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Planning Committee meeting from September 15, 2022. For full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3eJqZzR
A
C
Alrighty
everyone
welcome
to
planning
committee.
I
can
see
counselor
neil
hutcheson,
osanic
and
chappelle
before
me
on
a
screen
and
counselor
hill
in
the
flesh,
we're
doing
a
hybrid
meeting
for
the
first
time
for
planning
committee.
So
a
special
welcome
to
members
of
the
public
and
a
quick
call
for
patients
if
we
fumble
around
especially
mia's
chair,
getting
used
to
the
the
dual
interface
but
hi
everyone
at
6
pm.
Let's
call
this
meeting
to
order.
C
We
have
a
number
of
public
meetings
and
business
items
and
before
we
start,
I
wanted
to
recognize
that
in
the
addeds
which
we'll
approve
later
on
in
the
meeting
there's
a
pulling
of
one
file
that
appears
in
the
agenda,
which
is
630
princess
street
and
again
we'll
approve
that
later
down
the
road.
But
for
anyone
watching
at
home.
I
wanted
to
recognize
that
off
the
top
alrighty.
So
with
that
I'll
read
the
notice
of
collection
that
frames
our
public
meetings
and
then
we'll
move
into
community
benefits
and
quickly
before
I
do
that
too.
C
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
that
we
have
some
staff
with
us
here
in
the
chambers
at
city
hall
and
then
a
number
of
applicants
and
other
staff
planners
on
on
zoom,
so
also
hybrid
in
that
regard
alrighty
notice
of
collection.
This
is
on
page
two
of
your
agendas.
Personal
information
collected
as
a
result
of
the
public
meetings
are
collected
under
the
authority
of
the
planning
act
and
will
be
used
to
assist
in
making
a
decision
on
this
matter.
Persons
speaking
at
the
meeting
are
requested
to
give
their
name
and
address
for
recording
in
the
minutes.
C
C
Questions
regarding
this
collection
should
be
forwarded
to
the
director
of
planning
services,
mr
tim
park,
and
with
that
our
first
public
meeting
is
concerning
the
draft
community
benefits
charges,
both
the
strategy
and
bylaw
and
I'll
look
to
miss
agarwal.
Who
has
appeared
on
my
screen
to
speak
to
that.
D
The
previous
section
37
enabled
municipalities
to
allow
increased
height
and
or
density
on
a
site
in
exchange
for
facilities,
services
or
other
matters
that
would
benefit
the
community.
These
planning
act
provisions
have
now
been
replaced
with
a
new
community
benefits
charge
so
cbc
and
short,
which
is
a
new
growth
funding
tool
available
to
municipalities.
D
In
addition
to
development
charges
and
parkland
conveyance
to
set
a
community
benefits
charge,
the
city
must
first
develop
a
community
benefits
charges,
strategy
that
identifies
the
facilities,
services
and
matters
that
will
be
funded
through
a
community
benefits,
charge,
undertake
consultation
and
then
pass
a
community
benefits.
Charges
bylaw
in
the
spring
of
this
year,
watson
and
associates
economists
limited
were
retained
by
the
city
to
prepare
a
community
benefits
charges
strategy
for
the
city
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
of
the
planning
act.
F
E
So
further
to
ms
agarwal's
introduction,
we
were
retained
by
the
city
to
prepare
a
community
benefit
charge
strategy
and
assist
with
the
preparation
of
the
draft
bylaw.
Our
study
was
was
drafted
and
complete
on
august.
The
31st
in
that
draft
form
that's
been
since
released
on
municipalities
website.
As
of
september,
the
9th
and
we've
presented
those
findings
to
the
development
industry
earlier
this
week
on
september
13th
to
receive
input
from
them
on
the
matter
and
answer
any
questions
that
they
may
have
next
slide.
E
G
C
F
So
counselor
neil,
what
you
need
to
do
is
if
you
can
see
the
this
is
for
anybody
in
the
meeting.
If
you
can
see
the
council
chamber
tile,
where
the
presentation
is
go
to
the
top
corner
of
it
and
there
will
be
three
little
dots,
select,
click
that
and
then
click
pin
and
now
it
will
pop
up
large
for
you
and
when
you
no
longer
want
to
see
it
large,
you
unpin
it
and
then
you're
back
to
seeing
everybody
else.
E
Thank
you
yeah.
So
again,
I
wanted
to
provide
some
some
context
for
the
community
benefit
charge,
strategy
and
bylaw,
and
to
put
that,
in
a
broader
context
of
growth,
funding
tools
for
municipalities,
so
municipalities
have
a
number
of
different
sources
of
funding
that
they
can
rely
on
to
offset
the
increase
in
need
for
services
of
new
development
to
pay
for
the
capital
needs
of
that
increase
in
need
for
service.
E
The
the
new
provisions
of
section
37
of
the
planning
act
replace
the
previous
community
benefits
that
could
be
secured
for
increased,
heightened
density
of
specific
applicants
and
now
provides
for
a
broader
tool
that
would
be
applicable
to
certain
types
of
high
density
development
which
we'll
touch
on
a
bit
further.
In
a
moment-
and
so
it
is
a
much
broader
tool,
although
limited
in
the
sense,
it
only
applies
to
a
certain
subset
of
high
density
development
in
that
regard.
E
But
I
think
what
I
I
wanted
to
emphasize
was
that
unlike
development
charges
or
partner
dedication
under
section
42
of
the
planning
act,
there
are
no
service
restrictions,
in
terms
of
which
served
municipal
services
can
be
considered
for
inclusion
in
the
cbc
further
to
that.
They
can
also
include
services
that
are
in
a
dc
by
law
or
include
parkland
for
that
matter.
But
the
act
is
quite
clear
that
they
cannot
include
these
same
capital
costs
that
would
be
recovered
under
those
bylaws,
because
I
think
that's
an
important
item
to
note
in
that.
E
Next
slide,
so
to
then
provide
some
legal
context
around
the
section.
37
abilities
of
municipalities
to
impose
community
benefit
charges,
as
we've
mentioned,
these
are
as
a
result
of
the
covet
19
economic
recovery
act.
Amendments
to
the
planning
act,
a
community
benefit
charge,
can
only
be
imposed
by
a
single
tier
municipality
or
a
lower-tier
municipality.
E
E
E
Next
slide,
please
so
for
musicality
to
impose
a
community
benefit
charge.
It
needs
to
do
so
through
a
bylaw,
and
the
act
requires
that
before
a
council
passes,
obama
to
impose
a
community
benefit
charge,
they
must
prepare
a
strategy.
A
strategy
is
very
similar
to
a
background
study.
That's
required
under
the
development
charges
act.
E
It
also
requires
that,
in
passing,
the
bylaw
of
the
municipality
must
consult
with
the
public
on
the
matter,
although
a
bit
more
flexible
than
we
see
under
other
statutes
and
that
it
allows
the
municipality
to
do
that
in
a
manner.
It
seems
to
be
appropriate
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
this
tool
is
more
limited
in
position
in
that
it
can
only
be
applied
to
buildings
or
structures
that
are
at
least
five
stories
and
contain
at
least
10
units
next
slide.
E
Municipalities
also
have
the
ability
to
provide
further
exemptions
if
they
deem
that
to
be
appropriate
in
the
violence,
and
it's
also
important
to
note
that
municipalities
must
also
acknowledge
that
these
bylaws
are
appealable
to
the
ontario
land
trade
so
similar
to
a
developed
charge.
Once
the
bylaw
is
passed,
there
is
a
40-day
appeal
period
in
which
anyone
can
appeal
this
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal
and,
as
we
know,
from
development
charges.
E
With
respect
to
the
subset
of
high
density
development,
then
determining
increase
in
need
for
service
that
would
be
required
and
the
estimated
capital
cost
of
those
services
and
then
making
deductions
for
those
services,
those
costs
of
service,
with
respect
to
any
excess
capacity
that
you
may
be
available
to
serve
that
need
the
benefit
to
existing
development.
That
may
also
arise
from
those
capital
costs
and
any
funding
that
may
be
provided
from
another
source,
such
as
brands
or
other
contributions.
E
So
in
providing
these
the
specifics
in
the
context
of
that
methodology,
you'll
see
in
the
strategy
document
that
a
growth
forecast
was
prepared
for
the
periods
2036
that
is
reflective
of
the
city's
population,
housing
employment
growth
forecast.
It's
the
the
recently
available
document
in
that
regard.
E
You
can
see
that
the
total
anticipated
net
population
growth
over
that
period
of
time
would
be
18
143
people,
approximately
52
of
that
population,
would
be
as
a
result
of
high
density
residential
development
and
if
we
look
at
that
share
further
of
that,
roughly
9
400
persons
coming
from
high
density
residential
development
activities
about
72
percent
of
it
or
about
6
700
people
would
be
in
the
estimated
form
to
which
a
charge
would
apply
so
in
armed
with
that
anticipated
development.
Then
next
slide,
please.
E
E
We've
also
identified
an
electric
vehicle
strategy
that
is
required
to
identify
the
municipality's
capital
budget
forecast,
as
well
as
for
heritage
services,
by
sharing
the
cost
related
to
the
property
heritage,
property,
designation,
update
and
the
expansion
of
our
convent
market
square
projects
with
respect
to
arts
and
cultural
services.
You'll
see
that
specific
projects
related
to
the
provision,
public,
heart
and
other
cultural
studies
have
been
identified,
as
well
as
the
public
art
requirements
of
the
third
crossing
project
have
been
identified
in
the
calculation
and
finally,
in
terms
of
growth.
E
Gis
strategy
have
been
included
for
partial
funding
from
cbc
funding
source
and
so
on.
The
next
slide.
What
you'll
see
is
a
summary
of
the
needs
by
service
totaling
about
69
million
dollars
of
which
about
just
under
eight
million
dollars
has
been
identified
as
a
residential
growth
related
cost
share
of
that
share.
E
When
we
look
at
the
amount
that
would
apply
to
this
subset
of
high-density
residential
buildings,
that,
with
about
3.2
million
in
potential
funding
over
that
forecast
period,
2036
from
this
mechanism,
and
when
we
compare
that
cost
relative
to
the
incremental
gross
population,
that
would
result
from
that
anticipated
development
that
would
produce
a
charge
of
about
480
per
capita.
And
so
we
look
to
inform
that
based
on
the
quality
would
be
imposed
at
the
time
of
building
permit.
E
That
would
suggest
the
need
for
a
charge
of
590
for
bachelor
one
bedroom
apartment
units
and
a
charge
of
856
for
those
that
have
two
bedrooms
or
more
and
to
put
that
charge
in
some
context.
Because
again
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
within
the
prescribed
rate
of
four
percent
of
estimated
land
value.
When
we
compare
that
overall
cost
recovery
and
the
underlying
estimated
land
value
of
that
development,
it
would
equate
to
just
under
two
percent
of
the
estimated
land
value
through
that
charge.
The
lowest
prescribed
rate
next
slide.
E
There
are
other
municipalities
like
that
being
proposed
for
the
city
of
kingston
that
are
imposing
the
charge
per
unit
basis,
which
again
will
generally
reflect
the
same
practice
of
development
charges
in
those
municipalities
and
the
fact
that
the
charges
are
funding
things
such
as
facilities,
studies,
vehicles,
equipment,
other
items
that
may
move
in
terms
of
their
capital
costs
differently
relative
to
the
value
of
plans.
Charging
our
free
interfaces
may
be
more
appropriate
in
that
regard.
E
The
act
also
allows
municipalities
to
accept
incoming
contributions
in
place
of
the
revenue
and
the
charges
themselves
and
that
that
would
be
determined
by
council
to
elect
to
to
accept
those
and
to
value
those
appropriately
next
slide.
The
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
act
also
provides
four
exemptions.
There
are
statutory
exemptions
in
that
this
charge
can
only
be
imposed
on
development
that
has
five
stories
or,
more
or
at
least
10
residential
quality
units.
E
The
non-statutory
exemptions
provide
for
exemptions
for
municipal
and
educational
facilities,
as
well
as
for
affordable
housing
units,
as
defined
in
the
bottle,
and
so
that
concludes
my
summary
of
the
legislative
context.
The
methodology
and
the
findings
of
the
strategy
and
proposed
bylaw
next
slide,
please.
So
the
final
slide
is
with
respect
to
next
steps
and
so
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
the
better
wall.
To
conclude
on
this
next
step,.
