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From YouTube: Kingston, Ontario - Planning Committee - June 17, 2021
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Planning Committee meeting from June 17, 2021. For full meeting agenda please visit: https://bit.ly/3gCncmH
A
Thank
you
very
much,
okay,
so
welcome
to
this
evening's
meeting,
everyone
I'm
going
to
begin
with
a
quick
introduction
just
to
let
everyone
know
who
is
present
in
the
meeting.
So
I
will
start
with
committee
members.
We
currently
have
councillor
kylie
councillor
osanag
and
councillor
neal
with
us
this
evening.
We
have
received
regrets
from
councillor
hill
and
we
do
hope
that
council
hutchison
will
be
joining
us
presently
for
staff
members
who
are
joining
us.
A
This
evening
we
have
tim
park
acting
director
of
planning
services,
james
barr,
acting
manager,
development
approvals,
philip
prell
planner,
megan,
robidu,
planner,
walid,
albacree
senior,
planner,
ian
semple,
director
of
transportation
services.
Laura
johnson
is
joining
us
as
our
meeting
host,
and
I
am
elizabeth
fawcett
and
I'm
here
as
the
committee
clerk
for
the
planning
committee.
A
Currently,
we
have
approximately
five
agents
and
applicants
joining
us
to
speak
to
the
various
files
this
evening
and
we
have
six
members
of
the
public
who
are
with
us
currently.
So
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
chair
neil,
as
he
is
present
in
the
meeting
he
he
will
be
the
one
to
read,
get
us
started
and
read
our
introduction,
and
then
we
can
turn
it
over
to
vice
chair
kylie.
B
Happy
too,
thank
you
very
much
and
just
as
a
heads
up,
I
have
it
put
in
a
notice
of
potential
conflict
of
interest
for
this
public
meeting,
so
I'll
be
logging
off.
As
soon
as
I
complete
this,
my
daughter
happens
to
own
a
home
four
doors
down
from
from
this
address,
so
notice
of
collection,
personal
information
collected
as
a
result
of
this
public
hearing
and
process
is
collected
under
under
the
authority
of
the
planning
act
and
will
be
used
to
assist
in
making
a
decision
on
this
matter.
B
The
purpose
of
public
meetings
is
to
present
planning
applications
in
a
public
forum,
as
required
by
the
planning
act
following
presentations
by
the
applicant
committee.
Members
will
be
afforded
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
for
clarification
or
further
information.
The
meeting
will
then
be
open
to
the
public
for
comments
and
questions.
B
Interested
persons
are
requested
to
give
their
names
and
addresses
for
recording
in
the
minutes,
interested
members
of
the
public
can
email
the
committee
clerk
or
the
assigned
planner
if
they
wish
to
be
notified.
Regarding
a
particular
application,
no
decisions
are
made
at
public
meetings
concerning
applications.
Unless
otherwise
noted
the
public
meeting
is
held
to
gather
public
opinion.
B
An
exception
to
this
rule
is
a
combined
report
which
consolidates
the
public
meeting
and
comprehensive
reports.
These
applications
are
deemed
by
staff
as
straightforward
and
routine.
This
business
practice
has
been
in
place
for
a
number
of
years
and
is
received
by
the
applicants
as
efficient
customer
service
and
effective
use
of
committee
time.
B
Public
meeting
reports
are
provided
to
inform
the
public
of
relevant
information
information
gathered
is
then
referred
back
to
planning
services
staff
for
the
preparation
of
a
comprehensive
report
and
recommendation
to
the
planning
committee.
This
means
that
after
the
meeting
tonight,
staff
will
be
considering
the
comments
made
by
the
public
in
their
further
review
of
the
applications.
B
When
this
review
is
complete
completed,
a
report
will
be
prepared
making
a
recommendation
for
action
to
this
committee.
The
recommendation
is
typically
to
approve
with
conditions
or
to
deny.
The
committee
then
makes
a
recommendation
on
the
applications
to
city
council
city
council
has
the
final
say
on
the
applications.
B
From
the
city's
perspective
following
council
decision
notice
will
be
circulated
in
accordance
with
the
planning
act
if
a
person
or
public
body
would
otherwise
have
an
ability
to
appeal
the
decision
or
of
the
council
of
the
corporation
of
the
city
of
kingston
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal,
but
that
person
or
public
body
does
not
make
oral
submissions
at
a
public
meeting
or
make
written
submissions
to
the
city
of
kingston
before
the
bylaw
is
passed.
That
person
or
public
body
is
not
entitled
to
appeal
the
decision.
B
So
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
councillor
kylie.
Just
a
quick
question
to
the
clerk
losing
quorum
doesn't
mean,
if
losing
my
vote,
for
declaring
a
conflict
won't
mean
that
we've
lost
corn.
Is
that
accurate.
A
That
is
correct,
mr
chair,
in
the
event
that
a
member
has
a
pecuniary
interest
and
we
happen
to
quote-
lose
quorum,
we
are
not
losing
quorum
for
the
for
the
meeting,
as
you
will
be
returning
once.
The
matter
is
dealt
with
excellent.
B
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thanks,
counselor
neal,
we'll
see
you
in
a
few
minutes
so
good
evening.
Everyone.
I
am
now
going
to
read
the
notice
for
the
public
meeting,
which
is
held
pursuant
to
the
planning
act.
C
The
following
public
meeting
report
to
the
planning
committee
regarding
an
application
for
zoning
bylaw
amendment
submitted
by
ibi
group,
incorporated
on
behalf
of
adam
and
paul
candon,
with
respect
to
the
subject
site
located
at
178,
rito
street
three
raglan
road
and
five
raglan
road.
The
report
describes
the
proposed
application
and
includes
an
overview
of
the
relevant
policies
and
regulations
that
will
be
evaluated
as
part
of
a
future
comprehensive.
C
The
application
or
the
applicant
rather
is
proposing
to
retain
the
existing
single
unit.
Dwelling
containing
four
bedrooms
at
five
raglan
road
on
its
own
parcel.
While
the
existing
three
unit
dwelling
at
178,
rito
street
and
three
raglan
road
is
proposed
to
be
demolished
and
be
replaced
with
a
3.5
story.
Six
unit
dwelling
containing
nine
to
ten
bedrooms
in
total
on
a
separate
parcel
from
five
raglan
road,
as
the
two
separate
parcels
are
intended
to
function
as
a
single
entity
in
terms
of
its
zoning
considerations,
single
zone
is
proposed
to
encompass
both
properties.
C
C
The
applicant
is
proposing
the
following
changes,
which
are
encompassed
in
the
zoning
by-law
amendment
to
recognize
the
existing
lot
location
of
the
single-unit
building,
municipally
known
as
five
regular
road
provide
bicycle
parking
for
all
seven
units,
with
an
alternative.
Vertical
storage
configuration
a
parking
reduction
from
seven
required
spaces
to
four
spaces,
with
slightly
reduced
dimensions,
reduced
front
yard
setbacks,
a
slightly
higher
lot
coverage
than
permitted
and
increased
the
maximum
permitted
density,
a
reduction
to
the
required
amenity
space
with
a
modified
configuration,
reduced
length
for
accessible
parking
spaces
and
the
related
access
aisle.
C
A
split
parking
configuration
and
reduced
setbacks
for
projections
on
the
deck
or
porch.
This
proposal
will
also
be
subject
to
site
plan
control
due
to
increasing
number
of
units
beyond
four.
So
we're
going
to
call
this
public
meeting
to
order
and
first
matter
I'll
turn
it
to
staff
rather
to
the
applicant's
planner
to
comment
further.
Thank.
D
E
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
emma
stuki,
I'm
a
planner
at
ibi
group
and
we'll
be
presenting
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
owner,
adam
cannon
for
the
proposed
development
at
178,
rito
street
and
5
raglan
road
next
slide,
please.
E
So
the
property
is
located
in
the
inner
harbor
neighborhood
across
from
rita
crest
towers,
and
you
can
see
it's
two
properties
right
at
the
corner
of
rito
and
raglan
next
slide.
Please.
E
So
it's
in
the
other
harder
neighborhood
there's
a
mix
of
residential
housing
types
nearby.
The
boys
and
girls
club
is
located
to
the
north,
and
it's
east
is
rideau
crest,
home
and
further
east
is
the
rideau
river
south
of
the
development
is
neighborhood
residential
uses
as
well
as
riverview
park.
