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A
Welcome
to
the
planning
committee
meeting
and
with
shell
share
of
planning
committee,
and
we
have
our
full
committee
with
us
councillor.
Turner
is
at
the
end,
councillor
Neil,
who
is
our
vice
chair,
councillor
McLaren
councillor
Oh
Sonic.
We
have
many
staff
members
here
tonight.
Our
senior
legal
counsel,
miss
Reyes
in
the
front
row
beside
her
planner,
Wicca
and
planner
sands.
We
have
manager
vendetti
with
us
and
manager
Newman
and
miss
planner
eusebio,
who
is
going
to
present
first
and
our
technician.
Who's
going
to
keep
these
things
running
is
mr.
A
A
The
very
first
piece
of
business
we
have
tonight
is
a
planning
meeting
and
it's
going
to
be
introduced
by
Miss
eusebio
with
a
PowerPoint
presentation,
and
then
we
will
hand
it
over
to
the
committee
for
questions
and
then
hand
it
to
the
public
for
questions
that
most
eusebio
or
other
members
of
staff
can
answer
later
on.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
start.
B
Good
evening
madam
chair
planning,
committee
members
and
members
of
the
public,
my
name
is
anne-marie
eusebio,
intermediate
planner,
and
the
purpose
of
this
public
meeting
is
to
present
revisions
to
the
tree
by
Lanza
alteration
by
law.
The
tree
by
law
came
into
effect
in
2007
and
the
site
alteration
by
law
came
into
effect
in
2008
and
over
the
past
10
years
we
have
identified
changes
to
be
made
that
would
make
the
permitting
process
more
efficient,
streamlined
and
to
ensure
consistency
with
a
city's
overall
goal
of
environmental
sustainability.
B
B
B
So
the
proposed
revisions
that
are
in
the
second
draft,
as
part
of
a
report
in
front
of
you
involve
provisions
for
significant
woodlands,
the
submission
of
technical
studies
such
as
environmental
impact
assessment
and
information
on
compensation
and
securities,
as
well
as
legal
agreements.
So
what
we've
heard
is
the
following
that
we've,
the
feedback
that
we've
received
from
the
open
house
as
well
as
a
rule
Advisory
Committee,
the
removal
of
trees
located
within
significant
woodland
should
not
apply
to
the
rural
area.
B
The
submission
of
an
environmental
impact
assessments
would
be
too
onerous
for
the
applicants
and
that
permit
should
not
be
required
for
commercial
harvesting
on
lands
greater
than
1
hectare,
and
that
financial
security
should
not
be
applicable
to
tree
removal
projects
in
the
rural
area.
So
these
are
some
criteria
in
which
the
tree
by
law
applies
generally.
It
should
be
noted
that
the
period
that
the
true
byla
at
this
time
does
not
apply
to
residential
properties.
B
So
we
look
at
trees,
greater
than
15
centimetres
in
diameter
at
chest:
height
municipal
trees,
trees
located
in
new
PA
areas,
trees
protected
by
tree
preservation,
protection
plans
and
commercial
harvesting
on
lands
over
1
hectare.
It's
also
extended
to
endangered
tree
species
and
distinctive
trees.
So
the
proposed
revision
that
is
in
the
second
draft
of
the
report
is
that
the
injury
or
removal
of
trees
within
significant
woodlands
and
lands
designated
EPA,
and
these
include
residential
properties.
It
should
also
be
noted
that
an
environmental
impact
assessment
is
also
required.
B
However,
personal
use
and
normal
farm
practices
are
exempt.
An
example
of
a
personal
use
would
be
the
removal
of
trees
for
firewood.
An
example
of
a
legitimate
normal
farm
practice
would
be
the
removal
of
trees
in
order
to
operate
farm
machinery
or
the
removal
of
trees
to
install
fencing
to
keep
in
cattle.
B
So
these
woodlands
have
ecological
value
and
provide
a
potential
contribution
to
the
overall
natural
heritage
system
and
the
criteria
for
the
identification
and
mapping
of
these
satanic
woodlands
include
the
woodland
size,
presence
of
interior
habitat
proximity
to
other
significant
features,
as
well
as
the
woodland
age.
So
the
protection
of
significant
woodlands
is
important
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
baile
to
maintain
tree
coverage
and
is
also
in
line
with
the
city's
goal
of
environmental
sustainability.
