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Nominations Advisory Committee from November 29, 2021. For the full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3FXa4Ck.
A
B
Okay,
well,
we
might
just
get
going
then,
because
we
do
have
some
addeds
to
approve,
so
we'll
start
out.
First
of
all,
call
the
meeting
to
order.
Welcome
everybody.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Next,
just
draw
your
attention
to
the
addeds
that
we
received,
which
includes
several
delegations
and
some
correspondence.
B
Okay,
so
that's
what
we'll
do?
Can
I
have
a
motion
to
prove
the
agenda
with
the
others?
Please
move
by
counselor
nail
second
by
councillor
hutchinson
great!
Thank
you
all.
Those
in
favor
proposed
carrie.
Thank
you
very
much
and
okay.
So
then
the
next
is
confirmation
of
our
minutes
from
the
september
13th
meeting.
Can
I
have
a
mover
to
approve
those
minutes.
Please
move
the
council
rajasthan
second
by
counselor
chapelle.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
caries
thanks.
B
B
B
A
A
B
C
D
The
last
year
has
been
stressful
on
us
all,
with
coverdep
with
the
covet
epidemic,
but
has
been
multiplied
tenfold
for
those
in
the
tax
industry
by
the
reckless
unknowledgeable
actions
of
this
commission.
With
little
or
no
consultation
with
the
industry,
there
has
been
no
cry
from
the
public
or
industry
for
the
wholesale
changes
or
how
the
commission
operates,
or
many
proposed
bylaws.
D
These
have
been
driven
mainly
by
mr
dowser,
who
has
very
little
knowledge
of
the
of
the
industry
and
how
it
operates.
Despite
the
fact
his
grandfather
owned
a
plate
in
toronto.
Currently
we
are,
we
have
totally.
We
have
a
totally
dysfunctional
transportation
industry.
The
taxi
industry
has
lost
all
faith
and
trust
in
the
present
commission
and
communicate
communication
between
the
two
essential
bodies
have
broken
down.
For
the
most
part,
this
has
occurred
under
the
leadership
of
mr
dowser,
who
should
take
responsibility
as
one
of
the
main
architects
of
this
reality.
D
Here
are
a
few
examples.
I'm
sure
everyone
received
my
letter
of
july
september,
30th
there
july
directive
that
all
dormant
place
must
be
put
back
on
the
road
during
the
present
pandemic,
ruled
by
executive
order
and
not
following
the
actual
bylaws,
which
are
well
thought
out
and
have
worked
for
many
years,
the
issue
with
renewals
etc.
D
All
all
past
directives
have
been
withdrawn
and
are
presently
shelved,
which
means,
I
believe,
that
the
reintroduction
of
mr
dowser,
if
he's
reappointed,
will
be
brought
off
this
shelf
industries.
Letters
received
from
the
public
and
tax
initiative
are
not
printed
for
everyone
to
see,
as
most
are
critical,
I
believe
of
mr
dowser's
control
over
social
media
of
the
commission
itself,
ignoring
the
bylaws.
D
They
chose
they
ignoring
the
bylaws
they
choose
and
issuing
directives,
as
this
is
now
the
executive
privilege
they
possess
above
the
bylaws,
they
think
refusing
to
make
public
the
auto
they
audited
financial
statements
to
the
public
or
the
industry
who
collect
all
who
they
collect.
All
the
funding
from
this
has
been
present
for
many
many
decades
changing
the
licensing
practice,
even
though
this
is
laid
out
in
the
bylaw
as
apparently.
This
is
now
an
executive
decision,
as
with
the
financial
statements.
D
The
mismanagement
and
almost
total
disregard
of
the
tax
industry
is
evident.
No
longer
do
we
have
a
somewhat
independent,
knowledgeable
and
efficient
bureaucracy.
Many
commissions
have
keys
to
the
taxi
commission
office,
including
mr
dowser,
who
is
often
there.
This
proxy
was
a
stabilizing
force
and
knowledgeable
one
that
could
advise
new
commissioners
on
the
issues
of
the
tax
industry
and
ensure
smooth
transitions.
D
All
these
great
changes,
I
would
assert,
have
not
been
even
noticed
by
the
public,
but
the
industry
and
myself
have
noticed
more
cars
with
unpainted
body
parts
and
a
commission
office
which
seems
disorderly
and
confused.
They
are.
They
are
disregarding
the
core
purpose
of
sending
out
renewal
notices,
safety
notices
and
inspections.
D
D
D
This
is
the
problem
with
all
direct
directives,
executive,
privilege,
objectives
are
now
discussed
behind
closed
doors
in
camera
and
apparently
no
concern
of
the
consequences
or
impact
on
the
industry.
They
know
from
the
limited
knowledge
what
is
best
for
us
and
we
have
become
the
subject
of
the
rule
by
the
executive
and
at
times
instead.
D
E
D
Sure
the
first
one
is
the
deal
with
renewals.
The
renewals
are
done,
it's
laid
out
in
the
bylaw.
They
have
to
have
them
by
december
15th,
you
know
or
december
30th.
They
can't
they
have
to
renew
their
license.
