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From YouTube: Kingston, Ontario - Planning Committee - May 26, 2022
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Planning Committee meeting from May 26, 2022. For full meeting agenda, please visit: https://bit.ly/3PJbN3P
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
vice
chair
and
through
you
welcome
everyone
to
this
evening's
planning
committee
meeting.
I
can
confirm
that
we
do
have
quorum
currently
absent
our
counselor
kylie
and
counselor
chappelle
joining
us
from
staff
are
tim
park
director
of
planning
services,
james
barr
manager
of
development
approvals,
janiece
grant
senior,
planner
ricardo,
peggy
planner.
We
also
have
blair
johnson
joining
us
as
host,
and
I
am
elizabeth
fawcett
committee
clerk
for
the
planning
committee.
A
Great
and
I'm
going
to
read
the
collection
notice,
the
the
meetings
tonight
being
held
or
the
meetings
being
held
tonight
are
public
meetings
under
the
planning
act,
notice
of
collection,
the
personal
information
collected
as
a
result
of
the
public
meetings
are
collected
under
the
authority
of
the
planning
act
and
will
be
used
to
assist
in
making
a
decision
on
this
matter.
Persons
speaking
at
the
meeting
are
requested
to
give
their
name
and
address
for
recording
in
the
minutes.
A
A
A
All
three
of
them
of
the
agenda
items
tonight
are
public
meeting
reports,
which
constitutes
the
first
portion
of
every
one
of
our
meetings.
So
the
first
portion
of
tonight's
meeting
is
to
present
planning
applications
in
a
public
forum.
As
detailed
in
the
public
meeting
rec
reports,
these
reports
do
not
contain
a
staff
recommendation
and
therefore
no
decisions
will
be
made
this
evening
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
underscore
that
that
no
decisions
are
being
made
tonight
following
presentations
by
the
applicant.
A
C
C
As
part
of
this
public
meeting
planning
staff
have
prepared
a
public
meeting
report
summarizing
the
proposal
and,
as
you've
stated,
there
are
no
recommendations
or
decisions
that
are
being
made
this
evening.
Regarding
this
report,
notice
was
given
in
accordance
with
the
planning
act,
as
detailed
in
the
report.
C
The
questions
asked
by
the
public
and
planning
committee,
along
with
any
written
submissions,
will
be
addressed
by
planning
staff
within
a
comprehensive
report.
After
the
technical
review
and
assessment
of
the
proposal
by
the
city
has
been
completed,
staff
will
bring
a
comprehensive
report
with
recommendations
back
to
planning
committee
at
a
future
date.
D
D
D
The
application
for
zoning
bile
amendment
is
to
rezone
the
subject:
property
from
two
site-specific
zones,
an
arterial
commercial
zone,
as
well
as
a
residential
zone
to
a
single
site-specific
residential
zone,
and
the
purpose
of
the
rezoning
is
to
enable
an
apartment
building,
as
well
as
seven
townhouse
blocks
within
the
site
and
be
a
private
condominium.
Road
and
condo
blocks
as
part
of
a
future
application.
D
So
the
subject
property
is
located
north
of
taylor.
Kid
boulevard
on
the
west
side
of
gardner's
road
image
shows
nearby
major
landmarks,
including
cataractway
center,
approximately
400
meters
to
the
northwest,
and
then
rio
can
center
to
the
south,
as
well
as
a
number
of
other
retail
plazas
along
the
gardner's
road
corridor
and
next
slide.
Please.
D
The
subject
property
is
about
two
and
a
half
hectares.
So
it's
a
large
property,
though,
though
very
long
narrow,
so
60
meters
of
frontage
on
gardner's
road
and
then
there's
a
stub
end
off
of
bingham
court
at
the
eastern
end
of
the
property,
which
also
provides
access
to
the
property,
so
that
road
was
built
out
as
part
of
that
subdivision
and
essentially
is
a
temporary
dead
end.
That
provides
a
connection
into
this
particular
lot,
and
I
already
described
the
surrounding
uses
so
I'll
skip
over
that
in
the
next
slide.
D
Please,
the
sites,
just
in
terms
of
context,
is
well
serviced
by
both
existing
roads,
primarily
gardner's
road
and
also
by
pedestrian
infrastructure
along
gardner's
road,
as
well
as
a
number
of
transit
routes.
There's
one
directly
in
front
of
the
site,
including
a
stop
in
front
of
the
site,
and
then,
of
course,
the
the
major
transit
hub
at
the
cataract
center
provides
access
to
a
number
of
routes.
That
would
take
a
a
rider
throughout
the
city.
D
D
The
10-year
is
proposed
to
be
condominium
in
this
in
this
particular
case.
Part
of
that
is
because
it
allows
for
the
creation
of
a
condo
road
through
the
site
and
private
maintenance
of
that
that
road,
as
well
as
common
park
and
amenity
areas,
parking
ratio
for
the
apartment
is
1.09
spaces
per
unit.
D
All
the
townhouse
blocks
have
their
own
kind
of
rear
yard,
amenity
area,
a
landscaped
open
space,
as
well
as
some
green
space
around
each
of
those
blocks,
and
then
the
apartment
building
has
its
own
amenity
courtyard,
as
well
as
a
separate
common
common
outdoor
area
with
a
clubhouse
and
a
pool
and
there's
also
normal
amenities
associated
with
apartment
building,
including
balconies,
terrace
and
then
internal
common
spaces.
Like
a
gym
library.
D
Cinema
movie
room
next
slide,
please
so
the
site
I've
broken
it
up
here
and
just
essentially
three
different
components:
just
to
explain
the
three
building
types.
So
the
primary
difference
is
apartment
building
which
is
on
the
left-hand
side
outlined
in
yellow
and
then
the
other
building
form
is
two
types
of
stacked
town
houses.
D
One
type:
that's
two
three
stories
tall
with
two
units
per
stack:
if
you
will
and
then
the
other
type
is
which
is
outlined
in
blue,
is
a
three
and
a
half
story,
and
that
has
three
units
per
stack
so
similar
to
a
similar
development
that
was
recently
constructed
on
development
drive.
There's
some.
If
you've
driven
down
there
recently
you'll
see,
there's
a
new
stacked,
townhouse
development
near
the
western
edge
of
development
drive
just
outside
the
industrial
park.
Next
to
the
clinic
out
there
so
similar
development
to
that.
D
So
the
apartment
block
is
proposed
to
be
primarily
six
stories,
but
it
does
step
down
to
three
minimum
of
three
and
four
stories
at
the
northeast
corner,
where
it's
a
budding
the
residential
neighborhood
to
the
north.
So
this
is
to
provide
greater
or
greater
separation.
At
the
taller
building
heights
to
that
residential
neighborhood
and
to
provide
reduced
shadowing
in
that
area
as
well,
the
goal
was
to
not
have
shadowing
off-site
from
the
building
in
those
rare
yards
from
the
march
to
september
time
periods.
Through
the
summer.
D
The
development
has
primarily
within
the
apartment,
building,
there's
some
surface
parking,
primarily
envisioned
to
be
a
limited
number
of
visitor
parking
outside
in
the
front
yard,
and
then
there's
some
parking.
You
can
see
here
that's
accessed
just
off
the
private
or
the
private
road,
and
then
the
majority
of
the
parking
is
going
to
be
undergrounds
and
within
the
structure
in
a
portion
of
the
first
floor.
D
So
next
slide
please.
So
it
shows
the
ground
floor
so
there'll
be
some
residential
units
and
amenities
at
grade
near
the
front.
But
the
primary
use
of
the
ground
ground
floor
is
going
to
be
a
structured
parking
next
slide,
please
and
then
on
the
second
through
sixth
floors.
It's
residential
units
throughout
against
the
mix
of
studio
up
to
three
bedroom
units
is
anticipated
next
slide,
please.
D
So
this
image
just
shows
the
stepping
down
of
the
apartment
building
at
the
northeast
corner.
So
the
the
closest
the
apartment
building
is
to
the
neighborhood
to
the
north
is
seven
and
a
half
meters,
and
at
that
point
the
building's
been
stepped
down
to
three
stories,
which
is
similar
to
the
zoning
that
would
be
in
place
in
the
neighborhood
to
the
north.
In
terms
of
allowing
a
you
know,
two
and
a
half
three-story
townhouse
dwelling,
so
we're
trying
to
provide
a
similar
built
form
or
similar
built
form
height
at
that
point.
D
So
that's
certainly
in
terms
of
sensitive
surrounding
land
uses
to
the
south.
There's
a
automotive
use.
It's,
I
believe
it's
a
nissan
dealer
now
so
not
terribly
sensitive
in
terms
of
impacts
from
this
building
on
that
use
at
the
northeast
corner,
where
the
building
sorry
northwest
corner,
where
the
building
comes
close
to
the
north
property
line,
there's
a
commercial
plaza
so
again,
not
terribly
sensitive
in
terms
of
potential
impacts
on
that
use.
It's
really
at
this
northeast
corner.
Where
the?
U
comes
back
around
and
comes
close
to
that.
D
Neighborhood
is
where
we
wanted
to
make
sure
the
building
was
set
down
to
provide
some
some
greater
reduction
in
shadowing
impacts,
as
well
as
less
overlook
opportunities.
So
there
are
on
that
face
of
the
building
that
points
north
or
faces
north.
There
are
a
total
of
four
units
at
the
second
and
third
floor
that
would
face
that
way.
So
four
units
eight
windows
essentially
facing
north
at
that
point
towards
that
neighborhood
the
ground
floor,
is
a
it's
just:
an
enclosed
parking
structure
so
no
uses
on
the
ground
floor.
D
D
So
this
is
the
one
that's
similar
to
what
is
on
development
drive
recently
completed
so
there's
a
unit
in
the
basement
and
then
a
unit
on
the
main
floor
and
then
the
unit
on
the
second
and
third
floors
or
third
and
fourth
levels.
Sorry,
and
so
these
have
porches
around
the
front
and
as
well
as
in
the
back,
so
each
of
the
units
would
have
either
amenity
space
on
the
porches
or
in
the
rear
yards
there's.