Further
south
about
700
meters
is
downtown
kingston,
I'm
into
the
west,
as
is
again
residential
neighborhood
with
a
mix
of
housing
types
and
some
neighborhood
commercial
uses
next
slide,
please.
E
So
it's
located
on
a
kingston
transit
route.
The
slide
before
showed
the
transit
stops
around
raglan
road
and
rito
street.
I'm
a
quick
walk
away.
The
stops
are
for
kingston
transit
route
1,
which
provides
connections
to
downtown
kingston.
The
montreal
street
area,
rideau
heights,
neighborhood
queens
west
campus,
as
well
as
st
lawrence
college,
and
we
see
here
a
view
of
the
site
with
the
rideau
crest
tower
in
the
background,
as
well
as
adjacent
development
on
rideau
street
next
slide,
please.
E
So
the
total
site
area
is
541
square
meters.
Approximately.
It
has
frontage
on
both
rideau
and
raglan
road.
Five
raglan
road
is
developed
with
a
single
unit
and
it
contains
four
bedrooms
and
178
rito
street
is
shown
in
red
here.
There's
currently,
zero
separation
between
the
buildings
and
access
to
the
property
right
now
is
provided
directly
from
rito
street.
E
As
you
can
see,
the
gravel
parking
area
in
the
rear
of
the
dwelling,
as
well
as
over
a
right-of-way
over
seven
raglan
road,
which
you
can
see
just
to
the
left
there
of
that
photo
and
parking
area,
is
provided
in
the
rear
yard.
There
next
slide,
please
so
the
owner
is
proposing
to
demolish
the
existing
three
unit,
dwelling
at
178
rito
street.
E
That
was
the
lower
section
shown
on
the
slide
before
and
they're
proposing
to
construct
a
new
3.5
story,
6
unit
dwelling
at
178
rito,
and
the
intention
is
to
preserve
the
existing
house
at
five
like
raglan
road.
It's
in
really
good
condition.
So
wanting
to
preserve
that
and
then
the
proposal
includes
shared
outdoor
amenity
areas,
shared
parking
and
bicycle
parking
for
the
new
six
plex
and
the
existing
dwelling
next
slide.
Please
so
here
are
some
site
stats
and
that
we
can
come
to.
E
There
will
be
a
total
of
14
bedrooms
in
the
new
building,
so
amenity
space,
two
parking
spaces
proposed
on
rideau
street
and
two
proposed
in
the
rear
yard
of
raglan
road
next
slide,
please
so.
E
Here's
the
site
layout,
that's
proposed
so
as
I
was
discussing
two
parking
spaces
directly
off
of
rideau
street
two
parking
in
the
rear
at
five
raglan,
two
separate
amenity
spaces
for
the
existing
house,
at
five
raglan
and
for
the
development
at
170
rito,
the
shared
bicycle
parking
and
garbage
storage
is
proposed
between
the
existing
between
the
two
houses,
the
existing
dwelling
and
the
proposed,
and
then
landscaped
amenity
space
in
the
rear.
E
E
So
in
designing
this,
we've
been
through
a
few
design
iterations
with
staff
leading
up
to
this
concept,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
things
on
the
site
to
consider
primarily
wanting
to
maintain
the
existing
dwelling
at
five
raglan
road
shown
here
in
red
as
well.
There's
a
hydro
pole
at
the
corner
and
having
to
maintain
the
required
setbacks
from
the
corner,
as
well
as
to
considering
the
optimal
parking
configuration,
giving
quite
a
narrow
turning
radius
in
and
out.
E
We
did
test
the
parking
to
make
sure
that
these
two
spaces
proposed
in
the
rear
yard
are
functional,
as
well
as
considerations
for
a
city-owned
tree
shown
in
red
here
in
the
right-of-way
and
wanting
to
keep
the
existing
access
from
rito
street.
So
parking
is
proposed
there
to
be
maintained,
making
sure
we've
got
functional
parking
spaces
in
the
rear
for
five
raglan
and
then
providing
the
required
amenity
area
as
well
as
bicycle
parking
and
shared
garbage
storage.
E
Next
slide,
please.
So
here
are
the
proposed
elevations.
I
know
that
these
are
proposed
to
be
updated,
but,
like
I
said,
we
did
go
back
and
forth
a
few
times
on
the
site
concept.
Originally,
the
access
to
the
lower
units
were
proposed
at
the
rear
of
the
building,
and
we
switched
that,
but
just
wanted
to
get
public
feedback
before
finalizing
the
drawings.
But
the
proposed
east
elevation
torito
street
is
shown
like
this
sort
of
with
mix
of
materials.
E
About
three
and
a
half
stories
in
height
and
the
windows,
as
shown
next
slide,
please
so
here's
proposed
from
the
west
and
south
again
to
be
updated,
so
these
doors
showing
on
the
west
elevation
currently
are
proposed
on
the
sides.
So
this
would
be
yes,
not
a
show
but
similar
and
the
scale
to
give
everyone
a
sense
of
scale
and
massing
next
slide.
Please
so
requesting
a
zoning
by-law
amendment
to
permit
the
six-unit
dwelling
to
recognize
the
existing
conditions
of
the
dwelling
at
five
raglan
road
and
establish
certain
site-specific
performance
provisions.
E
So
the
proposed
development
is
consistent
with
the
provincial
policy
statement.
It
redevelops
an
underutilized
site
in
an
area
intended
for
development.
It
is
within
the
urban
growth
boundary
efficiently
uses.
Land
and
resources
does
not
result
in
the
uneconomic
extension
of
services.
It's
compatible
with
adjacent
uses
and
no
public
health
and
safety
issues
are
anticipated
next
slide,
please
so
the
proposed
or
the
subject.
Property
is
designated
residential
on
the
official
plan,
so
approximately
109
dwelling
units
are
proposed
in
terms
of
density,
so
it's
considered
a
high
density
residential
use.
E
However,
we
know
that
sort
of
the
six-plex
stock
townhouse
form
is
consistent
with
more
of
a
medium
residential,
medium
density,
residential
use,
just
in
terms
of
descriptions
in
the
op,
but
in
terms
of
location.
For
this
like
higher
intensity
development,
it's
located
close
to
the
edge
of
a
neighborhood.
It's
at
the
corner
of
redo
and
raglan
directly
across
from
a
larger
institutional
use.
E
So
the
proposed
zoning
amendment
is
consistent
with
the
scale
of
development
along
rito
street.
There's
some
like
the
building
next
door
is
approximately
two
and
a
half
stories
and
looks
to
accommodate.
Approximately
five
units
meets
the
functional
needs
of
site
users.
E
The
parking
and
amenity
space
provided
on
the
site
is
consistent
with
expectations
for
an
urban
environment.
It's
at
a
rate
of
about
0.5
over
0.5
for
parking,
helps
achieve
intensification
targets,
increases
density
in
a
serviced
area
that
has
good
location
in
terms
of
transit
service
and
provides
a
visually
compatible
design.
So
we
see
the
three
and
a
half
stories
as
a
nice
transition
between
the
five-story
tower
of
rideau
crest
homes
to
the
more
two
two
and
a
half
stories
in
the
neighborhood.
E
E
So
the
existing
zoning
is
a
one
in
two
family
dwelling
a
zone,
and
it's
proposed
that
the
property
be
zoned
special
exemption
three
to
six
family
dwelling
zone
or
in
the
b
zone.
Next
slide.
Please,
and
so
the
new
special
exception
b
zone
includes
amended
standards
to
permit
the
proposed
six
unit.
Dwelling
recognize
the
existing
conditions
at
five
raglan
road,
noting
that
it's
got
like
zero
side
yard
setbacks.
E
The
way
it
is
now
reduce
the
front
and
side
yard
setbacks
for
the
proposed
six
flex
increase
the
maximum
lot
coverage,
increase
the
maximum
density
permitted
and
reduce
the
amenity
space
from
18.5
square
meters
to
13.87
square
meters
per
unit.
E
This
is
in
order
to
accommodate
the
four
parking
spaces
in
the
rear
yard,
while
keeping
the
house
at
five
raglan,
as
well
as
the
other
considerations
we
talked
about
in
terms
of
having
to
move
the
house
so
far
away
from
the
hydro
pole,
that's
at
the
corner
and
reducing
the
parking
spaces
from
seven
spaces
to
four
units,
four
spaces
per
unit
and
reduce
the
parking
space
dimensions
from
2.7
by
6
meters
to
2.6
by
5.2
and
again,
that's
recognizing
it's
a
sort
of
constrained
site
and
infill
development
and
as
well
as
increase,
permitted
projections
for
stairs
into
the
front
yard.
