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Planning Committee meeting from May 6, 2021. For full meeting agenda, please visit: https://bit.ly/3xTI7Ip
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A
This
business
practice
has
been
in
place
for
a
number
of
years
and
is
received
by
the
applicants
as
efficient
customer
service
and
effective
use
of
committee
time.
Please
note
that
staff
use
discretion
in
determining
if
an
application
can
be
a
combined
public
meeting
comprehensive
report
to
expedite
the
approval
process.
A
A
The
decision
of
the
council
of
the
corporation
of
the
city
of
kingston
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal,
but
that
person
or
public
body
does
not
make
oral
submissions
at
a
public
meeting
or
make
written
submissions
to
the
city
of
kingston
before
the
bylaw
is
passed.
That
person
or
public
body
is
not
entitled
to
appeal
the
decision.
A
B
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
jennifer
wood.
I'm
a
land
use
planner
with
photon
planning
and
design
here
this
evening
presenting
the
applications
before
you.
They
include
official
plan
and
zoning
by
law,
amendment
and
also
draft
plan
of
subdivision
for
998
highway
15
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
tamarac
rito
2
corporation
next
slide.
Please.
B
Thank
you.
So
this
is
an
aerial
image
showing
site
location
and
some
of
the
surrounding
contexts
and
uses
the
property
is
located
located
in
the
east
end
of
the
city
between
highway
15
and
the
great
cataractway
river.
The
surrounding
area
is
primarily
residential,
although
additional
mixes
abuses
are
have
been
introduced.
More
recently,
the
more
established
greenwood
park
subdivision
is
located
to
the
east
on
the
other
side
of
highway
15..
B
The
property's
footprint
was
effectively
expanded
through
filling
along
the
shoreline,
and
this
was
done
mainly
to
accommodate
an
access
road
which
you
can
see
there
today
and
also
in
order
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
loading
pure
to
transport,
quarry
materials
off-site
and
actually,
if
you've
been
to
the
site.
There
are
remnants
of
that
pier
that
exists
today
in
the
northwest
corner.
B
So
quarry
activities
continued
through
the
late
1900s
until
2004
when
quarry
operations
ceased
and
since
then
the
site
has
mostly
looked
like
how
it
does
in
this
aerial
image.
There's
a
substantial
rock
wall
from
previous
quarry
activities,
which
frames
the
east
side
of
the
site
along
highway,
15.
and
also
the
north
property
line.
B
For
years,
the
deepest
portion
of
the
quarry
was
filled
with
water.
You
can
see
that
in
this
aerial
image
it
was
known
as
the
quarry
pond
and
in
2020
the
pond
was
was
drained
contrary
to
popular
speculation.
There
was
no
car,
no
no
toyota
at
the
bottom.
Sadly
well,
not
sadly,
but
the
site
is
17
hectares
in
size.
It's
got
about
100
or
570
meters
of
frontage,
on
highway
15
and
about
475
meters
of
frontage
along
the
river,
which
forms
part
of
the
redo
canal.
Unesco
world
heritage
site
next
slide.
B
Please
now
we
we
don't
typically
tr
like
to
linger
too
much
on
the
heavy
duty
policy
stuff.
But
I
think
there
is
some
important
policy
context
here,
that's
important
to
emphasize,
because
it
really
led
into
the
overall
concept
for
this
site
and
a
lot
of
the
background
planning
work.
So
this
the
properties
in
the
redo
community
secondary
plan
and
is
designated
currently
a
special
study
area,
which
is
that
pinky
purple
color
and
then
there
are
portions
that
are
also
designated
environmental
protection,
which
is
the
green
and
the
special
study
area
designation.
B
It
anticipated
a
future
use
of
the
lands.
One
operation
came
to
an
end.
It
didn't
specify
exactly
what,
but
basically
the
policies
say
that,
in
support
of
future
development
of
this
special
policy
area,
the
op
directs
that
a
detailed
land
you
study
needs
to
be
undertaken
by
the
proponent
in
order
to
do
a
number
of
things,
but
generally
speaking,
to
establish
appropriate
new
uses
to
determine
the
location
and
type
of
future
roads
and
also
to
confirm
the
environmental
protection
boundary
through
site-specific
environmental
impact
study
work
and
this
land.
B
If
and
when
those
lands
do
undergo
their
own
neighborhood
design
process,
and
so
a
number
of
concepts
and
options
were
developed
through
the
land
use
study,
it's
its
own
separate
study
and
document
that
was
submitted
in
support
of
these
applications
and
really
fed
into
the
overall
concept
for
the
quarry
subdivision
next
slide.
Please.
B
The
intent
of
the
applications
for
you
this
evening
are
to
permit
the
redevelopment
of
the
former
quarry
site
with
the
residential
subdivision
and
effectively
implement
the
findings
of
the
land.
You
study,
the
design
of
the
subdivision,
really
started
with
the
preservation
of
open
space
along
the
western
boundary
of
the
lands,
as
well
as
consideration
of
these
significant
quarry
walls
presented
present
on
the
east
and
north
side,
the
site
boundaries
and,
like
I
said
before,
the
the
op
already
identifies
the
environmental
protection
area
along
the
river.
B
But
it
was
really
important
that,
right
from
the
beginning,
an
eis
was
completed
to
really
ground
truth,
those
areas
and
delineate
exactly
the
extent
of
that
area.
So
that
was
really
the
first
step
was
getting
an
ecologist
out
there
and
basically
identifying
the
extent
of
that
environmental
protection
area.
And
then
the
result
is
a
1.4
hectare.
B
B
You
know
if,
if
you've
seen
the
site
and
you've
seen
the
wall,
you'll
know
that
it
extends
pretty
much
the
majority
of
the
frontage
along
highway
15
and
also
extends
along
much
of
the
north
property
line,
which
essentially
means
that
site
connectivity
to
highway,
15
and
riverview
to
the
north
is
extremely.
Nice
is
extremely
limited.
C
B
B
The
middle
row
shows
some
samples
of
semi
detached
dwellings
and
then
the
third
row
illustrates
some
samples
of
of
their
townhouse
designs.
Maximum
building
height
is
supposed
to
be
two
stories
next
slide.
Please,
the
next
few
slides
I'm
going
to
take
you
through
some
renderings
and
images
that
were
prepared
because
they
appreciate
that,
with
such
a
unique
and
challenging
site,
it
can
be
hard
to
visualize
how
all
of
this
will
actually
fit
into
the
landscape.
B
C
B
This
is
an
aerial
view
from
highway
15.
Now
it's
not
it's
sort
of
to
give
you
an
overall
sense,
but
it's
not
necessarily
a
realistic
view
from
pedestrian
level
scale.
It's
a
little
bit
higher,
so
you
can
actually
get
a
sense
of
what
this
looks
like.
So
this
is
looking
from
highway
15
towards
the
river.
C
B
B
B
This
is
a
conceptual
view
along
the
linear
park,
trail
looking
north,
so
this
is
as
if
you're
kind
of
in
the
southwest
portion
of
the
site
looking
north.
If
you
were
head
to
head
towards
that
proposed
park,
so
you
can
see
dwellings
on
the
right-hand
side,
so
just
as
the
site
kind
of
slopes
east
to
west,
it
also
kind
of
slopes
south
to
north.
B
So
this
is
the
portion
that's
going
to
experience
the
most
significant
retaining
and
then,
as
you
head
north
along
this
path
towards
the
park
that
retaining
wall
will
get
smaller
and
smaller
to
the
point
where
those
lots
will
effectively
back
onto
that
park.
Space
almost
at
the
same
level
grade
and
then
to
the
left
would
be
the
environmental
protection
area
that
would
be
maintained
in
its
current
condition.
B
B
B
B
B
We
would
still
be
required
to
provide
a
six-meter
setback
to
the
garage
space
to
make
sure
that,
in
addition
to
garage
parking
that
each
unit,
each
dwelling
would
have
surface
parking
in
the
driveway,
so
you
could
basically
have
a
recessed
portion
of
the
garage
and
then
have
the
nicer
part
of
the
front
face
of
the
dwelling.
Come
a
little
bit
closer
to
the
street.
B
Next
slide,
please!
So
before
I
before.
I
conclude
my
presentation,
I
apologize
if
this
was
a
little
lengthy,
but
there's
there's
a
lot
going
on
here.
I
did
just
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
feedback
we've
received
to
date,
so
as
part
of
this
process,
we
did
have
a
public
open
house
on
april
7th
special
thanks
to
the
city
for
facilitating
that
session
and
to
all
those
members
of
the
public
who
attended
it.
B
So
it
was
a
great
opportunity
to
to
have
a
bit
of
that
back
and
forth
with
members
of
the
community,
and
this
slide
kind
of
just
summarizes
some
of
the
high
level
themes
of
questions
and
concerns
that
we
received
at
that
open
house.
We
did
receive
a
number
of
questions
around
whether
the
subdivision
is
too
dense
and
whether
introducing
this
many
units
into
the
community
will
be
supported
by
the
existing
transportation
network
and
schools
and
other
similar.
B
Excuse
me-
and
there
were
also
questions
about
how
the
shoreline
buffer
area
will
be
truly
protected
in
the
long
term
if
a
path
and
a
park
are
located
beside
it.
So
very,
very
good
question
there.
We
heard
also
questions
around
the
unesco
world
heritage
site
and
what
that
means
and
how
this
proposal
will
ensure
the
protection
of
that
cultural
heritage
value
moving
forward.