B
So
normal
farm
practices,
as
I've
mentioned
currently
how
it
exists
in
our
baile,
is
that
a
permit
would
be
required
within
the
hatched
portion
of
the
schedule
shown
here.
For
any
normal
farm
practice,
so
this
is
the
areas
shown
in
the
red
here
which
delineates
the
urban
boundary
and
also
the
deferred
areas
within
the
official
plans.
So
as
it
stands
at
this
moment
of,
permit
is
required
in
this
area.
So
what
we're
proposing
is
that
this
schedule
d
be
removed
and
that
normal
farm
practices
are
exempt
from
this
by
law.
B
We
have
consulted
with
internal
staff
and
in
accordance
with
the
farm
and
food
protection
and
production
act,
no
municipal
bylaws
should
restrict
legitimate
norm
normal
farm
practices
for
agricultural
operations.
So,
in
the
event
that
there
is
ever
a
dispute
as
to
what
constitutes
a
normal
farm
practice-
and
it
cannot
be
resolved
by
the
city-
that
matter
would
be
directed
to
a
provincial
tribunal,
which
is
the
normal
farm
practices
board.
B
We've
also
included
some
information
with
regards
to
compensation,
so
the
city
requires
compensation
when
a
tree
permit
is
issued
for
the
removal
of
trees
and
nothing
can
be
planted
on
site
in
terms
of
replacement
trees.
So
we
use
the
following
methods
to
calculate
compensation
and
they
include
the
trunk
formula
method,
the
application
of
replacement
ratios,
and
it's
also
a
discretion
of
the
director
and
called
a
consultation
with
public
forestry
staff.
B
Upon
the
review
of
an
arborist
report,
we
also
have
included
information
with
regards
to
agreements
and
securities,
so
legal
agreement
is
required
by
the
city
when
receiving
financial
securities
and
support
of
the
issuance
of
a
permit
tied
to
the
removal
of
trees
that
will
be
replaced
on
site
and
the
securities
are
held
for
a
minimum
of
two
years.
Following
the
planting
replacement
trees.
Securities
are
also
used
to
cover
the
costs
of
replacing
those
trees
that
do
not
survive
the
two-year
period.
B
So
this
is
a
really
in
line
with
the
intent
of
the
tree
bylaw
in
terms
of
maintaining
tree
coverage
and
also
protecting
municipal
tree
municipal
interests
with
regards
to
protecting
environmental
features
and
I'm.
An
example
of
this
would
be
if
this
is
with
regards
to
an
owner
wanting
to
remove
trees
prior
to
obtaining
planning
approval.
B
So
we
would
be
requiring
that
the
owner
enter
into
an
agreement
with
the
city
and
also
for
them
to
provide
us
with
financial
securities
for
the
replacement
trees
on
the
site
and
the
security
would
be
kept
for
two
years
following
the
planting,
the
replacement
trees,
and
then
they
would
be
returned
after
two
years.
Once
we've
determined
that
the
trees
are
healthy,
if
it
turns
out
that
the
trees
are
not
healthy,
then
we
would
draw
on
that
security
amount
with
regard
to
the
planning
approval.
B
If
if
there
is
a
development
application
associated
with
it-
and
there
is
a
site
plan
agreement
or
a
subdivision
agreement
and
there's
a
posting
of
the
Securities,
then
the
securities
as
part
of
the
permit
would
be
reduced
or
returned
back
to
the
applicant.
Another
situation
where
we
may
apply
agreements
and
securities
is,
for
example,
a
commercial
lot
where
someone
wanted
to
remove
trees
in
front
of
their
property
in
order
to
make
signage
available
or
more
visible,
so
they
would
want
to
remove
the
trees.
B
So
that's
the
tree
bylaw.
With
regards
to
the
side,
alteration
bylaw.
This
philo
regulates
the
placements
of
fill
and
the
alteration
the
grades
of
the
land,
and
we
didn't
find
many
revisions
to
be
made
with
regard
to
this
bylaw
other
than
the
control
plan
requirements
and
what
a
control
plan
is
it's
a
drawing
that
shows
the
existing
grades
and
the
proposed
grades
of
a
property
and
we're
requiring
that
what's
to
be
shown,
that
control
plan
should
include
construction,
site
control
measures,
monitoring
program,
staging
areas
as
well
as
locations
of
shorelines
and
other
environmental
features.
