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From YouTube: Kingston Ontario - Planning Committee - June 20, 2019
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Planning Committee meeting from June 20, 2019. For the full meeting agenda visit http://bit.ly/2k6UUGr
A
Didn't
last
person
in,
but
nobody
took
me
up
on
it,
it's
parking,
we
all
know
that's
the
problem,
so
I
will
call
the
meeting
to
order.
We
just
have
the
one
item
on
the
meeting
and
that's
a
second
public
meeting
on
a
project
upcoming
project.
I
will
read
the
public
meeting.
Introduction
I
should
have
have
memorized
this
by
now,
but
I
haven't
notice
of
collection,
personal
information
collected
as
a
result
of
this
public
hearing
and
on
the
forms
provided
at
the
back.
A
The
room
is
collected
under
the
authority
of
the
Planning
Act
and
will
be
used
to
assist
in
making
a
decision
on
this
matter.
All
names
addresses
opinions
and
comments
may
be
collected.
It
may
form
part
of
the
minutes
which
will
be
available
to
the
public
questions
regarding
the
collection
should
be
forwarded
to
the
Director
of
Planning
and
Development,
and
that
can
be
done
through
the
clerk's
office.
A
The
purpose
of
public
meetings
is
to
present
planning
applications
in
a
public
forum,
as
required
by
the
Planning
Act
following
presentations
by
the
applicant
committee,
members
will
be
afforded
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
for
clarification
or
further
information.
The
meeting
will
then
be
open
to
the
public
for
commenting
questions.
Interested
persons
are
requested
to
give
their
name
and
address
for
recording
in
the
minutes,
there's
also
a
sign-in
sheet
for
interested
members
of
the
public,
its
back
of
the
room.
No
decisions
are
made
at
public
meetings
concerning
applications.
A
Unless
otherwise
noted
the
public
meeting
is
held
to
gather
public
opinion.
An
exception
to
the
rule
is
a
combined
reports
which
consolidates
the
public
meeting
and
comprehensive
reports.
These
applications
are
deemed
by
staff
as
straightforward
and
routine.
This
business
practice
has
been
in
place
for
a
number
of
years
and
is
received
by
the
applicants
as
efficient
custom
service
and
effective
use
of
committee
time.
A
A
Information
gathered
is
then
referred
back
to
planning
and
development
staff
for
the
preparation
of
a
comprehensive
report
and
recommendation
to
the
planning
committee.
This
means
that
the
meeting
tonight
at
the
after
the
meeting
tonight
staff
will
be
considering
the
comments
made
by
the
public
in
their
further
review
of
the
applications.
When
this
review
is
completed,
a
report
will
be
prepare
prepared,
making
a
recommendation
for
action
to
this
committee.
The
recommendation
is
typically
to
approve
with
conditions
or
to
deny.
A
The
committee
then
makes
a
recommendation
on
the
applications
to
City
Council
City
Council
has
the
final
say
on
the
applications.
From
the
city's
perspective,
following
Council
decision
notice
will
be
circulated
in
accordance
with
the
Planning
Act.
If
a
person
or
public
body
would
otherwise
have
an
ability
to
appeal.
The
decision
of
the
Council
of
the
corporation
of
the
city
of
Kingston
to
the
local
planning,
Appeal
Tribunal,
but
the
person
or
public
body
does
not
make
oral
submissions
at
a
public
meeting
or
make
written
submissions
to
the
City
of
Kingston
before
the
bylaws
passed.
A
B
Thank
you
excuse
me.
So,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
the
second
public
meeting
for
this
application.
The
application
is
to
amend
the
zoning
bylaw
to
permit
the
proposed
development
which
I'll
I
will
present
to
you.
The
first
public
meeting
was
in
May
of
2015,
so
it's
it's
been
some
time
and
that's
the
reason
for
the
second
public
meeting.
B
The
site
is
shown
here
within
the
context
of
the
City
of
Kingston,
just
north
of
Princess
Street
west
of
Division
Street
within
the
neighborhood
of
Williamsville.
You
can
see
an
aerial
shot
of
the
neighborhood
here
again
just
north
of
Princess
Street.
We
see
this
collection
of
retail
commercial
uses,
a
Main,
Street
type
atmosphere.
The
houses
surrounding
the
site
are
mainly
low-rise
residential.
You
can
see
some
of
the
larger
rooms
just
between
the
Elm
Street
and
Colborne
Street
labels.