B
There
were
also,
I
think
there
was
one
question
around
how
the
development
may
be
impacted
by
train
noise,
existing
train
noise
as
well.
There
were
questions
around
how
how
the
development
will
be
serviced
so
questions
around
water
and
sanitary
service
for
the
development
as
well.
There
were
questions
asked
about
the
long-term
stability
of
the
rock
wall
and
what
safety
measures
will
be
employed
to
prevent.
B
Oh
sorry,
there
were
also
questions
around
blasting
activities
that
have
been
ongoing
on
the
site
and
then
finally,
there
were
also
questions
about
whether
a
public
boat
launch
for
motorized
vessels
could
be
considered
here.
So
this
is.
This
is
sort
of
a
just
a
summary
of
some
of
the
themes
of
what
we
heard.
B
A
C
A
E
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
chair
notice
of
this
public
meeting
was
given
in
accordance
with
the
planning
act.
Notice
was
provided
by
advertisement
in
the
forms
of
signs
posted
on
the
subject
site
20
days
in
advance
of
this
public
meeting.
In
addition,
notices
were
sent
by
mail
to
170
property
owners
within
120
meters
of
the
subject
property.
A
courtesy
notice
was
also
placed
in
the
kingston
wig
standard
on
april
27th.
E
To
date,
we've
received
16
pieces
of
written
correspondence
regarding
the
application.
A
copy
of
these
written
submissions
has
been
provided
to
the
committee
through
the
clerk's
office,
and
these
are
included
in
this
evening's
agenda
and
addendum
package
staff
in
planning
and
other
city
departments
are
still
completing
their
review
of
this
application.
A
F
I'll,
just
kick
it
off
with
a
few
questions.
I
know
some
of
them
were
addressed
in
the
presentation
which
I
think
was
helpfully
long.
Actually,
so
I'm
glad
you
went
into
the
detail,
you
did
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
talk
a
bit
more
about
the
wall,
because
I
think
that's
going
to
come
up
many
times.
F
B
So
the
the
question
of
of
ownership
is
still
somewhat
to
be
determined.
The
intent
is
that
the
rock
wall
at
this
point
would
actually
be
owned
by
individual
property
owners
who
back
onto
the
wall,
so
I
mean
I'll,
take
a
quick
step
back
just
in
terms
of
of
the
wall
itself.
So
early
on,
a
rock
stability
review
was
undertaken
by
patterson
group,
an
engineering
firm
with
specialty
and
this
kind
of
thing
to
assess
the
current
condition
of
the
rock
face
and
and
they've.
B
They
have
experience
in
this
and
basically
provided
a
number
of
recommendations
for
how
to
not
only
stabilize
the
rock
face
before
people
live
here
and
also
for
long-term
maintenance
and
safety
purposes.
So
there
are
a
number
of
recommendations
you
know
scaling
to
get
rid
of
any
loose
bedrock,
there's
going
to
actually
be
a
minimum
safety
easement
at
the
bottom
of
the
wall
that
basically
increased
setbacks
and
an
area
of
no
touch
in
any
backyards
that
back
onto
the
wall.
B
B
That
would
allow
for
and
there's
also
essentially
a
bench
that
would
be
integrated
into
the
wall
to
allow
for
long-term
maintenance.
At
this
point
we
are
intending
for
it
to
be
privately
owned,
but
we
are
researching
options
with
the
city
for
for
ensuring
that
that
long-term
ownership
makes
sense
and
is
safe.
F
Yeah
thanks,
I
appreciate
that
because
I
see
it
as
a
fairly
tremendous
challenge,
actually,
which
is
unfortunate,
because
I
think
this
project
is
really
ambitious
and
it's
good
infill,
and
there
are
many
reasons
why
I
like
it.
But
I'll
save
my
comments
just
and
ask
questions
for
the
for
the
moment.
I
guess
what
I'm
wondering
is:
does
this
developer
or
are
there
best
practices
from
other
developers
around
private
ownership
of
walls?
F
B
This
is
such
a
unique
instance,
but
what
I
can
say
is
it's
not
the
first
form
or
quarry:
that's
been
redeveloped
with
subdivision,
so
we're
not
breaking
new
grounds
completely
so
to
speak,
but
we
are
in
the
process
of
looking
at
best
practices.
Consulting
other
municipalities
who've
been
in
this
situation
before
understanding
what
all
the
options
are
and
then
working
with
staff
to
come
up
with
the
best
option,
moving
forward
with
ownership.
F
I
think
that's
reasonable.
It
is
a
process,
but
I
can
speak
for
myself
only
saying
that
those
type
of
details
will
be
very
important
to
my
consideration
of
approval
or
not
so
I'd
love
to
read
more
when
you
have
that
that
information.
My
final
question
for
now
about
the
wall
is
around
the
grading
of
road.
A
the
southern
road
that
kind
of
enters
into
this
subdivision.
Should
it
go
forward.
Is
it
advisable
that
there
is
only
one
access
point
it
seems
like
that
could
be
a
problem
from
a
public
safety
perspective.
F
B
Yeah,
no,
it's
it's
a
good
question
and
one
that
we
spent
some
of
our
very
early
discussions
and
design
looking
at
and
whether
we
looked
at
whether
it's
feasible
to
try
and
bring
one
in
through
riverview
as
well
to
provide
that
secondary
entrance,
but
ultimately
found
that
with
the
grades
of
the
site,
the
single
location
that
is
proposed
is
the
only
feasible
and
also
accessible
location.
So
accessibility
is
also
an
important
consideration
here,
because
I
mean
we
can
we
can
put
a
steep
road.
B
We
can
engineer
a
steep
road
just
about
anywhere,
but
once
you
get
over
five
percent,
it's
no
longer
accessible,
which
is
for
us
critical
to
this
development
so
where
the
road
is
proposed
along
that
south
property
line
gives
enough.
Just
enough
run
that
we
get
the
low
enough
slope
that
we
need
to
be
accessible.
B
We've
had
ongoing
discussions
with
engineering
and
fire
department
staff
around.
You
know
safety
and
accessibility
in
the
event
of
an
emergency,
and
what
we
are
proposing
is
an
extra
wide
right-of-way
that
would
accommodate
essentially
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
Like
I'm
more
than
a
sidewalk,
it
would
be
like
a
multi-use
path
along
that
road
that,
in
the
rare
event
of
an
emergency,
could
function
in
a
short-term
measure
as
secondary
emergency
service
access.
So
if
you
had
cars
parked
or
blocked
vehicles,
it
almost
serves
as
like
a
temporary
emergency
service
entrance.
F
G
You
go
there,
you
go
yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
through
you,
and
thanks
to
councillor
kylie
for
raising
those
concerns,
because
those
are
definitely
issues,
and
especially
just
the
overall
density
of
this
development
and
then,
when
you
factor
in
that,
the
only
entrance
in
and
out
is
street
a
that
just
makes.
You
know
it
even
more
problematic
that
it's
this
dense.
I
was
on
planning
committee
back
when
we
had
baxter
subdivision
and
riverview
subdivision,
and
I
share
some
of
the
public's
comments
when
they're
asking
about
houses
100
to
119.
G
Why
they're
on
like?
Why
they're?
I
share
their
concern
that
we
shouldn't
have
those
houses
on
that
side
right
that
street
b
should
be
a
single
loaded
road.
The
way
that
you
know
further
north
was
cinco
loaded
on
road,
so
you
do
have
houses
the
premium
houses
single.
You
know
family
dwellings,
on
the
east
side
of
street
b.
G
You
know:
why
are
we
having
houses
allowed
on
the
west
side
of
street
b
street
b
should
be
single
loaded
to
make
it
consistent
with
the
other
subdivision
and
also
then
making
sure
better
protection
for
the
epa
area?
And
for
that
open
space
area
too,
because
those
backyards
are
going
to
be
right
on
the
open
space,
are
they
going
to
be
fenced?
You
know,
how
will
we
prevent
those
people
living
in
those
homes
there?
G
You
know
from
going
encroaching
into
the
open
space
right,
always
an
issue,
and
I
you
know
we
had
this
single
voted
road
conversation
at
planning
committee
with
divisions
to
the
north
were
built
out.
I
have
concerns
with
the
roads
for
traffic
calming
for
road
c
and
road
d.
It
looks
like
I
keep
losing
that
because
I've
had
to
for
page
51,
I've
had
to
blow
it
up
so
big
and
then
just
slate
with
the
mouse.
You
lose
everything
so
for
street
d
and
street
c.
G
You
know
how
how
is
are.
Are
we
built
because
those
are
town
homes
right
later,
especially
street
c?
I
don't
know
if
that
helps,
but
for
yeah
street
c
is
the
really
really
long
one,
and
so
are
we
building
it
with
with
speed
humps
built
in?
How
are
we
like
any
sort
of
raised
things?
How
are
we
going
to
prevent
speeding
cars?
G
I'm
last
night
counselor
john
chappelle,
and
I
got
a
huge
email
of
traffic
concerns
and
parking
concerns
in
woodhaven,
which
is
very
tightly
squeezed
in
roads
and
traffic
calming
parking.
Actually,
I
should
probably
ask
these
questions
one
at
a
time
I
forgot
to
leave
miss
wood.
Can
can
you
like
answer
any
of
the
questions
I
have
and
then
I'll
just
go
one
at
a
time.
I
suppose.
B
Yes,
thank
you.
I
have
been
making
notes,
so
I
will
try
to
tackle
the
questions
that
you
have
asked
so
yeah.