B
B
We're
going
to
report
back
to
the
rural
advisory
committee
through
a
public
meeting
we're
going
to
prepare
the
report.
The
final
report,
based
on
the
feedback,
received
and
publish
this
information
on
the
city's
website
and
then
prepare
a
comprehensive
report
and
recommendation
to
planning
committee
and
then
prepare
the
council
report.
C
B
B
D
3Mm,
chair
nose,
so
they're
two
separate
items
I'm
just
to
elaborate
again
on
this
piece.
The
intent
here
is
right.
Now
someone
can
come
in
and
make
a
request
to
planning
to
remove
all
the
trees
on
the
property,
but
we
don't
have
anything
in
place
at
the
time
to
say
that
they're
ever
going
to
go
back
and
we
plant
the
trees.
So
the
often
what
we
hear
is
someone
comes
in,
they
want
to
make
a
site
more
marketable.
This
isn't
predominantly
in
the
urban
context,
so
they
want
to
make
a
site
more
marketable.
D
So
they
want
to
clear
it
and
generally
we're
okay
with
that.
But
we
need
to
be
able
to
hold
something
to
say
that
if
they
disappear
we
can
go
and
replant
the
site.
So
the
purpose
of
this
change
is
to
say
that
will
issue
a
tree
permit,
because
we
can't
really
say
no.
If
they're
willing
to
put
up
the
financial
all
amount
to
compensate
so
we'll
say
sure,
will
issue
the
permit,
but
we're
going
to
hold
X
dollars
until
either
until
we
go
through
a
planning
process.
And
we
get
a
letter.
C
E
F
Calling
the
dead
trees
the
diseased
trees,
clearing,
though
those
out
that
kind
of
work
can
continue
without
needing
to
get
an
arborist
permission
to
do
so
as
I
understand
it.
Is
that
correct,
okay
and
I'm
a
little
curious
about
a
security,
I'm
all
for
security
on
trees
when
something
is
being
developed
for
a
subdivision
or
by
a
developer,
but
I'm
wondering
what
application,
and
why
would
we
ask
a
family
farm
farmer
to
pay
a
security?
G
F
F
H
I
There
were
more
than
10,000
of
the
seedlings
planted
with
a
very
high
rate
of
survival
as
part
of
the
environmental
rehab
program
that
was
carried
on
there,
so
we're
now
nearly
a
decade
on
and
there's
been
a
high
rate
of
survival
and
I
know
the
city
won
an
award
for
this.
It's
been
a
very
good
program.
I
like
overall
I
think
the
impact
environmentally
has
been
very
positive.
I
Some
of
these
trees
have
died
just
because
the
seedlings
are
very
close
together,
so
they're
being
kind
of
crowded
out
for
resources.
So
probably
some
sort
of
thinning
program
is
necessary
anyway.
So
I'm
just
wondering
how
the
regulations
in
the
dialogue
would
apply
to
that,
and
the
second
question
is
related.
There's
been
a
number
of
these
trees
that
have
fallen
naturally
due
to
storms
and
this
sort
of
thing
and
just
dealing
with
the
bell
park.
I
Working
group
and
I'm
with
the
Friends
of
ballpark,
which
is
a
citizen's
members
group
I'm
advocating
for
improvements
to
the
city.
Promises
were
made
as
to
the
removal
of
these
trees
that
were
not
kept,
and
it
creates
a
problem
from
the
Gulf
standpoint.
If
you're
hitting
us,
you
know
shot
in
there.
Obviously
everybody
would
want
to
be
on
the
fairway
and
we
can't
do
that.
Otherwise,
we
wait
beyond
the
tour,
but
we
can't
do
it
right
so
you're
hitting
in
there
and
you're
going
in,
and
you
know
you
can't
find
your
ball.
I
It's
just
impossible
due
to
the
tree.
Basically
debris
that
is
built
up
over
a
period
of
several
years
and
not
been
cleared
up
so
I
want
to
put
that
on
the
record
at
this
point
and
then
be
here
what
staff
has
to
say
about
it,
but
otherwise
I'm.
You
know
very
impressed
with
the
work.
That's
been
done,
so
thanks
very
much
for
that.
