
Next
slide,
our
long-term
care
in
retirement
homes
again
have
been
a
priority
from
us.
B
So
that's
a
remarkable
position
that
we
are
in
to
be
able
to
celebrate
how
limited
the
spread
has
been
in
those
institutions
which
are
vulnerable
next
slide.
The
story
across
the
province,
though,
is
different,
as
you
see
in
the
blue
line.
These
are
the
cumulative
number
of
cases
of
residents
in
long-term
care
facilities
across
Ontario,
the
cumulative
number
of
staff
that
have
tested
positive
and,
sadly,
the
number
of
deaths
that
occurred
in
long-term
care
facilities.
It
remains
a
high
vulnerable
area
for
us.
B
We
and
kfl
na
and
across
the
health
system
are
working
diligently
to
continue
to
to
protect
that
vulnerable
population,
and
we
will
be
continuing
to
do
that
day
in
day
out.
You
have
our
assurance
again,
I'm,
struck
and
humbled
by
how
well
where
we
are
working
together
to
protect
these
populations
next
slide.
B
We
are
also
working
at
correction
services,
so
we
in
kfl
na
have
over
two
thousand
inmates
of
the
federal
corrections
facilities
and
over
two
hundred
in
our
provincial
facility
in
Quinte,
not
in
that
Bini.
So
we've
been
partnering
with
them
to
provide
the
same
resources
of
infection,
prevention,
control
and
outbreak
management,
surveillance
and
testing
of
individuals
within
their
jurisdiction,
and
that
partnership
has
been
successful.
We've
had
and
I'm
knocking
on
wood
no
outbreaks
in
these
facilities,
and
yet
there
are
numerous
outbreaks
across
the
country
so
again
have
to
salute
the
work.
B
That's
been
done
to
date
and
the
partnerships
that
have
been
established
next
slide
planning
ahead.
Clearly,
the
only
way
we
can
reduce
the
impact
of
this
virus
is
either
we
we
acquire
immunity
through
having
been
infected
and
that's
not
the
best
means
of
acquiring
immunity.
That
would
take
around
70%
of
our
population,
on,
on
average,
would
have
to
get
a
natural
acquired
immunity
to
this
infection
to
limit
its
spread.
B
So
140,000
of
us
in
kfl
ma
that's
not
an
option,
and
so
we
are
anticipating
having
the
production
of
a
vaccine,
but
that
is
still
8
12
to
18
months
away
and
clearly
from
a
public
health
managed
point.
We
wouldn't
endorse
a
vaccine
till
we
knew
with
certainty
that
it
was
safe
and
that
it
was
effective
we
would
have
to
meet.
B
Our
standards
are
very
high
standards
for
vaccines
to
be
given
across
to
a
population,
so
we
will
continue
to
monitor
the
effectiveness
of
vaccines
and
their
creation
and
their
research
and
their
publications,
but
this
is
still
a
long
ways
away.
So
we
have
a
journey
together
as
a
community
to
make
over
the
next
12
to
18
months,
where
we're
going
to
have
to
be
vigilant.
We're
going
to
have
to
continue
to
work
so
well
together
to
protect
the
virus
entering
into
our
community
next
slide.
D
B
Be
the
maintenance
of
physical
distancing
social
distancing
hand,
wash
hand
hygiene
staying
at
home
if
you're
sick,
getting
tested
for
kovat?
If
you
develop
any
respiratory
illness
with
any
symptoms,
that's
gonna
be
our
new,
normal
and
potentially
wearing
a
mask
in
public.
If
we
can't
maintain
physical
distancing
that
will
have
to
continue
for
the
next
12
18
24
months
until
and
such
time
we
get
an
adequate
treatment.
B
And/Or
an
immunization,
the
w-h-o
has
created
criteria,
and
these
have
been
validated
by
the
Public
Health
Ontario
public
health
agency
of
Canada
and
the
CDC
as
criteria
by
which
we
can
start
transitioning
and
opening
up
our
economy
in
a
phased,
reasonable,
prudent
and
slow
manner.
I
would
point
to
you
that
it's
my
belief
in
in
kfl
na
that
the
transmission
has
been
controlled.
To
date
we
have
been
through
our
first
wave.
We
haven't
had
any
significant
rise.
B
We've
been
able
to
use
public
health
measures
to
limit
its
impact
in
our
community
on
point
number
two
and
the
Health
System
has
significant
capacity.
We
still
need
personal
protective
equipment.
We
only
have
a
week
supply
locally
and
across
Ontario,
so
that
basic
equipment
still
needs
to
be
improved,
and
we
also
need
better
access
to
testing.
B
We
have
maybe
a
week
or
two
supply
for
adequate
testing,
but
we
could
potentially
run
out
of
some
of
the
components
for
testing,
so
personal
protective
equipment,
testing
capacity
and
treatment
capacity
are
still
issues
because
we've
heard
from
our
critical
care
experts
that
they
may
not
have
all
the
medications
they
need.
If
we
get
a
sudden
wrap-up
in
a
need
for
critical
care
resources.
B
Certainly,
the
Americans
in
the
United
States
have
a
much
higher
incidence
than
we
have
right
now
and
our
have
much
higher
percent
positivity
in
all
of
their
tests
and
a
high
impact
on
their
health
system
right
now,
so
that
protection
will
have
to
remain
in
place
and
I.
Think
six
is
very
important
that
we
engage
our
communities
understand
the
role
that
they
have
to
play
on,
protecting
and
adhering
to
those
social
and
physical
distancing
rules
and
understand
from
them
how
we
get
back
to
our
social
and
economic
life.
B
But
again
that
has
to
be
in
a
phased,
reasonable,
prudent,
controlled
manner
and
we're
not
there
yet
from
a
Health
Systems
vantage
point
next
slide
so
or
I
mentioned
these
issues
already
in
terms
of
recovery
plan.
We
have
to
deal
with
these
health
system
issues
and
we
hope
that
the
supply
related
to
these
components
will
improve
over
the
next
several
weeks
to
month
next
slide.
B
So
my
key
messages
are
that
as
a
community,
this
again,
this
virus
isn't
going
away.
But
I
want
to
thank
the
community
for
having
been
so
diligent
and
adhering
to
social
and
physical
distancing.
We
should
continue
to
stay
at
home
unless
you
have
other
important
issues
to
do
to
go
shopping,
etc,
especially
if
you're
over
70
continue
our
good
hand,
hygiene,
our
physical
distancing.
B
We
must
be
very
sensitive
to
vulnerable
members
of
our
community
and
continue
to
include
them
in
our
chain
of
protection
and
that
we
must
continue
to
be
vigilant
to
protect
our
community
against
this
aggressive
virus.
We
will
get
through
this.
We
have
done
a
remarkable
job
to
date,
as
a
community
have
to
applaud
everyone's
efforts
to
limit
the
spread
of
this
virus,
and
we
will
come
out
the
other
side
of
this
stronger,
but
I.
A
It's
a
thank
you
very
much
dr.
Moore
for
that
that
briefing
so
we'll
move
into
questions
at
this
point,
I'm
actually
going
to
kick
things
off
with
a
couple
of
questions
and
then
we'll
go
down
the
list
from
there.
So
dr.
Pillai,
I,
think
my
first
question
and
and
I've
certainly
heard
this
from
from
a
number
of
constituents.
A
I
think
are-
are
scared
that
once
we
start
to
lift
the
restrictions
that
are
already
in
place
that
they're
they're
concerned
about
that
the
number
of
cases
could
go
up
or
that
we
could
see
a
surge
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
what
would
you?
What
would
you
say
to
to
our
residents
and
constituents
that
are
that
are
scared
if
we
are
looking
at,
you
know,
moving
forward
and
eventually
will,
at
the
right
time,
look
to
lift
some
of
those
restrictions.
What
what
is
the?
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question.
I
absolutely
want
to
acknowledge
that
many
are
concerned,
and
many
do
have
fear
in
our
community
and
it
is
appropriate
if
you're
watching
the
news
out
there
of
what's
going
on
in
the
United
States
and
northern
Italy
etc.
But
that
is
not
our
reality
locally
I
think
we
should
be
watching
our
local
data
and
our
local
risk
and
our
local
risk
is
low.
Yes,
we
have
to
hunker
down,
but
we
can't
live
inside
a
crystal
ball
over
our
area.
B
We
will
have
new
cases
coming
and
going,
but
I
hope
if
the
last
five
to
six
weeks
are
any
indicator.
Your
public
health
agency
has
shown
our
capacity
to
to
assess
to
test,
to
identify
individuals
in
our
community
to
chase
down
any
contacts
that
they've
had
effectively
and
limit
the
spread
of
this
virus,
because
everyone
has
played
their
part.
Everyone
has
played
their
role
in
terms
of
getting
assess,
isolating
appropriately,
telling
us
who
their
contacts
are,
and
that
has
worked
very
well
today.
They
should
also
have
confidence
in
the
hospital
system.
B
The
hospital
system
has
remarkably
improved
their
capacity.
They
have
the
beds
the
critical
care
requirements
that
are
necessary
in
case
we
have
any
increase
in
inpatients
requiring
hospitalization
in
our
area.
So
all
that
hard
work
that
we've
done
over
the
last
six
weeks
has
enabled
us
to
better
prepare
to
better
respond
to
and
to
recover
from
the
threat
of
this
virus.
B
This
virus,
though,
is
not
going
away
and
over
time
we
need
to
balance
the
social,
the
economic
needs
of
our
community
with
the
health
needs
of
our
community
and
the
longer
that
we
keep
people
isolated.
The
longer
that
we
keep
people
in
their
homes.
I
I
have
concerns
that
there
will
be
mental
health,
physical
health
issues
and
in
the
overtime
we
will
need
to
find
the
right
balance.
I
think
we
can
do
it
prudently.
We
can
do
it
reasonably.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
My
last
question
relates
to
to
something
that
you
would
mention
during
your
presentation,
but
I
just
like
to
clarify
what
I
think
that
heard.
Of
course
there
was
some
concern.
Certainly
I
was
concerned
and
many
others
to
hear
the
news
yesterday
that
there
was
a
positive
case
that
had
been
identified
at
prom
news
and
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
any
update
or
information
that
you
can
give
us
I'm
sure,
there's
probably
been
additional
testing
just
to
see
if
there
any
other
cases.
B
To
again
celebrate
the
hard
work
that
Providence
Manor
has
put
in
place
to
reduce
the
risk
of
this
infection
in
their
community,
so
any
worker
at
Providence
Manor
is,
is
wearing
a
mask
now
they're
having
their
symptoms
checked
twice
a
day.
The
the
patient's
in
Providence
Manor
are
being
assessed
for
any
new
symptoms
that
could
be
related
to
kovat
every
single
day,
they're
being
tested
effectively
and
appropriately.
So
good
measures
have
been
in
place
to
protect
the
people
and
patients
who
work
and
live
in
retirement
homes
in
our
area
it
the
end.
B
Current
investigation
is
ongoing.
The
we
have
had
no
other
positive
tests
in
staff
or
patients
to
date
with
that
information
still
coming
to
us
and
I
won't
clearly
identify
any
individual,
that's
been
affected,
but
any
subsequent
tests
done
in
the
hospital
have
both
been
negative
on
this
individual.
So
if
the
individual
truly
did
have
kovat
19,
their
first
test
was
a
low
positive
test.
Two
subsequent
tests
have
been
negative,
so
we
are
still
investing
this
ongoing
situation,
but
the
risk
appears
to
be
very
low
at
present.
B
E
Thank
you.
A
couple
of
questions.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
both
you
and
your
staff.
I'm
one
of
the
three
councillors
that
sit
on
Public,
Health
and
they've
been
doing
a
very
impressive
job
for
a
very
long
time.
A
couple
of
questions
I
know
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
news
regarding
the
curve
and
is
it
I
mean
I
know.
British
Columbia
was
one
of
the
first
reported
cases.
If
what
the
very
first
one
was
in
Toronto,
but
the
first
onset
seemed
to
be
in
BC,
have
they
pretty
much
flattened
their
curve?
B
Yeah,
it
does
appear
thanks
very
much
for
your
question
Jim
and
thanks
for
serving
on
our
board.
Your
guidance
has
always
been
appreciated
to
us
at
KF,
LNA
and
I'll.
Pass
on
your
your
thanks
to
our
team's
BC
seems
to
have
flattened
their
curve
and,
as
a
result,
they
are
starting
to
review
how
they
can
reduce
some
of
the
some
of
the
limitations
that
they
put
on
their
community
to
limit
the
spread
of
this
virus.
So
they
seem
to
be
at
a
provincial
level,
a
little
head
of
other
provinces
and
have
to
celebrate
dr.
E
B
Yeah
we've
been
watching
them
closely
and
they
are
trying
to
do
a
reasoned
and
proportionate
response
to
the
risk
and
that's
an
approach
that
I
would
like
to
make
as
well
and
hence
my
response
to
some
of
the
concerns
from
our
community
about
community
gardens
and
the
conservation
authority
grounds.
I
would
love
us
to
be
proportionate
and
imprudent
and
reasonable,
and
given
that
they've
had
the
same
approach,
they
found
that
those
community
gardens
aren't
a
risk
for
spread
and
that
people
are
being
reasonable.
B
E
That
and
I've
received
a
couple
of
emails
from
people.
Golfers
are
in
the
habit
bunch
pointing
out
that
even
New,
York
and
British
Columbia
and
other
places
in
fact
allow
golf.
Now
it
hasn't
been
on
our
radar
in
our
discussions.
I
know,
but
that
would
seem
to
me
perhaps
the
only
sport
that
might
lend
itself
to
social
distancing
and
allowing
people
to
to
partake
yeah.
B
I
would
agree
and
I'm
not
a
big
golfer
but
I
agree.
The
natural
game
lends
itself
to
physical,
distancing
and
I,
don't
believe
the
clubhouse
side
of
it
does,
but
certainly
game
lends
itself
to
physical
and
social
distancing.
I
would
hope
that
could
be
addressed
by
the
Premier
Inn
in
their
Civil
Protection
Act
and
by
May
12th
that
they
make
a
decision
to
enable
games
like
that
go
ahead.
B
We
we've
kept
our
community,
you
know
locked
down
for
a
significant
period
of
time
and
we
have
to
reward
some
of
the
sacrifices
people
have
made
both
socially
and
economically
and
enable
them
to
get
out
in
the
outdoors
get
some
physical
and
mental
health
and
well-being
back,
because
this
is
a
marathon.
This
is
not
going
to
be
a
sprint
and
we
have
to
have
a
balanced
approach
to
enable
improve
physical
and
mental
health
in
our
community.
Thank.
E
B
B
F
B
Initially,
I'll
be
blunt
and
thank
you
very
much
councillor
hill.
For
the
question
week
we
weren't
consulted
at
a
local
level,
I'm
sure
the
chief
medical
officer,
health
of
the
province
was
consulted
and
and
and
they
sought
some
external
consultation,
but
at
the
local
level
we
were
not.
This
was
rapid.
A
series
of
decisions
that
had
to
be
made
I
do
think
on
the
March
17th.
It
was
very
prudent
and
timely
to
put
that
emergency
measures.
B
Civil
protection
act
play
I
think
it
was
a
very
significant
component
to
limiting
the
spread
in
our
community,
and
it
was
a
bold
decision,
a
difficult
decision
to
make,
but
the
consultation
at
that
time
was
very
limited
and
we
haven't
been
at
a
local
public
health
level
consulted
regarding
opening
up
of
the
economy.
To
this
point.
Yet
I
do
know
that
the
chief
medical
officer
of
health
is
consulted
on
those
types
of
issues
and
that
we
have
channels
by
which
we
can
communicate
our
thoughts
through
to
the
chief
medical
officer
in
health.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
question
as
we
will
be
bringing
this
to
our
Board
of
Health,
our
Board
of
Health
meeting
is
tomorrow.