I
think
I
think
both
of
your
comments
and
questions
around
you
know
number
of
units
and
and
the
safety
around
a
single
entrance
is
something
that
will
investigate
further.
The
lands
to
the
south,
which
are
part
of
the
special
study
area,
are
not
the
same
ownership
as
this
developer,
but
we
can
potentially
investigate
access
through
that
site
and
providing
a
second
entrance
there.
C
B
B
And
if
you
it's,
it's
an
interesting
read
of
those
policies
in
the
background
because
it
actually
contemplated
a
single
loaded,
parkway,
basically
along
the
shoreline.
If
you
look
back
at
that
policy
context-
and
that
was
really
part
of
the
the
process
of
our
land,
you
study
was
was
digging
into
the
history
of
the
rideau
community
and
that
policy
background
and
kind
of
how
policies
from
pittsburgh
township
were
carried
forward
into
the
new
official
plan
and,
yes,
that
those
policies
considered
a
single
loaded,
parkway
collector
parkway
along
the
cataract
way
river.
B
It
also
contemplated
a
village
center
and
a
new
urbanist
design,
which
would
accommodate
new
municipal
offices,
but
a
lot
of
that
just
didn't,
didn't
transpire,
so
we're
kind
of
in
this
this
place,
where
we've
got
these
lingering
policies
that
you
know
aren't
necessarily
fully
relevant
today,
but
in
recognizing
there
was
a
previous
direction.
We've
included
portions
of
this
street
that
are
single
loaded
where
we've
got
two
park
blocks
proposed
and
and
yes,
portions,
that
are
double
loaded
with
residential
use.
B
I
think
certainly
based
on
your
comments
and
also
comments.
We've
received
from
the
public
potential
future
encroachments
on
the
epa
land
needs
to
be
investigated
anyway,
and
how
that
will
be
addressed
because
you
know
we
are
we're
trying
to
achieve
a
waterfront
path
here,
consistent
with
official
plan
policy
and
the
waterfront
master
plan,
while
also
balancing
the
need
to
preserve
that
critical
ribbon
of
life.
B
They're
kind
of
in
the
same
location,
so
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to,
and
I
think
I
think
the
city
too
once
they
assume
those
lands
will
have
to
look
at
in
more
detail.
But
yes
appreciate
appreciate
the
comments
and
I
think,
encroachments
and
and
protecting
the
ep
area
from
both
dwellings,
that
back
onto
it
and
also
users
of
the
park
space
is
something
that's
going
to
have
to
be
considered
very
carefully.
G
Okay,
great
and
then
what
about
the
traffic
calming,
then
if
we
start
looking
at
a
street
c
and
street
d
or
even
street
a
so,
I
don't
think,
there's
gonna
be
stop
signs
along
there.
So
I
can
see
speeding
activity
is
going
to
be
pretty
prevalent
on
street
b
yeah.
Look.
How
long
street
b
is
in
street
c
like
that
is
oh
and
all
the
stunt
driving
we
see
nowadays.
B
I
think
it's
through
the
chair,
that's
something
that
we
that
we'll
look
at
those
are
that
we
consider
at
the
detail
design
stage.
But
I
acknowledge
that
you
know
this
is
the
road
network
we're
proposing
now
and
it's
something
that
we
need
to
consider
at
this
point
in
time,
which
I
kind
of
alluded
to
before,
where
my
road
design
in
this
subdivision
is
constrained
by
the
very
challenging
topography
in
providing
road
sections
and
long
enough
runs
that
we
have
the
lowest
possible
slope
for
accessibility
purposes.
B
E
G
I
see
okay,
thank
you
and
then
so
here
you
have
the
town
homes.
Is
there
gonna,
be
any
room
for
parking
on
the
street
and
is
the
parking
going
to
the
person
who
wrote
this
letter
last
night
about
woodhaven
talked
about
the
town
homes
in
cataract
way
north
behind,
where
chapters
used
to
be
and
ellsmere
avenue
like
in
there
and
where
it's
got
the
cutouts.
G
So
it's
you
know
room
for
three
cars,
maybe
to
park
on
the
street
in
front
of
the
town
homes,
because
I
guess
parking
for
the
town
homes
themselves.
The
homeowners
would
be
along
like
a
back
alley.
You
said:
is
that
what
you're,
proposing
or
if
they
don't
have
a
garage
in
front
of
each
town
home?
Do
they?
Is
it
parking
at
the
back
or
how?
How
is
that
going
to
work?
G
B
Through
the
chair,
it's
going
to
be
a
tricky
grading
exercise
for
the
civil
engineers,
but
the
intent
is
to
have
front
loaded,
driveways
and
garages
for
these
townhomes
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
townhouses
were
proposed
in
this
location
as
opposed
to
sorry
why
some
they're,
semi-detached
dwellings,
so
two
side
by
side
as
opposed
to
row.
Houses
is
because
we
needed
to
break
up
the
built
form
to
to
actually
get
down
the
grade,
because,
having
that
having
a
row
of
townhouses
wouldn't
sit
into
that
slope
very
well.
G
Okay
and
then
is
there
going
to
be
room
on
the
street
for
park
like
for
cars
to
park,
or
would
that
not
be
any
room
for
parked
cars?
And
then,
if
there's
no
room
for
parked
cars,
where
would
visitors
park
or
is
it
like?
Is
the
driveway
just
gonna
be
one
car
only
and
one
car
in
the
garage
how
many
cars
can
park
on
the
on
the
driveway.
B
G
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
for
trees
being
like
street
trees
being
planted.
Obviously,
like
the
single
detached
homes
can
have
a
street
tree.
Is
there
and
you
did
mention
street
trees
in
your
presentation?
So
if
there's
gonna
be
enough
room
in
front
yards
to
still
have
street
trees,
even
the
row
home
or
no
sorry,
the
semi-detached
homes.
B
H
G
Thank
you
and
for
the
dark,
green,
open
space
area
that
you
have
right
now
are
all
the
trees
being
left
alone
that
might
be
in
there.
I
know
there's
not
that
many
trees-
it's
not
like
it's
woods
right
now,
but
are
all
the
trees
being
left
alone,
because
I
I
saw
this
one
letter
that
said
that
the
entire
area
is
being
cleared
so
right
now,
like
are
the
trees
in
that
designated
open
space
zone
being
left
alone.
B
So
there
there
has
been
some
ongoing
clearing,
as
the
developer
has
been
prepping
the
site,
but
anything
within
the
like
the
ecologists
came
out
and
specifically
marked
impact.
The
environmental
protection
area
and,
in
fact,
prior
to
any
site,
works
blasting.
Clearing
turtle.
Fencing
was
installed
to
prevent
any
turtles
from
coming
into
the
clearing
area,
so
that
area
has
been
kept
untouched
and
that's
also
per
the
direction
of
parks.
Canada,
because
they
want
to
see
it
maintained
in
its
current
natural
state
and
actually
become
further
vegetated
in
the
future.
B
G
Okay,
thank
you,
and
I
saw
a
letter
this
week
from
the
crca,
so
I'm
really
happy
to
see
that
they've
been
working
hard
on.
You
know
on
comments
back
and
forth
in
conjunction
with
parks,
canada.
That
gives
me
confidence
that
the
epa
area
will
be.
You
know
as
the
maximum
protection
given
to
the
epa
epa
area,
because
I
do
want
it
protected.
I
know
that
the
public
boat
launch
that
parks,
canada
has
said
no
to
motorized
boats,
but
I
just
want
to
put
on
the
record.
G
I
have
a
big
concern,
even
if
there
is
going
to
be
a
boat
launch
for
kayaks
or
paddle
boards.
How
then,
will
the
rest
of
the
epa
be
preserved
right,
because
once
you
give
people
access
to
the
waterfront
and
like
even
if
it's
kayaks
that's
coming?
Oh,
I
don't
want
to
have
to
bring
it
all
the
way
to
my
garage
every
time.
G
Maybe
I'll
just
leave
it
here
next
to
the
boat
launch
and
then
the
next
person,
okay,
I'll,
try
to
tie
mine
up
next
and
then
suddenly,
what
you
you
know,
a
pretty
defined,
boat,
launch
area
or
viewing
park
area
gets
really
expanded
out,
which
then
gives
no
protection
to
the
epa
right
or
little
trails
start
to
go
down
to
the
water.
So
I
just
want
this
noted
for
the
minutes.
G
G
Yes,
if
the
epa
is
just
too
sensitive
along
here,
yeah
and
again,
I
guess
just
one
other
thing
is,
I
don't
know
very
much
about
quarries
and
you
know
then
building
on
top,
so
where
the
water
was
miss
wood
right
that
you
can
still
see
in
on
google
maps
that
water
has
all
been
drained.
Now
is
like
that's
right
right
and
then
is:
are
there
any
natural
wells
like?
G
Are
some
of
these
homes
going
to
have
to
have
two
or
three
sump
pumps
going
at
all
time,
to
you
know,
keep
to
keep
their
basements
dry
and
their
backyards
dry
they
are,
was
that
cory
ever
naturally
fed?
Naturally,
you
know
fed
springs
in
in
the
springtime
or
anything
like
are
the
basements
going
to
be
dry.
B
G
All
right
thanks,
I
I
do
know
some
houses
in
in
the
west,
in
the
catwoods
area
that
used
to
have
springs
under
them
and
filled
and
diverted,
and
they
have
three
sump
pumps
going
all
the
time
and
the
house
is
very
small,
so
I
do
anyway,
I'm
not
a
hydroengineer.