Also
a
small
rooftop
amenity
area
for
the
upper
units.
D
Next
slide,
please,
and
then
this
is
the
second
type
of
stacked
townhouse
unit.
This
is
a
two
units,
stacked
townhouse,
so
there's
a
unit
on
the
main
and
second
floor
and
then
a
unit
on
the
upper
floor
and
there's
a
garage
for
each
of
the
two
units
in
each
of
the
stacks.
If
you
will
and
then
there's
also
a
theoretically
an
overflow
or
tandem
parking
space
in
a
driveway
in
front
of
each
of
those
garages,
next
sliders,
so
number
of
supporting
studies
were
completed
as
part
of
the
complete
zoning
bio
amendment
application.
D
Please
so
we
assess
the
application
with
respect
to
the
pps
and,
as
is
a
under
utilized
urban
well-urban,
well-serviced
urban
lot
on
a
major
road
at
the
edge
of
a
residential
neighborhood,
and
that
makes
use
of
existing
land
and
resources
and
is
compatible
with
adjacent
uses.
We
are
the
opinion
that
does
meet
the
test
and
be
consistent
with
the
provincial
policy
statement
and
next
slide.
Please,
with
respect
to
the
official
plan,
it's
a
split
designated
lot.
D
The
arterio
commercial
designation
does
permit
high
density
residential
where
the
site
is
underutilized
and
where
other
tests
are
met
in
terms
of
access
to
park,
space
adjacency
to
existing
neighborhoods
et
cetera.
So
the
you
know
our
view,
the
applicant
or
the
application
does
meet
that
those
tests
are
residential
within
their
to
your
commercial
designation.
So
an
official
plan
amendment's
not
required
in
this
case
next
slide,
please.
D
Next
slide,
please
and
then
in
terms
of
other
tests.
In
the
official
plan
with
rejected
compatibility
mitigation
measures,
functional
needs,
intensification,
urban
design.
We
assessed
those
policies
as
well
and
the
site,
through
various
measures,
implements
mitigation
measures
where
necessary
to
reduce
or
manage
impacts
off
sites,
particularly
for
the
residential
adjacent
to
the
north.
D
It
also
satisfies
the
other
residential
intensification
policies
of
the
official
plan.
So
in
conclusion,
the
zoning
bio
amendment,
our
opinion,
conforms
to
the
official
plan
next
slide,
please
so
zoning
is
currently,
as
I
said,
before,
split
zones,
primarily
the
arterial,
commercial
and
residential
there's.
Also,
a
small
portion
of
the
property
at
the
rear
that
you
can
see
is
a
little
bit
of
a
triangle
shape
next
to
the
where
it
says
os3
on
the
zoning
map.
So
that's
part
of
the
subject
property.
D
It's
currently
vegetated
trees,
other
undergrowth
there
it's
in
an
os
zone,
it's
the
same
as
the
matching
hydro
corridor
that
traverses
the
site
to
the
east,
so
that
area
is
proposed
to
remain
undisturbed.
The
existing
vegetation
would
remain
and
essentially
be
a
essentially
green
base
buffer
and
form
part
of
the
rear
yard
of
the
townhouses
on
the
eastern
side
of
the
site.
D
So
the
property
is
not
included
in
the
new
zoning
bylaw,
though
it
is
subject
to
a
h,
holding
zone
removal
requirement
which
would
be
met
through
this
application.
In
terms
of
the
supporting
studies
to
allow
development,
it's
anticipated
that,
if
approved
the
subject
site,
would
be
imported
into
the
new
zoning
bylaw
and
subject
to
one
of
the
new
urban
residential
zones,
potentially
urm
6.
D
So
that's
something
that
we
expect
would
come
out
as
part
of
the
zoning
review
once
the
new
zoning
bylaw
comes
into
comes
into
effect
after
the
appeal
period.
There
is
just
on
that
note.
There
is
a
couple
of
zones
that
match
very
closely
to
what's
being
proposed
in
terms
of
minimum
and
maximum
performance
provisions
for
height
density
setbacks,
etc.
D
Next
slide,
please.
So
there
are
a
number
of
areas
where
relief
is
required
and,
and
part
of
that
is
really
just
to
address
the
need
to
add
a
townhouse
as
a
permitted
use
in
the
zone.
It's
really
a
higher
density
zone
that
would
allow
apartment
buildings
and
doesn't
include
stacked
townhouses
as
a
as
a
type
of
use
and
indeed
stacked
town
houses
are
fairly
modern,
new
type
of
built
form
that
isn't
permitted
as
it
right
in
any
zone.
D
There
are
modest
reductions
required
for
some
of
the
the
north
side
yard.
The
most
notable
one,
I
would
say,
is
next
to
the
residential
neighborhood
to
the
south.
The
side
yard
between
the
apartment
building
and
the
residential
neighborhood
to
the
south
is
being
is
proposed
to
be
reduced,
though
that
really
is
a
primarily
a
function
of
the
fact
that
the
side
yard's
just
to
be
set
back
based
on
the
half
height
of
the
building
and
because
we're
stepping
the
building
down.
At
that
point
where
it's
closest.
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chair
and
through
you.
I
will
note
that
we
do
have
20
members
of
the
public
with
us
at
this
time.
So
if
there's
anyone
wishing
to
speak
to
the
current
application,
you
will
need
to
raise
your
hand
and
zoom.
This
is
located
in
the
center
of
the
zoom
window.
When
you
move
your
mouse
over
the
screen
for
those
who
are
joining
us
via
phone,
you
will
need
to
press
star
9
in
order
to
raise
your
hand
to
indicate
that
you
would
like
to
speak.
A
And
just
while
you're
doing
that,
just
a
reminder
to
folks
as
well
that
we're
here
to
speak
about
land
use
and
not
about
people
planning.
So
although
we
can
talk
about
the
buildings,
the
compatibility,
the
density
of
those
kinds
of
of
issues,
we
we
don't
talk
ab
in
this
file
or
other
files
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
tonight
about
the
people
or
the
tenants
who
will
be
inhabiting
the
buildings
when
they're
done,
and
I
will
call
you
out
of
order.
B
We
do
mr
vice
chair
just
before
we
go
to
our
first
speaker,
just
a
note
for
those
who
are
participating
that
we
will
collect
all
of
the
comments
at
once.
You
will
have
five
minutes
to
present
those
comments
and
then
the
applicant
will
provide
a
response
once
we've
received
all
of
the
comments
from
the
members
of
the
public,
so
the
first
to
speak,
mr
vice
chair,
is
victoria
dyson.
A
E
Yes,
thank
you,
victoria
dyson
and
I
live
on
actually
just
workforce,
so
my
backyard
is
looking
onto
this.
This
property,
I'm
at
566,
whistler
terrace.
So
I
have
two
questions.
One
question
is:
when
is
the
proposed
start
date
and
like?
How
long
is
this
intended
to
take?
The
second
question
I
have
too
is:
is
there
going
to
be
any
sort
of
trees
planted
between
our
back
fences
and
the
proposed
buildings
behind
us.
A
F
1037
mccallum
lane
in
sydenham
previously
a
resident
of
kingston,
and
I
worked
in
kingston,
I'm
calling
to
make
an
appeal
on
behalf
of
all
the
bowlers
who
live
in
kingston,
sydenham,
napanee
and
many
areas
around
this
to
try
and
retain
this
bowling
alley.
There's
only
two
ten
pin
bowling
alleys
in
kingston
and
this
one
is
of
course
the
very
best
of
the
two
it's
used
also
by
the
schools.
F
They
bring
their
students
there
for
their
recreation
and
now
nowadays,
there's
so
much
more
interest
in
increased
recreation,
and
so
more
and
more
people
are
more
interested
in
getting
to
bowl
or
other
activities
as
well.
It
could
be
an
advantage
to
all
these
new
residents
that
are
going
to
be
in
the
apartments
who
may
also
like
to
use
this
champion
bowling
alley.
F
D
So
thank
you
to
those
who
spoke
so
with
respect
to
the
question
of
from
ms
dyson
in
terms
of
proposed
start
date,
start
date
and
construction
length.
I
would
anticipate
that
the
approvals
process
for
this
should
eventually
be
approved.
I
would
certainly
take
12
12
plus
months
from
today
to
get
through
zoning
bio
amendment,
site
plan,
approval,
final
plan,
a
condo
and
then
construction
project
of
this
nature
is
probably
18
18
months
thereabouts.
D
That's
not
an
area
that's
to
be
disturbed
for
as
part
of
the
development,
and
then
we
would
be
intending
on
replanting
or
planting
more
trees.
As
part
of
the
redevelopment
itself,
there's
about
a
landscaped
open
space
in
the
property
is
just
over
40
percent.
So
there's
quite
a
bit
of
green
space.
That's
going
to
be,
I
guess,
created
on
the
site,
which
is
primarily
parking
and
gravel.
Currently
so
certainly,
hopefully
there
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
add
more
greenery
to
the
site
and
then
any
fencing
that
doesn't
exist.
D
I
did
speak
with
the
owner
about
this
because
we
had
seen
this
comment
come
through
and
the
intention
is
to
leave
the
building
up
and
operating
as
a
bowling
alley
until
demolition
when
development
is
imminent.
So
the
tension
isn't
that
the
bowling
alley
would
be
would
be
demolished
prematurely
or
or
before
it
needs
to
be
so
it's
at
some,
some
constellation
or,
if
there's
alternative
locations
that
they
might
move
to,
it
maybe
gives
them
some
time
to
to
look
for
those
alternate
locations
in
the
meantime,.
G
D
D
G
Yeah
just
to
follow
up
with
that,
if
it's
not
fenced,
then
what
usually
happens
is
that
the
homeowners
you
know
over
the
years
decide
that
it's
their
space
and
then
they
go
in
and
they
start
clearing
that
vegetation.
You
know
to
do
a
shed
and
there's
no
no
control
right.
There's
no
police
goes
that
goes
around
and
says
hey!