We
have
a
motion
going
forward
that
motion
that,
if
our
board
does
approve,
it
will
then
be
sent
directly
to
the
chief
medical
officer
of
Health
in
the
premier,
basically
with
our
recommendation
to
allow
the
gardens
to
go
through
as
an
essential
service
that
that
should
be
done
prudently
and
reasonably
and
that's
what
our
community
has
been
doing
all
along
and
it
will
support
local
food
and
local
supply
chains
and
I.
B
B
F
I
just
try
to
understand
this
in
terms
of
emotion
like
coming
from
City
Council.
What's
the
sort
of
springs,
I
guess
just
like
you
know,
let's
set
the
community
gardens
aside,
but
let's
say
we
decided.
We
wanted
to
open
up
playground
equipment
to
be
available
to
people
in
the
community,
so
we
made
a
motion
to
that
effect.
How
does
that
impact
on
your
decision-making
or
like?
Where
does
that
end
up?
You
know
being
considered
it?
Does
it
doesn't.
B
Any
any
motion
presented
to
us
from
our
municipal
funders
that
would
have
significant
weight
and
would
be
reviewed
by
our
teams.
We
have
expert
teams
in
each
area
of
policy,
whether
it
be
physical,
health,
mental
health,
social,
health
and
well-being.
So
we
would
review
it.
We
then
bring
it
back
to
our
board
if
our
board
would
endorse
it.
We
would
then
share
it
through
our
leadership
through
the
chief
medical
officer
of
health
and
now
the
chief
medical
officer,
health,
is
represented,
I
think
at
cabinet
for
important
decisions
and
does
have
an
influence.
B
F
B
G
Am
I
unneeded
yes,
okay,
dr.
Moreau
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
to
keep
our
community
safe.
That
certainly
hasn't
has
been
challenging.
I
need
a
haircut
like
many
of
my
colleagues.
I
I've
been
following
all
of
your
direction:
the
social
distancing
and
staying
indoors.
As
many
of
my
neighbors
are.
I
was
reading
an
article
in
the
Whig
standard
of
April
15th
and
that's
was
with
an
interview
you
had
with
Alan
Hale
and
it
was
titled.
G
So
I
like
your
idea
of
submitting
a
proposal
from
the
local
perspective
of
the
I
think's
in
Atlantic
tonight,
I
can
help
you
know,
building
that
support
a
core
group
amongst
your
professionals
in
your
professional
body
and
then
through
to
the
the
provincial
Minister
of
Health
and
me
I.
That
is
the
appropriate
level.
The
appropriate
mechanism
so
I'm
somewhat
concerned
about
the
aspect
of
of
a
City
Council,
putting
their
feet
again
into
provincial
matters.
G
B
So,
thank
you
very
much.
I
acknowledge
your
concerns
to
the
we
are
in
somewhat
of
a
hot
spot,
Toronto
Ottawa
Montreal,
and
about
a
buttress
against
the
New
York
state
border,
and
we've
been
fortunate
that
our
community
has
worked
so
well
together
to
limit
the
spread
of
this
infection
when
multiple
other
communities
around
us
have
higher
rates
of
infection,
and
that
is
truly
a
tribute
to
our
community.
B
The
the
interview
I
had
with
a
reporter
was
basically
about
the
concept
of.
How
can
we
try
to
get
to
a
new
normal
in
balance,
social
and
economic
effects
versus
health
effects?
And
we
will
have
to
learn
to
live
with
this
new
virus?
We
will
have
more
infection
coming
into
our
community
over
the
next
several
years.
The
our
goal
as
a
community.
It
has
to
be
limit
its
effects
and
I'm
sorry
to
have
to
say
that
it's
I
pinch
myself
when
I
wake
up.
Sometimes
in
the
morning
saying.
B
Oh,
my
yes,
we're
still
have
to
deal
with
Kovan,
it's
not
going
away
and
as
I
was
saying,
we
we
have
to
as
a
community
limited
and
we've
done
a
great
job
so
far
and
I
hope
we
continue
to
do
that
great
work
through
our
combined
efforts,
the
the
we
will
have
to
work
diligently.
If
any
rise
in
illness
occurs
in
our
community,
we
have
to
reconsider
and
perhaps
put
on
the
brakes
and
slow
the
economy
down
or
slow.
B
Some
of
the
measures
down
and
I
think
the
province
is
working
at
that
same
strategy,
how
to
open
in
a
phased,
prudent,
reasonable
way
to
limit
the
spread
of
infection
and,
if
we
see
arise,
we
reverse
so
over.
The
next
year-and-a-half
you'll
see
us
opening
and
closing
some
of
the
levers
as
necessary
to
protect
the
health
of
our
community
and
not
to
overwhelm
the
health
system
and
to
reduce
any
harms
associated
with
this
new
virus.
B
G
And
you
confirm
the
number
of:
can
you
confirm
the
number
of
online
health
workers,
paramedics,
police
officers,
Hospital
tenants
been
working
in
long-term
care
who
have
been
tested
and
whether
we've
got
a
full
gamut
of
testing
amongst
that
health
care
sector?
Because
from
our
presentation
tonight
it
looks
like
some
people
could
be
carrying
a
virus
realizing
14
days,
and
so
we
may
not
have
seen
the
actual
another
spike
or
jump.
We
don't
know
and
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainty
out
there.
G
B
You
can
get
that
information
off
our
website.
I'm.
Sorry
I
can't
glean
it
right
now,
but
we've
we've.
We've
got
a
very
high
testing
rate
for
our
province,
relative
to
others
at
around
I.
Think
twenty
four
twenty
five
hundred
tests
to
date,
with
only
2%
of
them
being
2.2
percent
of
them
being
positive,
so
very
low
risk
in
our
community
at
present
only
five
active
cases
in
two
hundred
thousand
roughly
people
in
our
community.
So
let's
put
it
in
perspective:
let's
have
a
reasoned
approach.
It's
a
very,
very
small
risk
in
our
community
at
present.
B
Could
there
be
a
symptomatic
carriage?
Yes,
there
could
be.
Am
I
need
to
think
that
it's
only
five.
Absolutely
there
could
be
absolute
more,
but
we've
got
a
robust
surveillance
system
in
place
where
anyone
admitted
to
our
hospitals
at
Lennox
and
Addington
community,
a
hospital
or
Kingston
Health
Sciences
will
also
get
tested,
and
we've
had
no
positive
tests
in
individuals
that
we
weren't
suspecting
kovat.
So
all
pneumonias
have
been
tested
that
get
admitted
to
the
hospital
and
have
been
negative.
B
Any
exacerbation
of
congestive,
heart
failure
or
lung
disease
has
been
tested
and
has
been
negative,
so
I
think
we've
got
a
decent
surveillance
system
that
shows
that
we've
got
a
low
risk
in
our
community
and
we
should
take
some
comfort
in
that.
At
present
we
have
only
had
14
healthcare
workers
in.
If
you
recall
there
was
a
bias
to
testing
health
care
workers
initially
because
we
didn't
want
spread
in
our
long-term
care
facilities
or
acute
care
facilities,
and
we
only
had
14
tests
positive
out
of
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
tests.
B
So
to
me
that
is
also
a
good
news
story
that
in
KF
Ln
a
in
our
bubble,
we
have
had
very
limited
spread.
What,
in
incident
cases
that
have
occurred
have
been
controlled
quickly
by
our
public
health
nurse
detectives
and
we've
limited
the
spread
in
the
community.
We
will
not
have
capacity
to
test
200,000
people
on
a
regular
basis.
That
is
not
going
to
happen
in
our
community.
B
G
Just
have
a
final
questions
last
comment,
and
that
is
aware
of
a
friend
of
mine
whose
spouse
works
in
and
they've
done.
A
really
good
job
and
I
just
want
to
notice
the
fact
that
he
actually
borrowed
a
camping
trailer
to
put
in
their
driveway,
so
that
when
this
person
is
finished,
shift,
they're
actually
returned
to
the
residence,
but
stay
in
the
trailer
and
self
isolated.
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
of
making
a
significant
amount
of
sacrifices
and
putting
themselves
in
harm's
way.
G
G
B
B
And
I
too,
am
a
member
of
the
department
of
emergency
medicine
at
Kingston,
General
Hospital
and
had
worked
there
for
many
years
and
to
visit
there
often
now
and
want
to
celebrate
the
work
that
all
of
our
frontline
workers
are
doing.
It's
remarkable
and
I'm
happy
to
see
them
in
personal
protective
equipment
now
at
least
and
hope.
The
supply
chain
is
maintained
because
they're
they're
doing
great
work
to
keep
our
community
healthy.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
just
before
I
go
to
the
to
the
next
speaker.
If
I
could
just
just
speak
to
councillors
for
a
minute
I
believe
some
of
you
have
been
using
the
the
raise
hand
function
in
the
meeting,
but
unfortunately,
just
with
the
setting
we
have
I
can't
see
that.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
speak,
if
you
can
just
do
it,
the
old-fashioned
way,
just
throw
your
hand
up
still
I
can
add
you
to
the
speaker's
list.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
awesome.
Okay,
thank
you.
H
Yeah
Thank
You,
mayor
Paterson
and
thank
you
dr.,
Moore
and
again
I
know
all
of
council
feels
that
way,
and
certainly
my
first
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
but
I.
Just
congratulations
on
the
tremendous
the
results
that
we're
seeing
here
and
we
all
celebrate
that
and
the
entire
team.
So
I
want
to
echo
what
everyone
else
has
said
as
well.
The
one
graph
that
you
showed
I
think
came
out
Sunday
on
the
timeline
of
where
we
are
at
KF
la
I,
I'm,
I'm
confused
where
you've
placed
us
on
that
timeline.
H
Unless,
unless
there's
a
lot
more
further
to
the
laughs,
you
you
you
and
we're
all
moving
at
the
same
time
continuum.
So
why?
Wouldn't
we
be
much
further
to
the
right,
even
though
we
have
flattened
the
curve?
Can
you
see
that
there
I
just
I,
think
I
might
be
misunderstanding?
We're
not
behind
other
people.
Are
we
is
this
not
on
our
website
yeah,
the
one
Sunday
I
think
that
came
out.
You
put
us
right
at
the
very
beginning
still
and
it
felt
discouraging
yeah.
B
So
that
was
done
I
think
three
to
four
weeks
ago,
when
we
just
put
it
on
the
website,
so
we
have
progressed
through
that
very
first
wave
and
luckily
we've
gotten
through
it.
When
we
had
repatriation,
snowbirds
coming
back
returning
travelers
all
that
high
risk.
We
were
so
fortunate
that
our
community
worked
so
well
together
to
limit
the
spread
of
this
infection.
Everyone
isolated
appropriately.
They
took
the
appropriate
precautions,
we
were
able
to
trace
down
and
test
others,
and
so
we've
gone
through.
B
B
Yes,
there
will
be
subsequent
waves,
it's
our
job
again
as
a
community
to
limit
its
spread
subsequently,
but
our
first
wave
we
have
worked
very
well
together
in
and
I,
have
to
also
acknowledge
the
sacrifices
our
community
has
made
economically
and
socially
I
know.
It's
been
a
very
difficult
time,
I'm,
sorry
that
it's
had
to
occur
and
acknowledge
that
the
sacrifices
everyone's
been
making,
but
it's
been
to
a
positive
effect
and
I'm
very
comforted
that
we
didn't
have
a
worse
effect
during
that
repatriation
phase.
B
Now
we're
dealing
with
a
low
level
in
our
community
it
the
virus
will
be
here,
it'll
always
be
a
risk,
but
you
have
our
assurance
that
our
public
health,
nurses
and
inspectors
will
work
diligently
to
try
to
limit
its
spread
and
the
hospital
systems
built
capacity
remarkably
in
a
very
short
timeframe.
So
again,
thank
you
for
mentioning
that
and
we'll
fix
that
on
the
website,
and
we
are
over
our
first
way
and
I
don't
want
to
mislead
our
community
acknowledge
we
will
have
more
cases.
B
I
Mayor
Paterson
and
thanks
for
the
presentation,
dr.
Moore,
the
slide
that
really
stuck
out
to
me
was
the
chain
of
protection.
That
was
a
new
term
for
me
and
seeing
who
is
all
included
in
that
and
how,
if
one
link
isn't
there,
it
could
be
a
problem.
I
think
that
was
very
effective.
So
thanks
for
giving
us
that
terminology
and
for
coordinating
and
making
sure
that
chain
of
protection
happens,
my
question
to
start
is
about
I.
Think
was
your
second
slide
around
the
number
of
cases
in
our
region.
I
B
I
B
Active
cases
isolating
being
phoned
every
single
day
by
public
health
nurses
having
their
symptoms
monitored.
If
they
have
a
change
in
their
symptoms,
they
go
back
to
where
Assessment
Center
get
their
blood
pressure,
their
heart
rate,
their
oxygen
saturation
checked
once
again
and
if
there's
any
concern,
we
send
them
directly
to
the
hospital
they
can
bypass
the
emergency
department.
We've
set
up
an
excellent
system
to
protect
our
frontline
workers
and
to
expedite
care
for
anyone
in
our
community.
I
You
could
talk
to
us
briefly
about
how
that
compares
to
other
areas
around
us
or
maybe
even
across
the
province
more
broadly,
at
a
per
capita
rate,
because
I
recognize
that
we're
not
as
big
as
Toronto
or
Ottawa.
So
it
makes
sense
that
we're
seeing
bigger
numbers
there.
But
my
quick
math
would
say
that
per
capita
were
even
punching
above
our
weight
for
a
lack
of
better
phrase.
So.
B
It's
still
difficult
to
get
data
from
across
the
province,
but
our
are
certainly
having
0
deaths
puts
us
in
a
rarity
across
the
province.
Only
the
two
long-term
care
outbreaks
of
one
individual
and
in
each
instance
puts
us
in
a
rarity.
The
number
of
people
that
require
to
be
hospitalized,
I
think
the
total
number
was
5
total,
so
that
is
is
is
absolutely
low.
Number.
The
total
number
of
positive
cases
for
our
population
again
is
a
very
low
number
relative
to
all
health
units
in
the
province,
even
on
a
per
capita
basis.
B
B
Do
see
the
benefit
of
having
some
nuanced
approach,
some
local
flexibility
in
our
response
so
and
it
can
work
both
ways
if
I
see
a
rise
in
illness
in
our
community
and-
and
you
know,
everyone's
concentrating
on
Toronto
Ottawa
London
I
will
want
us
to
slow
things
down
locally
and
potentially
close
some
businesses
or
limit
some
public
social
functioning
to
limit
local
spread.
So
I
think
every
community
should
be
able
to
have
some
nuanced
approach
to
this.
That
a
one
size
fits
all
for
all
of
Ontario
is
not
necessarily
appropriate.
B
I
do
think
that
the
measures
that
the
the
premier
put
in
play
were
absolutely
appropriate
at
the
time
and
that
we
should
stay
the
course
till
May
12th.
We
should
continue
to
moderate
but
then
be
given
some
local
flexibility
based
on
our
surveillance
are
at
the
Jimmy
ology
our
health
system
to
customize.
If
we
need
to
slow
down
or
or
if
we
can
take
off.
Some
of
the
measures
that
have
been
put
in
place,
I
think
that's
appropriate.
I
I
worked
in
emerge
during
SARS
where
and
I
was
in
Sudbury
and
then
in
Thunder
Bay.
B
All
hospitals
were
closed.
We
weren't
able
to
do
elective
surgeries.
We
weren't
able
to
see
patients
in
our
clinics
or
fracture
clinics
and,
as
a
result,
patients
suffered
they
weren't
able
to
come
to
hospital.
They
weren't
able
to
get
the
care
they
needed
and
once
the
once
the
control
was
lifted.
We
had
we
were
inundated
with
patients
that
needed
their
chronic
diseases,
ma
turd
and
put
back
in
better
control,
and
so
one-size-fit-all
didn't
work
for
me
and
our
hospital
system
for
SARS.