J
Hi
I'm,
my
name
is
Chris
Hargreaves
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Kingston
field,
naturalists
Conservation
Committee,
and
there
are
parts
of
this
plan
which
is
very
nice
in
terms
of
the
extra
protection
to
the
contributory
woodlands
and
I,
appreciate,
also
the
juggling
act
which
you
are
going
through,
trying
to
determine
what
to
protect
and
what
not
to
protect
and
I
would
like
you
to
clarify
a
couple
of
points
within
this
juggling
act
that
you
are
trying
to
do,
and
one
is
good,
is
still
here
on
the
screen
is
God.
Can
he
go?
Was
that
me.
D
J
Right
that
one,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
over
the
years
about
developments,
come
in
and
new
replacement
trees
are
planted
and
they
die
and
they
don't
survive
the
two-year
period.
So
I'm
delighted
to
see
the
comment
about
securities
are
used
to
cover
the
cost
of
replacing
those
trees
that
do
not
survive
the
two-year
period.
I.
Just
like
you
to
elaborate
on
that
to
make
sure
that
that
is
actually
as
nice
as
I
think
it
is
and
I'm
not
imagining
something
which
is
impractical
in
terms
of
you
know.
How
do
you
define
survival?
J
J
So
before
I
get
too
excited,
could
you
please
clarify
that,
and
the
second
point
I
would
like
clarified
was
that
in
response
two
counts,
the
Neal's
question
with
regarding
ash
trees,
you
commented
that
the
by
law
did
not
apply
to
ash
trees
and
yet,
on
page
16
of
the
agenda,
paragraph
two
application.
The
pilot
says
this
by
anoj
shall
apply
to
a
all
trees
that
are
15,
centimeters
or
greater
in
diameter
at
breast
height
and
I,
don't
see
anywhere
on
page
16
or
17.
K
Madam
chair
many
members
before
I
start
I
want
to
speak
on
with
two
different
hat.
So
if
it's
okay
with
you
within
the
same
time
period,
I
might
start
with
Rural
Affairs
little
less
controversial,
I
think
so.
As
chair
of
Rural
Affairs
I,
don't
want
to
take
up
a
lot
of
time
tonight,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
concerns
staff
of
alluded
to
some.
K
They
wrote
most
of
them
down,
but
I
think
what
what
the
real
message
that
should
come
across
is
no
matter
whether
they
were
what
member
of
Rural
Affairs,
where
their
background
was
from.
They
all
felt
that
this
was
to
owners
for
the
rural
area,
even
those
that
live
in
the
urban
area
or
shouldn't
say
urban,
the
hamlet
areas
of
of
the
rural
area,
and
then
it
was
unanimous
that
we
look
at
some
sort
of
revisions
to
this
to
be
brought
back
and
I.
Think
the
staff
have
committed
to
that.
K
So
I
don't
want
to
belabor
that
too
much
other
than
I.
Think
I
think
my
take
is
that
most
people
in
talking
to
people
aren't
aware
this
by
law
is
coming
through
and
how
much
it's
going
to
impact
the
rural
people.
It
takes
a
long
time
for
people
in
the
rural
area
to
react
and
number
one
and
number
two.
K
They
look.
A
lot
of
them
live
by
the
live
and
let
live,
and
if
the
city
leaves
them
alone,
that's
all
they
care
and
and
they're,
not
quite
as
reactionary
as
people
in
the
urban
area.
And
yet
when
the
bylaw
will
clean
and
they'll
they'll,
they
will
be
really
well.
I
won't
say
what
I
was
going
to
say,
sorry,
but
they
will
be
able
to
perturbed
I
know,
there's
a
number
that
I've
told
this
by
law.
K
I
was
coming
through
and,
and
they
say,
like
the
city,
has
no
by
law,
no,
no
value
and
come
in
here
so
I've
sort
of
moved
into
mean.
We
have
the
commitment
from
staff,
it's
going
to
come
back
to
real
affairs.
I'll
leave
that
the
only
other
part
about
rural
affairs
is,
it
would
be
nice
to
have
and
we've
sort
of
agreed.
K
We
will
put
us
off
at
real
affairs
till
we
have
a
new
borough
councillor
for
the
area
to
deal
with
this
issue
at
are
so
that'll
put
it
off
till
probably
after
the
mail
action
before
we
deal
with
any
revisions,
just
that
that
understanding,
okay,
so
now
as
a
land
owner
actually
I
gotta
speak
as
a
former
councillor.
