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From YouTube: Kingston, Ontario - City Council - March 1, 2022
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City Council from March 1, 2022. For the full meeting agenda, please visit https://bit.ly/3sAedZ7.
A
As
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
kingston,
I
offer
these
words
in
the
spirit
of
this
gathering.
Let
us
bring
our
good
minds
and
hearts
together
as
one
to
honor
and
celebrate
these
traditional
lands
as
a
gathering
place
of
the
original
peoples
and
their
ancestors
who
were
entrusted
to
care
for
mother
earth
since
time
and
memorial.
B
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
welcome
to
everyone
and
and
special
welcome
to
neil
capone
who's,
our
as
his
new
commissioner
of
good
services.
It's
a
great
time
as
part
of
the
team
okay.
So
we
were
just
meeting
committee
the
whole
closed
meeting.
We
did
discuss
several
items,
including
an
update
on
various
ontario
land
tribunal,
appeals,
employment
lands
and
an
organizational
update.
A
Okay,
all
those
in
favor,
a
post
and
that's
cured.
Okay.
Next
we'll
move
to
the
approval
of
the
addeds.
We
have
two
addeds
that
we
will
approve
together.
The
first
addeds
is
a
couple
of
additional
delegations,
an
item
in
miscellaneous
business
and
communications,
and
then
on
our
set
added.
We
have
a
motion
of
congratulations
and
and
a
new
motion
can
I
have
a
mover
and
a
seconder
for
the
additives.
A
Please
move
by
counselor
neil
seconded
by
cancer,
aesthetic
all
those
in
favor
proposed
and
that's
secured
with
the
indulgence
of
counsel.
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
to
deal
with
new
motion
number
three
at
this
point.
If
that's,
if
nobody
has
strong
objections
to
that,
I
see
that
deputy
mayor
holland
is
not
here
at
the
moment.
A
D
Whereas
the
we
stand,
I
think
that
must
say,
whereas
the
we
stand
with
ukraine.
Movement
has
been
spearheaded
by
the
ukrainian
canadian
congress,
who
have
invited
all
canadians
to
join
the
campaign
and
support
the
ukrainian
people's
right
to
live
free
and
in
peace
of
their
own
land,
and
whereas
kingston
city
council
wishes
to
stand
in
solidarity
and
show
its
continued
support
for
ukraine
therefore
be
resolved.
That
city
hall
be
illuminated
with
ukraine's
national
colors,
blue
and
yellow
every
night
in
march,
for
which
a
previously
approved
illumination
has
not
already
been
scheduled.
A
The
outpouring
of
of
support
across
our
country
back
around
the
world,
but
here
especially
in
in
our
community
kingston,
to
to
stand
with
ukraine
to
stand
in
solidarity
to
be
with
them
to
stand
against
aggression
and
to
stand
for
democracy
and
freedom.
I
think
that
this
is
an
important
moment
to
be
able
to
show
that
support.
A
A
Some
of
them
have
family
members
that
are
directly
in
harm's
way,
with
the
attacks
that
are
occurring
right
now,
and
so
I
think
that
this
is
an
important
time
for
us
to
be
able
not
only
to
stand
with
ukraine,
but
also
show
support
for
those
in
our
community
in
our
ukrainian
community
and
others
that
are
being
so
directly
affected
by
by
the
the
attack
by
russia
against
ukraine.
So
this
is,
this
is
a
symbolic,
I
think,
an
important
act.
There
is
efforts
happening.
D
A
A
A
Our
first
delegation,
megan
knott
from
tourism
kingston
and
mary,
jo
currier
executive
director
of
downtown
kingston
business
improvement
area,
will
appear
before
council
to
speak
to
clause.
4
report
number
29
from
the
cao
with
respect
to
the
community
focus
group,
downtown
improvement
plan
and
just
a
reminder,
a
note
to
all
of
our
delegations.
You
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
speak
and
then
we
will
open
it
up
to
questions
from
members
of
counseling,
miss
knott
and
scary.
Welcome
and
you
have
the
floor.
E
F
Hello.
Sorry
about
that,
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight
and
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
share
some
of
our
thoughts
and
observations
in
the
downtown
core
from
a
tourism
and
business
perspective
when
it
comes
to
the
future.
Success
of
downtown
megan
is
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
tourism
aspects
and
I
will
then
follow
with
some
social
services
and
and
beautification
and
garbage
in
particular
aspects.
E
Next
slide,
please
so
obviously
the
importance
of
having
a
healthy
downtown
court
goes
hand
in
hand
with
having
a
healthy
tourism
economy.
So
obviously
we
know
that
there
is
a
concentrated
number
of
hotels
in
the
downtown
core.
We
do
know
that,
despite
the
pandemic,
we
see
a
growing
international
and
domestic
tourism
market
year-over-year
in
kingston.
E
We
also
know
that
the
night
economy
as
it
relates
to
tourism
is
absolutely
essential,
needs
to
be
incubated
and
it
has
to
be
safe,
safe
in
the
way
that
people
are
able
to
go
out
and
all
seasons
experience.
What
kingston
has
to
offer
from
the
standpoint
of
ensuring
there's
enough
lighting
ensuring
there's
enough
safety
measures
in
place
so
that
in
public
spaces
you
know,
tourists
and
residents
alike
feel
safe.
E
So
I
you
know,
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
I'm
clear
that
tourism
partners
are
speaking
in
support
of
this
report
tonight,
mainly
due
to
the
fact
that
we're
supporting
some
of
the
pieces
or
all
the
pieces
that
are
in
this
report,
but
specifically
street
closures,
specifically
highlighting
the
fact
that
improved
public
spaces
are
an
absolute
need
in
the
downtown
core,
especially
those
related
to
small
pockets
within
a
pedestrian
friendly
zone
and
especially
in
and
around
confederation
park.
Next
slide.
Please.
F
I
want
to
talk
about
the
number
one
priority
that
I
see
in
the
downtown
core
for
2022
and
that's
taking
responsibility
for
the
vulnerable
in
our
community.
I
think
it's
sort
of
human
nature
to
hope
that
somebody
else
will
deal
with
a
situation
that
is
escalating
in
the
downtown
core
when
it
involves
street
involved
individuals,
and
I
I
look
at
the
the
people
on
our
this-
the
streets
of
downtown
as
part
of
our
community,
so
we
would
like
to
advocate
on
their
behalf
for
better
solutions.
F
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
remember
that
the
people
that
are
in
the
downtown
core
that
are
suffering
are
our
people.
The
downtown
community
does
care,
I
think,
sometimes,
because
business
comes
first,
and
that
is
our
mandate
at
the
bia
to
help
businesses
succeed
that
sometimes
it
comes
across
differently,
but
we
do
care
about
the
vulnerable
in
our
community
and
are
looking
for
solutions
that
are
first
and
foremost
taking
care
of
the
vulnerable
individuals.
F
We're
looking
for
a
one-call
solution
when
there
is
a
situation
happening
on
the
street
that
is
outside
of
our
professional
skill
set.
We
we
would
like
a
one
call,
almost
like
a
triage,
so
that
people
can
from
there
the
professionals
that
work
with
people
in
in
vulnerable
situations
can
then
find
out
and
connect
that
person
with
the
the
appropriate
people,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
talk
very
briefly
about
our
street
crew
pilot
project.
F
F
F
I
want
to
talk
about
the
cleanliness
and
beautification
of
downtown
because
of
the
influence
of
the
influx
of
tourists.
Last
summer
in
covid
takeout
culture,
it
created
a
bit
of
a
garbage
crisis,
downtown
the
streets
of
downtown
suffered
from
daily
garbage
overflow.
Stained
sidewalks,
stray
garbage
human
and
dog
waste
and
there's
no
standard
recycling
program
currently
in
the
downtown
core,
which
means
garbage
seven
days
a
week.
F
A
G
Thank
you,
mayor,
patterson
and
through
you,
so
this
touches
on
something
that
you
were
just
speaking
to
so
hopefully
provide
a
bit
more
time
for
explanation
or
clarity
the
so
there
were
the
one,
the
recommendation
seeking
funding
for
addition
of
two
outreach
workers.
We
we
did
have
street
outreach
workers
doing
the
work
during
the
work
previously.
That
was,
I
mean
years
back
prior
to
the
pandemic.
That
was
the
role.
G
C
A
F
For
you,
mayor
patterson,
just
to
clarify
the
street
crew
that
I
showed
you,
they
actually
are
working
for
the
bia
on
a
contract
basis
to
help
clean
up,
but
they
do
have
relationship
with
with
the
entire
community
of
street
involved
individuals.
So
there
is
some
interaction
there.
The
current
outreach
strategy
that's
been
in
place
in
kingston
for
quite
a
while
is
not
able
to
they're
they're
city-wide,
so
they're
not
able
to
concentrate
specifically
on
the
downtown
and
often
aren't
available
when
we
have
a
situation,
that's
escalating.
F
So
this
is
a
solution
for
not
only
that
particular
scenario,
but
also
for
our
businesses
to
be
able
to
have
somebody
to
call
when
something's
ongoing,
and
they
don't
have
to
wait.
Two
or
three
hours
for
somebody
to
come
down
about.
90
percent
of
the
things
that
are
happening
in
downtown
that
we
need
addressed
are
not
don't
need
police
involvement.
A
I
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
of
staff
that
I'll
ask
later,
but
I'm
I'm
always
a
little
concerned.
I
totally
support
the
recommendations
that
are
before
us
here,
but
perhaps
you
comment
on
what
I
always
comment
on
when
these
things
come
up,
which
is
what
can
this?
What
can
we
do
beyond
division
street
because
that's,
I
know
the
boundary
of
down
the
dbia,
but
that's
not
where
things
end.
So
perhaps
you
could
comment
on
that.
E
If,
depending
on
where
you
know
land
crossings,
are
it
doesn't
really
actually
matter
that
mary,
jo,
is
working
with
all
of
us
to
support
a
healthy
and
vibrant
downtown.
So,
yes,
where
there
would
be
a
stand-alone
map
where
we
could
define
what
streets
would
be
in
and
out
of
boundaries
of
of
dbia.
I
have
to
say
it's
really
refreshing
to
work
with
mary,
jo,
because
she
sees
that
you
know
to
your
point:
division
street
is
part
of
downtown.
It's
a
that's
a
really
important
access
route
into
the
downtown
core.
E
F
I
do
see
this
particular
project
definitely
being
focused
in
the
downtown
core,
which
is
the
majority
of
the
bia
for
sure,
but
the
vulnerable
population
don't
see
boundaries
so
and
borders
we're
not
going
to
be
taking
care
of
the
west
end
or
the
east
end
or
somewhere.
That's
you
know
five
or
six
kilometers
out,
but
definitely
it's
it's.
The
surrounding
area
of
the
downtown
core.
A
K
I
have
a
question
about
the
which
you
just
touched
briefly
on
in
your
presentation,
but
it's
in
the
report,
and
it
involves
the
bia
and
tourism
kingston,
I'm
not
sure
who
wants
to
answer
this,
but
the
environmental
assessment
for
the
municipal
class
environmental
assessment
for
considering
ontario
street
closure
in
front
of
city
hall
and
market
street
besides
city
hall.
If
you
could
comment
on
specifically,
why
is
an
environmental
assessment?
K
C
A
K
Okay,
well,
without
going
into
the
legislative
requirements
of
environmental
assessment,
maybe
we
could
hear
it
says
in
the
in
the
report.
The
tourism
kingston
would
be
directly
involved
in
that
process.
So
maybe
megan
could
tell
us
what
what
tourism
kingston's
research
and
discussions
have
illuminated
so
far
on
the
subject.
E
Sure
yeah,
absolutely
thanks
councillor
strauss
for
the
question
so
as
you'll
remember
back
in
20,
I
want
to
say
it
was
18.
We
did
some
temporary
street
closures
of
ontario
street
and
we
did
those
to
test
our
ability
to
have
significant
street
closures
in
and
around
springer
market
square,
whereby
we
allowed
pedestrian
access
from
the
square
itself
through
to
confederation
basin.
We
worked
with
city
staff
as
well
as
community
partners
to
program
those
particular
weekends.
E
In
addition,
we've
done
temporary
street
closures
of
market
street
for
the
past
two
years
through
love,
kingston
marketplace
and
all
and
again
programmed
and
ensured.
There
was
lots
of
seating
and
just
made
it
a
vibrant
space
and
then,
of
course,
the
dbia
initiated
a
street
closure
of
king
for
the
last
I'd
say
eight
weeks
putting
those
illuminated
teeter-totters,
which
were
very
well
received
by
community.
So
we've
really
been
looking
through
the
integrated
destination
strategy,
which
was
published
in
2018.
