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Nominations Advisory Committee from June 28, 2022. For full agenda details visit https://bit.ly/39Xpuwc
A
Is
that
a
promise
all
right?
So
we
do
have
the
live
stream
going
now
so
good
evening.
Everybody
welcome
to
the
first
meeting
of
the
nominations
committee.
This
year
we
do
have
quorum.
Counselor
hutchinson
is
not
in
attendance
from
staff.
You
have
myself
derek
gautier,
the
acting
deputy
city
clerk
and
elizabeth
fawcett,
the
meeting
host,
and
there
are
no
members
of
the
public
currently
in
attendance.
A
B
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
mover
from
kelsey
chappelle:
do
we
have
a
second
year
for
counselor
stroud
as
chair
counselor,
neil
all
right,
I'm
just
going
to
jot
this
down
quickly.
In
that
case,
we
will
call
the
vote
all
in
favor
and
that
carries
excellent
and
one
last
item
before
I
turn
it
over
to
counselor.
Counselor
stroud
as
chair
is
the
vice
chair
position.
Are
there
any
nominations
or
volunteers,
councillor,
neil
oh
you're,
just
on
mute,
counselor,
neil
I'd.
A
C
Okay,
so
you'll
see
from
the
agenda
that
was
item
one
election
of
officers.
That
only
happens
the
first
meeting
of
the
year,
so
you
won't
see
that
next
time,
so
we've
called
the
meeting
to
order.
We
need
to
approve
the
agenda.
You'll
see
the
agenda
on
in
your
package
there,
so
it
needs
to
be
moved
first
and
then
we
can
discuss
the
agenda.
You
know
move
over
to
secondary
movement,
counselor
hill,
secondary
counselor,
neil
and
okay.
So
it's
on
the
floor.
Does
anyone
have
any
proposed
changes
to
the
agenda.
C
B
Yes,
in
the
minutes,
it
did
not
depict
the
purpose
of
the
survey
to
those
candidates
who
are
not
successful
in
the
nomination
to
be
have
the
clerk's
office
reach
out
to
them
and
inquire
what
they
felt
was
the
barrier
of
systemic
racism
or
whatever
this
issue
was
that
prevented
them
from
being
or
what
they
perceived
to
prevent
them
from
being
appointed,
and
that
wasn't
reflected
in
the
minute.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
duly
noted.
A
All
I
would
ask
is
I
can
follow
up
with
counselor
chappelle
after
the
fact
just
to
make
sure
we
put
the
exact
comments
that
he
wants
in
there,
because
I
was
not
in
attendance
at
that
meeting.
So
I'll
follow
up
and
we
can
have
the
minutes
then
amended
for
approval
to
ensure
that
comment
is
included
in
the
right
place.
A
C
C
B
So
there's
there's
no
vote
on
this
this
evening,
but
I
certainly
have
some
questions.
The
the
survey
was
sent
out
to
334
people
of
which
61
received
responses
for
from
the
survey.
There
are
some
interesting
comments
that
came
out
of
the
survey,
which
I
think
are
certainly
things
that
we
should
consider
adopting.
B
A
B
C
Yeah-
that
was
sorry,
I'm
going
to
jump
in
here
and
share
that
was
debated
at
council.
I
I
do
recall
about
adding
those
members.
It
was
not
a
unanimous
vote,
but
it's
been
debated
and
passed
by
council,
so
I
I
don't
see
how
we
can
reopen
that
question.
Mr
clerk,
unless
we
get
a
motion
of
reconsideration
at
council,
is
that
correct.
A
So
through
you,
mr
chair,
the
actual
approval
of
the
recommendations
that
would
have
changed
things
for
the
nomination
process
were
actually
deferred,
so
it
was
not
decided
upon,
and
if
you,
if
I
may,
I
do
have
some
more
information
to
add
to
counselor
chapelle's
comments.
Okay,
yeah
go
ahead.
There
was
a
question
on
the
survey.