B
That's
evidence
of
recent
redevelopments
of
other
multifamily
projects
in
the
neighborhood
and
somewhat
of
an
indication
of
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
appropriateness
of
a
higher
density
use
within
the
area,
particularly
in
context
of
the
proximity
to
Princess
Street.
This
is
the
site
view
the
existing
context
of
the
four
sites
that
comprise
this
development.
So
we
have
64
Elm,
Street,
60
and
62
243
Colborne
and
235
Colborne
Street.
All
our
older
houses
been
through
a
few
renovations
and
certainly
are
lower
density
for
their
proximity
to
the
Main
Street
of
Princess.
B
Similarly,
within
the
zoning
bylaw
you
can
see,
the
b3
zone
is,
is
our
designation
for
multi-family
residential
and
that's
the
area
that
is
bound
by
Elm
Street
and
division
that
red
line
that
follows
I,
guess
I
can
show
with
my
mouse
here
there
we
go.
The
Elm
Street
this
border
here
is
the
b3
zone
again
that
same
place
where
we
saw
the
larger
roofs
indicating
appropriate
uses
higher
density
uses
in
proximity
to
a
Main
Street.
B
This
is
our
proposed
development
application,
so
we
have
24
units
of
stacked
townhouses
in
total.
16
of
those
will
be
along
Colborne,
Street
8
will
be
along
Elm
Street.
The
inside
interior
of
the
lot
will
be
used
for
parking
amenity
spaces,
bicycle
parking,
garbage
storage.
Those
kind
of
things
are
locked
coverage
for
the
the
site
is
32
percent
for
a
building
area
and
we're
0.2
hectares
large.
Overall,
it's
worth
noting
that
each
of
the
units
will
be
three-bedroom
units
and
with
the
stock
townhouse
configuration.
B
This
is
the
site
plan
for
the
application.
Again,
you
can
see
the
amenity
space
within
the
center,
the
parking
spaces
and
the
units
you
can
see.
Some
of
the
faded
in
background
here
with
the
existing
residential
buildings
were
generally
in
keeping
with
that
established
building
line
along
Elm
Street,
as
you
can
see
from
this
rendering,
as
well
as
on
Colborne
Street,
we're
in
a
similar
instance
of
in
line
with
that
general
building
setback
that's
been
established.
This
is
a
sample
elevation
of
the
Colborne
Street
proposal,
showing
some
of
the
proposed
finishes
of
brick
metal
would.
B
We
can
go,
I
won't
go
through
all
of
these,
but
these
are
essentially
the
amendments
that
we
are
seeking
to
the
bylaw
the
first
few
and
where
they
correlate
to
on
the
site
plan
itself.
The
first
few
are
regarding
the
provisions
or
permissions
on
the
site
to
allow
the
stack,
townhouse
format,
the
second
being
to
allow
dwelling
units
within
the
cellar
which
is
worth
noting
that
it's
only
a
half
basement,
not
a
not
a
full
basement,
so
it'll
be
half
above-ground.
B
Some
others
are
regarding
parking
rates
and
parking
space
dimensions.
The
parking
rates
we've
reduced
from
a
requirement
of
one
point,
four
to
zero
point:
eight
three,
which
means
twenty
spaces
across
the
twenty
four
units.
This
was
justified
by
our
traffic
study
submitted
with
the
application.
The
parking
space
dimensions
are
typical
in
other
cities
and
are
something
that
have
been
accepted
in
other
cities:
zoning
bylaws,
even
so
very
much
in
keeping
with
a
more
urban
format
of
development,
the
setbacks
along
the
sides.
B
You
can
see
we're
in
tighter
conditions,
and
this
is
to
allow
the
parking
within
the
rear,
rather
than
along
the
street,
providing
the
site
access
and
our
increased
setbacks
along
Colborne
Street
forced
us
to
shift
and
while
maintaining
this
side
setback
shift
this
and
this
side
setback
can
make
it
a
little
smaller,
but
I
I'll
get
into
that
skipping
down
to
lot
density
and
lot
occupancy.
We
haven't
proposed
an
increase
in
bought
occupancy
to
one
hundred
and
thirteen
percent.
B
B
For
those
of
you
who
weren't
here
at
the
2015
public
meeting,
I
certainly
wasn't.