So
it's
all
laid
out
in
the
bylaw
and
basically
we
got
a
directive
decision
saying
no,
that's
not
the
way
it
operates
anymore.
It's
gonna
operate
on
your
birthday
now
and-
and
this
is
during
renewal
time
so
and
there's
confusion-
well
massive
confusion
in
the
industry
of
okay.
What
is
my
birthday?
D
Sorry,
what?
If
my
birthday
is
this
date
or
that
date
or
whatever,
but
there
was
no
reason
or
open
discussion
when
these
bylaws
were
created
with
renewing
license,
they
were
created
over
many
years
and
with
the
industry
and
adapted
and
it
works
wonderfully
and
they
just
came
in
and
said.
Okay,
we're
just
going
to
throw
this
completely
out
and
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
do
this
new
system
because
it
works
better
for
us
now.
The
reasoning
is,
is
that
which
I
don't
understand?
D
Is
they
get
80
of
their
budget
or
their
income
during
renewal
time?
And
it's
very
efficient
because
it's
done
over
a
period
of
two
months.
Everyone
knows
it's
done
in
these
these
two
months
and
then
in
january.
First
we
get
a
letter
of
all
the
drivers
that
are
approved
and
all
the
drivers
are
not
approved
and
during
those
those
that
time
the
office
remains
open
longer.
D
So
during
the
year,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
business
that
takes
place
through
open
just
from
nine
to
12,
because
it's
all
done
in
that
one
section
so
and
everyone
knows
what
the
rules
are
and
just
at
renewal
time
they
decide.
No
we're
going
to
change
all
the
rules,
we're
going
to
ignore
the
bylaw
and
then
we're
going
to
do
what
we
want
right.
D
D
Another
example
is:
there's
a
bylaw
that
says
that
we
cannot
sell
our
plates,
so
we
have
a
bylaw
in
existence
that
says
we
cannot
sell
our
plates.
If
someone
dies
in
the
industry
and
has
a
plate,
their
estate
can
sell
the
business.
It's
been
a
bylaw
for
many
many
years,
I'm
not
objecting
to
the
new
bylaw.
I'm
just
saying
that
that
is
the
bylaw
presently
in
the
bylaw
that
was
passed
over
committees
and
stuff
like
that,
so
they
came
out.
What
happened
is
the
the
new
commissioner
was
allowed
to
sell
her
plate?
Of
course?
D
In
the
end,
this
industry,
small
everyone,
knew
that
another
individual
was
allowed
to
sell
his
plate
and
we
said
well,
you
know
what
is
you're
going,
the
commission's
going
against
their
own
bylaw
here.
So
then,
rather
than
change
the
bylaw
or
discussions,
we
just
got
a
directive
saying:
oh
now,
you
can
sell
your
plates,
but
still
in
the
bylaw,
it
still
says
the
original
bylaw,
because
the
bylaw
hasn't
been
changed.
B
F
D
Well,
there
is,
the
city
was
reluctant.
The
plates
are
at
least
I
guess
to
us
on
a
yearly
basis.
As
long
as
we're
you
know,
we
have
good
behavior
right
right
and
we
actually
wanted
to
be
able
to
sell
our
plates.
So
it's
not
something
I'm
disagreeing
with
it's
just
that
the
bylaw
has
not
been
changed
formally.
You
know
with
a
vote,
and
you
know
second
and
third
reading
and
another
reading
open
discussion.
D
It
was
just
done
by
executive
order
and
the
bylaws
still
stands.
So
what
was
the
question?
Why
why
weren't
we
allowed
to
sell
our
planes,
there's
a
feeling
on
the
commission
that
we
shouldn't
be
allowed
to
because
we
never
bought
them
in
the
first
place,
but
many
people
have
owned
them
like
myself
for
30
years,
so
we
almost
but
the
reason
you
were
allowed
to
sell
the
the
plate
when
you
passed
away.
Is
that
many
many
owners
and
drivers?
D
Yeah,
okay,
well,
the
the
taxi
commission
sets
the
number
and
the
number
is
based
on
population.
I
think
it's
one
plate
for
every
1800
people
or
something
like
that
and
and
that
was
created,
so
there
wasn't
500
plates
out
there
and
everyone
was
starving
right.
All
the
drivers
and
brokers
were
starving,
the
car
quality
of
the
cars
go
down,
etc.
D
C
G
D
Well,
I
don't
think
we
had
cars
18
years,
but
I
could
be
wrong.
There
is,
I
think,
the
cars
that
the
oldest
car
was
something
like
15
years
old.
I
don't
think
there
was
17
year
old
plates
that
you
know
the
commission
itself
had
a
rule
that
they
had
to
be
10
years
old,
but
it
was
assumed
that
if
the
car
was
in
good
shape,
the
commissioner
had
the
option
to
let
it
go
to
12
years,
but
there
had
to
be
safety
three
times
a
year.
D
A
lot
of
the
plates
fell
behind
mr
chappelle,
because
a
lot
of
the
cars
have
been
sitting
for
the
last
two
years
that
the
owners
have
not
been
making
money
and
have
not
had
the
opportunity.
So
the
a
large
reason
why
the
plates
some
of
the
place
got
so
old,
was
the
fact
of
the
epidemic
because
they
they
weren't
replaced
because
they
weren't
really
on
the
road.