If
you
look
at
page
five
question
three,
which
asks
for
the
survey
respondents
to
indicate
their
support
for
amending
the
nominations,
advisory
committee
to
add
three
public
members
from
the
city's
edi
committee.
A
That
survey
received
65.6
either
strongly
agree
or
disagree.
18
were
neutral
and
then
approximately
16
were
in
the
disagree
or
strongly
disagree
and
counselor
chappelle
is
also
correct.
There
were
comments
on
that
survey
where
some
people
expressed
concern
with
having
members
of
the
public
making
decisions
that
they
felt
were
best
made
by
council,
but
there
were
also
comments
stating
that
they
people
preferred
to
have
members
of
the
public
appointing
people
to
committees
as
opposed
to
political
members.
C
C
B
It's
I'm
I'm
very
concerned
to
where
this
this
is
an
information
report,
we're
not
voting
on
it.
There
are
some
some
really
good
ideas
that
are
presented
in
that
report
that
I
fully
support.
You
know
the
the
term
restriction
from
reduction
from
six
to
four
years,
the
the
aspect
of
being
more
open
on
on
announcing
to
the
unsuccessful
applicant.
B
There's
also
the
opportunity
like
we
do
for
people
who
are
running
for
municipal
council
as
their
names
get
submitted
to
the
clerk
they
get
posted
under
each
different,
each
each
different
organization
that
their
or
board
they
wish
to
sit
on,
so
that
a
person
knows
that
they're
in
competition
for
one
spot
with
26
other
members
of
the
public.
That
will
help
address
a
lot
of
the
concerns
of
understanding
the
open
scene,
transparency,
but
right
now,
it's
like
this.
C
Yeah,
so
maybe
I'll
just
go
back
to
the
clerk
derek
for
because
we
need
to
have
this
well
framed.
If
we're
going
to
have
any
relevant
questions,
the
deferral
is
by
council
to
come
back
to
council.
The
deferral
asks
specifically
to
be
to
consult
with
the
people
that
were
unsuccessful,
but
also
with
us.
So
that's
why
it's
here
as
an
information
report,
so
this
this
is
satisfying
the
language
in
the
deferral
motion
that
consult
with
the
nomination
advisory
committee.
However,
an
information
report
doesn't
come
back,
doesn't
generate
any
recommendations.
C
A
So
I
can
speak
to
that
mr
chair.
The
next
step
will
be
at
the
conclusion
of
this
meeting.
A
supplemental
report
will
be
drafted
containing
the
information
discussed,
the
feedback
received
both
from
the
survey
and
in
this
nominations,
committee
meeting
that
will
go
to
council
to
supplement
the
deferred
motion
when
it
appears
back
on
the
agenda.
A
The
schedule
for
that
is
the
august
meeting
and
at
the
meeting,
then
council
members
will
be
able
to
see
the
discussion
and
then
move
any
appropriate
changes
or
amendments
that
they
wish
to
see
to
the
recommendation
that
is
technically
still
within
their
hands
at
this
point.
So
that
is
why
this
is
an
information
report
is
that
the
original
motion
is
still
in
the
hands
of
council.
At
this
point,.
C
Right,
we
I
mean,
I
understand,
there's
only
certain
forms
of
report
can
take
and
it's
this
is
not
a
recommendation
report,
but
it's
it's
they're
seeking
conflict
consultation
council
seeking
council
consultation
with
this
committee,
and
for
that
consultation
to
be
meaningful,
I
guess
all
we're
doing
is
where
our
comments
are
being
noted
by
the
clerks
and
will
be
passed
on
to
council
in
the
form
of
of
a
summary.
Is
that
right
that
what
you
just
said.
C
C
These
will
not
be
subject
to
a
vote
of
the
committee
because
of
the
structure,
but
the
suggestions
will
go
to
council,
so
counselor
chapelle.
I
would
suggest
that
you
frame
your
comments
in
in
the
form
of
suggestions
to
counsel
on
how
to
improve
the
nominations
process
and
that
those
suggestions
will
go
to
council
and
then
council,
through
amendment
and
whatnot,
can
can
work
on.