E
That
gave
us
sort
of
the
mandate
to
look
at
temporary
and
permanent
street
closures,
especially
in
a
tourism
zone
or
a
district
downtown.
That
would
allow
more
walkable
safe
places
for
people
to
cross
people
to
enjoy,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
now
is
that
we've
tested
certain
areas
within
that
district,
as
it
were
the
ontario
street
the
market
street,
as
well
as
king
street.
So
now
what
we
need
to
do
is
go
a
step
further
and
understand
from
a
safety
and
a
traffic
flow
management
process.
E
What
we
do
from
here,
because
we
have
done
some
temporary
street
closures.
We've
had
some
studies
done
in
terms
of
public
consultation
on
them
and
they've
definitely
been
well
received.
So
it's
really
the
next
phase
of
how
we
go
about
looking
at
more
permanent
street
closures,
which
allow
more
public
space
and
safe
places
in
and
around
springer
market
square,
which
is
probably
one
of
the
most
iconic
and
want
to
be
photographed
and
walkable
places
in
the
city
of
kingston.
K
It
does
help,
and
I
agree
from
the
feedback
I've
received
from
the
residents
in
my
district.
It
is
most
of
these
street
closures
have
been
extremely
popular.
In
fact,
everyone
has
nothing
good
things
to
say
about
it.
It
seems
I
guess
I
would
just
maybe
you
could
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
the
care
that
tourism,
kingston
and
possibly
dbia
as
well,
is
taking
with
the
with
the
maybe
I
should.
K
I
should
ask
mary
jo
about
this
one,
the
dbia
I
mean
this
is
when
I
was
back
on
the
dvi
board.
This
was
a
subject
we
discussed,
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
elaborate
on
the
sort
of
very
careful
nature
of
these,
of
these
controlled
street
closures
and
and
and
and
how
that
relates
to
the
success
of
the
particular
events
and
what
might
be
different
if
we're
looking
at
a
permanent
closure
and
then,
and
also
maybe
elaborate
a
little
bit
more.
K
F
Through
you,
mayor
patterson,
I
guess
first
of
all
I
would
say
that
since
I've
been
resident
of
kingston,
which
has
been
about
eight
months,
I've
been
absolutely
in
awe
of
how
the
city
of
kingston
takes
care
to
move
forward
on
large
projects.
And
for
me
I
consider
this
a
very
large
project,
even
though
it
might
not
be.
You
know,
structurally
large,
it's
a
it's
a
big
change
in
our
community
and
especially
for
the
members
of
the
bia.
F
So
I'm
confident
that
the
city,
as
well
as
tk,
is
going
to
do
their
due
diligence
going
forward
in
terms
of
the
bia.
We
have
to
wait
and
see
to
see
what's
going
to
happen,
and
we
will
be
at
that
table
representing
our
members
as
it
moves
forward.
So
and
in
answer
to
your
question,
how
does
a
street
closure
change
things
for
the
four
events?
F
F
We
went
from
the
lowest
day
of
pedestrian
counts
from
275
up
to
over
2
000
in
a
day
on
our
first
teeter-totter
round,
and
that
just
kept
it
didn't
it.
It
didn't
stay
stable
in
terms
of
the
2000,
but
it
definitely
continued
to
creep
up
as
we
had
that
that
installation
and
that
that
type
of
installation
is
very
different
than
just
closing
it.
For
a
blues
fest,
we
had
to
continually
attract
people
down
for
four
weeks
in
a
row
and
we
didn't
have
to
do
much.
It
was
packed.
L
E
I
can,
I
can
start
mary,
jo
and
then
throw
it
to
you,
so
I
don't
think
it
was
the
quantity
of
washrooms.
It's
the
ability
to
keep
them
clean,
open
and
safe,
so
that
they're,
not
turning
into
shelters
so
working
with
through
the
working
group
to
ensure
that
the
washrooms
that
we
do
have
available
to
public
are
available
and
and
sort
of
in
a
safe
way,
because
we
have
had
feedback
quite
often,
actually
that
they've
turned
into
you
know
a
temporary
home.
F
A
Okay,
miss
not
miss
curry.
Thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
we'll
move
to
our
second
delegation
on
our
agenda.
Pogba
pharma
president
and
ceo
of
the
united
way
of
kingston
front
knack,
lennox
and
addington
will
appear
before
council
to
speak.
The
clause
for
report
number
29
from
the
cio
again
with
respect
to
the
community
focus
group,
downtown
improvement
plan,
all
right,
welcome
and
youth
floor.
Okay,.
M
M
Some
of
the
solutions
as
a
response
to
the
pandemic
include
the
integrated
care
hub
which,
together
with
the
consumption
treatment
site,
brought
healthcare
and
social
services
together.
While
it
may
appear
to
be
an
expensive
solution,
this
partnership
has
saved
lives.
Helping
people
who
didn't
have
these
supports.
M
The
kingston
response
group
started
last
year
made
up
of
shelters
agencies,
the
city
united
way
of
public
health.
We
worked
closely
together,
meeting
weekly,
often
twice
a
week
to
ensure
staff
and
program
users
were
protected
throughout
the
pandemic.
Mobile
vaccination
clinics,
ppe,
sharing
of
resources,
food
supports,
counseling,
were
all
handled
effectively
and
efficiently.
M
We've
also
started
a
homelessness
collective
impact
committee
to
work
on
some
of
the
challenging
issues
we
had
before
us.
The
causes
of
the
issues
in
our
community
are
systemic,
we'll
acknowledge
we
need
to
create
more
affordable
housing
options
that
suit
the
needs
of
people
who
are
homeless
or
inadequately
housed.
The
current
ontario
works
and
odsp
allowances
do
not
allow
people
to
be
housed
and
to
stay
housed.
We
require
targeted
long-term
supports
for
people
with
complex
than
current
issues.
Many
supports
are
short-term
and
there's
a
need
for
long-term,
consistent
and
stable
solutions.
M
The
city
united
way
and
service
providers
are
working
closely
closer
and
with
more
collaboration
than
we
ever
have
working
together
to
secure
lots
of
money
to
continue
the
work
that's
been
started
between
us.
We've
secured
federal
and
provincial
funding
that
got
us
through
these
two
years
and
we
need
your
help
to
continue
to
lobby
for
more.
At
the
same
time,
providing
compassionate
care
and
support.
The
local
level
is
critical,
which
is
where
city,
council
and
united
way
come
in.
We
support
people
locally.
M
I
would
like
you,
as
municipal
leaders,
to
think
about
the
enormous
differences
you
make
through
your
decisions
tonight
and
in
the
future.
Each
of
these
proposals
will
positively
impact
and
change
the
lives
of
people
residents
who
need
your
help.
Extending
the
services
provided
through
the
warming
center
is
essential
and
can
provide
a
pathway
to
housing
options
that
many
would
not
have
providing
day
services
for
people.
We
know
this
works.
M
Four
years
ago,
street
outreach
services
was
started
in
kingston
through
united
way
in
the
city
delivered
by
home-based
housing.
These
connect
people
with
a
counselor
who
meets
them
where
they
are
and
connects
them
with
services
when
they
are
ready.
Having
two
additional
workers
downtown
will
make
such
a
difference
and
increase
the
number
of
connections
for
people
who
are
homeless,
helping
people
access,
affordable
housing
is
essential.
We
know
that
helping
women
and
children
is
critical.
We
have
a
higher
than
average
number
of
women
who
are
homeless
in
kingston.
M
Supporting
the
proposal
for
downhouse
to
provide
services
for
women
and
their
families
in
safe
housing
is
going
to
have
a
huge
impact.
We
know
dawn
house
does
excellent.
Work
united
way
has
been
proud
to
support
them
with
their
existing
programs.
They
will
do
a
great
job
supporting
the
ridley
street
housing
as
proposed.
I
know
there
are
budget
constraints.
I
realize
council
needs
to
be
fiscally
responsible.
M
N
M
Please
so,
during
the
pandemic,
the
number
of
shelter
beds
has
been
reduced.
We
also
have
a
larger
number
of
people
who
are
street
involved
and
for
various
reasons,
some
of
them
are
not
able
to
access
the
shelter,
but
the
primary
thing
is:
we
have
fewer
shelter
beds
right
now.
The
last
two
years
we've
had
fewer
shelter
facts,
so
the
warming
center
has
certainly
added
to
that.
If
we
were
to
take
away
those
19
beds,
there
would
be
a
critical
situation
in
our
community.
N
C
A
O
As
you
know,
I'm
with
addictions,
mental
health
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
client
services,
and
I
we
had
three
representatives
myself
included,
who
were
part
of
the
focus
group
discussion
from
which
these
recommendations
were
made.
As
I
know,
the
city
council
is
well
aware.
The
pandemic
has
really
been
challenging
for
every
member
of
society,
but
particularly
those
with
addictions
and
mental
health
concerns.
O
It
has
closed
many
venues.
They
were
used
to
going
to
a
reduced
capacity
of
others
for
many.
The
challenge
is
the
pandemic
and
other
related
concerns,
like
the
impacts
to
employment,
the
increased
cost
of
housing,
isolation,
loneliness
and
what
seems
like
the
ever
increasing
availability
of
dangerous
street
drugs
has
had
a
real
effect
on
the
mental
health
and
addiction
needs
for
those
who
are
marginalized,
but
also
on
the
mental
health
of
many
in
our
community.
O
O
So
what
will
help,
as
recommended
having
dedicated
outreach
to
the
downtown
core
at
addictions,
mental
health?
We
do
have
an
outreach
service,
unlike
other
organizations,
home-based
housing
and
kingston
community
health
center,
but
we
cannot
solely
dedicate
our
service
to
the
downtown
kingston
as
contractually.
We
must
cover
all
of
kingston
front
and
atlantics
and
atticton.
O
We
have
an
excellent
detox
program
operating
at
kingston
health
sciences
center,
but
its
building
is
grossly
outdated
and
its
capacity
is
far
too
limited
for
the
needs
we
are
seeing
as
a
southeast
region
of
health
care
providers.
We
have
submitted
two
proposals
in
recent
years
to
the
ministry
of
health
seeking
a
more
modernized
space
and
an
increased
scale
of
operations.
O
We've
also
recently
submitted
a
proposal
and
are
hopeful
of
increased
addiction
stabilization
beds,
where
individuals
can
go
to
after
detox,
as
the
title
suggests,
to
stabilize
and
to
have
the
opportunity
and
clinical
support
to
work
on
their
addiction
and
other
needs
city.
Council's
continued
advocacy,
as
recommended
in
this
report,
is
requested.
O
O
O
O
O
O
Actually
again,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
that,
through
the
the
count
and
actually
paffner
who
was
just
on
here,
the
there's
a
countdown
of
homeless
population
that
would
be
a
better
source.
I
don't
have
that
right
at
my
fingertips,
but
we
do
know
there
are
folks
every
night,
even
with
a
warming
center
who
don't
have
a
warm
place
to
stay.
O
G
Hey
cameron,
patterson
and
through
you
so
looking
at
the
recommendation
for
the
daytime
drop-in
service,
I
know
that
it
was
something
you
referenced,
but
also
just
that
the
current
options
that
are
available
are
for
groups
that
are
not.
That
would
not
include
the
clients
that
you
serve
necessarily
or
they're
they're
more
limited.
G
So
the
looks
like
we're
getting
close
to
an
rfp
downtown
seems
to
be
where
the
needs
are,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you,
if
you
feel
that
the
combination
of
maybe
relaxing
of
some
of
the
coveted
restrictions
can
provide
some
relief
in
the
short
term
as
we
move
closer
to
that,
and
what
I
mean,
I
see
you
now
a
bit
nodding,
but
when
I
suggest
that
downtown
is,
is
the
preferred
option,
I
think
what
I'm
really
getting
at.
Is
you
know
if
you
could
speak
to
what
you
envisioned
for
a
space
downtown?
O
A
So
we
do
have
one
further
delegation
on
the
added,
so
first
move
by
council
mclaren
executed
by
councillor
neil
that
our
procedural
bylaw
be
waived
to
allow
maggie
mclaren
to
appear
before
council
to
speak
to
clause.
3
of
report
number
29
from
the
cio
with
respect
to
the
operator
recommendation
for
805,
ridley
drive,
east
wing.
A
Q
Q
I'm
here
to
ask
council
to
support
the
six
recommendations
put
forward
in
report
22-072
and
to
let
you
know
how
excited
we
are
to
know
that
by
the
end
of
this
year
there
will
be
more
affordable
housing
for
women
in
our
community.
Don
house
has
been
serving
homeless
and
vulnerably
housed
women
in
kingston,
since
1986.
Q
Q
Additional
and
supportive
housing
at
our
current
lower
transitional
housing
unit
and
nine
affordable,
supportive
apartments.
These
12
new,
deeply
affordable
apartments
at
805.