Also,
I
was
one
of
the
counselors
that
put
this
in
and
I
really
believe.
K
We
had
a
lot
of
public
meetings,
some
councillors
that
we
are
here
now
we're
out
those
meetings
and
it
needed
to
go
in
at
the
employ
in
place
for
the
urban
area,
and
there
is.
This
is
a
real
issue.
That's
significantly
difference
between
rural
and
urban.
The
the
urban
area
needed
this
because
of
development
and
a
one
of
the
public
come
to
real
affairs,
and
we
all
have
these
thoughts
in
the
back
of
your
head.
Why?
But,
when
you
live
there,
you
didn't
put
it
into
words
and
the
real
difference
is.
K
They
don't
have
to
replant
it
because
we
don't
know
it
and
and
destroy
all
the
trees
like
to
do
in
the
urban
area.
I
think
that's
a
significant
difference
between
what
why
we
need
to
adopt
this
March
over
the
rural
area.
The
other
comments,
I,
don't
want
to
go
over
all
the
points
that
we
found
that
Rural
Affairs
staffs
made
their
points
in
love,
hopefully
another
ticket.
They
can
I
think
the
three
things
that
I
want
to
mention
here
is
elm.
K
Rail
fares,
the
other
thing
that
I
found
was
when
you
look
at
the
map
for
significant
woodlands
and
I,
assessed
all
mine,
basically
anywhere
there's
a
tree
and
it's
not
a
field
is
green
I
think
they
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
the
mapping.
I
think
there
are
areas
and
I
can't
find
them
on
this
map,
but
there
are
EPA
areas.
Yes,
there
are
there,
definitely
and
there's
EPA
areas.
Most
of
us
assume
EPA
is
wetland.
There
are
EPL
areas
where
the
trees
are
protected
in
highlands
and
there's
no
argument
about
that.
K
It's
the
fact
that
anywhere
the
way
they've
done
this
mapping,
at
least
in
my
area,
I,
went
through
all
my
different
area,
farms
that
I
know
anywhere
there's
a
tree.
It's
green
I
mean
that's
just
a
little
bit
too
broad
brush
and
I
mentioned
it
to
staff.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
them
to
the
committee's
attention
and
commercial
harvesting.
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
farms
that
Iran
that
they
aren't
farmers
and
they
aren't
exempt,
and
yet
they
have
a
ton
of
trees
for
every
hundred
acres
that
I
have.
K
If
it's
fifteen
percent
bush
or
more
you're
talking
millions
of
trees,
we're
not
talking
dozens
or
hundreds,
and
they
should
have
the
ability
to
be
able
to
cut
some
of
their
trees.
It
would
be
normal
normal
practice
for
any
bush
without
having
to
call
the
city
in
number
one
and
number
two.
When
you
get
into
the
the
compensation
as
I
read
it
it's
two
hundred
dollars
a
tree
like
most
people
won't
even
cut
wood,
because
most
of
the
costs
that
you
get
back
for
cutting
wood
is
for
all
the
labor
that
you
put
into
it.
K
If
you,
if
you
put
that
on
anybody
that
one
to
cut
trees,
you
couldn't
do
that
as
a
small
business
owner
and
everybody,
whether
it's
a
farmer
or
a
small
landowner,
smells
the
estas.
Sorry
excuse
the
words
sells
the
odd
cord
of
wood
here
and
there
there's
lots
of
small
people
that
have
small
acreages
want
to
start
up,
maybe
goat
farming,
or
we
all
did
it
to
start
farming.
K
They
want
that
ability
to
be
able
to
sell
a
little
bit
of
wood
without
the
city
coming
down
on
them,
and
it
will
not
be
there
if
we
they
have
to
pay
more
than
they
make
out
of
the
wood
to
compensate
the
city.
If
there's
some
way
of
you
know,
if
we
don't
exempt
the
rural
area
personally,
I
still
think
most
of
the
rural
area
should
be
exempt.
K
It's
just
totally
different
atmosphere
than
the
urban
area
other
than
I
should
say
when
we
put
the
practice
in
when
we
voted
on
it
council,
we
exempt
the
rural
area.