The
final
result
is
that
correct,
mr
chair
per
minute.
Sorry,
mr
clerk.
C
C
I
mean
there's
there's
we
can
maybe
to
focus
our
thoughts,
there's
issues
around
transparency
that
we've
heard
it
back
through
the
feedback;
transparency
as
in
people,
don't
understand
how
it
works
and
and
how-
and
it
seems
arbitrary
to
them
any
suggestions
that
we
can
improve.
Transparency
of
the
nominations
process.
B
I
I
don't
mean
to
dominate
the
majority
of
this
conversation
I,
but
I
would
suggest
that
one
thing
that
we
can
do
is
when
we
post
for
the
jobs
that
are
we're
looking
to
fill
and
the
community
that
the
current
structure
that
committee
or
whatever
organization
or
board
it
is,
has
an
opportunity
to
describe
the
types
of
skills
that
they're
looking
to
have
based
on
their
ongoing
recruitment
needs.
Maybe
they
need
someone
with
the
numeracy
skills,
or
maybe
they
need
someone
with
some
other
types
of
skills
that
should
be
first
and
foremost.
E
B
I
know
that
person
really
well,
I'm
not
going
to
bother-
or
I
think
that's
great
I'd
like
to
do
this
too,
and
put
my
name
forward.
I
I
think
you
need
to
have
that
would
be
the
greatest
transparent.
We
could
offer
the
public
because
then
they
would
know
the
intense
pressures
that
we
have
as
a
committee
in
making
those
selections,
because
there
might
be
26
names
for
one
vacancy.
C
A
So
yes,
through
you,
mr
chair
right
now,
we
do
not
ask
people
to
allow
us
to
publish
their
personal
information,
such
as
their
name
on
the
website.
As
a
member
of
council
who
is
somebody
who's
running
for
council,
we
had
you
sign
a
waiver
saying
that
you're
okay
with
us,
sharing
this
information.
So
we
can
definitely
do
that.
A
We
would
just
need
to
make
it
either
voluntary,
so
the
person
would
when
they
submit
their
application,
have
to
voluntarily
say
I'm
okay
with
you
sharing
my
name
on
the
city
website,
and
then
it
would
be
a
question
of
if
they
were
not
willing
to
consent.
To
that,
would
we
just
simply
keep
their
name
off
the
website
or
does
that
prohibit
them
from
applying?
A
C
From
a
legal
standpoint,
I
think
you're,
correct
and
of
course,
you'll
do
your
due
diligence
before
reporting
the
council
council
will
will
have
that
information
and
have
the
input
from
staff
on
that
subject,
and
you
know
council
can
determine
whether
what
to
do
with
that.
That's
one
suggestion
for
transparency.
A
So
through
mr
chair,
we
do
reach
out
to
unsuccessful
applicants.
You
will
notice
both
with
counselor
shapel's
comments
and
the
survey
results.
A
lot
of
the
applicants
want
to
know
perhaps
why
they
weren't
selected
the
one
difficulty
staff
has
in
providing
that
is.
We
are
not
ultimately
the
people
making
the
recommendation,
and
in
some
cases,
if
there
are
50
60
people
applying
the
committee
may
not
discuss
every
single
applicant,
so
there
may
not
be
feedback.
A
That's
just
one
of
the
barriers
we
experience
with
staff
is
that
we
are
not
responsible
for
determining
who
gets
selected.
That's
the
nomination
committee
and
we
may
not
know
the
reasons
why
the
committee
is
making
it
selection,
so
it
would
be.
I
agree
beneficial
to
let
people
know
if
there's
skills
that
they
might
be
missing
or
things
in
their
application,
but
there's
that
disconnect
with
it's
not
staff's
ultimate
decision
as
to
who
gets
appointed.
C
I
have
a
suggestion
on
that
score.
Having
been
part
of
these
nominations,
discussions
many
times
we
do
often
we
when
we're
having
our
discussions.
