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From YouTube: Kingston, Ontario - City Council - September 1, 2020
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City Council meeting from September 1, 2020. For full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3jD10av
A
Okay,
good
evening,
everybody,
we
will
call
this
meeting
to
order
sego
ani
boujou
endio
que
as
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
kingston.
I
offer
these
words
in
the
spirit
of
this
gathering.
Let
us
bring
our
good
minds
and
hearts
together
as
one
to
honor
and
celebrate
these
traditional
lands
as
a
gathering
place
of
the
original
peoples
and
their
ancestors
who
were
entrusted
to
care
for
mother
earth
since
time
immemorial.
A
A
C
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Seeing
no
other
declarations,
we
will
continue
on.
We
have
no
presentations
this
evening.
We
do
have
one
delegation
jill,
charettes,
executive
director,
hiv
aids.
Regional
services
will
appear
before
council
to
speak
to
clause
3
of
report
number
66
received
from
the
cao
with
respect
to
the
social
services
potential
funding
allocation.
D
Thank
you,
mayor,
patterson
council,
for
allowing
me
to
provide
you
with
an
update
on
the
activities
of
the
integrated
care
hub,
which
is
currently
located
at
artillery
park
after
10
days
of
soft
opening.
While
we
assembled
the
fantastic
team
that
we
have
of
staff
and
community
partners,
the
care
hub
began
providing
service
around
the
clock
on
july
31st.
D
Since
then,
the
hub
has
averaged
250
visits
each
day
over
100
meals
have
been
served
daily
thanks
to
our
partnership
with
loving
hands,
lion,
hearts
and
other
community
partners
as
of
august
28th.
So,
just
a
few
days
ago,
103
unique
individuals
have
accessed
the
rest
zone
and
we've
had
an
occupancy
of
536
room
nights.
D
In
fact,
for
the
past
12
consecutive
days,
the
rest
zone
has
been
at
capacity
now.
Each
of
these
individuals
have
been
have
completed,
intakes
and
now
registered
in
the
housing
database,
and
while
we
don't
have
the
stats
available
to
us
right
now,
we
know
that
a
number
of
individuals
have
either
been
successfully
housed
or
are
currently
in
the
process
of
being
housed.
D
Now,
a
little
over
a
week
ago,
the
consumption
and
treatment
service
finally
received
the
approval
from
health
canada
to
them
to
move
to
the
hub
site.
In
that
first
week
there
were
132
visits
to
the
cts.
Now
this
is
compared
to
164
in
the
entire
month
of
july,
and
yesterday
there
were
33
visits,
which
is
the
busiest
day
since
the
cts
opened
in
kingston.
D
12
new
individuals
have
access
to
cts
who
have
never
been
there
before,
and
many
returned
to
have
lapsed
because
of
its
proximity
to
other
services
in
the
hub,
so
where
the
hub
model
really
shines
is
how
it
brings
together
community
partners
on
one
site
to
bring
services
to
the
people
we
serve.
You
might
recall,
when
I
presented
in
june,
the
hub
model
functions
on
five
core
pillars,
the
first
of
which
is
stabilization.
D
D
Since
the
hub
began
operations,
dozens
of
referrals
have
been
made
to
mental
health
services.
The
great
news
is
that
almost
100
percent
of
the
individuals
who
have
been
referred
have
actually
shown
up
to
meetings
with
their
case
workers
or
with
the
physician
and
clients
who
have
been
successfully
referred
to.
Psychiatry
have
been
stabilized
on
medication
again.
D
I
should
say,
while
working
with
the
nurse
around
medication
adherence,
it
was
determined
that,
due
to
his
level
of
literacy,
providing
blister
packs
for
medication
as
opposed
to
a
bottle
would
be
more
helpful.
So
the
nurse
helped
to
facilitate
that
and,
as
a
result,
this
individual
is
now
adhering
to
their
medication,
has
a
support
worker
in
place
and
has
successfully
accessed
housing.
D
So
our
ability
to
connect
with
supports
whether
it's
primary
care
at
street
health,
amhs,
home-based
housing,
providence
care
or
the
concurrent
disorders
program
at
khsc
is
incredible
and
clients.
Client
maintenance
has
improved
dramatically
because
we
can
actually
find
the
people
that
we're
trying
to
serve
versus
in
the
past,
where
we
would
have
had
to
discharge
people
for
them
not
showing
up
to
appointments.
D
So
a
small
number
of
people
have
not
been
successfully
able
to
access
the
services
at
the
hub
due
to
the
complexity
of
their
needs
related
to
either
mental
health
or
brain
injury.
All
of
these
people
have
aggressive
behavior,
do
not
have
anywhere
to
sleep
and
are
consistently
revolving
between
either
the
hospital
or
the
police
doors.
D
So
as
a
result
wanting
to
continue
to
ensure
that
support
and
accuracy
advocacy
don't
stop
when
access
has
been
restricted.
We've
gathered
with
our
partners
at
kingston
health
sciences,
mhs
providence
care,
kingston,
police
and
street
health
to
provide
ongoing
case
consultation
for
these
specific
individuals
in
order
to
support
them
to
re-engage
eventually
with
this
with
the
hub.
D
So,
to
sum
things
up,
it's
been
an
exciting
and
challenging
month
and
we've
learned
a
lot,
but
the
biggest
learning
from
the
past
month
is
that
bringing
community
partners
together
to
offer
low
barrier
services
in
a
way
that
meets
individuals
where
they're
at
works
and
while
the
past
number
of
weeks
have
not
been
without
their
challenges.
The
greatest
challenge
that
we're
discovering
is
that
the
need
is
so
great
and
that
it
currently
exceeds
our
ability
to
meet
it.