E
That's
for
rita
street
next
slide,
please
so
the
amended
standards
are
appropriate
and
that
the
intensity
of
development
is
appropriate.
Given
the
site
context,
the
site
design
meets
the
needs
of
future
occupants
in
terms
of
setbacks,
unit
sizes,
parking
amenities,
source,
stormwater
management,
garbage
and
safety.
The
built
forms
compatible
with
adjacent
development.
E
E
So
the
parking
ratio
proposed
of
0.7
spaces
per
unit
is
consistent
with
the
new
parking
standards
proposed
through
the
parking
discussion
paper
that
was
released
a
couple
weeks
ago,
which
proposes
a
ratio
of
.06
spaces
per
unit
in
this
location.
In
this
neighborhood,
the
provision
of
two
separate
amenity
areas
enables
more
privacy
for
tenants
and
increased
likelihood
for
concurrent
tenant
use
of
the
two
spaces.
So,
although
it's
a
little
smaller
than
required,
recognizing
it's
a
constrained
site
and
trying
to
provide
two
quality
amenity
spaces
for
residents.
E
Next
slide,
please
a
little
more
detail
on
the
tree
preservation,
so
number
one
priority
is
to
try
and
preserve
this
tree,
and
all
precautions
will
be
taken
to
try
and
make
sure
that
that
happens.
However,
in
speaking
with
the
city's
arborist,
as
well
as
the
arborist
that
prepared
the
tree
preservation
plan,
giving
the
existing
paving
in
the
area
and
proximity
to
demolition,
that
would
have
to
happen
to
redevelop
the
site,
as
well
as
the
installation
of
services
like
cutting
and
capping
and
other
site
constraints.
E
It's
likely
that
the
tree,
the
preservation
of
the
tree,
may
not
be
feasible
just
because
of
how
shallow
the
root
system
is,
and
given
the
scale
of
paving
in
the
area
so
understood
that
securities
will
be
taken
and
compensation
will
be
required
if,
even
after
all,
precautions
taken
the
tree
would
if
the
tree
is
not
able
to
survive
the
renovation
and
then
a
higher
order
of
landscaping
will
be
required
along
rideau
street,
as
well
as
the
compensation
to
help
make
up
for
the
potential
loss
of
the
tree.
E
If
that
happens,
given
just
given
the
site
conditions
and
what
we've
heard
from
the
arborist,
it
may
may
be
a
sad
reality
that
the
tree
may
not
survive
any
type
of
renovation
on
the
site.
Next
slide,
please.
E
So.
In
summary,
we
do
believe
that
this
proposed
development
is
consistent
with
the
policies
of
the
provincial
policy
statement,
conforms
to
the
intent
of
the
op
and
is
compatible
with
surrounding
land
uses
next
slide,
please.
D
Do
you,
mr
chair,
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
application
at
hand
here
has
has
received
six
pieces
of
correspondence
from
five
different
individuals,
and
I
also
would
like
to
say
that
notice
was
given
in
accordance
with
the
planning
act
through
newspaper
signage,
signage
on
our
newspaper
notice,
signage
on
site
and
notice
through
mailing
and,
of
course,
always
available
on
dash
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Excellent,
thank
you
so
for
those
of
you
just
tuning
in
we're
in
a
public
meeting
concerning
the
property
just
presented,
what
will
happen
is
myself
and
counselor?
Osanic
will
have
opportunity
to
ask
questions
to
the
applicant.
They
will
respond
as
the
questions
come
in
then,
when
we
go
to
questions
for
the
public.
Each
member
of
the
public
will
have
five
minutes
to
ask
questions
or
make
comments.
C
All
questions
will
be
tabulated
by
the
proponent
and
then
miss
ducky
or
perhaps
the
applicant
himself
will
be
able
to
respond
on
mass.
So
that's
how
it's
going
to
happen.
There'll
be
a
back
and
forth
with
committee,
then
to
the
public
and
then
after
the
public
have
asked
their
questions
and
have
them
answered.
Then
we'll
go
back
to
so
that's
the
the
general
flow
of
where
we're
headed
so
councilor
sanik.
I'm
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
you're
the
other
committee
member
here
tonight.
Would
you
like
to
start.
F
I
guess
it's
a
good
thing,
mr
chair.
I
have
some
questions
the
two
of
us.
So,
okay,
thanks
for
the
presentation
for
the
four
parking
spots
when
there's
two
parking
spots
on
rideau
street,
how
does
that
work
like?
So
that
means
that
the
the
owner
of
this
new
building
is
gonna,
be
paying
for
on-site
like
for
that
on-site
parking
permit.
I
thought
all
of
rito
street
to
park
on
rito
street.
You
needed
that
80
per
month,
on-street
parking
permit.
E
Okay,
sure,
yes,
so
three,
mr
chair,
so
sorry
I
think
maybe
a
little
miscommunication
there.
Parking
is
not
proposed
directly
on
redo,
but
it's
accessed
off
of
so
the
cars
would
pull
in
off
of
rito
into
a
parking
area
on
the
subject
property.
So
there's
two
spaces
off
of
rito.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
the
other,
because
you're
reducing
it
from
seven
to
four
is
that
right,
so
where's,
the
other,
so
there
the
other
two
spaces
are
accessed
off.
The
raglan.
Is
that
right.
E
Yes,
so
they're
located
in
behind
the
property
at
five
raglan
road,
and
then
the
intention
is
that
the
property
is
zoned
as
one
and
there
will
be
a
reciprocal
agreement
so
that
way
parking's
available.
If,
if
it's,
like
least
if
the
space
is
leased
by
a
tenant
of
the
six
plex,
they
can
park
behind
five
raglan
and
vice
versa,
as
needed.
E
F
Thank
you
and
then
the
time
I
saw
the
width
right
was
I'm
2.7
and
you're
proposing
2.6,
but
it
looked
like
the
length.
I
don't
have
a
report
in
front
of
me
because
I
don't
have
two
screens
tonight.
The
length
was
going
from
something
down
to
5.2
meters
was
it
so
I
just
went
for
a
shrinkage
in
length.
Obviously
it
can't
be
a
pickup
truck
to
go
into
those
spots.
So
do
you
know
what
type
of
cars
5.2
meter
long
parking
spot
could
hold
like?
F
Could
it
hold
on
like
a
a
subaru,
impreza
hatchback
right,
or
is
that
considered
too
long
like?
What
are
we
talking
about
a
little
toyota
tercel?
Only
you
know.
Are
we
talking
like
a
smart
car?
What
type
of
cars
could
actually
park
in
5.2
meters?
Yes,.
E
So
I
don't
know
if
we
can
pull
up
the
site
plan.
I'll
just
know
for
this
one,
just
given
the
where
the
property
falls
in
the
right
of
way
of
the
road.
So
we
did
not
do
like
an
analysis,
this
one's
pretty
typical
and
would
fit
most
compact
cars
or
like
sort
of
a
standard
car,
like
you
said,
not
an
suv
or
pickup
truck,
but
this
property,
because
of
there's
quite
a
large
like
right-of-way
in
between.
E
So
although
it's
a
parking
space
of
5.2
meters
on
the
property
and
there's
still
quite
a
bit
of
space
before
it
hits
the
sidewalk
and
the
road
it
can
be
shown
on
the
street
view
as
well.
So,
although
proposed
to
be
5.2,
there
is
room
for
sort
of
the
full
5.6
like
in
the
gravel
area,
without
going.
G
E
F
Okay-
and
I
am
familiar
with
the
site
because
well
right
now
with
covet
I'm
working
from
home,
but
I
work
right
around
the
corner
for
the
last
20
years
to
have
from
this
site.
I
know
some
of
the
people
that
just
to
say
hi
to
atlanta
walking
by
and
so
for
the
tenants
right
now
that
we're
at
five
or
is
it
five
raglan
and
178
rito
street
like?
Were
they
given
their
notice?
I
guess
I
can't.
I
don't
know
if
I
can
ask
that.
F
H
H
The
property
is
falling
apart
to
the
point
where
it's
uneconomical
to
repair
it,
it's
in
extreme
disrepair
and
the
only
reason
we
didn't
take
the
property
down
before
was
because
the
tenant
was
an
elderly
man
and
we
felt
that
if
we
displaced
him
he
would
lose
his
life
and
my
father,
who
was
also
named
earlier,
perhaps
by
mistake,
my
dad
and
I
had
decided
that
we
weren't
going
to
do
it,
then,
because
we
didn't
really
want
that
on
our
conscience.