We
give
rationale
so,
for
example,
councilman
neil
might
say:
we've
we've
recommended
three
men
already
on
this
committee.
Maybe
gender
equity
should
be
sought
and
that
that's
the
reason
for
this
next
person
to
be
recommended
kind
of
thing,
so
gender
equity
is
given
as
a
reason.
C
A
B
B
The
rationale
will
be
recommended
for
why
we've
nominated
that
person
because,
as
you
know,
we're
sitting
around
the
table
and
we're
putting
forward
a
candidate
that
we
liked
after
we've
read
their
cv,
we're
often
pitching
why
we
like
this
candidate
and
maybe
the
successful
candidates
we
qualify
in
that
category.
Why
this
successful
candidate.
C
B
C
F
Well,
one
thing
that
we
used
to
do
when
I
worked
in
hr,
which
was
quite
a
long
time
ago,
was-
was
to
offer
people
a
debrief.
Most
people
in
this
kind
of
situation
wouldn't
wouldn't
request
that,
but
the
chair
of
the
committee,
if
someone
did,
could
sit
down
with
them
and
say
you
know
and
then
may
not
even
have
a
real
rationale
for
why
you
know
that
person
wasn't
chosen,
given
the
fact
there
could
be
so
many,
but
it
could
be
just
that
explanation.
F
C
D
I
think
you
could
almost
do
a
kind
of
form
letter
and
I'm
sure
the
clerks
already
have
done
some
of
that
in
the
wording.
But
if
you
point
out
that
you
know
we
have
a
large
number
of
applicants,
we
live
in
a
very,
very
engaged
community.
So
we
get
lots
of
applicants
for
positions
and
we
do.
We
are
conscious
of
gender
and
gender
equity
and
diversity
within
our
committees,
but
your
application
will
be,
as
the
clerks
always
say,
will
be
retained.
C
C
C
So
you
know
past
experience,
gender
diversity,
you
know
a
marginalized
group
or
or
a
member
of
a
minority,
those
all
the
different
demographic
categories
that
could
exist,
the
various
rationales
that
ever
come
up
and
would
be
all
listed,
and
then
that
you
could
just
tick
the
boxes
when
positive
nominations
are
made
for
individuals,
tick,
the
boxes
that
apply
to
those
individuals
and
then
the
feedback
to
all
that
ask
would
be
this
person
was
selected
because
of
this.
This,
and
this
reason
this
person
was
selected
because
of
this.
C
These
four
were
selected
for
these
various
reasons,
and
it's
all
just
very
matter
of
fact,
recorded
in
a
in
a
sort
of
like
counselor's
neil
sensing,
as
sort
of
a
form
letter
is,
do
you
think
that
kind
of
thing
would
be
workable
because
it
would
be
the
alternative
would
be?
We
would
have
to
write
a
rationale
for
every
applicant
that
is
chosen
so
that
it
can
be
transparent
to
the
public.
A
I
think
that
your
former
suggestion
of
determining
predetermined
categories
of
either
demographics
or
skills
and
then
using
that
to
create
a
form
letter
is
something
that
would
be
more
workable,
while
also
as
counselor
chapelle
has
pointed
out,
the
more
positive
aspects
of
speaking
about
the
reasons
why
candidates
were
selected
is
a
workable
solution.
So,
yes,
that's
something
that
can
be
developed.
I'd,
say:
offline
between
the
between
staff,
with
input
from
the
committee.
C
So,
mr
clerk,
do
you
understand
what
he's
saying
is
is
to
guide
the
application
process?
So
maybe
you
could
just
speak
to
how
the
application
process
goes
at
the
moment.
What
what
do
staff
tell
applicants
and
is
there
any
way
we
could
improve
that
initial
input
to
the
applicants
so
that
their
applications
contain
pertinent
and
fulsome
information.
A
Certainly,
mr
chair,
I
think
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
answer
your
last
question.