D
So,
to
close
things
off
I'd
like
to
invite
each
of
you
to
visit
the
integrated
care
hub
at
artillery
park
so
that
you
can
see
for
yourselves
the
impact
this
model
of
care
is
having
on
the
lives
of
those
we
serve.
So
I
invite
you
to
just
get
in
touch
with
me
or
one
of
the
managers
of
the
hub
and
we'd
be
happy
to
give
you
a
tour.
Thank
you.
A
E
So
thank
you
so
much,
I'm
curious,
so
the
examples
that
you
put
the
example
that
you
provided
is
really
helpful,
but
if
you
could
maybe
just
speak
to
any
sort
of
any
information
that
individuals
have
provided
as
far
as
what
their
experiences
have
been
like
in
the
past
and
how
this
model
is
suiting
their
needs,
and
we
we
make
assumptions
about
that.
But
if
you've
heard
from
them
firsthand
I'd
really
like
to
know
yeah.
D
D
You
would
think
that
it
would
go
without
saying
that
individuals
would
want
to
access,
for
example,
a
housing
list,
but
there's
a
great
deal
of
reticence
and
suspicion
out
there.
I
think,
probably
because
of
pr
your
past
traumatic
experiences
and
so
having
an
environment
that
contributes
to
that
trust.
Building
is
really
important
and
that's
what
we're
really
noticing
is
helping.
E
Thank
you,
and
also,
I
guess,
then,
just
sort
of
along
those
lines.
We
heard
from
a
number
of
residents
at
bell
park
that
the
the
community
building
experience
that
they
had
there
was
was
really
transformational,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
shed
any
light
on
that
in
the
current
context.
Are
our
folks
who
are
currently
accessing
services
at
artillery
park?
Are
they
who
have
come
from
from
bell
park?
Are
they
experiencing?
Do
they?
Do
they
feel,
along
with
the
connection
to
the
service
providers?
D
I
think
there
was
a
mistrust
sort
of
coming
out
of
the
gate
and
I
think
part
of
that
is
just
an
unfortunate
cause
and
effect
narrative
where
you
know
you
may
be
displaced
from
where
you're
currently
living,
but
here's
the
alternative
that
we're
providing
to
you,
and
so
we
were
really
intentional
around
actually
sending
our
team
to
bell
park
to
engage
with
the
people
who
were
living
there
and
and
then
also
inviting
them
very
specifically
to
the
hub
to
have
them
consult
with
us.
On
what
they'd
like
to
see
happen.
C
C
C
D
Well,
I
I
would
say
that
you
know
it's
because
of
how
we
invite
people
to
register,
for
example,
for
a
sleeping
pod.
You
know
they're
invited
to
come
every
evening
at
8
pm
to
put
their
name
on
the
list
to
get
a
spot,
and
so,
as
I
mentioned
for
the
last,
you
know,
12
evenings
we've
been
at
capacity.
That
being
said,
people
can,
you
know,
still
hang
out
in
the
drop-in
space
they,
even
though
they
you
know,
don't
necessarily
have
a
mat
to
sleep
on.
D
They
can
close
their
eyes
while
sitting
in
a
chair.
Obviously
the
capacity
issue
is
impacted
by
covid
restrictions
and
the
need
for
physical
distancing.
You
know
artillery
park
is
a
very
large
facility,
but
when
you're
spacing
people
apart
in
order
to
manage
the
potential
for
infection,
it
does
limit
our
ability
to
accommodate
people.
G
G
G
D
We
we've
been
thank
you
for
the
question.
We've
been
working
very
closely
with
the
city
and
in
fact
they've
been
you
know,
really.
You
know
I'll
use
the
word
aggressive
luck.
You
know,
for
the
lack
of
a
better
word,
very
aggressive
in
trying
to
identify
a
location
post
september
30th.
Obviously,
when
artillery
park
was
offered
to
us
as
a
temporary
location,
it
was
done
while
we
were
still
in
phase
two
of
you
know:
covid
re-entry.
D
A
G
Obviously
there's
a
number
of
people
that
prefer
it
to
going
into
shelters,
shelter
spaces.
So
I
think
that
that's
a
success
what's
troubling
is
hearing
that
there
were
12
consecutive
nights
when
they
were
at
full
capacity
and
that
some
people
had
to
be
turned
away,
and
I
know
we're
trying
desperately
not
to
have
campers
just
relocate
into
the
rough
into
the
bush,
and
I'm
I'm
just
wondering.
G
D
Yeah,
that's
that's
a
really
good
question
and
I
think
I
would
have
to
actually
defer
that
question
to
staff
because,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
first
answer,
it's
you
know
on
a
forward
basis.
It
will
be
contingent
on
identifying
a
location
that
will
accommodate
you
know
the
same
or
greater
number
of
people.
I
H
H
D
D
What
we
have
done
is
coordinated
done
the
coordinated
intakes
on
all
of
those
individuals
unless,
unless
they've
identified,
that
they'd
already
completed
one,
what
we're
noticing
as
we're
entering
that
information
into
the
hypha
system,
that
there
are
some
duplicates
and
then
there
are
some
people
who
have
never
accessed
the
this,
the
are
and
aren't
in
the
database.
That
being
said,
I
don't
have
the
breakdown
of
what
those
numbers
are
handy.
H
D
There
are
individuals
who
are
accessing
the
the
drop
in
space
who
were
bell
park
residents,
but
who
were
not
staying
overnight,
and
then
there
were
some
who
had
begun
to,
and
so
I
don't
have
specific
numbers.