H
H
I
F
H
F
Don't
want
to
put
it
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
that
comment.
So
thank
you,
mr
camden.
Thank
you.
So
I
guess
yeah.
I
also
know
that
trees
are
lacking
in
that
immediate
area
right.
I
do
know,
though,
that
I
think
it
was.
The
city
planted
two
trees
right
across
the
street
from
the
site
on
on
wrangling.
I
think
they
planted
it
was
it
last
fall.
F
You
know
last
fall
two
trees,
and
so
I
I
hope
that
one
tree
on
rideau
can
survive,
but
I
can
understand
too,
if
it's
not
going
to
because
of
the
construction,
but
just
as
long
as
a
replacement
tree
could
be
planted
there.
That
would
be
good
because
it
really
needs
some
trees
in
that
area.
Right,
yeah
so,
and
I
am
a
bit
concerned
about
the
lack
of
parking,
but
I
do
also
know
that
there's
a
bus
that
goes.
F
You
know
on
that
on
rangeland
every
day,
and
so
maybe
having
that
reduction
in
parking
isn't
a
problem
right
and
hopefully
it's
not
a
problem,
or
maybe
they
can
rent
a
spot
to
park
it
on
the
road.
If
the
tenants
have
more
than
four
cars
or
rent
a
spot,
maybe
at
the
city
parking
lot
at
rideau
crest,
so
maybe
that's
not
a
problem
either.
I
just
know
that
parking
is
really
tight,
especially
when
everyone
is
back
to
work
downtown
like
in
those
downtown
buildings
at
placed
arms
on
wellington.
F
C
D
Do
you,
mr
chair,
I
can
comment
that,
according
to
our
park,
our
parking
services
department
here
that
three
spaces
are
permitted
to
be
applied
for
for
multi-residential
buildings
such
as
this
one,
so
that
would
not,
of
course,
accommodate
parking
on
site,
but
it
does
provide
a
bit
of
flexibility
in
case
there
are
more
tenants
in
the
property
who
are
wishing
to
have
a
proper
space
on
one
of
the
related
streets.
Thank
you.
C
J
Okay,
okay,
now
I
can
say
I
do
the
so
I'm
sorry,
I
missed
the
front
of
the
meeting,
basically
a
general
sort
of
technological
breakdown,
something
like
concert
highly
experienced
last
night.
Only.
He
and
I
both
had
it
at
the
same
time.
So
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
so
we'll
have
to
check
in
with
ig
at
some
point.
So
my
questions
are
this:
it
talks
about
the
3.5
story,
six
unit,
building
with
nine
or
ten
ten
bedrooms
dunn's.
The
new
policy
and
bedroom
limits
affect
this
application.
D
I
can
I
can
address
up
to
you,
mr
chair,
just
a
clarification
there.
Counselor
hutchinson
are
you
referring
to
the
second
residential
units
policies
that
set
a
maximum
bedroom
limit
that
was
recently
appealed.
J
D
So
in
this
case,
because
this
is
a
multi-residential
building,
it
would
not
apply
in
this
case,
however,
for
the
one
unit
building
itself,
because
it
is
a
one-
is
a
single-family
residential
property
when
the
appeal
period
is
up
that
that
use
will
be
subject
to
a
maximum
of
eight
bedrooms
for
that
long
area.
To
my
knowledge,
thank
you.
D
J
Okay,
so
is
an
apartment
building
allowed
under
the
current
zoning.
E
J
Okay,
the
so
it
talks
about
re-zoning,
the
two
properties,
three
and
five
raglan,
and
so
why
is
since
five
ranking
remains
more
or
less
the
same?
Why
is
this
necessary
for
development
purposes.
E
3D,
mr
chair,
so
the
way
the
property
currently
functions.
It's
like
fairly
functions
as
one
site
like
there's
parking
in
the
back
and
the
buildings
are
they're
separated,
but
are
there's
zero
meters
of
separation
between
them
so
in
order
to
accommodate
higher
quality
amenity
space
and
parking,
it's
necessary
to
treat
the
property
as
a
whole,
and
it
allows
for
some
efficiencies
in
terms
of
sharing
a
bicycle
parking
location
and
sharing
like
outdoor
garbage
storage.
J
Okay,
just
so,
I
understand
entirely
the
there's
two
still
two
parcels:
two
two
lots,
but
they're
being
both
zoned.
At
the
same
time,.
E
Yes,
I
believe
so
I
think
the
the
intention
of
this
like
through
this
redevelopment,
is
to
try
and
keep
the
existing
house
at
five
raglan,
it's
in
good
condition
and
then
looking
to
intensify
the
what
will
be
vacant
parcel
at
178,
rito
and
then
making
space
for
parking
and
then
yeah
finding
efficiencies
to
share
bicycle
parking
and
garbage.
J
So
in
terms
of
density,
the
density
goes
up
and
in
terms
of
how
many
bedrooms
are
there
on
this
178
rito
street
three
raglan
road.
E
Currently
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
so
there's
currently
four
bedrooms
in
that
side
and
then
four
in
five
ragland
and
then
10
are
proposed
through
the
new
application
in
the
six
plex.
E
J
J
Okay,
that's
what
I
couldn't
quite
track:
okay!
So,
okay,
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
C
K
K
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I'm
a
colleague
of
emma's,
and
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
on
one
of
these
counselor
hutchinson's
questions
about
the
properties
and,
as
emma
addressed
the
question,
we
are
zoning,
the
properties
as
one
but
part
of
the
reason
they
will
remain
as
two
separate
parcels
is
because
they
each
have
individual
services
and,
as
per
the
utilities,
kingston
bylaw.
You
can
only
have
one
connection
per
lot,
so
I
would
say
ordinarily,
we
would
probably
merge
the
parcels
and
then
it
would
make
everything
a
little
bit
more
straightforward.
K
But
in
order
to
keep
the
separate
connection,
the
existing
connection
and
then
have
a
new
connection
for
the
the
proposed
dwelling,
they
will
stay
as
two
separate
lots
legally,
but
essentially
the
site
will
function
as
one
and
operate
as
well.
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chair.
So
at
this
time
we
currently
have
eight
members
of
the
public
with
us.
What
I'll
do
is
I'll
ask
I'll?
Let
them
know
that
at
this
time,
if
they'd
like
to
participate,
if
they
have
any
questions
or
would
like
to
make
some
comments
on
the
file,
we
will
require
you
to
use
the
raise
hand
function
in
zoom.
This
can
be
located
at
the
center
of
your
screen
by
moving
the
mouse
over
the
zoom
window,
and
it's
right
here.
A
I
do
see
that
we
have
at
least
one
hand
up
here,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
pierre
poufal
if
he
would
like
to
unmute
himself
to
speak
to
the
committee
perfect.
C
I'll
just
quickly
interject
sorry,
mr
poophole,
please
state
your
full
name
and
address
just
for
the
records
and
a
reminder
that
you'll
have
five
minutes
and
then
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak
after
you
will
speak
after
you
until
we've
exhausted
that
list
and
then
miss
stucky
and
miss
wartman
will
have
an
opportunity
to
reply
to
your
comments
or
questions.
So
that's
the
little
procedure
that
we're
following
here.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
pierre
pewfall
and
I
reside
at
17
raglan
road.
I
just
want
to
thank
emma
for
that
that
presentation
it
was
really
informative.
I
think
the
the
plans
look
nice.
I
think
the
architectural
elements
really
would
accent
the
neighborhood.
My
question
really
isn't
so
much
a
question
other
than
a
comment
and
probably
a
concern
with
the
reduction
of
parking
spots
in
an
area.
That's
already
fairly
congested
with
parking
issues,
especially
in
non-coveted
times.
G
I
think
that's
already
been
spoken
to
and
just
as
a
as
a
resident
in
the
neighborhood,
with
ritu
street
home
right
down
the
street
from
us.
That
also
puts
a
lot
of
parking
pressure
on
this
block
in
raglan
and
and
so
I'm
just.
I
think
it's
more
of
a
comment
really.
I
mean
I
know
you've
already
addressed
it,
but
I
just
think
it's
really
important
to
consider
that
parking
issue
moving
forward,
especially
with
the
reduction
in
spots.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Mr
fischer,
I
don't
see
any
hands,
so
perhaps
we
could
do
a
final
call
if
there's
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
current
file.