You
know
this
was
open
space,
so
I
for
staff
for
the
minutes.
D
Good
question,
and
if
I,
if
I
may
just
in
follow-up,
I
unders
I
understand
that
the
first
question
a
little
bit
better
in
terms
of
the
concern.
So
I
guess
what
might
prevent
a
future
owner
from
removing
the
vegetation
is
that
it
would
be
subject
to
site
plant
control
and
it
would
be
part
of
the
condominium
corporation
as
well,
so
the
vegetation
that's
there
now
would
be
shown
in
the
site
plan
agreement
as
being
retained.
So
it
wouldn't
be
the
same
as
if
it
were
entirely
private
backyard
that
somebody
would
have
total
control
over.
A
Members
of
the
public
are
only
allowed
to
speak
to
the
file
once,
however,
if
you
have
other
questions
or
concerns
or
issues,
you
can
include
them
in
correspondence
to
the
clerk,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
and
we
they
will
be
taken
into
consideration
by
the
applicant
and
by
our
our
own
planners,
all
right
so
seeing
no
other
questions,
then
I
will
call
this
public
meeting
to
a
close
and
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
one,
which
is
excuse
me.
I
just
gotta
go
down
to
it
now.
B
C
C
The
purpose
of
the
public
meeting
is
for
the
applicant
to
present
their
proposal
to
the
public
and
planning
committee
and
to
respond
to
questions
regarding
the
proposal
should
be
noted
again
that
no
recommendations
or
decisions
are
being
made
this
evening
regarding
this
report,
as
part
of
the
public
meeting
staff
have
prepared
a
public
meeting
report
summarizing.
The
proposal
which
has
been
made
available
notice
was
given
in
accordance
with
the
planning
act
as
detailed
in
that
report.
C
A
H
I
Yeah,
so
to
introduce
the
proposal.
This
is
a
proposed
residential
development
with
the
consolidation
of
two
lots.
The
two
lots
be
235
and
247
portsmouth
avenue
they
are
held
under
the
same
ownership
right
now,
so
they
are
concerned.
They
are
held
under
different
ownership
right
now,
so
they
are
not
consolidated
as
one.
But
again
it
is
two
number
companies
that
are
owned
by
the
same
individual.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
This
is
somewhat
of
an
odd-shaped
lot.
If
we
look
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen,
where
we
see
the
proposed
site
plan,
we
see
a
kind
of
I
I
want
to
call
it
a
finger
that
possibly
is
extending
into
the
rear
portion
that
that
area
there
does
extend
into
the
established
residential
neighborhood
to
the
east.
I
There
is
no
proposal
being
offered
at
that
portion
right
there
today,
so
the
application
proposes
to
rezone
this
site
to
a
site-specific,
b3
zoning
bylaw
under
8499
and
a
site-specific
urm7
under
the
new
zoning
bylaw
2022-62,
so
to
quickly
review
the
the
highlights
of
the
proposal.
Portsmouth
is
a
collector
road
that
does
have
density
located
along
it
of
a
higher
nature
to
the
south.
I
We
have
the
medical
center
and
across
the
street
we
do
have
a
mixture
of
commercial
as
well
as
residential
uses,
as
well
as
further
to
the
west,
some
higher
rise
residential
rental
apartment
buildings.
The
proposal
is
for
a
four-story
rental
dwelling
with
63
units.
In
total,
those
units
would
be
broken
down
to
be
12
bachelor
units,
11
1
bedroom
units,
27
2
bedroom
units
and
13
3
bedroom
units.
Those
units
are
appropriated
within
those
four
floors
as
well
as
there
are
units
proposed
within
the
basement,
which
is
largely
located
on
the
interior
courtyard.
I
I
The
appropriateness
of
this
development,
in
my
opinion,
from
a
planning
perspective,
is
the
location
of
it
along
portsmouth
avenue,
the
appropriate
setbacks
to
the
residential
rear
yard
to
the
north,
as
well
as
the
appropriate
residential
setbacks
to
the
properties
to
the
east.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
I
So
if
we
see
here
the
dwelling
located
to
the
north
actually
fronts
onto
dickens,
now
that
portion
there
has
a
rear
yard
setback
with
very
little
amenity
space
that
faces
the
proposed
developments,
parking
area
which
is
located
on
the
north
side,
that
dwellings
large
the
the
larger
portion
of
that
dwellings.
Amenity
space
is
actually
located
on
what
would
be
considered
a
side
yard
that
wraps
around
the
adjacent
property
to
the
north
on
portsmouth
and
offers
that
amenity
space
on
portsmouth.
I
If
we
look
to
the
rear
again,
we
see
an
appropriate
separation
between
the
established
residential
to
the
rear
and
to
the
south.
That
is
the
institutional
building
that
is
located
there.
We
have
located
the
parking
along
that
north
portion
to
mitigate
any
impact
of
shadowing
or
overlook
into
the
residential
area
located
to
the
north.
I
Here
we
see
a
view
looking
from
the
south
again
looking
northwest
in
this
instance
again
the
appropriate
regard
and
separation
from
those
established
residential
dwellings
that
kind
of
finger
that
extends
out
there
really
limits
any
developability
which
again
works
that
helps
to
create
that
appropriate
separation.
Now,
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
please.
I
I
It
was
the
conclusion
that
25
parking
spaces
in
this
instance
is
appropriate,
given
the
location
and
the
intent
of
this
being
a
residential
rental
building
in
support
of
the
application,
an
arborist
report
was
submitted.
An
archaeological
assessment
was
submitted
as
well
as
a
draft
zoning
bylaw
amendment,
an
erosion,
sediment
and
control
plan,
a
functional
servicing
report,
as
well
as
a
noise
report,
a
planning
justification
as
well
as
pre
and
post
development,
drainage
plans,
as
well
as
site
servicing
and
the
aforementioned
transportation
impact
study.
I
B
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chair
and
through
you.
We
do
have
a
number
of
hands
up,
just
a
reminder
to
those
who
are
here
tonight.
If
you'd
like
to
speak
to
the
current
application,
we
do
require
you
to
raise
your
hand
in
zoom
by
using
the
raise
hand,
function
in
the
center
of
the
zoom
window.
This
will
place
you
on
a
speakers
list.
So,
mr
vice
chair,
we're
going
to
start
with
michael
jacob.
A
J
J
J
We,
we
pay
probably
the
highest
property
tax
in
the
city,
to
live
on
authors
lane
we're
in
a
dense
area.
I
know
because
my
friends
have
waterfront
properties
and
they
pay
less
than
we
do
in
property
tax
you're
about
to
raise
a
four-story
building
that
looks
right
into
the
neighborhood
it
completely
defeats
all
the
privacy
and
and
that
little
knuckle
of
grass.
There
is
not
insignificant.
There's
a
dense
amount
of
trees
in
that
area,
and
I
want
to
know
what
you're
going
to
do
with
those
trees.
J
A
Mr
yakov,
just
so
you
know
you
have
to
give
your
full
statement
and
then
the
respondent
will
will
respond
to
all
the
questions
after
the
first
five
people.
So
if
that's
all
that
you
had
to
ask
and
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
one,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
you
got
everything
in
yeah.
Nothing
further,
all
right!
Thank
you
very
much
and
our
next
speaker,
madam
kirk,.
H
H
H
People
are
renting
and
they
have
so
many
cars
they're
parking
on
their
lawns,
they're,
paving
their
backyards
for
parking,
and
it
works
out
because
it's
students,
basically
that
it's
about
one
car
per
room
in
these
houses.
Like
my
neighbors,
have
three
bedrooms:
they
have
four
cars
in
the
driveway
plus
to
create
these.
H
We
have
a
tremendous
sewer,
flooding
problem
in
this
in
this
area,
particularly
this
year.
It's
got
even
worse,
where
all
our
lots
have
been
flooded
and
our
basements
so
you're,
paving
over
more
land
to
create
these
parking
spaces
which
would
normally
absorb
rainfall.
You
got
too
few
parking
spaces.
It's
totally
unrealistic.
H
They're
talking
about
this
street,
you
know
being
an
area
with
amenities.
No,
there
aren't
you
know
you
have
to.
You
have
to
go
quite
a
distance
to
find
a
grocery
store,
drugstore
or
anything.
That
means
people
have
to
drive.
You
know
they
don't
have
an
alternative,
really,
obviously
you're,
not
catering
totally
to
students.
If
you
have
three
bedroom
units,
I
don't
think
anyways.
H
The
traffic
in
this
area
is
already
ridiculous.
They're
backed
up
if
you
go
south
on
print
south
on
portsmouth,
when
you
get
to
johnson
there's
a
left
turn
lane.
Well,
people
are
backed
up
so
far
they're
going
into
the
opposite
traffic
lane
to
turn
left,
and
this
is
extremely
dangerous
and
there's
accidents
all
the
time
at
this
intersection,
queen
mary
road
is
meant
to
be
a
traffic
calming
area
where
they
put
in
speed.
Bumps
tried
to
stop
people
using
it
as
a
through
road
to
bath
road.
H
H
K
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
carol
clapperton.
I
live
at
107
and
dickman's
drive.
I
live
almost
kitty
corner
from
the
the
house
that
borders
on
the
parking
lot
of
this
proposed
development,
one
hou
a
kitty
corner
in
down
one
house,
I'm
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
scale
and
size
of
the
plans,
as
well
as
the
traffic
noise
and
lack
of
green
space.
The
apartment
would
have.
K
K
We've
all
been
through
the
covid
pandemic
in
the
last
two
years
have
learned
a
lot.
What
many
of
us
have
have
found
is
that
we
need
to
have
green
space
around
us
for
our
health,
those
of
us
who
live
in
the
woodlands
area.
This
area
have
been
fortunate
to
have
backyards
and
quiet
streets,
to
walk,
to
relax
and
to
garden
and
enjoy
our
homes.
We
know
that
trees,
green
space
and
quiet
and
good
air
factor
into
our
well-being.
K
This
apartment
building
should
it
proceed
as
planned
would
undermine
the
health
and
livability
of
our
area.