D
Thank
you,
mr
grunder.
So,
with
respect
to
next
steps
we
are,
we
will
take
away
any
input
that
we
receive
tonight
on
this
matter,
as
well
as
all
of
the
input
that
was
received
at
the
session
held
with
the
development
community
and
the
intent
is
to
bring
back
a
recommendation
report
to
the
planning
committee
at
the
october
13th
meeting,
followed
by
council
consideration
of
the
bylaw
on
november
1st.
D
Both
of
these
dates
are
tentative
for
now,
depending
on
the
the
type
of
feedback
we
received
today
and
and
the
need
for
any
changes
needed
to
the
proposed
strategy
and
the
bylaw,
and
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate,
as
mr
grunder
had
mentioned,
the
cbc
bylaw
would
be
subject
to
appeal
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal
upon
council.
Adoption
of
the
bylaw,
a
notice
of
passing
will
be
provided
in
accordance
with
the
planning
act
and
the
bylaw
can
be
appealed.
40
days
from
the
date
council
adopts
a
by-law.
C
Thank
you
very
much
miss
agarwal
and
mr
grunda.
We
will
follow
our
normal
public
meeting
protocol
and
I
should
add
that
I
didn't
say
at
the
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
building
off
that
last
slide
here.
Actually
that
a
reminder
to
the
public
we're
not
making
a
decision
on
this
file
or
any
of
the
public
meetings
tonight
we're
asking
questions
and
getting
responses
and
then
having
the
same
from
members
of
the
committee.
So,
madam
clerk,
do
we
have
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
speak.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
through
you,
we
do
have
some
members
of
the
public
with
us
at
this
time.
So
if
anyone
would
like
to
speak
to
the
current
application,
if
you
can,
please
raise
your
hand
either
by
using
the
raise
hand,
function
in
the
center
of
your
screen
or
if
you
can't
see
it,
there,
then
you'll
need
to
open
the
participants
panel
to
the
left
and
then
use
the
raise
hand
button
at
the
bottom.
H
I
So
there's
a
sustained
high
demand
for
more
housing,
which
we
all
know,
and
this
year
cmhc
identified
that
ontario
needs
1.85
million
new
housing
units.
So
this
is
above
what
would
normally
be
built
in
a
year
by
2030.
So
that's
an
increase
over
the
normal
rate
about
200
000
new
housing
units
a
year
for
the
next
eight
years,
and
that's
just
to
afford
to
restore
housing
costs
to
basically
what
is
an
affordable
level
according
to
cmhc,
which
is
37
of
your
household
income
spent
on
housing.
I
So
this
just
shows
where
ontario's
on
track,
if
it
were
to
keep
building
housing
at
the
same
rate.
So
according
to
cmhc
ontario's
housing
situation
would
continue
to
decline
in
terms
of
the
housing
units
available
to
the
population
over
the
next
eight
or
so
years,
and
actually,
in
this
case
this
particular
metric
ontario,
is
the
worst
in
the
province
in
the
country
in
terms
of
supply
of
housing
to
population
next
slide.
Please.
I
So
for
from
cmhc
again
they've
identified
as
we
know,
home
ownership
versus
rental,
for
example-
is
typically
the
most
expensive
form
of
housing.
So
as
housing
becomes
more
expensive
or
occupies
a
greater
proportion
of
the
household's
income,
more
and
more
residents
will
be
looking
to
rental
housing
as
a
more
affordable
form
of
housing.
I
I
This
just
shows
again
ontario
comparison
to
other
provinces
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
household
income
needed
to
be
spent
on
housing.
You
can
see
that
ontario
slightly
behind
british
columbia,
but
that
gap
unfortunately
is
closing,
and
so
that
in
the
situation
is
getting
getting
worse.
The
last
time
housing
in
ontario
was
deemed
to
be
affordable
was
about
20
years
ago
in
2004.
I
I
C
H
J
C
L
M
Thank
you.
I
don't
mean
to
take
that
much
time.
You
know
over
the
years
when
we
talked
about
community
benefits,
I
I
advocated
for
the
use
of
community
benefits
for
affordable
housing
and
as
you
in
in
the
various
planning
documents
and
policy
documents
on
community
benefits.
Affordable
housing
was
put
at
the
top
of
the
list
of
how
they
would
be
used,
but
in
every
case
that
it
was
raised,
it
never
was
became,
it
was
never
implemented.
M
So
I
wonder
with
this
new
policy,
if
we
can
somehow
return
to
the
idea
that
community
benefits
should
go
first
to
affordable
housing,
look,
you
know
how
awful
the
situation
is.
You
know
it
from
the
homeless
people
on
the
streets,
it's
like
it's
just
impossible.
The
number
of
people
are
at
the
edge
of
losing
housing.
The
eviction
rate.
We
know
how
desperate
the
situation
is
for
affordable
housing.
I
don't
have
to
tell
you.
You
know
that,
and
it's
our
responsibility
municipality
to
solve
that.
So
my
question
would
be.
M
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
thank
both
of
the
speakers
for
their
comments,
and
I
appreciate
all
of
the
information
that
was
provided
by
mr
tao.
With
respect
to
the
the
comments
and
made
by
mr
towel.
I
want
to
say
is
that
this
is
a
new
tool
available
to
municipalities
and
the
intent
of
the
province
is
that
growth
would
fund
growth
in
working
on
this
strategy
and
coming
up
with
with
the
charge.
D
As
mr
brandon
mentioned,
the
city
of
kingston
is
coming
in
at
1.8
percent
of
the
land
value
which
is
much
lower
than
the
maximum
4,
that's
prescribed
by
legislation.
So
so
we
have
tried
our
best
to
to
balance
the
the
charge
so
as
to
not
hinder
developments.
That
may
be
like
five
stories
or
more
or
ten
or
more
units,
and
then
the
next
set
of
questions
or
comments
were
from
mr
giventer
about
whether
we
can
legislate
that
benefits
be
directed
towards
affordable
housing.
D
So,
as
mr
granda
had
mentioned,
there
are
there's
approximately
1.28
million
dollars
that
have
been
identified
within
the
cbc
within
the
community
benefits
charge
strategy
that
would
be
used
to
fund
affordable
housing
over
the
next
14
years.
So
that's
the
timing
aligns
with
the
city's
capital
budget
projection.
So
so,
yes,
we
do
already
have
that
in
the
strategy.
So
I
hope
that
helps
clarify
and
if
mr
granda
has
anything
to
add,
I
would
invite
him
to
say
anything.
If
there
is
anything
else,
he
would
like
to
add.
E
Thank
you
secretary.
I
would
just
add
about
the
the
question
about
utilizing
the
the
benefit
charts
solely
for
affordable
housing.
So
the
the
the
requirement
is
in
establishing
a
cdc
is
that
it
has
to
relate
to
the
needs
that
have
been
identified
and
can
be
supported
by
council,
and
so
those
are
based
on
those
capital,
cost
estimates
and
so
based
on
our
calculation.
About
40
of
that
calculated
rate
is
for
affordable
housing
and
that
money
will
be
used
for
that
purpose.
C
All
right,
thank
you.
I
don't
see
other
movement
on
that
file
thanks
to
those
who
came
to
speak,
we'll
move
to
our
second
public
meeting,
which
is
on.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
folks,
here
I
am
getting
too
excited.
I
need
to
look
to
committee
first
and
they're
in
front
of
me
on
the
screen,
so
my
apologies
counselor
chappelle.
Thank
you.
L
L
So
I'm
wondering
if
this,
when
this
report
comes
back,
if
that
will
be
accounted
for
as
a
prescribed
cost
that
we're
trying
to
recover
from,
and
I'd
like
to
get
when
the
presentation
comes
back
to
council,
I'd
like
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
why
we
would
be
looking
at
1.8
versus
some
of
the
other
municipalities
looking
at
the
land
of
four
percent,
and
also
some
clarification
on
what
year
they're
using
to
assess
the
value.
If
it's,
this
year's,
if
it's
the
values
for
property
of
2022
or
is
it
earlier?
L
So
those
are
basically
some
of
my
questions.
What
I
like
to
see
is
that
the
residents
of
kingston
benefit
the
greatest
from
this
initiative
rather
than
than
the
other
way
around.
So
I
think
we've
left
too
much
money
on
the
table
for
past
developments
over
the
last
number
of
years
without
this
plan.
So
I'll
definitely
support
having
this
pass
during
this
period
of
council,
and
I
just
wanted
to
have
those
three
items
reflected
in
the
report
going
forward.
Thank
you.
D
E
Thanks,
greedy
yeah,
so
again,
I
would
echo
secretary's
comments
about
the
inclusion
of
some
of
those
climate
change
initiatives
in
the
strategy
already.
I
think
I
would
also
highlight
that,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
to
the
extent
that
some
of
those
climate
change
initiatives
are
being
reflected
in
design
standards
of
the
municipality
that
would
inform
other
infrastructure
items
such
as
roads,
storm
water,
potentially
water,
sewer
and
construction
requirements.
E
G
G
D
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
thank
you
counselor
neil
for
that
question.
So
it's
it's
quite
different.
The
way
these
new
community
benefit
charges
would
work
as
compared
to
how
community
benefits
were
collected
in
the
past.
Under
the
old
section
37
provisions,
the
planning
act
requires
municipalities
to
consult
when
a
community
benefits
charge
strategy
is
being
developed,
which
is
which
is
this.
D
This
public
meeting
tonight
also,
as
I
mentioned,
the
the
services,
the
facilities,
the
matters
that
have
been
identified
in
the
community
benefits
charges
strategy
have
been
derived
from
the
council,
approved
the
capital
budget
forecast
for
the
next
14
years.
So
those
those
projects
are
already
budget
have
been
included
in
the
capital
budget.
Also,
the
planning
act
requires
that
any
monies
that
are
collected
through
community
benefits
charges
be
paid
into
a
special
account
and
then
every
year
six
it
it's.
D
It
is
required
that
60
of
that
money
be
either
allocated
or
spent.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different
because
those
services
and
facilities
have
already
been
identified
in
the
community
benefits
charges
strategy.
So
it's
not
like.
We
could
undertake
public
consultation
on
what
it
could
be
spent
for
because
that's
what
is
defined
within
the
strategy
itself.
G
G
D
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
so
specifically
with
respect
to
how
the
monies
will
be
spent,
for
example,
on
public
car.
So
I
would
think
that
at
the
end
of
the
year
we
would
be
coming
to
together
with
with
the
respective
departments.
So,
for
example,
in
this
case
the
arts
and
culture
services
as
to
identifying
opportunities
for
public
art
and
and
what
those
locations
could
be.
So
that's
that's
how
it
would
be
done.
I
think
at
this
stage,
that's
that's
what
my
understanding
is.
G
D
So
I
would
think
that,
for
example,
for
with
respect
to
public
art
at
168
division
street,
the
city
did
undertake
public
consultation
on
on
the
three
murals
and
the
three
artists
that
were
proposed.
So
I
am
thinking
something
similar
to
that,
where
the
public
would
be
invited
to
provide
their
input
on
a
few
options.
G
D
G
Yeah,
we
have
a
very
active
and
I've
served
on
it
for
some
time.
Arts
advisory
committee,
which
has
both
community
benef
community
representation,
as
well
as
a
couple
of
counselors,
is
that
the
kind
of
committee
that
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
with
a
set
amount
of
budgeted
money
to
decide
how
it
would
be
spent.
D
N
D
D
N
My
point
is
merely
that
that's
not
engaging
and
so
councils
would
have
to
be
dedicated
to
supplying
not-for-profit
housing
and
affordable
housing.
Much
in
addition
to
that,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
what
the
term
was.
I've
got
a
couple,
other
questions,
the
you
answered
a
couple
of
them:
okay,
so
now
that
we
don't
have
us
cbcs
related
to
the
request
for
additional
height
and
density,
how
will
those
requests
be
handled
as
they
are
now
without
concern
for
community
benefits?
D
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Councilor
hutchison,
so
the
planning
at
section
37
of
the
planning
act
does
no
longer
includes
that
language
so
and
it
does
not
provide
that
authority
to
the
city.
So
we
won't
be
able
to
negotiate
on
a
site
specific
basis
if
an
increase
in
height
or
density
is
proposed
for
a
project.
D
N
So
I
get
that
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
Thank
you
very
much,
but
I
got
that
from
the
report
and
from
the
comments.