A
lot
of.
G
B
B
Move
on
to
the
next
delegation,
who
is
brian
campbell,
modern
city
taxi
here
to
present
regarding
consideration
of
applications
for
committee,
appointments,
kingston
area
taxi.
Commissioner
commission.
So
we
have
five
minutes
to
speak.
I
see
you,
mr
campbell
and
you're,
not
on
me,
so
go
ahead
when
you're
ready.
H
Yes,
first
of
all,
thank
you
very
much,
and
I
would
like
to
thank
mr
greenwood
for
his
concerns
brought
forward
to
your
attention.
First
of
all,
did
you
did
everyone
receive
my
email?
Yes,
thank
you.
Okay,
great
I've
been
approached
in
the
last
three
four
five
six
weeks
with
multiple
multi
hundreds
of
people
in
around
the
industry
that
are
very,
very
concerned
of
what's
taken
place
in
the
last
several
months
with
the
taxi
commission.
H
H
If
something
isn't
changed,
the
brokers
and
industry
will
change
it.
I
would
prefer
we
could
do
it
through
administration
through
constellation
to
you,
know,
communication
and
getting
the
stakeholders
that
are
all
involved
and
and
coming
to
a
very,
very
safe
community
in
our
community.
The
reason
the
taxi
commission
was
formed
in
the
first
place
is
safety.
Safety
is
ceremony
when
a
single
mother
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
needs
to
take
your
child
to
the
hospital.
H
It's
probably
going
to
be
a
taxi
cab
that
takes
her
there,
so
there
is
an
actual
valid
reason
why
this
industry
is
there
and
what
we
do
and
how
we
involve
with
our
community
and
overall,
what
we've
seen
in
the
last
several
months
is
not
supporting
or
helping
our
industry
at
all
it
it
it.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense.
What's
going
on.
Mr
greenwood
has
gone
over
many
many
points,
so
I
won't
go
over
them
again,
but
we
have
been
subject
to
very
many
disruptive
changes
with
the
byla
or
ad
hoc.
H
I
guess
ad
hoc,
you
would
call
it.
We
don't
understand
it
ourselves.
We
don't
even
know
where
we're
at
most
of
the
time.
The
changes
I
know
most
of
yous
don't
want
to
hear
us
get
into
the
weeds,
but
there's
a
reason.
We're
here
speaking
tonight,
there's
a
reason:
the
plate
renewal
process,
the
driver's
renewal
process.
H
H
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
if
you
watch
the
news
than
last
like
a
month
ago,
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
there
was
a
banded
taxi
that
you
know
took
people's
credit
cards
information.
Whatever
there's
a
reason.
We
have
structure
we
support,
structure,
we
support
having
a
real
inspector.
We
support.
You
know
why
we
have
all
this
structure,
but
we
have
not
witnessed
this
in
the
last
seven
to
11
months.
H
We
seem
to
be
subject
to
constant
ad-hoc
behavior,
which
we
can't
figure
out,
and
it's
not
helping
anybody.
If
I
may
circle
around
and
come
back
to
the
whole
reason,
the
taxi
cab
commission
was
created
was
paramount,
was
public
safety?
Are
we
really
serving
that
right
now,
because
all
we've
seen
is
erratic
behavior
and
that's?
Why
we're
here
tonight.
I
I
I
I
I
She
ran
the
office
with
precision
and
efficiency
and
she
was
a
terrific
loss
to
the
to
the
commission.
The
whole
idea
of
the
taxi
inspector
is
to
have
some
available.
That
knows,
vehicles
knows
different
aspects
of
tire
wear
and
that
sort
of
stuff
in
order
to
keep
the
vehicle
safe,
and
he
was
very
fair.
I
B
Okay,
I'm
not
saying
any!
Thank
you
again
all
right!
So
now
we
move
into
the
delegations
where
we
need
emotion
and
we
do
have
the
motions
in
advance,
but
we'll
need
to
vote
on
these
so
for
the
remaining
delegation,
since
we
need
to
waive
our
procedure
by
law.
Miss
james
jump
in,
if
I'm
not
doing
this
correctly.
B
Post
carries
now.
I
must
change
the
question.
I
think
I
should
just
do
the
next
one
as
well,
and
then
we
just
move
through
them.
Okay,
so
moved
by
counselor
holland
seconded
by
councilman
chappelle
that
clause
2.17
of
the
city
of
kingston
committee,
bylaw
2010,
be
waived
in
order
to
allow
will
frank,
sanebel
resident
to
speak
to
the
committee
regarding
consideration
of
applications
submitted
for
committee,
appointments,
kingston
area
taxi
commission,
all
those
in
favor
post,
and
it
carries
great.
B
J
J
That's
two
and
a
half
months
ago,
in
the
two
and
a
half
months
since
then,
we
have
dedicated
ourselves
to
establishing
good
governance,
positive
and
direct
communication
with
the
industry
and
developing
a
street
a
strategic
plan
for
the
commission.
This
fall.
We
issued
our
first
report
to
the
mayor
and
city
council
members
of
the
taxi
industry
and
the
public.