If
you
could,
please
raise
your
hand
and
zoom
now
so
that
we
may
call
on
you-
and
I
do
have
another
hand
mr
price
chair,
so
this
is
christy
pettingell
ask
her
to
mute
herself.
Please
hi.
There.
L
Just
again,
I
think
my
concerns
are
along
the
same
lines
of
what
other
people
have
spoken
about
in
terms
of
parking.
So
I
live
right
at
the
corner
of
raglan
and
baguette,
which
is
just
a
few
houses
down
from
where
this
is
proposed
to
be
built,
and
this
parking
on
this
stretch
is
very
challenging
and
most
families
in
this
area
either
don't
have
parking
or
have
like
a
single
vehicle
parking
spot
and
so
to
have
family
or
friends
over.
L
It's
challenging
we're
also
competing
with
employees
from
radio
crest
that
use
our
parking
and
winter
time
becomes
a
challenge
as
well.
So
I
think,
just
in
again
speaking
to
neighbors,
that
seems
to
be
like
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
is
just
parking,
and
I
know
I've
done
some
research
in
terms
of
what
the
new
parking
proposals
are,
but
I
still
just
think
knowing
the
number
of
bedrooms
and
tenants
that
are
likely
to
be
there,
I
have
a
feeling,
there's
gonna,
be
a
huge
void
in
that
parking.
L
So
that's
that's
of
concern
and
then
I
think
also
just
knowing
that
we
just
we
want
to
make
sure
in
this
neighborhood
that
it
does
fit
in
and
the
height
and
setbacks
are
a
little
bit
scary
to
hear
so
we
just
want
to.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
point
up
anyway.
That's
just
a
concern
overall.
C
A
Oh,
I
apologize
mr
feister.
I
do
see
that
mr
cannon
is
is
unmuted,
so
perhaps
he
if,
if
you
would
allow
the
applicant
to
speak
as
a
member
of
the
public.
A
H
My
apologies,
I
didn't
know
how
to
raise
my
hand
the
so
I
totally
understand
where
people
are
coming
from,
as
it
relates
to
the
parking
questions.
I
do
own
another
property
that
is
very
very
very
similar
to
this
and
it's
on
pine
street.
H
It
was
a
new
constructed,
newly
constructed
six
plex
and
the
units
range
from
one
bedrooms
to
four
bedrooms.
Mostly
two
and
three
bedrooms
thoughts
were
that
when
I
built
that
site,
I
was
going
to
have
parking
issues
and
I
have
a
parking
space
surplus
which
I
thought
was
strange.
I
have
people
in
the
neighborhood
who
have
knocked
on
my
door
and
said:
can
we
use
your
parking,
I'm
very,
very
surprised
at
the
number
of
people
who
don't
need
parking.
H
I've
owned
the
four
bedroom
house
for
probably
15
year,
13
or
14
years,
and
I've
only
had
like
two
instances
where
people
have
had
parking.
I've
had
military
people
there.
I've
had
hot
people
from
the
hospital.
H
I
I
myself
have
been
quite
surprised
that
I
haven't
necessarily
needed
the
parking
and
that
I
have
chosen
to
rent
some
of
the
parking
spaces
that
they
have
on
very
similar
buildings,
and
I
would
invite
anybody
who
wishes
to
go
to
see
my
unit
at
pine
street
at
the
corner
of
pine
and
division.
There's
a
six
unit
building
it
it.
You
can't
miss
it.
H
If
you
do
want
to
talk
to
one
of
the
tenants
or
you
see
somebody
there
feel
free
to
say,
you
know
who
you
are
and
ask
them
a
question
in
the
spirit
of
full
transparency
and
just
ask
them,
because
I
think
that
they'll
give
you
a
very
positive
response
that
that
building
has
has
been
positive
for
the
neighborhood.
It
fits
into
the
neighborhood
and
the
people
who
live
in
them
are
happy
and
good
people
in
the
community.
H
So
I
think
that
I
just
like
to
throw
that
out
there,
because,
obviously
something
new
catches,
people
off
guard.
I
totally
understand
that,
but
this
is,
in
my
opinion,
going
to
be
one
of
my
trophy
properties.
I
want
to
make
it
a
high
quality,
beautiful
building
that
people
in
the
neighborhood
are
proud
of.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind.
K
I'll,
just
chime
in
yeah,
I
think
adam
as
the
property
owner
and
based
on
his
experience,
has
sort
of
addressed
the
parking
matter.
But
I
guess
from
a
more
technical
perspective,
we
we
did
do
has
required
a
parking
study
that
the
traffic
engineers
looked
at
the
supply
and
considered
the
other
factors.
K
K
It
was
nice
to
hear
that
the
design
was
generally
well
received
and
yes,
as
with
anything
in
terms
of
heightened
setbacks,
I
it's
always
hard
to
sort
of
see
it
see
it
on
paper
and
then
try
and
visualize
what
it's
going
to
look
like
on
the
street,
but
based
on
our
experience,
we
do
think
it
is
compatible
and,
as
adam
stressed,
will
enhance,
enhance
that
quarter
and
actually
provide
a
really
nice
sort
of
urban
design
feature
at
the
corner
of
the
street
there.
K
C
A
C
J
Oh
thanks
very
much.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
one
one.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
with
the
staff
that
the
concerns
about
parking
by
the
neighborhood
commentators
is
well
justified.
I
know
the
area
quite
well
and
my
mother
lived
at
rita
crest
there
for
a
number
of
years,
and
I
had
to
find
parking
there
consistently.
J
So
that
should
be
taken
very
seriously
by
this,
the
planners
since
you're
cutting
the
amount
of
parking.
So
the
other
thing
is,
I
believe
I
saw
the
bicycle
storage.
J
E
Mechanisms
and
three,
mr
chair
and
the
exact
design
of
the
bicycle
storage
hasn't
been
finalized.
Yet
at
this
point,
but
I
do
believe
it
is
the
intention
to
make
sure
that
the
bicycle
storage
is
secure.
So
that
way
people
feel
comfortable
using
it
and
as
well.
Recognizing
too
that
it's
quite
popular
for
people
to
want
to
take
them
in
their
units,
but
would
like
to
provide
like
the
outdoor
option.
J
Right,
okay,
so
I'm
not
going
to
kid
around
the
chances
of.
If
it
doesn't
have
it,
this
place
will
get
stolen.
Okay!
You
will
yes,
yes,.
E
I
was
just
gonna
say
three
through
you,
mr
cherry.
Yes,
the
intention
is
that
the
outdoor
bike
parking
will
be
secured,
still
exploring
those
options,
as
we
work
to
finalize
the
proposal
and
that
can
definitely
be
addressed
through
a
site
plan.
D
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
what
emma
was
saying
earlier.
There
counselor
hutchinson,
where
it
is
a
requirement
in
our
zoning
bylaw
that
these
bicycle
parking
spaces
are
required
to
be
secured,
so
they
will
have
to
be
secured
in
order
to
achieve
approval.
So
do
not
do
not
worry
about
that
requirement.
That
is
accepted
and
expected.
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Perhaps
I
could
ask
if
mr
perrell
would
speak
to
that.
D
Do
you,
mr
chair,
absolutely
so
in
this
case,
because
the
due
to
the
amount
of
units
on
the
property
it
will
be
subject
to
site
plan
control
and
just
to
reiterate
to
counsel
the
hutchinson
site
plant
control
will
also
ensure
that
the
bicycle
parking
is
secured
and
that
the
design
is
well
vetted.
So
once
this
proposal
does
go
to
the
site
plan
control
stage,
there
will
be
finer
details
provided
and
will
be
available
on
our
dash
system.
If
anyone
is
interested
in
looking
or
providing
feedback.
Thank
you.
C
D
C
G
B
A
Mr
chair,
I
can
oh
there's
counselor
kylie
right
now,
so
we
should
be
good
to
go.
I
will
just
confirm
for
you
that
the
public
meeting
has
been
closed.
We
do
still
have
quorum
and
I
will
also
let
you
know
that
we
have
at
least
five
members
of
the
public
with
us
currently.
B
B
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
There
is
an
addendum,
which
I
always
forget
to
mention
so
so
we
will
call
the
question
on
approval
of
the
agenda.
All
those
in
favor
carried
confirmation
of
minutes.
We
have
two
sets
of
minutes
from
our
may
20th
and
may
27th
meeting.
B
Are
there
any
questions
or
issues
with
minutes,
seeing
none
we'll
put
them
together
and
have
a
mover
and
a
seconder
councillor
hutchison
to
move
councillor
kylie
to?