B
It
was
only
having
in
a
major
effect
in
the
Toronto
area,
hospitals
and
not
elsewhere,
but
we
had
a
blanket
rule
for
all
hospitals
in
Ontario
that
we
had
to
shut
and
I.
Think
having
been
on
the
committee
that
reviewed
SARS
with
dr.
Walker,
we
can
have
a
nuanced
and
local
approach
based
on
our
local
epidemiology
and
so
all
of
our
hospitals
don't
have
to
shut
down
and
stop
elective
surgeries
and
stop
procedures
and
patients.
B
I
So
I
think
you
answered
my
last
question
within
that
response,
but
just
to
be
incredibly
clear
if
counsel
were
to
suggest
the
province
but
based
on
what
we're,
seeing
and
based
on
our
consultation
with
yourself
and
your
incredible
team
at
public
health
that
a
regional
approach,
post,
mate,
May
12th
again,
just
when
that
assessment
is
up.
If
we
can
offer
that
support
to
you
in
a
letter
to
the
province.
Would
that
be
something
that
you're
comfortable
with
I'm.
B
Comfortable
with
it
and
I
certainly
would
bring
it
to
our
board
to
review
to
get
their
opinion
as
I
report
to
the
board,
which
has
municipal
leadership
on
it
across
our
region
and
I.
Think
our
health
system
partners
I,
know
that
there,
because
they've
got
150
beds
sitting
empty,
are
keen
to
provide
care
to
patients
in
our
community.
But
can't
do
so
just
yet
and
I
think
they'd
be
interested
in
in
reviewing
those
recommendations
as
well.
J
B
J
On
behalf
of
the
residents
of
Kingsport
Rideau
district
I've
been
hearing,
lots
of
Valerie's
everyone
is,
is
so
impressed
by
the
work
of
you
and
your
team,
and
your
abilities
I
know
that
you've
trained
for
this,
but
for
many
of
us
it's
just
incomprehensible
that
someone
would
be
put
in
a
position
like
this
and
deal
with
it
so
admirably.
So
thank
you
very
much
question.
I.
Just
have
one
question:
I
guess
regarding
testing,
so
the
expanded
testing
I
know
well
the
expanding
testing
and
for
other
systems.
J
Do
we
feel
that
the
testing
capacity
that
we
have
based
on
the
supply
chain
and
and
the
swabs
that
are
being
used
is
sufficient
to
deal
with
this
extended
approach,
but
I
mean
I
there.
Other
jurisdictions
are
doing
this.
Of
course,
it's
not
just
here
k,
FL
na,
but
I'm
curious,
also
how
how
this
is
presenting
if
people
are
being
at
home
so
much.
How
are
they?
Are
they
developing
symptoms
that
are
really
to
learn?
Allergies
and
looking
for
testing
or
what
are
you
seeing
that
relates
that
expanded
testing?
Well.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
question
and
thanks
for
serving
on
our
board
and
I'll
share
your
kind
words
with
all
of
our
staff
and
partners.
The
the
testing
criteria
has
expanded
and
the
reason
they
expanded.
The
criteria
beyond
just
fever,
and/or,
cough
and
or
shortness
of
breath,
was
to
be
more
inclusive
and
to
not
miss
cases,
because
there
was
concern
of
this
low
symptomatic
spread
of
the
virus,
and
so
we
were
enabled
in
the
last
several
weeks
to
be
able
to
offer
more
testing
and
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
spread
in
our
community.
B
So
we've
increased
our
testing
significantly
to
include
mild
sore
throat
or
or
laryngitis
or
runny
nose
and
you're
right.
You
know
we
were
looking
for
this
virus,
but
we
haven't
been
able
to
find
it
in
our
community.
We've
been
testing
eighty
people
a
day
and
at
the
hospital
they've
been
testing.
Another
30
40
and
our
long-term
care
facilities
have
been
testing
with
these
expanding
criteria,
so
I
don't
mind
being
more
inclusive.
B
Given
that
they've
told
us
they
have
increased
testing
capacity
and
it
has
enabled
us
to
be
able
to
understand
if
we
have
more
mild
cases
in
our
community.
But
we
haven't
found
any
despite
the
broaden
testing.
So
it
gives
us
all
some
reassurance
that
we're
not
missing
cases
and
we'll
continue
to
offer
the
testing
for
that
expanded
criteria.
Just
to
make
sure
we've
got
good
surveillance
and
we
have
the
right
information
to
inform
you,
as
as
leaders
in
our
community,
about
the
incidents
and
potential
impact
on
our
health
system.
K
Your
worship
and
thank
you
very
much
dr.
Moore
for
speaking
with
us
tonight.
We
can
only
imagine
how
busy
you've
been
over
the
last
six
weeks
and
we
really
appreciate
your
time
tonight.
I
just
have
a
question
about
reopening
the
conservation
areas,
so
they
were
closed
on
Easter
weekend
and
a
lot
of
people
want
them
reopens.
I
know
that
you've
met
with
the
conservation
area
about
reopening,
possibly
some
of
them
and
there's
four
of
us
on
council
that
sit
on
the
board
and
we're
gonna
be
talking
about
it
tomorrow,
night
at
the
board
meeting.
K
Knowing
now
what
we're
hearing
tonight
that
were
just
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
second
wave
I.
Just
wonder:
do
you
still
recommend
possibly
reopening
the
conservation
areas,
and
would
you
feel
better
just
opening
up
one
of
them
in
Kingston,
like
maybe
Lemoine
Point,
or
would
you
be
okay
with
opening
up
Lemoine,
Point
and
also
the
little
Cataraqui
conservation
area?
Well,.
B
Well,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
question.
I
know
it's
a
difficult
decision
as
a
board
of
the
CRC
eight
to
make
and
I
think
they
get
given
the
risk
that
they
thought
were
there
of
people
congregating
on
the
trails
and
potential
risk
of
transmission.
It
was
prudent
and
reasonable,
especially
with
Easter
heading
that
they
made
that
decision
so
I'm,
not
questioning
that
initial
decision.
B
B
Given
the
risk
at
Easter,
but
I
would
say,
if
you
wanted
my
opinion
immediately
right
now
in
public,
that
it's
it's,
it's
bear
to
open
them
up
again,
all
of
the
facilities
once
again
and-
and
we
can
in
partnership
with
you-
monitor
their
use,
we
can
enforce
if
social
groups
are
getting
together
at
those
at
those
areas
and
be
part
of
better
communication
with
the
community
about
how
we
expect
those
areas
to
be
used.
Okay,.
L
We're
shifting
through
you
once
again
dr.
Maura,
know,
what's
been
said
by
many
people,
but
thank
you,
your
team,
for
the
incredible
work
you
pandemic
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
it's
it's
telling
just
how
well
Kingston's
done,
but
would
you
say
that
it's
possible,
based
on
some
of
the
stats
we've
heard
earlier,
that
Kingston
obviously
we're
very
fortunate,
but
is
it
possible
we're
existing
in
somewhat
of
a
bubble
right
now
and
with
a
lessening
of
some
of
these
restrictions,
possibly
prematurely?
How?
How
likely
is
it
that
that
bubble
could
pop
I
mean?
L
We
know
that
there
are
likely
episodes
of
transmission
happening
out
there
where
people
are
asymptomatic,
they
don't
even
know
they
have
it,
and
basically
it's
going
from
person
to
person
and
we're
not
tracking
it,
especially
for
a
Supreme
Court
is
I.
Just
have
a
real
concern
that
if
we,
you
know
sort
of
don't
think
on
the
lessening
of
some
of
these
restrictions
that
we
could
basically
somewhat
of
the
epicenter
of
the
second
wave
for
this
readers.
L
So
I
do
understand,
basically,
that
you
know
everybody
doesn't
active
and
get
healthy
if
a
motion
was
coming
forward.
Just
in
support
of
state
the
trails
or
just
in
support
of
you
know
certain
things
with
the
motion.
That's
before
us
tonight,
you
feel
like
it's
very
broad
reaching.
Is
that
not
true.
A
L
It
okay,
so
with
the
public
health
board
tomorrow
night
going
to
be
voting
on
the
you
know,
basically
discussing
reopening
the
trails
and
the
lessening
basically
the
restrictions
in
community
gardens
and
being
able
to
send
that
information
through
the
province.
Is
it
it's
a
kind
of
fair
to
say
that
some
of
the
main
concerns
like
the
trails
and
the
community
gardens,
are
already
being
advocated
for
through
your
board,
awesome
food
as
of
tomorrow,
yeah.
B
Again,
I
don't
want
to
get
a
thank
you
very
much
for
your
question.
I,
don't
wanna
get
ahead
of
my
board.
I
do
think
our
board
will
review
these
issues
seriously,
we'll
debate
them
and
I
can't
prejudge
how
they're
going
to
react
to
close
the
community
gardens
and
the
CRC
a
opening
and
we'll
keep
you
appraised.
Any
motion
from
our
board.
We
do
keep
all
of
our
municipal
governments
appraised
and
share
them
with
you
in
terms
just
in
terms
of
your
concerns
on
asymptomatic
carriage
or
any
ongoing
infection
in
the
community.
B
A
symptomatic
spread
does
can
occur
in
a
small
proportion
of
individuals
and-
and
that
happens
in
influenza
as
well
as
other
viruses.
But
it's
not
the
mainstay
of
how
this
virus
spreads.
It
spreads
through
social
gatherings,
mainly
in
symptomatic,
who
shed
a
significant
amount
of
virus
when
they
get
that
fever
in
the
cough
and
that's
been
when
we
investigate
the
59
cases.
Today.
B
That's
how
it's
been
spreading
significantly
and
we
haven't
seen
any
signal
on
asymptomatic
spread
because
we're
watching
anyone
admitted
to
hospital
and
remembering
that
the
most
severe
people
do
have
to
eventually
get
to
the
hospital
to
require
oxygen
and
or
any
other
resources,
and
we've
been
working
diligently
with
the
coroner
system
and
monitoring
any
deaths
and
our
long-term
care
facilities
to
see
if
anyone
inadvertently
has
gotten
through
any
of
our
surveillance
system
and
those
tests
have
been
negative
as
well.
So
you
know
perhaps
I
haven't
been.
B
You
know
descriptive
enough
on
the
surveillance
that
we
have
in
place,
but
it
makes
me
sleep
better
at
night
knowing
that
we're
not
getting
any
significant
spread
from
those
low
symptomatic
individuals
in
our
community
to
date.
But
we
will
continue
to
be
vigilant,
we
will
continue
to
test
and
we
will
continue
to
to
try
to
ensure
our
community's
protected.
L
I
think
you
said
something
there,
both
you're
not
sure
how
the
votes
gonna
go
in,
and
you
are
we,
as
a
city
council
right
now
about
to
vote
on
a
motion
that
the
contents
of
which
has
not
even
been
endorsed
fully,
but
at
afn
a
health
Florida
sparks
community
gardens
and
opening
up
the
trails
is
that
accurate,
we're
about
to
vote
before
the
community
health
board
has
been
really
discussed.
This.
L
You
said
earlier:
is
there
31
or
32
different
public
health
regions
and
in
Ontario
34,
say,
okay,
so
so
with
the
3/4
of
those?
Do
you
see
a
concern
because
you
mentioned
that
we
could
be
at
the
start
of
the
second
wave,
and
if
history
serves
as
a
teacher,
the
second
wave
can
at
times
end
up
being
much
worse
and
they're,
not
really
sure
at
this
point,
whether
those
that
have
had
it
have
even
developed
an
open
immunity
to
it
to
not
get
it
again.
L
We
know
that
viruses
to
mutate,
also
beyond
that,
with
the
prevalence
being
so
low
in
our
area,
we
would
likely
have
greater
susceptibility
to
a
second
wave.
So
is
there
any
concern,
because
I
certainly
have
a
concern
if
34
different
regions
start
treating
the
response
34
different
ways,
rather
than
a
centrally
coordinated
response
with?
L
It
was
why,
in
my
opinion,
as
humble
as
it
may
be,
were
currently
where
we
are
is
because
we've
had
such
a
centrally
coordinated
response,
so
if
that
had
had
been
I
mean,
for
instance,
if
you
look
at
the
states
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
it's
being
managed
down
there,
some
successful
some,
not
so
successful.
So
if
we
start
loosening
those
restrictions
in
34,
different
areas
and
34
different
people
were
to
start
doing
34
different
things.
Could
that
not
just
create
that
admin
flow
and
and
create
a
much
more
worse
situation?
L
B
Mean
I
understand
your
concerns
and
there
has
to
be-
and
there
always
has
been
good
coordination
between
local
and
provincial,
so
all
of
our
local
public
health
agencies
meet
with
the
chief
medical
officer
of
health
through
teleconference
two
to
three
times
a
week.
We
share
our
surveillance
data
that
we
share
information
an
ongoing
basis.
Our
health
system
partners
meet
three
times
a
week,
met
up
and
share
health
system
capacity,
questions
and
issues.
We
meet
three
times
a
week
with
our
long-term
care
partners
or
corrections
partners.
B
So
we
are
all
coordinating
and
sharing
information
locally
and
provincially.
So
I
don't
want
you
to
think
that
it's
not
interconnected
and
that
local
public
health
doesn't
speak
back
to
the
province
and
the
province
to
us
that
occurs
on
a
regular
basis
and
the
province
will
have
ultimate
control
over
if
it
sees
the
entire
area
of
the
province.
Having
high
incident
cases,
then
they'll
have
to
put
the
brakes
on
for
all
of
the
province.
B
Knowing
that
patients
need
surgery,
they
need
care,
etc
at
the
main
limitation
right
now,
for
us
getting
back
to
a
normal
from
the
Health
System
perspective
is
just
personal
protective
equipment.
We
don't
have
enough
of
that
now.
So
oh
I
think
we've
been
asking
is
a
nuanced
approach.
Yes,
we'll
coordinate,
yes,
we'll
communicate
prevention
and
locally,
and
if
the
entire
province
needs
to
TB
have
the
infection
suppressed,
we
will
do
that
as
an
entire
province
or
as
an
Eastern
Ontario
region
or
as
a
local
public
health
at
Regent.
B
We
will
try
to
suppress
it,
but
we'll
absolutely
you're,
absolutely
right.
There
has
to
be
coordination
regionally
locally,
as
well
as
provincially
for
this
to
be
effective,
and
it
would
have
to
be
a
nuanced
conversation,
but
it
does
I
think
create
difficulties
when
we
have
very
limited
disease
transmission
in
our
area,
good
surveillance
and
200
empty
beds
at
the
hospital,
and
we
can't
do
anything
because
Toronto
and
Ottawa
have
high
incident
cases.
L
Thank
you
for
that.
I
just
have
one
follow-up
question,
so
it
sounds
there
based
on
what
you
said
that
there's
already
a
lot
of
coordination
and
a
lot
of
speaking
amongst
the
different
public
health
regions
and
chief
medical
officer,
Oh
Ontario.
So
with
that
being
said,
does
it
not
convolute
and
complicate
the
issue?
L
10
20,
30
or
40
municipalities
and
their
City
Council's
decide
to
wade
into
this
issue
when
we
already
have
a
proper
mechanism
to
do
that,
which
is
through
the
public
health
board
which
which
obviously
you're
meeting
tomorrow
night,
and
we
already
have
councilor
representation
on
that?
Is
it
not
possible
that
we're
gonna
convolute
the
issue
I
mean
we
may
perhaps
with
this
motion,
be
an
agreement
and
with
the
public
health
and
all
of
a
sudden?
L
Let's
say
hypothetically
that
hostas
and
then
any
municipalities
pick
up
on
this
and
we
just
start
kind
of
this
domino
effect.
Where
now
we
have
cities
that
are
trying
to
pull
a
different
way.
Could
this
not
kind
of
being
in
a
way
opening
in
Dora's
box
I
mean
it
sounds
like
it's
gonna
go
through
the
board.
It's
gonna
move
the
proper
channels
that
already
exist.
Do
we
really
want
to
go
down
this
path?
