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From YouTube: Kingston, Ontario - City Council - December 6, 2022
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City Council meeting from December 6, 2022. For full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3F6Pgtj
A
A
A
B
B
As
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
Kingston
I
offer
these
words
in
the
spirit
of
this
Gathering,
let
us
bring
our
good
minds
and
hearts
together
as
one
to
honor
and
celebrate
these
traditional
lands
as
a
Gathering
Place
of
the
original
peoples
and
their
ancestors
who
are
entrusted
to
care
for
Mother
Earth.
Since
time
immemorial.
B
So
with
that
as
an
official
call
to
order
Madam
Deputy
clerk,
do
we
have
a
quorum.
B
B
All
this
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried
okay.
Next,
we'll
move
to
the
approval
of
the
addeds.
We
have
two
sets
of
addeds,
which
we
will
look
to
approve
together.
The
first
added
has
so
there's
between
the
two
of
them:
a
combination
of
two
delegations
into
one
plus
the
addition
of
a
third
delegation,
and
then
we
also
have
an
amendment
to
to
report
number
one,
an
information
report
and
some
Communications
kind
of
a
mover
and
a
second
or
for
the
audits.
B
D
Thank
you
for
worshiping
through
you,
I
Ryan
Bowman
of
the
Council
of
the
corporation,
the
city
of
Kingston,
declare
my
pecuniary
interest
in
the
matter
of
Clause
2
report
number
three.
As
an
employee
of
utilities
Kingston,
it
may
be
perceived
out
of
a
conflict
with
report
to
Clause
3,
insofar
as
it
may
relate
to
utilities
Kingston.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
There
are
no
other
disclosures,
but
Canary
interest.
We
will
move
on.
We
do
have
one
presentation
this
evening.
It's
my
pleasure
to
be
able
to
formally
announce
the
poet
laureate
for
the
2022-2026
term
of
council,
so
the
city's
Poet
Laureate
position
recognizes
and
honors
individual
achievement
in
poetry
to
create
a
spokesperson
for
the
literary
arts
in
our
city
and
to
Foster
expression
of
the
life
of
our
community.
B
B
B
So
I
am
happy
to
announce
that
the
city's
next
Poet
Laureate
is
sadika.
De
Meyer
sadika
was
appointed
to
this
role
by
a
working
group
which
included
the
outgoing
Poet
Laureate,
writers,
Publishers
and
teachers.
All
the
strong
knowledge
of
poetry,
sadikit
de
mayor,
was
born
in
Amsterdam
to
a
Dutch
Kenyan
Pakistani
Afghani
family
and
moved
to
Canada.
As
a
child.
Sadiq
has
established
a
reputation
both
nationally
as
a
governor,
General's,
literary
Award
winner
and
nominee
for
other
prestigious
Awards
and
in
this
city
is
a
dedicated
and
talented
artist.
B
Sadika
Works
closely
with
the
Kingston
Community
by
participating
in
events
providing
mentorship
activities
and
engaging
with
projects.
Her
work
is
deeply
rooted
in
her
lived
experience
and
she
has
proven
her
skill
at
composing
poetry
for
specific
occasions,
including
the
poetry
and
the
time
of
a
pandemic
project
and
the
ringa
of
a
distant
spring.
B
Okay,
so
with
that
we
will
move
on.
We
have
two
delegations
in
our
agenda.
So
first
up
we
have
Megan
Knott
and
Tim
Peter,
so
Megan
Knott
executive,
director
of
Tourism
Kingston
and
Tim
Peter
will
appear
before
Council
to
speak,
to
Clause
2
report
number
two
received
from
the
CAO
with
respect
to
the
Kingston
public
Mark
market
operations,
services,
and
just
a
reminder
to
our
delegates
that
you
have
five
minutes
to
speak
and
then
we
will
open
up
the
floor
to
questions
from
members
of
council.
It's
not
Mr.
E
Thanks
mayor
Patterson
and
hello
members
of
council
I'm
here
in
delegation
to
speak
to
report
23-002
so
tonight,
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
few
points
as
it
relates
to
this
report.
Tourism
Kingston
obviously
has
been
heavily
involved
in
Partnerships
and
the
creation
of
several
Community
strategies,
most
which
you've
heard
at
Council
before
to
improve
experiential,
culinary
transform
public
spaces
and
develop
our
night
economy.
E
Since
2018
tourism
Kingston
has
been
involved
in
community
conversations,
multitude
of
them
applying
to
these
strategies
and
improvements
specifically
to
the
public
market
targeted
towards
the
use
of
the
space,
managing
Public
Health
regulations
and
using
stakeholder
feedback
to
create
an
engaging
and
experiential
product
product
for
local
and
visitors
alike.
The
Kingston
film
department,
which
is
part
of
Tourism
Kingston,
is
very
adaptable
and
has,
and
will
continue
to
work
with
Market
operators
in
future
on
the
use
of
Springer,
Market,
Square
and
Specialty
markets.
E
As
all
of
us
know,
specialty
markets,
especially
this
time
of
year
being
holiday,
night
economy,
local
and
experiential
are
quite
frankly
attractions
that
play
a
significant
role
in
the
visitor
economy
and
with
loving
spoonfuls
at
the
home.
I
believe
we
will
see
added
value
to
the
experiences
of
our
guests,
local
and
non
Tim
over
to
you.
F
Thanks
Megan
Council,
your
mayor,
mayor,
Patterson,
yeah,
I
I,
to
add
to
what
Megan
is
speaking
to
I'll
sort
of
bring
it
down
to
more
of
a
experiential
perspective,
I
I'm
sure,
as
most
of
you
as
Kingston
residents,
have
have
noticed
a
a
dramatic
decline
in
vendors
at
the
market
in
Market
Square
over
the
past
few
years,
having
been
a
restaurateur
in
the
area
for
for
22
years
now,
I've,
you
know
we're
right
around
the
corner
and
have
witnessed
it.
F
There's
really.
You
know
no
figure-pointing
due,
but
there
has
been
talk
of
change
for
well
over
a
decade
in
that
market.
That
has
not
happened
with
this
new
bylaw
proposition
for
Loving
Spoonful
to
to
take
over
the
operations
of
the
market
is,
is
great
news
and
especially
with
the
Mandate
that
it
becomes
a
farmer's
market
over
a
public
market.
F
So
if
you're
not
aware,
both
of
those
designations
are
really
different,
so
in
a
public
market,
for
example,
our
chefs
would
do
food
demonstrations
at
the
market,
but
we
would
have
to
bring
our
food
in
from
our
certified
kitchen
to
give
to
people
so
for
they
they
would
cook
food
on
a
barbecue
in
the
market,
but
couldn't
feed
it
to
people
that,
because
of
the
public
health
restrictions,
I'm
sure
that
all
you
know,
that's
just
one
example
and
I'm
sure
that
you're
all
aware
of
also
how
much
the
Memorial
Center
Market
is
flourished
and
most
of
the
farmers
from
the
public
market
have
started
to
sell
their
exclusively
and
again
not
finger
pointing,
but
I
talked
to
all
of
those
Farmers.
F
We
deal
with
them
in
our
restaurants
and,
and
they
just
all
feel
the
changes
have
been
too
little
too
late,
but
are
excited
by
this
proposition,
the
key
being
trans,
the
the
transformation
to
a
farmer's
market
over
a
public
market
that
opens
up
a
whole
world
of
possibilities
from
Craft
brewery
selling
their
ciders
being
sold
there
local
food
being
prepared
and
sold
there
and
to
make
the
market
what
it
was
before
and
I
I'm
sure
you
all
remember
was
like
we
had
rows
of
farmers
down
there.
F
We
had
our
chefs
going
down
with
little
trolleys
to
buy
produce
for
their
specials
for
the
weekend.
None
of
that
exists
anymore
and
and
the
Really.
The
reason
is
that
the
restrictions
that
have
been
put
on
it
have
been
unattainable
untenable
for
for
Farmers
to
really
stay
and
be
we've
made
some
changes.
F
We
had
a
tourism
working
group
recommendations
a
couple
years
ago,
where
some
great
things
were
done,
but
it's
really
that
designation
of
becoming
a
true
farmers
market
that
matters
and
if
there's
any
organization
that
we
could
put
this
in
the
hands
of
Loving
Spoonful
is
probably
the
best
in
town.
They
have
great
relationships
with
local
farmers.
They
have
a
great
mission
of
food
security
and
access
to
good,
fresh
food
for
our
whole
community
and
I
could
see
them
just
building
and
building
on
this
whole
model.
B
Okay,
thank
you
both
with
that
we'll
move
to
our
third,
or
rather
our
second
delegation.
This
evening
we
will
invite
Ayla
Fenton
from
Loving
Spoonful,
who
is
here
to
speak
again
to
Clause
number
two
of
report
number
two
from
the
CAO
with
respect
to
the
Kingston
Public
Market
operation
services.
Welcome!
Yes,
it's
perfect
hi.