But
we
do
know
that
there
was
a
migration
from
bell
park
over
to
the
hub,
and
I
would
say
that
a
lot
of
that
had
to
do
with
some
of
the
intentional
work
that
our
team
has
done
in
order
to.
You
know
re-establish
relationships
with
those
folks.
A
So
with
that
we
will
move
on
in
our
agenda.
We
have
no
briefings
petitions.
We
do
have
one
petition
listed
in
the
agenda:
a
petition
bearing
approximately
31
signatures,
requesting
the
extension
of
speed
bumps
on
macdonald
street
between
princess
street
and
concession
street
was
submitted
to
the
office
of
the
city
clerk
on
august,
the
14th
2020
by
joanne
mcalpine.
K
A
First,
move
by
councillor
chappelle
second
by
councillor,
osterhoff,
that
the
sincere
congratulations
of
kingston
city
council
be
extended
to
mayor
brian
patterson
on
his
election
to
the
amo
board
of
directors,
large
urban
caucus,
where
he
will
champion
issues
facing
kingston
his
voice
as
an
advocate
with
this
provincial
body,
will
ensure
that
we
have
a
seat
at
the
table
in
this
post-code
world.
Thank
you.
Brian,
moved
by
council
chappelle
seconded
by
mayor
patterson
that
the
sincere
congratulations
of
kingston
city
council
be
extended
to
aaron
o'toole
member
of
parliament
for
durham
on
his
recent
election.
A
As
leader
of
the
conservative
party
of
canada,
mr
o'toole
has
a
notable
connection
to
kingston.
As
a
former
resident
and
graduate
of
royal
military
college,
we
look
forward
to
working
with
him
to
advance
the
interests
of
our
community,
moved
by
deputy
mayor
neal,
secured
by
councillor
holland,
that
the
sincere
condolences
of
kingston's
city
council
be
extended
to
the
many
friends
and
family
of
terry
fleming,
who
is
a
long-time
member
of
the
housing
and
homelessness
advisory
committee.
A
She
worked
for
years
as
a
champion
for
cooperative
and
affordable
housing
and
for
many
years
in
shelters
in
transitional
housing
retiring
as
the
director
of
ryandale
housing.
She
is
the
beloved
mother
of
cat
evans
and
heather
ruttle
and
grandmother
to
jack
and
henry
robin
parade
was
pre-deceased
by
her
sister
and
long-time
former
city
councilor
mary
fleming
and
is
survived
by
her
sister
rosanna
parker.
A
She
will
be
sorely
missed
by
all
who
knew
her
moved
by
cancer
hill
seconded
by
counselor
kylie,
that
the
sincere
condolences
of
kingston
city
council
will
be
shared
with
the
family
and
many
friends
of
mack
freeman
who
passed
away
peacefully
on
august
27th
mack
was
born
in
battersea.
He
was
a
long-time
professor
of
the
queen's
faculty
of
education.
That
was
also
an
ordained
united
church
minister,
whose
beloved
husband
of
late
eleanor
and
is
survived
by
his
children,
kate,
jane
ann
and
peter
sister,
virginia
and
sister-in-law
dolores.
A
A
A
A
L
I'd
like
to
speak
to
the
item,
okay,
I'm
expecting.
I
was
expecting
more
questions
and
I'm
just
interested
in
the
question
that's
raised
by
the
municipal
steam
bonds
report,
which
is
really
good
and
really
interesting,
why
it
seems
to
be
limited
to
big
projects
and
why
life
doesn't
have
more
of
a
community
economic.
A
A
M
So
the
the
green
bond
market
is
has
not
been
developed.
It's
only
been
around
for
in
the
public
sector,
maybe
the
maybe
the
last
six
seven
years.
So
most
of
the
investors
are
larger
investors,
so
they
are
looking
for
larger
projects.
Now,
having
said
that,
as
the
market
is
developing,
we
do
have
one
or
two
what
I
would
call
boutique
firms
now
that
are
looking
to
be
sort
of
third
parties
to
help
in
terms
of
of
issuing
some
of
these
bonds
and
they
are
looking
at
smaller
ones.
M
Looking
at
a
minimum
of
maybe
80
to
100
million
dollar
issue,
that
number
certainly
has
dropped.
I'd
say
over
the
last
couple
of
years
as
this
one
boutique
firm
in
particular
has
come
into
the
market
and
they
are
looking
for
smaller
things.
But
with
that
comes
a
price,
you
wouldn't
see
the
same
discount
to
rates
with
the
boutique
ones
that
you
would
see
with
the
larger
issues
through
the
banks.
M
M
Having
said
that,
there's
also
the
ability
to
consolidate
projects,
but
any
projects
that
you
put
into
the
pool
obviously
have
to
have
that
same
level
of
eligibility
that
same
level
of
greenness
in
order
to
attract
the
investors
within
the
market.
So
you
know,
I
don't
think
you'd
probably
want
to
go
too
much
less
than
that,
but,
like
I
say
you
could
probably
go
down
to
and
I'm
you
know
guessing,
maybe
somewhere
around
the
40
to
50
million
dollar
mark
with
some
of
the
boutique
firms.
M
N
M
The
other
piece
with
the
green
bonds
that
you
need
external
support
is
you
need
a
company
that
will
also
basically
audit
the
greenness
of
the
project,
so
it
will
validate
that
the
pro
the
project's
eligibility
up
front.
It
will
validate
the
the
green
bond
framework
that
needs
to
be
created
by
the
municipality
and
then
we'll
also
provide
basically
an
external
audit
firm
that
provides
an
audit
on
each
year
on
the
results
of
that
investment
to
ensure
that
that
greenness
is
continuing
the
objective
of
what
the
investors
were
looking
for
has
been
met.