What
I
was
just
trying
to
ask
routine
is
that
that'll
be
planning
as
as
usual,
without
just
minus,
for
additional
requests
of
additional
height
and
density
will
be
planning
as
usual,
without
concern
for
the
other
than
the
applications.
N
E
Sure
the
housing
homelessness
plan,
if
the
housing
and
homelessness
plan
that
that
lays
out
the
contribution
target
towards
affordable
housing
had
identified
approximately
24
units
a
year
when
it
was
prepared
previously.
So
that
provision
is
the
basis
for
those
incremental
units
for
the
purpose
of
calculating
the
cbc.
N
Okay,
it's
completely
inadequate,
like
it's
breathtaking,
so
I
have
a
question
from
mr
brenda
that
goes
further
than
that
which
has
more
to
do
with
the
basis
of
the
analysis
and
I'm
not
questioning
the
analysis.
I've
been
more
or
less
following
reasoning:
the
in
the
annual
housing
forecast,
which
appears-
and
I
think
exhibit
a
no
appendix
excuse
me-
there's
an
annual
housing
forecast
for
the
city,
and
it
looks
at
2012
through
2021
housing
units
and
beyond
and
the
average
which
is
shown
by
an
orange
lions.
N
I'm
saying
all
this
because
it
helped
mr
grunder
orientate
himself
to
this
report,
the
it's
about
780,
just
below
800
years
a
year
and
they
range
from
439
units
to
2016
to
1372
units
in
2020
and
the
thing
that
caught
my
eye
was.
I
presume
these
are
units
that
were
built
and
are
projected
to
be
built,
and
that
has
a
lot
to
do
with
how
we
form
our
policies
and
make
our
decisions
and
council.
N
E
That
would
suggest
the
lower
internet
going
forward.
I
would
suggest
that,
while
that
is
the
the
best
available
source
of
information
at
this
time,
that
those
will
be
updated
in
the
future.
As
I
understand-
and
I
think,
like
other
municipalities,
what
the
city
may
be,
anticipating
is
that
those
will
be
completed.
The
service
interviews
will
be
done
in
anticipation
of
the
next
dc
study,
and
most
municipalities
will
be
considering
or
reconsidering
their
cbc's
as
a
relative
result
of
that
as
well.
E
N
C
Thank
you,
counselor
I'll,
look
to
committee
members
in
front
of
me
in
person
and
on
the
screen.
Final
call,
seeing
no
other
movement
at
this
point
thanks
everyone
for
your
questions
and
I
didn't
mean
to
skip
you
earlier.
I
apologize
for
that.
So
now
we
will
close
the
public
meeting
on
community
benefits
and
move
to
our
next
public
meeting
following
the
same
orders
on
44-62,
barbara
avenue,
and
we
have
a
city,
oh
counselor,
neil,
I
see
your
hand.
Is
that
a
point
of
order.
C
C
O
O
The
purpose
of
the
public
meeting
is
for
the
applicant
to
present
their
proposal
to
the
public
and
planning
committee
and
answer
questions
from
committee
and
members
of
the
public
staff
have
prepared
a
public
meeting
report
summarizing
their
proposal
and
feedback
received
this
evening
will
be
addressed
by
planning
staff
within
a
future
comprehensive
report.
Once
technical
review
of
the
application
is
complete
and
staff
are
ready
to
make
a
recommendation.
P
Good
evening,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
good
evening,
members
of
the
public
committee
and
staff.
My
name
is
kelsey
jones
and
I'm
a
land
use
planner
with
photon
in
kingston,
I'm
here
this
evening,
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
hjk1
holdings,
to
present
an
application
for
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
the
property
at
44
to
62
barbara
avenue,
and
to
receive
comments
from
the
public
and
committee
next
slide.
Please,
this
property
is
located
in
the
king's
court
neighborhood.
It
is
east
of
alfred
street
west
of
division
and
south
of
barbara
avenue.
P
The
area
is
generally
comprised
of
residential
uses,
with
single
detached
dwellings
and
typical
building
heights
range
from
one
to
two
excuse
me
two
stories
as
well.
There
are
two
and
three-story
multi-unit
dwellings
that
transition
towards
division
street
and
there
is
a
six-story
apartment,
building
located
north
of
the
property
just
west
of
division
street
on
barbara
avenue.
P
The
image
on
this
slide
shows
an
aerial
view
of
the
surrounding
area,
with
a
600
meter
walking
radius.
So
this
image
illustrates
the
proximity
of
the
property
to
multiple
parks,
open
spaces,
schools,
transit
routes
and
as
well,
commercial
uses
which
are
north
and
south
of
the
property
along
division
street
next
slide.
Please.
P
The
site
consists
of
44
to
62
barber
avenue.
It
has
an
area
of
just
over
2
800
square
meters
and
about
36
meters
of
frontage
on
barbara
avenue.
As
seen
in
the
image
on
this
slide,
the
property
is
currently
developed.
It
has
two
rows
of
two-story
townhouses,
so
there's
a
row
of
four
units
which
face
directly
onto
barbara
avenue
and
then
there's
a
second
row
of
six
units
which
are
interior
to
the
property
to
the
south.
P
Vehicle
access
is
provided
to
the
property
from
an
existing
gravel
driveway
from
barbara
avenue
and
there's
an
existing
right-of-way
over
the
property
adjacent
to
the
east,
which
allows
us
access
for
vehicles
from
barbara
avenue
and
as
well.
Parking
is
provided
along
the
east
portion
of
the
site,
and
there
is
also
one
parking
space
which
is
accessed
directly
from
barbara
avenue
and
that's
in
the
northwest
corner
of
the
site
next
slide.
Please.
P
So
the
top
image
on
the
slide
is
the
front
of
the
dwellings
and
then
the
bottom
image
is
the
rear
view
next
slide,
please
so
similar
to
the
previous
slide.
This
shows
the
front
and
rear
views
of
the
existing
row
of
six
units
that
are
located
interior
of
the
property
next
slide.
Please,
the
image
on
this
slide
illustrates
that
the
site
is
designated
residential
in
the
city's
official
plan.
P
The
official
plan
doesn't
specify
specific
locations
for
low
medium
or
high
density
areas,
but
it
does
provide
density
ranges
and
criterias
to
be
met,
and
this
development
has
a
density
of
just
under
72
dwelling
units
per
net
hectare,
and
this
falls
within
the
medium
density
range
next
slide.
Please.
P
The
image
on
this
slide
illustrates
that
the
site
is
currently
zoned
a5,
which
permits
one
and
two
family
dwellings,
as
well
as
a
variety
of
community
uses.
The
existing
townhouse
dwellings
on
this
property
are
legal
non-conforming,
and
this
has
been
confirmed
through
a
review
and
letter
provided
by
city
staff
next
slide.
Please.
P
This
slide
outlines
the
zoning
for
the
property
under
the
new
zoning
bylaw
and
demonstrates
that,
generally,
the
permitted
uses
of
this
zone
the
same,
but
instead
refer
to
the
built
form.
So
townhouse
dwellings
are
not
permitted
in
this
zone
either
and
therefore
that's
the
reason
we
are
seeking
the
zoning
by-law
amendment
next
slide.
Please,
the
intent
of
this
application
is
to
permit
one
bedroom
dwelling
units
in
the
basement
of
each
townhouse
dwelling
so
effectively.
This
will
increase
the
number
of
dwelling
units
on
the
property
from
the
existing
10
to
20..
P
P
An
amenity
area
will
continue
to
be
provided
in
the
front
and
rear
yards
and
landscaping
will
be
added
and
improved
to
differentiate
the
amenity
areas
for
each
unit
and
as
well,
new
pathways
and
accessible
walkways
will
be
provided
from
barbara
avenue
throughout
the
site
to
each
dwelling
entrance
next
slide.
Please.
P
This
slide
provides
the
typical
floor
plan
for
the
proposed
one-bedroom
basement
units,
as
well
as
the
typical
floor
plan
for
the
existing
three-bedroom
units,
which
currently
occupy
the
main
and
second
floors
of
each
townhouse.
So
the
existing
units
are
two
stories
for
the
row
of
townhouses
along
barbara
avenue.
The
new
basement
entrances
will
be
at
the
rear,
but
the
front
entrances
for
the
existing
three-bedroom
units
will
be
at
the
front
and
then
for
the
row
of
townhouses
interior
of
the
site.
P
P
P
So
an
amendment
is
being
sought
to
define
as
well
as
to
allow
this
new
use
on
the
property
a
reduced
regard.
Setback
is
proposed
to
recognize
the
existing
built
form,
so
this
reduced
setback
is
related
to
the
southern
building
and
set
back
to
the
south
lot
line,
which
technically
is
defined
as
a
rear
lot
line
by
the
zoning
bylaw,
but
it
functions
as
an
interior
side
yard
due
to
the
orientation
of
that
southern
building.
P
We
are
seeking
an
increase
to
the
lot
occupancy
and
density
to
allow
the
additional
units
on
the
property.
The
existing
a5
zone
does
not
have
a
maximum
density
requirement,
and
the
proposed
b2
zone
permits
a
maximum
density
of
69
dwelling
units
per
net
hectare.
We
are
seeking
to
increase
the
permitted
density
to
71.2
dwelling
in
its
periodic
temperature,
so
just
a
slight
increase
as
well.
Two
amendments
are
proposed
related
to
parking.
P
P
In
zoning
bylaw
2022-62,
so
the
city's
new
zoning
bylaw,
it
is
proposed
to
change
the
parent
zone
from
ur-13
to
urm2
and
to
apply
an
exception
overlay
to
address
the
performance
standards
and
amendments
proposed
you'll.
Note
that
we're
not
seeking
to
amend
the
permitted
uses
of
the
zone
and
that's
because
stacked
townhouses
are
a
use
that
is
defined
by
the
new
bylaw
and
are
permitted
in
the
urm2
zone.
P
In
summary,
the
proposed
application
is
consistent
with
the
provincial
policy
statement,
as
the
development
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
is
an
efficient
use
of
service
land
within
the
city's
urban
boundary
as
well.
The
proposal
conforms
to
the
official
plan
as
the
site
is
located
in
proximity
to
parks,
transit
and
schools.
P
H
M
You
sorry,
but
I
asked
because
of
my
previous
experience
of
messing
up,
so
thank
you
for
that.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
an
appropriate
question,
but
I
wondered
if
the
properties
are
going
to
remain,
aren't
going
to
be
rental.
I
I
do
have
no
is
it
I'll
put
it
differently
is
here
is
applicant's
intention
for
it
to
be
rental
or
to
be
condo,
condo
type
operation.
C
C
P
Q
P
Through
you,
mr
chair,
yes,
that
is
correct.
No
trees
are
proposed
to
be
removed
through
this
application
and
although
we
are
seeking
to
reduce
the
rear
yard
setback,
that
really
is
a
technical
excuse
me,
a
technicality.
You
know
the
the
yards
have
existed.
You
know
for
over
60
years,
since
the
the
buildings
were
constructed.
P
C
Thank
you
and
I
see
no
other
hands
I'll.
Give
one
final
call
for
committee
all
right.
Thank
you.
Everyone!
Thank
you,
miss
jones.
Thank
you,
miss
vanvoot.
We
will
now
move
to
our
third
public
meeting
and
to
clarify
again
from
the
beginning.
That
is
not
the
public
meeting
for
now.
I've
confused
myself
with
my
own
files
here.
That
is
not
the
public
meeting
for
630
princess
street.
It
will
be
for
the
application
at
2539
isle
of
man,
road
and
we'll
recognize
that
formally
when
we
get
to
the
business
portion
of
the
meeting.
C
R
R
C
S
Thank
you
hi.
My
name
is
ken
paul.
My
address
is
2578
isle
of
man
road.
As
far
as
I
understand,
the
proposal
for
the
site-specific
rezoning
relates
to
a
severance
application
that
I
put
in
the
the
two
proposed
building:
lots
order,
the
redo
canal
area,
and
so
the
site-specific
rezoning
is
going
to
protect
the
waterfront
and
all
of
the
trees
that
are
currently
there
to
make
sure
that
if
and
when,
there's
a
residential
building
on
the
property,
absolutely
none
of
the
existing
trees
or
the
waterfront
will
be
disturbed.
S
Also,
the
katahakuri
region
conservation
authority
proposed
a
development
agreement
which
I'm
also
okay
with,
which
is
just
kind
of
further
solidifies,
that
nothing
along
the
water
or
the
existing
tree
line
can
be
touched.