G
Everyone
nice
to
see
you
all
and
nice
to
see
some
new
faces
here
and
I
just
want
to
start
by
thanking
Council
and
City
staff
for
all
your
support
and
also
oh
they're
gone,
but
Megan
and
Tim
also
for
supporting
this
process
all
along
because,
as
some
of
you
know
this
is
this-
has
been
kind
of
two
years
in
the
making
of
you
know
working
towards
revitalization
of
the
market,
and
then
this
time
last
year,
I
think
I
was
here
speaking
to
Council
on
Zoom,
about
the
requester
proposal
being
put
out
and
ultimately,
loving
spinful
did
decide
to
put
in
a
proposal
to
the
RFP
process,
Loving
Spoonful
for
anybody
who
might
not
be
aware
of
we,
we
were
originally
founded
way
back
in
2008
as
a
collaboration
between
a
number
of
different
social
justice
organizations.
G
Initially,
our
Focus
was
really
on
just
reclaiming
food
waste
reclaiming
and
redistributing
food
waste.
Our
programs
have
grown
hugely
over
the
years
to
expand
into
a
much
broader
Mission
around
developing
and
advancing
food
sovereignty
in
Kingston.
So
to
us
that
means
supporting
local
producers
as
much
as
we
can,
and
by
that
I
mean
local
farmers,
but
also
Community,
Gardens
and
so
on.
So
we
have
a
number
of
programs:
Community
Kitchens
our
grow
project
in
schools,
the
Community
Gardens
Network,
which
is
another
partnership
with
the
city
of
Kingston.
G
Just
this
past
year
we
launched
the
community
training
Farm,
which
is
also
a
partnership,
a
very
significant
partnership
with
the
city
of
Kingston,
which
has
been
a
great
great
work
for
developing
and
training
new
and
young
farmers
and
our
local
food
Access
program,
which
works
to
get
all
of
that
good
local
food
into
the
hands
of
people
who
need
it
most
in
our
community.
So
we
really
see
this.
G
This
work
with
the
public
market
as
an
opportunity
to
advance
our
work
around
food
sovereignty
to
advance,
especially
our
local
food
Access
program,
by
improving
access
for
everyone
in
the
community
to
be
able
to.
Obviously,
we
have
a
large
stake
in
supporting
our
local
farmers.
We've
been
working
with
the
vendors
at
the
Kingston
public
market
and
the
memorial
Center
farmers
market
for
considering
this-
and
you
know
like,
would
you
support
us
in
in
putting
forward
a
proposal
and
the
the
response
was
overwhelmingly
positive?
G
So
we
see
this,
as
you
know,
not
just
something:
that's
going
to
benefit
living
Spoonful,
but
really
a
way
for
us
to
advance
our
charitable
Mission
and
and
supporting
the
local
food
system,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that
a
farmer's
market
is
not
just
a
Leisure
activity
for
people.
It's
it's
a
rural,
Economic,
Development
issue.
It's
a
food
sovereignty,
Nation!
It's
a
food
security
issue,
I
think
I'll,
leave
it
at
that
and
I'm
sure
there
will
be
some
questions.
Thank
you.
I.
B
Okay,
no
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
We
have
no
further
delegations
this
evening,
so
we
will
move
on.
We
have
no
briefings.
Are
there
any
petitions
to
present
no
petitions?
Okay,
so
we
will
move
on.
We
have
no
motions
of
congratulations.
We
will
move
to
deferred
motions
now
we
do
have
one
deferred
motion
that
is
on
our
agenda.
This
is
the
final
recommendations
of
the
Heritage
Kingston
review
working
group,
so
the
previous
Council
deferred
this.
H
So
as
I
read
through
there
was
a
statement
and
I'm
going
to
sort
of
summarize
this
I'm
curious
as
to
how
the
proposed
changes
are
actually
going
to
increase
the
level
of
community
input
and
engagement
and
better
support.
Heritage
Property
Owners.
J
Thank
you,
I
can
certainly
hope
to
address
that
question.
Thank
you,
counselor
The
Proposal
is
is
to
help
property
owners
in
a
number
of
ways,
one
of
which
is
to
streamline
the
delegated
authority
process
so
that
homeowners
can
get
decisions
out
of
committee
in
the
supportive
committee
faster.
So
you
would
have
noted
in
the
report.
J
We
do
mention
that
most
Heritage
decisions
actually
move
through
what
we're
now
calling
stream
Tunes
process
and
in
the
the
setup
that
we
have
now
one
of
the
key
items
we've
heard
from
Community
is
we
want
this
to
be
easy?
We
want
it
to
be
fast,
we
want
it
to
be
collaborative,
and
so,
with
stream,
two
we
get
the
opportunity
for
collaboration
with
committee,
but
we
also
get
a
decision
usually
in
about
a
45-day
window,
as
opposed
to
60
to
90
days
that
it
would
take
for
an
application
to
move
fully
through
to
council.
H
And
just
as
a
follow-up,
so
just
because
this
has
been
brought
up
to
me
as
a
concern
with
delegated
authority
that
in
stream
two
can
you
please
confirm
what
a
clear
majority
of
committee
means
and
just
clarify
that
45
days
will
be
sufficient
time
to
get
through
this
process.
If
there
is,
if
committee
does
not
clearly
meet
that
majority
level,
then
it
goes
to
stream.
Three
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
that
point.
Ms.
J
Is
new
and
this
review
again
Mr
chair?
So
yes,
if
the
decision
is
to
come
to
the
stream
two
there's
a
45-day
expectation
for
that
decision
through
a
normal
Heritage
process,
the
legislation
allows
Council
or
the
delegation
of
council's
authority
90
days
to
make
that
decision.
So
if
it
were
to
come
to
committee
through
a
stream
2
process,
a
clear
majority
is
a
majority.
So
it
is,
you
know
the
the
carrying
weight
as
it
is
at
Council
of
that
support.
J
If
that
support
is
not
rendered
at
committee-
and
there
is
a
disagreement
between
the
committee
to
the
recommendation
of
the
report,
the
decision
would
automatically
move
to
the
stream
3
process,
which
is
then
going
to
uphold
Council
as
the
ultimate
decision
making
Authority.
They
would
then
come
to
council
for
a
decision,
usually
that
happens
in
about
60
days,
but
we
are
usually
in
all
ways
well
within
our
90-day
legislative
timeline.
For
that
decision
making.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you
as
I
was
reading.
The
report
I
noticed
that
on
several
occasions
the
public
was
concerned
that
City
staff
were
not
credentialed
enough
for
this
I'm
asking
is.
This
is
the
city
staff
that
will
be
handling
this
credentialed
and
experienced
enough
in
Heritage
matters
to
be
able
to
have
this
effect
effectively
be
professionalized
and
taken
out
of
our
hands.
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
Your
worship
I'm
happy
to
address
that.
Yes,
there
has
certainly
been
some
opinion.
That's
been
expressed
by
members
of
the
community
for
whatever
reason
about
the
credentialing
of
our
staff.
Within
our
staff
group,
we
have
Dr
Campbell
who's,
a
PhD
in
specialist
in
this
area
of
study
and
the
staff
that
work
underneath
her
all
have
detailed
planning,
expertise
and
expertise
in
Heritage.
J
J
There
are
a
select
number
of
individuals
who
certainly
did
raise
concern
and
have
continued
to
raise
concern
regarding
staff's
ability
to
move
recommendations,
but,
as
you
know,
commissioner,
Agnew
has
shared
that
actually
wasn't
the
overwhelming
amount
of
feedback
that
we've
received
from
the
public
and
from
here
to
chaplain
so
property
owners
who
make
Heritage
applications.
They
were
actually
very
appreciative
and
spoke
highly
of
stats
credentials
and
support
on
these
Heritage
files.
A
J
B
L
We
can
hear
you
thank
you.
Thank
you,
Mary
Patterson,
sorry
about
that
yeah
I,
just
wanted
to
I've
been
on
Heritage
planning
for
a
while
and
committee
and
I'm
just
I'm.
I
am
supportive
of
this
and
I
appreciate
the
questions
and
especially
how
Miss
Campbell
has
answered
them.
I
think
that
we
can
have
confidence
that
this
will
be
an
improvement
and
I'm
looking
forward.
To
being
part
of
that,
thank
you.
M
Apology,
thank
you.
Your
worship
through
you
just
a
little
add
on
to
councilor
McLaren's
question,
how
we
will
keep
the
check-in
balance
and
transparency
to
to
that
matter.
When
it's
come
to
the
recommendation
from
the
staff.
J
Thank
you
and
again
for
you.
So
we
have
created
a
feedback
loop
essentially
so
when
the
decision
is
made.
So
if
there
is
through
the
stream
2
process
again
where
a
majority
of
Heritage
matters
would
be
decided
at
the
committee
level
and
the
permit
issued
after
the
committee
meeting,
there
would
then
be
a
reporting
back
to
the
committee
once
those
permits
are
actually
issued
and
that
would
become
part
of
the
committee
record
and
would
be
available
for
anyone
to
pursue
or
review.
J
Should
there
be
interest
in
seeing
the
decision
making
that
has
occurred
at
that
ending.
So
it
would
always
be
a
part
of
the
public
record
and
also
I
would
just
emphasize
as
well
that
if
there
were
a
matter
that
Council
would
like
to
hear
more
about
that
is
set
to
go
through
a
screen
tube
process.
We
have
allowed
and
would
be
supportive
of
moving
those
files
through
the
stream
3
channel
to
ensure
that
Council
had
opportunity.