It
may
erode
the
neighborhood
and
lead
to
more
noise
traffic
and
lack
of
respect
for
the
peace
of
others.
This
building
is
entirely
too
big.
It
actually
looks
like
a
building
that
might
have
been
designed
for
another
locale,
as
it
has
little
room
for
snow
removal,
parking
or
outdoor
space
for
the
tenants
to
enjoy
any
green
space.
K
K
I
hope
it's,
the
latter.
I
can
envision
a
building
that
would
be
much
more
appropriate
and
aesthetically
pleasing.
It
would
have
ample
parking
a
circular
type
driveway
for
easy
deliveries,
space
for
snow
removal,
garbage
bin
and
recycle
pickups,
as
well
as
some
green
space
for
the
tenants
to
enjoy
a
barbecue
or
sitting
out
on
a
summer
day.
K
K
K
L
L
Two
is
with
regards
to
parking.
I
see
that
well,
depending
on
which
document
you
read
66
units
and
23
or
25
parking
spaces
that
is
missing
out
on
the
other
40
some
people.
Where
are
they
going
to
park,
and
I
I
know
from
having
friends
in
the
area
that,
even
as
things
are
now
with
the
the
daycare
or
the
montessori
school
rather
at
the
corner,
people
are
already
parking
on
dickens,
drive
and
other
streets
in
the
city,
and
this
would
only
make
it
a
lot
worse.
L
M
M
So
this
is
a
just
like
the
the
diagram
that
developers
showed.
You
can
see
it
stretches
to
the
extreme
edges
of
the
property.
The
front
of
the
building
is
only
four
meters
from
the
sidewalk.
If
you
were
standing
on
the
sidewalk,
you
can
hear
all
the
conversations
in
the
apartments.
It's
no
privacy
for
even
the
tenants
and
next
slide.
Please.
M
M
M
M
M
When
there's
a
red
light
there,
the
cars
are
backed
up
all
the
way
back
buses,
trucks,
everything.
So
it's
a
nightmare
to
be
backing
out.
If
you
are
a
taxi
or
a
pizza
delivery
or
delivering
parcels,
fedex
ups
or
an
ambulance,
there's
barely
room
for
you
to
get
in,
and
then
you
have
to
back
out.
I
think
that
is
just
totally
unsuitable
to
think
that
if
you
provide
fewer
parking
spots,
people
will
turn
to
car
sharing
or
bicycling.
If,
if
only
that
were
true,
we
could
solve
a
lot
of
our
pollution
problems.
M
So
I
walk
along
portsmouth
there
at
least
four
times
a
day,
because
I
walked
from
my
house
to
the
senior
center
for
classes
and
two
weeks
two
fridays
ago
decided
to
take
a
picture.
Here's
the
parking
lot
of
the
health
unit.
You
might
think
that
it's
a
huge
parking
lot.
Some
people
can
maybe
park
in
there
or
guest
a
visit
or
park
there
for
a
few
hours.
That
parking
lot
is
parked
full
from
morning
to
when
everyone
goes
home,
there's
not
enough
parking
just
for
the
staff,
let
along
the
visitors.
M
In
fact,
the
staff
park
on
altars
lane
and
dickens
drive.
If
you
look
on
the
map,
there's
no
path
to
author's
name,
but
they
have
walked
through
through
the
bushes
and
trees,
a
little
shortcut
through
the
grass,
so
people
park
there
and
then
walk
to
work
at
the
health
unit.
The
other
side
streets
all
around
that
area
are
full
of
st
lawrence
college
students
who
don't
want
to
pay
for
parking
in
the
st
orange
parking
lot.
M
M
M
Oh
well
I'll
go
to
my
last
point.
Please.
This
law
is
already
rezoned
for
criminal
supported
living,
that
is,
for
senior
residents.
If
you
look,
it
is
not
just
residential.
It
has
a
special
designation
l9,
which
is
for
a
program
similar
to
the
oasis
program
at
bulling
link
greens.
It
will
be
a
smaller
16
unit,
building
with
facilities
for
rec,
room
exercise,
dining
and
so
on.
A
I
Yes,
thank
you
for
those
comments.
I'm
gonna
kind
of
group
them
together
into
a
couple
of
themes.
The
first
one
would
deal
with
the
question
regarding
the
trees
from
the
first
speaker.
I
believe
it
was
mr
yakub
to
the
rear.
At
this
point
we
would
have
no
reason
to
want
to
demolish
or
to
remove
those
trees
kind
of.
I
called
it
a
finger.
He
called
it
a
knuckle
that
portion
to
the
rear,
and
this
would
deal
with
some
of
the
other
questions.
I
Also
at
this
time
a
landscaping
plan
hasn't
been
submitted
if
this
were
to
move
forward
through
the
zoning
process
that
would
be
dealt
with
through
the
site
plan.
Approval
application,
where
a
consolidated
landscape
plan
would
be
based
upon
that
final
proposal,
which
would
involve
the
planting
of
trees
as
well
as
exterior
amenity
in
terms
of
benches
and
and
things
like
that.
I
Therefore
reducing
that
automobile
dependency
increasing
the
walkability
to
a
place
like
the
local
college
in
terms
of
drainage,
a
a
pre,
both
a
pre
and
a
post
drainage
plan
have
been
submitted
again.
All
right,
all
rain,
water
or
or
any
type
of
water
generated
on
this
property
would
have
to
be
demonstrated
that
it
could
be
contained
within
this
property
and
there'd
be
no
runoff
onto
either
adjacent
properties
to
the
north
south
or
to
the
east.
I
I
I
Lastly,
I
think
it's
important
some
of
the
questions
that
came
up
with
the
the
appropriateness
of
a
development
like
this.
In
relation
to
the
neighborhood,
I
think,
from
a
planning
perspective,
we
kind
of
have
two
things
fighting
against
us.
We
have
the
established
residential
neighborhood
located
to
the
rear
with
portsmouth
itself.
This
wouldn't
be
an
appropriate
development,
had
it
been
on
the
interior
of
that
established
neighborhood,
which
is
essentially
single
family
dwellings.
I
When
we
look
at
the
context
of
portsmouth
the
appropriateness
of
a
four-story
building,
that
is
on
the
streetscape
that
presents
itself
with
the
idea
of
eyes
on
the
street
of
having
people
look
onto
portsmouth
really
is
a
development
pattern.
We
should
be
promoting
along
streets
like
this,
that
have
a
higher
traffic
count
as
well
as
pedestrian
walkability
and,
and
I
think
that
that
pretty
much
answers
the
questions.
I
N
N
N
I'm
also
wondering
where
all
the
garbage
and
compost
and
recycling
would
be
handled.
It
sounds
like
we
could
have
a
number
of
people
even
beyond
the
number
of
units,
and
this
could
be
a
large
amount
to
handle.
I'm
also
wondering
if
there's
any
affordable
housing
here
and
by
affordable.
I
I
really
mean
the
true,
affordable
housing,
not
something
that's
following
the
market
value
or
is
considered
more
affordable
because
it's
a
smaller
unit
than
another
unit,
something
that
that's
really
affordable
in
the
sense
that
it's
available
below
market
rates
for
people.
N
I
did
write
a
letter
opposing
this
application
for
a
number
of
of
reasons.
I
do
think
the
building's
quite
out
of
scale
to
the
north
west,
east
and
south,
including
on
portsmouth,
and
I
think
the
high
density
rental
building
is,
is
really
out
of
quite
out
of
context
for
this.
This
area
and
again
not
just
for
the
neighborhood
behind
and
I
did
think
increased
traffic
would
be
an
issue
privacy,
an
issue
for
neighbors
and
also
the
increase
of
noise.
N
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
say
it's
really
a
concern
and
again
it's
about
water,
which
has
been
such
a
problem
for
many
people
in
this
area.
I
think
the
application
says
that
permeable
pavers
are
to
be
used
for
parking.
I
hope
I
have
that
right
and
I
thought
well.
This
is
this
is
good.
This
is
better
than
non-permeable
pavement
for
handling
water,
but
I
know
that
permeable
pavers
they
allow
water
to
move
through
them,
but
they
don't
absorb
water.
N
This
could
still
be
an
issue
so,
and
also
I
just
wanted
to
point
out,
as
I
did
in
my
letter-
that
really
the
best
way
to
absorb
water
or
one
of
the
best
ways
is
into
healthy
soil
and
healthy
soil
has
plants
and
trees
and
living
roots
in
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
again,
it's
just
a
comment.
Okay,
that's
it!
Thank
you
very
much.
A
O
90
dickens
drive,
I'm
sorry
that
wasn't
no
problem.
A
lot
of
points
have
been
covered.
Then
I've
which
I've
put
in
my
written
pro
contribution.
I
will
not
repeat
them.
I
am
rather
surprised
that,
after
the
long
process
of
city
staff,
counselors
and
taxpayers
to
produce
a
plan
and
this
project
bounces
in
immediately
right
off
the
plan,
the
four
stories
limit
was
at
the
end
of
calderwood,
as
I
understand
it
in
the
plant.
O
So
that
is
a
concern
as
an
immediate
neighbor
and
I
think
all
of
us
who,
but
on
the
project,
we're
much
concerned
that
the
lack
of
parking
will
put
parking
onto
the
side
streets
and
then
visitors
residents.
How
do
you
get
to
the
place?
Do
you
go
all
the
way
around?
No,
you
cut
across
people's
property.
O
You
can
put
up
security
fences.
My
experience
in
this
area
is
they'll,
be
quickly.
Vandalized
there'll
be
a
hole
in
them
and
so
that
that
is
a
real
concern
for
those
of
us
neighboring
on
arthur's
lane
and
on
dickens
drive
and
the
rest.
I
have.
I
have
stated
in
my
written
proposition
I'll
be
quiet
now.
P
P
The
graphics
which
we
saw
from
the
developer
were
very
interesting
in
terms
of
the
viewpoints,
but
what
I
think
was
was
missing
from
those
was
the
fact
that
the
adjacent
buildings
are
largely
bungalows
in
a
lot
of
cases
or
one
and
a
half
story,
and
this
this
building
is
going
to
come
to
dominate
the
landscape.