Hopefully
that
won't
be
the
case
with
this
subdivision.
So,
okay,
those
are
my
questions.
Thank
you
very
much
for
answering.
G
I
Thanks
and
I
I
can't
imagine,
there's
too
many
questions
left
after
council,
real
sanic
and
councilor
kylie
went
with
that
thorough,
thorough
review,
but
I
did
wonder
about-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
ms
roberto.
But
do
we
ever
contemplate
the
use
of
emergency
access
roads
that
are
gated
so
that
they
don't
necessarily
need
to
meet
the
accessibility
criteria
but
can
be
opened
up
for
emergency
services
if
they're
needed.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thanks
for
that
question,
councillor
hill,
that's
definitely
something
that
I
can
take
back
to
our
engineering
and
transportation
services
group
to
inquire
with
them
a
little
further
about
that.
But
to
my
understanding,
that
certainly
is
something
that
we
could
contemplate,
whether
whether
it's
feasible
on
this
site
or
not.
I
I'm
not
sure,
but
that's
something
that
I'm
happy
to
take
back
to
those
those
groups
to
consider
further
in
their
technical
review
of
of
the
application,
which
is
ongoing.
I
A
J
J
J
B
Through
the
chair
council
could
could
deny
this
application.
The
current
zoning
permits
the
former
quarry
use,
which
was
abandoned
and
or
ceased
in
2004
and
there's
currently
not
a
license
for
it.
So
in
essence,
there
are
really
there's
really
no
development
potential
right
now,
based
on
the
current
zoning.
J
Right
so
my
my
my
point
here
is
follows
from
my
second
question,
and
that
is-
and
this
is
for
the
sake
of
the
public,
who
have
submitted
many
comments.
It
doesn't
follow
that
outside
certain
infrastructure
requirements
for
development
that
there's
a
multiplicity
of
planning
proposals
possible
on
this
on
this
site
like
this
is
not
here's.
The
only
site
proposal
that
we
can
do
here
and
not
the
only
requirement
that
the
city
can
make
as
a
as
a
valuation
of.
C
J
A
E
Thank
you,
and
through
mr
chair,
so
this
site,
as
well
as
the
site
to
the
south
of
it.
The
lands
that
are
owned
by
axion
development
are
currently
designated
in
the
official
plan
as
a
special
study
area.
That
requires
further
study
to
be
in
order
to
determine
how
to
best
utilize
them
moving
forward,
and
so
the
official
plan
indicates
that
indicates
a
range
of
land
uses
that
should
be
contemplated
in
in
that
land.
J
Enough
and
my
my
purpose
of
asking
those
questions
is
simply
to
in
making
that
point.
Is
that
the
signal
to
the
public
and
staff
that
any
number
of
possible
uses-
the
quote?
The
staff
number
is
possible
on
this
site.
I'm
not
saying
I'm
against
this
development
hole
as
bolus
or
anything
like
that,
but
it
does
open
up
a
range
of
possibilities,
unlike
situations
where
we
have
zoning
and
certain
things
are
allowed
and
the
amendments
are
somewhat
more
marginal
that
are
requested.
So
I
have
a
question
here.
J
J
C
J
Routes
and
the
like
now,
we
know
that
the
minimal
density
for
making
transit
even
minimally
possible
is
37
and
a
half
units
per
hectare.
Now
you
possibly
can't
do
it
with
this
building
forms
all
these
building
forms
or
in
the
density
they're
shown.
So
would
there
be
any
consideration
that
increasing.
B
B
B
So
I
think,
in
light
of
that,
we
were
really
trying
to
achieve
as
short
of
a
or
a
low
of
built
form
as
possible,
so
that
views
from
the
cataract
way
river,
which
is
the
unesco
world
heritage
site,
would
be
views
of
dwellings
would
be
screened
as
much
as
possible
possible
by
existing
vegetation
and
we've
had
discussions
with
parks,
canada
and
there's.
There
seems
to
be
support
for
that,
as
opposed
to
a
taller
building.
B
We
are
like,
I
said
before,
like
very
much
constrained
by
the
topography
of
the
site
and
the
physical
challenges
of
it.
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
plan
itself,
we've
tried
to
you
know,
lay
it
out
as
efficiently
as
possible,
while
still
providing
a
range
of
uses
and
and
also
recognizing
some
of
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
ensuring
compatibility
with
those
neighborhoods
which
are
in
this
location,
predominantly
single
and
semi-detached
dwellings.
J
B
Yeah
it's
through
the
chair.
It's
something
that
we
can.
We
can
look
at.
I
think
the
challenge
will
be
that
the
site
slopes
towards
highway
15,
so
a
taller,
mid
or
high-rise
residential
building
would
likely
be
quite
visible
from
the
unesco
world
heritage
site.
But
it's
something
that
we
will
certainly
consider.
J
B
Yes,
through
the
chair,
the
proposed
epa
zone
and
buffer
is
reflective
of
the
recommendations
of
the
environmental
impact
study.
It
has
been
reviewed
now
by
cataract
and
conservation
authority
as
well
as
parks.
Canada,
they've
got
sort
of
a
joint
review
committee,
which
is
the
rito
waterway
development
review
team
and
they
have
reviewed
and
are
supportive
of
the
proposed
30
meter
setback.
B
So
I
think,
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
really
thoughtful
considerations
of
the
detailed
design
stage
of
what
that
interface
of
the
park
block
and
the
ep
area
looks
like
whether
that's
a
physical
barrier,
signage
throughout.
That's
both
educational
in
terms
of
the
unesco
world
heritage
site
and
the
vegetated
area,
and
the
ecological
significance
of
the
area.
B
J
B
B
C
J
Master
plan
subcommittee
and
in
some
places
the
public
wouldn't
know
that
they
could
get
access
to
the
trail
in
this
case
or
lands,
and
there
are
boardwalks
built
through
epa
lands.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
ascertain
that
we
can
that
the
public
will
in
an
alerting
staff
that
I'll
be
looking
for.
How
is
the
public
going
to
actually
use
this?
Okay?
J
A
K
K
One
of
the
comments
was
closer
to
the
rock
wall.
Potentially
there
could
be
some
high-rises
there
or
some
or
some
higher
more
density
buildings,
rather
than
just
row
houses.
So
I
guess
my
question
my
first
question
would
be.
Could
you
provide
some
comments
to
that,
because
it's
like
you're
trying
to
balance
two
different
things?
One
is
people
seem
to
want
less
density
completely
on
that
site,
but
two
is:
it
needs
to
hit
a
certain
threshold
to
access
those
services.
So
it's
a
complicated
question.
I
guess
to
begin
with.
B
B
This
development,
like
I
said
before,
is
23.3
dwelling
units
per
hectare
which,
in
the
rito
community
secondary
plan,
actually
constitutes
low
density.
That's
in
the
low
density
range
when
we
look
at
low
medium
and
high,
and
you
know
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
plan,
it's
it's
a
very
efficient
plan
that
fits
in
sort
of
as
many
units
as
possible,
based
on
the
built
form
that
we're
looking
to
achieve,
which
is
consistent
with
the
surrounding
area
of
riverview
subdivision.
B
So
it
is.
It
is
a
certainly
an
interesting
and
challenging
challenging
interest
to
balance,
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
can
certainly
go
back
and
look
at
and
whether
there
are
opportunities
to
to
increase
increased
density
here.
But
we
are,
like
you
say,
we're
trying
to
to
balance
those
interests.
K
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
I'll,
just
adequate
comment
here,
which
is
that
I
think
with
the
rock
wall
at
the
back.
There
might
be
an
opportunity
there
because,
as
counselor
kylie
asked
there's
a
certain
challenge,
I
believe
with
trying
to
have
that
in
somebody's
backyard
and
then
make
a
private
homeowner
responsible
for
it
when,
if
there's
any
issues
with
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
going
to
be
the
city
that
gets
called,
because
that
usually
seems
to
be
how
these
things
go.
K
Where
a
homeowner
wasn't
aware,
even
if
it's
clearly
stated
in
their
lease
or
their
purchase
agreement,
and
then
when
things
start
to
go
wrong
down
the
road,
it's
everybody
turns
to
the
city.
So
then
it's
taxpayers
as
a
whole.
So
in
that
area,
if
there's
potential
to
do
high
rises
or
or
a
higher
rise
building
in
those
areas
to
increase
density,
if
that
could
be
looked
at,
there
might
be
some
potential
to
kind
of
you
know,
get
two
birds
with
one
stone
there
and
avoid
future
issues.
K
For
my
next
question,
it's
more
around
the
actual
parking
on
the
street,
which
seems
to
be
not
very
available
and
in
most
existing
neighborhoods,
even
if
there's
a
one
spot
in
the
driveway
in
one
spot
in
the
garage.
Let's
be
honest,
a
lot
of
people
fill
their
garage
with
things
other
than
a
vehicle
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
overflow
parking.
K
B
Yeah,
thank
you
counselor
bones,
so
every
dwelling,
like
I
said,
will
include
at
least
two
parking
spaces,
and
there
will
be
certainly,
I
think,
a
certain
amount
of
demand,
as
in,
as
is
the
case
with
any
residential
subdivision
for
for
on-street
parking
for
visitor
parking,
and
I
would
agree,
I
think,
especially
for
for
the
row
house.
Dwellings
on
street
parking
will
be
a
challenge
in
that
there
will
be.
B
K
Okay,
perfect
yeah,
because
in
the
end,
what
what's
a
challenge
for
you
becomes
an
ongoing
operating
concern
for
the
city
itself.