I
have
provided
you
with
a
copy
of
the
report
and
I'd
like
to
say
at
this
point
we
issued
an
audited
financial
statement
to
the
industry
and
to
the
mayor,
the
cao
and
council.
J
J
We
want
to
also
ensure
that
the
commission
has
strong
fiscal
management
and
we've
made
some
decisions
to
achieve
that
goal,
and
we
want
to
modernize
the
processes
that
we
develop
and
we
have
done
some
of
those
things
in
consultation
with
the
industry
through
delegation.
At
our
meetings,
I'd
like
to
highlight
some
of
the
things
we
have
accomplished
in
this
short
period
of
time.
J
The
commissioner's
office
is
open
from
9
to
5..
It
was
always
supposed
to
be
opened
from
nine
to
five
and
it
had
been
closing
at
one
o'clock,
so
we
established
what
were
supposed
to
be
the
hours
of
the
commission.
This
helps
to
help
us
serve
the
public
and
our
clients
and
have
better
access
to
our
services.
J
J
I,
along
with
mr
dos
dauser
and
mr
fraser,
were
successful
in
getting
the
former
commission
members
to
put
these
initiatives
on
pause
and
they
remain
on
pause.
We
recognize
that
the
industry
has
a
long
road
to
recovery
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
don't
do
anything
to
hinder
them
in
any
way.
We
are
here
to
listen
and
ensure
that
we
reach
out
to
your
concerns.
J
J
Two
new
accessible
taxi
plates
have
been
offered
out.
We've
had
feedback
that
people
weren't
being
served
in
the
city
in
trying
to
get
an
accessible
taxi,
so
we
put
a
request
out
for
two
new
taxi
plates
and
we'll
offer
an
interest-free
loan
from
the
monies
provided
to
us
by
the
city
as
an
incentive
that's
to
serve
the
public.
J
B
E
J
Yes,
yes,
thank
you
councillor,
neil.
We
are
using
paladin
to
do
our
inspections
and
enforcement.
They
are
by
law
enforcement
officers
and
they
have
the
authority
to
lay
charges
under
the
provincial
offenses
act.
So
there
are
inspections
going
on.
There
is
enforcement
going
on
through
paladin
security.
G
J
Thank
you,
another
initiative
that
we
have
been
consulting
with
the
industry
about.
We
do
offer
the
industry
opportunity
to
give
us
feedback
on
these
initiatives,
and
I
in
fact
have
written
lengthy
responses
to
the
industry
about
this
particular
initiative,
where
we
would
have
badges
on
the
back
of
the
seats
of
the
taxi
so
that
a
person
who's
being
driven,
knows
who's
driving
them
and
how
to
get
in
touch
with
us
or
make
a
complaint.
Should
they
have
an
issue.
F
F
J
That's
not
a
that's
an
administrative
practice.
We
are
of
the
understanding
that
the
office
hours
were
nine
to
five,
but
somehow
the
office
got
locked
at
one
o'clock.
When
we
took
over
as
executive,
we
opened
the
office
till
five
o'clock
as
we
understood
where
the
hours
and
it
allows
the
public
and
our
clients
the
taxi
industry,
to
have
better
and
longer
access
to
our
services.
C
B
B
K
K
K
K
This
is
not
a
logical
conversation
to
bring
in,
but
my
issue
is
why?
Now
because
we
are
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic,
if
the
business
is
down
and
right
now,
it
is
not
the
the
place
to
for
the
new
age
of
the
vehicle,
and
I
am
not
personally
aware
of
any
issues
or
accidents
that
have
happened
in
our
city,
because
the
vehicle
is
older
than
what
the
current
commissioner
last
year
or
or
chair
you
prefers.
K
I
cannot
understand
why,
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
instead
of
understanding
that
the
industry
is
struggling,
the
commission
is
making
decisions
to
take
it
to
the
ground.
So,
with
what
money
are
we
supposed
to
buy?
You
know
the
newer
vehicles
and
right
now
used
car
parts
are
up
25
to
30,
so
we're
making
less
money
and
we're
supposed
to
bring
newer
vehicles.
K
K
It
does
not
make
any
logical
sense
to
me
and
to
many
flip
owners
like
me
that
you
know
why
this
did
why
now
this
needs
to
get
into
practice
so
based
on
those
decisions
I
can
that
are
affecting
me
personally,
I
have
several
times
considered
to
you
know
to
just
leave
the
to
just
leave
the
the
industry,
but
this
is
how
I
make
my
my
living.
This
is
how
I
pay
you
know.
K
You
know
for
my
family's
expenses
and
I
have
made
made
the
decision
to
stay,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
it
has
been
very,
very,
very,
very,
very,
very,
very
hard,
and
I
can
tell
you
many
other
flip
owners
that
I
have
talked
to
you.
We
have
come
to
the
understanding
based
on
those
those
decisions
were
were
not
made
this
to
help
the
industry
to
help
this.
The
struggling
industry
in
mind.
K
So
because
you,
you
cannot
tell
me
in
the
middle
of
this,
you
know
you
know
pandemic
where
we
are
bringing
in
less
money
and
you
are.