Should
there
be
interest
in
having
the
matter
considered
at
counselor,
the
council
can
delegate
its
authority
to
staff.
B
Okay,
if
there's
no
other
questions
or
discussion,
we
will
call
the
vote
then,
on
Clause
one
of
report
number
five,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried.
Okay.
Thank
you.
So
that
makes
a
deferred
motion
on
our
agenda
Newt,
and
so
we
will
move
now
move
on
to
reports.
First
up
we
have
report
number
one
from
the
CIO.
B
Okay,
so
there
are
two
clauses
when
anyone
like
them
separated,
otherwise
we
will
vote
on
them
as
a
whole.
Okay,
yes,
okay,
so
I've
seen
a
couple
of
hands,
so
we
will
separate
them
we'll
deal
with
them
one
at
a
time.
So
first
we
have
the
2023
calendar
of
meetings,
councilor
senec,.
N
Yes,
thank
you
worship
for
for
this
one.
When
we
voted
all
of
us
on
different
committees,
it
was
then
recognized
that
planning
committee
will
be
on
the
same
night
as
the
conservation,
Authority
meeting
and
so
I
think
we
have
some
change.
Some
dates
proposed
right
now,
where
it
won't
overlap
and
also
some
dates
that
then,
consequently
overlap
the
downtown
Bia
with
some
planning
committee
members,
and
so
this
amendment
will
also
take
care
of
that.
B
B
B
Okay,
we'll
call
the
vote
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried
so
now
we're
back
to
the
2023
calendar
meetings,
as
amended
with
those
change
of
dates.
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried
okay
on
to
number
two
extension
of
investor
Center
naming
rights
agreement,
all
those
in
favor
post
and
that's
Carrie,
hey
on
to
report
number
two
from
the
Cao.
C
B
All
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried
number
two
Kingston
public
market
operations,
Services
Award
of
RFP
to
Loving,
Spoonful,
repeal
of
the
Kingston
Public
Market
bylaw,
a
new
license
agreement,
the
farmers
market,
Association,
Kingston,
debate
discussion,
just
one
question
for
for
staff:
I'll
I'll
keep
the
chair,
but
just
a
quick
question,
so
something
that
the
delegation
raised
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
clarified.
B
B
I
think
that's
great
news:
okay,
noted
okay,
any
further
discussion
on
that;
okay,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried
number
three
drinking
water
quality
management
system
management,
review
report
and
endorsement
of
operational
plan.
B
B
B
Okay,
is
there
a
secondary
for
option,
two
move
by
counselor
Glenn
counselor
boam.
You
have
the
floor.
D
The
Year
we're
shipping
through
you
I,
believe
director
Semple
would
be
on
the
line,
perhaps
okay
and-
and
my
question
initially
would
be.
Essentially
what
was
the
best
practices
when,
when
this
was
being
researched
in
other
life-sized
municipalities,
there,
director
simple.
O
Thank
you
and
through
you.
Yes,
so
as
part
of
this
work,
we
looked
at
a
variety
of
municipalities
across
Ontario
and
looked
at
the
ways
that
they
both
handled
sports
games
and
other
activities
on
on
their
streets
or
on
their
right-of-ways.
So
you
can
see
contained
within
the
report.
There
was
sort
of
three
different
ways,
I
guess
in
which
those
municipalities
reflected
that.
O
So
there
were
a
number
very
few
number
municipalities
that
regulated
street
hockey
or
regulated
street
hockey
and
basketball,
but
the
majority
of
the
municipalities
did
not
expressly
regulate
sport
or
game
at
all,
so
essentially
dealt
with
the
matter
in
the
way
that
it
is
outlined
in
option.
Two
that's
been
presented
to
council
time.
D
D
That
we
looked
at
okay,
just
a
follow-up
question,
then
I
know
that
sometimes
people
have
some
concerns
about.
You
know
if
we
don't
regulate
it
and
there
is
encroachment
on
the
roads
or
or
any
other
issues
would
bylaw
and
or
city
staff
still
have
other
tools
within
existing
bylaws
or
rate
of
Passage
rules
on
roads
to
deal
with
any
issues
that
came
up.
O
Yes,
I
think
through
you
Mr
Mayor,
so
we
have
the
ability,
through
some
of
the
general
Clauses
that
are
contained
in
this
bylaw
and
others
to
address
any
of
the
concerns
that
may
come
up
within
the
right-of-way.
O
So
matters
as
it
relates
to
sports
equipment
or
the
pre
or
people
on
on
the
right-of-way
or
in
the
right-of-way
can
be
addressed
through
some
of
the
general
Provisions
that
we
already
have
and
other
and
and
other
aspects
related
to
noise
and
other
pieces
can
be,
can
be
addressed
in
through
our
normal
enforcement
practice.
D
Those
bylaws
thank
you
and
just
one
additional
question:
it's
more
on
the
legal
side
of
things.
Would
there
be
any
I
guess,
liability
Associated,
or
does
this
actually
sort
of
remove
liability
from
the
city
in
a
sense
because
we're
not
sort
of
endorsing
it
and
we're
kind
of
taking
a
you
know,
Common
sense
position
if
you
will
miss
Marley.
P
Thank
you
and
through
your
worship,
it
will
come
as
a
surprise
to
absolutely
no
one
that
my
preferred
approach
would
be
to
maintain
a
Prohibition
against
playing
sports
and
games
in
the
streets.
However,
if
Council
does
desire
to
make
a
change
in
that
regard,
option
two
is
certainly
preferred
over
option.
P
But
you
still
have
the
ability
under
other
Municipal
bylaws,
including
the
streets
by
law
and
the
encroachment
by
law,
to
prohibit
the
dangerous
elements
associated
with
playing
in
the
streets.
So
you
would
still
have
the
ability
to
prevent
individuals
from
obstructing
the
free
flow
of
traffic
or
to
prevent
sports
equipment
from
permanently
encroaching
on
the
roadway.
D
You
we're
shipping
through
you,
so
this
all
came
about
because
we
basically
had
a
bylaw
that
regulated
street
hockey
within
the
streets
and
then
all
of
a
sudden.
You
know
if
you
have
people
in
a
cul-de-sac
that
want
to
play
basketball
and
a
neighbor,
decides
to
call
and
complain
because
they
don't
like
the
noise
or
whatever
and
they
move
into
the
neighborhood.
This
is
an
example
just
from
my
district,
but
somebody
who
knew
who's
into
the
neighborhood
and
it's
never
been
an
issue
and
there's
12
families
on
this
little
cul-de-sac
and
all
of
a
sudden.
D
Now
kids
can't
go
out
on
this
cul-de-sac
and
play
basketball
anymore.
So
obviously
there's
some
concerns.
You
know
if
the
basketball
net
was
right
on
the
road
or
something
like
that
so
sounds
like
staff
basically
have
looked
into
this
and
from
what
I
can
understand,
have
other
mechanisms
to
deal
with
any
obstruction
on
the
road.
But
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
what
most
cities
are
doing
here
is
they're
not
regulating
what's
allowed
and
what's
not
allowed,
it
comes
down
to
a
common
sense
sort
of
thing.
D
So
you
know
if
kids
want
to
play
on
a
cul-de-sac
and
get
outside
and
be
active
that
that's
perfectly
acceptable.
The
problem
with
what
we
had,
though,
is
we'd
have
to
keep
amending
the
bylaw
that
we
had
to
try
to
like
constantly
make
it
regulated
for
whatever
was
going
on
so
whether
it's
street
hockey
basketball
or
you
know
two
kids
on
a
cul-de-sac,
throwing
a
football
back
and
forth,
and
somebody
calls
bylaw
and
goes
they're
playing
they're
playing
on
the
road.
D
Well,
I
mean
yeah,
but
so
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
this
all
came
about
and
the
whole
idea
with
with
basically
option
two
here
is
that
we're
going
to
kind
of
take
a
position
by
not
taking
a
position.
So
it's
kind
of
like
if
we
were
to
say
you
couldn't
play
anything
in
the
streets.
I
think
that
would
just
completely
blow
up
simply
because
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
Safe
Streets
to
play
on.
D
We
literally
have
safe
Street
initiatives,
there's
probably
going
to
be
most
residential
streets
will
likely
be
reduced
to
40
kilometers
an
hour
or
even
less
in
the
future
right.
So
we
have
active
play
Streets
that
are
now
being
trialled
across
the
city
and,
to
be
quite
honest,
you
know
our
streets
are
still
part
of
our
city
and
they're
being
utilized
for
many
different
purposes,
so
it
doesn't
matter
we'll
never
have
enough
Parks
we'll
never
have
enough
play
Space.
So
this
is
more
about
a
common
sense
approach.
D
It's
just
simply
that
the
existing
bylaw
for
street
hockey
was
was
just
too
restrictive.
It
just
only
focused
on
one
sport,
so
let's
say
we
go
and
add
basketball
to
this,
and
then
somebody
wants
to
throw
a
football
right
or
somebody
wants
to
go
outside.
You
know
and
just
lob
a
pickleball
back
and
forth,
because
that
seems
to
be
all
the
all
the
craze
right
now.
So
I
would
just
hope
that
Council
would
support
this.
It's
been
vetted
by
staff.