L
There's
many
other
municipalities
that
there
that
aren't,
Kingston,
that
don't
have
local
resources
and
that
don't
exist
in
sort
of
the
fortunate
wording
right
now.
So
are
we
kind
of
possibly
convoluting
this
and
which
could
lead
to
more
issues
later
or
basically
other
municipalities
asking
questions
or
putting
demands
under
public
call
for
and
maybe
aren't
the
linemen
work.
B
I
think
we're
in
a
very
good
position
and
that
regionally,
and
not
just
Kingston
from
that
lettings
nodding
but
regionally
we're
in
a
very
good
position
and
that
it
would
be
my
opinion
that
after
May
12th
that
we
can
have
a
nuanced
approach
and
that
we
should
follow
surveillance
and
epidemiology
and
evidence
on
how
we
try
to
create
a
new
norm.
You're
absolutely
right.
There
will
be
second
waves.
Third
waves,
fourth
waves,
fifth
waves
and
it's
my
job
through
partnerships
that
are
well
established
locally.
B
Great
collaborations
to
limit
the
spread
of
every
wave
and
I
will
keep
you
informed
of
that
risk.
I
will
tell
you
when
I
think
things
needs
to
be
slowed
down
and
things
need
to
be
closed,
so
we're
working
very
closely
with
Queen
st.
Lawrence
College
our
school
boards,
because
we
see
the
high
risk
areas
of
transmission
and-
and
we
will
continue
to
work
to
limit
spread,
reduce
the
risk
of
these
waves
and
I
will
be
transparent
and
accountable
to
you,
as
well
as
to
our
community.
M
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
dr.
moon
for
you
and
your
team
leading
us
through
this
pandemic.
I'll
just
share
a
little
story
with
you.
My
husband
went
to
merge
this
week
and
in
out
of
my
emerge
in
45
minutes
and
that
included
x-rays.
So
I
hear
what
you
say:
the
emergency
was
totally
empty
and
counselor
boom
just
raised
a
question
about
creating
other
issues
down
the
line.
B
I,
don't
and
I
will.
My
commitment
to
you
is
to
keep
you
informed
of
the
risk
in
our
community
through
whatever
ongoing
communication
you'd
like
and
if
I
see
the
risk
going
up.
I
will
inform
you
quickly
and
hopefully
effectively
and
we
will
put
in
the
measures
that
we
need
locally
to
limit
its
spread,
and
you
know
we're
anticipating
risks
as
well
as
I've
said
by
working
with
our
colleges
or
universities.
It's
our
hope
that
they'll
do
distance
learning
just
like
they
didn't
know
in
the
last
winter
session
that
they'll
do
that.
B
Come
the
fall
at
Queens
for
the
vast
majority
of
their
courses,
as
well
as
at
st.
Lawrence
College
to
decrease
the
risk
of
transmission
in
our
community.
They've
been
great
partners,
prudent
and
reasonable,
as
well
as
with
our
military
and
by
the
way
I'm.
Sorry,
your
husband
to
go
to
the
emergency
department,
I
hope
he's,
okay
and-
and
that
is
a
fantastic
tribute
to
our
merged
colleagues,
that
they
can
see
patients
so
effectively
and
I
was
speaking
to
our
director
of
emerge.
B
Yesterday
they
are
concerned
that
people
are
staying
at
home,
our
community's
been
so
responsive
and
so
reasonable.
But
if,
if
health
issues
are
building
up-
and
you
can't
see
your
primary
care
physician
and
it's
something
acute,
they
absolutely
want
the
community
to
know
their
door
is
open.
They
want
to
assess
patients,
they
will
screen
appropriately.
B
They've
got
the
precautions
in
place
if
any
patients
have
kovat
19
to
separate
them,
but
just
for
context,
there's
only
two
patients
in
the
entire
hospital
right
now,
with
Kovac
19
and
they're
isolated
appropriately,
so
the
risk
is
low
of
any
transmission
currently
in
the
community
and
in
the
hospital.
Please
use
the
emergency
department.
If
you
need
it,
they
are
great
and
will
continue
to
provide
services
required
for
a
community.
D
B
So
the
more
testing
you
do
so
no
test
is
perfect.
To
begin
with.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
questioning.
No
test
is
perfect.
The
more
tests
you
do
in
a
low
incidence
area
like
ours,
the
more
false
positives
you're
going
to
get,
which
is
just
an
effect
of
the
testing
that
is
done.
So
that
concerns
me.
B
If
we,
if
we
do
a
large
number
of
tests,
we
will
falsely
categorize
individuals
as
having
it
that
clinically
don't
have
it
just
because
we're
a
low
incidence
area
and-
and
that's
the
trouble
with
the
test
to
date
at
a
population
level
for
four
hundred
thousand
tests
we're
doing
relatively
well.
We
have
we
we
are
similar
to
where
South
Korea
was
in
terms
of
their
testing,
which
is
one
of
the
countries.
That's
been
heralded
as
having
a
high
testing
rate,
so
our
testing
rate
locally
is.
B
That
part
is
some
of
the
best,
even
though
our
hands
were
tied
on
whom
we
could
initially
test
and
limited
the
limited
symptoms
that
we
could
test
for
so
I
think
locally.
We've
done
well
and
that's
through
partnerships
with
the
hospital
primary
care
and
paramedics
that
have
been
able
to
do
that
testing
for
us
that
our
assessment
sites
we
next
would
like
to
do
what's
called
serologic
testing.
B
So
that's
where
you
take
a
sample
of
blood
and
you
would
look
for
the
body's
reaction
to
the
virus
called
antibodies
and
we
are
partnering
with
Queens
and
queens
researchers
to
do
cerró
prevalence
to
see
what
percentage
of
the
population
has
developed
antibodies.
Now,
that's
only
good
studies
to
do
if
the
the
antibody
test
is
a
good
test
and
none
have
been
approved
in
Canada
as
of
yet
because
they
need
to
meet
a
certain
standard.
So
that's
the
next
phase.
B
It's
just
not
laboratory
testing
by
putting
a
catheter
small
catheter
in
the
nose
and
checking
for
particles
of
the
virus,
but
actually
checking
immunity
and
you're
right.
We
need
a
phased
approach
to
that
understand
and
what
proportion
of
our
population
has
been
exposed
started
to
develop
immunity
and
follow
that,
because
that
will
be
a
key
indicator
of
when
we're
reaching
that
population
immunity
percentage,
which
is
roughly
around
70%
for
a
virus
like
coronavirus,
where
the
virus
will
naturally
slow
down
spreading
once
70
percent
of
us
have
immunity.
A
Okay,
I,
don't
see
any
other
hands
so
dr.
Moore.
Thank
you
again
very
much
for
your
time.
You've
been
on
the
hot
seat
now
from
in
an
hour
and
a
half,
so
I
think
that
we
should
let
you
go
I
hope
you
got
some
rest
this
evening
and
again
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
and
your
D
were
doing
really
well.
I.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
will
continue
on
in
our
agenda.
We
have
no
other
briefings.
Are
there
any
petitions
to
present
a
seeing
none?
We
do
have
one
motion
of
condolence:
that's
moved
by
myself
seconded
by
deputy
mayor
Neal,
that
the
sincere
condolences
of
Kingston
city
council
be
extended
to
the
families,
friends
and
colleagues
the
victims
of
this
weekend's
mass
shooting
in
Nova
Scotia.
A
N
G
He
worship
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
I
had
to
speak
with
with
staff
regarding
shifting
the
multi
residential
tax
property
class,
reducing
it
from
one
points,
eight
to
one
point:
seven
and
the
rationale
behind
that.
But
given
that
we
have
a
significant
impact
with
the
covin
19
I'm
wondering
what
can
be
done
to
support
our
small
businesses
with
respect
to
property
and
perhaps
there's
something
that
we
can
be
looking
for
to
helping
them
with
their
extreme
burden
of
taxation
of
especially
long
princess
tree.
And
it
can
be
done.
O
Thank
you
in
three
mister
mayor,
so
I
think
those
might
be
two
separate
questions
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
a
taxation
obviously
applies
to
all
commercial
businesses,
regardless
of
the
size.
So
it
apply
to
large.
You
know
large
chains,
for
example
commercial
chains,
so
I
think
what
you're
you're
asking
about
councillor
Chappelle
is
more
of
a
maybe
a
focus
approach
to
our
small
businesses
and
especially
looking
at
the
Wong's
downtown
that
are
being
impacted
significantly
by
the
koban
19.
O
So
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
started
to
have
some
conversations
about
what
kind
of
plan
could
we
look
at
and
put
together
to
help
support
those
businesses
that
will
be
part
of
a
future
report
that
we
are
going
to
bring
to
Council,
but
we
are
looking
at
some
best
practices.
Some
of
them
are
looking
at.
You
know
creating
different
programs
with
with
CIPS
and
looking
at
different
types
of
financial
incentives
and
supports,
so
those
are
all
items
that
we're
exploring
right
now
for
the
smaller
businesses
and
primarily
in
in
the
downtown
area.
A
A
I
Thank
You
mayor
Paterson
and
through
you
very
quickly
for
a
number
of
my
residents
who
have
emailed
and
received
responses,
but
for
those
who
are
tuning
in
and
don't
know,
I'm
CEO
hurdle.
Could
you
talk
briefly
about
805
Ridley
Street,
there's
been
a
lot
of
activity
in
my
district
around
providing
shelter
for
those
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
residents
are
just
generally
wondering
what's
happening
there.
How
long
will
be
there?
How
much
is
it
costing?
So
if
you
could
give
a
broad
overview,
that
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
O
O
We've
had
very
limited
activity
far
because,
as
you've
heard
earlier
from
dr.,
more,
our
region
hasn't
had
high
numbers,
so
we
are
currently
reviewing
options
in
terms
of
the
use
of
the
facility.
I
know
we
had
initially
some
police
presence,
which
is
no
longer
on
on
the
property.
We
have
a
lease
in
place
for
two
months
at
this
point,
which
I
believe
we
probably
have
about
a
month
left
in
terms
of
our
lease
and
in
terms
of
cost.
O
D
D
It
seems
like
it.
We've
we've
lost
or
we
have
a
deficit
of
$750,000
right
now
for
a
bit
more
than
half
a
march
in
April,
and
so
when
you
divide
through
you
get
an
average
of
about
$500,000
a
month,
and
it
seemed
to
me
that
if
you
project
that
up
from
May
to
December
and
I
realized
to
do
that,
you
have
to
hold
certain
variables
of
factors
constant,
that
you
actually
don't
know
everything
about,
such
as
rebates
from
the
provincial
government
for
funding
losses
and
things
like
sort.
D
So
that
would
come
to
about
another
3.5
million
or
altogether
projected
the
end
of
2020
of
4.25
million.
So,
given
that
the
city
usually
runs
a
slight
surplus
of
about
one
percent
like
between
three
to
five
million,
is
it
reasonable
to
project
that
a
deficit
lost
then
will
be
covered
by
the
city's
usual
annual
surplus
will
be
much
closer
to
zero
but
I'm?
Getting
at
is
we're
not
death
and
dying.
At
this
moment
we
still
have
a
manageable
deficit
in
regard
to
the
Kovach
emergency.
O
You
and
through
you,
mr.
mayor,
so
a
couple
of
things,
one
is
that
the
numbers
are
showing
obviously
from
Mitch
mid-march
until
the
end
of
April
include
some
initial
work
that
we
had
to
do
to
ramp
up
some
of
our
efforts
as
it
relates
to
respond
Kovach.
So
there
were
some
extra
expenditures
that
we
went
and
surley
usually
see
on
an
ongoing
basis,
but
I
have
to
say
that
there
are
some
measures
that
we
did
take
later
in
the
process
in
terms
of
reducing
some
of
our
expenditures
like
reducing
the
hours
of
our
part-time
staff.
O
O
We
do
usually
have
a
healthy
surplus.
I
agree
with
you,
councillor,
Murchison
and
I
would
say,
mostly
probably
between
you
know,
in
the
range
of
1.5
to
2
million
dollars
a
year.
Having
said
that,
I
do
want
to
raise
this
for,
for
counsels,
awareness
that
when
we
actually
prepared
our
budget,
we
prepared
it
based
on
our
expected
growth
assessment
for
the
year
and
at
the
time,
obviously,
we
were
seeing
a
lot
of
you
know.
O
Building
permits
coming
through
and
we
were
anticipating
a
lot
more
growth
and
what's
actually
happening
now
and
we'll
probably
continue
to
happen.
So
we
we
know
that
the
number
we
currently
have
in
the
budget
is
is
now
the
number
we're
gonna
see
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
we're
we're
running
some
updated
projections
for
assessment
growth.
D
J
If
you
worship
so
my
question,
it's
a
it's
a
line
item
I
apologize
if
it's
too
specific
I'm
happy
to
follow
up,
but
just
looking
at
the
housing
and
social
services,
direct
cost
estimates
at
three
hundred
and
eighty
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
then
and
then
there's
the
provincial
side.
So
clearly,
there's
like
sort
of
a
money,
there's
a
cost
and
then
a
refund
coming
in
if
it
looks
amiss
to.
But
if
you
could
extend
it
that'd
be
wonderful.
Thank
you.
O
You
and,
and
through
you,
mr.
mayor,
so
yes,
those
costs
are
related
primarily
to
expenditures
that
we've
incurred
as
it
relates
to
homelessness
services.
So
as
I
needed
earlier,
we
did
move
quite
quickly
to
actually
found
alternative
locations
for
shelters
where
people
could
actually
have
social
distancing
and
try
to
minimize
again
the
spread
of
the
the
risk
of
spreading
over
nineteen.
So
we
have
three
different
locations.
One
of
them
is
at
8:05
Ridley.
O
As
councillor
Kiley
mentioned,
then
we
have
one
in
the
East
End
and
also
lower
Union,
so
those
three
locations
as
well
as
you
know,
we
had
work
that
had
to
be
done
on
those
facilities
to
make
sure
that
they
were
up
to
code
and
could
be
utilized
for
shared
services.
So
there
was
definitely
some
work
that
was
done
there.
Those
expenditures
are
captured
in
that
number
and
that's
funded
by
the
provincial
funding
for
homelessness,
in
which
we
have
received
about
1.4
million
dollars
from
the
province
to
cover
those
costs.
O
G
Yes
thinking
you
worship
our
one
question
I'd
like
to
know
if
this
continues
to
prolong
over
a
period
of
time
and
I
noted
that
part-time
staff
are
the
fir'd
hires
and
are
we
going
to
be
looking
at
any
opportunity
to
reshape
reconfigure
some
of
our
services
based
on
how
we've
been
functioning
as
a
city
where
we
need
additional
support
or
where
we
can
have
some
changes
to
perhaps
offset
the
operating
costs
of
the
cities
or
anything?
Any
analysis
is
going
to
take
place.
O
You
and
through
you,
mr.
mayor
I,
can
assure
you
that
we
are
looking
at
at
all.
The
options
are
currently.
We
are
currently
making
some
assumptions
in
terms
of
reduced
services
or
closure
of
certain
facilities,
at
least
until
this
September
I'm
sorry,
and
we
are
looking
at
all
of
those
options
that
you've
described
and,
and
also
looking
at
even
beyond
that
timeframe.
What
does
operation
look
like
and
what
those
some
of
our
priorities
look
like
and
that's
something
else
that
we
will
be
reporting
back
to
to
Council
in
May.
P
P
I
Thank
you.
We
appreciate
it
and
then
my
second
question
is
more
broad
and
I've
asked
it
before
it's
around
public
participation
in
deciding
what
the
community
benefit
whatever
it's
calculated,
as
goes
towards.
I
didn't
see
in
the
report
and
maybe
I
missed
it
any
mention
of
say,
for
example,
participatory
community
decision-making
around
that.
So
could
you
talk
if
that's
included
or
not.
P
Second,
three
Mary
Patterson,
so
there
is
a
strategy,
that's
going
to
be
required
that
identifies
and
as
you've
indicated,
it
is
in
the
report
talking
about
what
the
priorities
would
be
for
the
community.