We
put
the
practice
in
the
reality.
Is
we
had
to
think
to
make
it
work
in
the
zoning
bylaws
staff
had
to
put
it
in
for
hamlet's,
where
you
got
higher
densities
of
people
all
right.
Thank
you.
L
L
Actually,
I
did
not
know
that
this
viola
was
coming
in
effect.
I
do
take
the
wig
standard,
but
mine
didn't
come
Saturday
didn't
come
Monday.
Maybe
once
a
week
we
don't
get
our
paper.
So
I
really
think
that
there
has
been
maybe
not
enough
information
given
out,
and
I
also
want
to
because
we've
been
farming
for
practically
60
years.
L
Farmers
are
stewards
of
the
land
we
always
have
been.
We
always
will
be
and
we're
completely
different
than
the
city
I
quell
with
my
grandchildren.
Every
weekend
we
clear
our
road
I
phoned
the
city.
We
had
five
bags
of
garbage
dropped
on
us
on
a
road.
It
still
hasn't
been
picked
up
most
of
the
people
in
the
rural
area.
We
we
look
after
our
properties
and
our
land,
we're
not
the
same
as
the
city
we
have
planted.
L
There
may
be
a
an
acre
and
a
half,
but
we
understand
if
there's
a
dead,
album,
that's
what
we
use
first
for
firewood.
We
have
an
outside
burning
stove
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
our
area.
There's
a
man
at
the
end
of
our
road
that
has
an
outside
burning,
stove
and
and
I'm
sure.
It
would
be
very,
very
difficult
for
him.
He
is.
L
He
also
has
an
occupation
of
the
farm,
as
a
lot
of
us
have
to
do
to
make
it
work
and
I'm
sure
if
he
had
to
pay
the
compensation
for
his
firewood.
It
would
be
very
difficult
so
and
I
want
to
thank
George
for
and
the
Rural
Affairs
Committee
for
all
the
work.
They've
done
and
hope
that
considered
the
city
will
consider
we're
not
really
we
are
part
of
the
city
but
we're
a
different
part
of
the
city.
Thank
you.
M
My
name
is
tymberlee
I
love
at
42
points
explored
road.
We
had,
we
do
have
a
farm
out
there.
There's
lots
of
farms
out
there.
Not
many
people
know
we're
even
in
the
city
of
kingston.
They
have
wondered
why
it's
just
a
little
short
road
but
yeah
we're
on
the
City
of
Kingston,
and
we
do
farming
out
there
and,
of
course,
when
you
take
and
have
trees
falling
in
the
fields
and
stuff,
when
you're
doing
your
Han,
you
got
to
go
out
and
clean
them
up
and
remove
them
and
stuff
I.
M
Don't
see
why
we
should
have
to
get
a
permit
to
clean
up
the
trees
that
are
falling
indoor
field,
so
he
won't
do
our
pain
safely
and
stuff,
like
that
and
I
mean
I
burn
what
its
course
and
I'm
self-sufficient
stuff
I've
cut.
Two
years
ago,
I
was
back
there
that
this
summer,
even
the
album's
and
that
they're
all
starting
to
come
back
up
so
I
mean
it's
not
like
we're
taking,
and
it's
not
coming
back.
It's
all
coming
back.
That's
basically
all
I
wanted
to
say
and
imagine
the
rest
of
the
farmers
back
there.
N
B
So
we'd
like
to
thank
everyone
tonight
for
providing
some
feedback,
it's
very
helpful
as
we
move
forward
to
further
revisions
and
see
the
next
draft
of
the
tree
bylaw.
So
as
I'm
we've
stated
earlier
on
their
presentation,
we
have
heard
your
concerns,
as
stated
here
in
a
previous
meeting
in
the
rural
affairs
in
February.
B
The
first
question
with
regards
to
Bell
Park
and
the
tree
planting
program,
the
hybrid
poplar
trees,
the
tree
bylaw
dead,
diseased
trees
are
exempt
from
the
tree
bylaw
and
we
would
have
to
consult
with
our
colleagues
over
at
Public
Works
forestry
staff
with
regards
to
the
details
of
that
program.
So
thank
you
very
much.
The
second
comment
is
how
we
deal
with
securities
and
for
trees
that
don't
survive
the
two-year
period.