So
I'm
not
really
an
expert
at
it.
I'll
leave
I'll
leave
the
rest
to
tim
fisher
or
whoever
on
the
city
planning
department,
is
making
their
proposals,
and
I'm
here
for
any
additional
questions
at
any
point
in
time.
Thank
you.
H
C
Q
Protecting
the
woodland
and
protecting
the
waterfront,
I'm
in
the
comments
from
the
rideau
waterway
to
mr
fisher,
so
maybe,
mr
fisher,
you
can
answer
this.
It
looks
like,
though,
if
one
of
the
homeowners
did
want
to
apply
for
a
permit
for
a
dock
that
they
could
still
possibly
get
a
dock.
It's
just
that
they
can't
go
and
build
a
dock.
What
they
would
have
to
do
is
contact
the
parks,
canada,
rideau
canal
office
and
and
then
they
could
apply
for
a
dock,
a
boat
house,
a
launch
ramp
beaches.
Q
R
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I
can
easily
answer
that
there
for
you.
No,
the
the
recommendation
here
would
be
to
not
allow
any
building
whatsoever
along
the
waterfront
itself,
so
that
would
include
any
boat
houses,
docks
that
sort
of
thing,
and
that
would
be
stated
within
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment,
which
you
will
see
through
the
comprehensive
report.
C
T
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair
councillor,
osanac
here
you're
correct.
They
knew
potential
owners
of
the
property
could
apply
to
have
a
dock
installer
alarm
along
those
lines,
but
they
still
have
to
go
through
a
review
and
a
permit
process.
It
does
not
mean
they
will
get
it,
they
can
apply
for
it,
but
still
has
to
go
through
a
review
process.
Q
Thank
you
and
then
one
follow-up
to
that,
mr
chair,
and
that
wouldn't
concern
city
council
like
that,
wouldn't
come
to
planning
committee
or
anything.
I
don't
even
know
if
that
would
go
to
the
crca
like
I
I
I
don't
know
anything
about
parks,
canada,
rideau
canal
office,
but
it
sounds
like
there
is
a
relationship
with
that
office
and
the
crca,
so
hopefully
the
crca.
Could
you
know
I
don't
weigh
in
on
the
application?
C
T
C
C
C
I'll
look
for
an
approval
of
the
agenda
as
added
and
again
that
is
just
to
pull
the
public
meeting
that
has
already
been
pulled
and
moved
by
councillor
osanic
second,
by
councillor
hill,
all
those
in
favor
that
pass
is
very
good,
a
confirmation
of
the
minutes.
From
september
1st,
a
mover
and
a
seconder,
please
counselor
neil
councillor
hill.
I
see
no
movement
for
edits
or
comments,
all
those
in
fact
oh
actually
counselor
chapelle
did
you
want
to
comment
on
the
minutes.
C
G
C
R
R
So
the
purpose
and
effect
of
the
application
is
to
change
the
zoning
on
the
subject:
property
to
implement
setbacks
from
woodlands
and
wetlands
and
to
prohibit
an
accessory
boathouse
pump
house
dock
wharf
or
marine
facility
in
a
yard
of
budding
a
lot
line
contiguous
with
a
navigable
waterway
or
water
body
or
within
the
water
body
along
gibraltar.
They
as
a
condition
of
consent.
Next
slide.
Please.
R
So,
mr
paul
did
touch
on
it.
He
mentioned
that
there
was
consent
applications
already
for
this.
This
property,
the
applicant,
received
provisional
approval
for
approval
of
the
of
the
severed
two
new
rural
lots
with
road
frontage
on
isle
man.
Road,
I'm
sorry,
my
son
is
just
totally
bugging
me
here
and
retain
a
parcel
of
land
with
the
existing
single
detached
dwelling
with
frontage
on
island
man,
road,
the
two
consent
applications
were
d1037
2018
and
d1045
2020..
R
Both
of
those
applications
actually
went
through
the
committee
of
adjustment
and
were
approved
again
as
conditions
of
consent.
The
applicant
is
required
to
obtain
a
zoning
vital
amendment
to
implement
the
setbacks
from
the
woodland
wetlands,
as
per
the
recommendations
in
section
8.0
of
the
scoped
environmental
impact
study.
R
R
R
R
Sorry,
so
the
environmental
impact
assessment
took
in
consideration
the
existing
vegetation
and
woodlands
and
wants
to
protect
these
areas,
so
it
is
so
what
they
are
proposing
is
in
keeping
with
the
official
plan
in
trying
to
maintain
and
protect
the
natural
heritage
features
and
also
within
the
wetland
area.
As
you
can
see,
there
is
a
small
wetland
area
on
the
bottom
right
corner,
which
is
an
unevaluated
wetland.
Next
slide
there
please.
R
The
area
which
is
green
are
the
developable
areas
which
are
potentially
outside
of
the
buffered
areas
that
are
subject
to
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment,
and
you
can
see
the
proposed
law
lines
that
are
in
yellow
that
show
where
the
potential
lots
are
gonna
be
located
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
small
green
area
area,
developable
area,
where
the
existing
house
is
right
now
next
slide.
There
please.
R
So
the
zoning
bylaw
provisions
that
we're
looking
at
amending.
Currently
there
is
no
setback
requirement
from
a
woodland
or
wetland
or
shoreline
in
regards
to
shoreline
development
as
well
too.
There
is
also
no
definition
for
drip
line
in
the
current
bylaw
there.
These
sections
are
not
provided
within
the
the
new
city
of
kingston
zoning
bylaw
as
well
too,
so
the
new
bylaw
will
mimic
the
the
proposal
here
for
3274..
R
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
are
looking
at
proposing
a
five
meter
setback
as
measured
from
the
drip
line
of
the
trees
and
the
wetlands
setback
is
30
meters
and,
as
you
can
see,
development
along
the
shoreline
or
in
the
water
is
prohibited
and
again,
like
I
said
we
did,
provide
a
definition
of
dripline
just
so
that
future
land
owners
and
and
staff
have
an
understanding
of
what
the
drip
line
actually
encompasses
next
slide.
Please.
R
R
I
I
can
mention
that,
subject
to
the
consent,
applications
there
are
provisions
for
for
providing
a
hydrogeological
study
which
will
take
in
consideration
the
existing
or
the
proposed
wells
that
are
going
to
be
on
the
two
lots
and
also
taking
consideration
adjacent
wells
as
well.
So
if
there
are
any
negative
impacts
that
would
be
shown
within
the
report
and
addressed
accordingly
next
slide
there
please
so
our
recommendation.
R
The
proposal
is
consistent
with
both
the
provincial
policy
statement
and
conforms
with
the
official
plan
as
it
is.
Maintaining
and
protecting
the
natural
heritage
features
of
the
site
it.
The
appropriate
zoning
provisions
are,
are
appropriate
for
future
development
and
again
the
protection
of
the
natural
vegetation
and
also
the
waterway,
and
this
represents
good
land
use
planning
next
slide
there
please.
R
If
the
application
is
approved,
a
notice
of
passing
will
be
circulated
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
the
planning
act.
Approval
will
permit
the
application
applicant
to
satisfy
the
remainder
of
the
conditions
and
consent
applications
next
slide
there.
Please-
and
I
will
leave
this
in
your
hands
and
again
I'd
like
to
apologize
for
the
interruptions
here.
C
Thank
you,
mr
fisher.
It
was
fine
from
our
end,
so
no
worries
at
all
we're
in
business
portion
now
as
a
reminder,
so
we'll
flip
the
order
of
committee
and
members
of
the
public
first
questions
from
committee,
then
the
public
and
then
we
can
have
a
debate
on
the
floor
with
committee
after
that,
so
I'm
looking
to
anyone
I'll,
maybe
ask
councillor
hill
to
take
the
chair
and
I'll
take
the
floor
quickly.
U
V
Thank
you
and
through
you
vice
chair,
I
heard
everything
you
said.
I
completely
understand
the
direction
that
that's
coming
from
and
and
we
are
actively
encouraging
density
within
the
urban
boundary
and
increased
densities
within
the
urban
boundary
within
the
official
plan,
are
existing
policies
that
specifically
contemplate
and
allow
limited
residential
development
in
the
countryside,
including
well
actually
almost
strictly
through,
like
limited
severances.
V
So
this
lot
does
have
an
existing
allocation
under
the
official
plan
to
allow
for
the
creation
of
two
additional
lots,
so
that
would
result
in
three
so
two
severed
and
retained
post
this
severance.
No
additional
lots
can
be
created
from
any
of
the
three
lots
which
would
allow
for
further
subdivision,
because
there
is
a
maximum
that
can
be
created
from
an
original
log
created
in.
I
believe
in
this
area.
It
is
not
pittsburgh.
V
C
All
righty
thank
you
and
just
to
clarify
that,
because
you
anticipated
my
follow-up
about
potential
subdivisions
in
the
periphery
hinterland,
whatever
we
want
to
call
this
important,
but
you
know
rurally
significant
area:
can
an
application
come
through
to
change
the
rules
around
severance?
So
I
hear
what
you're
saying
currently,
but
could
another
zoning
application
look
to
further
subdivide
if
the
council
of
the
day
were
to
approve
it.
U
V
Thank
you,
and
through
you
again
vice
chair
as
the
approval
authority
of
the
planning
act.
We
have
to
deal
with
the
applications
that
come
before
us
from
members
of
the
public
on
a
property
whether
or
not
staff
or
council
agree
to
what's
being
proposed
or
whether
or
not
it's
permitted.
On
the
official
plan
we
do
have
to
contemplate
what
comes
in
staff
have
been
voicing
non-support
on
numerous
instances
where
people
have
proposed
rural
estate
lot
subdivisions
or
severances
beyond
what
is
currently
permitted
in
the
official
plan.
V
So
staff
have
been
very
straightforward
and
upfront
with
that.
You
know
non-support
from
a
staff
perspective,
echoing
that
it
could
be
very
difficult
through
the
council
process,
given
the
direction
that
the
city
is
heading
with
intensification
and
growth,
and
so
we
have
not
seen
over
the
past
couple
years
that
I've
not
been
with
the
city
new
proposals
for
estate
residential
lot
subdivisions
make
it
through
to
an
application
to
staff,
which
is
why
you
have
not
seen
one
before
you
hear
a
committee
in
several
years.
Q
Thank
you.
I
just
have
a
question
then
about
the
the
letter
from
that
one
neighbor
who's,
who
has
had
their
well
run
dry,
so
there's
going
to
be
a
hydrology
study
done
and
then
what
happens?
If
that
study
says
that
yeah
putting
the
wells
on
those
three
neighboring
lots
have
affected
their
water,
like
where
you
know.
If
we're
gonna
approve
this
tonight,
what
happens,
then?
If
that
study
says
that
you
know
these,
the
wells
on
these
lots
have
been
adversely
affecting
that
one
existing
homeowner.
V
Through
you,
mr
chair,
just
a
follow-up,
please
so
building
off
what
mr
fischer
has
said
to
date-
and
I
know
I
recognize
that
these
applications
don't
come
forward
to
committee
very
often,
but
when
an
application
for
consent
is
approved
through
the
committee
of
adjustment,
it
is
a
provisional
approval,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval,
one
of
those
being
the
hydro
geological
study
and
a
unique
one
for
this
one.
Is
this
zoning
bylaw
amendment?
V
If
the
report
comes
back
and
is
unsatisfactory
and
the
applicant
cannot
clear
that
condition
of
consent,
then
the
lots
are
not
created
on
the
flip
side
to
that
this
zoning
bylaw
amendment
once
it's
approved
by
council,
will
actually
be
permanent.
So
if
the
lots
are
not
created,
it
does
not
have
a
bearing
on
the
zoning
for
this
property
if
it
isn't
approved
by
committee
and
council,
because
the
zoning
will
be
enacted
impermanent,
regardless
of
whether
the
laws
are
created.
C
H
C
C
C
Further
expansion
of
residential
beyond
it
is
often,
if
not
almost
always
ill-advised,
but
given
the
responses
and
reassurance
from
staff,
particularly
around
the
lack
of
ability
to
at
least
the
current
moment,
further
divide
and
make
a
subdivision
makes
me
feel
comfortable
with
moving
forward,
particularly
because,
as
counselor
sanik
had
us
reassured
that
there
won't
be
tree
loss
and,
as
the
applicant
made
very
clear
to
you
and
that
will
be
actually
baked
into
what
we're
approving
so
I
can
go
forward
tonight.