So,
if
approved
as
is
then
what
happens?
Is
it's
city
bylaw?
That's
get
that
gets
called
it's
it's
council
that
gets.
You
know
that
has
to
deal
with
it
once
that
issue's
there,
and
then
you
also
have
to
take
into
account
that
we
have
a
winter
parking
bylaw.
K
B
Thank
you,
and
through
you
and
first
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
any
traffic
conclusions
and
recommendations
of
the
report
certainly
weren't
contingent
on
any
future
upgrades
to
highway
15.
We
acknowledge
there's
significant
challenges
currently
in
the
city's
undertaking,
a
class
ea
to
to
look
at
improvements
and,
as
part
of
this
subdivision,
a
signalized
intersection
is
proposed
at
the
entrance
road,
as
well
as
some
proposed
lane
configurations
and
turning
lanes
to
prevent
cueing
and
further
congestion
on
highway
15..
B
Essentially,
the
traffic
study
concluded
that
you
know
there
are
al
already
significant
challenges
on
highway
15,
but
that
at
peak
hours
this
subdivision
will
make
it
won't
make
it
any
worse
than
it
already
is
like
the
increased
traffic
flows
are
fairly
negligible
in
terms
of
I'd
have
to
go,
get
back
to
you
in
terms
of
how
covid
was
considered,
but
I
know
in
traffic
studies
there
are.
There
are
certain
projections
that
traffic
consultants
use
for
all
kinds
of
off-peak
considerations
where
they
need
to.
You
know
when
they're
conducting
their
study.
B
It
may
be
during,
for
example,
the
summer
summer,
even
or
during
march
break
or
during
periods
where
there
might
not
be
your
typical
traffic
flows
and
they
apply
certain
projections
to
that
to
make
the
results
reflect
a
more
regular
traffic
pattern.
So
I'll
definitely
go
back
to
the
traffic
consultants
and
ensure
that
they
did
apply
some
sort
of
additional
rate
to
take
into
account
regular
traffic
volumes,
because
I
think
I
would
agree.
B
Yeah
coven
would
probably
have
a
pretty
big
impact
on
highway
15
movements,
so
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
make
sure
that
they
did
apply
some
sort
of
some
sort
of
increase
to
their
to
their
stats.
To
consider
that
for
regular
usage,
because
we
are
going
to
eventually
go
back
to
normal
and
covid
will
will
go
away
eventually.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
those
those
counts
are
are
considerate
of
those
future
conditions.
K
B
K
Sorry,
250,
yes,
okay,
so
it's
so
it's
it's
still,
based
on
the
original
thing
that
I
saw
so
assuming
two
cars
per
house,
we're
looking
at
500
cars.
So
what
is
being
stated-
and
this
is
where
the
public
I
believe
is
going
to
be
skeptical-
is
that
500
additional
cars
on
15
during
peak
times
when
it's
already
at
times
at
a
standstill
during
normal
times
are
not
going
to
add
significantly
to
the
problem?
Is?
K
B
Yeah
we
can
certainly
through
the
chair.
We
can
certainly
flesh
that
out
further,
and
I
know
traffic
studies
are
pretty
technical
response.
We
can
provide
additional
details
related
to
that.
I
think.
Certainly,
the
immediately
surrounding
transportation
network
is
going
to
experience,
especially
around
the
new
intersection,
but
I
think
what
they
found.
The
overall
catchment
area
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
isn't
going
to
experience
a
significant
we
can.
We
can
provide
that
additional
information
if
it
wasn't
made
clear
in
the
traffic
impact
study.
K
Okay,
yeah,
because
there's
also
been
some
concern
raised
about
how
close
those
two
intersections
actually
are
together
and
and
what
issues
that
might
create.
So,
even
if
there's
turning
lanes
and
everything
like
that,
I
mean
that
that
main
arterial
road
highway
15
is
fed
into
from
numerous
other
subdivisions.
So
adding
a
brand
new
subdivision
there
and
then
having
another
500
cars.
And
then
it's
I
mean
every
intersection.
You
add
realistically
slows
down
traffic,
so
I
mean
it.
I
I
guess
I
yeah.
K
I
would
like
to
understand
that
more
to
be
able
to
pass
that
information
on
to
the
public,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
is
going
to
have
some
type
of
impact
and
it's
likely
not
going
to
be
a
positive
one
on
traffic
in
the
area.
So
I
appreciate
the
any
information
you
can
provide
further
on
that
or
any
other
consideration
that
that
you
can
take
back
to
to
the
planning
committee
on
this
and
and
your
own
planning
department.
A
Thank
you
very
much
just
a
couple
of
things.
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
in
this
term
of
council
or
the
previous
term
of
council
when
homestead
wanted
to
put
up-
and
I
always
say
only
in
kingston-
is
10
stories
considered
a
high
rise,
but
the
reality
is
that
I
believe
homestead
and
I
can
see
if
you
want
a
nod
that
had
happened
this
this
term.
I
think
it
was
late
previous
term
and
there
was
all
kinds
of
pushback
for
what
wasn't
a
high
rise.
A
I
think
it
was
six
or
eight
stories,
but
it
was
along
the
portsmouth
previous
portsmouth
waterfront
area.
So
so
we
need
to
be
a
little
cautious
when
we're
suggesting
or
offering
a
conjecture
that
maybe
we
can
put
up
a
high
rise
there.
The
reality
is,
I'm
not
sure.
Tamarack
has
ever
been
in
the
business
of
high
rises
and
it's
their
property,
but
the
other
potential
issue
is
we
may,
by
offering
a
higher
density
high
higher
building,
we
may
be
stirring
up
a
real
hornet's
nest.
So
just
a
word
to
the
wise.
A
That
kind
of
thing
I
just
want
to
remind
all
counselors
but
councillor
boehm,
that
that's
a
delegated
authority,
but
we
do.
We
can
ask
for
a
bump
up
through
council.
So
it
comes
back
to
this
committee
for
public
input
and
I've
always
willingly
seconded
and
supported
any
district
councillor
who
asked
for
a
bump
up.
So
that's
that's
a
possibility,
if
you
so
choose
so
that
was
my
yield
of
the
charity.
A
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
for
members
of
the
public
who
are
joining
us
this
evening.
We
do
rely
on
the
raise
hand,
function
if
you'd
like
to
speak
during
this
portion
of
the
meeting.
Please
use
the
raise
hand
function
in
zoom.
You
can
find
this
by
moving
your
mouse
across
the
screen
and
it
will
be
located
in
the
center
of
the
screen.
I'm
going
to
give
just
a
couple
of
seconds
here,
mr
chairs.
We
don't
currently
have
any
hands
up,
but
just
so
that
we
give
enough
opportunity
to
the
public
to
raise
their
hands.
L
L
Chair
and
and
counselors
I've
I've
written
in
comments.
My
name
is
robert
miller.
I
live
at
300
riverview
way,
so
I
I'll
try
not
to
rehash
the
various
points
that
I've
made
in
writing
and
through
email
and
megan.
I'd
like
to
thank
megan
robinedu
for
her
her
her
replies
and
I've
also
cc'd
my
local
counselor
counselor
ohm,
but
I
guess
I'll
I'll
make
some
high-level
general
comments.
I'm
concerned
about
the
sustainability
of
this
development
and
the
business's
usual
practice.
L
Kingston
says
that
it
wants
to
be
the
most
sustainable
city
in
north
america
or
in
canada.
Rather-
and
this
is
cookie
cutter
tract,
build
volume,
build
kind
of
get
in
get
out
and
and
not
look
to
sustainability.
So
I'm
all
about
renewable
energy
and
sustainability,
and
I
would
like
to
see
what
the
carbon
budget
is
for
this.
L
I
would
like
the
city
and
counselors
to
to
say
you
know
it
doesn't
matter
what
form
of
energy
is
delivered
to
the
subdivision,
to
heat
and
and
to
live,
but
consider
things
like
not
putting
in
a
natural
gas
main
put
in
an
expanded
or
increased
electrical
service
for
electrical
space,
heating
and
cooling
electric
vehicles,
those
sorts
of
things
and
I've
made
this
comment.
I
will
say
that
I've
witnessed
firsthand
track,
build
volume,
build
practices
and
they're
not
sustainable.
L
There
are
solid
waste
issues
and
solid
waste
management
issues.
I
should
say
that
I'm
a
professional
mechanical
engineer
and
I've
got
a
masters
of
science
degree
in
environmental
engineering,
and
I
have
a
solid
waste
background
and
a
renewable
energy
background.
I've
developed
a
couple
hundred
megawatts
of
wind.
A
couple
hundred
megawatts
of
solar.
L
My
house
at
800
riverview
way
has
has
12
kilowatts
of
solar
on
it.
Now
I
do
solar
thermal
I'd
just
like
to
see
more
of
that.
That
kind
of
thing
considered
and
integrated
into
the
homes.
Now
I
know
the
city
and
council:
don't
have
a
lot
of
power
over
developers
to
do
so,
but
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
you
know
try
to
incent
that
as
much
as
possible.
L
I
have
a
concern.
My
biggest
concern
is
probably
along
the
waterfront
and
the
30
meter
buffer.
I
I
would
hope
that
the
city
can
do
anything
and
everything
in
its
power
to
require
the
30
meter
buffer
and
more
and
and
and
have
the
30
meter
buffer
and
respect
the
the
the
epa.