You
are
pushing
us
to
spend
more
money
for
the
first
time
since
I
started
owning
cars
in
2014.,
I've
had
to
take
loans
twice
at
the
bank
in
order
to
comply
to
to
what
the
commission
has.
You
know,
you
know,
you
know
has
said
so.
It
is
not
fair,
and
I
strongly
believe
that
this
commission,
as
it
is
right
now,
is
not
working
to
help
the
industry
it.
K
G
K
Mr
chappelle,
thank
you
for
all
of
our
questions.
I
am
aware
that
there
has
been
an
update
on
on
that,
but
the
the
bad
has
already
done
on
me
already
and
we
on
many
other
owners,
because
I
was
putting
two
hours
hours.
You
know
I
had
to
change
two
vehicles,
but
I
had
to
buy
vehicles
that
are
going
to
give
me.
K
You
know
a
few
years
enough,
so
that
so
so
so
that
I
can
comply
with
the
then
by
law
and
and
and
I
had
to
take
loans
for
those
and
I'm
just
giving
you
you
know,
you
know
this.
This
is
just
you
know
an
example
of
you
know
of
you
know
of
those
type
of
the
you
know
the
you
know
decisions
because
they
they
have
affected
me
and
many
other
and
many
other
other
owners
who
have
to
take
loans
at
the
bank
things
they
would
have
otherwise
never
done
had
the
I'm.
K
I'm
sorry
I
have
to
make
something
clear.
I
am
not
saying
that
chappelle
that
the
edge
of
the
vehicle-
it
is
not
a
plastic.
A
plausible
conversation
to
have
the
problem
is
right.
Now,
when
the
decisions
were
made,
they
were
not
made
with
the
understanding
that
the
industry
was
struggling,
that
it
needed
time
to
to
recover
before
we
asked
fleet
owners
to
have
those
you
know
those
vehicles
after
the
pandemic.
Absolutely
but
right
now
I
am.
G
L
C
K
K
You
know,
if
the
six
months,
you
know
you
know,
hold
just
just
stay
so
so
so,
while
it's
a
good
conversation
to
to
to
have,
but
I
think
you
know
things
the
this
those
decisions
really
they
they
have
really.
You
know
affected
people
like
me,
you
know
you
know
whose
bills
up
whose
bills
and
families,
because
I
are
paid
on
the
industry.
B
B
Okay,
miss
james
quick
question
the
so
we
are
considering
the
applications
now,
but
then
the
business,
oh,
that's
business
b
is
the
isolated
applications,
so
we'll
we'll
do
a
first
just
gonna
look.
First
of
all,
we
can
change
the
order
with
the
consent
of
the
committee,
but
if
we
you
know,
we've
proved
the
agenda
already,
but
if
we're
okay,
just
moving
through,
as
is
we'll,
do
that?
Okay,
let's
do
that.
So
the
first
one
to
consider,
then,
is
kingston
front.
Like
housing
corporation
board,
there
are
two
appointments
for
that
board
and.
B
B
Failing
that,
we
will
continue
to
go
back
and
review,
we'll
have
a
round
of
discussion
each
time
and
a
vote
until
we
have
a
majority
for
each
candidate.
So
now
we're
looking
for
that
for
this
board,
we
need
two.
So
we
will
need
to
do
this
a
few
times.
Anyone
as
we
go
through
the
list,
especially
on
the
first
go-round.
B
A
Thank
you
serena,
madam
chair,
to
counselor
nail.
It's
never
a
disqualifier,
there's,
no
rule
that
says
that
an
individual
can't
serve
on
more
than
one
committee.
At
a
time.
However,
you
are
correct
that
the
citizen
committee
to
review
council
remuneration
is
a
short-lived
committee
compared
to
some
of
the
other
appointments.
We
expect
that
the
citizen
committee
will
be
reporting
to
council
in
the
first
quarter
of
2022.
B
I
think
I'll
I'll
turn
it
over
to
counselor
sanik.
Who
has
something
to
say
on
that,
but
I
think
what
we
have
done
in
the
past
is
we
haven't
exactly
ruled
out
the
possibility
if
someone
were
to
make
a
strong
case
for
someone
who
was
late
applying,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
know
that
any
have
gotten
through
so
I'll
go
to
the
change
first
and
then
counselors
in
it
go
ahead
and
james.
B
B
B
So
there
are
some
applicants
who,
for
example,
are
on
other
boards
like
I'll
use
on
this
list.
For
example,
liz
shell,
I
know,
is
on
the
kingston
access
service
board
and
she's
marked
as
an
incumbent
on
kingston
front
knack
housing
corporation,
but
she's
not
marked
as
currently
serving
on
another
board
in
our
application.
Oh,
oh
sorry,
that's
in
a
different
part
of
the
application.
Sorry
go
ahead.
Miss
jeans.
A
B
All
right,
that's
what
I
thought
great.
Thank
you.
Okay,
any
other
questions
of
clarity
before
we
get
through
the
list
here
sing,
none
we'll
just
open
it
up.
Then.
If
anyone
has
any
comments
on
any
of
the
applicants
go
feel
free.
Just
let
me
know
we'll
get
you
counselor
neil
then
councilor
hutchinson.