First,
which
may
be
able
to
cover
everything
what
I'm
understanding
from
counselor
neil
would
be
providing
applicants
in
advance
of
them,
submitting
an
application,
some
basic
tips
on
how
to
structure
a
good
application
so
making
sure
your
information
is
relevant,
perhaps
not
too
lengthy,
focusing
on
the
skills
and
the
requirements
of
the
committee
and
that
information
is
actually
shared
on
the
it's
on
the
city's
website.
A
When
people
go
when
we're
doing
a
recruitment,
there's
a
description
of
the
committee,
the
skills
and
requirements
so
we're
working
to
refine
that
and
keep
that
updated.
So
I
think
maybe
adding
some
general
for
lack
of
a
better
term
resume
or
application
tips
as
well
may
be
helpful.
We
want
we
want
to
help,
but
not
necessarily
guide
completely.
It's.
We
have
to
maintain
sort
of
a
neutrality,
but
I
think
there's
some
good
workable
solutions.
There.
Thank.
B
Yes,
thank
you,
council,
mr
chair.
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
lends
itself
to
some
reduction
of
conversation
over
particular
candidates
is
that
when
they
apply
it's
a
generalized
application
that
allows
the
applicant
to
put
their
first
second
and
third
choice,
and
with
that
we
have
sometimes
screened
out
applicants
that
it's
a
third
choice
for
a
position.
B
So
what
maybe
we
can
do
is
direct
the
can
the
applicant
that,
if
they're
interested
in
more
than
one
position
that
they
they
file
a
slightly
different
or
slightly
worded
skills-based
description
of
why
they
want
to
sit
on
that
position
rather
than
a
generalized
application,
because
I
think
that
is
probably
one
of
the
greatest
barriers
to
some
people
apply.
Everyone
wants
to
sit
on
housing,
homelessness
and
by
time
they
choose
the
taxi
commission.
C
Yeah,
I've
often
thought
about
this
issue
and
it
does
come
up
in
the
deliberations.
As
you
say,
mr
clerk,
can
you
do?
You
know
the
history
of
why
we
asked
for
the
three
choices
and
I
obviously
there's
an
obvious
superficial
answer
and
that's
because
people
are
often
qualified
for
more
than
one
committee
and
they
have
interest
in
more
than
one
committee
and
it's
a
lot
more
efficient
to
allow
that
flexibility.
But
is
there
any
other
reason
we
do
the
three
it's
been
going
on
for
a
long
time
or.
A
Mr
chair,
that
predates
my
time,
starting
with
the
clerks,
but
I
would
imagine
it
is,
as
you
described,
for
the
superficial
reason
of
allowing
people
to
rank
in
my
limited
experience.
We
have
also
had
times
when
people
were
appointed
to
perhaps
their
third
choice
and
they
then
come
to
us
and
say
I
actually.
I
really
didn't
want
to
serve
on
that.
I
felt
I
needed
to
pick
a
third
committee,
so
then
they
they
resign
instantly.
A
C
E
Well,
I
mean
I'm
just
I.
I
don't
think
that
we're
here
tonight
to
reshape
the
work
of
the
committee
and
I
think,
we're
moving
beyond
the
scope
of
what
of
this
information
report.
I'm
prepared
to
provide
input,
but
not
I
mean
it
didn't
come
here
this
evening
with
with
that
as
part
of
what
I
was
hoping
to
accomplish
in
this
meeting.
So
I
don't.
C
C
C
C
C
E
C
F
E
C
C
B
Knowing
that
we've
had
feedback
from
the
community,
knowing
that
we
have
some
improvements
from
the
expressions
presented
to
the
survey,
I
would
like
to
propose
that
we
strike
the
recommendation
of
having
the
edi
committee
members
as
being
voting
and
participatory
members
on
the
nominations
committee
until
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
introduce
these
new
amendments
and
see
if
we
actually
get
the
marked
improvements
and
on
or
perceive
marked
improvements
on
diversity
and
inclusion
on
the
future
nominations
that
happen.
This
fall.
C
C
A
Emotion,
mr
chair,
the
original
motion.
Basically
there's
nothing
specific
about
that.