This
was
the
proposal
that
we
presented
and
you'll
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
the
proposal
that
we're
presenting
today
and
I'm
sure
everyone
will
notice
that
these
two
are
very
very
similar.
There
are
not
many
changes
and
we've
highlighted
the
changes
for
you
it
down
the
middle.
These
include
increased
setbacks
to
both
the
frontages
increased
landscape
area
overall,
which
brings
our
total
landscape
covered
area
to
35%
on
the
site.
B
So
with
that,
the
next
steps
of
this
application,
given
that
we've
taken
four
years
since
our
first
meeting
we're
hoping
to
receive
approval
from
Council
later
this
year
in
the
fall
and
ultimately
this
will
have
to
go
through
the
site
plan
approval
process
still
in
the
following
year.
And
that's
all
anyone
has
any
questions.
Thank.
C
Q
through
you,
mr.
Chang
as
the
applicant-
and
you
noted,
this
is
the
second
public
meeting
for
this
application.
I
noticed
for
the
meeting
this
evening
was
given
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
the
Planning
Act
to
date.
With
respect
to
this
second
public
meeting
staff
haven't
received
any
inquiries
or
comments.
A
D
Of
all
I
like
to
thank
you
for
the
clarity
of
your
presentation,
I've
seen
a
number
of
presentations
sitting
on
this
committee,
and
that
was
by
far
one
of
the
best
presented
that
I've
been
able
to
read
the
documentation
and
then
come
here
and
just
actually
enjoy
the
slide
presentation.
With
your
commentary,
noting
that
Kingston
declared
a
climate
emergency
in
March,
are
you
planning
on
having
any
of
those
parking
spots
electrified
having
electric
parking
spots
available.
E
Our
intent
is
to
have
that's
a
site
plan
in
question,
but
our
intent
is
to
do
that
because
that's
becoming
a
norm
in
the
building
code
for
single-family
homes
and
I
think
multi-family
residents
should
have
the
same
opportunity.
So
we
will.
We
will
consider
that
and
we
would
like
to
incorporate
it
be
part
of
our
site
plan.
A
Point
out
that,
because
we
do
site
plan
discussions
at
the
same
time
that
we
go
through
zoning,
the
Planning
Department
does
typically
in
our
planning
process,
we're
a
little
bit
more
liberal
in
allowing
people
to
ask
site
plan
questions
at
the
public
meeting
stage.
So
thank
you.
Councillor,
sanic
I'm.
A
A
There
are
certain
things
that
are
in
our
official
plan
that
currently
say
point
out
the
shoulds,
not
the
show,
not
always
the
shells,
but
at
this
committee
stage
we
often
ask
questions
such
as
an
encourage
and
our
staff
dutifully
write
them
down
and
they
encourage
developers
later
to
consider
an
electric
charging
station
in
the
parking
lot,
and
one
thing
I
always
bring
up
is
there's
a
should
in
our
official
plan
about
using
permeable
hard
surface,
which
I
understand
may
be
modestly
more
expensive
than
the
hard
surface.
But
it's
a
lot.
A
It's
a
lot
better
for
avoiding
potential
flooding
conditions
in
heavy
rainfalls.
So
again,
that's
something
I'd.
Definitely
encourage
you
to
consider
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
have
done
a
really
nice
job
on
both
Albert
Street
and
your
former
property
on
max
Street
and
I'm,
assuming
these
will
be
kind
of
similar
quality,
stacked
townhouses
that
you've
built
before.
E
A
You
and
I
will
bring
up
a
couple
of
questions
in
reference
to
commenting
on
that.
You
did
a
very
good
job
on
secure
bike
parking,
particularly
on
Albert
Street.
Is
it
your
intention
to
have
the
required
number,
or
even
more,
in
a
secured
bike
shed
on
property
and
I'll?
Ask
a
similar
question
in
a
minute
about
I'll:
ask
it
now
about
waste
management,
which
you
handle
very
well
I,
believe
on
Albert
Street.
E
One
other
note
to
that
effect:
Ida
mentioned
that
these
units
are
3-bedroom.
The
projects
you
mentioned
are
four-bedroom,
predominantly
four
bedroom
units
so
with
the
same
ratio
of
one
spot
so
technically,
there's
a
chance
that
there's
more
bike
parking
per
occupant
than
those
other
projects,
so
I
think
it's
appropriate,
but
we
can
sort
that
out
through
cycling.