Ridley
are
so
needed
in
our
community.
Every
day
we
receive
calls
and
applications
from
women
looking
for
emergency
transitional
supportive,
just
plain,
affordable
housing
without
supports.
We
hear
their
stories
and
understand
their
challenges.
A
A
B
Q
Enables
them
to
transition
towards
greater
independence.
We
see
some
women
being
able
to
move
directly
into
ridley
drive,
while
others
may
transition
from
our
current
location,
where
we
serve
clients
with
higher
acuity.
This
would
provide
opportunities
for
women
requiring
more
supports
to
be
served
at
our
milford
drive
location.
Q
Q
We
expect
that
we
will
receive
a
similar
reception
at
ridley,
dr
initially,
but
believe
that
the
neighbors
there
will
quickly
learn.
They
have
nothing
to
fear
in
terms
of
the
funding
being
recommended.
The
deeply
affordable
rents
will
not
pay
the
bills,
so
we're
very
appreciative
of
the
occupancy
subsidy,
which
is
a
hundred
and
ten
dollars
per
unit
per
month,
which
is
less
than
four
dollars
per
person
per
day.
Q
We
also
understand-
and
the
city
obviously
understands
that
this
is
about
more
than
just
bricks
and
mortar,
and
the
funding
grant
of
65
000
per
year
will
help
us
to
help
these
women
to
adapt
and
succeed
in
their
new
transitional
homes.
Tonight,
we're
only
concerned
with
the
east
wing
at
ridley
drive,
but
we
look
forward
to
discussions
with
city
staff
about
the
west
wing.
We
have
some
ideas
for
the
west
wing
and
look
forward
to
working
with
city
staff
to
bring
something
back
in
due
course.
Q
In
closing,
just
let
me
say,
dawn
house
is
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
city
on
this
housing
opportunity.
We
see
this
as
a
new
beginning
for
our
relationship
with
the
city
and
an
opportunity
to
help
more
women
in
need.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
again.
We
hope
the
council
will
support
the
recommendations
in
this
report.
R
Thank
you,
mayor,
patterson
and
through
you
thank
you,
miss
mclaren
for
the
presentation.
As
the
district
councilor,
I'm
gonna
ask
a
question
that
you
might
have
been
speaking
about,
but,
to
be
honest,
I
think
it
cut
out
and
was
hard
at
least
for
me
to
under
understand.
Could
you
tell
us
about
the
relationship
between
the
milford
site
and
the
individuals
who
might
be
living
at
ridley?
Could
you
just
go
over
that
again?
Please.
R
Q
The
two
sites
are
actually
very
close
together
in
the
west
end,
and
what
we
see
is
that
you
know
women
at
dawn.
House
who've
received
a
lot
of
supports,
who
are
ready
to
move
into
something
where
they
could
be
a
little
more
independent
could
move
into
the
ridley
drive
location
with
less
supports,
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
support
those
women
who
have
higher
needs
at
our
current
location.
C
A
A
Okay,
see
now
we
do
have
one
motion
of
congratulations
or
appreciation
moved
by
mayor
patterson
seconded
by
deputy
mayor
holland,
that
the
sincere
appreciation
of
kingston
city
council
be
extended
to
all
of
our
transit
employees
in
recognition
of
national
transit
operator
and
worker
appreciation,
day
being
held
on
friday
march
18
2022,
our
transit
employees
play
a
vital
role
in
providing
safe,
reliable
transit
service
to
our
residents
on
a
daily
basis.
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
our
community.
A
S
A
A
Okay,
so
first
we
will
vote
on
the
first
three
clauses
and
then
we
will
look
at
closed
english
force
so
clause.
One
word
of
contract,
commercial
laundry
equipment
clause,
two
renewal
of
the
service
level,
agreement
between
the
city
of
kingston
and
sustainable
kingston
corporation
plus.
Three
reports
declare
surplus
lands,
east
of
cloggs
road
for
transfer
to
employment
lands
inventory
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried.
S
S
U
U
And
so
we
were
quite
quite
enlightened
by
the
fact
that
we
need
to
look
at
really
optimizing.
Our
current
response
capacity
within
existing
resources
and
we
intend
to
do
a
comprehensive
look
at
the
response
times
and
overlay
them
with
the
locations
of
the
fire
stations
and
we
think
we're
finding
some
preliminary
information
that
really
outlines
that
we
can
improve
response
times
by
adjusting
some
of
the
the
municipal
boundaries
that
were
pre-municipal
restructuring.
U
So
this
community
risk
assessment.
Well,
it
was
also
a
provincial
requirement,
aligned
very
nicely
with
the
requirement
to
do
that
under
the
accreditation
process.
So
we'll
we'll
report
back
in
each
year
on
if
there's
any
changes
and
we'll
certainly
be
in
a
good
in
a
good
position
to
file
this
with
the
province
before
the
deadline
of
2024..
U
So
we're,
I
think,
we're
in
good
shape
and
we'll
keep
our
eye
on
things.
And
we
do
have
some
projects
that
came
out
of
this
community
risk
assessment,
many
of
which
came
from
the
community
themselves
as
a
comprehensive
community
involvement
process
that
we
worked
with
in
collaboration
with
customers
and
communication
and
customer
experience
staff,
and
we
had
great
support
from
our
asmt
staff
and
well.
We
compiled
this
document.
S
N
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
chief
armstrong
for
a
good
report
and
we
need
to
thank
you
and
the
firefighters
and
the
employees
of
the
department,
for
I
think
the
results
are
quite
clear
that
they
they're
doing
a
good
job.
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions,
though,
just
ten
eight
hundred
and
something
pages
long,
maybe
one
tends
to
get
lost
in
it,
the
accounting
for
the
responses
and
the
medical
and
so
on.
N
U
U
N
Response
time
benchmark,
that's
the
benchmark
to
give
you
the
system
gives
is
410
seconds
and
then
the
baseline
response
time
was
473
seconds
and
then
that's
improving
greatly.
When
we
talk
about
the
effective
response
force,
which
you
explain
in
a
report
which
makes
up
the
difference
and
then
some
I
was
just
wondering
what,
if
you
could
tell
us
a
bit
more
about
where,
unless
those
two,
those
two
response
times
are
related.
U
So
obviously,
we
want
to
send
an
initial
response:
crew
within
the
approved
benchmark,
which
which
is
contained
in
the
bylaw
that
was
recently
approved
by
council.
So
we
wanted
to
measure
that
incrementally
for
the
first
do
arriving
units
for
heart
attacks,
initial,
to
address
an
initial
fire
to
address
an
initial
car
accident
or
to
respond
to
a
false
alarm.
The
effective
response
force
are
the
remaining
crews
that
are
required
and
part
of
this
risk
assessment.
U
U
We,
we
have
noticed
the
15
gap
or
63
second
gap
in
the
urban
career
and
a
20
gap
or
117
in
the
volunteers,
in
the
urban
area
and
in
the
rest
of
the
area.
The
real
response
is
by
the
volunteer
contingency
that
we
have
at
kingston
farm
rescue.
They
meet
both
the
benchmarks
in
both
the
first
do
and
effective
response
force.
U
So
one
of
our
goals
within
the
community
risk
assessment
is
to
incrementally
approve
the
total
response
time.
That
is
the
time
it
takes
for
the
communicator
to
process
the
call
the
time
it
takes
the
firefighters
to
put
on
their
personal
protective
equipment
and
get
on
the
truck
and
then
the
travel
time
to
that
scene.
U
So
the
each
one
of
those
incremental
times
is
measured
to
the
90th
percentile,
meaning
in
nine
times
out
of
ten
they'll.
Do
that
within
that
time
or
better?
So
when
we
look
at
the
total
response
time
and
add
those
incremental
times
up
together,
we
have,
I
have
to
clarify
and
say
that
that's
each
one
is
taken
separately
at
the
90th
percentile.
N
U
U
We
also,
as
part
of
this
community
risk
assessment
to
mitigate
the
risks
in
those
areas.
We
we
wish
to
supply
a
certain
amount
of
water
within
a
specified
time
on
a
continuous
basis,
and
those
processes
are
up
to
date
as
a
result
of
accreditation,
and
we
will
be
revising
those,
as
required
under
the
fire
underwriters
agency
in
the
hydrant
areas.
U
We
we
do
60,
plus
vulnerable
occupancies
within
the
community,
our
fire
prevention,
inspection
staff
work
with
the
operators
of
those
vulnerable
occupancies,
and
they
do
time,
decress
drills
to
make
sure
that
people
that
have
mobility
issues
and
need
to
evacuate
from
their
from
their
dwelling.
That
can
do
so
safely
and
within
a
certain
amount
of
time,
and
we
also
make
suggestions
to
the
community
to
provide
added
measures
for
their
occupancies
to
ensure
that
they
have
more
time
to
get
out
if
their
mobility
is
greater
or
impacted
in
a
greater
way.
L
I
know
that
the
75
000
has
come
from
a
grant
from
the
federal
government
to
update
the
airport
master
plan,
but
because
we
just
went
through
an
update
to
the
master
plan,
that
was,
I
think,
a
15
million
dollar
expansion
of
the
runway
and
our
terminals.
I
just
wondered:
if
staff
could
just
describe
a
bit
about
what
the
airport
master
plan
will
be,
so
that
any
residents
hearing
about
the
master
plan
being
updated,
they
don't
have
to
worry
that
we're
going
to
be
expanding
the
runway
even
further.
V
V
It
will
build
on
the
work
that
was
done
during
the
expansion
of
the
airport,
but
because
of
the
pandemic.
The
focus
of
this
master
plan
will
really
be
on
looking
at
the
business
model,
exploring
aviation
and
non-aviation
related
business
development,
taking
advantage
of
the
opportunities
that
the
airport
expansion
has
provided
to
provide
improved
air
service.
So
again,
the
focus
is
really
on
sort
of
pandemic
recovery
and
there
will
be
extensive
public
engagement.
So
it's
key
stakeholders
in
that
process.
S
Thank
you,
mayor,
patterson,
I'm
not
completely
clear
on
on
this,
and
I
was
wondering
if
we
could,
maybe
I
have
read
about
it,
actually
understand
its
importance
at
this
time.
We've
just
had
some
delegations,
speaking
and,
and
I
think
we
all
acknowledge
the
importance
of
their
support,
and
and
I'm
wondering
if
this
is
actually
that
important
at
this
time
and
and
so
I'm
trying
to.
I
have
trouble
supporting
something
like
this.
When
I
would
like
to
see
us
be
supportive
of
of
the
other
initiatives
that
we
will
support
tonight
so
can.
V
To
your
worship,
through
you
to
counselor
osterhoff,
perhaps
I
can
get
started,
I'm
not
the
technical
expert.
I
believe
our
cio
is
on
the
call
council
call
tonight.
I
I
would
say
that
the
role
that
data
plays
and
continues
to
play
in
the
delivery
of
services
that
the
city
of
kingston
it
grows
and
becomes
more
significant.
The
example
that
was
provided
within
the
report
related
to
tree
canopy.
V
This
is
not
simply
just
the
purchase
of
of
visual
imagery.
It's
the
purchase
of
of
the
tools
through
artificial
intelligence
to
actually
analyze
that
that
data.
The
work
that
we
do
with
planning
with
with
public
works
and
other
departments
is,
is
integral
and
critical
to
the
delivery
of
services
across
the
city.
So
I
certainly
appreciate
that
that
you
know
resources
are
limited
within
the
city,
but
this
is
a
budgeted
item.
W
Mr
thank
you,
commissioner,
hey
david
and
through
you,
mr
mayor.
Yes,
as
as
craig's
had
the
use
of
of
data
and
these
artificial
intelligence
and
machine
learning
tools
are
becoming
much
more
kind
of
critical
and
integrated
into
the
various
processes
of
the
city
and,
in
fact,
the
one
of
our
goals
here,
and
one
of
the
real
benefits
is
to
gain
staff
efficiencies.
T
W
W
J
W
Is
an
incremental
cost,
as
as
mr
desjardins
and
said
it
is
in
our
budget,
and
those
costs
will
be
recruited
through
staff
of
efficiencies
and
and
just
faster,
faster
service
delivery
and
more
effective
use
of
staff.
Time
really
across
all
departments
in
the
organization
from
public
works
to
planning
through
partnership
utilities,
kingston.
S
Yeah
thanks
for
that,
I
I
do
hear
it
and
I
I
do
remember,
reading
the
significance
or
the
potential
of
this
particular
technology.
I
have
a
certain
discomfort
about
it
and
I
I.
I
would
think
that
this
would
be
an
item
that
we,
even
though
it's
budgeted
for
that
we
have
a
lot
of
items
coming
before
us
that
are
not
budgeted
for.
So
to
me,
something
like
this
is
something
that
could
wait,
so
I
won't
be
supporting
this
tonight.