D
They
did
a
lot
of
research
on
this
and
and
really
what
we
would
be
doing
here
is
essentially
taking
a
position
that
of
what
most
most
cities
are
taking,
which
is
common
sense,
usage
of
the
streets.
Obviously,
I
don't
expect
anybody
I've
thrown
a
football
across
Highway
15.,
but
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
small
little
side
streets
where
you
know
maybe
playing
some
floor
hockey.
May
you
know
what
I
mean
you
always
see
the
great
things
on
where
it's
you
know
a
couple
police
officers
stop
after
their
shift
and
play.
D
You
know
Road
hockey
with
some
kids
or
something
like
that.
That's
heartwarming
right!
That's!
It's
truly
Canadian!
So
I
think
with
the
option
two
here
we're
just
taking
that
position
of
not
taking
a
position
and
then
it
comes
down
to
Common.
Sense
bylaw
has
other
tools
to
be
able
to
deal
with
anybody
that
causes
issues
and,
and
then
we're
going
to
hopefully
avoid
some
of
these
complaints
that
come
in
or
the
harassment
complaints
where
you
get
one
neighbor
that
just
doesn't
want
anybody
to
do
anything
on
their
stream.
D
Q
Through
your
worship,
just
a
quick
comment
in
that
I
I
obviously
have
grown
up
in
Kingston
in
through
the
80s
I'm,
showing
my
age
a
little
bit,
but
through
the
80s
street
hockey
was
big
in
my
neighborhood,
basketball
was
big,
football
was
touch,
football
was
big
on
the
streets
and
I.
Think
it's
just
a
great
Avenue
for
us
to
to
have
our
kids
out
playing
again.
Q
All
too
often,
we've
been
isolated,
especially
through
the
pandemic.
Our
kids
have
been
kept
inside
it's
time
for
our
kids
to
come
back
out
and
enjoy
what
the
city
has
to
offer.
I
do
have
one
question,
and
it's
in
regard
to
Ryan
or
councilman,
asked
all
of
my
questions.
R
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
you
worship,
I'm,
probably
not
going
to
do
justice
to
the
history,
because
I
probably
wasn't
around
for
some
of
that
history.
All
I
can
say
is
that
the
bylaw
was
amended
many
years
ago
to
allow
street
hockey
at
that
time,
which
was
the
interest
and
as
this
issue
came
forward
once
again,
you
know
it
really
made
sense
to
look
at
this
more
holistically,
as
opposed
to
Bringing
amendments
to
the
streets
bylaw
for
every
single
game
that
may
happen
out
there.
So
that's
the
best
I
can
offer
you,
sir.
S
Thank
you,
your
worship
through
you,
I
guess
the
question
would
be
if
it
was
deregulated.
This
question
for
I
guess
our
lawyer.
What
would
be
the
worst
case
scenario
for
liability
that
the
city
may
have
just
based
on
your
best
guess.
P
P
So
it's
difficult
to
upon
in
the
liability,
but
I
think
what
I
can
say
is
that
option
two
potentially
creates
less
liability
for
the
city
you're,
not
specifically,
enabling
or
authorizing
the
sports
on
the
street
you're,
taking
the
position
that
you
don't
enforce
that
activity.
So
that
would
be
something
that
we'd
be
able
to
rely
on
on
a
potential
claim.
S
Thank
you,
your
your
worship
and
as
a
follow-up.
When
conducting
your
research
about
these
different
options,
what
was
the
largest
liability
claim
that
you
came
across
or
did
you
come
across
any.
P
I
would
say
that,
from
my
perspective,
the
general
prohibition
that
is
in
there
is
that
the
best
defense
against
that
type
of
liability
that
I've
seen
in
every
case,
because
it
was
a
very
clear
statement
by
the
municipality.
They
did
not
permit
those
activities
to
occur,
but
I
don't
have
a
great
database
of
knowledge
with
respect
to
claims
for
personal
injury
associated
with
playing
in
the
streets.
S
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
want
to
speak
in
support
of
option
two
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
First,
I
think
our
current
situation
is
basically
a
form
of
sports
discrimination
to
only
have
hockey
there,
as
somebody
who
played
variety
of
sports
I
think
it's
important
that
we
encourage
people
to
have
options
and
choices.
I'd
also
like
to
speak
to
the
health
and
well-being
of
Youth,
we've
seen
a
decrease
in
physical
activity
and
that's
plummeted
even
further
during
this
pandemic.
Unfortunately,
and
we
see
that
that
leads
to
increased
childhood
obesity,
other
Associated
health
risks.
H
The
other
thing
about
physical
activity
is,
it
has
to
be
accessible,
so
the
roadway
is
an
opportunity
on
occasion
for
increased
accessibility,
increased
socialization
of
our
children.
The
pandemic
has
certainly
I
think
decreased
the
opportunity
for
our
youth
to
engage
with
one
another
and
to
develop
those
social
skills
to
cooperate
and
to
work
together.
As
a
team,
we've
got
a
great
team
around
this
table.
B
B
B
T
B
Okay,
moving
on,
we
have
nothing
from
Committee
of
the
whole
this
evening.
Information
reports,
if
you
have
any
questions,
just
raise
your
hand
as
I
read
through
them.
So
number
one
Waban
Crossing
quarterly
update
Q4
2022
number
two
Bill
23
more
homes
built
faster
act,
2022,
okay,
first
step
I
see,
is
Council
McLaren.
K
Thank
you.
So,
on
page
five
of
24,
it
talks
about
how
there's
no
performance
standards
that
specifically
regulate
the
size,
height,
mass
and
standards
of
three
unit
buildings.
K
I
K
That's
my
second
question.
Sorry,
the
first
one,
so
this
is
on
page
five
of
24
of
the
report.
It
says
in
the
bullet
point
where
these
three
unit
building
types
are
not
currently
contemplated
in
an
urban
residential
Zone,
but
are
automatically
permitted
by
bills.
23..
There
are
no
performance
standards
that
specifically
regulate
the
size.
Height
massing,
built
form
standard
of
three
unit
buildings.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
and
three
sorry
I
do
under
understand
your
question
now
so,
as
Council
would
would
remember
certain
counselors,
at
least
when
we
passed
the
aru
permissions
and
the
new
zoning
bylaws
So,
currently
for
Kingston,
with
the
way
our
policy
is
stipulated,
we
do
have
regulations
with
respect
to
overall
height
setbacks
and
the
way
that
that
the
units
can
be
arranged
within
a
particular
property.
The
new
policies
change
that
from
the
government.
I
We
don't
yet
know
if
there's
going
to
be
additional
information
that
comes
through
regulation,
but
the
way
that
it's
been
presented
so
far
and
I
expect
where
the
province
has
wanted
to
go
on.
This
is
as
little
regulation
as
possible
at
the
municipal
level,
so
that
may
not
enable
us
to
regulate
them
to
a
greater
degree.
K
Okay,
thank
you
and
the
second
question
which
you
were
on
to
a
bit
there.
What
is
left
Beyond,
agriculture
or
sorry
architecture
and
Landscape
designed
for
site
plan.
I
Thank
you
through
you,
Mr
Mayor.
So
at
this
point
again
there
is
some
there's
information,
that's
missing
with
respect
to
the
actual
implementing
regulation.
But
what
has
been
hinted
due
by
the
province
at
this
point
is
really
having
site
plan
regulate
only
health
and
safety
matters
they
haven't
defined.
K
Right
and
I
guess
the
last
one
is
referring
to
the
point
that
land
lease
communities
are
now
the
option
is
available
to
go
to
49
years
instead
of
a
maximum
of
21
years.
If
say,
some
random
bloke
were
to
decide
to.
You
know
want
to
build
a
co-op.
Would
this
be
something
that
they
could
apply
for.
I
K
Wonderful
and
the
last
question,
through
you,
Mr
Mayor,
does
the
removal
of
DC
and
or
the
requirement
to
put
60
percent
into
reserves
affect
the
payment
plan
for
the
third
Crossing
I
seem
to
recall
that
we're
financing
that,
through
DC's
for
at
least
half
of
the
half
of
the
60
million
that
we
put
into
it
are
we
in
trouble.
U
Thank
you
through
you,
Mr
Mayor,
so,
and
thank
you
counselor
for
the
question.
U
So
it's
not
going
to
be
a
big
issue
for
the
third
Crossing
at
this
point,
but
it
is
a
good
example
of
the
challenge
with
this
legislation
because
we
were
collecting
DC's
very
early
on
for
the
third
Crossing
before
construction
began
a
number
of
years
before,
and
so
this
legislation
does
not
recognize
the
ability
to
do
that
and
to
spread
those
payments
out
over
a
number
of
years,
but
it
certainly
won't
help
that
project,
because
we
are
so
close
to
completion.
Thank.
K
N
Thank
you,
your
worship
and
first
thanks
so
much
to
staff
for
this
report.
It
really
explains
a
lot
of
things.
I
just
have
some
questions.
N
One
of
them
is
so
for
page
six,
where
it
talks
about
third
party
appeals
so
with
what
was
actually
a
pass
with
royal
Ascent
third
party
appeals
can
still
be
heard
for
amendments
to
the
official
plan
and
Zoning
bylaw.
Is
that
correct?