It
doesn't
get
into
the
level
of
detail
of
talking
from
a
prescriptive
standpoint
of
exactly
what
that
looks
like,
and
some
of
that
would
be
outlined
in
any
future
regulation
that
implements
the
legislation,
but
considering
this
is
a
process
that
will
be
enabled
under
the
Planning
Act.
Regardless
of
what
level
of
detail
comes
down
for
the
province,
we
would.
P
We
would
do
a
participatory
approach
that
would
take
into
consideration
public
engagement
through
the
process
similar
to
what
we
do
for
any
other
major
policy
planning
work
in
the
cities.
I
would
imagine
we
would
follow
the
same
process
regardless
of
what
comes
during
the
legislation
and
the
regulation
itself,
which
may
be
more
prescriptive.
We
just
don't
know
at
this
point
in
time.
Okay,.
K
Your
worship
and
threw
you
a
question
to
staff
about
the
community
benefit
guidelines
that
are
mentioned
on
page
six
and
on
page
nine
and
my
question
is:
will
those
guidelines
will
they
be
coming
forward
to
planning
committee
or
to
counsel
for
us
to
actually
vote
on,
or
did
we
do
that
many
years
ago?
I,
just
don't
recall
and
I
just
wondered
if
we
would
be
having
a
discussion
on
those
guidelines.
P
Thank
you
and
through
you,
so
those
guidelines
were
developed
within
the
last
couple
of
years
by
city
staff
so
that
we
had
more
detailed
policies
to
help
guide
the
implementation
of
community
benefits
discussions
and
the
community
beyond,
what's
already
articulated
in
our
official
plan.
So
that
document
has
been
sitting
in
a
draft
format
and
we've
been
waiting
to
see
the
outcome
of
the
community
benefits
conversation
as
part
of
the
legislative
changes
being
brought
in
by
the
current
provincial
government.
P
Before
we
came
forward
with
that
document,
knowing
that,
if
the
fundamental
system
by
which
the
benefits
are
determined
was
changed,
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
bringing
a
document
forward.
That
was
reflective
of
that.
So
that
document
we
did
do
some
public
consultation
on
it,
but
it
was
never
presented
to
to
Council
for
an
endorsement.
P
So
it
is
in
its
draft
format
right
now,
and
our
intention
would
be
once
we
have
clear
definite
direction
from
the
province
with
respect
to
the
new
approach
to
community
benefits
that
we
would
be
making
appropriate
modifications
and
then
bringing
a
revised
document
forward
for
councils
endorsement
at
that
time.
So
that
they're
consistent
with
one
another.
M
G
G
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
of
both
social
benefits
with
with
the
current
buildings
under
under
l,
pat
review
and,
and
it
just
seems,
there's
a
real
disconnect
between
the
actual
build
of
a
building
and
the
social
benefit
and
what
it
really
means
to
the
community
and
so
I
get
very
was
having
served
on
Planning
Committee
I
find
that
it's
a
it's
a
really
a
smoke
and
mirrors
approach.
That
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
very
clear,
pragmatic
understanding
of
what
exactly
the
community
benefit
is
to
the
community.
G
C
P
You
and
through
you,
so
when
the
government
sets
through
the
planning
I
typically
what
it
does
is
depending
on
what
we're
talking
about,
but
it
does
set
a
minimum
standard,
so
you're
gonna
be
looking
at
specifically
what
can
be
taken
as
a
community
benefit
at
a
high
level
and
broad
categories.
The
way
that
it's
to
be
calculated
in
the
way
that
it's
to
be
administered
at
a
high
level.
Cities
have
the
ability,
in
some
cases,
to
enhance,
beyond
whatever
the
minimum
standard
is,
for
example,
on
community
consultation
with
respect
to
planning
applications.
P
What
we
do
as
a
city
is
above
and
beyond,
what's
called
for
in
the
Planning
Act,
so
that's
a
specific
decision
that
the
city
of
Kingston
is
made
with
respect
to
our
commitment
to
public
engagement
as
it
relates
to
community
benefits.
Can
we
go
and
increase
the
percentage
value
associated
with
the
benefit
that
we're
taking?
No,
we
can't
we
have
to
follow
what
the
legislative
requirement
will
be
from
the
province.
P
We
can't
go
above
and
beyond
that,
but
can
we
look
at
setting
our
own
framework
for
public
consultation
and
making
sure
that
the
strategy
that
comes
out
of
the
community
process
is
one
that
the
community
embraces
and
feels
most
appropriately
articulates
our
priorities
of
what
we
want
to
see
community
benefits
to
be
spent
on
going
forward
as
part
of
any
type
of
development
approvals
process?
We
will
have
flexibility
through
the
process
to
be
able
to
be
specific,
with
creating
a
strategy
that
works
specifically
for
Kingston's
needs
and
Kingston's
priorities.
A
Okay,
seeing
no
other
questions
we'll
move
on
number
four
tender
and
contract
Awards,
subject
to
the
established
criteria:
predicative
Authority
for
the
month
of
February
2020,
an
umber
5,
2020
municipal
debt
limits;
okay,
we
have
no
information
or
reports
from
members
of
council
miscellany
business.
We
new
have
one
item
of
miscellaneous
business
that
the
following
members
of
council
be
appointed
to
serve
as
deputy
mayor
in
two-month
increments.
A
As
follows:
June
and
July
20
20
would
be
councilor
Hill
August
in
September,
20,
20
pounds
or
kneel
and
October
and
November
20
20
pound,
sir
Oscar
HOF
can
I
have
a
mover
and
a
seconder.
Please
moved
by
Councillor
Doherty
seconded
by
Councillor
Boehm,
all
those
in
favor
posed
and
that's
carried.
Okay.
C
A
Sorry,
yes,
there's
a
second,
oh
I'm,
sorry
on
the
on
the
main
agenda.
There's
a
second
item
miscellaneous
business
that
the
resignation
of
Steve
Fraser
from
Kingston
taxi
Commission
be
received.
With
regret,
can
I
have
a
mover,
please
moved
by
Deputy
Mary
Neil
seconded
by
Councillor
Oh
Sanok,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried.
Okay,
it
is
903.
We
have
some
work
ahead
of
us
with
the
new
motions.
So
what
I'm
going
to
propose
is
that
we
take
a
short
recess
and
then
we
reconvene
at
9:10
at
9:10.
We
will
reconvene.
N
A
Thank
you
very
much,
hey
thanks
everybody.
So
it
is
9:10,
so
we
will
reconvene.
So
we
will
now
move
to
new
motions.
So
new
motion
number
one
moved
by
Councillor
Kiley
seconded
by
deputy
mayor
Neel,
whereas
the
provincial
government,
under
the
emergency
measures
in
civic,
civic
Protection
Act,
has
the
ability
to
declare
an
emergency
in
light
of
serious
issues
arising
in
the
province
of
Ontario
and
take
corresponding
action
for
the
health
and
safety
of
residents.
A
Opening
an
operation
during
an
emergency
and
most
other
non-essential
services
state
curtailed
or
closed,
whereas
essential
services
are
the
foundation
of
Ontario's
way
of
life
socially
and
economically,
such
as
grocery
stores,
pharmacies,
public
transit,
major
infrastructure
development
and
many
healthcare
facilities,
and
whereas
provincial
orders
are
based
on
current
experiences
and
large
urban
centres,
which
may
not
reflect
the
health
risks
and
realities
of
smaller
regional
areas
such
as
Kingston,
Frontenac,
Lennox
and
Addington,
which
could
benefit
from
more
flexibility
based
on
local
public
health
advice.
To
allow
for
more
activities
such
as
and
including
community.
A
Gardening
and
other
outdoor
activities,
therefore
be
resolved.
The
Kingston
City
Council
advised
the
provincial
government
that
it
is
City
Council's
belief
in
consultation
with
koln,
a
public
health,
the
local
flexibility
to
provincial
orders
based
on
local
public
health
units
advice
because
hindered
in
order
to
properly
address
local
needs
and
provide
access
to
certain
activities,
including
community
gardens,
while
continuing
to
implement
physical,
distancing
and
other
guidelines
to
ensure
newly
reopened
community
activities
or
places
of
safety
and
health
for
residents.
A
And
then
a
copy
of
this
motion
before
honourable
Doug
Ford
Premier
of
Ontario,
the
Honorable
Steve
Clark
Minister
of
Municipal
Affairs
and
housing,
the
Honorable
Doug
Downey
Attorney
General
of
Ontario,
the
Honorable
Ernie
Hardiman
Minister
of
Agriculture
Food
Rural,
Affairs,
Arthur,
MVP
Kingston,
and
the
islands
and
Randy
Hillier
MVP
lanark
frog,
neck
Kingston,
councillor
Kylie.
You
have
the
floor.
I
I
It's
a
statement
that
we
say
quite
often
that
we're
all
in
this
together,
but
really
the
outpouring
of
people
saying
what
they
feel
and
putting
the
needs
of
the
community
first,
whether
they
were
for
this
motion
or
against
it
I
think,
is
very
commendable
and
it
fits
very
much
in
keeping
with
dr.
Moore
said.
I
We
have
a
lot
to
celebrate,
as
we
think
about
Coe
bid
19
in
our
community,
now
that
we
don't
become
lackadaisical
or
not,
that
we
don't
stay
diligent
in
ensuring
that
the
community
spread
stays
where
it's
at
and
flat
and
curve
stays
flat,
but
that
we
see
with
no
deaths
with
almost
all
of
our
cases
resolved
and
with
only
one
person
in
hospital.
Who
is
a
weak
case
if
we
can
use
that
term.
I
Based
on
what
the
medical
officer
of
Health
said,
we
do
have
a
lot
to
be
glad
for,
and
that's
the
context
in
which
this
motion
is
offered.
So
I
thought
I'd
spend
one
or
two
minutes
to
quickly
talk
about
the
intent.
Maybe
talk
briefly
about
the
history
and
I
think,
most
importantly,
and
where
I'll
start
is
what
this
motion
is
and
what
it
isn't.
I
So
what
this
motion
is
is
a
request
that
counsel,
in
consultation
with
public
health,
express
our
belief
that
a
regional
response
is
both
prudent,
reasonable
and
proportionate
to
what
we're
facing
and
that
we
request
that
to
our
provincial
partner,
the
government
of
Ontario.
Of
course,
municipalities
are
only
creatures
of
the
province
and
we
only
operate
under
statute,
that's
understood
and
all
that
we
do.
But
the
idea
is
building
off
dr.
Moore's
slide
where
there's
the
chain
of
protection.
I
Now
I
know
there
was
some
reporting
that
said
that
Kingston
could
be
the
first
community
to
lift
restrictions,
which
is
unfortunate
because
that's
not
a
mention
in
the
motion
at
all.
In
fact,
the
the
partnership
with
the
province,
the
legislation
which
guides
any
response
to
an
emergency
is
mentioned
explicitly,
as
is
the
fact
that
consultation
and
advice
from
public
health
is
the
only
thing
that
would
guide
this,
and
we've
received
that
guidance
today
from
dr.
more
that
our
numbers
are
very
low.
I
Of
course,
future
waves
could
come
and
we
have
to
be
on
guard
for
that.
But
one
of
the
ways
we
can
be
on
guard
for
that
is
ensuring
that
local
public
health
agencies
are
the
first
line
of
defense
in
messaging
to
the
community,
what's
appropriate
for
those
regions
to
do
or
not
do
based
on
the
spread
of
the
disease
in
their
community.
So
this
letter
is
about
working
with
our
provincial
partners.
I
This
letter
is
also
about
supporting
the
great
work
of
our
partners
in
public
health,
so
just
buttressing
what
they're
already
going
to
do
and
what
they're
going
to
do
through
their
channels.
Of
course
that's
fine,
but
this
is
just
our
way
of
showing
that
as
their
primary
funder,
we
support
what
they're
doing
so,
that's
a
bit
about
what
it
is.
What
it
is
not
is
very
simple:
it
is
not
a
carte
blanche
for
people
to
do
whatever
they
want.
It
does
not
mean
that
people
have
to
draw
physical
distancing
in
the
motion
itself.
I
It
says
that
directly
we
will
continue
with
physical
distancing.
We
will
look
to
public
health
to
determine
what
we
can
and
cannot
do.
So
it
doesn't
mean
you
can
get
together
with
your
friends
now
doesn't
mean
that
you
can
have
parties,
even
if,
as
the
motion
suggests
under
the
advice
of
dr.
more
it
means
you
can
go
to
conservation
authorities
or
get
in
to
gardening
in
the
essential
service
of
community
gardens.
You
have
to
do
so
within
the
parameters
set
out
by
public
health,
so
it
is
not
a
free-for-all.
I
It
is
not
what
images
we
see
on
CNN
with
Florida
or
states
protesting
the
the
ability
to
get
together.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
this.
This
is
about
working
in
partnership
with
public
health
and
our
provincial
partners
as
well,
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
underscore
in
these
opening
moments
is
that,
as
we
heard
again
from
dr.
I
H
I
Thank
you.
So
this
regional
approach,
based
on
what's
actually
happening
in
our
community,
encouraging
people
to
look
to
public
health
I
would
like
it
to
happen
here.
We
see
that
John
Tory,
the
Mayor
of
Toronto,
is
convening
mayors
and
the
GTHA
to
suggest
something
similar.
So
I
think
it
is
naturally
happening
and,
let's
just
add
our
voice
to
the
fact
that
it
should
happen
when
they
reassess
what
will
happen
on
May
12.
Thank
you.
F
Thanks
and
I
I
have
to
respectfully
disagree
with
my
colleague
on
this
one
I
I.
This
is
not
by
the
way
in
any
way
to
suggest
that
I'm
not
for
getting
gardens
or
opposed
to
a
local
nuance,
just
not
by
council
motion
I,
don't
think.
That's
the
way
to
go.
This
motion
income
motive,
a
coordinated
letter-writing
campaign
by
the
folks,
were
involved
in
community
gardens.
F
I,
if
they're
a
fundamental
and
essential
part
of
our
of
our
food
system,
I'm
sure
the
doctor
will
be
the
first
one
to
communicate
that
to
the
public
authorities
who
are
in
charge
of
making
the
decisions
about
what
constitutes
an
essential
business.
You
don't
have
no
doubt
that
this
has
been
a
topic
at
the
provincial
table.
Many
other
communities
throughout
Ontario
are
talking
about
it.
London,
which
has
400
community
gardens.
F
I,
read
an
article
very
similar
about
concerns
being
expressed
by
London
that
the
community
gardens
are
not
able
to
function,
hoping
that
that
would
change
on
March.
The
12th
I
think
accomplishing
this,
so
it
doesn't
require
the
support
of
a
motion
from
City
Council.
In
fact,
I
doubt
that
such
a
motion
would
hold
any
effect
real
effect
in
ledyba
for
authority,
given
the
public
health
through
the
Civil
Protection
Act,
but
this
motion
essentially
does
is
communicate
to
residents
to
are
willing
to
mount
a
letter-writing
campaign.
F
Council
will
consider
attempting
to
influence
our
public
authority
to
lobby
the
province
on
their
behalf.
Indeed,
and
I.
Think
most
councillors
would
agree
that
we
have
already
heard
from
folks
who
want
golf
courses
open.
You
want
boat,
launches,
open
who,
like
to
see
additional
trails
open,
are
anxious
to
be
made
available
to
seniors
playground,
equipment
to
be
accessible
again,
etc,
etc.
If
you
pass,
this
motion
will
be
raising
expectations
of
residents
for
Kingston.
F
Kingston
is
different,
that
our
exceptional
circumstance
makes
us
less
prone
to
cope
with
19
and
that
all
we
need
to
do
is
bring
enough.