F
G
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
thank
you
to
the
proponents,
for
the
presentation
also
praise
the
clarity
of
the
work
tonight.
I
was
just
wondering
if
maybe
the
slides
could
have
been
included
in
the
agenda
package.
That
would
have
been
helpful.
Some
of
my
questions
have
already
been
asked,
but
I
do
want
to
ask
some
of
the
others.
I
was
wasn't
able
to
tell
from
the
diagram
whether
you're
planning
to
have
elevators
in
the
building.
So
that's
the
question
I
walked
by
there
today
to
take
a
look
at
it.
I
might
live
about
seven
blocks
away.
G
So
let's
give
my
address
essentially
$405
for
Department
to
case
of
them
K
for
day
for
a
little
bit,
seven
blocks
away.
I
spent
about
half
an
hour
looking
at
the
property
is
set
for
noon
and
I
noticed
the
Elm
Street,
which
is
on
the
north,
is
substantially
narrower
than
coal
burn,
which
is
on
the
south
and
it's
a
narrow
street,
especially
in
winter
when
you
have
small
and
that
sort
of
thing
going
on,
and
it's
also
right
off,
Chatham
Street,
which
is
also
very
narrow.
It's
an
older
part
of
the
city.
G
What
I'm
wondering
is
you're
saying
you
have
72
bedrooms
that
you're
planning
with
the
two
buildings
combined
and
all
the
units?
How
many
bedrooms
are
there
in
the
existing
houses
that
are
there
now
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
that
and
Weaver
useful
tune?
All
now,
I'm
wondering
as
well
I
think
this
is
an
important
point.
G
You've
got
a
large
surface
area
for
parking
there
as
you
need
the
20
spots
and
the
landscape
is
basically
bubble.
So
what
is
your
stormwater
management
plan?
You've
got
a
lot
of
exposed
pavement
there.
That's
gonna
generate
snow
land
so
far,
so
didn't
see
that
in
the
report-
and
it
is
an
older
neighborhood-
are
there
any
heritage
related
aspects
coming
into
play
here?
I,
don't
see
in
a
special
value
in
the
quality
of
the
buildings
that
are
there,
they're
functional
but
they're
not
see
landmarks,
a
building
and
so
forth.
A
G
Seconds,
thank
you.
This
is
not
in
the
Williams
on
Main
Street
study
area.
I
think
it
misses
by
about
a
block
right
I
think
you
pointed
that
I
just
wanted
prayer
for
that
cuz
I
was
in
on
the
pond
the
discussion
on
that
and
we
distrusted
that
the
winds,
ville
Association,
so
I've
been
impressed
with
podiums
work
in
the
past.
So.
G
A
H
First,
no
because
the
the
sidewalks
and
all
that
and
to
follow
this
gentleman
I
wanted
to
know
if,
in
addition
to
you
know,
creating
a
look
that
can
encompass
some
of
the
heritage,
the
rich
heritage
that
we
have
in
Kingston
if
the
materials
can
be
sourced
sustainably.
As
we
look
to
achieve
our
our
plans,
our
city
plan
of
fewer
carbon
emissions
and
such.
B
So
speaking
to
I'm
just
gonna
go
in
order
here
we
are
not
anticipating
to
have
any
elevators
within
these
buildings,
its
they
are
split-level,
stacked
or
they're,
stacked,
townhouse
units,
and
so
some
will
be
partial
down.
Some
of
you
partial
up
and
doesn't
justify
use
of
an
elevator
within
these
or
sixty
no
twenty,
four
elevators
feather
twelve,
yes,
secondly,
Elm
streets
and
the
traffic
the
we
did
have
a
traffic
or
transportation
consultant
study
the
flows,
the
absent
flows
of
the
traffic
throughout
the
day,
and
it
was
found
to
be
appropriate
it's.
B
It
is
a
good
point
that
although
Elm
Street
is
narrower,
sometimes
site
layout
restrictions,
and
certainly
the
shape
of
the
lot
play
a
factor
in
how
you
can
utilize
a
site
and
how
you
can
lay
out
the
the
different
components
and
that
certainly
played
a
factor
here.
The
existing
number
of
bedrooms-
I
do
not
know
off
the
top
of
my
head
hold
on
it's
it's
twenty
20
bedrooms
currently
so
we'd
be
replacing
2272
in
terms
of
stormwater
management.