So
there
is
a
monitoring
program
that
happens
once
the
tree
permit
is
issued.
D
B
D
So
to
mr.
Sutherlands
comments
and
I
think
I'll
speak
to
some
of
the
other
comments
expressed
by
rural
residents
of
the
city.
So
when
we
presented
to
rule
advisory
committee
I
think
it
was
mr.
Wolfe
who
sits
on
the
committee
said
you
know,
you
really
need
to
look
at
this
bylaw
with
the
lens
of
a
rural
resident,
and
that's
certainly
we've
taken
that
to
heart,
and
we
are
right
now
looking
at
the
bile
on
how
it
applies
itself
to
a
rural
area.
I
will
say
the
bylaw
exists
today.
D
So
I
don't
know
what
sort
of
that
word.
Consultation
was
done
when
it
was
first
passed,
but
it
is.
It
is
in
effect
today
and
it
does
apply
itself
to
the
rural
area.
Although
we
don't
see
a
lot
of
it
in
the
ruler.
You
don't
get
involved
in
the
rural
area
very
often
with
respect
to
the
bylaw,
but
that
being
said,
if
it
doesn't,
if
it
has
the
potential
to
apply
itself
in
a
negative
way,
I
think
we
want
to
look
at
that.
D
So
we
are
committed
to
coming
back
to
real
advisory
committee
for
for
public
meeting,
so
I
had
encouraged
through
mr
Sutherland
and
everyone
else
in
the
room
to
tell
your
neighbors
and
make
sure
that
when
we
find
that
date
that
works
people
are
are
aware
of.
The
meeting
will
do
some
communication
as
well
on
the
website
and-
and
hopefully
we
can
get
an
effective
way
of
communication
it,
because
that
area
represents
like
the
gentleman
mentioned,
the
eighty
percent
of
the
lander
in
the
city.
D
It's
tough
to
do
a
sort
of
a
specific
mail
out,
but
that
might
be
an
option
as
well.
So
we'll
look
at
how
we
can
communicate
that
we're
having
a
meeting,
and
hopefully
you
get
a
good
turnout
for
that
I'm.
It
will
be
after
the
the
election
of
the
by-election
for
the
elec
I'm
feeling
the
countryside
district
position.
D
Commercial
harvesting
is
something
we're
going
to
have
to
come
back
to
the
bylaw
does
not,
as
anne-marie
mentioned,
the
by
law
doesn't
apply
itself
to
dead
or
diseased
trees.
So,
if
you're
clearing
trees
that
fell
down
over
the
course
of
the
bad
winter
you're
exempt
from
the
bylaw
anyway,
so
by
all
means
go
ahead
and
do
that
work
and
yes,
thank
you.
So
the
other
thing
is
for
personal
use.
D
So
if
you
have
a
wood
stove
that
you're
cutting
trees
down
to
feed
into
your
wood
stove
by
all
means
continue
that
practice,
there's
no
no
application.
The
bile
I
don't
need
a
permit.
Only
the
only
real
interest
of
the
city
is.
It
relates
to
the
rural
area.
Is
the
mass
removal
of
trees
either
for
commercial
sale
or
just
strictly
clear-cutting
massive
piles
of
trees?
D
And
even
in
that
case,
it's
the
really
it's
the
areas
that
are
environmentally
significant,
so
where
the
city
has
in
partnership
with
the
cataraqui
region,
Conservation
Authority
identified
and
mapped
I'll
just
jump
to
the
map,
real
quick,
these
quite
significant
areas
in
darker
green.
These
are
the
areas
that
have
been
demonstrated
through
technical
study
to
have
ecological
value,
and
so
we
would
be
really
concerned
to
see
mass
clearing
in
these
areas.
There
might
be
an
opportunity
and
something
we
want
to
investigate.
D
Further
is
partial
removal
in
these
areas
with
no
no
consideration
through
the
bylaw
again
just
a
part
of
real
living
wanting
to
allow
moderate
amounts
of
clearing
back
mr.
Burley
I
think
mentioned:
permit
for
cleaning
up
fields
so
again,
if
you're,
just
clearing
dead
or
diseased
trees
by
law
doesn't
apply
if
you're
clearing
it
to
accommodate
a
normal
farm
practice
like
you're
clearing
a
tree
row
to
accommodate
your
machinery
or
you're,
just
expanding
your
field
for
pastor
or
cropland
again
as
part
of
a
normal
farm
practice,
you're
exempt
I.