Like-Minded
citizens
together
to
lobby
City
Council
to
lobby
talk
to
lure
the
lobby,
the
provincial
health
authorities
imagine
trying
to
respond
on
a
provincial
or
national
level
to
all
of
these
exceptional
communities
who
wish
to
be
differentiated
from
their
neighbours
because
Kingston,
surely
would
not
be
the
only
one.
F
This
is
not
the
way
that
we've
been
able
to
successfully
manage
this
crisis
so
far,
Canada
and
Ontario
have
been
exemplary
in
their
efforts
to
date
and
foremost
in
our
efforts
has
been
a
clear
message
of
agreement
that
we
are
in
this
together.
Dr.
Moore
mentioned
that
today's
presentation,
this
motion
throws
that
effort
and
understanding
of
total
community
response
under
the
bus
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
If
we
pass
this
motion,
we
will
surely
contribute
to
creating
a
climate
where
people
will
get
frustrated,
especially
with
their
various
governments,
for
not
a
seating
to
their
requests.
F
They'll
be
frustrated
with
a
healthcare
for
not
champion
a
champion,
those
requests
and
with
one
another,
because
one
activity
or
region
is
seemingly
singled
out
for
special
treatment
when
I
first
got
on
council
and
we
had
some
passionate
early
debates,
remember
clearly
councillor
ball
and
others
making
the
case
for
staying
in
our
own
lane.
Well,
this
is
certainly
a
case
in
my
estimation,
where
we
should
be
staying
in
our
own
land.
I
am
very
confident,
as
we
did
tonight,
our
ability
to
express
our
concerns
and
our
issues
to
dr.
Moore
and
as
appropriate.
F
He
will
convey
those
for
consideration
at
the
next
level
or
indeed
reject
them
if
they
are
at
cross-purposes
with
his
efforts
to
validate
the
by
our
to
eradicate
the
virus.
In
the
meantime,
we
should
continue
as
a
total
community.
We
acquired
the
ontario
and
canadian
team
to
do
our
part
that
all
of
Ontario
and
Canada
can
be
done
sooner
rather
than
later.
F
If
the
community
gardens
are
a
vital
part
of
the
food
chain,
we
should
respectfully
request
who
already
existing
channels,
but
they
were
convey
that
concern
to
the
next
level,
and
indeed
that's
exactly
what
Scott
Waseem
had
as
of
tomorrow,
that
we
don't
need
a
motion
to
do
that.
Impede
it's
already
being
done,
but
we
need
to
do
is
stay
the
course
and
mean
example
to
our
residents
to
do
the
same
thing.
I
hope
the
councillors
will
reject
this
motion.
H
Give
me
a
Patterson
aye
I
will
support
this
motion.
Actually
I
think
it's.
It
is
an
opportunity.
The
province
has
adjusted
with
the
advice
of
people
along
the
way,
they've
adjusted
the
essential
list,
and
so
this
is
not
special
treatment.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
the
people
to
speak
through
us
as
counselors,
and
so
to
me,
it's
it's
it's
not
it's.
It's
it's
an
acceptable
way
and
I
think
that
it's
something
that
we
we
just
heard
from
dr.
more
is
very,
very
agreeable.
H
We
can
gear
up
for
the
community
gardens
and
help
make
it
happen
and
make
a
big
difference
for
the
growing
season,
and
so
for
me,
that's
really
important
and
the
other
point
really
is
you
know
that
we
can
help.
You
know
with
the
trails
the
the
conservation
areas.
I
really
think
that
it's
it's
it's
part
of
our
health
and
it's
part
of
a
it's,
a
healthy
environment
for
us
to
work,
to
live
and
work
in,
walk
in
and
so
having
them
taken.
I
think
actually
and
I.
Think
dr.
H
Moore
agrees
and
he's
written
a
fabulous
letters
that
we're
all
able
to
read
and
I
think
that
we're
in
harmony
together
on
this
and
so
I'm
happy
to
support
this
and
be
a
voice
for
our
community.
I
do
recognize
that
you
know
for
those
that
spoke
against
it,
that
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
the
fears
and
there's
a
lot
of
work
being
done.
H
E
E
E
Clearly
there
are
mental
health
issues
that
have
been
identified.
There
are
other
issues
and
I
think
if
we
carefully
craft
this
and
not
us
as
a
council
but
Public
Health,
then
it
would
be
far
far
better.
I
I
will
agree
with
counselor
Kiley
I've
received
some
very,
very
impassioned
responses
against
this,
but
the
majority
of
responses
I've
received,
have
been
supportive
of
this
and
I
think
I
think
we
should
leave
it
up
to
our
public
health
professionals
to
make
those
decisions
and
that's
exactly
what
this
motion
calls
for.
E
E
Clearly,
that's
I,
guess
that's
the
way
you
sell
newspapers,
but
it's
not
the
way
to
properly
communicate
to
the
public.
All
I
need
all
I'd
like
to
ask
is:
please
read
the
wording
of
the
motion
because
it
clearly
stipulates
that
this
is
supportive
of
all
of
the
measures
and
it's
supportive
of
our
local
public
health
board
that
have
been
extremely
successful
in
this
endeavor.
So
I
I
would
just
suggest
that
we
focus
on
Public
Health,
which
is
all
that
this
motion
does
this?
Isn't
us
usurping
public
health?
E
This
is
us
endorsing
the
powers
of
Public
Health
and
recognizing
how
successful
it's
been.
I
ask
the
question
of
the
good
doctor
about
the
flattening
of
the
curve
in
British
Columbia.
It's
been
the
most
successful
province
in
doing
that
and
when
you
look
at
that,
what
have
they
done?
They
have
strict
protocol
for
for
farmers
markets
which
they
haven't
closed.
They
have
certain
participation.
They
have
strict
protocols
for
community
gardens
and
they've
allowed.
The
opening
of
public
space
with
again
strictly
enforced
protocols
for
pub
for
distancing
I
feel
more
at
risk.
E
D
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
the
this
I
think
we
have
to
concede
that
there's
been
considerable
public
apprehension
about
this
motion
and
perhaps
it's
a
little
general
and
broad,
given
what
it's
what's
intended
to
do
so
I
think
I'll,
say
awesome
to
say
later.
But
what
I
want
to
do
is
I
want
to
make
an
amendment
and
the
to
the
motion
and
that
his
the
clerk's
thought
that
if
they
can
mount
that
I'd
appreciate
it.
D
A
A
So
that
new
motion
1b
by
inserting
the
following
before
the
first
resolved
clause,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
Kingston
City
Council
confirms
its
strong
support
for
continued
adherence
to
the
fundamental
conditions
for
koban
19
emergency
practices
stay
at
home
when
possible
practice,
2-meter
physical,
distancing,
regular
hand
washing
and
it's
gatherings
to
five
people
or
less
and
continued
adherence
to
provincial
and
federal
government
and
public
health,
Cova
19
related
measures
and
then
the
rest
of
the
motion
continues.
Okay,
so
everyone
can
see
that
counsel.
Hutchison.
You
have
the
floor.
Yes,.
D
The
amendment
seeks
to
reassure
the
public
that
the
fundamental
public
health
provisions
and
protocols
will
remain
in
place
of
this
motion
is
passed
by
council
now.
The
motion,
perhaps
you
could
say
it,
assumes
that
the
federal
and
provincial
public
health
and
associated
legal
structures
remain
in
place.
It
just
doesn't
state
it.
So
this
this
amendment
seeks
to
point
out
that,
within
that
context
of
motion
seeks
to
have
the
province,
allow
basically
minor
amendments
to
the
provincial
standing
order
and
the
key
part
as
deemed
appropriate
by
public
health.
That's
in
and
so
I
just
think.
D
A
E
E
F
Thank
you,
your
worship,
so
I'm
gonna
support
the
amendment,
because
I
think
the
end
result
of
this
does
pass
with
this,
and
it
is
a
better
motion.
Although
I'm
not
gonna
support
it
the
but
effectively
what
it
say
now
is
just
keep
doing
what
you're
doing
you're
doing
a
great
job
keep
doing.
What
you're
doing
we
endorse
what
you're
doing
I
mean
great.
F
Well,
I,
don't
see
the
value
in
that
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
don't
really
see
how
this
provides
any
direction
or
a
particular
support
for
for
the
health
unit
that
is
different
than
what
we
what
we're
already
providing
them.
So
you
know
again,
it's
just
I
feel
like
we're
complicating
this
issue
unnecessarily,
and
we
are
very
confident
in
the
work
that
they've
been
doing.
This
motion,
as
amended,
says,
keep
doing
what
you're
doing
I
can
support
that
I.
Just
don't
think
it's
necessary.
Thank
you.
I
If
you
mayor
Paterson
through
you,
for
what
it's
worth
I,
would
consider
this
a
friendly
amendment
based
on
the
description
councillor
Hutchison.
He
essentially
said
what
the
original
motion
says
and
as
such
I
think
it
v
love.
So
you
might
as
well
support
this
and
then
get
on
to
deciding
about
the
larger
motion.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying
that
counter,
Hutchison
and
apologies
to
anyone
in
the
community
who
thought
that
physical
distance
thing
would
be
somehow
removed,
or
we
wouldn't
take
extreme
action
based
on
the
best
evidence
in
this
very,
very
troubling
situation.
A
D
So
hopefully,
briefly,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
are
at
an
emergency
and
we
have
to
be
responsible
and
imprudent,
as
dr.
Moore
repeatedly
said,
but
I
see
this
basically
as
businesses
council
business
as
normal.
These
kind
of
motions
urging
the
government
provincial
government,
sometimes
even
the
federal
government,
to
do
any
number
of
things
or
to
tell
them
that
what
they
you
are
council
and
usually
other
council
soon
afterwards,
if
we
happen
to
be
first,
the
you
know
what
what
direction
we
would
like
to
see.
D
So
people
should
not
become
too
apprehensive
about
this
motion
because
it's
a
request:
it's
not
an
action.
The
action
will
come
from
the
province
and
then
cascading
down
to
provincial
into
public
health
and
then
the
local
public,
health
and
so
I.
Don't
think
we
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
upsetting
any
Apple
carts
or
anything.
This
is
just
the
way
things
work
and
I've
been
seeing
the
whole
timeline
when
councils.
Sometimes
people
agree
some
people,
sometimes
they
don't.
Okay,
it's
just
way
it
goes.
So.
D
D
But
they
want
to
do
it
in
a
cautionary
in
crude
way,
and
so
this
motion
is
just
pointing
the
direction
of
where
a
minor
amendment
to
standing
order,
which
happens,
includes
a
community,
gardens
and
trails,
and
so
on
can
be
familiar.
Ated
made
better
and
made
life
made
a
bit
better
and
in
in
what
are
the
community
gardens
and
trails
are
low
incidents
incident
activities.
If
you
will,
there's
no
need
to
be,
you
know
giving
in
the
way
of
social
distancing
and
the
protocols,
incidentally,
from
the
community
garden
Association
carry
on
go
forward.
D
M
Thank
you
and
well
I'm,
going
to
support
this
motion
for
for
several
reasons.
First
of
all,
we
clearly
heard
from
Public
Health
from
dr.
Karen
Moore
today
that
he
is
supportive
of
this
motion.
He
has
no
concerns
about
it
and
in
fact
he
had
many
reasons.
Why
supporting
this
motion
is
a
good
idea,
and
we
have
seen
that
following
the
guidance
from
Public
Health
is
has
in
the
right
direction,
so
we'll
continue
listening
and
taking
guidance
from
public
health.
We
are
different
from
Tonto
Toronto.
We
have
more
space,
Toronto
has
a
much
denser
population.
M
We
have
geographical
differences.
It
just
makes
sense
that
some
areas
would
have
different
experiences
through
this
pandemic
and
and
I
also,
don't
believe
that
just
communicating
that
we
have
some
differences
and
that
perhaps
we
can
implement
some
different
strategies
that
doesn't
mean
we're
not
working
with
the
province.
I
think
the
province
is
giving
us
great
leadership
throughout
this,
and
we
really
appreciate
their
efforts
and
for
leading
us
also
in
the
right
direction.
M
So
I
think
one
does
not
supporting
this
motion
does
not
mean
that
way
that
we're
against
or
not
going
to
work
with
the
province.
It
doesn't
mean
that
at
all,
it's
clear
that
we're
going
to
continue
working
with
the
province,
but
it
would
be
great
if
we,
if
we
could
get
our
some
of
our
doctors
working
again,
their
muscles
are
empty.
M
Today,
community
gardens
they're,
not
just
about
finally
playing
around
in
a
garden
we've
heard
from
some
people
who
actually
depend
on
the
community
garden
for
healthy
food,
the
trails
and
getting
outs
out,
it's
good
for
our
mental
health,
and
we
need
to
have
a
responsible
approach
and
listening
to
public
health,
accepting
their
guidance
and
having
conversations
with
the
province
is
the
responsible
thing
to
do
so.
I,
definitely
support
this
motion
and
I
think
the
mover
and
seconder
for
bringing
it
forward.
J
O
Qn3,
mr.
mayor,
so
we
we
have
information
in
terms
of
what
some
other
communities
have
steps
as
far
as
safe
practices
in
terms
of
services
that
have
or
are
reopening
and,
of
course,
information
that
we
have.
All
of
that
would
be
vetted
through
Public
Health,
because
we
we
recognize
that
they
would
be
the
lead
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
whatever
service
was
to
be
provided
or
that
the
community
could
use
would
meet
their
guidelines.
As
far
as
health
and
safety
is
concerned,.
J
J
The
motion
is
looking
to
specifically
references
community
gardens
as
an
essential
service,
and
part
of
the
rationale
here
is
not
that
we
want
people
to
rush
into
the
gardens
as
a
place
to
congregate,
but
that
the
community
gardens
as
vagrants
as
a
resource
have
been
what's
come
to
light
in
this
situation
is
that
they
categorized
by
the
province
as
recreational
facilities
as
opposed
to
agricultural
facilities.
So.
H
J
Think
it's
not
the
service,
that's
provided.
It
goes
beyond
the
recreations
and
just
trying
to
shed
light
on
that
or
highlight
back
against
another
important
thing
that
sort
of
comes
up
in
this
discussion
is
about
what
public
health
is
going
to
act
anyway,
and
why
do
we
need
to
do
this
and
I
understand
that
and
I?
Certainly,
the
comments
and
questions
that
members
of
public
have
brought
forward
have
been
along
those
lines.
J
They
do
not
want
to
see
this
chain
of
command
disrupted
because
they
are
fearful
at
the
moment
and
I
think
we
all
need
to
understand
that
and
as
council
Hutchinson
has
mentioned,
we're
not
the
motion
isn't
attempting
to
do
that.
It's
not
attempting
to
say
we
know
better
than
the
province
and
we
should
do
things
completely
differently.
It's
an
attempt
to
say:
can
we
answer
Doherty
mentioned,
perhaps
consider
when
we
look
at
community
gardens
as
the
restrictions
on
community
gardens.
J
J
It
it's
with
the
community
gardens
as
an
example.
These
are
our
resources.
These
are
public
lands
is
public,
it's
a
public
good,
it's
public
resource
and
so
I
think
it
is
important
to
have
a
comment
from
from
Council
on
that
I'm.
Also,
a
member
board
halluf
I'll,
be
voting
on
this
on
something
similar
tomorrow,
relate
it
to
the
public
good
that
comes
from
food
security
and
community
gardens
so
I'm
wearing
it
tonight.
J
I'll
support
it
tomorrow,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
just
trying
to
clarify
what
what
we're
what
is
being
asked
here
and
and
what
our
role
is
as
municipal
representatives,
if
we
can
focus
on
the
fact
that
the
community
gardens
and
some
of
the
lands
that
our
public
lands
do
require,
perhaps
a
statement
from
us
that
that
suggests,
and
especially
when
it
comes
to
community
to
community
gardens
that
we
are
in
in
favor
of
a
certain
classification
for
those
for
the
use
of
that
land.
So
that's
fine
with
my
support
of
this
motion.
J
A
L
Thank
you.