It's
only
for
basically
Committee
of
adjustment
items
right
minor
variances
and
consent.
Applications
where
a
third
party
appeal
won't
be
heard
anymore,
is
that
right.
I
Thank
you
and
through
you,
there
were
amendments
that
were
made
at
the
standing
committee
before
it
went
back
for
a
legislative
vote,
so
those
amendments
included
changes
to
third
party
appeals
to
enable
them
again
for
zoning
bylaw
official
plan
Amendment
draft
plan.
The
subdivision
draft
plan
a
condominium.
So
at
present
what
was
passed
is
to
remove.
The
third
party
appeals
only
for
consent,
applications
and
minor
variances.
N
Super
thank
you
for
confirming
that
and
then
for
the
Target
that's
been
set
for
us
and
that's
8.
000
new
homes
is
that
8
000
new
homes
by
the
year
2031
is
that
what
the
deadline
is.
I
N
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
thanks
for
giving
us
these
tables
tables
one
two,
three
four
and
five
right
so
for
the
committed
ones.
Then,
if
they
all
get
built
right,
that
would
be
five
thousand,
so
that
would
mean
just
3
000
more
like
are
there.
N
So
basically,
we
have
to
see
these
and
I
can
Table
Three
the
potential
new
units
or
table
for
the
pending
unit
units.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
somehow
those
also
get
built
to
work
towards
that
8
000.
I
Yes,
that's
correct,
so
the
the
committed
units
are
ones
that
have
received
planning
approval,
but
have
not
yet
pulled
building
permits.
Anything
that's
referred
to
as
a
pending,
that's
subject
to
a
planning
application
that
has
not
yet
been
before
Council
for
a
decision.
When
you
look
at
table
three
specifically
councilor
Samick,
you
may
remember
that
we
pre-zone
some
lands
in
the
Woodhaven
area
through
the
new
zoning
bylaw.
So
these
are
areas
that
already
have
the
the
zoning
in
place
again
to
just
pull
pull
those
building
permits.
So
that's
another
1600
units.
I
So
again
we
need
all
of
those
units
to
actually
move
from
the
approval
stage
to
construction
and
for
the
units
that
have
been
approved
that
haven't
gone
to
construction,
the
same
piece
for
us
to
be
able
to
meet
those
targets.
That's
correct!.
N
Now
I
can
understand
why,
in
the
report
it
says
that
it's
really
hard
for
the
municipality
to
make
sure
that
they
all
get
built,
even
though
they
have
the
approvals
and
whatnot
all
right.
Thank
you.
Through
your
worship.
I
just
also
have
a
question
for
the
conservation
Authority
owned
lands
where
it
says
that
the
conservation
areas
have
to
try
to
look
at
their
land
inventory
if
they
determined
that
there
aren't
any
lands
suitable
for
development.
N
I
Yeah,
thank
you
and
through
you,
so
each
conservation,
Authority
in
Ontario
has
been
asked
to
look
at
their
land
bank
and
evaluate
the
suitability
of
what
they
have.
If
there
is
anything
that's
appropriate
if
they
don't
have
any
lands
within
their
ownership
that
are
appropriate,
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
sense
of
of
them
being
penalized,
because
every
municipality
would
be
different
with
respect
to
their
land
ownership.
But
some
of
that
process
is
is
really
between
likely
the
province
and
the
conservation
Authority,
with
maybe
a
little
bit
of
involvement
from
municipality.
I
S
Thank
you,
worship
through
you,
so
a
few
points
again
I.
Thank
you
very
much
to
staff
for
preparing
this
report.
It
was
very
thorough
and
very
in-depth
a
few
questions
that
I
have
just
for
clarification.
It
says
in
the
report
that
the
province
is
issuing
housing
targets
for
lack
of
error
term.
It
doesn't
clarify
what
the
penalties
will
be.
If
we
don't
achieve
those
targets,
do
you
have
any
insight
as
to
what
bad
things
will
happen?
If
we
don't
do
that.
S
I
You
and
through
you
I,
imagine
that
come
the
New
Year,
the
municipalities
or
each
municipality
may
receive
more
information
on
the
housing
pledge.
Specifically,
we
are
notified
by
way
of
a
fairly
General
letter
that
outlined
what
our
Target
would
be
and
the
general
timing
and
how
we
would
have
to
present
that.
So
it's
basically
a
plan
that
identifies
how
we
intend
to
achieve
those
units
and
then
there's
a
process
of
that
being
publicly
I.
Think
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
posted
on
the
provincial
web
page
somewhere
and
then
there's
some
type
of
updating.
S
S
Your
worship,
the
National
Housing
accelerator
fund-
this
is
a
federal
or
provincial
initiative.
S
Q
Councilor
Amos,
thank
you.
Your
honor,
through
you,
Parkland
convenience
requirements
under
Bill.
23
from
my
understanding
are
in
Jeopardy.
It
appears
we
no
longer
can
work
with
a
developer
to
have
our
Parks
as
a
central
location
for
any
of
our
new
neighborhoods.
Is
this
true,
and
what
does
this
mean
for
our
city.
T
To
answer
your
question,
what
the
proposed
changes
are
doing
is
it's
allowing
the
developer
to
determine
where
the
Parkland
dedication
will
go
within
their
development
site,
the
city
does
or
the
municipality
would
have
the
ability
to
appeal
that
location
if
it
chose
to
and
then
it
would
go
to
if
it
can't
be
resolved,
it
would
go
to
some
sort
of
tribunal
or
hearing
too
determine
the
final
location.
H
I
Thank
you
and
through
you,
so
that
is
correct
with
the
legislative
change
for
our
municipality.
That
does
represent
a
substantial
number
of
properties
to
bring
through
the
process
within
a
pretty
condensed
period
of
time,
we're
currently
from
a
staffing
and
operational
perspective.
Looking
at
all
of
the
changes
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
address
and
prioritize
Dr
Campbell,
do
you
have
any
further
questions
or
comments
on
this.
J
Sorry
I
was
having
some
trouble
with
my
mic
earlier.
I'm,
not
sure
if
that's
improved
the
situation
is,
is
that
a
little
bit
better
for
everyone?
Yes,
thank
you.
Yes,
that's
great,
so
thank
you
and
through
you,
I
would
just
add
that
the
the
300
plus
listed
properties
that
we
have
one
of
the
aspects
of
the
bill
that
is
unclear
at
this
time
is
the
regulation
against
which
those
properties
will
have
to
be
assessed.
J
If
the
regulation
moves,
as
is
being
suggested,
that
they
would
have
to
meet
two
of
the
906
regulations,
that
is
the
significant
piece
of
work.
It
actually
would
also
mean
that
some
of
our
listed
properties
that
are
already
on
our
register
would
be
required
to
be
reassessed,
even
if
they
were
recently
added
to
the
list
to
meet
the
new
threshold
for
the
criteria.
So,
as
commissioner
egnu
was
indicating,
it's
a
significant
amount
of
staff
time
and
resource
to
address
those
300,
putting
all
other
designation
opportunities
aside.
H
And
through
you
again,
Mr
Mayor
I,
also
note
that
bylaw
passed
by
council
is
subject
to
an
appeal
of
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
So
we
could
designate.
Does
this
mean
that
we
could
designate
a
property
pass
this
by
bylaw
and
be
overruled.
J
Thank
you,
and,
and
through
you
Mr
chair,
Mr
Mayor.
Yes,
there
have
always
been
appeal
rights
to
designation
what
the
bill
introduces
our
appeal
rights
to
listings
and
retroactive
appeal
rights
to
listings.
So,
yes,
you
are
correct.
Counselor
we
could
see
Council
designate
or
list
a
property,
and
then
that
would
move
through
an
appeal
process
and
would
be
subject
as
yet.
We
don't
know
what
the
appeal
threshold
would
be.
It
is
not
defined
as
of
yet
in
the
bill
or
through
the
regulations.
B
B
Okay,
so
moving
on
to
information
report
number
three:
is
the
supplemental
report
to
report
number
23-020
I
think
we
were.
You
know,
sort
of
asking
questions
from
both
any
other
questions
on
either.
Okay,
so
we'll
move
on.
We
have
no
information
reports
from
members
of
council
miscellaneous
business.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
different
items,
so
the
first
we
have
four
counselors
that
have
put
their
names
forward
to
take
a
two-month
shift
as
deputy
mayor.
B
So
before
we
draw
names
out
of
the
hot
and
assign
dates,
is
there
anybody
else
on
the
floor
that
wants
to
put
their
name
forward
for
this
round
cancer?
Amos?
B
Okay?
So
we
will
add
August
and
September
of
2023
to
list
anybody
else,
Council
Glenn,
so
we
will
add
October
and
November
that
gets
us
a
full
year.
Anyone
else
last
call
counselor,
tozo,
you're,
good,
okay,
I
do
I
will
say
I
highly
recommend
taking
it
on,
but
I
understand.
B
If
you
want
to
wait
first
and
then
jump
in
later
on,
it's
a
four-year
term,
but
if
you
have
the
opportunity
at
some
point
to
take
take
on
the
deputy
mayor
role,
I
think
it's
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
get
into
the
community,
attend
events
and
be
able
to
represent
the
city
at
a
number
of
different
functions.