E
Yes,
former
counselor
shell
was
very
active
in
housing
and
was
a
council
appointee
to
kingston
front
back
housing
corporation,
and
it
shows
her
as
an
incumbent-
and
I
think
it's
important,
often
to
support
incumbents,
to
allow
for
continuity
in
an
appointment
so
I'll
be
supporting.
Former
counselor
show.
F
G
L
B
Thank
you,
okay,
I'm
going
to
add
one
more
to
the
list.
I
had
number
12
sandra
leslie
and
I
have
her
in
part
because
she
indicated
as
her
first
choice
as
opposed
to
some
of
the
others,
and
also
because
she
has
experience
as
an
executive
director
with
john
howard
society,
particularly
with
employment
services.
B
So
she's
worked
with
a
lot
of
individuals
who
are
precariously
housed
or
living
in
social
housing,
and
I
and
I
do
know
that
from
that
role-
that
she
has
a
good
understanding
of
some
of
the
needs
of
individuals
who
are
who
are
housed,
but
also,
of
course,
has
the
corporate
level
perspective
as
an
executive
director.
So
I
have
her
on
my
list
as
well,
so
I
think
then
we're
ready
to
go
through
and
I'll
ask
miss
james
to
read
through
the
list
and
we'll
just
indicate
our
vote.
C
B
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
the
committee
that
there
is
a
requirement
for
the
accessibility
committee
to
have
at
least
50
percent
of
its
members
with
disabilities.
We
have
looked
at
the
membership
and
currently
six
of
the
15
incumbents,
who
have
not
reapplied
tonight,
do
have
a
disability.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
when
we
are
making
appointments
tonight
at
least
two
of
them,
two
appointments
do
have
have
identified,
that
they
have
a
disability
in
order
that
we
meet
those
legislative
requirements.
A
G
G
Very
impressed
with
that
actually
she's
got
a
lot
of
experience.
He
was
he's
as
a
naval
officer
and
is
in
pursuing
a
degree
she's
part
of
the
rob
roy
band
lot
lots
of
interesting
components.
I
I
think
I
think
she's,
certainly
a
great
resident
of
kingston.
I
have
others,
but
in
the
light
of
what
our
clerk
has
mentioned,
number
12
nicholas.
G
Nick
nicholas
he's
a
competitor
in
the
pan
am
games
the
swimmer.
I
I
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
him
a
number
of
years
ago
at
the
ymca
there
was
an
event
fundraising
event
for
a
new
pool
liner
news
there,
and
I
I
think
that
he
put
this
down
as
his
first
choice,
so
I'll
leave
at
that.
I
think
other
members
of
the
committee
would
like
to
recommend
names
as
well.
E
A
There's
15
members
counselors
using
it
through
you,
madam
chair.
There
are
15
members,
14
public
members
and
then
one
council
member.
We
have
six
members
who
did
whose
term
is
continuing,
so
they
haven't
had
to
reapply.
We
do
have
three
incumbents
who
have
reapplied
tonight,
so
we
need
to
make
a
total
of
seven
appointments
this
evening,
two
of
whom
have
to
have
a
disability.
I.
E
A
E
G
Just
just
based
on
through
you
move,
madam
chair,
just
through
what
councilors
neil's
saying
about
the
incumbents
and
since
you're
the
counselor
on
that
committee.
I
know
it's
are
you?
Are
you
recommending
that
perhaps
we
consider
the
incumbents
as
part
of
our
choices,
I'm
just
because
I
work
with
them.
You
said
it's
efficient.
E
Yeah,
I
it's
good
always
good
to
have
some
continuation,
because
if
we
don't
and
I'm
not
saying
that
all
seven
have
to
be
incumbent,
but
if
we
don't
support
that,
then
sometimes
you
end
up
with
a
less
experienced
group,
which
may
be
a
good
thing
in
some
committees.
But
this
is
a
really
high
functioning,
really
well
really
good
group
to
work
with,
I
believe
councillor.
Holland
was
on.
C
B
F
I
want
to
report
the
incumbents
because
it
sounds
like
they're
doing
the
job
and
for
the
same
reason
that
counseling
you'll
be
incumbency,
doesn't
matter,
and
I
support
counselor
chappelle
number
one
and
I've
been
persuaded
just
now
to
support
birch.
I
was
kind
of
in
between
on
that
one,
but
I
think
that's
probably
a
good
idea
and
I'm
thinking,
maybe
the
number
I
think
to
set.
L
J
B
B
B
A
C
B
A
B
G
I
I'd
be
honored
to
be
counselor
sanik
with
her
passion
for
our
environment
anyways.
My
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
to
the
clerk.
I
know
you
had
your
head
down
and
I
didn't
want
to
interrupt
you,
but
I
did
actually
have
my
first
ballot.
Casper
nicholas
fetching
so
and
I
remain
with
the
clowns
of
the
six
going
forward.
So
what
I'm
just
just
for
it
doesn't
make
a
huge
difference,
but
I
just
wanted
to
you
know.
B
A
B
B
B
A
A
And
that
is
excuse
me,
that
is
all
the
candidates.
In
this
round.