Second,
all,
those
in
favor
carried
disclosure
of
punary
interest,
seeing
none.
We
have
no
delegations,
we
have
no
briefings.
I
will
begin
with
a
brief
business
statement.
B
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
open
to
the
public.
The
city
has
initiated
a
new
process
in
which
members
of
the
public
will
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
for
up
to
five
minutes
on
comprehensive
reports
presented
before
the
planning
committee.
B
Those
wishing
to
provide
oral
comments
at
this
meeting
will
be
invited
to
do
so
if
a
person
or
public
body
would
otherwise
have
an
ability
to
appeal.
The
decision
of
the
council
of
the
corporation
of
the
city
of
kingston
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal,
but
that
person
or
public
body
does
not
make
oral
submissions
at
a
public
meeting
or
make
written
submissions
to
the
city
of
kingston
prior
to
the
bylaw
being
passed.
That
person
or
public
body
is
not
entitled
to
appeal
the
decision.
B
So
our
first
of
two,
I
believe
we
have
tonight,
is
concerning
1316
and
1318
princess
street,
and
it
it
does
have
a
recommendation
before
us,
hello,
megan,
roby
doe.
The
floor
is
yours.
M
Good
evening,
thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
my
name
is
megan
roberty,
I'm
a
planner
with
the
city
of
kingston.
This
is
a
comprehensive
report
and
recommendation
related
to
an
application
for
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
the
properties
municipally
known
as
1316
to
1318,
princess
street
and
parts
of
1330,
1334
and
1338
princess
street.
M
M
So
the
purpose
and
effect
of
the
application
is
to
rezone
the
subject:
lands
to
permit
the
development
of
a
three
building.
Three
building
pardon
me
a
multi-residential
development
with
parking
at
grade
next
slide.
Please,
the
subject:
lands
are
situated
on
the
south
side
of
princess
street,
between
hillandale
avenue
to
the
east
and
portsmouth
avenue
to
the
west.
The
surrounding
built
form
predominantly
consists
of
single
detached
dwellings,
low-rise
apartment
buildings
and
stand-alone
commercial
buildings
which
front
onto
princess
street.
M
M
M
Each
building
is
to
contain
a
mix
of
affordable
housing
options,
including
rent
gear
to
income
units
rented
at
60
percent
below
market
rental
and
units
at
80
below
market
rental,
as
well
as
units
rented
at
market
rates.
A
detailed
breakdown
of
unit
type
and
tenure
by
building
is
included
in
table
1
of
the
staff
report.
M
M
M
Next
slide,
please
so
as
responded
to
in
staff's
report,
six
pieces
of
written
correspondence
were
received
related
to
the
application.
Since
publishing
the
report,
four
additional
pieces
of
correspondence
have
been
received
from
three
different
individuals.
This
new
correspondence
has
been
reviewed
by
staff
and
has
been
addressed
by
the
revised
plans.
M
Comments
were
received
regarding
building
orientation
and
proximity
to
princess
street
to
mitigate
the
potential
for
adverse
effects
on
the
streetscape.
The
proposed
six-story
phase,
one
building
does
have
a
six-meter
setback
from
princess
street,
which
is
greater
than
those
that
are
typical
in
williamsville,
which
have
ranged
from
one
to
zero
meters,
and
it's
also
important
to
note
that
the
proposed
development
was
supported
by
a
noise
study
which
examined
the
impact
of
transportation
noise
sources.
M
That
would
be
an
adjacent
to
these
proposed
residential
units,
specifically
looking
at
acceptable
levels
of
noise
in
the
evening
hours,
in
accordance
with
provincial
regulations,
comments
received,
which
raised
concerns
with
the
potential
for
traffic
generation
as
well,
in
particular
along
hillandale
avenue.
M
The
traffic
levels
considered
for
the
analysis
included
in
the
submitted
traffic
traffic
impact
study
were
non-pandemic
levels
based
off
of
2018
and
2019
data,
as
well
as
to
account
for
growth.
Traffic
was
grown
by
one
percent
yearly
to
analyze
future
horizon
years,
for
which
the
report
concludes
that
the
site
is
considered
a
minor
traffic
generator
and
no
geometric
improvements
are
required
in
support
of
the
development
comments
and
concerns
were
received
regarding
the
ownership
of
the
hillandale
avenue
lands
and
the
process
associated
with
their
transfer.
M
Real
estate
staff
have
advised
that
the
city
is
the
owner
of
this
unopened
road
allowance
located
along
hillandale
avenue
back
in
2016.
The
city
followed
its
public
notice
policy
for
road
closures
by
giving
public
notice
of
its
intent
to
formally
stop
up
and
close
the
road
allowance
and
transfer
it
to
the
future
developer.
M
Finally,
in
regards
to
tree
preservation,
questions
were
raised
regarding
concerns
for
the
loss
of
existing
trees
within
the
hillendale
road
allowance
and
how
the
site
would
ultimately
be
landscaped.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
so.
Staff
have
recently
actually
received
the
state
plan
control
submissions
for
both
the
phase,
one
kfhc
building,
as
well
as
the
kingston
co-op
building,
which
include
both
proposed
street
preservation
and
landscape
plans,
and
so,
while
these
plans
are
still
very
much
subject
to
technical
review,
I
thought
it
might
be
helpful
to
share
them
in
a
preliminary
sense
this
evening.
M
Next
slide,
please
approximately
half
of
the
hillandale
portion
of
the
lands,
the
northern
portion
would
have
to
be
paved
to
provide
the
required
access
to
the
site,
but
the
southern
portion
would
remain
landscaped
with
new
vegetation
introduced
here.
As
you
can
see
on
the
proposed
landscape
plan,
the
applicant
is
currently
proposing
twice
as
many
new
trees
as
those
which
they
are
proposing
to
remove,
and
although,
of
course,
it
will
take
some
time
for
these
trees
to
grow
and
mature.
M
Next,
like
please,
the
proposed
low-density
residential
development
is
appropriate
and
adds
to
the
range
of
dwelling
unit
types
and
tenures
available
in
the
city
of
kingston.
A
recommendation
of
approval
is
before
the
committee
its
staff's
opinion,
that
the
application
for
zoning
bylaw
amendment
is
consistent
with
the
provincial
policy
statement
and
conforms
to
the
official
plan.
M
M
B
So
I
will
turn
now
to
members
of
the
committee
you're
more
than
welcome
to
ask
questions
of
staff
or
the
proponent,
and
when
we
get
to
the
motion
or
the
recommendation
stage,
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
make
broader
comments
so
who
would
like
to
speak
first.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
through
you,
I'm
just
concerning
the
trees
and
reading
the
letters
that
are
part
of
correspondence,
then
for
the
site
plan.
I
appreciate
that
more
trees
are
going
to
be
planted
on
the
site.
Can
we
request,
like
underground
water
sprinklers,
to
ensure
the
survival
of
those
trees?
That's
part
of
consideration
of
site
plan.
M
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
that's
certainly
a
consideration
that
we
can
take
to
the
applicant
through
the
technical
review
process
for
the
cyplan
control
applications
and
and
have
some
further
discussion
with
our
forestry
staff
as
well
to
get
their
input
in
terms
of
what
would
be
appropriate
for
the
long-term
maintenance
of
the
landscaping
works
on
the
site.
B
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
C
Related
to
that,
actually
there
is
a
comment.
I
believe,
miss
roberto,
that
five
or
three
five
trees
are
being
retained
between
the
property
and
hillandale.
Can
you
tell
us
how
many
are
coming
down
it?
I
don't
know
why
the
number
just
caught
my
attention
five
seem
to
be
very
few
in
relation
to
what's
actually
currently
there.
M
For
sure,
thank
you
through
mr
chair.
So
within
the
area
of
the
hillendale
road
allowance,
there
are
13
existing
trees,
four
of
which
are
noted
to
be
in
poor
condition
within
the
the
submitted
tree
inventory.
M
I
will
also
note
that
all
of
those
13
trees
that
are
existing
within
that
particular
area
along
the
hillendale
road
allowance
are
either
manitoba
maple
or
norway
maple,
and
these
are
actually
not
native
species
in
the
city
of
kingston.
The
norway
maple
in
particular,
is
is
listed
as
a
species.
That's
that's
not.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
get
the
term
right
here.
M
It's
on
the
restricted
species
list
just
want
to
make
sure
I
got
that
right
and
that's
as
a
result
of
its
tendency
to
dominate
the
canopy
so
actually
in
in
removing
some
of
these
trees
and
replacing
them
with
trees
that
are
on
the
recommended
tree
species
list.