A
K
K
So
to
that
end,
just
to
remind
council,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
trees,
that
when
we
we
amended
the
budget,
as
my
suggests,
to
amend
the
budget
to
double
the
amount
of
neighborhood
tree
planting
trees
that
we
make
available,
and
we
were
told
that
the
cost
for
that
budget
cost
for
that
was
about
a
hundred
thousand
so
that
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
learned
that
night
at
budget
night
would
double
the
amount
of
trees
available
to
for
community
members
to
plant
on
their
own
property
in
the
city.
K
That's
you
know
several
thousand
trees
right.
That's
a
tangible
gain,
so
here
we're
comparing
that
with
a
cost
of
an
incremental
cost
of
200
000
twice
as
much
as
that
budget
amendment
for
a
better
in
my
understanding,
better
information
technology
like
better,
better
programs
to
do
the
analysis
that
will
save
staff
time.
I
don't
dispute
that
at
all.
Maybe
staff
could
illustrate
because
we're
looking
at
what
council
also
half
was
talking
about
was
value
for
money.
K
W
So
so
there's
the
the
impact
is
much
broader
than
just
in
the
you
know,
area
of
trees
that
you
mentioned.
I
also
understand
you.
You
realize
that,
as
as
as
well,
this
is
a
relatively
new
area,
an
important
area,
though
for
this
city
to
get
engaged
in,
so
that
we
can
exploit
the
the
data
that's
available
to
us
to
really
move
forward
and
get
the
information
that
you
know
the
various
departments
need
to
to
work
more
efficiently.
K
Okay,
thank
you
I
might
have
to.
I
might
have
to
ask
the
cio
a
question,
but
first
I
just
wanted
to
draw
council's
attention
to
to
to
what
we're
talking
about
economically
here.
So
because
often
we
do
qualitative
assessments
when
we
vote
right
when
we
support
her
or
oppose
recommendations,
it's
on
a
qualitative
basis,
as
in
you
know,
I
like
trees.
This
is
for
trees.
Therefore,
I'm
going
to
vote
for
this
or
I
like
I
want.
I
want
safer
streets.
K
This
is
for
safe
streets,
I'm
going
to
vote
for
that
kind
of
thing,
but
we
have
to
also
look
at
value
for
money
and
that's
what
councilor
ostroff
is
saying
is
that
he
doesn't.
He
doesn't
understand
how
this
200
000,
which
is
a
large
number
comparison
to
some
other
things
that
we've
done,
and
how
that
really,
how
that
how
that
comes
into
play?
So
I
guess
maybe
I'll
go
right
to
my
question.
K
There
was
communication
today
from
this
hero
about
the
the
new
provincial
initiative
to
speed
up
the
developments
and
the
extra
funding
related
to
that
to
streamline
the
development
process
is.
Is
there
any
way
that
that
any
of
that
funding
could
be
applied
to
this
cost,
because
clearly,
if
planning
has
access
to
this
better
technology,
all
of
the
planning
applications
will
be
more
smooth
unless
I'm
mistaken,
and
maybe
the
ceo
could
could
answer
that
question
about
whether
we
can
apply
some
of
that
new
provincial
funding
to
this
cost.
P
P
So
the
issue
of
course,
is
that
this
technology
is
much
broader
than
just
planning
application.
Planning
application
would
be
a
small
portion
of
it
and
we
could
look
at
the
that
particular
portion.
So
if
it
was
25,
000
or
30
000,
we
could
look
at
allocating
that,
but,
generally
speaking,
most
of
the
funding
would
not
be
going
for
a
planning
application
in
terms
of
what's
proposed
with
the
near
map
system.
X
Yeah,
thank
you
and,
through
you,
mayor,
patterson,
just
add
a
little
bit
of
additional
detail.
Although
I'm
not
a
gis
specialist,
we
certainly
have
that
with
embedded
within
the
planning
services
group
as
one
of
our
departments,
and
we
also
have
a
corporate
gis
group
that
resides
in
ict
services,
which
is
the
host
of
the
report
tonight
or
the
sponsor
of
tonight's
report.
So
on
the
planning
side,
this
type
of
digital
information,
more
so
than
actual
planning
applications,
we
use
it
for
the
rendering
associated
with
doing
master
planning
of
the
city.
X
So
the
creation
of
the
3d
modeling
that
is
now
very
important
when
we're
modeling
new
areas
of
the
city,
to
look
at
intensification
built
form
those
types
of
peeps
pieces
versus
actual.
You
know
individual
planning
applications.
So
the
the
application
on
the
planning
side
is
more
master
planning
policy
basis
being
able
to
create
virtual
environments
and
evaluating
impact
of
prospective
development,
certainly
utilize
it
for
for
that
to
some
extent,
but
it's
not
really
an
accelerator
of
housing
per
se,
and
that's
more
so
what
the
provincial
money
is
is
associated
with
so
it.
K
Well,
that
certainly
answers
my
question.
I
do
know
from
my
time
as
heritage
chair
that
when
dash
became
available
to
heritage
members-
and
we
did
the
training
and
so
on,
it
was
kind
of
funny
this
to
see
the
the
inter
connection
between
the
the
high-tech
dash
system
and
and
the
the
heritage
structures
which,
of
course,
we're
talking
about
much
older
buildings
than
any
of
the
technology
used
to
to
illustrate
it.
I've
just
it
really
did
revolutionize
the
way
that
applications
came
through
at
the
heritage
committee
having
the
access
to
dash.
K
So
I
am
assuming
here
with
this
upgrade
to
3d
technology,
as
you,
as
you
pointed
out
so
now,
you'll
be
able
to
see
the
bulk
of
like
the
massing
of
buildings
in
real
time
and
areas.
You
know
for
infill
in
real
time
and
and
same
thing
with
trees
right,
which
are
also
3d,
that
that
seems
like
actually
a
bit
of
a
game
changer
and
it's
disappointing
that
it's
not
eligible
for
any
of
that
provincial
funding.
K
I'm
not
surprised,
but
it's
disappointing,
because
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
a
much
more
accurate
way
of
mapping
out
the
city
right.
So
I
really
think
I
really
think
I
think
it's
expensive
really
compared
to
some
other
things,
like
I
say
it's
twice
as
much
as
the
extra
amount
for
doubling
the
tree
initiative,
but
like
we
could
have
tripled
there.
K
Y
B
Y
To
work
with
another
provider
to
not
a
shelter
provider,
in
other
part,
narrator
to
to
secure
some
additional
space,
so
they
have
a
really
solid
plan
for
the
next
for
the
next
little,
while
managing
through
the
pandemic
and
also
looking
at
their
future
plan.
So
they
have
been
well
supported
and
also
have
been
very
appreciative
of
utilizing,
805
weekly.
R
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
Now
that's
a
great
segue,
because
my
next
question
was
about
when
we'll
see
new
residents
and
knowing
that
some
of
that
time
in
between
the
youth,
shelter
and
hopefully
don
house
will
require
construction.
What
type
of
construction?
How
will
it
impact
other
neighbors
in
this
area.
Y
Y
As
you
will
recall,
this
is
part
of
the
rapid
housing
initiative
that
we
were
able
to
secure
through
the
federal
government,
which
also
has
some
requirements
around
kind
of
lead
up
time
and
and
and
time
to
kind
of
have
the
property
available
to
to
an
operator.
So
it
is
mainly
like
internal
work.
So
so
it's
obviously
not
a
new
build.
It's
an
existing
build.
R
Y
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Answer
you
mayor
patterson.
I
will
start
and
I
will
ask
mr
davis,
who
is
the
project
manager
on
this
project,
to
also
maybe
jump
in
here,
but,
first
of
all,
we
definitely
have
you
know,
division
also
based
on
the
reality
of
the
numbers
that
we
see
in
our
community.
It's
in
the
report
as
well,
but
we
know
we
have
quite
a
a
number
of
women
that
needs
housing
in
in
different
kind
of
ways.
Y
So
we
definitely-
and
I
know
the
delegation
spoke
to
it
as
well
earlier.
That
definitely
will
be.
You
know
a
way
of
kind
of
transitioning
or
working
with
their
existing
location
and
this
east
wing.
We
do
have
a
vision
of
of
the
whole
building.
Looking
at
the
opportunity
to
make
the
whole
building
you
know
aligned
with
either
you
know,
obviously
the
same
provider
on
both
sides
and
some
sort
of
synergy
between
both
but
but
regardless
of.
Y
Z
Davis,
thank
you
very
much
through
you,
mr
mayor
how's,
my
audio
thank
good.
Thank
you
and
counselor.
The
in
an
ideal
world
we'd
have
the
two
wings
working
very
closely
together,
so
we're
bringing
together
we're
bringing
forward
tonight
a
recommendation
on
the
east
wing,
but
there's
also
a
recommendation
allowing
us
to
go
forward
with
dawn
house
to
develop
some
proposals
for
the
west
wing
and
we'd
like
to
bring
that
back
to
you.
There's
two
issues:
one
is
the
service
and
housing
services
and
the
clients
in
need,
but
the.
Z
The
money
so
the
east
wing,
the
capital
improvements,
were
funded
through
rapid
housing.
Rapid
housing
did
not
fund
any
improvements
to
the
west
wing,
so
we
plan
to
bring
you
back
a
package
which
will
include
you
know
the
types
of
clients
who
could
be
served.
Whether
don
house
is
able
willing
and
ready
to
to
do
that
second
piece
or
whether
there's
another
partner
that
we
can
bring
to
the
table
and
bring
you
a
financial
plan
that
comes
back
with
that.
So
that
would
come
back
to
you
in
june.
R
Okay
thanks
so
much.
My
final
question
is
about
the
overall
rations
there
when
we
do
find
out
in
june,
who
might
be
in
the
east
wing
or
sorry
the
west
wing
rather,
and
if
the
uses
are
potentially
incompatible
or
even
if
they
do
work
well
together,
is
there
a
way
that
we
could
provide
some
type
of
privacy
or
security
fence
between
other
neighbors
and
the
site
just
again
recognizing
the
clientele
and
the
vulnerability
that
some
of
them
have?
R
Y
Thank
you
and
to
you
mayor
patterson.
Absolutely
we
are,
we've
already
have
and
continue
to
have
conversations
with
the
neighbors
with
the
operator
and
our
offense
is
on
the
wish
list,
and
it's
definitely
something
we're
looking
at
based
on
funding
and
how
we
are.
You
know,
obviously
moving
forward
with
the
budget,
so
definitely
very,
very
much
something
that
we
are,
that
we're
looking
into
and
would
like
to
find
a
good
solution
for,
and
I
guess
your
first
question
or
your
first
part
of
that
question-
I
I
will
be
quite
frank.
Y
R
J
I
Thank
you
very
much.
I
totally
support
this.
Don
house
has
been
a
very
successful
and
very
over
the
years,
women's
shelter
and
right
now,
without
having
service
provider
for
specifically
for
women.
I
think
there's
some
issues
when
we
have
women
going
to
a
kind
of
co-ed
setting,
and
I
think
I
think
they've
done
a
very,
very
good
job
over
the
years.
They
have
a
very
good
reputation.
I
G
G
However,
in
spite
of
all
that,
it's
obvious
that
there
are
still
gaps
and-
and
I
know
that-
and
I
hope
council
knows
that
those
gaps
are
what
we
will
be
needing
to
be
addressing
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months
in
some
fashion.
So
I
think
I
guess
the
first.
I
do
have
a
question.
First
of
all,
the
staff
and
a
couple.
The
questions
really
have
to
do
mostly
with
how
are
we
going
to
keep
an
eye
on
progress
that
the
first
part
talks
about
reporting
back?
G
I
guess,
overall,
the
the
kind
of
reporting
back
structure
is
to
report
back
in
march
2023
to
council
with
an
update
on
the
outcomes
of
these
recommendations,
and
that
makes
perfect
sense.
It's
a
year
from
now
we'll
have
experienced
everything
and
and
see
what's
working,
but
also,
of
course,
this
council
is
not
going
to
be
involved.
Is
there
is
there
something
built
in
that
where
staff
will
be
moving
forward
or
permanently
implementing
any
solutions
so
that
we
don't
have
to
wait
and
see
what
happens
with
the
new
council
or
what
happens?
P
I'm
having
some
sound
problems,
mr
mayor,
I
apologize.
I
am
actually
doing
the
sound
from
my
phone,
so
in
the
meeting
from
my
computer,
some
challenges
tonight
so
counselor
holland.
We
will
be
implementing
these
measures
as
soon
as
council
approves.
So
there
are
a
number
of
them
that
are
identified
as
short-term
measures.
P
Those
would
be
implemented
right
away,
so
the
street
outreach,
for
example
in
the
downtown,
would
go
ahead
right
away.