In
terms
of
that
wording
that
counselor
chapelles
mentioned
the
one
recommendation
is
that
a
public
appointment
policy
be
approved
and
the
public
appointment
policy
contained
that
information.
So
my
suggestion
to
counselor
chappelle
is:
he
would
like
to
see
that
changed
is
that
motion
could
be
brought
up
when
the
deferred
motion
comes
back
at
council
in
august?
A
It
will
be
duly
noted
that
there
was
just
excuse
me
discussion
on
this
topic
in
the
information
report,
but
that
motion
is
still
in
the
hands
of
council
as
it
was
deferred.
It
was
the
motion
itself
wasn't
deferred
back
to
the
committee.
It
was
a
request
for
an
information
report,
so
it
can
be
noted
in
the
information
report
that
will
be
supplemental
and
then,
if
counselor
chapelle
wishes,
he
can
move
that
amending
motion.
So.
C
C
A
A
B
A
C
C
Okay,
any
other
aspects
of
the
changes
either
from
this
information
report
or
from
the
original
motion
that,
as
a
nominations
committee
member
having
gone
through
the
process,
would
you
would
like
to
suggest
we've
heard
about
transparency,
we've
heard
about
guiding
the
application
process.
We've
heard
about
the
the
recommendation
of
adding
members
anything
else.
B
A
A
Okay,
I
understand
so
through
you,
mr
chair
kedco,
was
the
only
committee
that
had
requested
to
see
applications
at
the
same
time
as
they
were
shared
with
the
committee.
No
other
external
boards
or
agencies
do
ask
for
that,
although
we
do
always
offer
to
external
boards
and
agencies
an
opportunity
to
come
to
the
committee
and
speak
to
the
committee
about
the
skills
and
requirements
of
the
board
to
sort
of
provide
additional
information.
But
there
has
not
been
any
uptake
on
that.
Yet,
although
that
may
change
going
forward.
C
C
All
right
so
there's
the
the
the
real
outcome
of
this
is
whether
and
to
what
point
we
reform
the
nominations
process
is
a
question
for
council.
All
of
us
are
members
of
council
so
come
prepared
at
the
night
of
that
discussion
with
possible
amendments.
If
you
want
any
and
look
forward
to
that
in
august
right,
mr
clark.
C
Okay,
so
now
we're
moving
on
to
item
eight
b,
which
is
consideration
of
applications
submitted
for
committee,
appointments,
there's
two
committees
that
need
applicants.
First,
the
election
compliance
audit
committee
needs
three
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
library
board.
So
first
is
election.
Compliance
audit
committee
appointments.
So,
mr
clark,
maybe
you
could
just
remind
us
how
the
process
works.
C
D
Yes,
jonathan
rose.
He
is
a
professor
with
a
concentration
on
elections
and
election
processes
at
queens,
he's
well
known
for
citizens
assembly,
which
is
a
process
that
that
he
encourages
and
has
been
very
successful
in
a
lot
of,
especially
in
kind
of
conflict
resolution
situations
he's
he's
he
would
be
an
excellent
he'd,
bring
a
lot
to
the
table
on
this
one.
The
other
person
I
I
chose
was
gail
mcallister
she's
a
lawyer,
but
has
a
concentration
in
conflict
resolution.
D
C
F
F
A
I'll
take
this
opportunity,
counselor
hill,
to
answer
your
question,
so
we
are
required
under
the
municipal
elections,
act
to
appoint
the
committee
every
I'll,
just
unmute,
councillor
stroud
there.
We
are
required
to
reappoint
every
election
term,
but
there's
no
reason
a
person
who
is
an
incumbent
can't
be
appointed
again
and
I'll
leave
it
to
the
committee
to
determine.
If
there's
any
value.
I
will
let
you
know
that
the
election
audit
compliance
committee
did
not
meet
during
its
term
as
there
were
no
requests
for
their
services.
F
F
D
C
B
The
elusive
mute
button,
mr
chair
yeah,
I
actually
concur
with
counselor
hill
for
mark
this
one
down
that
michael
bell
would
be
a
suitable
because
of
his
experience.