Thank
you.
I.
C
And
seeing
no
one
else
moving
will
call
to
question
the
recommendation
before
us
all
those
in
favor
and
that
passes
unanimously
alrighty.
So
our
next
item
business
item
b
is
the
supplemental
report
on
998
for
highway,
15.
and
I'll.
Look
to
the
clerk
to
remind
me:
do
we
have
a
oh?
Yes,
there's
miss
roberto
right
there
we
have
a
staff
report
so
take
it
away.
A
A
A
C
It
is
7
52
and
we'll
stay
on
time
on
schedule.
Counselor,
sanic,
neil
myself
and
hell
are
here,
so
we
have
quorum,
which
is
good
and
miss
roberto
before
you
speak.
Let
me
add
one
more
piece
of
context
which
I
was
reminded
of
at
the
break
that,
because
items
b
and
c
are
actually
about
the
same
property,
we're
combining
them
in
terms
of
getting
the
information
at
asking
questions.
W
I
will
try
to
keep
my
presentation
relatively
brief
tonight
so
as
not
to
be
redundant
in
terms
of
information
that
was
previously
covered
at
the
regular
meeting
on
august.
The
11th
next
slide.
Please,
the
purpose
and
effect
of
the
applications
is
to
redesignate
and
rezone
the
lands
to
develop
a
new
residential
subdivision
containing
243
residential
lots.
A
linear
park
block
a
storm
water
management
pond
and
a
30
meter
wide
environmental
protection
area
along
the
great
cataract
way.
River
and
rideau
canal
next
slide.
W
Townhouse
dwellings
are
located
along
street
c
shown
in
orange,
while
streets,
a
b
and
d
contain
primarily
single
detached
dwellings,
shown
in
yellow
all
proposed
residential
lots,
provide
a
minimum
of
two
on-site
parking
spaces
in
the
form
of
a
driveway
and
garage.
Each
slot
also
includes
outdoor
landscape
space
in
the
form
of
a
front
and
rear
yard.
W
A
30
meter
wide
environmental
protection
area
is
proposed
along
the
length
of
the
waterfront
which
abuts
a
linear
park
block
with
park
gats
at
both
the
north
and
south
ends
of
street
b.
A
storm
water
management,
wet
pond,
is
proposed
adjacent
to
the
north
park
block
to
mitigate
any
adverse
water
quality
effects
from
the
site.
Next
slide.
W
At
that
time,
planning
committee
passed
a
motion
to
defer
the
recommendation
contained
in
the
comprehensive
report,
as
shown
here
in
order
to
allow
planning
and
legal
staff
to
provide
additional
information
regarding
the
insurability
of
the
proposed
common
element
condominium
and
to
provide
a
legal
opinion
on
the
potential
risk
to
the
city
associated
with
the
proposed
condominium.
Corporation
planning
and
legal
services
staff
have
worked
together
to
provide
the
information
requested
by
the
deferral
motion,
including
a
more
detailed
review
of
the
requirements
for
common
element
condominiums
under
the
condominium
act
in
ontario
next
slide.
W
W
These
requirements
include
insurance
for
damage
that
is
caused
by
major
perils,
as
well
as
comprehensive
liability
insurance.
In
addition
to
insurance
requirements.
A
condominium
corporation
must
also
establish
and
maintain
a
reserve
fund
for
repairs
to
common
elements
which,
in
the
case
of
this
proposal,
would
be
the
rock
wall
and
safety
zone
by
way
of
contributions
from
condominium
fees.
W
This
fund
must
be
kept
separate
from
the
ongoing
account
and
pardon
me
the
operating
account
and
can
only
be
used
for
major
repairs
in
order
to
ensure
that
proper
funds
are
available
within
that
reserve.
The
act
requires
that
a
reserve
fund
study
be
prepared,
with
periodic
updating
to
forecast
that
such
such
repairs
and
to
recommend
a
plan
for
their
funding.
W
If
the
condominium
war
were
to
fail
to
satisfy
its
duty
to
maintain
the
rock
wall,
it
could
be
subject
to
enforcement
action
or
liability
under
the
occupiers.
Liability
act
in
the
unlikely
event
that
the
condominium
corporation
is
terminated
at
any
point
in
the
future.
The
common
elements
being
the
rock
wall
would
not
become
the
responsibility
of
the
city
under
the
act
or
at
law.
W
So
in
summary
of
our
position
this
evening,
planning
services
continues
to
recommend
the
approval
of
these
applications
for
official
plan
amendment
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
draft
plan
of
subdivision.
The
proposal
will
provide
for
the
repurposing
of
an
underutilized
former
quarry
site
that
is
located
within
the
urban
boundary
adjacent
to
established
residential
neighborhoods.
W
The
proposed
subdivision
is
compatible
with
the
adjacent
unesco
world
heritage
site
and
will
provide
for
the
re-naturalization
and
continued
protection
of
the
environmental
protection
area
on
the
site.
The
proposed
development
is
consistent
with
provincial
policy,
conforms
to
the
purpose
intent
of
the
official
plan
and
represents
good
land
use
planning
next
slide.
W
Applications
for
final
plan
of
condominium,
such
as
this
are
to
be
brought
to
planning
committee
and
council
for
their
approval
with
that
I'll
pass
it
over
to
committee,
but
we
are
available,
of
course,
for
any
questions
we
have
with
us
this
evening:
jenna
morley,
director
of
legal
services
and
city
solicitor,
for
any
legal
matters
that
may
come
up
as
well
as
various
other
members
of
the
applicants
project
team.
So
I
will
direct
questions
appropriately
as
they're
received.
Thank
you.
C
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
have
several
questions
so
through
you,
one
of
the
questions
is
so
for
highway.
15,
that's
above
the
rock
cliff
like
the
snow
that
gets
pushed
by
the
snow
plow
on
highway.
15.
like
right
now,
there's
a
chain
link
fence
at
the
top
of
highway
15.
the
snow
would
be
pushed
against
that
fence,
because
the
shoulder's,
not
all
that
wide
and
and
then
all
that
water
will
just
kind
of
melt
in
in
march
and
april,
like
down
the
rock
cliff.
Is
that
right?
Like?
Q
W
W
I
know
the
applicant's
project
team
has
been
looking
in
great
detail
at
the
various
stormwater
management
tools
that
are
available
to
manage
future
water
drainage
in
this
particular
location
of
the
site
as
it
comes
down
and
through
the
wall.
So
I
will
defer
to
to
mr
nielsen
to
speak
to
some
of
those
tools
that
will
be
available
and
would
ultimately
be
reviewed
by
city
staff
and
finalized
through
the
final
plan
of
subdivision.
X
Kyle
nielsen
for
engineering,
I'm
the
applicant's
engineer
on
this
file,
so
there
is
a
ditch
along
highway,
15
that
directs
drainage
both
to
the
north
and
to
the
south.
There's
there's
a
drainage
outlet,
that's
south
of
the
parcel
to
our
south
and
then
there's
a
drainage
outlet
also
to
the
north,
but
as
part
of
the
final
plan
of
subversion
of
approval,
which
is
our
which
is
our
next
step.
X
We
are
going
to
do
a
detailed
design
of
the
highway
50
intersection
to
this
site,
as
well
as
assessing
any
of
the
surface
drainage
along
highway.
15..
Currently,
there's
a
ditch,
berm
and
fence.
Have
you
set,
as
you
said,
we're
going
to
be
reviewing
if
guide
rail
is
required
and
if
drainage
improvements
are
required
along
that
corridor
to
to
eliminate
any
ponding
above
the
wall
and
on
the
benching
of
the
wall,
as
you
said,
to
to
review
any
ice
build-up.
Q
Thank
you.
My
second
question
is,
let's
see
so
the
stabilization
that
that
you'll
be
doing
of
the
rock
wall
is
basically
from
what
I've
read
like
the
mesh
and
everything
is
just
to
stabilize
any
loose
rocks
from
falling
down
right
to
stabilize
that
with
that
stabilization.
You're
doing.
Is
that
also
going
to
help
to
plug
up
any
of
the
holes
in
the
limestone
where
water
can
seep
out?
Q
You
know,
like
I
know
we
said
this
last
month
when
we
had
the
public
meeting,
you
drive
along
the
401
and
whenever
we
have
like
a
downpour
like
we
did
back
on
tuesday
or
whatever
day
it
was,
we
had
that
huge
rainstorm.
You
know,
there's
been
so
many
of
them
this
summer
and
you
can
just
see
the
water
coming
right
through
the
the
limestone
rock
there
at
the
401
montreal
street
401
and
division
street.
So
with
this
stabilization
you're
doing
to
this
rock
wall.
Is
that
going
to
help?
X
Do
you
miss
your
chair,
so
the
so
there's
a
couple
different
things
yeah,
like
you
said
the
mesh
is
to
prevent
any
loose
rock
from
falling
down.
So
in
areas
where
you're
talking
where
there's
kind
of
exfiltration
and
there
could
be
a
cavity,
a
cavity
per
se,
those
cavities
there'd
be
rock
bolting
done
in
those
areas
and
then
possibly
some
shock
creep
grouting.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
is
you
won't
stop
complete
exfiltration
from
coming
into
that
wall?
X
The
water
is
going
to
come
out
of
those
the
wall
so
there's
other
things.
We're
going
to
look
at
in
those
situations
is
there's
some
there's
drainage
board
that
can
be
integrated
with
the
mesh
and
then
there's
looking
at
the
cause
of
the
water
coming
through
that
wall
and
then
and
then,
where
that
water
is
gonna
drain
are
gonna,
be
the
most
the
two
important
things
we're
gonna
look
at.
Q
Thank
you
for
you,
mr
chair,
so
when
again
over
to
forefront
engineering
when
the
water
comes
then
down
the
rock
wall,
whether
it
be
like
the
winter
time,
the
spring
in
the
summer,
the
fall.
I
know
that
in
the
the
safety
area,
that's
where
you
sit
in
the
last
meeting,
there's
going
to
be
a
pretty
sophisticated
drainage
right
to
that's
going
to
be
there
in
the
ground
to
capture
the
water.
Q
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
about
sediment
because
in
the
fall
you
know
you're
going
to
get
grit.
I
think
a
lot
of
grit
even
coming
off
of
highway
15.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
in
the
air
I'll
fall
down
there.
So
how
often
are
the
homeowners
going
to
you
know
have
to
get
rid
of
the
sediment
and
and
say
a
homeowner
doesn't
get
rid
of
the
sediment?
How?
How
is
all
that
going
to
be
taken
care
of,
or
are
we
just
going
to
say
that's
up
to
the
condo
corporation,
to
figure
out.
X
So
as
far
as
sediment
going
up
coming
off
highway
15.,
it
won't
be
any
different
really
than
any
other
lot
backing
onto
a
highway,
except
for,
like
you
said,
is
there
will
be
some
exfiltration
and
then
possibly
creating
some
additional
sediment
that
the
safety
area
at
the
bottom
of
the
wall
will
be
vegetated.
So
it's
gonna,
there's
gonna,
be
there
is
gonna,
be
natural
grass
that
attenuates
in
that
area
that
that
will
actually
filter
out
the
majority
of
that
sediment.
Q
Oh,
you
know
like
there's
like
a
drain
that
goes
between
my
backyard
and
the
guy
behind
me,
and
the
city
hasn't
been
out
to
clear
the
drain
in
a
long
long
time
and
and
so
like
every
time
you
know
I
go
through
the
election,
I
have
to
write
down
the
homes
that,
like
that
say
this
and
send
a
work
order
off
to
staff
to
get
them
to
come
and
clear
it
out.
So
I
just
want
to
hear
one
more
time.
So
in
this
case
it's
not
the
city
that
will
clear
out
that
drain.
X
Q
I
see
all
right,
so
some
would
be
the
city's
responsibility.
I
don't
know,
whoever
is
the
district
counselor
for
that
area.
I
think
they're
going
to
be
getting
that
question
asked
a
lot
so
staff,
if
you
could
make
note
in
I
don't
know
in
for
future,
like
that's,
got
to
be
nailed
down,
which
ones
is
the
city's
and
which
ones
is
the
condo
corporations,
because
I
think
that's
going
to
be
confusing
once
these
homes
are
built.