We
have
the
warming
center
that
we
continue
to
operate
and
internally
within
our
partners,
we
would
be
tracking
some
data,
especially
around
street
outreach,
to
try
to
monitor
the
change
in
terms
of
people
that
are
living
in
homelessness
in
the
downtown.
P
J
G
P
So
there
are
a
number
of
them
that
are
related
to
cleanliness
that
we
will
be
implementing
once
and
I
assume
those
are
going
to
continue,
but
some
of
the
social
services
one
may
require
ongoing
funding.
If
we
want
to
continue,
I
can
tell
you
that
we
are
currently
working
on
that
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
sustain
funding
for
some
of
those
initiatives.
Should
they
be
successful.
P
G
You
okay,
so
one
final
question:
it's
on
item
f
in
the
report,
which
is
on
information
sharing
and
better
coordination.
That
was
an
item
that
was
identified
by
the
focus
group
as
something
that
needed
attention.
I'm
sure
anyone
who's
ever
been
engaged
with
social
service.
Work
of
any
kind
would
know
that
that's
one
of
the
key
priorities
always
and
but
then
I
guess
to
that
point
that
having
a
working
group
to
address
to
address
information
sharing
and
better
coordination
amongst
agencies.
I
know
we
have
other
groups.
J
P
L
Thank
your
worship
through
you.
I
support
the
recommendations,
the
two
outreach
workers
and
extending
the
warming
center
one
thing
from
the
delegation
when
they
showed
the
picture
of
overflowing
garbage
cans.
I
just
wondered:
if
staff
can
comment
on
that,
there
was
so
many
recyclables
that
were
in
that
garbage
can,
and
so
is
that
part
of
the
solution
like?
Can
we
get
more?
L
AA
Thank
you
and
through
your
worship.
Yes,
so
we're
well
aware
of
what's
been
happening.
We've
had
quite
a
few
discussions
with
mary,
jo
from
the
dbia,
and
talked
about
the
the
overflowing
systems.
The
contamination
levels
that
we
have
in
some
of
the
recycling
and,
quite
honestly,
the
recycling
system,
I
would
say
from
a
public
use
perspective-
is
not
fantastic
from
what
I've
discovered.
AA
A
lot
of
our
recycling
actually
is
going
straight
into
the
garbage
because
of
the
level
of
contamination.
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
objectives
of
this
is
to
increase
first
of
all,
the
garbage
pickup,
if
needed,
for
different
areas,
and
it's
and
it's
actually
beyond
just
princess
street
by
the
way,
but
to
look
at
making
sure
that
our
schedules
are
addressing
the
needs
that
we're
seeing
out
there
with
the
overflowing
garbage
and
recycling
containers,
placing
more
garbage
and
recycling
containers
in
the
downtown.
AA
So
we're
working
with
the
bia
to
identify
locations
where
it
would
make
sense
to
have
more
and
then
we're
also
looking
at
what
can
we
do
to
improve
the
system
for
recycling
in
public
spaces?
And
then
you
know,
a
typical
example
of
that
is:
is
coffee
cups,
so
you
hear
people
put
a
coffee
cup,
but
there's
still
coffee
in
the
coffee
cup
and
that
then
contaminates
that
vote
so
we're
looking
at
all
those
things
to
try
to
improve,
because
we
my
mind
really
really
do
need
to
do
a
better
job
on
that.
L
I
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
the
community
focus
group
has
done.
I
think
they
have
some
excellent
suggestions
and
I'm
I'm
really
happy
that
both
the
dbia
and
tourism
kingston
recognized
that
with
this
pool
of
money,
that
is,
taxpayers
money
that
they're
quite
willing
to
go
beyond
division
street.
I
J
K
A
AA
Thank
you,
councillor,
naom,
through
your
worship.
Yes,
that's
correct!
There
won't
be
any
reduction
of
servicing
in
the
williamsville
area,
for
instance,
what
we're
doing
there
and,
as
I
indicated
in
the
email,
the
intention
is
really
to
look
at
the
princess
street,
from
divisions
between
division
street
up
to
the
old
traffic
circle
area,
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
beautify
that
that
stretch
as
well.
I
J
N
I
don't
know
how
many
times
I've
been
through
this,
so,
but
not
to
the
extent
of
the
central
focus
group
which
has
very
strong
ideas
about
what
need
to
be
done.
That's
why
I
asked
about
how
many
detox
beds
we
needed.
We
need
to
have
goals,
we
need
to
know
really
what
we
need
and
we
need
to
pursue
that,
partly
with
the
province,
because
detox
is
not
a
municipal.
N
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
and
thank
you
for
council,
holland
and
council
mcniel
sort
of
getting
at
the
same
thing
for
bringing
it
up,
and
I
hope
it's
a
city
we're
going
to
be
committed
to
doing
this
and
we're
going
to
look
at
it
as
a
mid
to
long
term
problem
in
which
homelessness
and
the
housing
problem
is
going
to
be
with
us,
hopefully
better.
But
we're
still
going
to
be
with
us
this
time
next
year
and
that's
basically
what
I
have
to
say.
Thank
you.
A
L
L
I
do
know
that,
as
we
all
know,
that
kingston
is
experiencing
like
stronger
storms
on
a
lot
of
these
storms,
other
than
being
really
windy
are
also
bringing
a
lot
more
water
into
into
kingston.
Look
at
the
flooding
that
we've
had.
You
know
like
the
fall
time
with
the
big
strong
storms
that
we've
had
a
lot
of.
Our
developments
too,
can
have
storm
water
issues.
A
Oh,
that's
cynical,
just
I'll
just
pause
there.
So
we
have
a
motion
to
amend
a
move
by
concert
executed
by
myself.
That
report
29
clause,
6
c
from
the
cio
command,
be
amended
in
paragraph
1,
adding
as
amended
by
reducing
the
allocation
to
the
excel
dash
system,
100
000.
In
order
to
increase
the
contribution
to
the
crca
by
100
000.
In
order
to
secure
hydrogeologist
services,
it
will
support
planning
applications
going
forward
with
the
intent
to
streamline
and
accelerate
the
review
process
immediately.
A
L
Right
so
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
then
the
crca
they
do
do
their.
The
city
relies
on
them
to
do
water
analysis
and
the
crca
does
not
have
a
hydrogeologist
on
their
staff
and
if
we
could
allocate
money
to
them
for
the
hiring
of
a
hydrogeologist,
it
would
help
speed
up
our
development
process.
Thank
you.
S
Yeah,
I
know
I'm
intending
to
support
this.
I
like
the
direction
and
the
intention
behind
it.
The
thing
is
I,
my
understanding
of
crca
counselor
senec
is
that
they
don't
have
necessarily
enough
work
for
a
hydrologist
and
but
they
could
it
could
it
be
is
this
is
the
is
the
idea
behind
this
amendment
that
they
would
have
to
bring
on
a
higher,
because
I
think
that's
where
they
I've
sensed.
They
were
reluctant
they're,
not
here,
to
speak
to
it,
but
that
they,
but
that
they
have
the
services
of
a
hydrologist.
P
Thank
you
and
to
you,
mr
mayor,
so
I've
had
the
chance
to
talk
to
the
crca
in
the
last
few
weeks
and
I
would
concur
with
council
rooster
off's
concerned
about
having
sufficient
work
for
full
time,
but
there
could
be
ideologies,
services
that
are
provided
so
how
the
crca
decides
to
structure
that.
I
think
they
would
best
know
that
and
what
council
could
do
is
redirect
the
funding
and
then
the
crca
determines
how
best
to
approach
this,
whether
it's
a
part-time
position
combined
with
something
else,
they
could
look
at
the
different
options.
K
P
So
thank
you
and
to
you,
mr
mayor,
so
counselor
stroud,
that's
a
very
good
question.
The
provincial
funding
does
have
criteria
attached
to
it
and
being
able
to
streamline
and
fast
track
or
accelerate
planning.
Application
is
part
of
the
criteria,
so
the
province
is
really
looking
for
ways
on.
How
can
we
get
faster
approvals
and
faster
shovels
in
the
ground
to
actually
move
to
more
residential
units
at
a
faster
pace?.
P
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
mayor,
so
commissioner,
agnew
may
want
to
add
to
this
because
she's
more
familiar
with
the
dash
system,
but
definitely
having
access
directly
to
hydro
g
expertise,
would
help
to
fast
track
in
the
reviews
and
not
have
to
outsource
everything
to
consultants
and
not
know
which
consultant
is
going
to
review
what.
So
that
takes
time
to
select
some
consultants.
X
X
K
K
Applicants,
okay,
yeah,
because
the
applicant
has
to
have
to
pay
for
that
extra
service.
If
it's
required
okay,
well
it
then
it
seems
like
it
seems
like
it.
It's
a
bit
of
a
stretch
to
say
that
this
will
streamline
applications,
but
I
I
think
that
in
in
the
in
the
cases
where
hydrogeologists
might
be
the
stumbling
block,
it
definitely
would
avoid
a
delay.
K
N
A
N
In
the
report
about
dash-
and
I'm
only
receiving
comments
about
how
difficult
dash
is
the
x
access
and
how
difficult
it
is
to
use
and
how
you
can
easily
get
lost
in
there
from
the
you
know
the
public,
but
I
had
a
counselor
the
other
day.
Tell
me
they're
in
there
every
couple
of
weeks
to
a
month
and
they're
saying
they
can't
remember
how
to
get
in
there,
because
it's
so
complex,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
some
of
this
money
will
or
the
changes
we're
thinking
about
bringing
about,
will
actually
help.
This
problem.
N
X
You
thank
you
through
you,
mayor
patterson,
so
certainly
a
great
question.
Counselor
hutchinson
and
you
are
correct.
There
are
certainly
elements
to
do
with
the
system.
It's
been
in
place
for
planning
since
2016,
which
maybe
doesn't
seem
that
long
ago,
but
in
the
world
of
technology
advancement,
it
was
the
city's
first
use
on
the
planning
side
of
a
land
management
system,
and
we
did
our
best
to
configure
what
used
to
be
a
manual
paper-based
process
to
a
digitized
system.
X
X
Part
of
the
work
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
looking
at
that
feedback
and
targeting
those
things
specifically.
So
there
will
be
in
process
improvements
for
staff
in
terms
of
reducing
steps
and
the
complexity
of
how
we
complete
work
in
the
system.
But
there
will
also
be
user
face
improvements
for
for
the
the
customer
for
the
applicant
themselves
to
make
it
easier
for
them
to
navigate
the
system
and
for
members
of
the
public
to
be
able
to
access
the
information
they
want
associated
with
planning
files.
So
it'll
be
doing
both
things.
N
R
Thank
you,
mayor
patterson,
for
you.
I
was
wondering
why
of
the
staff
were
proposing
hiring
we're
not
talking
about
having
people
come
on
board
to
finish
up
some
of
the
big
policy
documents.
That
planning
has,
you
know
very
laudably,
been
undertaking
density
by
design,
central
constant
growth
strategy
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
Perhaps
ms
agnew
could
talk
to
the
staff
we
have
through
this
fund.
X
And
thank
you
and
through
you
and
great
question,
counselor
kylie.
I
think
part
of
the
challenge
that
we
had
in
devising
a
strategy
for
how
we
wanted
to
propose
council
spend
this
money.
Is
that
the
limitation
is
that
it's
it's
one
year,
funding,
it's
one-time
funding
and
we
have
12
months
to
spend
it
and
you
have
to
provide
all
the
documentation
of
the
spend
within
that
period.
So
it's
not
like
we
can
say
we're
almost
done,
but
we're
going
to
have
some
expenses
that
go
further
into
2023.
X
The
planner
of
the
day
function
looking
at
committee
of
adjustment
or
some
of
those
more
minor
items
that,
by
offloading
those
from
some
of
the
more
senior
staff,
we
have
we're
in
fact
freeing
them
up
to
be
able
to
assist
more
with
the
policy
work.
So
it's
it's
a
two-prong
strategy
that
we've
we've
developed,
trying
to
look
at
how
we
can
best
utilize
the
money.
Within
the
time
we
have
recognizing
the
market
restrictions
that
we're
dealing
with.
At
the
same
time,.
A
A
A
A
S
S
We
we
did
discuss
it.
I
did
work,
ask
for
an
amendment
to
give
greater
consideration
for
the
owners
of
this
particular
property.
It's
a
it's
a
man's
property
of
of
a
church
community
and
it's
a
beautiful,
beautiful
building
and
place,
and
they
they
had
asked
for
the
for
permission
to
install
vinyl
windows
on
three
basically
windows
that
were
causing
livability
issues
in
the
home
and
so
and
when
that
was
brought
forward,
then
heritage.
Was
it
determined
that
that
probably
couldn't
happen?