Corey
scott
is
elected
with
four
votes
and
remaining
for
the
next
round.
We
have
candidate
one
nicolas
spection
candidate,
two
maxine
bridges,
candidate,
three
dorothean
brown
candidate,
ten
joshua,
marcus
and
candidate,
twelve
nicholas
told
jesse.
B
B
A
B
G
Point
were
you
I'm
just
yeah,
I'm
just
I
screw
it
all
over
my
pages,
and
I
just
wondering
if
you
could
just
tell
me
who's
been
elected.
I
don't
need
to
know
the
numbers
who's
elected
I
can
highlight.
I
don't
think
myself
confused
at
the
at
the
end
of
this
vote
at
the
end
of
this
vote.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
now
at
the
end
of
this
video.
A
B
C
G
B
B
No,
that's
fine,
we'll
get
to
it
I'll,
get
to
you
as
soon
as
we
get
there.
We
certainly
wouldn't
go
into
a
vote
on
anything
before
hearing
from
everyone.
Okay,
so
we'll
just
continue
then,
and
I'll
move
over
to
the
business
item
so
counselor
should
pal
continue
on.
You
are
the
first
speaker
go
ahead.
G
Yes,
I'm
going
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
incumbents
diane,
as
is
joseph
dowser
and
stephen
fraser.
This
group
of
individuals,
along
with
with
the
counselor
from
loyalist
township
mike
berubik,
who
I
believe,
has
sent
correspondence
indicating
that
he
is
very
comfortable
with
this
current
group
of
incumbents.
I
would
like
to
see
them
continue.
G
The
rationale
is
that
there's
been
a
significant
amount
of
of
effort
put
forward
by
this
group
to
try
to
address
the
chaos
that
was
created
by
some
previous
board
members
of
the
taxi
commission,
we're
trying
to
bring
to
the
con
to
the
industry
and
work
with
them.
I've
personally
consulted
with
both
of
the
owners
of
the
stands,
and
so
has,
as
miss
aziz,
has
been
in
in
their
offices
meeting
with
them.
G
There
was
a
number
of
presentations
tonight
which
were
referring
to
issues
of
concern
that
were
definitely
within
the
january
june
period.
This
is
prior
to
the
the
addition
of
diane
and
myself
and
and
and
and
steve
who
joined
later
on
as
well.
So
there
has
been
some
transition,
but
I
think
we're
in
a
good
place
to
be
moving
forward,
and
I
would
encourage
my
colleagues
to
consider
the
candidacy
moving
forward.
If
I
was
to
add
some
new
people,
I
do
like
counselor
holland's
perspective.
G
G
Yeah,
those
those
would
be
the
two
that
and
then
we
just,
I
believe,
penny
leclair.
I
think
she
was
just
recently
appointed
to
the
to
the
municipal
accessory
commission
and
I
did
a
point
of
order,
but
it
was
just
to
raise
some
interest
about
number
11
and
number
12
not
being
eligible
because
of
the
bylaws,
with
the
studio
for
the
taxi
commission
that
they
cannot
be
valid.
Plate
holders
are
badge
holders
to
be
drivers,
because
it's
in
conflict
of
continuing
every
interest.
G
That
is
also
the
recommendation
of
our
representative
loyalist
township
and
and
then
I
would
support
joseph
aruba,
havrue
who's
who's
been
applying
and
has
served
on
various
committees
in
the
past
and
has
been
applied
a
number
of
times
before,
and
I
do
believe
the
francophone
woman,
mary
renee
I
about
isle
would
also
be
a
great
addition.
So
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
F
F
E
C
B
Counselor
neil,
I
would
ask
that
you
not
refer
to
operations
of
a
committee
that
we
are
not
a
direct
oversight
body
of
we,
as
you
mentioned,
as
was
mentioned,
we
are
not
here
to
discuss
or
debate
the
operations
of
that
committee.
We're
here
to
evaluate
applications
and
come
to
some
agreement,
have
our
vote
on.
A
A
Excuse
me
all
right,
so
that
has
the
results
of
this
round
are
elected
with
five
votes
are
candidate:
two
diane
aziz
candidate,
three
marie
renee
falzado
and
candidates
for
anthony
carroll,
candidate,
nine,
andre
lineball,
candidate,
twelve
and
michael
mulrooney
and
candidate
thirteen
drop
off
with
the
zero
votes;
and
so
that
sorry
did
you
want
anybody
to
indicate
who's
remaining?
Yes,
please!
Okay,
so
remaining
we
have
candidate
one
joseph
avro
candidate,
two
paul
chavez,
candidate,
three
joseph
bowser,
candidate,
hate,
stephen
fraser
and
candidate
11,
peter
mckenty,.
C
B
A
B
A
A
A
C
G
Like
what
what
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
madam
clerk,
but
what
we're
looking
for
when
people
are
applying
is
whether
they're
a
resident
of
kingston,
that
is
the
qualifier
that
we're
looking
at
we're
not
looking
at
whether
they
fit
within
the
bylaws
of
the
tax
situation.
Would
that
be
a
correct
assumption?.