Q
C
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
I
want
to
thank
our
our
planner
miss
roberta
for
her
effort
in
this.
It's
it's
a
complex.
It's
a
file,
it's
not
a
simple
everyday
file,
and
so
your
patience
in
answering
questions
from
from
council
is
appreciated,
but
I
do
have
one
additional
question
that
I'm
still
not
fully
comfortable
with,
and
that
is
the
I
know
we're
talking
about
a
30
meter,
setback
from
the
waterfront
and
then
and
there's
a
row
of
houses
along.
L
I
guess
is
roll
b
or
whatever
it
is
the
first
row
along-
and
I
I
I
mentioned
it
in
the
last
session-
about
maybe
not
having
those
houses
there
to
have
more
of
a
continuance
of
green
space,
leading
up
to
the
property,
that's
owned
by
the
city
going
forward
and
and
there,
and
that
will.
I
also
have
an
additional.
L
You
know,
distance,
that
away
from
the
waterfront
to
help
preserve
the
unesco
heritage,
site
and
designation,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
there
was
any
correspondence
with
unesco,
letting
them
know
what
we
were
considering
doing
and
if
that
is
in
fact
in
jeopardy
by
having
a
home.
So
close
to
the
the
rito
cataract
river
runner.
W
W
That
is
something
that
staff
looked
at
and
I
think
ultimately,
it
was
something
that
we
looked
at
closely
in
terms
of
the
intent
behind
the
policies
of
the
official
plan
for
a
single
loaded
road
and
what
the
intent
of
those
policies
ultimately
are
being
to
provide
for
preservation
of
views
to
the
water
and
public
access
to
the
water.
And
so
we
ultimately
found
that
the
subdivision
design
that
is
proposed
does
do
a
good
job
of
preserving
views
to
the
water
in
key
locations
being
at
the
bottom
of
street.
W
L
W
P
So
they've
been
advised
of
this
proposal,
they're
aware
of
the
the
quarry
wall
being
included
as
a
common
element
and
through
their
initial
kind
of
preliminary
review.
You
know
we're
early
in
this
process.
They
can't
provide
any
definitive.
You
know
numbers
or
anything
like
that,
but
through
their
preliminary
assessment
of
the
proposal,
they
don't
anticipate
any
issues
with
providing
insurance,
whether
it's
through
the
condominium
board
or
for
individual
homeowners.
L
And
is
that
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be
a
covenant
with
the
developer?
Who
develops
the
homes?
That's
you
know
like
what
what
if
they
can't
get
insurance
if
something
happens
and
they
unable
to
get
insurance?
What
do
we
do?
Do
we,
as
a
city,
do
we
allow
people
to
to
have
a
home
without
insurance
like
how?
How
do
we
compensate
for
that?
I
don't
understand
what
would
be
the
backstop.
C
Y
L
So
real,
really
this
this
question
is
sort
of
amoebic.
In
the
sense
it's
still
in
being
formulated,
we
don't
have
an
actual,
definitive
understanding
if
a
homeowner
has
purchased
a
property,
if
they'll
be
able
to
get
insurance,
it's
potentially
they
can
get
insurance,
but
they
may
not
be
able
to,
or
maybe
they
may
be,
a
higher
premium
and
similar
for
the
condo
corp,
and
is
that
what
I'm
to
take
from
that
conversation.
C
T
L
No
no,
mr
park,
I
wasn't
imposing
it
as
a
condition
of
the
planning
what
I
was
trying
to
reframe
the
response
in
a
way
to
make
sure
that
I
fully
understood
that
from
what
I
was
being
told,
that
it
is
a
potential
for
a
homeowner
or
an
econo
corp
to
get
insurance.
However,
rates
have
not
been
assessed
at
this
point.
It's
more
of
an
amoebic
approach.
This
potential,
but
nothing's
really
been
confirmed.
L
T
T
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
through
you,
we
do
have
three
members
of
the
public
with
us
at
this
time
and
we'll
just
ask
if
there's
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
to
the
current
application
on
the
floor.
If
you
could,
please
raise
your
hand
and
zoom
and
mr
chair
we're
going
to
turn
it
over
to
vikki
schmoka.
C
Z
C
Z
All
right,
I'm
disappointed
in
that,
but
I
it's
been
very
busy
day
for
me
for
various
reasons.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
councillor
chappelle's
question,
because
I
think
it's
a
very
important
one,
mr
park
replied
that
it
it's
not
the
city's
business
about
homeowner
insurance
and
I
think,
that's
perfectly
fair.
But
I
think
the
real
question
is:
is
the
rock
wall
insurable?
Z
Is
the
condo
corporation
going
to
be
able
to
obtain
insurance
for
the
rock
wall,
and
I
think
that
perhaps
my
question
to
planning
staff,
if
I
may
would
be,
is
it
possible
to
put
a
holding
symbol
on
the
development
application
such
that
final
approval
won't
be
given
site
plan
approval
or
whatever
won't
be
given
until
there's
proof
that
the
rock
wall
can
be
insured,
and
I
would
suggest
that
maybe
there's
an
issue
of
the
reasonableness
of
the
rates.
There's
a
condo
court.
Z
I
mean
condo.
Corp
fees
go
from
a
hundred
dollars
a
month
to
two
thousand
dollars
a
month
and
that
really
affects
the
affordability
of
a
condominium
and
that
development.
So
I
think
this
is
extremely
pertinent
to
the
planning
application
is.
Is
this
really
a
feasible
development
given
some
of
the
constraints,
and
I
do
believe
there
should
be
a
development
in
this
location?
I
am
not
speaking
against
the
development
per
se.
Z
I'm
just
saying
there
are
some
issues
here
that
need
to
be
addressed,
and
you
know
I
note
that
mr
nielsen
said
water
is
going
to
come
out
of
the
wall
and
I
know
that
I've
heard
from
a
geologist
at
queen's
when
water
comes
out
of
the
wall
and
it
freezes
it
pushes
that
mesh
off
the
wall.
So
we
haven't
yet
heard-
and
I
haven't
seen
in
the
documents
real
real
proof-
that
that
wall
is
not
going
to
have
rock
falling
off
it
and
again
I
just
want
to
raise
something.
Z
So
my
question
is
how
much
fill
is
going
to
be
used
throughout
the
site,
and
this
affects
how
tall
the
buildings
will
appear
from
the
water,
because
if
it's
three
meters
of
fill
and
there's
a
13.5
meter
house,
then
the
buildings
are
going
to
be
16.5
meters
above
the
water.
But
if
it's
eight
meters
of
bill,
then
a
13.5
meter
house
is
going
to
be
21.5
meters
above
the
water,
which
leads
to
the
question
of
trees.
Z
We
got
a
lawyer
to
write
you
that
that
opinion
to
clarify
for
you
that
in
his
in
his
opinion,
there
is
no
ecological
assessment
that
proves
there
will
be
no
negative
impacts
from
putting.
I
think
it's
two
rows
of
houses
and
a
roadway
in
120
meter
buffer
area
from
a
potentially
significant
wetland,
and
I
do
think
that
is
a
great
problem
and
I
certainly
support
anyone
on
planning
committee.
Z
Who's
suggested,
removing
houses
in
the
watts
224
to
243
from
that
which
are
the
lots
on
the
water
side
of
the
single
of
of
the
road.
The
now
double
road
loaded
road
along
the
water.
It
really
should
be
a
single
loaded,
road
and
and
that's
not
losing
a
lot
of
houses.
It's
losing
houses
that
really
affect
the
whole
viewscape
and
the
s
sensitivity
of
the
water
area,
and
I
refuse
to
believe
that
30.
C
Z
Don't
have
a
negative
impact
on
a
provincially,
significant
wetland,
and
that
is
the
test
in
the
provincial
policy
statement.
That
is
the
test
in
the
conservation
authority,
section
5.2,
which
was
on
my
slides
and
you're,
even
giving
up
a
bit
of
the
30
meter
buffer,
I
believe
in
the
southeast
portion
of
the
of
the
of
the
proposal.
So
this
is
not
a
environmentally
friendly
proposal.
From
that
point
of
view,
I
just
wish
the
developer
and
staff
had
worked.
C
C
C
Yeah,
that
is
fair,
I'm
sorry!
I
wasn't
trying
to
cut
that
short
you're
right.
That
is
true.
So
that's
a
that's
a
a
good
point
to
make.
So
we'll
continue
with
questions
right
now.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
take
that
away,
you're
welcome
to
our
other
counselors
counselor
sanik.
Would
you
like
to
continue
questioning
right
now.
W
Those
views
have
certainly
been
prioritized
in
our
review
of
this
application.
In
particular,
I
know
that
was
a
priority
of
parks,
canada
in
their
their
review
of
the
application,
and
they
have
received
assurances
that
those
views
will
be
preserved
and
that
the
proposed
heights
of
the
dwellings
within
the
subdivision
and
the
opportunity
for
screening
in
the
form
of
new
and
existing
trees
will
be
such
that
those
views
will
be
preserved
in
the
state
that
is
intended
along
this
portion
of
the
rideau
canal.
W
W
W
W
X
X
There
was
also
a
deeper
section
of
the
quarry
that
had
a
pool
that
was
kind
of
down
almo,
almost
to
the
65,
to
68
meter
mark,
but
along
along
the
water,
the
site
kind
of
was
burned
up
at
an
elevation
of
kind
of
80
to
81
meters.
So
when
we
were
talking
about
phil
on
this
site,
the
minimum
amount
of
fill
required
on
this
site
is
going
to
be
two
and
a
half
meters.
X
In
some
cases,
there's
going
to
be
two
and
a
half
meters
of
fill
in
some
cases,
there's
gonna
be
nine
nine
meters
of
fill,
but,
to
be
quite
honest
along
the
river
along
the
river,
is
gonna,
be
where
there
where's
there's
the
minimum
amount
of
fill,
but
keep
in
mind
we're
going
we're
going
up
to
highway.
15
is
at
an
elevation
of
99
meters
and
the
the
water
is
at
an
elevation
of
76
and
a
half
meters.
So
it's
a
very
complicated
site.
There's
there's
no
average
depth
it
just
it's
very.
X
X
Q
C
Y
Y
In
some
cases
it
may
be
due
to
lack
of
funds
in
order
to
repair
and
there's
just
a
movement
by
the
corporation
itself
to
dissolve
the
corporation
and
have
everybody
own
their
properties
freehold.
But
I
don't
have
the
specifics.
As
I
said
in
the
report,
there's
only
ever
been
a
handful
of
these
in
the
thousands
and
thousands
of
condominium
corporations
that
have
been
established
in
ontario.
Q
C
Q
Y
Morley,
thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
members
of
council
are
not
required
to
be
engineering
experts
when
it
comes
to
assessing
the
integrity
of
these
rock
walls.
The
law
certainly
allows
for
you
to
rely
in
good
faith
on
the
reports
of
qualified
professionals.
So
in
this
case,
I
think
a
rock
stability
review
has
been
completed
by
patterson
group,
who
are
professional
engineers,
and
their
report
contains
a
number
of
recommendations
which
the
property
owner
will
be
compelled
to
implement
through
the
subdivision
process.
Y
If
the
information
contained
in
that
study
was
inaccurate
or
misleading
the
professional
responsibility
and
liability
for
that
lies
with
the
author
of
the
report.
Similarly,
if
the
owner
fails
to
sufficiently
implement
the
required
conditions
with
respect
to
the
walk
rock
wall,
the
liability
rests
with
the
owner.
The
city
does
not
become
automatically
liable
due
to
the
negligence
of
others,
simply
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
it
approved
the
land
use.
Q
Q
When
you
go
door-to-door
and
you
you
know,
you
get
phone
calls
throughout
like
the
four-year
term,
like
we're
always
having
to
be
put
on
the
defensive,
because
everybody
does
want
to
go
to
the
city,
but
you
know
also
too
it's
our
job
right
to
make
sure
that
we
approve
safe
developments.
You
know
and
and
safety
is
always
our
concern,
no
matter
what
we're
approving
a
development,
a
pedestrian
crossing,
implementing
a
pedestrian
crossing,
stop
signs
everything
like
that
is
with
the
city
councillors.
Q
You
know
our
job
to
do
it,
but
I
appreciate
that
lawyer
point
of
view.
Thank
you
for
the.
Let
me
just
pull
this
up
for
the
one
edits
that
we
have
here
so
for
the
rock
like
inspecting
the
rock
wall
is
the
building
inspector.