S
It's
a
very
strict
bylaws
related
to
windows.
So
the
concern
I
have
about
it
is
that
it's
an
extreme
cost
to
do
this
and
though
we
go
down
to
to
line
number
five
and
it
talks
about,
should
replacement,
be
justified
through
a
detailed
assessment.
Details
of
all
replacement
windows,
including
elevation
and
section
drawings,
showing
the
appropriate
history
and
and
patterning
proportions
shall
be
submitted
and
even
though
number
five,
as
it
reads,
is
supportive
and
it
provides
the
owners
with
an
opportunity
to
have
some
relief.
S
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
it's
not
enough,
and
I
I
think
it's
time
for
council
to
to
look
at
this
and
to
maybe
we
can
have
the
director
address
it
as
well
tonight
here
to
to
know
that
I
do
believe
it
is
going
to
be
addressed
in
the
in
the
short
term
future.
But
but
this
file
would
I
I
can't
support
it
in
its
present
as
it's
being
recommended
tonight,
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
get
maybe
miss
campbell
to
explain
it
further.
AB
Thank
you,
and,
and
through
you,
mayor,
patterson,
and
thank
you,
council
easter,
hawk
for
the
chance
to
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
the
file
that
is
before
council
this
evening
and
the
recommendation
that
staff
have
made
the
cost
for
window.
Repairs
is
certainly
substantial.
It
is
one
of
the
the
areas
of
heritage
management
that
we
try
very
hard
to
support
applicants
to
be
doing
ongoing,
routine
maintenance
on
windows
so
that
they
can
defray
major
repair
costs
by
keeping
up
with
those
maintenance
schedules
and,
in
fact,
well
maintained
period.
AB
Windows
have
exceptional
life
spans
and
actually
can
outperform
modern
equivalence
on
replacement.
But
when
you
do
need
to
do
substantial
repairs,
they
are
costly
to
create
those
repairs.
So
the
the
recommendation,
that's
before
a
council,
does
call
for
the
repair
of
these
windows.
The
conditions,
though,
do
allow
for
additional
discussion
about
what
those
repairs
will
will
look
like.
So
I
think
one
aspect
of
this
that
I
would
just
like
to
share
with
council
to
confirm
is
that
the
permit?
AB
AB
We
saw
one
quote
on
one
window
on
this
property
at
exceptional
cost,
which
set
up
a
very
high
total
quote
for
the
work,
and
so
certainly
we
want
to
work
with
the
applicants
through
this
recommendation
to
get
better
understandings
of
every
window.
Our
next
step.
There
would
then
be
supporting
the
applicant
to
scope
those
repair
costs
so
that
they're
appropriately
restoring
and
retaining
those
attributes,
but
that
they
aren't
necessarily
going
for
the
luxury
full
cost
everything
all
in
unless
it's
really
warranted.
AB
So
we
would
like
to
support
them
in
that
way,
and
that
is
supported
through
this.
This
recommendation.
The
other
aspect
that
this
recommendation
will
allow
as
well
is
alternate
repair
solutions.
There
are
interior
storm
options
etc,
and
the
recommendation
certainly
doesn't
specify
that
one
repair
strategy
is
approved
over
another.
AB
So
we
would
want
to
support
that
and
then
finally,
I
would
add
the
opportunity
to
continue
to
apply
for
grants
through
the
city.
There
is
a
five
thousand
dollar
grant
that
can
also
be
applied.
I
don't
say
all
of
this
to
suggest
to
council
that
repairing
these
windows
is
going
to
cost
less
than
a
vinyl
replacement,
but
it
is
the
position
of
heritage
and
you
know,
certainly
the
standard
within
the
heritage
field.
That
windows
are
one
of
the
most
essential
attributes
of
heritage
properties,
and
so
their
repair
is
is
an
important
thing.
AB
J
AB
S
Yeah
and
I'm
still
mayor
patterson,
if
I
can
continue,
I
know
that
that
that's
exactly-
and
I
thank
you-
miss
campbell
for
preparing
it.
That
way,
and
one
of
the
things
I
I'd
like
to
see
us
do
is
is-
is
categorize
buildings
that
not
all
buildings
are
the
same
in
in
ontario
9,
000,
manses
like
this
are
going
to
be
at
risk
and
where
it's
they
have
become
unaffordable,
and
I
would.
I
would
think
that
we
might
want
to
consider
or
have
categories
of
these
type
of
buildings.
S
Certainly
this
one's
a
rurally
located
building
and
and
that
we
have
categories
of
special
considerations
of
windows
that
are
not
visible,
and
I
think
that
we
ought
to
consider
where
there
might
be
a
negative
impact
on
our
objective
as
heritage,
where
people
won't
do.
The
repairs
and
they'll
continue
to
degrade,
and
so
I
think
that
it's
something
that
we
should
be
thinking
about
here,
even
even
tonight,
are
we
doing.
S
Are
we
doing
a
disservice
to
heritage
when
the
livability
of
these
properties
is
coming
into
question,
because
of
the
cost
and
and
and
perhaps
we
as
a
council
can
and
can
do
more
by
looking
at
other
communities
like
like
hamilton,
has
zero
percent
loans
for
heritage
buildings?
Perhaps
there's
more?
That
can
be
done
to
show
our
commitment
to
heritage.
T
Thank
you
just
a
quick
question
about
your
alternate
repair
options
and
the
livability
of
some
heritage.
I
understand
that
windows
are
extremely
important
as
a
heritage
thing,
but
some
of
the
18th
and
19th
century
windows
are
not
very
economical
for
a
heat
retention
inside
a
building.
Does
that
include
these
alternative
repair
options,
ways
of
making
the
inside
of
the
building
still
inside
of
the
window
up
to
modern
standards
of
heat
efficiency.
AB
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
I'm
certainly
not
an
engineer
who
has
trained
in
these
areas,
so
I
can
only
speak
to
the
knowledge
that
I've
acquired
kind
of
in
the
practice
of
heritage,
but
it
is
generally
understood
that
well-maintained
period
windows
can
perform
very
close
to
to
equivalence
with
with
modern
windows.
I
know
when
we
talk
about
double
pane
windows
versus
single
pane,
we're
often
looking
at
you
know
the
addition
of
storms,
either
interior
or
exterior
storms,
to
get
that
same
degree
of
support
and
functionality
out
of
the
windows.
AB
When
we
look
for
the
repair
of
period
windows,
though
we
don't
look
for
them
to
be
brought
to
modern
compliance,
if
you
will
or
performance
criteria,
I'm
not
sure
how
we
would
even
assess
that
equivalency,
but
certainly
there
is
a
lot
of
literature
in
the
field
that
would
support
that.
The
well-maintained
period
windows
can
function
very
efficiently
within
homes.
K
Hi
the
this
discussion,
now
it's
becoming
a
you
know
a
I
guess,
a
monthly
thing
where
we're
going
to
talk
about
heritage
windows,
it's
a
little
surprising
it's.
It
was
definitely
something
we
talked
about
a
lot
on
the
heritage
committee,
the
four
years
I
was
there,
so
thank
you.
Council
rose
for
half
for
highlighting
this
tricky
aspect
of
of
heritage
buildings.
It
pretty
much
every
heritage.
K
K
I
think
I
think
you
have
to
be
if
you
want,
if
you
want
to
highlight
the
repair
cost
which,
as
dr
campbell
said,
is
much
much
higher
if
windows
haven't
been
maintained
according
to
schedule
and
they
have
to
be
repaired
right
so
repaired
rather
than
maintained,
the
repair
is
more
expensive,
but
we're
talking
about
an
amount
that
is
nothing
compared
to
what
the
property's
value
is.
Nothing
the
windows,
even
if
it's
five
thousand
dollars
to
repair
them,
that's
nothing
compared
to
what
their
properties
were.
Okay.
K
I'm
sorry
if
I'm
offending
any
any
homeowners,
but
it's
a
little
bit
nickel
and
dimey
to
say
your
whole
you're
going
to
jeopardize
the
heritage
value
of
your
entire
property
for
the
sake
of
saving
a
few
hundred
bucks.
You
know
it's,
it's
quite
a.
I
don't
own
a
heritage
property,
but
I
lived
in
one
and
it
had
heritage
windows
and
they
were
they
were.
They
were
replaced
by
the
new
owner
after
I
left
and
it's
a
real
shame.
K
K
They
look
for
that
purity
in
the
components
and
if,
if
the
new
owner
of
where
I
used
to
live,
when
he
comes
time
to
wanting
to
sell
that
place,
it
won't
be
to
a
heritage
lover,
because
those
hair,
all
those
beautiful
heritage
windows,
are
gone
and
they
and
they
were
fine.
They
didn't
even
need
to
be
repaired.
K
So
there's
some
misinformation
out
there
about
about
the
heat
savings.
The
counselor
mclaren
mentioned
again,
it's
it's,
it's
very
small,
the
difference
and
the
and
and
compared
to
the
value,
the
heritage
value
that
it
brings
it.
It
is
completely
bordering
on,
like
I
say,
misinformation,
the
truth
is
these
properties
need
to
be
maintained
to
a
certain
standard
and-
and
you
need
to
know
that
getting
into
it-
you
shouldn't
acquire
one.
If
you
don't
have
that
in
mind
and
you're
the
steward
for
that
property.
K
For
the
time
that
you're
there,
which
is
maybe
one
generation
at
most,
these
properties
will
outlive
you
and
everybody
else
in
this
meeting
by
a
hundred
years
or
more
right.
Some
of
them
are,
are
over
200
years
old
right.
So,
if
you
don't
understand
the
stewardship
aspect
of
heritage
conservation,
you
don't
really
get
very
far
and
that
any
of
this
talk
of
of
of
heritage
windows,
being
you
know,
an
extra
burden
yeah,
that's
why
we
have
heritage
grants.
I'm
sorry
if
I
sound
a
little
frustrated,
but
I
heard
this
for
four
years.
K
The
arguments
like
this
at
heritage
committee
and
it's
very
clear
to
me.
What
is
the
right
thing
to
do
and
the
right
thing
to
do
here
is
to
follow
the
expert's
recommendation.
This
was
voted
on
by
the
heritage
committee
council.
Roosevelt
was
there
and
you
know,
he's
presenting
a
minority
opinion
right
now,
which
is
his
right.
K
R
Thank
you,
mayor
patterson
through
you,
I've
said
it
before
so
I'll,
say
it
again.
I'm
a
rookie
on
this
type
of
thinking.
I
haven't
been
on
heritage
committee.
So
a
quick
question
for
miss
campbell.
What
are
the
potential
consequences
for
the
homeowner
if
they
decide
in
their
estimation,
they
do
not
want
to
follow
the
recommendation.
How
does
that
play
out
from
the
city's
perspective?
Is
it
a
fine,
a
bylaw
infringement?
What
does
that
look
like
if
they
say
you
know
what
I've
decided?
AB
Thank
you
and
through
you
I
will
start
and
certainly
invite
commissioner
agnew,
who
has
more
information
about
things
like
the
amps
and
other
monetary
processes.
Through
the
building
acts
within
heritage
works,
we
can
certainly
pers
we
can
we
can.
We
could
follow
up
and
we
could
pursue
through
legal
processes
recourse
on
the
matter.
You
know
the
city
can
complete
the
work
on
behalf
of
an
owner
per
se,
and
then
you
know
charge
back,
but
these
are
not
normal
processes
within
heritage.
AB
AB
X
Thank
you
and
to
you
mayor
patterson.
Certainly
the
city
does
have
avenues
they
can
pursue
if
there
is
like
a
willful
destruction
of
something,
that's
a
part
for
property,
in
particular,
an
attribute
that's
identified
as
something
that's
protected.
There's
different,
there's
different
mechanisms
we
would
have.
X
But,
as
you
know,
as
dr
campbell
said,
our
first
position
is
always
to
try
to
work
with
people
to
build
goodwill,
education
and
stewardship
practices,
because
it's
it's
just
a
really
important
part
of
building
the
culture
of
of
of
respect
for
heritage
and
and
to
have
it
not
be
something
that
people
are
afraid
of
and
to
take
away.
Some
of
those
fears
and
anxieties,
as
counselor
us
alluded
to,
because
we
essentially
do
need
people
to
become
stewards
of
these
properties
and
continue
the
investment
and
the
pride
of
ownership.
X
So
it
is
a
balance,
but
certainly
you
know
if
we
did
encounter
something
where
there
was
willful
or
knowing
describe
destruction
of
a
property.
The
city
does
have
legal
mechanisms
that
are
available
to
them.
Fortunately,
we
haven't
had
to
do
that
to
a
great
extent,
but
they
are
available
if
circumstances
arise
and
it's
justified
and
required.
R
Just
ask
a
supplemental
and
again:
please
forgive
me
like
genuinely
this
is
very
high
level,
but
is
the
heritage
status
registered
on
the
deed?