L
M
So
through
you,
mr
mayor,
just
to
comment
on
that
and
I
think
referenced
in
the
report.
One
of
the
recommendations
that
that
we've
made
is
that
we
continue
to
follow
our
debt
management
strategies,
and
so,
if
we
were
issuing
a
green
bond,
it
would
align
with
whether
we
were
whether
we
were
issuing
a
traditional
venture
or
a
green
bond.
It
would
be
something
that
we
already
identified
as
being
debt
funded
as
opposed
to
increasing
our
debt
levels.
M
So
the
example
project
that
we
did
include
in
the
in
the
report
was
the
cataract
way-based
sewer
plant,
and
we
haven't
obviously
done
the
work
to
determine
the
greenness
and
the
eligibility
of
that.
But
it
is
one
project
that
we
identified.
The
council
has
already
approved
78
million
dollars
of
debt
on.
M
We
are
borrowing
temporary
borrowing
right
now
from
infrastructure
ontario
to
to
do
that
project,
but
at
some
point
within
probably
the
next
year
or
two,
we
will
be
permanentizing
that
debt,
so
that
is
one
that
already
has
data
attached
to
it
and
the
council
has
approved-
and
we
could
potentially
look
at
the
market
at
that
point,
to
determine
whether
or
not
there's
feasibility
to
issue
as
a
green
bond
as
opposed
to
issuing
the
debt
through
infrastructure.
Ontario.
L
Okay,
I
did
see
that
and
that's
a
good
example
of
a
sizable
project.
That
would
be
arguably
green.
I
guess
I
guess
I'm
I'm
concerned
in
these
situations
where
the
city
seems
reluctant
to
do
smaller
projects
where
citizens
could
invest
in
the
project
themselves
and
get
a
return
of
a
lesser
sort
to
be
sure,
but
still
a
return
that
would
benefit
their
city
in
something
like
I
don't
know.
L
L
L
Criteria
are
what
we
would
do
anyways
the
city
right
like
that's.
It
seems
to
me
that
it's
that
in
the
feasibility
they
get
0.7
rules
that
you
would
follow
in
the
analysis
and
some
of
them
we
would
do
as
as
a
matter
of
course.
So
I'm
not
sure
I'm
convinced
of
the
complexity
other
than
the
fact
when
you
have
to
go
to
the
green
bone
underwriting
market,
not
sure
it
couldn't
be
simplified.
M
B
M
Debt
over
the
years,
particularly
if
it
was
significant
dollars
enough
to
do
that
if
it
was
small
dollars
under
our
under
our
funding
strategies,
we
probably
wouldn't
normally
be
issuing
that
in
the
first
place.
So
if
you're
talking
larger
dollars,
then
there
would
be
that
administrative
piece
on
that
that
certainly
we
wouldn't
have
the
resources
or
the
capacity
to
manage.
We
would
definitely
need
to
have
a
broker
on
board
to
manage
that
process.
For
us.
L
Okay,
just
so
we're
not
speaking
on
cross
purposes
here,
I'm
referencing.
What
I'm
talking
about
is
that
if
we
wish
to
actually
do
something,
then,
as
you
just
as
described
in
the
report-
that's
fairly
onerous,
but
I
think
that
green
projects-
and
I
think
we're
going
to
be
in
the
future,
going
to
be
forced
to
do
these
things
if
we're
going
to
meet
any
of
our
standards
that
we
set
for
ourselves
and
are
generally
set
by
governments
in
terms
of
green
gas
in
terms
of
gas
emissions.
L
G
Thank
you.
There
were
a
couple
of
things
that
we
had
brought
forward.
I
believe
my
secondary
was
counselor
kylie,
and
I
appreciate
that
there
were
green
bonds
and
we're
approaching
a
year
on
the
since
that
motion
passed.
There
was
also
a
green
fund
that
we
talked
about,
and
I
would
love
to
do
my
planned
giving
to
a
green
fund
of
the
city,
because
we
could
indeed
do
some
of
the
smaller
projects
through
that
and
one
of
those
projects.
G
I
want
to
point
out,
as
I
have
in
past
council
meetings
currently-
and
this
is
the
one
and
only
time
I'll
say
this
thanks
to
the
previous
government
provincial
government.
We
have
this
wonderful
thing
that
allows
municipalities
to
do
green
infrastructure
through
through
local
improvement
and
the
way
local
improvement
works.
Is
the
city
grants
the
money
up
front
in
this
case?
It
might
be
solar
panels,
it
might
be
heat
heat
through
heat
exchangers.
G
Those
kinds
of
things
could
be
done.
It
wouldn't
cost
the
taxpayer
anything
except
over
a
10
up
to
a
10
year
period.
They
pay
it
off
in
installments
on
their
tax
bill,
and
the
glory
of
this
is
that
you
actually,
they
would
actually
be
saving
more
money
on
their
hydro
bill
than
it's
costing
them
at
the
in
taxes
over
a
10-year
period,
and
this
has
been
proven.
G
Toronto
has
done
this
very
very
successfully.
This
is
the
kind
of
project
that
could
be
done
if
we
had
the
seed
money
that
you
could
create
through
through
the
whole
issue
of
of
of
green
bonds,
preferably
but
also
through
a
green
fund.
Where
are
we
at
ms
kennedy
on
the
green
fund,
because
I
know
we
last
time
I
asked
in
the
spring
pre-coveted
there
was
talk
of
it
was
ready
to
come
to
council.