So
so
I
will
hand
things
over
to
the
clerk
and
Deputy
clerk
for
for
the
random
draw.
C
B
Okay,
so
just
as
noted
in
the
in
the
motion,
we're
not
going
to
confirm
those
dates
tonight,
you've
been
assigned
a
two-month
slot
if
you
know,
for
some
reason
that
that
is
not
a
great
two-month
period
for
you,
then
there's
an
opportunity
to
trade.
That
is
the
one
thing
that
that
myself
and
my
office
staff
do
ask
is
that
if
you
are
the
deputy
mayor
that
you
please
be
in
town
for
for
signing
documents
for
attending
events,
and
so
that
is
important.
B
So
if
you
just
make
sure
that
those
dates
work
for
you
and
then
we
will
confirm
that
at
our
next
meeting.
Okay,
so
moving
on,
we
have
a
couple
of
other
miscellaneous
motions
moved
by
councilor
boom.
Second
by
counselor
shaves,
that
is
requested
by
Walter
gugero
kids
for
kids,
Council
Proclaim,
March,
24th,
March,
26
2023,
as
the
kids
for
kids
hockey
tournament
in
the
city
of
Kingston
and
then
moved
by
councilor
to
Nanny
seconded
by
Council
Ridge,
the
pursuant
to
section
1204
three
of
the
municipal
act,
the
following
appointments.
B
D
I
take
the
chair.
Your
worship
moved
by
mayor
Patterson
seconded
by
councilor
Stephen,
whereas
High
inflation
over
the
last
year
as
a
road
of
the
purchasing
power
of
Kingston
residents,
making
it
harder
for
individuals
and
households
to
make
ends
meet
and
whereas
a
temporary
reduction
in
the
price
of
a
regular
monthly
transit
pass
is
an
important
way.
D
B
Thank
you
very
much
councilor
boom,
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
Begin.
By
just
making
a
couple
of
broad
comments.
Every
single
one
of
us
around
this
table
ran
on
a
number
of
different
priorities.
We
campaigned
on
different
platform
items
and
I'm
sure
that
we
are
all
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
to
bring
those
items
forward.
B
So
I
do
ask
unless
it's
time
sensitive
to
wait
until
the
end
of
spring
I
do
recognize
that
there
probably
are
a
couple
of
priorities
and
a
couple
of
things
that
are
time
sensitive,
and
so
that's
why
I
brought
this
motion
forward.
So
I
just
want
counts.
To
be
clear,
the
only
reason
why
this
has
come
forward
is
of
all
the
other
ideas
that
I
would
like
to
see.
They
can
all
wait
until
the
spring,
except
for
this
one.
B
The
reason
why
this
is
time
sensitive
is
I
feel
that,
given
the
current
pressures
on
cost
of
living,
the
high
inflation
that
people
are
really
feeling
the
pinch
right
now
and
I
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
for
us
as
a
city
to
be
able
to
to
send
a
signal
that
we
are
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
help
people
to
manage
with
the
High
Cost
of
Living
and
helping
to
make
ends
meet.
So
the
proposal
here
is
to
bring
forward
options
that
we
could
discuss
at
our
2023
budget
session.
B
To
be
clear,
we
are
not
making
any
decisions
tonight
about
whether
or
not
to
adjust
those
fees,
we're
simply
asking
for
that
information
so
that
we
can't
have
that
discussion
in
our
budget
sessions
about.
Is
there
an
opportunity
that
we
could
have
a
temporary
reduction
in
transit
fees?
To
be
honest,
I
I'm,
not
sure
yet,
I.
Don't
think
that
we're
in
a
position
to
make
that
decision.
Yet
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
weigh
out
what
the
financial
implications
of
that
would
be.
B
I
think
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
also
taking
into
consideration
about
how
to
keep
property
tax
increases
as
low
as
possible.
So
everything
has
a
cost
and
that's
something
we're
going
to
have
to
explore.
But
I
am
asking
Council
to
take
this
step
and
at
least
ask
for
that
information
that
we
can
have
when
we
talk
about
the
budget
in
February.
B
The
other
piece
to
this
is
not
only
to
help
with
cost
of
living,
but,
as
the
motion
indicates,
Transit
ridership
is
still
only
72
percent
of
what
it
was
before
the
pandemic.
There
were
a
number
of
years
where
Kingston
led
the
country
in
transit,
ridership
growth
and,
of
course,
that
transit
ridership
in
turn
brought
in
additional
revenues
to
be
able
to
continue
to
expand
our
transit
system.
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
get
us
back
on
that
track,
and
so
one
thought
that
we
can
discuss
as
counsel
is.
B
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
look
at
a
temporary
reduction
as
an
incentive
to
try
to
get
people
perhaps
back
into
using
Transit?
Maybe
they
were
a
Transit
Rider
and
when
the
pandemic
hit,
then
they
sort
of
got
out
of
the
habit
of
using
Transit?
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
bring
them
back
in?
So
that's
a
discussion
that
we
will
be
able
to
have
at
a
later
date.
Tonight
is
really
about
just
asking
staff
for
the
information
that
I
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
make
that
decision
one
way
or
the
other.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you
through
you,
Mr,
chair,
I,
think
that's
a
great
idea.
Thank
you
for
mayor
Patterson
and
the
councilman
Steven
to
bringing
up
this
motion
forward.
I
am
really
excited
to
see
it
see
this
one.
It's
not
only
because
of
the
pandemic
and
affordability
to
write
the
the
buses
I,
don't
know
how
much
is
going
to
help
the
community
to
save
some
money,
but
definitely
it's
going
to
help
to
increase
the
ridership.
M
This
will
help
to
reduce
the
emission
on
the
streets,
less
cars,
probably,
and
also
it
will
educate
and
give
habits
to
the
public
to
get
on
the
public
transit.
They
will
have
the
opportunity
to
get
on
the
public
transit
and
see
how
how
they
feel
about
it.
You
know
how
how
quick
they
can
get
to
where
they
want
to
get
it
and
how
beneficial
is
it.
So
it
is
a
great
opportunity
for
the
public
to
explore
the
benefit
of
the
public
transit
and
help
us
to
reduce
emissions.
M
The
the
road
safety
and
many
other
then
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea.
Then
all
sport,
which
we
should
look
into
that.
H
Through
you,
I
think
what
I'd
like
to
to
know
with
this?
If
staff
will
indulge
me
I
think
we
might
be
assuming
that
it's
just
Cost
related
because
of
the
pandemic.
We've
seen
a
change
in
Behavior,
so
I
think
in
addition
to
this,
there
needs
to
be
a
look
at
whether
people
are
concerned
about
their
safety
and
their
health
and
well-being.
So,
if
we're
going
to
encourage
an
increase
in
ridership,
I
think
that
this
is
an
aspect
that
we
have
to
give
consideration
to.
Otherwise,
just
simply
decreasing,
the
cost
will
be
ineffective.
S
Tozo,
thank
you
chair
your
Vice,
chair,
yeah,
okay,
thank
you.
Your
chairness
I
think
I.
If
this
question
is
end
of
order,
please
let
me
know,
but
it's
a
procedural
question.
If
we
had
priorities
that
we
will
investigate
in
preparation
for
Budget,
should
we
introduce
them
prior
to
the
time
that
we
would
have
budget,
because
this
is
an
exploratory
measure
which
I
endorse
this
motion
as
well.
S
D
I
would
just
comment
that,
like
with
this
motion
on
the
floor,
that
questions
would
have
to
be
directed
towards
this
motion,
so
I
believe
that's
a
question
that
would
be
asked
outside
of
actually
being
on
the
floor.
Thank
you.
Q
Through
your
chair,
just
a
quick
question
for
Kingston
Transit
I
do
fully
endorse
this
I
think
having
more
ridership
is
important
for
a
city
and
moving
forward
in
climate
change.
My
concern
is
capacity
for
Kingston
Transit
last
week.
The
organization
that
I
work
for
we
run
a
training
session
for
seniors
on
how
to
learn
to
ride
the
transit
system
very
well
received.
However,
they
were
they.
D
B
Thank
you,
councilman
great
comments
from
around
the
table
and
so
I
think
that
everyone
understands
the
spirit
of
this.
This
is
about
making
evidence-based
decisions.
Let's
get
the
evidence
first
and
then
have
those
discussions.
I
agree,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
other
factors
that
are
involved
here.
B
That
being
said,
I
think
that
the
very
exercise
is
sending
an
important
signal
to
the
community
that
we
understand
and
hear
about
the
concerns
about
cost
of
living
and
about
how
we
obviously
want
to
help
support
the
transit
system,
and
so
just
this
very
active
discussion
and
looking
at
in
budget
I
think,
regardless
of
what
we
decide
to
do,
I
think
is
an
important
exercise.
So
I
appreciate
council's
support
and
look
forward
to
seeing
what
comes
back
from
Steph.
D
Thank
you
worship.
So
with
that
we'll
call
the
vote
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
I'll
return.
The
chair
to
you.
B
B
Whereas
Bill
23
will
have
a
negative
environmental
impact
by
removing
the
conservation,
Authority's
ability
to
review
and
consult
on
developments
impacting
natural
heritage
and
conservation,
and
whereas
Bill
23
will
result
in
reduced
Parkland
free
municipalities,
whereas
Bill
23
will
open
up
the
green
belt
for
development
when
the
green
belt
should
remain
an
environmentally
protected
area.