It
provides
an
opportunity
to
more
positively
and
sustainably
provide
for
the
urban
canopy
within
the
city.
F
F
Can
we
also
ensure
that
they're
good
for
wildlife,
like
I
don't
really
want
to
see
ornamentals
right
that
might,
oh,
you
know,
provide
some
shade,
but
you
know
they're
not
providing
acorns,
or
you
know
like
good
food
for
wildlife,
because
we
are
tearing
down
a
forest,
even
though
this
is
just
a
little
contributory
woodland.
That's
been
there
for
100
years,
the
fact
that
it
has
been
there
for
a
hundred
years.
You
know,
even
though
it's
landlocked
by
roads
and
houses
all
around
it's
not
part
of
the
natural
corridor.
F
M
You
thank
you
through
you,
mr
chair.
That's
certainly
something
we
can
take
under
advisement,
as
is
our
typical
practice,
we'll
be
looking
for
trees
that
will
provide
over
the
long
term
as
they
mature,
comparable
canopy
coverage
to
those
that
exist
on
the
site.
So
certainly
that
will
be
a
consideration
through
the
technical
review
of
the
site
plan,
control,
application.
B
Seeing
none
I
will
now
before.
I
will
now
go
into
the
recommendation
stage.
We
won't
I'm
sorry,
we
won't
yet
move
or
second
it
to
give
the
public
an
opportunity
to
speak.
So,
yes,
clerk
elizabeth,
the
floor
is
yours.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
for
those
of
us
joining
us
this
evening.
This
is
now
an
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
speak
to
the
application.
So,
mr
chair,
I
do
see
that
we
have
two
hands
at
this
point,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
heather
bardell
if
she
would
like
to
unmute
herself.
N
N
It's
a
low
ball
number
compared
to
what
it
is
right
now
right.
As
of
the
march
break
numbers
2016,
because
you
didn't
mention
that
one
at
peak
time
there
were
58
cars
an
hour
going
south
63
north
this
week
on
one
day
between
7
40
and
8
40
in
the
morning,
which
I
would
call
peak
time,
there
were
132
cars
going
south
and
150
cars
going
north
and
the
traffic
numbers
that
we
looked
at
the
report.
There
was
absolutely
no
mention
of
cars.
Turning
left
from
hillandale
onto
princess
street,
there
are
cars.
N
Turning
left,
it's
not
easy,
but
it
happens.
The
numbers
in
the
report
are:
are
there
no
re?
They
do
not
bear
any
relation
to
reality,
particularly
we've
had
partly
because
of
the
trust
because
of
the
traffic
stoppage
at
portsmouth.
We've
had
buses
going
down,
we've
had
people
change
racing
down
the
street.
We
ten.
We
have
a
large
percent
of
number
of
cars
going
down
above
the
speed
limit.
We
have
cars,
breaking
the
sound,
the
sound
bylaws.
N
B
Thank
you,
miss
bardell.
I
should
have
mentioned
before
the
public.
Each
person
who
wishes
to
speak
is
given
five
minutes,
but
the
the
questions
are
done
collectively
at
the
end
of
the
public
session.
So
your
your
good
questions
will
be
answered,
but
at
the
end
of
this,
this
portion.
So
thank
you.
Who's.
Next
elizabeth.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Next,
on
the
list
is
elizabeth
mcdonald.
O
J
O
Was
very
happy
about
10
minutes
ago,
at
some
of
the
things
that
I've
listened
to,
so
basically
many
people
now
have
seen
hillandale
avenue.
This
is
great,
because
now
you
know
that
there's
a
green
space
with
trees
on
hillandale,
it's
about
the
only
one
in
the
neighborhood.
O
The
reason
why
people
more
people
have
seen
it,
unfortunately,
is
because
they're
backed
up
in
traffic
halfway
down
the
street
due
to
diversions
because
of
infrastructure,
princess
imports,
mouth
there's
so
much
that
can
be
done
about
that.
Nonetheless,
it
gives
the
residents
a
picture
of
what
extra
vehicular
traffic
looks
like
now.
It
is
a
reality
not
sort
of
an
esoteric
number.
O
There
are
large
trucks.
Very
large
trucks
panel
vans,
a
huge
variety
of
traffic
that
no
longer
goes
down
like
no
sorry.
This
is
what
happens
when
I
get
really
ticked.
That
normally
does
not
go
down
that
street.
O
O
I
want
to
be
clear
about
a
couple
of
things
which
actually
contradicts
my
previous
statement.
This
property
is
zoned.
O
I
believe
I've
provided
enough
documentation
for
you
committee
members
to
draw
your
own
conclusions.
No
one
would
consider
hillandale
avenue
arterial
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination.
Even
a
large
group
of
hobbits
would
have
a
hard
time,
seeing
that
the
proposal
puts
forth
that
this,
a
couple
of
things
that
are
are
key
in
my
mind.
One
is
that
the
proposed
zoning
does
not
represent
an
undesirable
precedent.
O
The
use
of
the
hillandale
land
currently
zoned
as
single-family
residential,
to
turn
a
50-foot
lot
into
a
multi-use
zoning
solely
for
the
purpose
of
introducing
large
numbers
of
traffic.
This,
in
fact,
has
implications
that
I
certainly
urge
you
to
consider.
O
O
B
O
It
is
quite
annoying
at
best
to
personify
the
trees,
as
a
certain
type
that
perhaps
people
think
are
unwelcome,
ignores
the
fact
that
there
are
apples,
butternuts
walnuts,
spruce,
trees,
all
in
this
area.
You
know
before
I
really
talk
myself
into
a
different
scene.
I
think
I'll
just
end
with
that
and
say.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
hard
work
and
to
city
staff.
They
did
in
fact
give
notice
to
stop
up
declare
surplus
and
dispose
of
for
sale.
O
That
is
a
matter
of
civic
record.
They
did
not
make
notice
to
transfer
to
a
future
developer,
but
rather
transfer
for
sale.
This
hillary
property
is
a
single
family,
residential
lot,
50
feet
wide
half
forested
and,
if
you're
lucky,
to
join
the
traffic
that
is
going
around
the
construction
on
princess
street.
O
B
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we
will
now
turn
back
to
our
planner
or
the
proponents
planner
to
address
those
questions
asked.
M
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
in
regards
to
ms
bardell's
questions.
I
will
defer
to
the
applicant's
traffic
consultant,
mr
abdenali,
who
is
on
the
call
this
evening,
but
in
advance
of
passing
it
over
to
him.
I
am
happy
to
address
miss
mcdonald's
comments.
Further,
we
did
consult
with
our
real
estate
staff
on
the
comments
she
had
provided
earlier
today
and
they've
advised
that
the
the
original
plan
of
subdivision
did
make
this
this
road
allowance
along
hillanda
avenue
a
road.
M
Real
estate
staff
have
confirmed
that
the
city
did
not
have
an
obligation
to
advertise
the
property
for
public
sale.
It
was
their
directive
in
part
to
identify
lands
for
the
development
of
affordable
housing,
as
has
been
done
in
this
case,
and
the
hillandale
portion
of
the
subject.
Lands
is
necessary
to
facilitate
and
support
appropriate
traffic
and
pedestrian
movement
to
this
proposed
development.
M
P
Thank
you
very
much
counselor
neil
well,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
question
and
and
for
raising
the
traffic
along
helen
deal
and
the
marsh
break.
Our
traffic
detail
is
typically
or
for
the
different
intersections
used,
have
been
collected
between
2016
and
2018.
P
I
apologize
in
2019
and
we
have
done
a
balancing
exercise
to
be
able
to
add
in
the
different
or
the
differences
between
the
different
intersections
and
add
these
as
additional
traffic
volumes
accessing
the
roadways,
although
it
might
have
not
necessarily
been
added
to
specifically
hillandale
or
the
balancing
between
the
intersections.
P
What
ends
up
happening
as
these
or
this
edition
traffic
gets
added
along
pencil
street,
which
minimizes
the
available
gaps
for
any
traffic
using
helendale.
We
have
actually
conducted
a
full
intersection,
signalization
warrant
exercise
for
all
of
the
studied
horizon
years,
and
we
have
concluded
that
a
signalization
is
not
warranted.
In
fact,
with
the
volumes
we
have
studied,
the
signalization
is
warranted
of
up
to
what
is
reaching
47
percent
off
roughly
of
the
threshold
requirements,
and
I
hope
this
answers
your
question.