A
G
G
M
M
C
M
M
I
don't
think
there's
been
too
much
issued
in
the
way
of
green
bonds
since,
since
march
there
was,
I
believe,
three
large
issues,
municipal
issues
in
early
2020.
I
know
in
talking
to
a
couple
of
my
colleagues.
I
know
the
city
of
toronto
is
looking
at
issuing
one,
perhaps
later
in
2020
or
early
2021,
so
so
they
are
out
there
and
I
would
say
in
talking
to
the
brokers,
they
anticipate
that
there
will
be
demand
and
there
will
be
supply
out
there.
G
G
C
G
A
lot
of
opportunity
for
smaller
projects,
the
the
other
thing
I'm
a
little
concerned
with,
and
it's
I've
seen
it
happen
in
the
issuance
of
provincial
or
federal
funding
for
housing.
For
instance,
we
end
up
applying
grants
that
have
been
given
to
us
for
previously
funded
projects,
I'm
thinking
of
right
crescent
as
an
example
that
was
fully
funded,
and
I'm
wondering
you
know
how
you
could,
how
you
might
be
able
to.
A
G
M
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
mayor,
so
the
recommendation
we're
staff
are
recommending
that
we
do
continue
to
monitor
these
opportunities
and
there
may
be
opportunities
for
smaller
projects.
So
we're
not
saying
don't.
Do
smaller
projects
we're
just
saying
we're
issuing
debt,
and
is
it
something
that
that
council
will
want
us
to
do
to
issue
debt
for
smaller
projects,
which
today,
generally
we
don't?
Do
we
normally
just
issue
debt
for
for
the
larger
projects?
M
There
is
the
possibility
to
do
that.
Absolutely
we
can
look
at
new
projects
coming
in.
My
thought
would
certainly
be
there.
There
is
a
lot
of
lead
time
to
issuing
a
green
bond
council
needs
to
approve
a
green
bond
framework
that
needs
to
be
created.
So
there's
a
lot
of
upfront
work
to
do
so.
My
thought
would
be,
as
we
continue
to
monitor
the
opportunities
that
we
are
looking
at
newer
projects
down
the
road
that
are
coming
as
opposed
to
things
today
now.
Having
said
that,
we
certainly
did
identify.
M
The
cat
bay
sewer
plant
because
it's
already
got
debt
approved
on
it,
but
absolutely
we
can
look
at
new
projects
that
are
coming
down
the
pipe
we're
not
necessarily
limited
to
smaller
ones.
We
may
be
able
to
put
a
number
of
smaller
ones
together
and
create
something
larger
and
the
other
thing
that
we
can
look
at
that,
I
think
was
suggested
in
the
report
is
we
can
always
switch
out
pay
as
you
go
with
debt.
M
So
if,
if
council
feels
that
they
want
the
the
the
transparency
benefits
and
to
show
the
commitment
by
issuing
a
green
bond
and
the
commitment
that
comes
with
that,
to
show
that
to
the
community,
there
may
be
the
ability
to
switch
that
out
and
use
some
of
our
cash
as
pay.
As
you
go
on
a
different
project
where
we
were
going
to
issue
traditional
debt.
So
there
are
certainly
options
like
that,
which
is
why
we
said
we'll
continue
to
monitor
it.
M
We'll
continue
to
monitor
the
market
and
the
rates
so
that
we
may
come
to
a
point
where
there
may
be
some
financial
benefit.
I
would
say:
there's
probably
not
a
lot
of
financial
benefit.
Today,
but
depending
on
the
supply
of
green
bonds
down
the
road,
there
could
potentially
be
some
benefit
for
even
some
financial
benefit
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
we'll
continue
to
monitor
that.
K
Thank
you.
You
spoke
of
not
many
opportunities
right
now,
and
the
report
also
speaks
to
significantly
more
complex
requirements
that
we,
as
municipality,
would
be
facing.
Do
we
have
any
estimates
on
how
much
time
and
administrative
burden
the
municipality
would
face
if
we
were
to
actually
press
this?
K
M
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
mayor.
I
don't
have
any
specific
estimates
at
this
point
as
to
as
to
what
it
would
cost.
It's
certainly
information
that
we
could
spend
some
time
compiling
and
talking
to
places
like
the
city
of
ottawa
that
have
issued
green
bonds.
I
expect
certainly
from
the
review
that
we've
done,
as
I
said,
there'd
be
quite
a
bit
of
time
up
front,
which
would
be
both
staff
time
because,
to
be
frank,
none
of
us
have
any
experience
with
with
issuing
green
bonds,
and
certainly
with
my
time
here.
M
I've
done
nothing
but
issuing
through.
I
o
so
there'd
be
a
bit
of
a
learning
curve
for
staff,
as
well
as
the
external
support
that
we
would
need
for
some
of
the
validation
pieces
so
around
creating
the
framework
or
the
policy
that
would
have
to
come
to
council,
the
review
of
projects
and
val
and
an
external
validation
that
the
projects
are
eligible
and
and
have
that
appropriate
level
of
greenness
investors
are
not
going
to
take
our
word
for
it.
M
They'll
want
a
third
party
opinion
on
that,
and
then
the
one
thing
with
green
bonds
is
that
there
is
a
an
annual
reporting
requirement
that
needs
to
have
an
audit
opinion
on
it.
That
basically
is
reporting
to
the
community
and
to
the
investors
that
the
objectives
the
greenness
objectives
have
been
met
through
the
through
whatever
the
investment
has
been
that
the
proceeds
have
been
used
for,
I
would
expect
that
would
not
have
a
huge
cost
to
it,
but
I
would
think
that
certainly
it
would
have
staff
time
in
terms
of
doing
the
monitoring
now.