I
think
pretty
significantly.
P
Auto
at
the
at
street
levels
is
a
single
story.
The
concerns
that
have
been
raised
about
parking,
I
think,
can't
be
understated.
We
have
got
issues
in
our
neighborhood
already
with
people
parking
quite
extensively
in
the
area,
the
photographs
that
that
were
shown
of
the
health
unit
parking
lot,
that's
absolutely
spot
on.
Another
concern
which
I
have
is
that
for
the
the
residents
of
this
building
who
are
seeking
outdoor
space,
something
to
do
on
a
nice
day.
P
There
is
greenery
around,
but
it
happens
to
be
the
engunata
area,
which
is
a
reserved
spot
for
developmental
there's,
there's
parking
or
park
space
there,
which
is
intended
so
there's
there
are
swings.
There
are
sensory
gardens
and
things
like
that.
It
is
inconceivable
that
116
people
aren't
going
to
find
themselves
on
a
on
a
nice
day
outside
partying
in
those
spaces
that
that
strikes
me
as
a
particularly
it's
it's.
P
So
then
I
guess
my
biggest
concern,
as
was
just
raised
by
somebody,
is
the
fact
that
we've
gone
through
this
consultation,
and
this
is
in
many
ways
a
question
for
council
having
gone
through
this.
On
the
very
day
that
I
received
the
results
of
that
that
activity,
which
was
to
say
that
the
four
stories
were
limited
south
of
calderwood,
I
opened
the
very
next
envelope
and
we
get
this
proposal
where
I
have
to
ask
the
question:
does
this
process
mean
anything
to
talk
about
rezoning?
P
A
R
One
question
is
around
shadows
from
this
property,
given
a
significantly
higher
than
the
surrounding
properties,
and
there
would
be
quite
a
loss
of
mature
trees
in
the
area.
So
I'm
wondering
if
that
has
been
part
of
the
development
plan,
how
shadows
will
affect
the
backyards
of
the
adjacent
properties,
as
is
being
noted
by
several
people
now.
This
is
a
much
taller
effective
building
than
the
other
two
properties
on
that
side
of
the
street.
R
R
I
agree
with
an
earlier
comment
that,
given
the
size
of
the
lot
looking
there's
some
very
nice
town
homes
and
other
residential,
I
assume
rental
units
at
kings
and
portsmouth
directly
across
from
st
lawrence
college.
That
I
feel,
would
be
a
more
appropriate
size
for
this
lot
than
what
is
currently
proposed.
A
Thank
you,
dr
glatt,
and
then
madame
clerk.
I
see
we
have
one
last
speaker,
so
I
think
we'll
go
to
the
our
last
speaker
and
then
we'll
give
the
applicant
a
chance
to
respond.
Mr
radley,
for
your
name
and
record
for
the
or
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
we'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
you.
S
S
As
the
applicant's
representative
indicated
it's
going
to
be
a
student
residence,
the
rents
within
this
place
would
not
be
affordable
by
the
ordinary
working
family
because
I'm
told
the
students
in
the
kingston
area
maximize
bedrooms
and
are
paying
between
500
and
750
to
800
dollars
per
person.
First.
A
S
S
S
The
only
other
two
units
of
interest
on
portsmouth
avenue,
you've
seen
pictures
of
one
is
the
health
unit.
The
other
is
on
granada.
They
are
not
four
stories
high.
They
do
not
provide
enough
parking.
It
took
me
at
the
request
of
the
residents
of
arthur's
lane
two
and
a
half
years
to
get
the
city
to
put
up
signs,
no
parking
on
author's
lane.
It
was
parking
from
eight
in
the
morning
to
seven
o'clock
at
night
and
I
don't
think
any
of
the
counselors
on
the
planning
committee
would
appreciate
that
in
front
of
their
home.
S
The
intensification
of
this
area
is
totally
inappropriate
and,
as
a
interest
point,
I
spoke
to
some
of
the
people
at
the
health
unit
why
they
were
parking
in
front
of
our
houses
on
author's
lane.
You
know
what
they
said.
It
was
almost
impossible
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
health
unit
because
of
the
intense
traffic
on
portsmouth
out.
You
know
now
that
there
is
st
lawrence
college
there's
a
new
hospital
and
there
are
going
to
be
new,
multiple
residentials
built
on
the
hospital
property.
S
If
anything,
portsmouth
avenue
is
overused
now
and
to
put
this
unit
where
there
are
no
other
apartments.
Residential
and
institutional
is
totally
out
of
place
totally
inappropriate
with
the
area,
and
despite
what
my
friend
jonathan
says,
it
is
not
good
planning
and
I
doubt
very
much
that
the
students
that
will
occupy
this
building
will
keep
their
activities
on
this.
S
A
I
Sorry
I
was
speaking
all
while
on
you
to
go
over
a
couple
of
questions.
The
garbage
room
is
proposed
to
be
internal.
It
is
identified
on
the
ground
floor
plan.
It
is
approximately
260
square
feet.
It
would
have
an
internal
compactor
that
would
deal
and
and
would
retain
all
the
garbage
internally
rather
than
having
an
exterior
garbage
bin
that
would
be
enclosed.
It
is
internal
to
the
building
itself
in
terms
of
walkways
and
permeability.
I
Yes,
all
walkways
would
be
proposed
to
be
permeable,
it's
very
difficult
to
make
a
complete
parking
lot
parking
area,
permeable
permeable
just
again
because
of
the
weight
of
vehicles,
and
things
like
that.
It's
very
tough
to
be
able
to
achieve
that
and
really
have
a
parking
area
kind
of
stand.
The
test
of
time
dealing
with,
I
believe
the
third
speaker
spoke
to
those
3d
graphics.
I
I
searched
I
searched
and
I
searched
for
3d
graphics
of
the
adjacent
neighbors.
I
I
did
find
them
to
put
into
them,
but
it
essentially
took
every
building
as
being
the
same
size
in
in
addition
to
the
institutional
building
to
the
south.
So
we're
happy
to
provide
a
sun
shadow
study
that
would
illustrate
that
that
appropriate
3d
massing
and
how
that
would
affect
the
neighboring
properties
in
terms
of
sight
lines
for
coming
in
and
out
of
the
property
we
do
have
the
appropriate
setback
from
the
parking
spots,
as
well
as
some
landscape
buffer
on
the
north.
I
That
would
allow
for
sight
lines
of
pedestrians
as
well
as
vehicles
traveling
north
along
portsmouth
or
pedestrians,
traveling,
north
or
south.
That
would
help
that,
in
terms
of
privacy
and
low
overlook,
there
are
no
rear-facing
balconies
into
that
established
interior
residential
portion
of
the
neighborhood.
So
there
is
no
in
terms
of
overlook
of
exterior
amenity
space
facing
them.
I'm
not
a
transportation
analysis.
This
proposal
has
been
submitted
with
a
tis
study
that
will
be
reviewed.
I
A
G
G
It
looks
like
from
the
maps
anyway
that
there
are
several
trees
along
that
finger,
and
that's
that's
definitely
needed
to
for,
like
the
visual
buffer
to
like
the
the
neighbors,
as
well
as
to
provide
the
noise
buffer.
So
I
think
that's
those
trees
should
be
left,
as
is
when
you
look
at
the
parking
lot
as
proposed
yeah.
I
I'm
sorry
I
was
just
bringing
it
up
on
my
end:
oh
perfect,
okay,
sorry
so
again,
our
our
best
efforts
would
be
made
to
preserve
any
tree
that
is
located
on
the
site
along
there.
That
could
be
also
mitigated
through
cedars,
hedges
and
things
like
that
to
mitigate
any
noise
or
or
even
light
pollution.
Coming
from
that
parking
area,
all
lighting
would
be
directed
down
onto
the
property
itself.
I
G
Right,
so
basically,
what
like,
then,
the
comment
I
want
in
the
minutes
and
for
stuff
to
consider
for
the
comprehensive
report
is
if
we
can
do
any
underground
parking.
I
know
it's
more
expensive,
but
you
know
we
have
to
make
this
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
if
we
did
put
any
parking
underground.
G
G
Well,
you
can
see
the
parking
when
you
go
to
where
the
sears
was
at
cat,
mall
and
you're
driving
in
from
princess
street,
down
to
the
old
sears
building,
and
you
have
sudden
mills
like
those
apartments
there
and
you
can
see
two-tiered,
I'm
not
sure,
but
if
we
could,
you
know
somehow
still
get
a
buffer
of
trees
saved
to
the
existing
houses
in
that
north
and
northeast
corner.
Those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you.
T
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
was
just
wondering
if
staff
could
comment
more
on
that
question
about
the
the
difference
or
conflict
between
single
family
zoning
versus
the
argument
being
given
about
the
collector
road.
I
know
where
we
have
a
nodes
and
corridor
falls
in
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
how
that
impacts.
This
particular
type
of
proposal.
T
C
C
A
C
Yes,
through
you,
mr
vice
chair,
so
bigger
part,
I'm
just
scrolling
through
my
through
my
report
here
so
in
the
b3
zone,
which
is
proposed,
which
is
generally
for
multi-family
dwellings.
The
density
is
123
dwelling
units
per
net
hectare,
which
is
the
calculation
of
basically
how
many
dwelling
units
per
the
the
size
of
the
property.
What
is
proposed
is
203
dwelling
units
per
net
hectare.
U
U
With
that
being
said,
though,
it
doesn't
stop
a
property
owner
from
applying
to
intensify
density
on
their
property
or
a
proposal.
As
mr
peggy
has
noted,
intensification
is
encouraged
and
considered
for
properties
that
are
located
on
arterial
or
collector
roads
and
towards
the
edge
of
neighborhoods,
and,
of
course,
they
would
be
assessed
against
the
existing
official
plan.
Policies
for
intensification.
A
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
madam
vice
chair,
the
the
that
may
be
so,
but
we
we
just
went
through
an
agonizing
process
of
trying
to
establish
the
rules.