We're
shipping
through
you,
so
first
off
I'm
as
ready
as
anyone
for
this
to
be
over,
so
I've
got
four
kids
at
home
with
cabin
fever
right
now
who
can
attest
to
that?
But
my
biggest
concern
is:
we
need
to
be
coordinated
in
our
approach
if
this
motion
was
just
in
regards
to
advocating
for
community
gardens
and
the
opening
of
the
CRC,
a
trails
I'd
be
more
inclined
to
support
it,
but,
as
those
things
are
already
being
championed
through
the
appropriate
channels
of
Public,
Health
emotion
would
be
unnecessary
as
I
believe.
L
Is
this
one
I
fully
support
community
gardens
I
have
in
my
in
my
district,
and
they
are
great
and
wonderful
things
to
have,
and
they
provide
a
great
resource
to
the
community
and
also
create
a
food
source.
However,
we
are
in
the
positive
position.
We
are
in
right
now,
due
in
part
to
the
leadership
of
the
province
and
the
sacrifices
of
many
of
our
frontline
health
workers.
To
create
this
positive
position.
L
For
us,
we
also
have
provincial
MVPs,
who
are
much
better
equipped
to
bring
these
concerns
forward,
and
people
imitating
for
the
lessening
of
restrictions
should
be
directed
to
the
appropriate
level
of
government
representatives,
and
we
need
to
stay
the
course
and
continue
to
follow
the
lead
on
the
province
in
this.
History
tells
us
that
the
pandemic
history
tells
us
that
a
pandemic
is
not
managed.
L
Well
at
a
regional
level,
for
example,
the
1918
Spanish
flu
in
Philadelphia
and
the
resultant
increase
in
cases
after
the
lessening
of
restrictions
and
in
scope
create
endemics
require
a
centralized
and
coordinated
approach.
The
United
States
also
provides
an
example
of
different
regions
managing
it
differently,
and
currently
they
have
the
highest
number
of
people
with
the
virus
in
the
world,
the
most
centrally
a
coordinated
approach.
L
There
are
also
lessons
about
lessening
restrictions
too
soon
in
the
negative
results
and
restrictions
of
the
virus
and
a
little
a
second
rave,
with
even
longer
restrictions,
deaths
and
costs,
which
nobody,
I
believe
wants
to
see.
An
article
I
have
in
front
of
me
right
now
that
I
just
found
this
evening
about
Japan's
his
assistant
wave
is
now
hitting
a
northern
area
of
Japan
Hokkaido.
L
L
The
problem
with
this
motion
to
me
is
that
it
is
too
broad
and
if
this
passed
and
was
to
influence
decision
makers
at
a
higher
level,
it
potentially
opens
the
Kingston
region
and
could
make
Kingston
appear
to
be
a
destination
with
fewer
restrictions
and
can
increase
people
traveling
here
to
access
things
that
may
be
restricted
elsewhere,
something
that
flies
in
the
face
of
the
emergency
regulations
and
I
understand.
That's
not
the
intent
of
the
emotion
I'm,
just
saying
that
with
what's
happened
in
the
media
and
the
interpretation
of
it
that
that
is
good.
L
How
it
could
be
perceived.
I
understand
that
councillor
Hutchison
is
correct,
that
those
still
once
the
cats
out
of
the
bag
inside
of
the
bag.
There's
a
lot
of
misinformation
about
this
motion
and-
and
it's
just
gonna
continue
with
rumors.
Now
at
this
point,
I
feel
like
our
chance
to
manage.
This
is
Laura
bond.
This
could
have
a
very
negative
effect
locally,
with
people
knowingly
importing
the
very
thing
we
were
trying
to
keep
out
over
nineteen
by
traveling
to
Kingston
thinking.
L
We
have
fewer
restrictions
unfortunate
up
until
now,
and
our
community
has
done
well
during
the
fight
and
worked
hard
to
achieve
the
results
we
have
if
hears
that
the
legacy
of
this
motion
will
be
to
open
Kingston
up
before
other
areas,
and
the
perception
will
be
that
it
will
cause
Kingston
to
be
the
regional
epicenter
of
the
second
of
a
possible
second
wave
of
this
virus
with
the
loosening
of
those
restrictions.
Tre.
That
does
not
come
to
pass
the
World
Health
Organization
less
than
six
days
ago.
L
Cautioned
against
loosening
restrictions
too
soon
and
mentioned
three
key
points.
There.
Officials
warned
against
nations
across
the
globe
of
lifting
government
lockdowns
and
advise
them
to
continue
to
have
them
to
contain
the
so
greater
open
nineteen
accelerates
very
fast.
It
decelerates
much
more
slowly.
In
other
words,
the
way
down
is
much
slower
than
the
way
up
who
director-general
said
at
a
press
conference
doctor
Mike
Ryan
executive
director,
whose
emergency
program
said
it
appears
not
all
people
who
recover
from
the
corona
virus
have
the
antibodies
to
fight
a
second
infection,
raising
questions
about
perceived
immunity.
L
Further
to
this,
our
neighbor
to
the
south
is
another
epicenter
of
the
pandemic,
and
they
are
not
far
from
us
at
all.
We
share
a
border
with
them.
Our
local
risk
may
be
a
little
currently
the
back
of
change
rapidly.
An
overwhelming
resources
quickly,
for
the
reasons
I
have
mentioned.
I
cannot
entertain
supporting
the
motion
as
it
is
now.
L
I
would
rather
err
on
the
side
of
caution
and
I
believe
we
owe
it
to
those
working
on
the
front
lines
of
this
fight,
but
it's
still
relatively
unknown
virus
to
vote
against
this
motion,
as
we
don't
know
when,
where
or
how
large
the
second
wave
will
be,
we
do
not
want
to
be
at
the
center
of
it,
but
the
ability
to
have
our
local
concerns
heard
through
the
proper
channels
of
the
Public
Health
Board,
and
they
are
already
advocating
our
local
concerns,
as
we
heard
from
dr.
more
this
evening.
L
This
is
a
convolute
the
issue
and
encourage
other
councils
and
other
areas
to
weigh
in
on
their
region,
asking
for
certain
specific
things:
further
increasing
the
workload
of
the
province
and
muddying
the
water,
so
to
speak
at
the
time
when
their
focus
needs
to
be
on
a
centralized
regional
approach.
Our
sorry
specialized
non
regional
approach
area
will
get
there,
but
it
needs
to
be
centrally
coordinated.
This
virus
is
bigger
than
the
Kingston
region,
baby.
G
You
for
you,
white
councillor,
Kiley,
commented
that
this
issues
garnered
a
lot
of
attention
and
responses
from
my
constituents
mind
you
not
as
much
as
the
noise
produced
from
the
Canada
raw
milk
factory
last
Thursday
and
Friday,
but
all
uh-oh
seriousness,
I
think
what
we
need
to
be
doing
is
working
in
lockstep
with
the
province.
We
heard
tonight
from
dr.
more
mark
17
premier
Ford
made
the
right
decision
he
about
the
lockdown,
and
we
also
heard
that
the
next
decision
is
coming
on.
G
May,
12th
and
I
think
that
it's
the
appropriate
time
to
look
forward
to
what
we
need
to
hear,
as
as
presidents
of
Kingston
moving
forward
in
a
productive
way,
I
received
a
number
of
emails
and
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
read
them
as
well.
You
know,
and
and
I
think
it's
really
interesting
to
see
the
dynamics
between
the
fears
and
and
the
people
are
really
struggling.
You
know
with
families
at
home
that
are
doing
the
best
they
can
as
well
as
seniors
who
are
concerned.
G
So
I'd
like
to
change
a
bit
of
a
different
tact
on
this,
and
you
know
we
heard
some
comments
and
references.
United
States
well,
the
United
States
has
can
very
different
from
Canada.
There
are
a
lot
of
inputs
and
insights
entering
our
minds
about
opening
economies
and
reducing
these
restrictions,
and
what
is
so
unique
about
Canada
is
that
the
nation
itself
has
a
great
deal
of
investments
in
each
one
of
us
as
individuals.
G
We
they
spend
a
lot
of
money
that
includes
various
levels
of
government
such
as
things
that
subsidized
a
post-secondary
education,
universal
health
care,
social
programs
benefits
such
as
maternity
leave,
parental
leave,
EW
love,
job
loss,
illness
workers,
compensation,
health
insurance
benefits,
Ontario,
Disability,
Support,
Program,
public
housing,
health
care
elder
care.
The
list
goes
on.
So
as
a
citizen,
we
are
a
very
costly
resident
of
the
city,
this
province
of
this
country,
and
so,
while
each
life
matters,
the
loss
of
life
anywhere
is
tragic.
G
We
have
a
case
here
in
Canada
that
each
life
is
also
a
significant
investment.
I
mean
we're
probably
buying
time,
and
kid
is
12
years
old
and
$250,000.
If
any
of
you
have
been
in
the
hospital,
you
can
your
50
60
70
$100,000
on
to
what
your
cost
does
is
an
individual
and
we
we
don't
look
at
it
that
way
in
everyday
speak.
But
this
is
really
what
the
challenge
is.
G
We
have
a
situation
where
we
can
be
credited
for
working
hard
together
as
a
community
to
ensure
that
the
kovat
cases
are
a
relatively
small
that
we
haven't
had
a
massive
outbreak
but
I
say
referenced
earlier
and
speaking
with
dr.
Moore,
we
are
on
a
401
corridor.
We
abut
the
United
States
through
waterway.
We
have
a
major
traffic
between
Toronto,
Montreal
and
Ottawa.
So
I
agree
with
some
of
the
comments
that
councillor
Boehm
has
made
that
we
could
become
the
new
site
Wow.
G
Everything
is
open
for
business
in
Kingston
and
what
we
do
this,
if
we
do
this
too
soon-
and
we
do
get
that
second
spike,
as
Cal
sorbonne,
rightly
reminded
us
that
this
climbs
so
quickly
that
if
this
happens-
and
we
decided
go
at
our
own
and
ask
for
special
dispensation
as
in
our
community,
because
we're
special
I
think
that
is
the
wrong
approach.
I
think
this
motion
would
have
been
much
better
directed
as
to
offering
support
to
our
our
Health
Authority
and
saying:
listen
you
bring
this
forward
to
the
province
that
should
be
the
channel.
G
G
Is
this
Express
desirable
compel
in
the
province
to
give
permission
at
the
local
level
and
on
the
other
hand,
we
have
an
opportunity,
as
a
province
in
a
nation
lineup
that
kovat
19
up
against
bars
and
give
a
one-act
of
a
body
check
and
and
basically
for
the
sake
of
some
extra
time
and
maybe
extra
months,
really
Drive,
escoba
19
out
of
our
district
and
out
of
our
area
and
suppress
that
growth
curve?
So
many
of
my
constituents,
as
I
said,
spoke
about
this,
and
some
of
them
have
some
are
well
eloquent.
G
G
This
individual
would
very
much
like
to
see
these
things
back
to
normal,
but
there's
a
runway
in
the
wrong
way
and
I
think
there
is
certainly
I
believe
we're
in
good
hands,
with
our
Department
of
Health
and
and
the
aspects
of
what
we
heard
tonight,
I'm
feeling
much
more
reassured
as
to
where
the
direction
of
our
city
is
going
and
I
I'm,
just
holding
us
a
because
to
be
very
cautious
that
once
we
open
this
Pandora's
boxes,
I
can't
recall
was
down
key
way.
I
think
it
lends
itself
to.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
A
E
A
Thank
you,
I
think.
The
first
thing
I'll
say
is
I
certainly
appreciate
the
discussion
around
the
around
the
zoom
screen
tonight.
This
is
definitely
an
issue
that
has
created
a
lot
of
interest
in
discussion
around
our
community.
Certainly,
there's
been
a
lot
of
feedback
on
the
motion.
I
think
some
some
misinformation
and
unfortunately
has
been
out
there
about
what
exactly
this
motion
was
about,
and
so
I
too
will
just
take
a
moment
to
clarify
clearly
that
the
motion
before
us
is
not
speaking
to
when
restrictions
would
be
lifted
in
Kingston.
A
It's
speaking
to
how
and
those
are,
those
are
two
very,
very
different
questions,
and
so
so,
when
I
did
put
in
some
communication
about
that
and
how
that
clarification,
I
got
some
really
interesting
feedback.
Just
today
on
social
media,
from
people
on
both
sides
and
basically
the
question
I
posed
is:
should
should
we
take
a
regional
approach
or
should
it
remain?
Should
decision-making
remain
at
the
provincial
level
and
so
really
good
feedback
and
an
input
on
on
both
sides
of
that?
That
really
is
the
issue
that
is
in
front
of
us
here.
A
With
with
this
motion,
let
me
let
me
if
I
can
provide
a
bit
of
context
to
this
discussion.
So,
as
many
of
you
know,
every
day,
the
premier
of
our
province
does
a
does
a
daily
briefing
and
some
media
availability.
Last
three
days,
he
has
been
asked
about
plans
to
reopen
the
the
province
provincially,
and
one
of
the
interesting
things
that
he
has
said
over
the
last
three
days
is
that
he
wants
to
hear
from
you
Nyssa
polities.
A
So
there's
been
a
comment
about
how
well
you
know
this
really,
we
should
stay
in
our
inner
lane
and
this
isn't
really
something
we
should
do,
but
the
Premier's
asking
for
our
opinion.
This
is
just
simply
responding
to
the
invitation
from
the
province
saying.
What
do
you
think
I
will
be
very
clear.
I
fully
have
supported
the
centralized
approach
that
has
happened
until
now.
A
It
was
very
clear
that
we
need
to
take
a
province-wide
approach
to
this,
to
lock
down
our
economy,
to
put
these
restrictions
in
place,
but
it's
far
less
clear
that
that's
necessarily
the
approach
that
should
be
taken
going
forward
and
I
think
that
dr.
Moore
actually
spoke
to
that
quite
eloquently.
I
know
that
there's
some
people
that
say
well,
you
know,
maybe
a
regional
approach
isn't
isn't
the
way
to
go,
but
I
would
just
like
to
remind
Council
that
we
are
a
little
over
two
hours
from
the
Quebec
border.
A
Guess
what
we're
back
is
doing
things
differently
if
Ontario
NBC
is
doing
things
differently
from
Ontario,
and
so
there's
already
a
regional
approach,
that's
happening.
So
the
question
is
just
okay.
Well,
to
what
extent
should
we
take
that
regional
approach
and
I
think
that
again,
I
think
the
doctrine
work
has
enunciated
some
good
reasons
and
rationale
why
that
approach
should
cuz?
A
A
You
know
the
thought
about
what
a
regional
approach
be
seen
as
selfish
or
what
have
you
seen
as
breaking
from
the
rest
of
the
province.
I
I.
Don't
believe
that
I
think
that
if
anything,
it's
about
helping,
you
know
what
I
don't
I,
don't
look
at
regions
in
DC
that
are
already
starting
to
lift
restrictions
and
I
I.
Don't
look
at
them
in
as
a
selfish,
but
I
actually
say
well.
What
can
we
learn
from
them?
A
So
what
are
they
doing
and
how
is
it
working
and
is
it
possible
that
perhaps
there's
a
way
that
we
could
leverage
the
fact
that
we've
been
quite
fortunate
to
date?
Could
that
be
that
by
allowing
for
regional
approach,
they
can
actually
provide
assistance
to
other
areas
of
the
province
by
letting
them
see
how
our
approach
has
been
handled,
so
we
can
learn
from
each
other.
A
So
we
have
have
that
that
variety
of
approach
so
I
think
that
for
all
those
reasons,
I'm
uncomfortable
supporting
this
motion,
the
only
other
piece
that
I
will
say
six
weeks
ago
when
this
all
started,
I
made
a
decision
that
I
was
going
to
listen
to
our
local
public
health
experts
that
what
they
recommended.
That
was
something
that
I
was
going
to
champion
because
I
am
NOT
a
doctor.