In
other
words,
if
a
person
buys
a
heritage
property,
do
they
fall
under
all
the
the
potential
regulations
that
you
just
spoke
to
miss
agnew?
How
does
that
get
transferred
to
them
as
they
become
the
owner
of
a
heritage,
property.
X
Those
are
things
that
should
search
prior
to
someone
making
a
real
estate
purchase
but
to
jen's
point:
that's
where
you
know
we're
we're
sending
out
letters
and
we're
trying
to
build
awareness
in
the
community,
because
some
people
don't
know
exactly
what
they
own,
especially
if
it's
been
a
new
purchase
and
they
didn't
do
their
due
diligence
or
it's
a
generational
property.
That's
come
down
to
the
family
and
and
again
people
not
really
being
connected
to
what's
going
on
in
the
city
over
time.
X
It
does
happen,
so
it's
always
reaching
out
and
trying
to
provide
that
information.
But
yes,
there
are
certainly
ways
that
it
is
tied
to
the
title
of
the
property
so
that
there
is
that
transfer
from
from
property
owner
over
time.
It's
not
just
with
the
original
person
that
was
owning
it
at
the
time
that
there
was
a
heritage
protection
that
was
put
on
the
property.
AB
A
D
Thank
you
worship,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
that.
I'm
like
councillor
kylie,
I
I
haven't,
sat
on
heritage,
and
so
I
do
defer
to
counselor
strategic
experience
in
this
regard,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
myself
a
little
bit
better.
So
who
sets
the
standard
for
this?
So
you
know
I'm
just
by
way
of
example,
if
you
know
would
an
owner
of
a
property
in
belleville
be
held
to
the
same
standard
as
an
owner
of
a
property
in
kingston,
or
do
we
do
that
locally
or
is
that?
AB
Thank
you
and
through
you,
there
are
guiding
principles
both
at
the
national
and
provincial
levels
that
are
applied
in
the
assessment
of
heritage
properties
and
alterations
to
them.
We
tend
to
refer
to
them
in
our
reports
of
the
standards
and
guidelines,
but
there
are
also
specific
local
guidelines.
AB
They
can
be
established
through
things
like
a
part:
five,
which
is
a
heritage
conservation
district
which
in
keep
within
kingston,
which
would
specify
what
could
and
should
happen
within
those
properties
specific
to
their
context
and
value
in
our
community,
and
then
also
we
have
policies
as
well,
and
we
in
fact
have
a
windows
policy
at
the
city
that
deals
specifically
and
is
relevant
to
every
discussion.
We
have
about
windows
and
the
reason
we
have
a
windows
policy
is
because
windows
are
one
of
these
key
elements
of
heritage.
AB
D
You
know
it's
interesting
because
I
you
know
this
is
strictly
anecdotal,
but
over
the
years
I've
certainly
had
lots
of
conversations
with
people
who
would
say.
Oh
my
god,
the
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
buy
a
heritage
property
because
of
the
restrictions
and
the
expense
and
all
of
that
sort
of
thing.
D
AB
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
that's
a
really
great
question.
I
I
certainly
can't
speak
to
every
property,
owner's
degree
of
awareness
or
research
that
they
apply
to
the
property,
but
as
commissioner
egg,
you
said
in
a
real
estate
transaction
of
that
kind,
you
would
be
made
aware
that
you
had
a
property
and
we
certainly
do
receive
outreach
and
calls
from
from
individuals
who
are
looking
to
purchase
new
homes.
Who
ask
us
you
know:
can
I
please
see
a
copy
of
the
bylaw
and
the
designation
on
my
property?
You
know
here
are
some
thoughts.
AB
I
have
ahead
of
the
purchase
on
how
I
may
want
to
work
with
that
property
or
alter
it
down
the
line,
so
staff
are
always
available
to
have
those
supportive
calls,
and
I
would
say
that
is
increasingly
more
common.
I
think,
as
as
everyone
sort
of
understands
the
real
estate,
perhaps
with
a
little
bit
a
greater
degree
of
investigation,
pre-purchase.
D
AB
Yes
and
through
you
again,
can't
speak
to
all
properties
at
once,
but
we
do
know
that
the
impact
values
for
heritage
homes
tend
to
be
higher,
and
certainly
the
value
on
heritage
properties
is
in
many
ways.
Immeasurable
and
people
who
are
interested
in
them
certainly
do
pursue
them
in
the
market
and
look
to
buy
them.
You
know
others
perhaps
avoid
them,
because
they
don't
want
to
understand
or
be
involved
with
that
care
and
maintenance,
but
we
certainly
don't
see
a
large
amount
of
heritage
properties
hanging
in
the
market.
D
H
To
jordy,
thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
mayor,
I
really
appreciated
all
the
questions
that
counsellors
raised
and
asked
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
this.
The
conversation
around
this
ad
heritage
was
quite
challenging
because,
as
counselor
used
to
have
said,
it
is
a
man's.
It's
not
somebody
who
bought
a
beautiful
heritage,
building
and
and
and
with
it,
took
on
the
responsibility
of
a
heritage
home.
H
However,
as
dr
campbell
explained,
that
there
are
policies
around
windows
and
heritage
windows
actually
add
a
really
big
part
of
the
character
of
a
heritage
home,
it
really
does
change
a
heritage
from
when
the
windows
are
changed
to
modern
windows.
But
what
made
this
conversation
so
difficult?
It
was
the
the
prohibitive
quote
that
they
received
and
I
believe
that
they
only
receive
one
quote,
but
in
the
in
the
oh,
there
are
numerous
clauses,
as
dr
campbell
explained,
that
gives
various
options.
H
So
I
just
want
to
check
and
did
they
get
any
more
quote
since,
or
are
they
still
just
looking
at
one
at
the
one
extremely
expensive
quote
and
are
there's
their
plans
to
actually
follow
the
several
steps
that
you
have,
which
includes
repairing
and
not
necessarily
that
costly
kind
of
connection
that
it
created?
All
of
this
fear
the
cost
of
it,
which
may
not
even
materialize.
AB
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
we
haven't
worked
through
this
all
with
the
property
owner.
We
certainly
have
spoken
with
them
at
a
high
level
about
the
options
that
are
ahead
of
them.
Our
most
recent
discussions
have
really
been
waiting
for
council's
decision
so
that
we
can
appropriately,
then
advise
them
based
on
the
direction
that
we
receive
and
the
approval
that
would
be
coming
through
council,
but
once
that
happens,
certainly
we
have
discussed
what,
as
I've
outlined
to
council.
We
believe
those
discussions
need
to
include
moving
forward
and
you.
AB
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
mayor,
we
have
already
shared
with
them
the
process
of
applying
for
the
heritage
properties
grant
with
the
city
of
kingston
that
grant
application
is
due
on
march
31st.
It's
then
assessed
based
on
the
applicant
pool,
and
if
they
were
successful,
they
would
receive
up
to
five
thousand
dollars,
and
so
that
is
the
process
that
we
have
available
through
the
city's
mechanisms.
H
H
There
are
numerous
approaches
that
the
staff's
recommendation
mentions,
including
repairs
and,
and
what
we
had
at
the
time
of
the
decision
was
also
just
simply
just
one
quote,
and
and
anybody
who's
done
any
kind
of
building
and
renovations
knows
that
you
need
more
than
at
least
at
least
three
quotes
so
that
you
actually
know
what
is
what
it
is
that
you're
faced
with
again
on
heritage,
our
job
is
actually
to
protect
heritage.
So
I
will
support
staff's
recommendation.
A
A
Okay,
no
questions,
information
reports,
members
of
council.
We
have
no
information
there,
miscellaneous
business
number
one
move
by
councillor,
osanic
secured
by
council
mclaren
that
sir
counts
would
be
appointed
and
act
as
chair
to
the
school
pedestrian
safety
working
group.
So
I
will
open
up
the
sports
for
anyone
that
wishes
to
put
their
name
forward
for
for
the
working
group.
A
A
L
G
G
Thanks
your
bishop
yeah,
so
the
question
really
is
more.
I
mean
I'm
very
happy
to
see
this
is
moving
quickly,
but
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
bit
of
a
sense
of
what
will
be
happening
or
do
we
get.
I
mean
we've
approved
the
terms
of
reference,
but
you
know
what
what
will
be
coming
of
this
group.
It
would
be
good
to
know
just
a
little
bit
about
the
timelines.
A
AA
G
Okay,
so
I'm
just
curious,
then
I
guess
this
is
to
staff
through
you,
mayor,
patterson,
so
all
the
previous
work
that
has
been
done
regarding
school
safety,
safety
in
school
zones,
pedestrians,
etc.
That
has
filtered
through
to
staff
from
council
or,
however,
will
that
somehow
be
incorporated
in
some
of
the
discussions
at
the
outset
of
this
group
with
this
working
group?
Or
will
there
be?
AA
Thank
you,
counselor,
holland
and
through
your
worship,
so
all
of
the
work
that
has
been
done.
So
the
intention
will
be
that
that
all
is
part
and
parcel
of
the
working
group
mandate.
There's
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
communications.
There's
been
a
lot
of
suggestions
that
have
come
in
since
the
announcement
of
the
group
and
even
prior
to
that.
AA
Of
course,
all
of
that
is
getting
filtered
in
through
the
transportation
group
and
director
sample
will
be
ensuring
that
the
working
group
is
getting
all
of
that
information,
because
it
is
a
multitude
of
schools.
We're
getting
concerns
about.
So
all
of
that
work
will
form
part
and
parcel
of
the
entire
scope
of
the
working
group.
AA
L
We
can
still
have
one
counselor
chair,
but
it's
a
lot
for
one
counselor.
You
know
to
try
to
filter
all
the
information
and
bring
it
back
to
june.
It
might
be
better
to
have
two
counselors
on
the
working
group,
which
is
what
I'm
getting
at,
and
I
just
wondered
if
I
could
have
the
assistance
of
the
clerk's
office
to
figure
out
if
we
could
actually
have
then
two
counselors
on
this
working
group.
If
council
supports
that
or
not
okay,
so.
A
Then
put
your
emotion
back
on
the
floor
that
we
passed
and
amend
that
motion
and
pass
that
motion
as
amended
then
return
to
this
miscellaneous
business
motion
and
then
this
motion
to
add
a
second
answer,
so
it
can
be
done.
It's
just.
It
requires
a
few
steps,
so
so
it
can
be
done,
but
that
would
be
the
first
step.
If
you
want
to
go
down
that
route,
then
I
can.
I
can
we
can
sort
of
walk
you
through
it.
A
So
here
would
be
so
here
would
be
step
one.
So
first
first,
I
need
a
motion
to
wave
clauses,
13.29
and
13.34
of
our
procedural
bylaw
to
allow
for
a
new
motion
to
be
put
on
the
floor
on
this
pawn.
So
so
it's
moved
by
counselor
aesthetic.
Is
there
a
sector
set
in
maximum
okay?
So
this
requires
a
two-thirds
vote
to
pass.
A
A
A
A
L
C
A
A
A
Now
we
will
need
an
amendment
so
okay,
so
here
I'm
gonna
have
to
clarify
something
here.
So
the
motion
the
motion
is
amended
has
that
a
certain
counselor
will
be
appointed
and
act
as
chair
for
the
school
pedestrian
working
group.
So
then
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
add
a
second
clause
that
would
say
that
counselor
blank
also
be
appointed
to
the
school
pedestrian
safety
working
group.
A
A
A
Yeah
I
mean
you
can
nominate
somebody
else
or
you
can
volunteer
yourself
so
councilor
hill
you're,
okay,
to
put
your
name
forward
to
that,
okay,
councilman
mclaren.
Did
you
want
to
put
your
name
forward
for
for
the
no
okay?
So
that's
great,
so
no
vote
required
and
then
for
the
second
blank
council,
mclaren
you're,
putting
your
name
forward
for
that
right
that
wasn't
so
bad.
A
It
only
took
like
six
minutes
to
work
through
all
those
steps.
It's
good,
okay,
very
good.
So
that's
miscellaneous
motion
number
one.
There
is
a
second
miscellaneous
business
item
that,
notwithstanding
section
3.1.4
subsection,
5,
first
capital
place,
elimination
policy,
council,
point
of
order
council's
job.
A
I
I
will
just
clarify
that
the
motion
that
we
passed
earlier
to
light
up
city
hall
with
in
blue
and
yellow
for
the
month
of
march,
specified
for
all
days
where
there
was
not
other
otherwise
an
illumination
scheduled.
So
this
elimination
subject
to
council
approval
has
already
been
scheduled.
So
this
would
still
revolt.
So
it's
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
It's
not
contrary
to
the
earlier
motion
in
the
past.