A
G
A
G
B
A
A
B
Who
was
I
served
in
this
committee
not
long
ago,
and
she
was
a
new
member,
just
as
I
was
departing,
but
a
very
effective
member
has
previous
governance
experience,
and
this
is
a
group
that
deals
its
property
standards
and
maintenance
property
standard
standards
really,
but
also
a
bit
of
legislative,
provincial
legislative
stuff
that
you
need
to
be
well-versed
in
and
she
was
very
impressive
norm-
did
not
have
it
as
her
first
choice,
but
I
think
she
would
be
excellent
on
this
committee.
So
I'm
putting
forward
those
two
names.
E
A
B
E
E
L
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
support
the
department
as
well,
especially
because,
right
now
we
have
so
many
social
issues
going
on
in
the
library.
You
know
also
acts
as
warming,
and
you
know
helps
people
that
are
coming
in.
That
needs
access
to
resources,
and
I
think
she
could
be
give
give
some
really
sage
advice
to
the
library
board
on
that.
But
I
wish
we
were
appointing
more
than
one
person
to
the
board,
because
there
are
so
many
good
candidates
like
mark
asburg.
L
You
know
definitely
I'm
very
like
a
worthy
member
of
the
library
board
too,
and
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
victoria
ruck,
because
I
know
her
and
she's
I'm
new
to
wanting
to
really
get
involved
in
kingston.
Queens
grad
got
a
job
right
here
in
kingston
and
really
wants
to
become
part
of
our
community,
so
her
choices.
I
wish
it
was
more
than
one
position.
L
C
F
F
I
would
like
to
say
a
special
nod
to
number
15
newer
muslim
who
has
applied
before
and
for
different
things
and
seems
to
be
adding
to
her
her
curriculum
vita
in
a
in
a
constructive
way.
She's
now
working
at
kedco
is
involved
with
the
diverse
equity
and
and
inclusion
committee
and
would
be
covered
by
that
herself
and
that's
part
of
our
our
strategic
planning
and
she's
also
involved
with
sustainable
kingston's
sexual
assault
center.
B
B
One
thing
that
is
most
impressive,
I
would
say,
is
her
ability,
through
the
united
way,
to
bring
together
a
whole
range
of
service
providers
to
the
the
betterment.
She
really
has
been
able
to
sort
of
leverage
existing
resources
in
the
community,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
I
would
be
really
amazing
to
see
with
the
library
I
have
that
skill
set
on
the
board
so
I'll
be
supporting
her
any
seeing
nothing
else.
Then
I
guess
we
will
go
through
the
vote.
B
B
A
Believe
that
I
have,
but
if
you
could
just
have
everybody
just
let
me
know
again,
I
just
don't
want
to
miss
anybody,
but
given
that
there's
23
candidates
and
one
vacancy,
I
think
shortlisting
does
make
sense.
So
I'll
read
what
I've
made
a
note
of
and
if
I've
missed
somebody
please
just
interrupt
me
and
let
me
know
so.
I
have
number
five
dorothy
ann
brown
number
13
penny
leclair
number,
15,
noor,
maslow
and
number
22
pognavarma.
B
B
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
just
wanted
to
remind
the
nominations
advisory
committee,
that
there
is
a
requirement
in
the
mandate
for
the
heritage,
kingston
committee,
to
keep
a
balance
of
physical
heritage
and
cultural
heritage.
The
member,
whose
term
came
to
an
end
and
did
not
reapply,
which
led
to
the
reason
that
we
are
filling
this
vacancy
tonight
was
a
was
an
archivist
and
and
had
skills
more
in
the
cultural
heritage
side
of
things.
So,
if
you
want
to
keep
that
in
consideration,
when
you're
making
a
recommendation.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chairperson,
based
on
the
comments
of
our
clerk
this
evening,
I'm
gonna
change
my
preference.
I
really
did
like
well,
it's
too
bad.
I
won't
vote,
but
I
I
really
did
like
number
eight
andrew
duncan,
but
given
me
the
requirement
to
have
someone
who
has
more
of
a
cultural
experience,
I
would.
I
would
suggest
that
that
mark
asperg
is
an
excellent
candidate
based
on
his
cv
and
the
comprehensive
information
he
put
in
his
application.
E
A
A
True
and-
and
I
will
add
that
it
you
know-
bylaw
does
say
that
heritage
heritage
kingdom's
membership
should
possess
a
diversity
of
skills,
experience
and
qualifications.
So
it's
not
the
same
as
the
accessibility
committee,
where
there
is
a
legislative
requirement.
It's
a
should,
as
opposed
to
a
must.
I
just
wanted
to
draw
that
to
sort
of
attention
to
nominations
when
you
were
making
your
considerations
excellent.
L
F
B
Great
thank
you
I
wanted
to
mention,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
have
the
right
form
in
front
of
me:
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
lorraine,
ford
and
she
has
experience
with
art,
history,
art
conservation.
Actually,
even
I
think,
oh
okay,
thank
you.
We
got
the
numbers
excellent,
correct,
perfect,
so
that
that
was
something
that
was
appealing
to
me
also
given
the
requirements.
What
were
the
sort
of
the
the
gaps?
I
would
say
that
I
will
be
supporting
her
me
seeing
nothing
else.