We
established
the
rules,
we
removed
some
some
some
sites,
the
long
johnson
and
I
suspect,
along
portsmouth
as
well.
I
think
maybe
this
one
from
that.
You
know
the
focus
of
intensification
and
here
comes
the
first
proposal
and
it
sort
of
flies
in
the
face
of
those
expectations
that
are
laid
out
in
the
central
kingston
growth
strategy.
A
So
you
know,
I
I
think
it's
you
know,
I'm
just
speaking
about
our
own
credibility
here.
You
know
we
went
through
this
whole
exercise,
and
here
we
are,
you
know
with
the
very
first
proposal
for
development
along
that
that
this
corridor
and
it
is,
it
is
completely
opposite
to
what
we,
what
we
recommended
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
what
was
what
was
approved
by
council.
G
A
T
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
formulated
my
follow-up
question.
I
couldn't
come
up
with
before
the
and
that
is,
and
you
were
sort
of
getting
it
and
part
of
going
to
this
density,
and
so
what
criteria
would
tip
the
balance
between
the
argument
about
the
collector
road,
which
seems
to
be
the
central
argument
of
the
form
and
the
argument
for
maintaining
a
one
family,
designation
and
a
it's
one's.
Quite
that
simple.
A
U
It's
it's
not
solely
based
on
location
on
an
arterial
collector
road.
It
is
looking
at
the
compatibility
criteria
within
the
official
plan.
It
is
looking
at
the
comments
from
our
partnering
agencies,
such
as
transportation
utilities
kingston.
So
we
assess
all
these
items
in
making
the
determination
and
again
the
the
applicant
is
certainly
it's
within
their
right
to
apply
for
what's
before
the
committee
tonight.
It
does
not
necessarily
mean
that's,
what's
going
to
get
approved
in
fact,
as
as
we
were
reminded
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
no
recommendations
are
being
made
tonight.
U
T
Okay,
so
I
take
it,
then
all
the
aspects
brought
up
by
the
residents
and
the
opponent
would
be
like
things
we've
heard
tonight
like
overlook
shadowing.
They
said
they
would
do
a
shadowing
study
and
is
there
anything
else
that
comes
to
mind
that
you
would
be
evaluating
in
particular
to
this
particular
site
council.
V
Thank
you
and
through
you
vice
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
build
upon
the
comments
that
were
meant
before
said
before,
because
the
official
plan-
and
I
feel,
like
I
say
this
frequently
at
meetings.
The
way
it's
designed
is
that
new
development
in
the
city
is
evaluated.
The
criteria
in
the
official
planner
evaluative
mr
park
has
identified
all
the
correct
policies
that
go
along
with
that.
V
So
the
first
one
is
about
where
it's
located,
whether
it's
located
in
a
center
or
corridor
in
a
site-specific
policy
area
or
a
secondary
plan,
or
on
the
periphery
of
a
low
or
medium
density,
residential
neighborhood.
The
next
two
criteria
deal
with
walking
distance
to
amenities
like
commercial
uses
and
institutional
uses,
parkland,
etc,
and
then
the
third
one
is
that
it's
located
on
an
existing
arterial
or
collector
road.
V
So
that
really
forms
the
basis
for
the
first
set
of
evaluation
to
see
where
it
is
appropriate
in
the
city
to
locate
higher
density
residential
uses
and
then
from
there.
Everything
that
mr
park
outlined
is
also
part
of
the
criteria.
So
the
compatibility
criteria
of
the
official
plan
public
comments,
comments
from
other
partners
and
agencies
within
the
city
and
external
to
the
city
and
everything
we
hear
in
public
meetings,
which
forms
part
of
our
technical
review.
T
Thank
you.
Thank
you
that
my
purpose
here
was
not
to
I've
heard.
Mr
barr
speak
eloquently
on
this
number
of
times
the,
whether
it's
a
flesh
out
for
the
public
and
the
proponent
for
that
matter,
what
the
criteria
were,
and
so
they
could
all
each
sharpen
their
their
appreciation.
What
is
actually
happening
here
and
they
made
appropriate
comments
on
both
sides,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
people
to
realize
they
should
refer
to
the
official
plan
and
what
is
the
zoning
now?
T
A
I
Yeah,
it's
really
to
echo
the
policies
that
form
the
basis
for
this
application.
Really
are
those
official
plan
policies
of
appropriate
intensification
and
how
it
fits
with
the
the
kind
of
context
of
that
not
only
portsmouth
but
the
interior,
the
neighborhood
itself,
the
the
appropriate
separation
of
eight
meters
from
the
residential
properties
to
the
rear,
in
my
opinion,
is
more
than
adequate,
especially
given
that
there
is
no
balconies
proposed
and
really
the
sighting
of
the
building
has
been
brought
away
from
the
residential
building
to
the
north
to
mitigate
any
impact.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
questions
from
committee
all
right,
seeing
none,
then
we
will
draw
this
public
meeting
to
a
close
I'd
like
to
move
right
into
the
next
one.
If
folks
are
okay
with
that,
or
do
you
want
a
break,
we'll
move
move
ahead
all
right,
so
the
next
public
meeting
is
an
application
for
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
submitted
by
patreon
carded
incorporated
developments
on
behalf
of
ryokan
management,
with
respect
to
the
subject
site
located
at
1300
bath
road.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
our
planner
for
introductory
comments.
W
Thank
you,
chair,
or
vice
chair,
not
sure
which,
one
to
say
through
you
yeah.
So
thank
you.
So
this
is
a
public
meeting
for
what
we
know
locally
as
the
frontenac
mall
on
bath
road.
So
public
meeting
just
reiterating
that
this
is
a
public
meeting
and
like
ricardo
or
my
colleague
mr
arpeggio,
says
it
a
few
times
tonight.
There
are
no
recommendations
or
decisions
being
made
at
this
time.
W
This
is
really
an
opportunity
for
the
proponent
to
present
the
proposal
and
receive
feedback
from
a
committee
in
the
public,
so
notice
was
provided
for
tonight's
meeting
in
accordance
with
the
planning
act,
which
includes
on-site
signage,
mail
it
to
neighbors
and
courtesy
notice.
In
the
week,
standard
notice
will
be
provided
in
a
similar
manner,
ahead
of
any
future
comprehensive
meetings
scheduled
for
the
application
and
for
those
unfamiliar
with
the
process.
W
Looking
for
further
information
about
the
application,
but
they
did
not
offer
any
formal
comments
and
for
the
committee's
information,
the
applicant
did
lead
a
virtual
open
house
on
this
application
in
february
of
this
year
and
further
details
about
attendance
and
feedback
at
that
meeting
are
provided
in
the
public
meeting
report
in
front
of
the
committee
tonight.
So
that
is
all
from
me
and
I
will
hand
it
over
to
the
applicant.
X
You
good
evening,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee
and
everyone
attending
tonight's
public
meeting.
My
name
is
harry
frucios,
I'm
with
the
planning
firm
of
zlinka
preama
limited.
We
are
the
land
use,
planning,
consultants
for
bayfield,
realty
advisors
and
patreon
developments
as
it
relates
to
this
application.
X
I
also
want
to
introduce
mr
gabe
ciacconi
from
bayfield
realty
advisors
and
miss
latoya
powder
who's
here
from
patreon
developments,
and
they
will
be
in
attendance
as
well
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
I
just
did
want
to
point
out
just
a
matter
of
clarification
that
rio
can
management
is
not
part
of
this
application,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
that
got
in
there,
but
the
applicants
are
actually
bayfield
realty
advisors
and
patreon
developments.
X
Just
to
clarify
before
I
get
into
my
presentation,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
staff
for
their
efforts
and
working
with
us
over
the
past
several
months
and
bringing
this
matter
forward
this
evening.
There's
been
a
lot
of
productive
discussion
about
about
the
future
development
of
this
site
and
we're
happy
to
bring
that
forward
to
you
this
evening
and
following
our
presentation
myself
as
well
as
mr
chicony
and
miss
powder
would
be
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
have
the
next
slide.
Please.
X
X
X
X
This
slide
basically
just
shows
you
the
surrounding
land
uses
surrounding
the
property
to
the
east.
We
have
mid-rise
residential
apartment,
building
and
commercial
uses
to
the
south.
We
have
institutional
lands
that
are
used
for
the
collins
bay
penitentiary,
as
well
as
natural
natural
areas
and
open
space
to
the
west
is
centennial
road.
Beyond
further
to
the
west,
there's
a
mix
of
commercial
light
industrial
uses
to
the
north.
X
Generally
speaking,
the
lands
are
located
along
a
major
corridor
within
the
city
which
is
bath
road,
where
there's
an
existing
bus,
rapid
transit
service
to
connect
directly
to
the
downtown,
and
that
is
shown
by
the
the
blue
line
on
the
exhibit,
and
we
know
that
there
are
a
mix
of
uses
along
that
corridor
next
slide.
Please.
X
This
is
the
land
use
schedule
for.
In
the
official
plan,
the
subject
lands
our
designated
district
commercial.
The
intent
of
this
designation
is
to
accommodate
a
broad
range
of
retail
and
commercial
space.
However,
the
the
designation
does
allow
for
medium
and
high
density
residential
uses,
such
as
what
is
being
proposed
as
part
of
this
application,
and
just
quickly,
you
can
see
that
there's
a
mix
of
land
uses
in
this
area,
you
have
residential
to
the
north.
X
X
The
subject.
Lands
are
currently
zone
c25,
which
is
reflective
of
the
op
designation
that
I
just
spoke
to
and
generally
contemplates
commercial
uses
on
the
property.
As
you
all
know,
the
city
recently
completed
its
comprehensive
zoning
viola
review
exercise.
However,
that
exercise
did
not
extend
to
the
subject
lands.
X
X
We
also
acknowledge
that
the
city
has
been
undertaking
the
exercise
referred
to
as
density
by
design,
the
intent
of
which
is
to
provide
direction
for
where
the
height
and
density
could
be
best
accommodated
within
within
the
city.