I
thought
that
continuity
was
was
good
going
forward.
We've
had
a
lot
of
changes,
especially
you
know,
with
signed
bylaws
going
into
this
next
election,
and
I
did
like
christopher
maria
mariota
as
well,
and
I
really
don't
have
a
third
preference.
So
I'm
open
to
the
the
committee's
recommendations.
A
C
A
C
Right
right:
okay,
so
maybe
we'll
just
take
it
30
seconds
to
look
at
the
list
again,
having
heard
the
comments
and
we're
where,
before
we
vote,
we
need
to
decide,
we
need
to
okay.
I'm
gonna
ask
for
the
committee's
opinion
on
this
on,
because
we
have
a
flexible
number
of
appointees.
We
could
possibly
go
to
four.
C
D
C
I
mean,
I
think,
with
the
knowledge
that
they
did
not
meet
in
the
la
after
the
last
election.
They
weren't
their
services
weren't
required,
so
it
didn't
it
didn't.
Maybe
mr
clerk
could
speak
to
the
reason.
Maybe
staff
prefer
a
smaller
number.
Is
it
because
successful
applicants
require
extra,
they
need
to
be
trained
for
the
committee,
and
so
on.
Is
that
why.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
There
I
can't
speak
to
a
specific
reason
other
than
it's
a
manageable
number
based
on
the
size.
I
will
also
point
out
that
the
committee
mandate
that
was
approved
by
council
states
three
members
as
well,
so
I
realize
that
should
maybe
used
as
a
limiting
factor
is
that
the
council
approved
the
mandate
which
states
three
members.
A
Act
says
three
to
seven
correct,
so
we
technically
are
correct
by
having
three
members
in
the
committee
mandate,
so
you
would
be.
The
committee
would
technically
be
acting
outside
the
approved
mandate
by
appointing
more
members,
so
just
to
add
to
it.
I
think
three
members
is
sufficient,
but
I
will
leave
it
to
you.
If
you
wish
to
go
more,
I
think
we
should.
C
Just
go
ahead
and
have
the
vote
on
the
members
and
then,
if
we
get
multiple
votes
on
multiple
members
and
we
have
more
than
four
or
more
than
three
on
you
know
in
a
runoff,
then
maybe
we
can
talk
about
that
again.
Okay,
so
we'll
go
through
the
list.
Now,
there's
five
of
us,
maybe
you'll,
keep
the
three
votes
each
and
see
what
we
get
from
our
first
round
of
voting.
C
A
A
A
C
And
who
and
the
one
with
two
was
steven
zeltario
that
is
correct.
Okay,
so
first
we'll
take
a
vote
on
the
three
that
got
a
majority
of
support
or
maybe
just
a
opportunity
to
comment.
Does
anyone
have
any
comments
against
appointing
those
three
things?
They
all
had
a
majority
support
from
the
committee.
C
C
D
And
as
I
understand
it
and
derek
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
if
we
could
make
that
recommendation
for
the
three
and
make
the
recommendation
that
a
fourth
be
added
and
that
this
person
had
the
majority
but
count
council
would
have
to
amend
the
terms
of
reference
of
in
at
the
august
meeting.
I'm
assuming
to
to
make
for
a
fourth
member.
Is
that
accurate,
mr
clerk.
A
I
can
answer
that,
technically
it
is
allowable,
it
would
just
require
some
different
wording
in
terms
of
making
changes
to
the
actual
the
it
would
require
a
by-law
amendment
to
change
the
committee
mandate,
which
is
part
of
the
bylaw,
so
it
would
be
a
bit
of
a
tricky
process.
I
won't
lie
so,
and
I
see
mr
chair,
you
have
a
couple
of
other
hands
up
there
as
well.
F
B
Council,
expel
actually,
my
my
lead
follows
counselor
hill.
What
I
was
going
to
recommend
if
we
feel
compelled
to
have
a
fourth
person
deemed
to
be
an
alternate
if
the
vacancy
arrives,
so
that
we
have,
we
don't
have
to
call
a
nomination
process
in
the
normal
election.