Are
they
going
to
inspect
the
rock
wall
to
sign
off
on
the
occupancy
permit
when
we
get
to
that
phase.
Y
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
from
a
legal
perspective
that
under
the
condominium
act,
the
board
is
required
to
retain
a
professional
engineer
or
architect
to
perform
a
performance
audit
of
the
common
elements
within
10
months
of
the
condo
declaration
being
registered.
So
there
will
actually
be
an
extensive
inspection
done
of
the
rock
wall
at
that
time.
Q
U
Thank
you
chair,
so
we
can
deliberate
here
tonight
on
land
use
issues
and
and
planning,
but
I
think
I'm
pretty
sure
was
councillor
neal,
who
reminded
me
very
early
when
I
was
on
planning
that
we
can
debate
and
discuss
land
use,
planning
issues,
but
we're
not
here
to
judge
whether
or
not
this
is
a
good
business
plan
and-
and
I
think,
that's
sort
of
what
we're
we're
drifting
into.
In
my
estimation.
U
U
So
I
also
support
this
as
a
as
good
use,
land
use
planning,
and
I
guess
it
just
remains
to
be
seen
if
it's
a
good
business
plan,
but
that's
not
really
for
council
to
decide
and
that's
not
certainly
what
the
ontario
land
tribunal
will
decide
later
on
right,
they're,
going
to
decide
whether
or
not
it
constitutes
good
land
use
planning
and
even
councillor.
Bohm
has
indicated
that
that
the
supplemental
report
has
has
resolved
his
questions,
and
so
I
I
think
it's
it.
It
behooves
us
to
look
at
this
as
okay.
U
That's
desperately
needed
in
the
community
and
and
we've
gotten
some
assurances
from
a
number
of
sources
tonight
now
that
insurance
is,
is
likely
not
going
to
be
an
issue,
and
if
it
is
an
issue,
then
we
can
depend
on
the
good
judgment
of
people
who
would
be
purchasing
these
homes
to
make
a
decision.
Based
on
that,
so
I
think
we
need
to
really
stay
inside
our
lane.
U
L
X
L
Okay,
well,
that
offers
some
clarity,
but
thank
you
appreciate
that,
in
terms
of
of
miss
jenna's
comment
about
the
the
property
you
know,
I
always
thought
that
the
common
perspective,
and
maybe
I've
misread
a
few
of
the
books.
I
read
on
law,
but
I
always
thought
that
the
person
with
the
deepest
pockets
is
the
one
that
gets
included
in
lawsuits.
So
if
there
was
a
lawsuit
to
happen,
I'm
certain
the
city
would
be
included,
even
though
we
probably
have
a
better
defense.
L
L
So
I
just
thought
I
would
clarify
that
a
little
bit
and
my
final
question
is
really
about
the
trees
that
pass
along
the
trees
that
pass
along
the
sorry,
the
house
that
pass
along
the
the
the
condo
corp
with
the
wall
and
since
they're
closest
to
highway
15.
Will
they
have
sufficient
soil
in
their
backyards
as
they
plant
a
tree.
W
L
L
L
X
N
N
Indicating
that
the
trees
would
be
higher
than
any
house
that
would
be
on
the
subject
area.
I
just
want
to
be
sure:
that's
not
just
the
double
loaded
road,
but
also
going
further
up
towards
highway
15..
I
just
realized.
I
didn't
confirm
that
for
my
own
sake,
so
can
someone
just
respond
to
that?
Please.
W
N
W
N
I
also
have
to
be
a
correction
like
there's
a
question
about
phil
in
the
previous
meeting,
and
I
thought
those
were
good
questions
about
what
I
heard
the
engineers
say,
which
was
a
little
bit
different,
because
phil
could
be
any
number
of
things,
but
my
understanding
is
from
the
responses
of
counselor
chapelle
that
there's
going
to
be
two
and
a
half
to
three
meters
of
popsicle
earth
instead
of
earthen
film,
I
believe,
was
what
he
knew.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ascertain
that.
I
heard
that
correct.
X
X
N
N
N
So
part
of
that
is
I'm
not
hopefully
that
will
look
at
you
know
it
has
to
be
capable
of
growing
tree
and
sustaining
it,
so
the
hopefully
I'll
be
looked
at
later,
and
what
I
was
going
to
say
is
last
meeting
about
this
proposal.
I
was
thinking
about
my
own
experiences
with
growing
on
limestone
and
but
what
I
failed
to
think
of
is
that
we
didn't
have
any
seven
eight
ten
feet
of
soil
we
planted.
N
W
For
sure,
I'll
certainly
invite
the
proponent
to
speak
to
that
question
if
they
wish.
But
as
we
know
once
the
condominium
agreement
is
in
place
and
the
condominium
corporation
is
established,
it
will
take
time
for
these
lots
to
be
built
out,
and
so
throughout
that
process
the
proponent
will
continue
to
have
a
stake
within
that
condominium
corporation
and
to
manage
it,
as
those
lots
are
built
and
sold.
C
Y
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
under
the
condominium
act
there
is
a
process
for
a
turnover
meeting,
and
that
happens
once
the
builder
is
no
longer
the
majority
owner.
So
once
that
happens,
it
triggers
that
process
for
the
performance,
audit
and
the
reserve
fund
study
and
things
like
that.
C
N
30
seconds
expensive
thing
about
safe
developments,
and
that
is,
there
can't
be
an
indefinite
amount
of
time
with
the
economy
where
the
developer
or
the
city
is
responsible
for.
What's
going
on,
that's
why
people
have
real
estate
agents,
they
may
have
lawyers,
and
hopefully
those
people
are
being
institutious
about
their
responsibilities.
C
C
W
Certainly
through
the
chair,
and
as
always,
the
the
crca
has
been
very
much
involved
in
the
review
process
of
this
application
and
they've
provided
detailed
comments
in
partnership
with
parks,
canada.
On
every
round
of
technical
review
that
has
occurred
on
the
application,
and
at
this
stage
they
have
confirmed
that
they
are
able
to
support
the
proposed
development.
U
C
Indication,
thank
you,
that's
honorable,
to
clarify
thank
you.
So
we
do
have
round
two
open.
If
not,
this
might
be
a
great
time
to
move
the
items
on
the
floor
and
I
say
items
plural
because
reminder
we're
moving,
b
and
c
together
as
a
combined
recommendation
that
will
have
two
votes
within
it.
One
is
that
we
move
the
the
council
vote
on
this
file.
Should
it
well
when
it
goes
forward
to
september
20th,
our
next
council
meeting
and
then
there's
the
recommendation
on
the
particulars
of
the
bylaw
and
the
zoning.
C
C
All
right
thanks,
the
clerk
is
reminding
that
we're
gonna
do
each
recommendation
separately,
yeah,
so
vote.
One
is
solely
at
this
point
for
moving
the
recommendation
to
council
on
september
20th
and,
if
you're,
looking
where
that
is
it's
right
above
item
c
on
the
agenda.
So
it's
page
11
of
16
and
we're
looking
for
language
that
the
planning
committee
recommends
to
council
on
september
20th
and
that
would
amend
clause
1
of
the
overall
recommendation
before
the
actual
discussion
of
the
zoning
of
the
bylaw.
C
Is
that
clear
to
folks?
Sorry,
if
it's
a
bit
confusing
we're
good
with
that?
Okay,
so
I'll
call
the
vote
all
in
favor
and
that
passes
excellent,
so
vote
one
and
now
vote
two
is
about
the
particularities
of
the
site
and
there
are
one
two
three
four
five
six
seven
different
clauses
there
and
we
need
to
move
her
in
a
second
or
for
those
as
well
counselor
hill,
counselor
osanic.
C
C
Y
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr
chair,
I
don't
have
much
else
to
add
to
the
discussion
of
insurance.
It's
not
relevant
in
any
way
to
the
determination
of
the
land
use.
So
I
don't
view
that
as
an
appropriate
use
of
the
holding
symbol
in
this
case-
and
I
also
don't
know
how
the
applicant
would
be
able
to
satisfy
that
condition-
is
it
from
any
insurance
company
at
all?
Does
it
matter
what
the
rates
are
like?
C
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
the
issue
really
is
about
preservation
of
the
the
heritage
designation
of
that
view
from
the
waters
water
sight
lines
going
up
into
this
old
industrial
site.
In
principle.
I
think
it's
great
that
we're
developing
this
area.
I
just
wish
that
we
would
have
a
greater
buffer
from
the
waterway
and
the
only
way,
even
though
I
requested
it
and
discussed
it
a
number
of
times.
L
That's
up
to
them,
but
I
I
just
think
that
would
be
a
much
better
use
of
of
the
the
appropriate
land
and
make
it
more
of
a
community
space
for
the
enjoyment
of
all
in
that
subdivision.
Considering
there's
only
one
entrance
into
it
and
I'm
still
uncertain
as
to
the
height
of
the
properties
with
throughout
the
property.
So
this
just
gives
me
a
little
more
comfort
to
make
sure
that
the
the
sight
lines
are
a
little
further
away
from
the
waterway
and
as
a
long-term
benefit
for
all
the
residents
of
kingston.
Q
Q
U
W
U
You
know
I
you
know
again,
it's
like.
I
I've
heard
a
few
times
that
that
there's
some
concern
about
the
height,
but
the
height
has
been
established,
and
I
guess
I'm
going
to
ask
ms
roberto
that
again
is
there?
Is
there
a
discrepancy
around
the
heights
or
do
we
know
what
the
heights
are
and
and
have
the
heights
been
approved
again
by
parks,
canada,.
W
Through
the
chair,
in
particular
the
site-specific
zone,
provision,
that's
been
incorporated
for
the
lots
that
are
at
the
highest
elevation
along
street
b.
Then
back
onto
the
water,
at
the
request
of
parks,
canada,
a
maximum
height
of
9.5
meters
and
will
be
implemented
for
those
lots
to
further
restrict
the
heights
on
those
lots
that
would
be
potentially
most
visible
from
the
waterway
and
to
ensure
that
they'll
be
able
to
be
effectively
screened
by
existing
and
new
tree
plantings.
U
C
C
W
C
All
right,
thank
you,
so,
for
the
reasons
like
counselor
chappelle
moved
the
motion
which
I
take
seriously
giving
community
enjoyment
of
the
space.
I
would
then
say:
that's
already
been
answered
before
the
removal
of
these
lots,
going
above
what
we've
required
and
also
making
sure
that
the
ribbon
of
life
is
not
impacted
by
that
park
space.
So
I
cannot
support
the
motion
to
amend.
C
N
C
L
Mr
chair,
I
know
it's
been
a
long
night.
The
ribbon
of
life
is
really
supposed
to
be
a
nature
buffer,
that's
not
utilized
by
the
public.
It's
you
know,
visible
sight
lines.
What
have
you
and
the
little
path
of
four
feet
on
the
fen
along
the
fence,
lines
of
the
houses
that
are
posed
there
as
public
access?
L
I
I
just.
I
think
we
can
do
much
better
as
a
city.
I
just
think
it's
not
sufficient
when
you
consider
the
significance
of
the
parkland
owned
by
the
city
just
north
of
this
development
and
to
have
a
more
contiguous
flow
of
preserved
nature
for
this
side
of
the
the
east
end
subdivision.
I
think
it
just
calls
for
that
reclamation
of
this
old
industrial
site
it.
L
I
just
think,
looking
down
20
years
from
now,
the
residents
of
kingston
will
be
so
grateful
and
that's
why
I'm
I'm
suggesting
that
this
heritage
site
be
protected
and
a
larger
buffer
be
provided.
You
know
just
looking
at
trying
to
always
fit
in
things
into
the
minimum
requirements
is
so
substandard
for
a
great
city
like
kingston,
and
so
I'm
going
to
support
this
motion.
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
address
this.
Thank
you.
C
C
Okay,
thanks,
we'll
call
the
question
then,
on
the
motion
to
amend
all
those
in
favor.
That's
three
and
opposed
three,
so
that
loses
on
a
tie.
Counselor
hill,
hutchison
and
kylie
opposed
so
to
the
motion
before
us,
then,
which
is
our
second
vote
of
the
night
on
the
particular
particularities
of
the
site.
C
C
AA
Okay,
I'll
try
and
keep
this
free
fish.