It
looks
to
me
right
now
that
the
the
epa
has
a
section
carved
out
of
it
just
to
take
out
or
to
put
in
those
houses
100
to
119..
L
I
wouldn't
do
that
and
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
development
where
this
park
is
shown,
it's
pinched
there's
going
to
be
hardly
any
land
there
and
there's
going
to
be
a
giant
retaining
wall
and
that'll
look
ugly.
It
won't
be
a
really
redeeming
feature
and
I
just
don't
understand
why
the
houses
need
to
be
there.
I
picked
up
on
a
new
term.
L
You
guys
were
we're
talking
about
a
single
loaded
road,
so
I
would
say,
put
a
single
loaded
road
in
on
the
water
side,
because
once
it's
gone,
it's
gone
and
you
never
get
it
back
other
than
that.
You
know.
I
had
high
level
concerns
around
the
cumulative
effects
of
this
development,
the
one
to
the
south
and
then
whatever
homestead
is
doing
or
proposing
at
the
old
rito
marina
like
there
will
be
all
these
big
developments
happening.
So
what
happens
to
schools
like
my
wife
teaches
or
is
over
at
sir
johnny
mcdonald
school?
L
It
was
built
to
take
up
to
grade
eight
well
as
soon
as
it
opened
it.
It
only
could
accommodate
students
up
to
grade
six
and
great.
My
daughter
was
in
grade
eight
at
lasalle.
I
I
you
know.
Is
there
enough
infrastructure
fire
say
you
know,
ambulance,
schools
and
those
sorts
of
things?
That's
that's
sort
of
it.
For
now
I
mean
and
again
I'll,
I'm
listening
with
great
interest
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity-
and
you
know
I'll-
probably
write
in
some
more
notes.
L
Able
to
yeah
one
final
comment
and
you
guys
already
mentioned
it.
The
parking
issue
is
nuts
like
when
I
take
my
I
go
out
at
night
summer,
winter
fall
and-
and
you
you
you
make
a
valid
point-
two
cars
per
per
home
is
not
enough.
When
I
go
along
with
you
and
I
get
into
the
town
home
or
the
semi-detached
area.
There
are
cars
over
the
sidewalk,
every
house
is
jammed.
It
has
three
or
four
people
that
live
there
with
home
with
with
cars.
So
not
only
like.
L
I
don't
know
where
visitors
would
park,
there's
not
enough
car
there's
not
enough
parking
right
now
for
people
that
live
in
the
homes
they're
blocking
the
sidewalks
and
in
the
winter,
with
snow
banks
and
stuff
you
you
just
can't
get
through
there.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
it's
jammed.
So
so
maybe
I
know
you're
trying
to
hit
density
targets
and
I
know
there's
a
balance
there,
but
maybe
there
needs
to
be
some
some
off-site
parking
or
additional
parking
for
visitors
and
just
overflow
parking,
and
it's
sad
because
it's
a
car,
centric
neighborhood
thank.
D
M
M
The
way
that
the
world
is
built
are
important
considerations
and
becoming
more
important
all
the
time,
and
so
my
concern
with
this
design
is
that
it
sort
of
suffers
from
this
old
lens
of
what
a
healthy
sub
division
might
look
like.
So
the
the
first
flag
that
came
up
for
me
was
this
idea
that
a
five
percent
slope,
a
single
five
percent
slope
into
a
subdivision
is,
is
all
we
need
to
do
to
be
accessible
or
that
we
would
use
a
statement
that
says
well
because
of
accessibility.
M
We
can't
do
a
second
entrance
way,
so
we
all
have
been
to
the
tet
center.
There
are
exceptions
about
slopes
to
roadways.
You
look
at
the
way
the
switchback
is
done,
you
know,
and
so
I'm
just
gonna
run
through
a
few
points.
The
way
I
saw
them
and
hopefully
won't
take
too
long
but
accessible
and
barrier-free
design
for
this
particular
subdivision
and
for
pathways
of
travel,
really
should
be
looking
at
the
nearest
transit
stops
and
should
be
compliant
in
slope
and
appropriate
distance
to
those
transit
stops.
But
there
are
many
ways
to
do
that.
M
So
I
challenge
the
assertion
that
second
roadway
access
is
not
possible
due
to
design
of
public
space
design
issues,
and
I
offer
that
things
like
they
switch
back
at
the
tech
center
might
be
appropriate,
and
I
note
that
various
approaches
and
utilization
of
exceptions,
such
as
slopes
of
pathways
in
relation
to
slopes
of
roadways,
also
might
be
applicable.
The
park
and
area
infrastructure
should
serve
the
surrounding
community
and
not
just
be
for
this
one
subdivision
themselves.
M
M
So,
when
you're
in
a
motorized
chair,
which
many
people
are
nowadays,
slope
and
distance
are
not
as
big
an
issue,
but
when
you
have
other
types
of
mobility
needs
or
you
require
certain
types
of
assists,
a
shorter
distance,
a
greater
slope.
Different
options
actually
provide
greater
accessibility
and
they
should
be
explored.
I'll
use
an
example
to
the
mental
health,
which
is
to
say
that
connections
to
greenwood
park
trail
should
be
explored,
and
that
also
gets
into
then
the
ways
that
we
cross
things
like
highway
15..
M
What
kind
of
infrastructure
is
required
for
accessibility?
Is
it
going
to
be
pathways
of
travel
on
both
sides
of
highway
15?
Where
do
people
cross
etc
should
all
be
looked
at
and
that
good
neighborhood
design
factors
all
of
that
factors
it
with
distance
and
factors,
access
from
one
part
of
a
city
to
another
part
of
a
city,
and
it
just
sort
of
feels
like
this
design
hasn't
realized
that
yet
it's
almost
like
they've
got
this
gated
community
kind
of
feel
in
the
way
that
it's
designed,
I'm.
M
A
H
Thank
you,
so
I
am
speaking
tonight
on
behalf
of
building
kingston's
future
738
river
park,
new
market
lane
in
the
river
park
subdivision
and
I'd
like
to
start
by
inviting
all
of
planning
committee
to
visit
river
park.
144
units
laid
out
very
much
like
this
subdivision,
that's
being
proposed
across
the
river
from
river
park,
and
we
have
enormous
problems
with
parking.
We
have
problems
with
construction
people
coming
to
work
in
a
house,
there's
no
parking.
H
We
have
actually
overflow
parking
spaces
here
and
there
are
visitor
ones
and
they're
registered
ones
for
homeowners
who
can
purchase
them
on
a
monthly
rental
and
people
are
paving
their
front
lawns
in
order
to
accommodate
their
other
car
because,
as
a
counselor
mentioned,
people
have
other
things
in
their
garages
like
their
bicycles,
like
their
cross-country
skis
like
their
green
bin,
which
you
really
shouldn't
have
on
your
front,
porch,
etc.
So
parking
is
a
huge
issue
and
I
didn't
hear
how
wide
roads
a
b
c
and
d
are
so.
H
You
can
have
a
look
at
the
third
crossing
while
you're
here,
I
think,
you'll
see
that
there's
a
real
need-
and
I
also
heard
miss
wood-
say
that
the
garages
would
be
set
back,
leaving
two
spaces,
but
in
fact
it
looks
like
there's
a
garage
and
a
space
in
front,
which
means
the
drivers
of
those
cars
are
always
juggling
who's,
leaving
the
parking
space
first
and
who's
in
the
garage
and
it
it
is
a
nightmare
for
people
who
have
to
do
that.
It's
not
a
practical
way
to
live.
H
I
wanted
to
bring
up
a
letter
that
unesco,
the
united
nations,
educational,
scientific
and
cultural
organization
wrote
to
the
ambassador
of
canada
responsible
for
unesco.
So
at
the
time
it
was
elaine-
and
this
was
dear
ambassador.
This
was
with
respect
to
please
note
that
icomos,
which
is
the
sort
of
world
heritage
branch
of
unesco.
H
Please
note
that
icomas
concludes
in
its
review
that
the
proposed
shadow,
laurier
and
rito
marina
developments
could
have
a
significantly
negative
impact
on
the
outstanding
universal
value
of
the
property,
meaning
the
redo
canal
and
should
not
proceed
until
their
full
impacts
have
been
assessed.
Icomos,
therefore,
advises
the
state
party,
meaning
canada,
to
undertake
a
heritage
impact
assessment,
as
well
as
a
visual
impact
assessment
for
both
the
shadow,
laurier
and
rito
moreno
development
projects
individually.
H
The
state
party
is
invited
to
share
these
assessments
with
the
world
heritage
center
for
review
by
the
advisory
bodies
before
adopting
its
conclusions.
So
I
don't
know
I
heard
the
applicants
speak
about
the
unesco
designation,
but
I
didn't
hear
anything
about
a
heritage
impact
study
and
a
value
impact
assessment,
and
whether
unesco
is
okay
with
what
is
being
proposed
here.
They
were
not
okay
with
the
rito
marina
project,
which
was
at
the
time
eight
stories
cheering.
H
You
do
not
want
houses
and
cars
and
buildings
on
the
waterfront
side
of
this
development.
I'm
really
worried
about
the
city's
liability
and
I
think
councillor
baum,
raised
good
points
about
this
and
councillor
kylie
did
as
well
with
the
rock
wall
emergency
vehicles
and
I
think
councillor
sanik
talked
about
wet
basements.
All
of
those
things
as
counselor
bone
pointed
out
come
back
to
haunt
the
city.
We
end
up
as
as
taxpayers,
paying
for
the
problems
that
a
bad
development
has
contributed,
and
you
know
in
the
opinion
of
building
kingston's
future.