M
Having
said
that,
we
do
that
now
anyway,
monitoring
our
our
ghd
ghg
emissions
and
reductions
in
that
regard,
but
certainly
there
will
be
costs
there.
So
I
I
don't
have
an
overall
cost
in
that.
The
other
challenge
that
that
we
have
run
into
is
it's
difficult
to
know
to
compare
the
cost
to
our.
I
o
issues
as
well,
because
we
don't
pay
an
administration
cost
to
I,
o
and
except
for
the
legal
opinion.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
external
costs
with
io.
M
K
It
actually
does
sound
better
from
my
perspective,
because
if
we
were
to
go
with
foreign
investors,
I
would
lining
the
pockets
of
goldman
sachs
or
some
other
investment
bank.
That
might
do
this
when
we
could
actually
do
it
here
in
ontario.
So
I
hope
that
any
proposal
that
does
come
out
can
show
how
the
it's
more
beneficial
for
us
and
for
the
province
to
do
it
outside
the
province
or
for
foreign.
K
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
one
regarding
the
ophc
funds
that
are
only
that
would
not
be.
We
couldn't
use
those
with
a
in
combination
with
a
partnership
with
the
private
sector,
but
could
use
them
for
a
non-profit
partnership.
So
lower
union
is
the
is
the
project
that's
cited,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
that's
the
only
project
or
if
there's
or
if
there
are
any
others
that
we
could
potentially
be
directing
these
funds
to.
N
Me
so
so,
thank
you
for
the
question,
so
we
we,
as
everybody
knows,
we
have
lots
of
different
priorities
in
the
affordable
housing
portfolio,
given
the
kind
of
the
the
timelines
of
the
specific
funds
and
the
need
to
to
obviously
move
the
lower
union
location
forward
and
and
kind
of
also
have
the
supportive
housing
units
that
we
are
anticipating
that
we're
we're
focusing
on
in
this
location.
This
is
is
definitely
the
most
preferred
option.
A
O
So
the
the
first
phase
of
the
social
services
relief
fund
was
to
be
utilized
for
operational
purpose
only
so
we
couldn't
use
those
funds
for
capital
purposes.
The
second
phase,
though,
can
be
used
for
capital
purposes,
so
it
could
be
used
for
renovation,
property
acquisition
or
operational
funding
as
well.
O
The
we
are
proposing
to
have
the
funds
from
the
first
phase
essentially
left
to
leave
those
funds
aside
as
we
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
some
flexibility
in
case
we
do
get
a
second
wave
of
coven
19
and
we
do
need
to
draw
from
these
funds.
With
the
second
phase,
you
will
recall
that,
with
the
integrated
care
hub,
we're
only
funded
until
the
end
of
september.
So
following
that,
it's
pretty
critical
that
we
find
some
funding
fairly
soon,
and
this
is
provincial
funding.
E
I
guess
the
final
question
has
just
been:
do:
do
we
do?
We
have
any
sense
that
the
provincial
government
recognizes
that
the
situation
that
has
been
created
and
that
currently
exists
will
continue
and
therefore
that
this
type
of
direct
funding
for
housing
and
supportive
services
would
continue.
Do
we
have
any
sense
of
that
at
this
point
or
or
is
this
a
matter
of
like
a
one-time
investment
of
this
money,
and
then
we
we're
not
sure
what
the
future
holds.
N
B
L
I
A
N
It
is,
unfortunately,
the
the
the
approach
that
we
always
will
have
to
take
if
we
do
receive
provincial
and
federal
money
and
if
you
know
things
change,
we
would
have
to
go
to
council
to
get
that
approval,
but
in
this
particular
situation
with
the
money
for
their
social
infrastructure
funds.
I
know
in
the
conversation
that
we've
had,
with
both
the
provincial
and
and
and
kind
of
represented
representatives
that
that
work
with
cmhc
on
the
approval.
N
L
Right,
well,
I
think
that's
fairly
evident
yeah.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
just
want
to
say
that,
of
course,
I'm
fine
with
this,
because
basically
it's
just
the
mechanics
of
fleshing
out
a
vigorous
housing
and
homelessness
strategy
that
staff
and
council
have
been
working
on
and
we
have
different
buildings.
L
We've
purchased
well,
first
of
all,
lease
and
some
purchase
we
have
purchased
some
will
purchase
and
the
development
of
1316
princeton
street,
which
hopefully,
with
some
senior
government,
help
we'll
be
able
to
have
more
of
a
system
now
for
transitioning
the
homeless,
up
through
transitional
housing
and
into
more
permanent
housing
in
the
city.
So
I
look
forward
to
that
with
some
optimism.
L
A
A
A
A
J
Thank
you
for
your
worship.
With
regards
to
the
marriage
arts
awards
nomination
working
group.
There
are
a
number
of
independent
artists
that
seem
to
be
mistakenly,
I
guess
avoided
or
that
they're
not
included
in
the
arts
and
culture
funding
mechanisms,
and
I'm
just
hoping
that
with
cassernel
on
the
appointment
committee
that
he
can
keep
an
eye
out
for
some
independent
artists
that
are
really
struggling
in
our
community
this
week
for
this
period.
Thank
you.
C
C
G
G
A
I
Thank
your
worship
through
you.
I
just
have
a
question
and
I
see
that
miss
gillespie.
Our
ceo
of
kingston
development
corporation,
is
on
the
line
from
the
report
and
it
has
the
stats
of
kedko's
website.
It
shows
that
the
hits
on
events
and
workshops
seminars
was
one
of
the
top
hits
for
the
website,
and
I
just
wondered
on
how
attendance
has
been
at
those
website
at
those
seminars.