The
proposed
development
is
informed
by
the
goals
of
the
city
to
place
height
and
density
in
appropriate
locations,
and
in
our
opinion,
this
is
an
appropriate
candidate
for
intensification
on
this
site.
X
Next
slide,
please,
and
now
we
get
into
the
the
actual
proposed
development
and,
as
I
noted
earlier,
we're
looking
at
bringing
forward
an
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
by
amendment
for
the
for
the
entire
site.
However,
the
first
phase
of
development
is
is,
is
required
to
proceed
to
build
a
six-story
building
at
the
northeast
corner
of
the
property.
It
would
require
demolition
of
a
portion
of
the
existing
shopping,
plaza
approximately
eighty
thousand
square
feet.
This
discussion
has
been
gone
going
for
several
months
with
staff.
X
Prior
to
submitting
these
applications,
we
had
several
discussions
about
renovating
and
repurposing
the
existing
commercial
plaza
to
provide
for
upgrades
to
the
existing
building,
but
also
to
introduce
residential
uses.
As
you
see
in
the
in
a
highlighted
red
space
now
as
part
of
the
some
some
of
the
highlights
of
the
phase,
one
development
that
we're
seeking
to
to
get
approvals
for
the
site
itself
that
will
accommodate
phase
1
is
approximately
3.85
acres.
It
will
be
severed
from
the
rest
of
the
property.
X
As
I
noted
before,
the
demolition
of
approximately
80
000
square
feet
of
existing
commercial
space
will
take
place
to
allow
for
a
stand-alone
six-story
residential
apartment
building
containing
approximately
290
units,
which
equates
to
185
units
per
hectare.
Just
for
that
portion
of
the
property
there
will
be
at-grade
outdoor
amenity
space
to
the
south
of
the
building.
There
will
be
an
upgraded
connection
directly
from
bath
road
to
the
rear
of
the
property,
where
the
where
the
apartment
building
is
positioned.
X
This
upgraded
connection
is
sorry,
I
think
no
we're
still
in
the
same
slide.
I
apologize.
The
the
enhanced
north-south
connection
will
be
designed
to
accommodate
sidewalks
bicycle
facilities
and
landscaped
areas
to
promote
walkability
and
efficient
pedestrian
connectivity
to
bath
road
trans
facilities
and
the
surrounding
lands.
X
X
X
X
This
slide
shows
the
interface
between
the
proposed
apartment
building
and
the
renovated
plaza
the
renovated
plaza.
You
can
see
it's
it's
on
the
right
of
the
screen,
and
that
is
the
rear
of
the
building,
and
you
can
see
there
are
major
upgrades
plans
that
it
doesn't
appear
like
a
back
of
a
typical
shopping
plaza,
it's
meant
to
interface,
with
the
proposed
apartment
building
they
will.
There
will
be
connections
to
allow
more
efficient
movement
through
the
the
plaza
in
terms
of
a
breezeway.
X
The
secondary
access
to
the
apartment
building
faces
the
mall,
and
again
this
is
just
to
show
how
the
two
uses
will
interact
in
this.
We
call
it
a
unique
situation
where
we're
having
the
back
of
the
commercial
building
facing
a
new
building,
but
in
terms
of
the
design,
we
feel
that
this
will
work
appropriately
in
terms
of
the
the
interface
and
allowing
proper
connectivity
between
the
two
properties
and
within
the
overall
site.
X
The
future
phases,
as
you
can
see
on
on
this
exhibit,
would
require
further
removal
of
portions
of
the
existing
commercial
plaza.
However,
these
future
phases
are
not
intended
to
proceed
in
the
near
future.
The
long-term
planning
for
this
growth
node
will
depend
largely
on
prevailing
market
conditions
and
lease
obligations
with
existing
commercial
tenants
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
just
another
view
of
the
the
long
term
development
goal.
The
opportunity
here
is
to
direct
and
concentrate
intensification
and
build
form
along
bathroom
and
centennial
drive,
particularly
at
the
intersection
of
these
two
streets.
X
Based
on
the
concept
plan
that
we've
produced
to
date,
there
can
be
a
total
of
approximately
1685
units
that
can
be
accommodated.
This
equates
to
approximately
180
units
per
hectare
for
the
entire
property
and
the
height.
As
you
can
see,
it's
concentrated
at
the
intersection.
We
believe
that
we
can
achieve
a
maximum
height
of
20
stories,
this
location,
and
then
it
would
step
down
along
the
streets.
X
Our
client
intends
to
honor
the
existing
leases
of
its
tenants
and
all
tenants
have
been
notified
of
the
intention
to
redevelop
the
lands.
All
tenants
affected
by
the
first
phase
of
development
were
approached
very
early
in
the
planning
process
and
were
also
offered
new
space
following
the
redevelopment.
X
Alternatively,
tenants
were
also
given
the
option
of
terminating
terminating
their
lease,
should
they
choose
to
relocate
elsewhere,
but
of
note,
a
number
of
commercial
units
are
being
retained
on
site
for
this
phase.
For
the
first
phase
of
redevelopment,
for
example,
the
boys
and
girls
clubs
recently
signed
a
new
long-term
lease
to
remain
in
the
plaza.
X
X
So,
in
order
to
accommodate
the
proposed
residential
development
as
described
and
established
a
future
vision
for
the
lands
as
a
mixed-use
node
applications
for
an
official
plan.
Amendment
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
have
been
submitted
to
the
city.
The
official
plan
amendment
adds
a
site-specific
policy
to
the
front-end
mall
area
and
is
intended
to
provide
specific
direction
for
redevelopment
in
a
comprehensively
planned
manner,
while
also
recognizing
the
importance
of
the
existing
function
on
the
site.
X
We're
still
working
through
the
details
of
the
amendment
with
staff
and
suspect
us
the
specifics
to
be
refined
through
that
through
the
process
the.
Similarly,
the
zoning
bile
amendment
process
proposes
to
implement
the
residential
use
by
rezoning
the
lands
and
including
site-specific
provisions
to
facilitate
the
redevelopment
and
again
we
are
refining
this
in
consultation
with
staff.
It's
an
ongoing
process,
but
the
zba
will
retain
permissions
for
the
existing
commercial
plaza,
as
well
as
provide
regulations
for
future
residential
development.
X
So,
in
conclusion,
the
vision
for
the
lands
is
for
a
phased
high
density,
mixed
use,
community
that
introduces
mid-rise
and
tall
buildings
on
the
site.
The
redevelopment
is
intended
to
shift
the
site
from
an
autos
oriented
commercial
plaza
to
a
livable
community
that
provides
opportunities
to
live
in
a
variety
of
market-based
housing
sizes,
with
numerous
opportunities
for
local
recreation
and
work
opportunities
as
a
result
of
the
mixed
use
format
that
introduces
additional
green
space
on
the
site
by
intensifying
these
lands.
X
Overall,
the
proposed
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
bile
amendment
in
our
opinion,
is
consistent
with
the
provincial
policy
statement
and
the
city's
official
plan,
as
well
as
long-term
growth
initiatives.
It
represents
sound
planning
principles
and
is
in
the
public
interest.
The
redevelopment
is
appropriate
for
the
subject,
lands
and
addresses
a
need
to
provide
more
housing
stock.
While
revitalizing
and
strengthening
the
commercial
function
of
the
property,
it
is
appropriate
to
comprehensively
plan
for
the
long-term
redevelopment
of
the
subject.
X
Lands
at
this
time
to
ensure
vision
for
the
areas
established
while
not
compromising
existing
operations
and
allowing
for
phase
redevelopment
that
is
flexible
to
respond
to
a
range
of
factors.
That
concludes
my
my
presentation,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
I'll,
be
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
A
B
B
B
Q
Mr
vice
chair
rob
colwell
1098
king
street
west
kingston
used
to
ride
my
horse
on
that
grounds.
Matter
of
fact,
so
long
time
resident
encouraged
to
see
they're
trying
to
revitalize
them
all.
Yes,
we
need
more
housing
units,
I'm
a
little
nervous
about
the
20-story
height
because
it
does
not
appear
to
include
the
extra
floor
required
for
the
elevator
heads
and
additional
utilities
that
normally
appear
on
the
top
of
the
building.
Thank
you.
L
Nicole
florent
in
98
king
street
west,
I
was
surprised,
pleasantly
surprised
with
the
proposal.
I
do
have
a
two
comments,
though
I
find
that
the
towers
which
you've
located
at
the
corner
of
bath,
road
and
centennial
are
are
perhaps
not
an
eyesore
but
they're
they're.
They
hit
the
eye,
and
if
you're
going
to
have
towers,
I
I
would
have
thought
in
appearance
that
you
would
have
them
further
in
to
that
back
building
that
you
have
behind
your
plan
today.
X
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
both
speakers
who
provided
their
comments
with
the
first
speaker
regarding
the
the
20-story
building.
The
plans
at
this
point
in
time
are
still
very
conceptual.
We
haven't.
We
haven't
gone
to
any
level
of
detail
to
show
mechanical
equipment
and
things
like
that,
but
that
will
happen
again.
The
future
phases
are
envisioned
to
be
far
down
the
future.
We're
we're
really
focused
on
phase
one
right
now
and
the
phase
one
building
will
be
in
for
site
plan
approval,
probably
within
the
next
week
or
so.
X
But
again
I
we
take
that
comment
and
just
to
advise
that
at
this
point
in
time
it
it
could
be.
The
future
phases
are
still
conceptual
at
this
point
in
time,
and
that
kind
of
relates
to
this.
To
the
second
speaker
as
well,
we
take
those
we
we
listen
to
your
comments.
I
mean
when,
when
the
time
comes,
when
the
future
phase
will
be
developed,
there
may
be
some
changes
again.
X
This
will
depend
largely
on
the
market
conditions
at
the
time
and
the
lease
obligations
that
they
have
with
the
existing
tenants
in
terms
of
commercial
on
the
ground
floor.