But
generally
it
is
expected.
P
But
princess
street
is
quite
a
heavy
corridor
for
east-west
traffic,
and
the
unfortunate
port
is
that
it's
not
reaching
the
threshold
for
signalization.
At
the
same
time,
the
delays
typically
for
traffic
would
depend
on
what's
happening
at
the
nearby
intersections
when
drivers
are
able
to
get
a
gap
to
be
able
to
perform
the
movement
depending
on
the
intersection
to
the
east,
which
is
the
food
basics
intersection,
as
well
as
the
one
to
the
west
portsmouth
avenue
generally
as
well.
P
The
traffic
or
generated
by
the
development
is
assumed
to
be
a
minor
just
because
of
the
type
of
the
development
being
proposed,
and
although
it's
unspeakable
that
there
will
be
delays
likely
in
the
far
future,
but
the
these
delays
unless
we
reach
the
threshold
to
require
a
traffic
signal,
we
can't
introduce
a
signal
at
this
location,
and
currently
there
are
alternative
access
routes
as
well,
but
until
a
signal
is
warranted,
signalization
is
can
be
happening
at
this
location
and
one
thing
as
well
to
add,
and
there
are
potential
future
plans
in
the
for
future
along
princess
trees
are
currently
being
studied
in
the
city
potential.
P
There
is
potential
for
introduction
of
trans
infrastructure
that
infrastructure
may
require
signalization.
That
concludes
I
I
do
hope.
I
answered
your
question
and
please
feel
free
to.
Let
me
know
if
anything
is
not
clear
or
you
require
or
need
additional
clarification.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
mr
abdullah
nabi.
I
think
I
got
it
that
time.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
We
will
now
go
back
into
the
committee.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
ask
further
questions
or
make
comments
and
then
I'll
be
asking
for
a
mover
in
a
second
for
the
for
the
recommendations.
B
Thank
you
just
a
very
quick
question
regarding
traffic.
Again,
there
was
some
mention
of
sometimes
heavier
traffic
using
it
as
a
through
way
when
traffic
is
delayed
on
portsmouth
is.
B
Is
there
any
way
that
the
city
could
could
make
a
recommendation
that
would
minimize
or
discourage
that
kind
of
drive
drive
through
area,
and
that
would
be
part
of
site
plan?
I
would
believe,
I
believe,
wouldn't
it.
M
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair
I'll,
ask
if
mr
abdonali
or
as
well,
we
do
have
mr
semple,
the
director
of
transportation
services
with
us
this
evening.
So
if
he
has
anything
else
to
add
on
that
point,
please
do
feel
free.
Q
Q
Some
of
the
discussion
and
the
question
that
you
just
posed
as
it
relates
to
as
it
relates
to,
I
think,
traffic
and
traffic
usage
overall
in
the
neighborhood.
That
is
part
of
that's
part,
of
the
city's
responsibilities,
as
it
relates
to
neighborhoods
neighborhood.
B
I
I
appreciate
that
I'm
just
curious:
is
there
a
recommendation
or
something
that
could
be
done
about
the
periodic
use
of
that
street
when
portsmouth
is
backed
up.
Q
Through
through
you,
mr
chair,
I
think
some
of
the
conditions
that
we're
seeing
right
now
as
it
relates
use
of
hillandale
is,
is
really
a
condition
because
we
have
the
intersection
at
princess
and
portsmouth
closed
because
of
the
major
reconstruction
work,
that's
underway
by
utilities.
Q
B
Thank
you
and
I
will
thank
for
the
chair
back
thanks.
Thank
you
any
further
questions
or
comments,
seeing
none
if
we,
if
we
have
somebody
to
move
in
second,
the
recommendations,
councilor
hutchison
has
moved.
Is
there
a
seconder
councillor
osanic?
B
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
further
comments
or
questions
before
I
call
the
credit
called
motion
seeing
none,
I
will
call
the
question
all
those
in
favor.
B
B
I
The
floor
is
yours.
Thank
you
good
evening,
mr
chair,
my
name
is
I'm
a
planner
of
the
city
of
kingston.
This
is
a
comprehensive
report
for
an
one
amendment
through
zoning
bylaw
number,
eight,
four,
nine
nine,
a
public
meeting
was
held
in
respect
to
this
application
back
in
january
of
2021
next
slide.
I
I
It
has
an
area
of
approximately
850
square
meters
and
it
has
an
air
shape
and
is
about
16
or
60.5
meter
advantage
of
your
on
union
state
as
we
speak.
There
are
two
residential
units
on
the
side
and
the
the
car
accident
is
from
union
and
it's
to
the
west
of
the
existing
two
ruling
units
and
also
there's
a
1.5
wide
walkway
for
union
that
actually
allows
people
to
access
the
two
units.
I
Next
slightly
and
we
see
here,
we
have
two
portions
one
of
the
advantage
and
the
advantage
along
union
is
not
it's
not
going
to
change.
It's
gonna
be
the
same.
However,
the
backyard
which
is
shown
on
the
photo
below
is
where
the
four
parking
spaces
are
going
to
be
located,
and
some
of
the
amenity
spaces
will
also
be
located
in
what
is
now
the
backyard
next
slide.
I
There
will
be
four
bicycle
parking
storage
that
are
gonna
be
secured,
and
in
total
there
will
be
about
125
square
meters
of
amenity
space
between
the
palm
tree,
the
eastern
side
yard
and
the
backyard
next
slightly,
and
we
have
here
a
slide
showing
the
elevation
so
starting
from
the
east
elevation
to
the
south
elevation,
which
is
the
vantage
to
the
west
elevation
and
the
division
from
the
bank,
which
is
the
northern
one.
I
Overall.
Basically,
the
building
will
be
more
visually
appealing
compared
to
what
it
is
now,
and
this
will
be
accomplished
by
including
some
feature,
such
as
windows.
As
we
can
see
doors,
there
will
be
doors
on
the
west
side
and
also
the
reverse
cable.
On
the
west
side.
Here,
where
I
am
going
next
slide,
please.
I
I
So
we
received
some
comments
regarding
the
proposal.
These
comments
are
shown
on
the
slide
here.
In
response
to
these
comments,
a
new
cherry
is
being
proposed
in
the
frontier
and
also
secure
bicycle
parking
facility
is
proposed
on
the
website.
Other
comments
were
addressed
in
the
report.
Next
slightly.
I
So,
overall,
the
proposed
amendment
was
evaluated
against
all
the
applicable
policies.
I'm
talking
about
provincial
policies
and
municipal
policies,
and
it
didn't
says
you
that
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
and
conforms
to
all
the
applicable
policy,
and
for
this
agent
it
is
recommended
for
approval.
I
B
You
very
much
I
will
now
turn
to
the
oh
and
have
we
received
much
correspondence
or
inquiries.
I
see
that
you
noted
some
there,
but
have
there
been
any
recent
increase
in
correspondence.
I
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
can
confirm
that
we
still
have
at
least
one
member
of
the
public
with
us
this
evening,
so
perhaps
I
can
just
allow
them
the
opportunity.
If,
if
you
would
like
to
speak
to
this
application,
please
raise
your
hand
and
zoom
at
this
time.
Again,
that's
located
in
the
center
of
the
zoom
window.
When
you
move
your
mouse
over
it.
B
Councillor
hutchinson,
thank
you.
So
do
we
moved
and
seconded
any
further
comments
or
questions
regarding
this
recommendation?
B
Seeing
none
I'll
call
the
question
all
those
in
favor
and
that's
kerry.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
will
I
can
find
it.
B
Sorry
about
that,
I
mislead
the
piece
of
paper
here
we
go.
We
will
now
go
to
motions
which
there
are
none
notices
of
motion
again,
none
other
business,
seeing
none.
We
have
the
previous
correspondence
and.
A
No
problem,
mr
chair,
we
we
we
have
received
the
correspondence
both
on
the
agenda
as
well
as
the
addendum
and
the
date
of
the
next
meeting
is
going
to
be
wednesday
june
23rd
at
six
o'clock,
and
this
will
be
our
special
meeting.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
You
would
make
an
excellent
counselor.
I
appreciate
that
so
I
will
see
if
anybody
wishes
to
move
adjournment.
B
Yes,
counselor
sanic,
councillor,
hutchinson,
all
those
in
favor
that's
carried
and
thank
you
very
much
to
staff
and
the
public,
although
I
believe
there's
only
one
left.
So
thank
you.
Take
care.