So
it
can
help
to
continue
with
help
continue
to
help
with
flood
control.
Provide
clean
air
and
protect
us
from
natural
disasters
therefore
be
resolved
that
the
corporation
of
the
city
of
Kingston
formally
opposes
Bill
23.
B
More
homes
built
Fast,
Track
2022,
including
the
legislative
changes
that
significantly
reduce
the
role
of
the
conservation
authorities,
which
provide
valuable
consultation,
advice
and
Technical
Support
to
municipalities.
To
ensure
housing
is
built
in
a
safe
way
and
does
not
cause
any
unintended
environmental
consequences
and
the
City
of
Kingston
formally
request
that
the
province
provides.
One
funding
be
put
in
place
for
municipalities
to
replace
the
loss
and
development
charges
and
revenue.
B
Also,
the
province
should
provide
funding
for
municipalities
to
offer
and
build
affordable
housing,
which
could
include
units
of
50
market
value
and
geared
to
income
and
funding,
be
available
to
municipalities,
to
compensate
for
the
reduction
of
Parkland
conveyance
to
allow
the
city
to
acquire
the
need
of
Parkland
and
two
a
process
to
have
methods
to
encourage
underutilized,
privately
owned
lands
within
the
municipal
boundary,
and
that
this
Corporation
of
the
city
of
Kingston
requests.
V
Sorry
for
that
very
long
motion
to
read,
so
we
wrote
this
motion
since
there
there
wasn't
a
an
opportunity
for
this
Council
to
express
their
opinion,
since
it
had
already
passed
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
could
formally
put
our
position
on
that
that
we
oppose
it,
and
we
can
point
out
today
that
this
was
also
our
first
opportunity
as
a
council
and
that
we
could
also
add
our
voice
to
the
other
municipalities,
who
have
also
opposed
this
bill
and
I
hope
to
get
all
all
your
support
to
formally
oppose
this
and
to
highlight
how
we,
how
it
will
negatively
impact
us
as
a
city
and
at
the
same
time,
requests
for
funds
or
for
measures
to
help
offset
or
losses
in
revenue
and
requests
for
extended
consultation
to
allow
us
to
give
proper
feedback
on
the
regulations.
V
B
Okay,
thank
you.
First
up
is
councilor
osterhoff.
L
Yeah,
thank
you,
mayor
Patterson,
and
thanks
for
this
motion,
I
just
want
to
make
a
friendly
Amendment
if
I
could
to
add
the
MPP
for
to
the
North
or
Kingston
and
Frontenac
John
Jordan
to
be
included
in
the
in
those
who
receive
this.
Thank
you.
B
D
Thank
you,
you're,
worshiping
through
you,
so
people
will
probably
hear
me
say
this
a
lot
over
the
next
four
years,
but
you
know
I'm
always
very
cognizant
that
when
we
make
these
motions
to
other
levels
of
government
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
have
our
voice
heard,
but
if
we
do
it
too
often
it
becomes
just
so
much
more
noise
and
and
I'm
not
trying
by
any
means
to
indicate
that
this
is
one
of
those
motions.
What
I
was
going
to
say
is.
D
D
It'll
actually
cause
other
issues
which
would
essentially
become
a
greater
burden
on
our
tax
base
to
make
up
those
shortfalls
so
kudos
to
those
who
brought
this
forward
and
I
really
hope
that
this
message
is
received
at
the
other
levels.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you.
Your
worship,
through
you
I,
also
like
like
to
add
one
more
name
for
the
MPP
for
the
Ontario
from
msv
site.
What
they
got
Loyalists
and.
M
For
the
former
mayor,
Hastings,
and
also
am
I
allowed
to
speak
now.
M
My
colleagues
have
put
this
motion
and
expressed
their
concern
very
well
in
there
and,
as
the
councilor
boom
said,
the
same
thing
I'm
agree
with
that.
What
you
said
that,
but
this
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
raise
our
voice
and
not
only
wish
but
bring
the
concern.
We
are
responsible
for
our
city
for
our
peoples
to
provide
them
what
they
needed,
and
this
is
one
of
the
sources
we
was
using
it
if
the
we
do
need
housing.
M
You
know-
and
we
are
all
agree
on
that-
but
taking
the
opportunity
for
the
different
thing
for
a
different
aspects
are
taken
away
from
the
council
or
the
local
government
is
not
a
good
idea.
Also.
We
have
to
keep
in
mind
the
environment
we
all
worldwide.
We
are
talking
about
the
environments.
We
need
to
be
safe
environment.
Everything
is
taking
over
the
green
belt.
M
Q
B
Q
Okay
in
regards
to
the
to
the
proposal
I
fully
endorse,
it
I
think
it's
an
excellent
way
for
our
new
Council
to
kick
off
that
we
want.
We
want
to
help
our
city
grow
in
the
right
way
and
unfortunately,
this
is
not
the
right
way
of
what
this
bill.
23
is
it's.
H
Thank
you
through
you,
Mr
Mayor
I'm,
in
full
support
of
this
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
need
to
really
point
out
to
this
government.
There's
great
talk
about
the
crisis
of
Housing
and
I.
Think
we're
all
on
side
with
the
fact
that
housing
is
in
crisis
in
this
province
and
in
our
own
City,
but
pushing
something
like
this
through
is
going
to
create
other
crises
Downstream
and
that's
where
I
think
we
need
to
emphasize
our
points
with
them.
So
this
is
going
to
potentially
create
financial
crisis.
H
H
We
still
have
details
that
are
going
to
come
down,
but
slowing
this
process
down
so
that
another
crisis
doesn't
develop
out
of
this
I
think
is
critically
important,
so
I'm
fully
in
support
of
of
the
motion
and
I
just
think
that
in
our
conversations
Upstream,
that
that
should
be
one
of
the
things
that
we
emphasize
that
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
end
up
in
hot
water
across
this
province.
In
in
other
ways,
in
a
rush
to
Simply
put
in
any
sort
of
housing
to
fill
the
void,
thank
you.
B
V
Not
really
but
I
just
want
to
the
point
was
to
really
have
it
where
it
would
add
it
to
the
voice
of
all
the
other
municipalities,
I
kept
seeing
that
other
people
were
other
municipalities
were
writing
something
similar
and
and
Brandon
and
I
talked
about
it
and
I'm
excited
to
write
this,
and
hopefully
maybe
it's
something
that
could
hopefully
do
help
with
some
change,
at
least
at
their
regulation
level.
So
thank
you.
B
B
Okay,
on
to
New
Motion
number
three
move
by
counselor
Sanic
seconded
by
counselor
Stephen,
whereas
the
provincial
government
is
proposing
significant
changes
to
the
laws
and
regulations
regarding
the
management
of
Municipal,
Land,
Development
charges
and
related
planning
processes,
whereas
these
changes
will
have
the
effect
of
downloading
significant
costs
and
responsibilities
to
all.
Ontario
municipalities,
including
the
city
of
Kingston,
therefore
be
resolved.
B
That
staff
prepare
an
estimate
of
the
cost
that
would
have
to
be
paid
by
the
city
of
Kingston
and
its
taxpayers
with
the
passing
of
Bill
23,
including
the
cost
of
conducting
environmental
assessment
report,
reviews
and
floodplain
management
evaluations,
a
legal
analysis
of
potential
liability
to
be
borne
by
the
city
of
Kingston.
If
proceeding
with
development
applications
without
expert
ecological
assessment
and
an
estimate
of
how
Bill
23's
changes
would
affect
the
city's
ability
to
meet
its
corporate
and
Community
climate
targets,
Council
rosenic,
you
have
the
fort.
N
Think
your
worship,
so
this
obviously
relates
to
Bill
23
and
the
consequences
of
it.
We
know
from
tonight's
information
report
that
staff
right
now
are
working
with
Watson
and
Associate.
Some
economists
limited
to
try
to
look
at
what
the
financial
burden
of
these
changes
really
will
be
on
the
city.
With
respect
to
the
final
you
know
like
for
development
charges.
N
This
motion
then
also
looks
at
what
then
from
an
environmental
standpoint.
Those
extra
charges
will
be
as
well.
We
know
also
from
tonight's
report
that,
right
now
the
city
has
a
relationship
right
like
it
it
through
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
conservation
area,
the
crca.
It
provides
the
expertise
for
natural
heritage
and
water
quality,
and,
if
the
with
the
proposals,
the
changes
is
for
Bill
23,
the
conservation
area
will
only
be
able
to
look
at
natural
hazards.
They
won't
be
able
to
look
at
environmental
assessments
anymore.
N
So
how
are
we
going
to
get
them
done?
The
city
still
needs
to
get
them
done.
They're,
either
going
to
have
to
hire
a
full-time
staff
person
with
that
expertise
to
come
onto
the
city
payroll,
or
else
we're
going
to
have
to
hire
Consultants
each
time.
So
with
this
report
or
what
we're
asking
for
here
is
exactly
you
know,
just
a
range
in
pricing.
How
much
does
it
cost
to
conduct
an
environmental
assessment?