That
is
going
to
be
part
of
the
the
proposal
to
allow
commercial
uses
on
the
ground
floor
on
those
buildings
at
front
bath,
road
in
particular
how
they
operate
and
who
the
tenants
will
be.
I
mean
that's
something,
obviously
that
will
be
determined
down
the
road
as
again
as
market
conditions
dictate.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
vice
chair.
I
have
a
question,
let's
see,
so
maybe
it's
because
the
plan
that
you
saw
about
the
slide
that
you
showed
that
was
for
the
long-term
growth
on
on
centennial
drive.
It
didn't
show
the
traffic
light.
You
know
how
right
now
we
have
the
traffic
light
in
front
of
value
village,
and
so,
if
you're
trying
to
drive
out
of
the
mall
right
now,
you
can
go
left
to
go
so
down
on
centennial
and
then
on
bath
road
go
west.
G
It
will
now
in
the
future
phase
like
three
two
and
three
you're
gonna
have
all
towers
along
centennial
drive
and
your
concept
plan
didn't
show
like
this
traffic
lights.
So
how
would
someone
then,
coming
from
the
west
end
get
into
you
know
your
development
to
go
shopping
at
food
basics,
because,
along
that
road,
you
have
the
medium
in
the
center.
X
Yes
through
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
believe
the
traffic
signals
were
omitted,
not
erroneously.
It
was
intentional
to
admit
them
in
terms
of
traffic
circulation.
There
is
an
intent
to
have
cross
traffic
from
centennial
into
the
plaza,
as
well
as
we're
having
the
the
the
enhanced
trap,
the
enhanced
corridor
from
bathroom
to
phase
one
we'll
also
be
producing
to
make
sure
we
have
connections
from
centennial
to
the
plaza
as
well,
and
those
will
all
be
done
through
the
site
plan
process.
X
G
Okay,
great
and
my
second
question
is
like
for
phase
one
personally,
I
wish
phase
two
and
phase
three
could
all
be
built
at
the
same
time,
because
we
need
housing
and
we
need
apartments
so
badly
right.
But
anyway,
I
like
the
development
like
from
what
I
see
and
so
for
phase
one
like
swiss,
chalet
and
harvey's
can
stay
there
right
from
the
concept
plan.
G
When
you
do
phase
two
and
three
where
the
boys
and
girls
clubs
are
and
the
sukira
is
at
the
restaurant
right
there,
what
happens
with
swiss
chalet
and
harvey
harvey's?
Can
that
stay
there
when,
like
in
the
25
year
time
frame
when
phase
three
is
built?
Can
there
still
be
two
restaurants
right
there
on
the
south
portion,
southeast
portion
of
the
property.
X
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
through
you.
I
I
believe
the
intent
is
to
maintain
as
many
of
the
commercial
tenants
as
possible
as
long
as
they're
willing
to
stay
and
they
either,
if
they're,
whether
or
not
they're
accommodating
the
same
space
or
new
space.
That
will
be
something
that
will
be
discussed
with
these
tenants,
but
the
for
now
there
are
our
our
client
is,
is
intent
on
honoring
these
leases
and
whether
or
not
the
users
want
to
stay
or
not.
W
Thank
you,
and
through
you,
just
done
something
minor.
To
respond
to
the
question
from
a
zoning
perspective,
the
applicant
is
not
currently
proposing
to
rezone
kind
of
the
portion
of
the
property
where
the
food
basics
is
and
in
front
of
that
out
to
bath
roads.
So
the
existing
permissions
for
commercial
uses
there
are
proposed
to
be
retained.
T
T
X
J
Y
Hi
good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Councilor
hutchinson!
So,
typically
we
don't
have
like
a
target
market.
We
try
to
provide
inclusive
communities.
So
if
a
single
mom
with
a
child
wanted
to
come
and
live
in
our
community,
we're
more
than
open
to
that
we're
open
to
students,
we're
open
to
young
professionals
couples
so
again,
like
we
don't
really
target
anyone
specific
it's
more.
Anyone,
that's
looking
for
housing,
we're
open
to
you
know
renting
to
them,
and
this
will
be
primarily
a
rental
development.
Y
T
Okay,
so
more
directly,
my
concern
is
with
amenity
space
and
green
space
for
people
and
especially
children,
and
I
didn't
see
a
lot
of
that
there.
Lots
of
parking
lots
of
you
know,
there's
a
good
side
of
this,
and
I
recognize
that
and
lots
of
residential
units,
but
the
closest
green
space
is
across
the
road
and
like
so
one
of
my
questions
is:
do
you
own
that
green
space.
Y
X
So
you
can
see,
as
miss
powder
showed
you
there's
there's.
We
can
see
a
little
cluster
of
trees
towards
the
the
right
side
of
the
building.
That
is
intended
to
be
outdoor
amenity
space
and
there
will
be
a
swimming
pool
included
as
part
of
that
as
well
and
in
the
future
phases
we're
going
to
have
similar
types
of
outdoor
amenities,
space
as
well
like
and
then
as
well.
There's
also
consideration
potentially
for
balconies
patios
as
well
for
each
individual
unit
as
we
go
through
the
site
plan
process.
V
Thank
you,
and
through
you
vice
chair,
just
two
points
of
clarification.
There
is
actually
a
really
good
plan
within
the
public
meeting
report.
It's
on
page
229.
It's
exhibit
I
and
it
caught.
It's
called
the
conceptual
land
use
plan
and
it
lays
out
areas
that
are
residential,
commercial
and
open
green
space.
V
So
it's
clearly
outlining
on
the
property
where,
where
this
space
is
kind
of
currently
being
contemplated,
and
in
addition
to
that,
this
application
is
not
seeking
a
reduction
to
the
amenity
area.
That's
currently
within
our
zoning
bylaws,
so
18.5
square
meters
per
unit
has
not
been
sought
to
be
reduced
as
part
of
this
application.
T
T
Not
sure
that
it
was
okay,
so
that's
why
I
asked
it
sort
of
again:
okay
and
I'm
really
raising
this
for
staff.
I,
like
I,
I
look
there
and
there's
like
green
space
with
swimming
pools
supposed
to
go,
but
I
see
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
getting
living
in
that
area
and
I'm
wondering
what
it's
going
to
be
like
to
go
there.
That's
my
that's
my
concern
and
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that.
W
T
T
Z
Z
He
has
in
fact
included
some
affordable
housing
in
a
previous
development,
just
never
in
the
williamsville
area.
So
so
I
was
rightfully
corrected
on
that
and
I'm
I'm
curious
about
this
particular
project,
which
is
very
ambitious
and
I
think
overall,
a
an
interesting
design,
but
our
official
plan
unfortunately
doesn't
say:
thou
shalt
do
15
of
affordable
housing.
Z
It
says
you
should
do
that
and
very
few
developers
actually
do.
Is
there
a
consideration
for
creating
some,
affordable
housing
and
affordable
being
the
terrible
definition
of
80
percent
of
market
value
which
isn't
affordable
to
most
people,
but
is?
Is
there
indeed
a
plan
to
offer
some
affordable
housing.
Y
G
Since
canada,
like
you,
were
able
to
do
this
in
canada,
I
think
the
units
that
counselor
neil
was
talking
about
at
other
patri
developments
in
kingston
that
do
have
some
affordable
units.
I
think
it's.
If
my
memory
is
right,
right
is
the
the
apartment
building
right
across
the
street
on
armstrong,
road
right
right
across
the
street
from
this
phase,
one
on
armstrong
road.
I
think
some
of
those
units
might
be
you
know
lower
price
than
average,
and
maybe
also
at
blackburn
use
just
going
by
memory
right
so
can
can
we
try
for
this
phase?
Y
That
is
definitely
something
that
we
are
intending
to
do,
for
example,
at
the
2274
princess
street
project.
That's
the
one
where
we
recently
got
100
units
approved
under
cmhc,
mli
select,
and
so
this
is
something
that,
like
this,
we're
passionate
about
housing
in
general
and
providing
and
working
with
cmhc
and
kind
of
providing
those
numbers
that
they
need
is
kind
of.
Definitely
something
that
we
do.
We
intend
to
do
yes,
okay,.
G
Thank
you
and
for
the
other
units
that
will
not
be
like
below
cmhc
right
with
the
other
units
be
more
like.
Would
you
call
them
like
they're
gonna
be
more
mid-range?
You
know
how
some
apartments
have
been
built
that
I
would
consider
luxury,
because
when
I
call
them
to
see
what
the
rents
are
thinking
about,
my
parents
along
the
line
there,
like
you
said
of
that
one
in
canada,
that's
supposed
to
be
sixteen
hundred
dollars.
G
G
Okay,
great-
and
I
would
imagine
like
these-
are
six
stories
right
and
then
some
of
some
of
them
in
phase
two
and
three
are
even
taller
right
like
I
think
that
it
says
12
stories
and
other
ones
are
20
stories,
so
they
would
have
even
the
six
stories.
Would
they
have
a
view
if
you're
one
of
the
south
units
like
facing
south?
Can
you
see
the
lake
at
the
six
stories?
Will
they
be
able
to
see
the
lake.
Y
G
G
I
just
wanted
to
know
because
yeah
definitely
you're
close
to
the
lake.
You
have
all
the
flat
land
of
the
prison
system
to
the
south.
So
there's
nothing
really
blocking
the
view
and
not
that
I
want
a
luxury
rate
to
go
with
if
you
can
see
the
lake,
but
I
think
it
would
be
a
nice
view
for
the
top
floors
and
all
of
the
three
phases
that
are
going
to
be
built.
Thank
you.
A
Are
there
any
other
questions
all
right,
seeing
none
we'll
bring
this
public
meeting
to
a
close,
thank
you
and
we're
going
to
move
into
our
business
meeting
at
this
point.
So
I'll
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
ask
for
a
mover
to
approve
the
agenda,
move
her
into
secondary,
moved
by
council
sanic
seconded
by
councillor
neal,
all
those
in
favor.
Oh
sorry,
I
see
the
clerk
waving
at
me.
I
must
have
done
something
wrong.
Sorry,.