H
This
is
not
good
planning
or
in
the
public
interest
of
development,
as
it's
proposed.
There's
lots
of
pretty
pictures
of
trees.
How
do
trees
grow
on
rock?
This
is
a
quarry.
There
is
no
earth
there
and
you
and
the
applicants
can
say
we're
going
to
put
in
three
meters
of
earth
or
fill,
but
trees
need
to
get
their
roots
down
or
they
they
blow
over
in
the
wind.
H
Frankly-
and
this
is
waterfront
and
it
can
be
windy,
I'm
very
troubled
that
there's
a
part
of
a
property
to
the
south
that
for
which
there
is
no
plan,
there's
really
bad
planning
to
have
a
second
subdivision
potential
without
looking
at
how
the
two
properties
are
going
to
integrate.
So
I
think
that's
a
planning
issue
to
have
these
properties
going
forward.
I'd
like
to
know
who
owns
axion
and
how.
I
H
This
isn't,
as
councillor
hutchinson
pointed
out,
this
isn't
an
automatic.
It's
a
quarry.
What
works
in
the
context
of
this
quarry
development
to
be
functional
and
a
bus
is
never
going
to
come
down
here.
So
how
are
people
within
300
meters
of
the
bus
stop
and
what
is
really
the
access
for
people,
and
it's
almost
like
this
development
right
now
is
a
little
enclave,
a
gated
community,
that's
at
risk
of
never
being
part
of
the
city
but
causing
a
lot
of
problems
for
the
city.
So
I
will
end.
A
H
A
H
D
D
A
B
Thank
you,
and
through
the
chair,
I'm
happy
to
get
started
and
staff
feel
free
to
to
add
on
to
what
I
have
to
say.
I
would
first
just
encourage
members
of
the
public
to
to
review
the
submission
package.
So
there's
a
lot
of
technical
considerations
here
and
a
lot
of
work.
That's
been
undertaken
to
date,
british
cultural
heritage,
natural
heritage
engineering
and
a
number
of
supporting
studies
that
have
been
prepared
that,
unfortunately,
I
simply
don't
have
you
know
time
tonight
to
go
through
an
environmental.
B
That
was
provided
with
the
submission,
as
well
as
a
heritage
impact
study
that
was
prepared
by
bray
heritage,
which
examined
the
unesco
world
heritage
site.
It
has
been
reviewed
by
parks,
canada
and
we're
are
in
receipt
of
comments
from
them
and
we'll
be
consulted
them
in
advance
of
any
applications
and
we'll
be
continuing
to
consult
them
as
we
work
through
the
technical
review
process.
B
So
I
would
just
encourage
that
members
of
the
public,
if
there
are
particular
questions
around
what
was
evaluated
as
part
of
those
those
studies
they
are
all
accessible
through
through
as
well
in
terms
of
the
lands
lands
to
the
south.
As
I
noted
before,
a
land
use
study
was
prepared
in
support
of
this
application
and
it
considered
various
scenarios
and
concepts
for
those
lands
to
the
south.
B
Various
land
uses
various
road
configurations,
various
parkland
dedication
locations
and
how
that
would
integrate
with
the
proposed
subdivision,
so
just
important
to
note
that
that
work,
that
work
has
been
done,
and
I
would
encourage
folks
to
take
a
look
at
that
land
use
study
to
see
what
was
considered
on
those
lands
to
the
south
and
how
this
development
could
could
integrate
with
with
that
property
in
the
future.
If
and
when
that
property
owner
does
decide
to
develop
it,
I
think
I
know
there
have
been
concerns
raised
that
this.
B
This
will
feel
like
like
a
gated
community,
because
there
is
one
road
entrance
at
this
point.
There
is
one
road
entrance
proposed
we
can
explore
and
investigate
whether
there
is
potential
to
provide
a
second
one
through
adjacent
lands
that
are
owned
by
this
this
developer,
but
I'd
also
highlight
there
that
there
are
additional
pedestrian
connections
proposed
beyond
just
the
the
entrance
road.
So
there
is
an
opportunity
to
connect
the
the
trail
that
we're
proposing
to
the
existing
trail
and
lands
to
the
north
next
to
riverview.
B
We've
also
provided
a
proposed
pedestrian
connection
at
the
south
end
that
could
feed
into
a
pedestrian
network
along
the
water.
Should
those
lands
to
the
south
be
developed.
So
please
just
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
we're.
We
are
still
in
the
early
stages
of
of
the
design
of
this
subdivision
and
what
future
connections
look
like,
but
in
addition
to
the
entrance
road
there
will
be
pedestrian
connections
along
the
water
to
the
north
and
the
south.
B
Now
I'm
just
gonna
kind
of
start
from
the
beginning
and
work
my
way
way
down.
I
can
say
that
the
developer
is
present
this
evening
and
and
listening
so
comments
related
to,
I
think,
components
that
aren't
specifically
related
to
you
know,
subdivision
layout
and
land
use,
so
things
like
alternative
alternatives
to
natural
gas,
solar
panels
and
other
sustainability
features.
B
B
The
30
meter
setback
is
that
light
green
area
that
I
showed
that's
consistent
with
the
recommendations
of
the
eis
there's
no
proposed
development
within
the
30
meter
buffer
that
darker
green
beyond.
That
is
the
proposed
parkland
dedication,
which
is
in
addition
to
and
beyond
that,
30
meter,
setback
and
beyond
that
our
proposed
residential
dwellings.
B
B
B
There
was
a
question
or
concern
around
whether
there's
sufficient
infrastructure
to
support
these
additional
units.
So
we've
done
a
number
of
technical
studies
to
look
at
things
like
capacity
from
a
servicing
and
traffic
perspective.
Those
will
all
be
reviewed
by
by
city
engineering
staff
and
and
we'll
look
at
the
details
around
servicing
capacity,
but
preliminary
reviews
suggest
capacity
won't
be
an
issue
again.
I
have
taken
note
of
concerns
regarding
parking
and
we'll
definitely
look
at
options
for
facilitating,
visitor
or
overflow
parking,
because
we
we've
heard
that
concern.
B
B
Certainly,
the
the
question
around
the
rock
wall
and
liability
is
something
that
we
continue
to
look
at.
I
think
I
I
touched
on
it
briefly
at
the
beginning
in
response
to
counselor
kylie
and
it's
something
again
that
that
we've
made
note
of
and
and
I
think
we're
going
to
be,
providing
additional
detail
at
a
future
date
prior
to
any
decisions
being
made.
So
thank
you
for
that
feedback.
A
Yes,
we'll
we'll
go,
I
see
council
or
sanik's
hand
is
up
we'll
go
to
back
to
the
committee
for
any
missed
questions
or
further
questions.
I
have
one
or
two,
but
I'll
give
our
planners
an
opportunity
if,
if
there's
anything
that
they'd
like
to
speak
to
as
far
as
the
public
questioning
right,
thank
you.
E
Thank
you
for
you,
mr
chair.
I
don't
think
there's
anything
further
for
staff
to
respond
to
at
this
time,
but
certainly
thank
everyone
for
their
comments
and
questions
and
we'll
certainly
take
those
under
advisement.
As
we
continue.
Our
review
of
this
application
and
responses
will
be
provided
in
a
future
comprehensive
report.
G
B
A
B
B
I'm
sure
there
are
best
practices
that
we
can
refer
to
and
consult
the
city
on
in
terms
of
what
is
the
minimum
amount
of
top
soil,
that's
required
to
support
a
root
system
for
the
types
of
trees
that
we're
looking
for
for
street
trees.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
that
we
need
to
confirm
and
and
make
sure
that
we're
considering
through
the
grading
plan,
which
is
a
little
bit
further
down
the
road,
but
ensuring
that
that
grading
plan
does
does
provide
sufficient
topsoil
to
accommodate
trees.
B
B
Thank
you
and
through
the
chair,
the
the
retaining
wall.
There's
gonna
be
a
few
retaining
walls,
but
the
one
close
to
the
water
is
retaining
the
rears
of
several
of
the
residential
lots.
So
it
will
be
between
the
residential
lot
and
the
park
block,
as
opposed
to
between
the
park
block
and
the
epa
land.
G
For
then
I've
read
the
letters
from
rob
miller
who
we
also
heard
from
tonight
cindy
cameron,
karen
o'hanley,
and
we
also
heard
really
specific
questions
from
vikki
schmoka
tonight.
So
when
we
apprehensive
report,
I
will
be
looking
for
sure
for
direct
answers
to
all
of
the
concerns
that
they
raise,
because
in
the
comprehensive
report,
sometimes
we
generalize
things
and
you
know
just
give
one
or
two
sentences.
G
G
We
have
to
make
sure
that
there's
going
to
be
room
for
the
car
and
that
cars
won't
have
to
go
over.
You
know
the
sidewalks
that
are
going
to
be
built
on
one
side
of
the
street
before
those
homes
that
are
going
to
have
a
sidewalk.
They
need
enough
room
on
the
driveway
to
be
able
to
have
their
car
without
worrying
about
it
because
we
did
have
to
what
do
we
have
to
do.
G
We
had
to
amend
our
bylaw,
give
an
exception
to
our
bylaw
for
greenwood
park
in
another
area
a
few
months
ago
on
where
the
driveways
were
not
built
long
enough
and
cars
were
overlapping.
The
sidewalks
so
I'll
be
looking
for
that
as
well.