That
person
can
attend
all
meetings
and
observe
and
maybe
be
prepared
for
the
next
time,
but
be
serving
as
an
alternate.
A
We
don't
have
a
process
for
alternate,
so
unfortunately
that
would
not
be
allowable
would
not
be
in
order.
I've
also
sorry
counselor
chappelle.
If
we,
if
we
get
the
policy
passed,
then
yes
that
will
be
possible,
but
not
at
this
time.
I've
also
been
advised
that
changing
the
recommendation
on
the
mandate
would
actually
require
a
motion
of
reconsideration
as
well.
So
it
would
be
considerably
trickier
because
it's
reconsidering
a
previous
decision
of
counsel
within
the
calendar
year,
so
it
would
be
a
very
tricky
situation
with
perhaps
not
a
lot
of
benefits.
A
C
C
C
C
A
C
E
Sure
I
have
three
as
a
short
list
and
I'm
happy
with
with
any
really
I
have
anna
couch,
andre,
deganye
and
elizabeth
goodyear.
Grant.
The
I
mean
under
andre
de
garnier
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
the
field.
I
think,
as
does
anna
couch
and
their
applications
were
very
strong.
Elizabeth
goodyear
grant
has
a
lot
of
similar
experience
and
what
I
think
just
has
the
general
expertise.
That
would
be
very
helpful
for
this
committee,
but
yeah
as
I
said,
that
those
are
just
three
suggestions.
C
And
thank
you
thank
you
for
that.
So
she
recommended
three,
mr
clerk.
Before
we
go
any
further,
can
you
just
remind
us
composition
of
the
library
board
and
the
term
the
length
of
term
and
you've
already
told
us
about
how
it
is
concurrent
with
council.
So
this
was
a
resignation
from
the
library
board.
I
believe,
and
that
we're
failing
the
next
time,
how
many
people
will
be
appointing
and
and
what
is
the
length
of
term.
A
F
Thanks
so
I
my
recommendation
is
dr
mark
asberg
and
the
reason
for
that
is
he.
He
has
a
master's
degree
in
library,
information,
science.
He
was
appointed
as
vice
provost
university
librarian
at
queen's.
I
think
he
said
that
he
was
also
the
ceo.
Yes,
the
ceo
of
the
calgary
public
library,
so
his
experience
is
pretty
pretty
tough
to
beat
so
I
I
certainly
he
stood
out
among
the
candidates
the
most
for
me
and
I
think
the
library
board
has
pretty
good
gender
representation
on
it
right
now.
A
C
B
D
Despite
my
frustration
at
a
previous
presentation
by
by
the
library
the
reality
is,
they
have
an
excellent
professional
staff,
and
so
they
don't
need
more
library,
experts.
We
are
we're
appointing
community
representatives
and
those
are
people
who
are
bringing
the
idea
that
their
their
family
are
really
active
library,
users
and
such
so.
So.
Keep
that
in
mind
when,
when
we're
we're
picking
one,
I
had
three
people.
D
I
know
it's
one
physician,
but
I
had
three
people
I
agreed
with
dr
elizabeth
goodyear:
grant
she
has
a
human
rights
background,
she's
a
poli-sci
prof,
who
has
worked
with
both
ban
re
and
interval
house.
So
she
would
be
a
really
good
community
representative
on
this
committee.
Dorothy
ann
brown
is
a
nurse
and
a
writer
and
active
in
the
community
in
those
in
those
areas.
D
D
C
C
A
C
C
D
A
F
C
A
E
A
C
A
B
F
C
C
C
C
Right
could
be
this
term,
maybe
not
I'd
like
to
thank
everyone
for
their
service
on
the
nominations
committee,
this
term
in
case
it's
our
last
meeting
and
I'm
looking
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
by
councillor
hill
second
by
councillor,
neil
all
those
in
favor
all
right.
Thanks
a
lot
everyone,
we
done
derek.