A
Madame
do
we
need
a
mover
and
a
second
or
for
that
yeah.
So,
can
I
just
ask
for
a
mover
and
a
seconder
for
that?
Miscellaneous
business
item
can
move
by
cancer
hutchinson.
Second,
if
I
cancel
dougherty
okay,
so
now
we
will
call
the
vote
on
those
two
miscellaneous
business
items:
okay,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's.
G
Oh
great,
thank
you
all
right,
so
I
mean
the
motion
so
moved
by
mayor
patterson
seconded
by
councillor
kylie.
Whereas
kingston
city
council
has
been
meeting
remotely
through
electronic
meetings
since
march
24
2020
because
of
the
cobit
19
pandemic
and
whereas
the
province
of
ontario's
reopening
plan
under
the
roadmap
to
reopen
continues
to
progress.
The
city
of
kingston
has
begun
to
reopen
its
facilities
to
the
public
and
whereas
on
february
21st
2022,
the
city's
state
of
emergency
declaration
was
officially
terminated
and
whereas
the
public
health
indicators
continue
to
improve.
G
A
So
we
made
the
decision
to
to
switch
to
a
virtual
format
for
our
council
meetings,
and
we
have
done
so
ever
since
the
last
last
two
years.
So
I
would
suggest
that
now,
today,
ontario
has
has
now
lifted
all
capacity
limits.
Most
overt
restrictions
have
now
been
lifted
on
the
other
side
of
the
omicron
variant,
as
we
transition
now
from
pandemic
to
endemic.
I
think
that
now
is
the
right
time
for
another
moment
of
leadership,
and
in
this
case
it
has
to
transition
back
to
in
person.
A
A
The
only
thing
I
will
say
is
that,
although
this
motion
would
certainly
encourage
members
of
council
to
come
back
in
person,
nobody
would
be
forced
to
do
so.
In
fact,
dr
glass
was
very
clear
that
a
hybrid
option
is
needed
for
council,
particularly
if,
if
you're
physically
unable
to
attend-
or
if
you
have
symptoms,
then
joining
joining
virtually
is,
is
appropriate
and
the
right
thing
to
do
so
so
just
to
make
that
point
very
clear
and
then
the
other
point
that
I
will
say
is.
A
I
know
that
there's
lots
of
other
details
to
be
worked
out
in
terms
of
standing
committees
and
all
those
details,
and
so
so
the
motion
is
is
really
not
trying
to
get
into
that
level
of
detail.
It
simply
provides
direction
for
staff
to
be
able
to
work
with
those
details
and
come
back
to
cancel
with
with
a
plan
for
that.
L
A
L
Okay,
that's
great,
and
then
my
second
question
just
for
clarification
for
anyone
listening
because
I
was
a
little
bit
confused
at
the
beginning.
So
if
we
come
back
to
council
chambers
on
march
22nd,
two
days
later,
we
have
like
planning
committee,
for
example.
So
that's
the
standing
committee
and
so
all
the
standing
committees
remain
virtual
for
the
time
being,
until
further
down
into
q2,
we
can
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
Is
that
correct.
G
I
I
Councilor
hutchinson
will
probably
remember
this.
The
only
meeting
I've
missed
in
the
last
decade,
I
was
on
my
post
retirement
vacation
in
in
italy
and
councilor
hutchinson's
motion
to
put
more
funding
into
affordable
housing
failed
by
one
vote,
and
I
felt
I
was
felt
very
badly
about
that
and
I'm
just
wondering
considering
the
fact
that
we
all
at
various
times
in
our
busy
lives,
may
miss
a
council
meeting.
Is
there?
I
I
K
K
That
is
not
changing,
so
they
did.
They
did
not
make
any
changes
today,
and
I
was
very
relieved
about
that.
Having
you
know,
I
have
repeated
exposure
to
that
environment.
It
was
a
great
relief
to
see
that
the
hospital
was
able
to
maintain
the
protections
that
we
have
up
until
now
that
have
protected
us
and
there's
no
doubt
because
we
got
through
two
years
of
pandemic
dealing
for
often
for
cove
and
positive
patients,
and
I
for
one
never
actually
got
infected.
K
So
so
I
would
say
that
that
the
hospital
has
continued,
but
we,
as
a
council,
the
you
know,
the
13
of
us
could
easily
meet
in
the
council
chamber
safely,
as
is
described
in
this
motion,
especially
if
everybody's
vaccinated.
So
I
have
a
question
to
staff
about,
because
it's
not
maybe
common
knowledge
about
the
vaccination
policy
of
the
city.
Is
there
a
vaccine
mandate
for
members
of
council,
or
is
it
possible
that
a
counselor
could
attend
in
person
and
be
unvaccinated.
P
Thank
you
and
through
you,
madame
deputy
mayor,
so
we
do
have
a
policy
and
it
applies
to
members
of
council
as
well,
so
members
of
council
either
have
to
be
fully
vaccinated
or
they
can
actually
be
tested
before
coming
to
city
hall
for
meetings.
So
the
same
rules
would
apply
to
members
of
council
as
we
currently
use
for
our
city
staff,
which
is
basically,
if
they're
not
fully
vaccinated.
They
do
have
to
do
a
rapid
test
before
coming
into
city
hall.
K
Okay,
so
so
so
so
an
unvaccinated
member
of
council
can
attend,
but
as
long
as
they
take
a
rapid
test
first,
which
is
the
city
policy,
I
knew
that,
but
I
wanted
it
just
stated
for
the
public
record.
In
other
words,
the
city
doesn't
have
a
strict
vaccine
mandate.
What
we
have
is
an
extra
step
that
non-vaccinated
people
have
to
go
through
to
attend
in
person.
K
K
So
I
I
think
that
the
risk
is
very
low,
I'm
comfortable
with
it
as
a
healthcare
professional.
I
will
support
the
motion,
but
the
the
there
is
no
magic
wand
that
you
can
wave
on
march.
First
that
suddenly
changes
anything
the
virus
isn't
listening
to
any
of
this
conversation,
the
virus
is
still
out
there.
The
virus
is
still
infecting
people
and
the
virus
will
still
kill
people.
If
you
let
your
guard
down,
so
that
is,
I
think,
the
messaging
we
have
to
stick
to.
K
If
we're
we're
going
to
do
this,
we
have
to
accompany
it
with
clear
messaging
that
precautions
need
to
continue
like
the
hospital
has
done
and
like
we
would
be
doing
with
the
masks
until
the
mask
mandate
is
removed
and
also
the
distancing
and
everything
else
hand
washing,
because
you
can't
just
snap
your
fingers
and
pretend
that
the
virus
disappeared,
because
that's
not
actually
the
reality.
Thank
you.
N
It's
just
a
question
about
one
of
the
resolved
clauses
in
which
it
indicates
that
we
would
do
hybrid
meetings
and
see,
if
that's
fine,
but
are
we
making
a
decision
about
that
for
the
future?
Are
we
open
for
that?
Coming
up
for
discussion,
I
recognize
we
have
to
move
forward
and
see
what
we
can
do
and
see
what
the
results
are.
N
C
A
Thank
you,
so
the
resolve
clause
there
is
basically
asking
staff
to
come
back
to
council
with
with
the
transition
plan,
for
what
hybrid
meetings
could
look
like.
So
I
would
suggest
that
that
would
be.
That
would
be
the
time
where
council
can
ask
questions
and
ultimately
it
would
be
subject
to
council
approval,
so
so
it
is.
Certainly,
I
think
if
you
have
concerns
god's
interested,
I
think
that
would
be
the
appropriate
time
to
be
able
to
discuss
and.
N
D
D
In
the
beginning
days
of
this,
I
I
expected
that
you
know
there
would
be
a
declaration
day
that
this
pandemic
is
over
and
somewhere
in
the
distance.
We
would
hear
the
trumpets
blaring
and
we
would
all
kind
of
march,
you
know,
hand
in
hand
back
into
city
hall.
I
guess
that
clearly,
that's
not
going
to
be
the
way
this
ends,
but
I
do
think
you
know,
despite
that,
and
it's
been
very
trying.
D
I
think
the
worst
part
of
this
pandemic
has
been
the
last
couple
of
months,
and
this,
I
think,
is
really
a
hopeful
sign
to
the
community
that
we
can
manage
this-
that
we
can
begin
to.
You
know
get
back
to
some
level
of
normal.
I
certainly
agree
with
what
counselor
stroud
said.
You
know
this
is
not
does
not
mean
that
the
that
the
virus
is
not
here.
D
It
is
here
we're
still
going
to
have
to
manage
that
and
work
with
it,
but
we
are
clearly
learning
how
to
do
that,
and-
and
I
think
you
know
it's
a
good
example
to
our
community-
that
we're
with
them.
You
know
most
of
our
community
has-
and
I
think
council
sanik
talked
about
it
earlier
today-
that
people
have
gone
back
into
the
workplace.
They've
gone
back
into
their
schools.
D
Merchants
are
starting
to
open
again
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
happen.
I
hope
it's
not
hasty
what
we
see
happen
in
the
community,
I'm
glad
to
see
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
use
the
the
rules
that
have
been
laid
out
for
staff.
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
us,
but
I
do
think
it's
an
important
moment,
a
hopeful
moment
in
our
community,
as
we
kind
of
begin
to
emerge
from
this,
and
so
I
I
really
endorse
this
and
and
welcome
it,
and
certainly
I
will
be
supporting
it.
P
G
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
tiffany
mayor
holland.
So
with
that
we'll
move
to
new
motion
number
two:
a
move
by
council
kylie
seconded
by
councillor
hill,
whereas
patri
inc
submitted
an
official
plan,
amendment
zoning
by
law,
amendment
and
draft
plan,
a
subdivision
application
on
december
27
2017
for
the
property
located
at
two
river
street
and
50
orchard
street
and
referred
to
as
the
former
david
cannery.
A
The
council
direct
planning
staff
to
hold
a
third
public
meeting
for
the
official
amendment.
Zoning
by
law,
amendment
and
draft
plan
subdivision
applications
for
the
property
located
at
two
river
street
and
50
orchard
streets,
known
as
the
former
davis
tannery
prior
to
bringing
forth
a
comprehensive
report
to
planning
committee
answer.
Kylie.
You
have
the
floor.
R
Thank
you
so
much
mayor,
patterson
and
through
you
I'll,
be
brief
in
my
introductory
comments
and
then
perhaps
conclude
with
a
few
additional
ones.
If
questions
come
up
from
colleagues
here
tonight,
but
in
short,
as
chair
of
the
planning
committee
and
with
the
support
of
the
vice
chair
of
the
planning
committee,
it's
our
estimation
that,
due
to
the
complexity
of
the
file
and
due
to
the
fact
that,
as
we've
heard
from
staff,
there
are
various
policy
considerations
that
are
perhaps
unique,
if
not
in
kingston,
maybe
across
all
of
ontario.
R
In
what
we're
dealing
with
here.
We
think
that
it'd
be
wise
to
have
an
opportunity
to
hear
once
more
from
the
applicant
and
to
give
an
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public,
as
it
says
in
the
motion
to
voice
further
opinions
on
how
we
move
forward.
So
all
we're
asking
for
is
that
opportunity
formally
through
a
public
meeting
it's
beyond
what
the
planning
act
requires.
That
much
is
clear
and
that's
why
we're
seeking
council
direction
to
do
that
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
R
I
know
that
many
of
you
have
received
a
number
of
very
well
considered
and
evidence-based
suggestions
and
comments
on
the
file
and
we're
just
hoping
to
have
that
opportunity
to
air
them
going
forward
before
we
see
the
comprehensive.
So
I
hope
that
we
can
all
vote
in
favor
of
this
for
some
more
public
participation
and
again
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
the
applicant
on
some
of
the
the
nuances
and
the
challenges
that
we
might
face,
making
a
final
decision.
I
As
I
asked
previously
I,
since
this
is
a
non-statutory
meeting,
this
is
a
question
for
ms
agnew,
we'll
still
abide
by
the
notification
rules
that
we
normally
do
for
for
any
of
our
public
meetings.
So
we'll
contact
people
who
have
written
to
us
on
this
topic
and
those
within
120
meters
is
that
accurate.
X
Thank
you
and
three
mayor
patterson,
that's
correct
cancer.
Neil
so,
should
council
support
this
motion
tonight
staff
are
prepared
to
be
able
to
move
forward
to
give
proper
notice
of
this
public
meeting
for
march
24th,
so
there'll
be
notices
that
will
be
going
out
20
days
in
advance.
They're
circulated
to
people
within
a
certain
proximity
to
the
property,
plus
anybody
that's
expressed
their
opinion
before
on
the
public
record,
either
by
writing
or
a
verbal
submission,
and
we
also
put
courtesy
notices
in
the
wake
standard
and
advertisements
on
the
website.