I
am
NOT
a
medical
expert,
but
I
do
believe
that
we
have
excellent
leadership
here
in
our
public
health,
and
so,
if
I
hear
from
dr.
A
Moore
that
he
believes
that
the
regional
approach
is
the
right
way
to
go
I'm
going
to
listen
to
the
experts
and
listen
to
the
experts.
All
the
way
over
these
last
number
of
weeks,
I
think
it's
important
to
continue
to
listen
to
the
experts
in
the
weeks
and
months
to
come.
So
for
that
reason,
I'm
happy
to
support
the
motion.
Thank
You,
deputy
mayor,
thank.
A
K
You,
your
worship,
there's
not
much
I
want
add,
but
I
was
going
to
support
this
motion
coming
into
tonight's
meeting
and
then
hearing
dr.
Moore
speak
tonight.
That
gave
me
a
lot
of
confidence
that
a
regional
approach
is
the
way
to
go,
and
just
like
dr.
Moore
said
and
then
councillor
Neill
said
you
know
the
150
beds
we
have
reserved
and
we've
only
had
five
patients
and
Kingston
that
have
used
those
beds.
So
far
you
know
maybe
I'm
doing
elective
surgeries.
K
That
would
just
be
good
for
the
healthcare
system
right
here
in
Kingston
and
with
dr.
Moore
when
he
was
saying
that
a
regional
approach,
you
know,
is
what
he'd
like
to
see
following
health
data
for
a
new
norm,
and
if
things
get
bad,
you
know
he
will
slow
things
down.
He
will
close
things
down
again.
He
will
tell
us
when
the
risk
is
too
high.
I
am
more
than
happy
to
follow.
You
know
his
lead
for
this
and
to
support
this
motion.
K
I
Thank
You
mayor
Paterson
I,
just
want
underscore
comments
that
you
made
actually
that
this
motion
has
always
been
about
public
health.
It's
always
been
about
public
health
because
we
trust
that
they
have
the
best
data
to
make
our
residents
safe
and
healthy,
and
that's
actually
directly
in
the
motion.
I
also
think
it's
very
important
to
quickly
comment
on
the
way
in
which
Public
Health
has
been
a
part
of
this
motion.
I
first
emailed
dr.
I
So
they
have
been
aware
of
this
and
in
conversation
about
this
from
the
beginning,
and
some
of
the
language
in
fact
has
developed
based
on
recommendations
that
they
made
so
I
think
that
we
have
had
a
very
generous
time
allocation
with
dr.
Moore
earlier
today,
and
the
fact
that
he
said
he
sees
no
problem
with
this
and
that,
as
many
of
you
have
just
said,
he
would
actually
support
a
regional
approach.
We
should
definitely
go
with
public
health.
I
We
should
trust
them
and
remember-
and
this
is
particularly
to
council,
Chappelle
and
councilor
bone
in
the
motion.
The
provincial
legislation
is
referenced
in
councilor
hill.
This
is
not
to
be
out
of
our
lane.
In
fact,
it
definitely
recognises
the
fact
that
Queens
Park
does
set
the
parameters
and
they
do
have
centralized
control
we're
asking
them
when
they
reassess
what
comes
next.
Could
they
do
so
in
a
way
that
recognizes
the
difference
across
the
not
across
the
country
across
the
province?
In
this
case?
That's
all
this
is
about
pointing
to
public
health.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Yes,
councillor,
McLaren
I
know
exactly
what
your
point
of
order
is
going
to
be
so
I'm
actually
going
to
anticipate
it.
So
we're
gonna
call
the
vote.
One
of
the
things
that
that
has
been
raised
is
how
do
we
do
recorded
votes
now
that
we're
not
voting
electronically,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
propose
is,
though,
that
we
will
call
a
vote
and
then
once
we've
called
the
vote,
then
what
I
will
do
is
I
will
ask
for
anybody
who
wishes
to
be
recorded
as
opposed.
A
So,
if
you
wish
to
be
recorded
opposed,
then
I
will
just
simply
just
note
your
name
and
then
that
way
that
will
be
carried
in
the
minutes.
I
think
that's,
probably
the
most
efficient
way
to
do
it.
Okay,
so
with
that,
then
we
will
call
the
vote
on
new
motion
number
one
as
amended.
All
those
in
favor
opposed.
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair,
so
the
motion
that
is
before
us
tonight
is
is
a
step
of
good
faith.
It's
a
step
of
partnership
with
the
county
and
certainly
a
step
to
recognize
the
amazing
work
that
fraud,
Knack
paramedic
services
is
continuing
to
provide
to
our
community,
especially
in
the
midst
of
the
Cova
19
pandemic.
A
Obviously,
we
are
all
aware
that
there
is
a
that
there
is
a
budget
dispute
currently
between
the
city
and
the
county,
and
that
is,
you
know,
a
difference
of
opinion
that
will
have
to
be
worked
out,
but
I
believe
that
this
is
the
time
to
to
put
politics
aside
and
to
to
show,
in
a
step
of
good
faith
that
we
want
to
work
together
on.
This
I
am
keenly
aware
of
just
what
a
difficult
decision
that
this
is
that
I
am
presenting
before
Council.
A
Of
course,
we
have
an
information
report
that
you've
already
seen
on
our
agenda.
That
is
detailed.
The
financial
challenges,
the
enormous
financial
challenges
that
we
are
already
facing
as
a
community
only
six
weeks
into
this
pandemic,
not
that
we
have
lost
nearly
four
million
dollars
in
revenue
and
while
we've
been
able
to
make
some
of
that
up
and
have
received
some
emergency
funding
from
the
province
that
we
are
already
looking
at
a
substantial
budget
deficit
and
then
moving
forward.
A
We're
gonna
have
to
manage
that
deficit,
which
effectively
means
asking
our
existing
city
departments
and
other
external
agencies
to
do
to
make
do
with
less,
and
so
here,
I
am
asking
council
to
consider
an
additional
contribution
to
paramedics
so
keenly
aware
of
that
context
and
I
certainly
respect
the
the
decision-making
that
needs
to
happen
around
this
table.
I
will
say
that
I
was
very
surprised
and
extremely
disappointed
of
the
letter
and
the
communication
that
has
come
from
the
County
tonight,
I'm
not
going
to
address
it.
A
I
continue
to
see
this
as
a
step
of
good
faith.
I
can't
control
what
the
reaction
would
be,
but
I
do
believe
that
this
is
the
right
thing.
But
I
also
believe
that
this
is
a
difficult
decision
for
us
and
when
we
look
at
the
financial
challenges
ahead
of
us,
there
are
some
tough
decisions
ahead
of
us,
and
so
this
is
perhaps
one
of
many
to
come.
So
with
that
I
think
I
will
leave
my
comments
there,
but
I
certainly
welcome
the
feedback,
discussion
and
debate
from
Council
on
this
issue.
Thank
you.
L
Begin
mayor
in
through
so
yeah
just
to
follow
up
on
the
Mainers
words.
This
is
something
where
I've
got.
I've
got
a
friend
of
mine
who's,
a
paramedic
and
they're
out
there
every
day,
literally
on
the
front
lines
of
this
procedures
have
changed
enormous
ly,
just
their
time
to
respond
to
a
call.
It
is
delayed
because
of
the
procedures
that
they
have
to
do
just
think.
The
vehicles,
if
all
the
PBE,
the
enhanced
PPE
firefighters
as
well
like
it's,
it's
it's
not
business
as
usual.
L
The
the
climate
out
there
right
now
is
is
a
totally
different
world.
People
are
having
to
to
slowly
response
just
to
make
sure
that
the
whole
area
is
and
it's
the
costs
are
rising
and
everything.
So
this
is
something
where
I'm
gonna
support
this
and
as
frustrating
as
some
of
this
process
has
been,
in
particular
with
the
county
and
and
I
think
the
main
thing
isn't
that
it
not
with
the
county.
L
In
particular
it's
about
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
input
necessarily
into
where
the
dollars
are
spent
or
how
they're
spent
the
problem
is.
It's
basically
just
here's
the
amount
of
money
we
need
and
you
as
the
city
provided
and
it's
that
arrangement
that
really
frustrates
I.
Think
myself
and.
L
L
They're
still
happening
so
take
a
stressed
system
and
now
add
a
worldwide
pandemic
to
it,
and-
and
you
really
see
the
strengths
and
weaknesses
of
your
systems,
this
240,000
there
is
really
just
to
shore
up
our
defenses.
It's
to
provide
support
to
people
that
are
on
the
frontline
every
day.
Fighting
this
battle
for
us
and
fighting
all
the
other
health
emergencies
with
that
in
mind,
I
totally
agree
with
mayor
Paterson.
That
now
is
not
the
time
to
sort
of
have
the
battle
with
me
over.
L
This
particular
move
for
me
now's
the
time
to
show
our
solidarity
to
the
paramedics
that
are
out
there
every
day,
famous
battle
for
us
and
keeping
us
safe,
and
we
can
have
the
other
discussion
when
things
calm
down
a
little
bit.
So
this
this
this
in
my
mind,
is
it's
it's
something
that
I
truly
hope
everybody
can
support.
It's
that
money
will
go
to
a
good
use.
It
will
go
to
two
people
who
are
gay,
I,
think
for
us,
and
quite
literally,
on
the
front
line.
Saving
hope
this
can
be
Sabine.
E
G
Thank
you
all
right,
Debbie,
Mary,
Neil
I,
also
I,
know
that
we
don't
want
to
discuss
that
letter
that
came
in
from
County
a
fraud
nak,
but
I
did
find
some
of
his
content
troubling
and
suggest
that
we
do
address
it
sooner
than
later,
because
if
we
are
creating
a
cash-strapped
situation
and
that
impacts
our
seniors
in
fair
amount
at
home,
I
do
think
we
need
to
address
it
sooner.
I
just
like
to
echo
councillor
bones
comments.
C
H
Thank
you,
David
Muir,
you
know,
yeah
I,
just
I
do
want
to
make
sure
I
have
my
voice
in
here,
too.
I
do
serve
on
the
rule.
Actor
urban,
Alliance
and
I
really
appreciate
our
mayor's
voice
on
this
and
councilor
bowl
we're
all
three
of
us
are
on
there.
I
am
a
little
bit
in
confusion
over
over
it
all,
but
I
do
I'm
pleased
that
we
have
got
this
moving.
H
I
understand
the
difficulty
of
my
cause
and
yet
I'm
I'm
keenly
aware
that
we
need
to
provide
that
support
for
our
paramedics
and
that
this
is
a
measure
of
good
faith
on
the
city
and
that
there
will
be
difficult
conversations
to
have
in
the
future
that
are
sooner
than
later.
I
hope
that
we
can
resolve
this,
but
I
did
find
that
letter
very
disappointing
as
well
that
I'm
hopeful
that
this
will
be
be
the
beginning
of
the
end
of
the
of
the
of
the
dispute.
I
guess,
but
at
least
now
we
can
provide
the
support.
H
F
You
I
just
wanted
echo
what
councillor
ball
under
no
circumstances
would
I
countenance
and
I.
Don't
think
anybody
on
council
would
any
of
our
frontline
workers
going
without
what
they
need
in
this
particular
service.
I
would
echo
what
council
Chappell
said.
If,
if
this
juncture,
you
know
the
support
and
purse
after
the
street
corner
in
order
to
assist
folks
at
Fairmont
home,
do
you
see
what
they
have
to
if
that
comes
back,
we'll
have
to
take
a
look
at
that,
but
I
also
am
gonna
address
this
letter
that
was
put
out
today.
F
You
know,
I
I,
think
the
resolve
of
this
council
to
really
see
this
through
to
the
end
into
a
much
more
satisfactory
and
much
more
transparent
way
of
doing
budgeting
in
cooperation
with
the
city
is
something
that
we're
going
to
speak
once
this
crisis
is
over,
but
in
the
meantime
our
first
priority
has
to
be
all
those
frontline
workers
who
this
money
will
go
to
assist.
Augment
support.
This
motion.
J
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
so
I'm
gonna,
sort
of
pause,
I,
don't
want
to
gonna
go
into
a
to
an
antiporter
territory
here,
but
the
the
letter
has
been
referenced,
I
think
I'm
first
I'm
going
to
just
voice
my
support
for
the
motion,
given
the
circumstances
more
simply
to
do
with
the
fact
that
the
structures
of
government
are
not
functioning
at
the
way,
the
way
that
they
would
normally
there's
a
budget
shortfall
and
our
and
our
paramedics
need
that
money.
J
So
so,
yes,
I
support
this
motion,
but
I
will
say
being
as
sort
of
general
as
possible
that
related
to
what
else
is
going
on
here
about
long
term
care
costs
when
I
when
I
teach.
My
health
policy
course
about.
The
first
thing
we
focus
on
is
the
Constitution
and
students
have
are
really
sort
of
taken
aback
by
this.
Why
they
need
to
understand
the
Constitution,
and
we
talked
about
it
on
this
table
in
some
way.
J
Almost
every
meeting
when
we
talk
about
separation
of
when
it
comes
to
long-term
care
and
healthcare
costs
that
are
being
born
at
the
municipal
level,
the
separation
has
to
do
with
the
fact.
The
case
of
long
term
care
there
are
health
related
costs.
Those
are
very
clear:
they're
build
they're,
billable
health
related
things
that
we
pay
for
through
our
provincial
healthcare
system,
and
then
there
are
other
costs
that
relate
to
operations,
facilities,
etc.
J
So
we
do
need
I
think,
as
others
have
mentioned,
to
be
able
to
see
what
those
costs
are
in
the
future
to
be
able
to
determine
that
we
are
doing
our
due
diligence
and
doing
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
municipal
body
to
ensure
that
other
costs
are
in
line
with
with
the
capacity
to
pay.
So
I
did
want
to
just
mention
that,
but
I
do
support
the
move
towards
providing
this
support
for
frontline
workers.
J
E
E
Thank
you
very
much
when
this
was
first
brought
to
my
attention.
I
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
the
mayor,
and
my
main
concern
was
first
of
all,
I
totally
support
the
intent
of
this
because
clearly
we're
in
an
emergency
situation
and
just
like
the
Toronto
Mayor
Tory
has
spoken
about
the
fiscal
impacts
of
this
emergency
and
suggesting
that
we
need
to
look
for
upper
tier
governments
which
have
a
better
deeper
pockets
and
a
better
taxation
system
need
to
consider
those
additional
costs
that
are
being
borne
by
municipalities.
And
this
doesn't
happen
every
day.
E
But
I
totally
agree
with
with
me
or
Tory
on
this
and
I.
Just
wanted
to
confirm
and
I
did
through
the
mayor
that
this
will
not
adjust
the
baseline
funding
that
we
put
towards
those
services
by
the
by
that
that
we
help
support
in
the
county.
But
this
is
clearly
an
emergency
and
we
need
to
support
our
frontline
workers,
and
our
frontline
workers
in
this
case
are
the
paramedics
who
are
doing
a
stellar
job
in.
E
C
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
deputy
mayor
I
think.
The
only
other
thing
that
I
will
say
is
certainly
I
want
to
recognize
the
frontline
workers
at
Fairmont
home
and
at
Rideau
crest,
on
the
the
two
long-term
care
homes
that
are
municipal
run,
one
by
the
city
and
one
by
the
county.
The
the
province
has
has
announced
additional
funding
for
long-term
care
homes,
I
think
in
response,
of
course,
to
the
challenges
that
have
come
there
and
so
there's
there's
a
lot
of
funding.
A
That's
been
that
has
been
allocated
that
has
been
announced
since
so
we're
still
waiting
to
hear
more
about
what
those
details
are,
but
certainly
I,
think
those
extra
supports
for
our
long-term
care
homes
in
the
region,
I
think
will
be,
will
be
most
welcome,
and
then
we
will
be
able
to
to
have
the
discussion
at
the
right
time
with
the
county
to
be
able
to
mediate
and
to
arbitrate
the
the
current
budget
dispute
again
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Council
for
for
the
discussion
on
this
motion
tonight.
Thank
you.