B
That's
certainly
a
item
that
is
dealt
with
through
site
plan
approval
and
there
are
many
ways
that
we
could
accomplish.
This
on
the
site
and
provide
some
infiltration
or
retention
heritage
concerns
have
been
considered
and
found
not
to
be
an
issue
on
the
site.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up,
certainly
Kingston's,
a
beautiful
city
and
there's
good
reason
and
I
appreciate
you
raising
the
Williams
bill
concern
as
well.
A
C
A
I
Tendency
for
the
minimum
bicycle
parking
space
dimensions
to
be
allowed,
that
is
their
lower,
what's
being
proposed,
it
tends
to
be
looks
like
going
to
be
approved,
is
lower
than
what
is
required
and
then
I've
started
to
wonder
whether
we're
actually
encouraging
bicycle
use.
The
things
particularly
efficient
by
Sahu
use
because
leaving
less
room
for
the
bicycles
each
to
be
parked.
One
staff
is
responsible
and
yes,
I
know
they
can
hang
them,
and
but
the
more
you
jammed
them
together.
The
worse
the
facility
is
they.
A
C
A
Think
mr.
Hutchison
is
asking
for
a
vote
on
that
decision.
A
couple
of
just
a
couple
of
quick
questions:
I
look
at
when
you're
proposing
to
get
a
building
permit,
which
give
me
a
certain
amount
of
optimism
because
there's
at
least
one
major
development
on
Princess
Street
that
will
somewhat
overlap
with
this
development
and
there's
another
one.
I
understand
coming
down
the
pipe
and
having
two
or
three
projects
within
a
close
proximity
could
create
some
nightmares
for
the
neighborhood.
A
How
will
you
I'm,
assuming
Chatham,
is
a
very
narrow
street,
so
I'm
assuming
you,
won't
be
using
Chatham
Street
much
for
construction
vehicles
or
that
and
there
isn't
as
much
site
preparation.
That's
gonna
be
required
on
this
site.
But
how
do
you
propose
to
not
have
an
impact
with
the
other
larger
developments?
Just
south
of
you.
A
A
There's
a
lot
of
green
space
there.
Now
that's
gonna
become
a
hard
surface
and
I'm
I
believe
and
staff
will
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
as
they
always
do.
I
I
believe
that
the
condition
of
the
development
is
that
it
has
to
have
either
the
same
amount
of
drainage
from
the
site
or
less
drainage
from
the
site,
and
that
we
will
be
getting
a
stormwater
report
before
the
comprehensive
recommendation
comes
word.
Is
that
accurate?
A
C
C
Thank
you.
Yes.
So
there
has
been
a
stormwater
management
report
submitted
for
the
zoning,
which
will
also
play
into
the
site
plan
as
well,
and
certainly
engineering
standard.
Is
that
the
the
on-site
drainage,
the
flows
post-development,
have
to
equal
at
least
pre
development,
or
be
less
than,
and
certainly
as
to
what
that
exact
standard
should
be,
for
this
say,
there's
something
that
will
work
out
with
our
colleagues
in
engineering
and
with
the
applicant
as
it
moves
forward
for
site
plan
and.
A
C
Do
you,
mr.
chance,
so
certainly
right
now,
all
that
information
is
reviewed
by
staff
within
engineering
who
do
have
actually
key
staff
who
specialize
solely
in
stormwater
management.
So
we
can
check
with
them
in
terms
of
their
review
and
any
comments
that
they
have.
It
would
only
be
in
a
case
where
the
staff
had
serious
concerns
over
what
was
presented
and
what
could
be
accomplished
on
the
site,
I
think
where
we
would
seek
an
outside
third
opinion,
and
so
certainly
given
the
number
of
comments
that
have
been
raised.
I
can
certainly
address
that.
A
A
A
This
may
become
one
of
our
shortest
planning
meetings
ever
will
now
going
into
our
regular
meeting.
I'll
call
the
meeting
to
order
approval
of
the
agenda
mover
and
a
seconder
for
approving
the
agenda.
Thank
You
councillor
sanic
with
the
added
thank
you
moved
in
seconded
all
those
in
favor
carried
confirmation
of
minutes
from
our
November
13th
and
June
6
I'm.
Sorry
number
13
held
June
6th
mover
Thank
You
councillor
Chappell
seconded
by
councillor
Hutchison
any
comments
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
carried
disclosure
pecuniary
interest,
seeing
none
delegations-
yes,.