D
Do
regret
that
miss
Mallon
didn't
get
notice
of
tonight's
meeting.
We've
had
a
couple
meetings
now
and
we
put
we
put
the
word
out
on
our
website
and
we
do
correspondence,
but
we're
maybe
not
reaching
out
enough
to
the
rural
community.
So
we'll
we'll
look
at
that
with
our
communications
group
and
mr.
Hawley.
D
The
meeting
will
be
in
in
likely
Glen
Burnie
at
the
Glen
Burnie
fire
hall,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
it's
in
the
northern
part,
so
it's
more
accessible
to
people
that
live
north
of
the
401
and
as
they
are,
you
mentioned,
we'll
look
at
dead
element
ash
and
how
we
might
incorporate
that
as
an
exemption
in
the
bylaw.
So
it's
clear
and
it
might
be
opportunities
to
look
at
maybe
applying
the
bile
out
to
Hamlet's,
as
opposed
to
the
rural
area
at
large
and
again
that
something
will
need
to
take
back
as
feedback.
D
B
Through
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
The
significant
woodlands
were
identified
and
mapped
out
through
the
central
region,
cataraqui
natural
heritage
study,
so
they
did
consider
criteria
when
they
were
mapping
out
the
significant
woodlands,
so
the
criteria
that
they
considered
was
the
age.
So
there's
some
quantifiable
criteria,
as
here
in
the
points
here
so
well,
then
contains
forest
patches
over
100
years
old
he'd
taken
consideration
the
size
if
it's
40
hectares
in
size,
consideration
with
the
interior
habitat
any
connections
with
a
riparian
habitat
as
well
as
well
as
a
connectivity
to
the
natural
heritage
system.
D
Three,
madam
chair,
so
aggregate
operations,
mining
operations
are
are
right.
Now
aggregate
operations
are
exempt
in
the
viola.
I
will
just
for
the
benefit
of
everyone
here
today.
One
of
the
other
changes
we're
contemplating
is
to
also
exempt
mining
operations,
specifically
as
it
relates
to
the
wall
ass
tonight,
mine
in
Kingston,
and
the
reason
for
that
is-
and
this
was
discussed
briefly
with
the
official
plan-
is
there
are
different
hierarchies
of
provincial
interest.
D
So,
while
the
province
certainly
gives
priority
to
natural
heritage
features,
one
of
which
is
significant
woodlands,
they
give
greater
priority
and
emphasis
to
the
extraction
of
resources
rock
because
of
the
urgency
or
the
need
to
have
it
close
to
markets.
So
that
being
said,
so
there's
there's
almost
a
bit
of
an
elevation
of
the
removal.
D
Yes,
that
being
said,
though,
with
purple
with
proposals
for
new
extractive
operations,
we
do
ask
for
a
tree
preservation
plan
and
there's
a
remedi,
the
remediation
plan
with
any
mining
operation
or
extraction
operation.
So
it's
not
just
that
they
leave
a
hole
in
the
ground,
there's
an
expectation
that
they're
they're,
bringing
it
back
to
a
more
original
status.
D
So
it's
a
good
question
in
three
mem
share,
so
the
zoning
speaks
to
the
use,
so
the
zoning
would
speak
to
agriculture
as
a
use
as
a
permitted
use.
The
zoning
viola
doesn't
get
into
the
details
of
the
activities
like
the
clearing
of
trees
or
the
pasturing
of
cattle.
The
tree
bylaw,
on
the
other
hand,
is
more
specific
to
the
activities.
D
So
if
you
were
in
a
rural
zone
in
more
of
an
urban
context,
let's
say-
and
you
were
clearing
a
bunch
of
trees
for
farming
there's
probably
the
first
thing
is
probably
often
that
you're
doing
a
use,
that's
likely
not
permitted
in
a
residential
zone,
so
the
use
itself
would
be
contrary
to
the
zoning
permission.
So
we
would
likely
have
a
conversation
about
that.
So
it's
the
to
kind
of
work
together,
but
the
tree
bylaw
gets
down
to
the
level
of
detail
of
actual
activity,
so
cutting
down
trees
for
a
specific
purpose.