I
know
a
lot
of
the
seminars
are
on.
I
You
know
e-commerce
and
expanding
social
media
for
businesses
in
kingston,
especially
in
covet
times,
and
I
just
wondered
how
those
event
seminars
are
doing
and
and
if
kingston
economic
development
corporation
is
going
to
be
expanding
out.
Those
seminars
like
last
year
compared
to
this
year,
is
there
the
need
to
like
have
lots
of
those
seminars
to
help
the
businesses
in
every
which
way
that
they
can.
A
F
F
F
We
partnered
with
the
city
of
kingston
and
kpmg
to
offer
financial
resource
planning,
as
well
as
a
network
of
ontario
small
business
centers,
so
we're
provincially
funded
as
well
as
one
of
54
aspects
throughout
the
province
and
we've
come
together
more
closely
than
ever
to
jointly
offer
workshops
that
would
be
of
interest
to
any
business
owner
or
entrepreneur
across
the
province.
So
that
has
certainly
driven
a
lot
of
traffic
and
a
lot
of
great
resources.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Seeing
no
other
questions.
We
will
continue
on.
We
have
no
information
reports,
members
of
council
miscellaneous
business.
We
have
several
motions
number
one
that
the
resignation
of
alex
adams
from
the
committee
of
adjustment
be
received.
With
regret,
I
have
a
mover.
Please
move
by
answer:
osanic
seconded
by
councillor,
holland,
all
those
in
favor
proposed
period
number
two
that
is
requested
by
melissa
esselstyne
little
people
of
ontario
council
proclaim
october
2020
as
dwarfism
awareness
and
acceptance
month
in
kingston.
A
Okay.
Moving
on
to
new
motions,
we
have
one
new
motion
moved
by
councillor
osanic
seconded
by
deputy
mayor
neal.
There's
a
healthy
professional
news.
Media
is
essential
for
the
proper
functioning
of
civil
society
and
democracy
at
the
local,
regional,
federal
and
international
levels,
whereas
the
public
policy
forum
declares
on
its
website
for
the
2017
report,
the
shattered
mirror
news,
democracy
and
trust
in
the
delayed
digital
age
commissioned
by
the
federal
government.
The
real
news
is
in
crisis
in
this
country,
whereas
the
u.s
federal
communications
commission
cited.
A
Eight
critical
information
needs
the
media
helped
to
provide
including
emergencies,
other
public
risks
to
health,
education,
the
environment,
economic
opportunities,
civic
and
political
knowledge
of
policy
initiatives
and
the
conduct
of
public
officials.
Candidates
for
office,
the
shattered
mirror
page
four,
and
whereas
canadians
have
lost
the
essential
services
provided
by
roughly
2
000
media
workers
and
100
communities
across
canada
due
to
layoffs
in
only
six
weeks
time.
A
A
The
kingston
city
council
endorses
legislation
and
regulations
to
support
and
rejuvenate
news
outlets
across
canada
and
urges
the
federal
government
to
move
quickly
to
pass
legislation
to
ensure
an
ecosystem
for
healthy
news
media,
including
local
and
independent
media,
to
serve
all
canadians
and
that
the
resolution
be
forwarded
to
the
area,
municipalities,
local
mps
and
mpps,
and
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities
and
association
municipalities,
ontario
councillor
osanic.
You
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
your
worship
and
thank
you
for
reading
out
that
very
lengthy
resolution,
but
trying
to
get
all
the
points
across.
So
this
motion
is
about
local
journalism,
that
being
not
just
print
but
print
broadcast
and
digital
journalism.
Local
news
is
an
investment
for
our
future.
It's
so
important.
It
provides
value
to
the
public
good.
I
It
also
prov
really
helps
the
local
economy
because
it
provides
an
opportunity
to
showcase
our
local
businesses
think
during
covet
the
businesses
that
it
have
been
highlighted
in
the
print
you
know
for
switching
over
to
producing
hand,
sanitizers
and
ppe
equipment.
You
know
we
want
to
hear
about
that
at
the
local
level,
so
important,
and
you
know
it
provides
good
advertising
to
the
businesses
too.
It's
so
important
for
that
think
how
different
our
news
would
be.
I
I
Those
comparator
cities,
just
some
local
examples
like
during
covet
in
july,
when
we
had
the
outbreak
at
the
nail
salon.
You
know
like
we
in
kingston.
We
wanted
to
hear
the
details
and
I
don't
think
the
coverage
would
have
have
been
that
if
it
was
only
the
toronto
star
and
the
globe
and
mail
covering
the
story,
there's
just
so
many
other
examples
of
this,
and
I
hope
that
council
can
support
it.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
very
much.
A
running
punch
line
of
mine
for
years
is
I'm
so
old.
I
can
remember
when
bob
ray
was
a
new
democrat,
but
there
are.
There
are
other
things
that
I
remember.
I
remember
when
our
our
daily
newspaper
had
seven
issues
a
week
and
was
a
nationally
and
even
at
once,
an
internationally
award-winning
newspaper,
and
we
had
at
that
time
three
weekly
newspapers
as
well.
G
It's
really
a
shame
that
our
our
local
news
has
become
so
shrunk
shrunken
from
that
period
when
there
was
less
population
ironically
and
we're
making
just
as
much
news
today,
but
it
isn't
being
covered.
The
weekly
newspaper
through
the
80s
and
90s
used
to
do
a
couple
of
very
brave
things.
They
had
an
attendance
record
for
council
how
many
committee
meetings
counselors
missed
how
many
council
meetings
counselors
missed.