When
this
comes
up
and
two
since
you
did
say
that
the
houses
might
be
able
to
move
further
back
to
give
that
extra
room,
I
think
I
will
be
looking
for
that,
because
then
too,
you
could
build
another.
G
You
could
plant
another
tree
on
the
front
lawn
because
you
know
how
is
what
you
were
saying,
how
only
one
tree
might
be
planted
at
some
houses.
Some
houses,
if
they
share
a
driveway,
have
the
side
have
the
driveway
side
by
side.
There
might
not
be
enough
room
to
plant
a
street
tree
if
the
houses
are
pushed
back
more
to
give
a
longer
front
yard.
You
know
more
street
trees,
whether
it's
the
owner
paying
for
the
tree
to
plant
one
or
it's
the
city.
I
Yeah,
just
my
question
is
more
around
what
council
sanik
was
saying
around
the
single
loaded
road
and
I'm
wondering
so.
As
I
see
the
retaining
wall
that
you
had
up
in
your
picture
and
then
so
that
there
would
be
like
the
retaining
wall,
then
there's
a
pathway,
and
I
I'm
assuming
that
that's
like
a
intended
to
be
kind
of
a
permanent
pathway.
It's
not
like
just
a
rough
pathway.
It's
a
maintained
pathway
that
would
would
sort
of
run
parallel
to
the
epa
zone
and
then
on.
B
B
The
official
plan
and
the
waterfront
master
plan
contemplate
a
waterfront
trail,
which
is
why
we've
accommodated
that
in
our
plan
here.
So
our
vision
at
this
point
would
be
for
an
accessible
waterfront
trail
between
that
ep
and
those
residential
lots,
and
we
are
proposing
preliminarily
a
grading
plan
and
retention.
B
That
would
facilitate
that
waterfront
trail
and
I
think
the
details
of
of
what
that
trail
looks
like
will
ultimately
be
up
to
up
to
city
staff,
and-
and
I
would
just
highlight
that
not
not
all
of
the
lots
will
will
be
retained
to
the
extent
of
that
one
rendering
that
rendering
was
at
the
steepest
point.
As
you
move
further
north
towards
the
park.
I
I
B
A
F
Chair
thank
you
chair.
I
was
accepted
to
my
phd,
but
turned
it
down.
That
must
make
real
doctors
angry,
but
anyway
that's
another
story.
My
questions
are
about
roads
too,
and
I'm
gonna
pick
up
just
on
the
thought
of
the
retaining
wall,
because
I'm
trying
to
work
this
through
my
head,
particularly
around
traffic
calming,
and
if
the
retaining
wall
wasn't
in
the
southwestern
portion
of
the
property,
could
hill
on
road
b
actually
be
a
way
to
calm
traffic.
F
I
know
that
in
my
area
in
the
west
end,
there
are
a
few
nice
hills
which
sometimes
can
actually
slow
folks
down,
and
I
think
council
rosane
was
right
to
bring
up
that
as
a
essentially
a
freeway.
A
big
big
old
line
that
people
can
speed
on
is
very
problematic.
So
if
that
retaining
wall
wasn't
there
or
at
least
wasn't
as
high
in
the
hill,
could
that
actually
be
a
traffic
calming
measure.
B
B
Residential
laws,
or
not
so,
and
also
in
order
to
facilitate,
like
I
said,
before,
an
accessible
road.
So
we
could.
We
did
consider
trying
to
bring
that
that
down
so
that
the
retaining
wall
was
there,
so
bringing
the
land
lower
closer
to
the
park.
But
the
effect
that
that
have
had
is
making
the
entrance
road
steeper.
So
it's
with
this
site,
it's
it's
a
constant
push
and
pull
of
constraints
and
trying
to
meet
accessibility
while
well
trying
to
create
a
safe
sub
layout.
But
that's
the
your
question
is
something
we
can
look
into.
F
Yeah
your
response
is
valid.
I
definitely
see
that
it's
not
a
straightforward
approach
here
by
any
means,
I'm
also
hoping
you
could
comment
just
clarify.
Maybe
I
missed
it
if
you've
done
this
already
to
the
question
about
road
width,
what
are
the
widths
of
the
roads
here?
I
know
we've
talked
a
bit
about
parking
availability,
but
do
we
have
numbers
at
this
point
like
the
actual
dimensions.
B
J
You
go,
okay,
yeah
should
be
unlimited.
Now
I
just
want
to
straighten
one
thing
out
when
I
was
talking
about
stepping
back
the
development
from
the
30
meter
buffer
zone.
I
was
not
talking
about
high
rises.
Okay,
let's
be
clear
about
that.
I
was
thinking
low
rises
and
or
a
rise
or
two,
I'm
not
zionian.
So
I'm
not
going
to
say
anything
about
that
and
that
the
density
would
be
stepped
back
and
closer
to
highway
1515,
and
it
could
be
rental,
it
could
be
condominiums,
but
I'm
just
not
talking
about
high
rises.
C
J
J
A
C
J
So
I'm
just
raising
that
as
a
concern
and
that
that
greenwood
park
should
be
looked
at
to
make
sure
we
don't
end
up
with
the
same
problems.
It's
not
every
street
as
well.
Okay,
so
at
least
that's
my
observation,
the
the
other
thing
is
in
terms
of
I
have
concerns
about
the
trees
as
well
and
now
I
know
they've
backfilled
there,
so
that
may
have
a
positive
aspect
to
it.
J
J
N
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
chair.
Just
in
response
to
counselor
hutcheson's
question
about
parking
in
in
greenwood
park.
The
the
parking
for
detached
homes
is
determined
by
the
zoning
bylaw.
So
there's
a
requirement
in
the
zoning
bylaw
for
one
parking
space
per
house.
What
the
zoning
bylaw
does
not
control
is
the
number
of
vehicles
that
are
owned
in
a
household
and
we
have
no
control
over
that
and
unfortunately,
as
an
observation
of
my
own
living
very
close
to
this
area
and
I've
seen
it
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
A
A
The
difficulty
is
that
we
all
recognize,
particularly
since
we
encourage
and
allow
future
secondary
suites
that
allowing
just
one
parking
space
per
unit
of
housing
is
insufficient.
So
so
that's
something
I
need.
I
think
we
need
to
address
in
our
future
comprehensive
zoning
bylaw,
but
we
need
to
recognize
that
as
a
problem
currently
as
well.
A
A
I
think
you've
seen
what
you
rarely
see
with
city
of
kingston
council,
which
is
near
unanimity
on
the
whole
question
of
single
loaded
road,
so
that
there
seems
to
be
a
consensus
on
that
in
this
committee.
And
that
being
the
case,
I
think
that
before
it
comes
back
as
part
of
the
comprehensive
proposal,
you
need
to
consider
that
really
strongly
the
other
thing,
and
I'm
surprised
that
vice
chair
kylie
didn't
jump
in
because
usually
he
or
I
jump
in
at
the
comprehensive
zoning
timing
within
five
to
ten
years.
J
Okay,
so
I
it
would
seem
to
me
straightforward
that
if
you
have
a
longer
front
yard,
the
possibility
of
accommodating
more
than
one
car
is
definitely
a
possibility
and
in
fact
one
of
the
letters
to
us
just
reminded
me
that
they
made
that
very
point.
You
have
the
garage
and
we
had
a
little
debate
about
whether
they're
actually
used
for
parking,
but
we
can't
help
that,
but
we
can
help
the
front
yard
the
size
of
the
front
yard
and
whether
you
can
park
at
the
second
car
in
the
driveway
and
not
overhang
the
sidewalk.
N
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I
I
think
in
this
situation,
through
the
design
of
a
new
subdivision.
It's
certainly
something
that
can
be
explored
if
the
opportunity
exists
for
a
deeper
setback
to
allow
for
a
longer
driveway,
but
you
also
have
other
competing
interests
for
the
zoning.
Bylaw,
such
as
side
yard
setbacks,
maximum
coverage
of
your
parking
areas,
your
your
the
space.
That
needs
to
be
provided
things
like
that.
So
it
starts
to
get
to
be
a
bit
of
a
balancing
hat.
A
B
Thank
you
and
through
the
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
provide
some
clarification
on
on
the
proposed
zoning
and
front
yard
setback,
so
we
are
proposing
a
three
meter
front
yard
setback
for
the
building.
However,
the
space
is
still
required
to
be
set
back
a
minimum
of
six
meters
in
order
to
accommodate
a
surface
parking
space
in
the
driveway.
In
addition
to
the
garage,
the
reduced
front
yard
setback
would
essentially
mean
that
portions
of
the
dwelling
that
are
not
the
garage
so
front
entrance
way
feature
front.
Porch.
B
I
A
A
A
The
work
is
done
as
a
condition
of
site
plan
and,
if
there's
any
conveyance,
the
conveyance
takes
place
at
that
time
after
it's
already
gone
in,
so
I'm
not
sure
whether
the
city
would
would
recognize
that
again.
I
think
it
should
be
a
consideration,
because
past
development
of
pathways
has
been
part
of
the
developers
requirement
and
if
there's
been
any
conveyance,
it's
happened
after
the
fact.
A
A
A
A
We've
received
considerable
correspondence,
but
I
believe
we
all
commented
on
what
we
wanted
to
comment
on.
So
we'll
go
to
the
date
of
the
next
meeting,
which
is
may
20th
for
our
next
planning
meeting
and
I'll.
Have
a
motion
to
adjourn
counselor
hill
beat
us
all
to
it:
counselor
hutcherson,
all
those
in
favor
approved.