N
How
much
does
it
cost
to
do
a
flood
pain,
a
floodplain
management
evaluation,
because
the
city
will
be
on
its
own
with
these
proposed
changes
for
Bill
23,
so
I
don't
know
if
City
staff
can
maybe
ask,
then
the
company
Watson
and
Associates
to
add
that
into
their
report
or
if
they
can,
just
you
know,
called
those
companies
that
do
environmental
assessments
and
provide
just
a
brief
information
Report
with
those
costs.
We
just
had
a
rally
two
weekends
ago
right
that
had
200
people
and
a
lot
of
those
environmental
concerns
from
Bill.
N
23
were
raised
at
that
at
that
rally,
and
you
know
everyone
wants
to
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
that
environmental
assessment
process,
if
Bill
with
Bill
23,
that
has
already
received
Royal
assent.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
this
motion.
Just
to
make
sure
that
those
environmental
aspects
and
the
costs
additional
costs
get
added
in.
B
W
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
your
worship,
I
just
want
to
thank
councilor,
Sanuk
and
councilor
Stephen
for
bringing
this
motion
forward.
W
This
bill
is
something
of
an
an
ongoing
Trend
that
we've
been
seeing
with
the
downloading
of
Burden
onto
municipalities
when
municipalities,
they
themselves
have
very
few
Avenues
of
Revenue
generation
and
the
additional
Burns
that
have
been
placed
on
staff
as
well,
which
is
something
that
we
saw
in
the
the
supplemental
report
and
and
considerations
that
I
I
clearly
I
the
I
believe
the
legislators
did
not
consider
when
they
put
forward
this
legislation,
and
so
I
am
wholly
in
support
of
this
and
to
see
what,
with
the
staff's
expertise,
they
can
determine
to
be
the
full
cost,
both
from
the
environmental
perspective
but
just
financially
as
well,
and
the
burden
that
may
be
placed
on
the
taxpayer.
W
I'm
I'm
fully
in
support
of
this
motion,
because
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we're
able
to
demonstrate
with
that
expertise
just
how
much
costs
may
be
passed
on
to
the
taxpayer,
but
also
the
additional
cost
in
terms
of
Human
Resources
expertise.
Etc.
So
thank
you
very
much
again
for
that.
N
Thank
you,
your
worship.
The
purpose
of
this
motion
is
just
basically
a
catch-up
motion,
so
it
was
all
in
the
timing
of
from
the
former
Council
to
when
we
got
sworn
in
and
then
tonight
when
we
have
our
first
official
business,
so
the
board
members
of
the
crca
on
and
the
CAO
the
day
before
our
last
day
of
the
former
Council.
N
So
it
was
the
Sunday
received
a
letter
to
all
of
the
Eastern
from
the
eastern
Ontario
conservation
authorities
and
it
went
on
to
list
what
the
concerns
were
for
Bill
23
and
it
was
asking
the
Mayors
to
sign
a
letter
for
that's
for
these
concerns.
The
deadline
was
November
17th
and
our
new
Council,
like
we
sort
of
came
on
board
on
the
Tuesday.
N
The
the
this
letter
was
supposed
to
be
signed
on
the
Wednesday
day,
but
we
weren't
being
sworn
in
till
the
following
week,
but
here
we
are
tonight
and
so
we're
just
catching
up.
I'm
now
saying
please,
you
know
sign
this
letter.
Let's
put
our
hat
into
it.
To
you
know,
support,
oh
the,
the
other
municipalities
that
have
signed
it
have
already
had
their
meeting.
You
know
to
bring
it
to
Queen's
Park
all
the
concerns
that
we
have
that
we've
already
discussed
tonight
for
Bill
23.
X
The
the
this
at
this
point,
but
we
feel
it's
really
important,
that
we
add
our
name
to
that
list.
I
think
Kingston
was
conspicuously
absent
according
to
people
I've
heard
from
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
great
opportunity
for
us
to
to
join
them
in
our
opposition
to
build
23..
Thank
you.
B
B
Non-Compliant
for
collection,
accessibility
and
processing,
whereas
the
largest
waste
diversion
program,
the
blue
box
sees
the
first
communities
transition
in
a
few
months.
Ensuring
the
regulator
has
appropriate
enforcement
tools
to
ensure
servicing
and
outcomes
are
met
is
critical
for
a
smooth
transition
for
ontarians.
N
Thank
you,
your
worship,
so
I
just
want
to
explain
what
this
motion
means.
So
this
problem
was
raised
to
me
by
one
of
my
constituents
fairly
recently
and
the
province
for
those
of
us
that
have
been
on
Council
before
we
know
that
the
province
right
now
is
moving
towards
producer
responsibility
for
recycling
and
there's
a
governing
body
called
the
resource,
productivity
and
Recovery
Authority.
That
is
supposed
to
act
like
the
police
right.
They
are
the
regulator
and
their
job
is
to
make
sure
that
the
producers
are
actually
doing
proper
recycling.
N
However,
the
regulator
right
now
cannot
impose
any
fines
right.
So
that's,
what's
called
the
administrative
penalty
on
that
regulation
has
not
been
signed
off
yet,
and
so
basically
the
regulator
you
know
at
to
the
bed-
producers
yeah,
they
can
say
you
know
smarten
up,
you
shouldn't
be
allowed
to
do
this,
but
they
can't
impose
any
fines.
So
our
honorable
MPP
Ted
Shu,
he's
become
aware
of
the
problem
and
just
last
week
he
submitted
a
question
to
Queen's
Park.
That
says,
you
know.
Would
the
minister
of
the
environment,
conservation
and
Parks?
N
Please
indicate
the
government
plan
to
change
the
enforcement
Powers
right.
We
need
enforcement
Powers.
The
regulator
needs
enforcement
powers
to
make
sure
every
all
the
producers
are
doing.
You
know
the
proper
recycling,
so
Amo
worked
with
this
motion
that
we
see
tonight
where
the
first
municipality
to
do
this
motion.
N
If
this
motion
passes
tonight
this
resolution,
hopefully
then
other
municipalities
will
see
it
because
they'll
get
it
in
their.
You
know
written
correspondence
and
Communications
for
their
City
Council
meetings
and
hopefully
they'll
pass
their
own
resolutions
and
we'll
start
from
the
ground
up.
You
know
trying
to
have
the
government
then
sign
the
administration
penalties
regulation.
That
is
what
we
want
past.
We
know
that,
right
now,
it's
in
the
battery
right,
like
our
home
batteries
rate,
durso,
Energizer,
double
a
triple
A
our
home
batteries,
but
the
blue
box.
N
Recycling
for
producer
responsibility
is
about
to
start
up
in
2023
is
starting
up
in
July
in
Toronto,
then
Oshawa
Pickering
in
July,
2024,
and
so
on.
It
Rose
out
to
Kingston
I
think
in
2025
or
2026.
So
it's
important
to
get
this
Administration
penalties
passed,
and
that
is
what
we're
asking
for
tonight.
Thank
you.
B
H
Through
you,
Mr
Mayor,
just
a
question:
do
you
know
where
it's
stalled
in
the
process
in
terms
of
Passage
of
Regulation.
N
Through
your
worship,
I
have
not
heard,
but
now
with
our
honorable
MPP
Ted
Shu
asking
that
question
you
know
hopefully
we'll
find
out
where
it
is
because
his
other
question
is
if
there
is
a
plan
to
change
the
enforcement
Powers.
What
is
that
plan?
So?
Hopefully
there
is
a
plan,
but
I
haven't
heard
where
it's
stalled.
No.
B
Okay,
Council.
L
Yeah,
thank
you,
mayor,
Patterson,
and
just
a
reminder
that
John
Jordan
should
be
included
in
that,
as
he
is
in
in
in
with
the
sitting.
Government
and
I'm
ought
to
have
a
greater
ability
to
bring
this
to
to
to
the
floor.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
noted.
Thank
you,
cancer,
ostroff.
Okay.
If
there's
no
other
discussion,
we
will
call
the
vote
on
New
Motion
number
five,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that's
carried
okay,
so
that
takes
us
to
the
end
of
New
Motion.
So
there
are
any
notices
of
motion
seeing
none
Madame
Deputy,
clear
cross
for
minutes.
Please.
B
K
You
I
recall
from
my
first
two
terms
that
in
the
first
council
meeting
we
often
delegate
authority
to
staff
in
many
cases,
I'm
wondering
something
has
changed,
because
it
wasn't
in
any
of
the
reports
today,
I'm
wondering.
When
will
we
actually
delegate
the
authority
that
we
normally
do.
Y
Thank
you
and
through
Mr
Mayor,
so
that's
correct,
counselor
McLaren
and
we
will
have
a
report
coming
at
the
next
council
meeting
with
some
delegate,
Authority
and
they're
in
different
departments.
So
some
of
them
would
be
other
social
services
with
child
care,
for
example,
Etc
to
be
able
to
implement
the
work
as
a
service
manager,
and
we
will
reinstate
The
Proposal
of
providing
quarterly
reports
which
we
were
I
think
prior
to
the
pandemic
and
somehow
that
got
lost
through
the
process.
B
Okay,
with
that
Madam
Deputy
request
for
bylaws,
please.
C
Thank
you
before
I
start
reading.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
bylaw
number
two
has
been
withdrawn
because
that
was
associated
with
option.
One
of
the
consider
report.