G
We,
they
also
took
key
issues
a
dozen
or
so
over
the
year
and
showed
the
readers
exactly
how
every
councillor
voted
on
it.
We
had
a
much
more
informed
electorate
as
a
result
of
those
things
as
embarrassing
as
they
may
have
been
to
some
of
us,
so
we
need
a
strong
and
and
viable
press.
We
need
a
press
that
actually
does
investigative
journalism
which
isn't
something
that
an
intern
or
a
rookie
reporter
can
do.
G
So.
I
sincerely
hope
that
we
get
better
news
from
both
the
existing
news,
newspapers
and
media
today,
and
we
do
have
the
kingstonist,
which
I
think
is
doing
a
very,
very
good
job
online
journalism,
a
lot
of
it
volunteerism,
but
some
sometimes
they
shape
the
news
and
the
wig
picks
up
a
story
that
was
first
reported
in
the
kingstonist
and
those
are
those
those
are
good
things
we
need
more
of
that
kind
of
wherever
the
media
comes
from.
G
P
First,
just
so
that
I
am
sure
that
we're
talking
about
the
same
thing,
I
just
have
a
couple
questions
for
the
mover.
The
the
wording
that
you
said
you
know
is
likely
working
for
the
emotion
was
that
is
that,
speaking
of
writing
things
did
you
write
the
the
entire
motion
and
the
warehouse
passes
everything
and,
if
you
did,
did
you
were
you
informed
by
any
particular
group
that
was
asking
for
you
to
do
something
of
this
nature.
I
I
P
P
So,
first
of
all,
when
you
say
retired
journalist,
that
gives
me
a
lot
of
comfort
because,
like
cancer
neil,
I
do
remember
when
kingston
had
an
independent
daily
newspaper
that
was
truly
independent
and
not
just
a
subsidiary
of
the
toronto
sun
conglomerate,
which
is
what
the
kingston
constitution
is.
Today.
It's
owned
by.
P
Gets
its
marching
orders
from
toronto,
journalists
that
work
for
the
kingston
wood
standard
will
privately
complain
that
they're
not
allowed
to
report
everything
they'd
like
to
report.
This
is
the
truth.
We
don't
have
an
independent
source
of
news
in
kingston
at
all
some
people
like
the
kingstonist,
but
you
know,
if
you
look
at
the
owners
of
the
kingstonis,
you
quickly
see
special
interests
in
ownership
group,
mortgage
sellers
developers
and
the
like.
P
So
you
know,
and
when
you
talk
about
advertising
in
newspapers
and
in
news
outlets,
of
course,
that's
where
you
get
your
revenue,
but
that's
also
where
you
get
your
bias
and
what
what
what
the
independent
journalist
does,
regardless
of
the
outlet
that
he
or
she
works
for,
is
they
bring
their
journalistic
integrity
that
they
learned
at
school
to
the
job
and
they
try
to
balance
balance.
The
two
they've
got
the
information
coming
from
the
community,
which
is
the
raw
truth.
P
P
Act
all
the
time,
if
you're,
a
journalist
and
so
separating
the
bias
from
the
from
the
information
is
actually
up
to
the
reader,
and
you
you
can
once
you
once
you
know
a
journalist
and
you've
seen
them
cover
something
in
an
objective
way.
Then
you
can
become
more
comfortable
with
the
reporting
and
you
don't
fact
check
it
quite
as
much,
but
in
general
all
news
today,
yeah,
if
you
don't
fact-check
it
yourself,
you
run
the
risk
of
buying.
P
You
know
buying
what
they're
selling
basically,
and
so
what
I
was
concerned
about
this
motion
is
what
is
it
in
this
motion
that
actually
gets
us
back
to
those
days?
Cancer
neil
was
telling
talking
about
where
journalism
where
there
was
investigative
journalism,
when
there
was
real
journalism,
where
you
could
count
on
the
news
to
give
you
the
information
from
an
independent
source
that
wasn't
subject
to
so
much
bias.
So
what
is
it
in
this
motion
that
gets
us
in
that
direction?
P
You
know,
if
that's
the
way
it
goes,
then
it
could
be
of
great
benefit
to
the
community,
but
it
could
also,
if
it
ends
up,
you
know,
deepening
the
pockets
of
those
who
are
already
in
control
of
the
news
media,
which
is
a
very
small
number
of
conglomerates
to
control
the
news.
Today,
it's
not
very
beneficial
at
all.
So
this
is
a
double-edged
sword
that
we're
debating
here
today,
I'm
tempted
to
go
with
it
because
of
what,
let's
suppose,
I'm
excited
about
who
started
this
movement,
but
if
we,
if
we
expect.
P
Government
to
give
us
something
that's
unbiased,
come
on,
we
know,
that's
not
going
gonna
happen,
so
so
really
the
the
proof
will
be
in
what
the
legislation
that
we're
asking
for
actually
looks
like.
So
this
is
only
the
first
step,
and
this
is
the
beginning
of
a
long
campaign
to
move
back
to
independent
investigative
style
journalism,
and
I
sincerely
hope
we
have
that
in
kingston
one
day
again,
because
we
don't
have
it
at
all.
Today.
A
Thank
you,
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
couple
of
comments
based
on
something
from
the
previous
speaker.
I
just
want
to
just
commend
every
one
of
the
local
journalists
that
we
have
here
in
kingston.
I
think
that
they
all
do
the
very
best
that
they
can
with
what
they
have,
and
I
know
that
certainly
kingston
is
better
for
it
so
certainly
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
to
all
of
our
local
outlets
and
certainly
appreciate
being
able
to
work
with
them.
Thank
you
very
much.