I
know
people
are
getting
tired,
so
I'll
just
introduce
myself
for
the
benefit
of
anyone
watching
my
name
is
denise
grant
and
I
am
a
senior
planner
within
the
city,
so
I'll
be
presenting
staff's
recommendation,
a
supportive
recommendation
for
an
application
for
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
the
property
at
1752.
AA
So
the
purpose
and
effect
of
the
application
is
to
rezone
the
property
to
a
site-specific
residential
zone
in
order
to
permit
a
10-story
apartment,
building
with
modified
performance
standards
to
permit
the
site
layout
that
you
will
see
in
a
couple
slides
here.
Next
slide,
please
so,
just
as
a
refresher,
the
property
is
located
on
the
north
side
of
bath
road,
just
west
of
its
intersection,
with
mcuben
drive
and
across
the
street
from
crosstalk
secondary
school.
AA
The
property
is
currently
vacant
of
buildings,
but
it
was
previously
developed
with
a
one-story
commercial
building
which
accommodated
an
animal
hospital
abutting.
The
lands
immediately
to
the
north
is
the
cn
rail
main
line
and
across
the
rail
tracks
are
industrial
uses,
including
invista's
kingston
distribution
center
to
the
east
and
west
of
the
site.
Along
bath,
road
are
a
variety
of
commercial
uses,
mostly
one
and
two
stories
in
height
and
newer
eight-story
residential
buildings,
a
butt
front
next
secondary
school
to
the
west,
with
a
lower
density
residue
residential
neighborhood
being
located
behind
the
school
next
slide.
AA
AA
So
the
applicant
sorry,
I'm
leaving
my
voice,
the
applicant
is
requesting
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
by-law
to
rezone
the
site
to
a
site-specific
residential
zone,
and
the
proposed
zoning
would
permit
a
10-story
apartment
building
on
the
site,
which
you
see
the
conceptual
design
on
the
side.
Here,
the
building
would
accommodate
109
residential
units
comprised
of
a
mix
of
one
and
two
bedrooms.
AA
AA
You
might
remember
that
the
original
proposal
for
the
site
was
for
an
eight-story
building
with
88
units,
as
the
project
has
progressed
through
technical
review
and
kind
of
the
market
has
changed,
and
the
funding
availability
for
some
supportive
housing
providers
has
also
changed.
Funding
limitations
have
made
the
support
of
housing,
which
was
previously
proposed
on
the
site
unfeasible
and
while
the
owner
has
been
looking,
they
have
not
been
able
to
secure
an
alternative,
supportive
housing
partner
for
the
project
to
date.
AA
So,
in
order
to
keep
the
project
moving
and
maintain
28,
affordable
housing
units
without
the
supportive
housing
partner
and
the
applicant
or
the
property
owner
has
indicated
that
an
additional
two
stories
have
been
requested
to
be
added
to
the
proposal
and
the
zoning
permissions
in
order
to
accommodate
a
sufficient
number
of
units
on
the
site
to
continue
to
support
this
development
and
just
for
clarity,
because
we
did
have
a
comment
or
a
question
from
the
counselor
today.
So
I
thought
I
would
provide
for
the
benefit
of
the
rest
of
the
committee.
AA
The
affordable
housing
arrangement
for
this
property
does
not
include
rent
supplementation,
so
the
city
is
not
paying
that
20
of
the
rent,
where
the
the
landlord
would
be
obtaining
100
of
the
rent.
This
means
that
the
landlord
is
essentially
foregoing
that
20
of
the
rent
for
the
affordable
housing
units
each
month
and
that's
in
exchange
for
the
capital
funding
assistance
that
will
be
provided
during
the
construction
phase
of
the
process
so
through
the
submission
materials,
including
a
review
of
the
official
plan's
land,
use
compatibility
criteria
which
included
the
submission
of
a
shadow
study.
AA
The
applicant
has
confirmed
that
the
10
story-
height
proposal,
continues
to
be
a
compatible
development
that
can
fulfill
the
functional
needs
of
the
additional
units,
as
well
as
the
previous
units
and
planning
staff
have
no
concerns
with
the
additional
two
stories
from
a
lady
spending
perspective
next
slide,
please
so
this
image.
Hopefully
it
is
visible,
but
it
is
also
contained
in
the
comprehensive
report.
AA
From
this
view,
and
that's
just
to
maximize
the
separation
from
the
railway,
the
residential
portion
of
the
building
is
set
back
approximately
12
meters
from
the
front
lot
line
and
approximately
50
meters
from
the
rail
line
and
then
behind
the
building
is
a
partially
below
grade
two-story
parking
structure,
and
this
will
provide
amenity
space
for
residents
on
its
roof.
The
amenity
space
will
provide
gazebos,
which
is
result
of
the
recommendation
of
the
noise
study
and
the
immunity
space
atop.
AA
The
parking
structure
itself
is
set
back
approximately
13
meters,
from
the
rail
line
and
within
this
setback
there
will
be
a
two
and
a
half
meter
high
berm,
along
with
a
five
and
a
half
meter
high
safety
noise,
attenuation
fence.
On
top
of
that,
berm
and
additional
indoor
amenity
options
will
be
provided
to
residents
within
the
building
on
various
stories,
as
well
as
some
additional
upgrade
amenities
space.
Additionally,
some
units
will
have
private
balconies,
so
there's
quite
a
variety
of
amenities
being
available
to
residents
of
the
building.
AA
In
this
proposal,
the
development
will
provide
vehicle
parking
at
a
rate
of
0.89
meters
per
dwelling
unit,
which
is
generally
in
alignment
with
the
recommendations
of
kingston
zoning
bylaw
2022-62
gotta
get
used
to
that
number
and
bicycle
parking,
as
well
as
a
rate
of
one
space
per
unit,
which
is
not
currently
required
by
zoning
by
law.
726
six,
but
is
being
provided
in
anticipation
of
zoning
bylaw,
20,
22
62,
and
to
provo
to
promote
a
modal
shift
here.
AA
Vehicle
parking
would
be
located
on
the
west
side
yard
so
towards
the
bottom
of
this
image,
as
well
as
an
appropriate
parking
structure
and
bicycle
parking
is
located
in
a
secure
location
in
the
basement
of
the
building.
Barrier-Free
parking
is
being
provided
in
accordance
with
the
zoning,
bylaw
and
aoda
requirements.
AA
So,
as
is
consistent
with
other
recommendations,
the
committee
has
been
hearing
since
council
approval
of
the
news
only
bylaw.
The
recommendation
in
front
of
them
today
includes
two
zoning
bylaws,
so
the
first
would
address
sony,
bylaw
7626,
the
second
one
addressed
something
bylaw
2022-62
both
of
those
bylaws
have
been
written
to
permit
the
same
use
and
form
as
described
through
the
comprehensive
report.
They
just
provide
clarity
depending
on
when
cycling
approval
is
issued
for
the
property.
AA
Both
bylaws
would
place
the
property
into
an
appropriate
residential
zone
category
and
apply
site-specific
provisions
related
to
height
density
yards
balconies,
mechanical
penthouse
parking
and
loading.
The
comprehensive
report
does
describe
the
provisions
in
detail,
as
well
as
the
rationale
for
support
in
each
of
them
from
a
lady's
planning
perspective.
So
I
won't
spend
a
whole
bunch
of
time
going
over.
That
today,
but
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
AA
Questions
on
the
specifics
of
those
and
the
provisions
would
also
facilitate
the
site
layout
and
form
proposed
in
a
manner
that
is
supported
by
the
technical
study
submitted
and
reviewed
with
the
application.
Two
things
of
note.
So
the
first
is
that
zoning
bylaw
would
place
the
property
into
a
class
four
area
as
decide
defined
by
the
ontario
ministry
of
the
environment.
Noise
guide.
AA
So
for
clarity,
the
class
four
recommendation
is
not
actually
related
to
the
proximity
to
the
rail
line,
but
rather
related
to
the
invested
distribution
center
to
the
north
of
the
rail
line.
The
noise
study
completed
for
the
application
concluded
that
the
industrial
use
will
generate
impulse
sound
levels
exceeding
provincial
criteria
by
nine
decibels
during
the
night
time
period
at
the
north
facade
of
the
building.
AA
So
the
study
notes
that
the
daytime
levels
meet
the
daytime
noise
criteria
and
do
not
require
reclassification,
but
the
night
time
levels
that
nine
decibels
is
above
the
threshold.
So
the
study
did
look
at
a
number
of
potential
mitigative
measures
to
achieve
a
class
1
designation,
but
ultimately
concluded
that
none
of
those
were
desirable
and
thus
recommends
applying
a
class
4
to
the
site
to
facilitate
the
development.
AA
Secondly,
the
zoning
bylaws
would
also
introduce
a
holding
symbol
on
the
site,
which
would
be
conditional
on
a
final
confirmation
from
cn
that
their
required
agreement
related
to
the
development
has
been
finalized.
Their
satisfaction,
so
cn
staff
have
been
circulated
on
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
application
through
multiple
iterations
and
have
now
indicated
support
of
the
use
and
the
site
design
subject
to
securement
of
an
agreement
with
with
the
property
owner
related
to
some
development
conditions,
which
were
agreed
upon
through
the
technical
review.
AA
The
owner,
just
for
the
committee's
benefit,
has
indicated
that
they
are
now
in
possession
of
this
draft
agreement
from
cn
and
are
working
with
their
legal
counsel.
To
finalize
and
sign
that
agreement,
so
as
such,
the
holding
condition
is
really
a
paper
exercise
at
this
stage,
just
to
ensure
that
the
city
can
proceed
with
this
approval,
while
still
making
sure
we're
crossing
all
of
our
t's
and
dotting
our
eyes
prior
to
being
able
to
issue
any
state
plan
approval
for
the
property.
So,
generally
speaking,
cn
is
satisfied
with
this
application.
AA
AA
However,
members
of
committee
did
put
forward
a
few
questions
at
the
public
meeting
for
staff
and
the
applicants,
so
I'll
just
try
and
provide
a
brief
summary
of
those
and
relevant
information
for
the
committee's
benefit,
and
hopefully
that
will
help
to
answer
some
of
your
questions
ahead
of
having
to
ask
them.
But
if
not
we're
happy
to
elaborate
on
any
of
those
and
more
folsom.
Information
is
also
contained
in
the
comprehensive
report.
AA
So
the
committee
had
asked
some
questions
about
the
affordable
housing
model
for
the
property
and
the
status
of
any
supportive
housing
partnership.
So
through
this
presentation,
I've
touched
on
the
changes
related
to
affordable
housing
as
they
relate
to
not
being
able
to
secure
a
housing
partner.
Given
funding
constraints,
the
owner
has
indicated
that
they
continue
to
seek
a
supportive,
supportive
housing
partner,
and
we
have
built
permissions
for
this
if
an
office
is
needed
for
that
in
the
future
into
the
recommended
zoning
bylaws.
AA
AA
Committee
members
also
raise
questions
regarding
the
train
whistle
so
just
to
kind
of
try
and
break
down
the
noise
study.
It
does
indicate
that
the
whistle
noise
has
a
small
influence
on
daytime
sound
levels.
However,
with
the
proposed
mitigation
measures
being
that
sound
attenuation
fence
and
the
gazebos,
as
well
as
ac
units
for
the
unit
or
ac
for
the
units,
those
are
all
sufficient
to
me
mecp
and
cn
guidelines.
So
there
are
no
concerns
with
that
whistle
during
the
day.
AA
The
no.
The
study
does
note
that
whistle
noise
is
not
used
to
evaluate
the
outdoor
amenity
area
sound
and
that's
in
accordance
with
mecp
guidelines,
and
it
also
notes
that
anti-whistling
bylaws
are,
in
effect
from
8
p.m,
to
6
a.m,
meaning
that
the
whistling
does
not
affect
the
nighttime
sound
levels
except
sorry,
I
should
say,
except
for
between
the
hours
of
6
a.m
and
7
a.m,
which
is
still
considered
nighttime.
AA
In
accordance
with
the
tree
by
law,
forestry
staff
has
indicated
that
54
replacement
tree
plantings
will
be
required
on
the
site.
The
current
landscape
plan,
which
is
provided
as
a
conceptual
drawing
for
the
purposes
of
this
zoning
review,
currently
shows
34
plantings,
including
the
three
catalpa
trees
that
were
requested
by
councillor
sanik
at
the
public
meeting.
AA
So,
through
the
submitted
technical
reports,
the
application
has
demonstrated
that
the
proposed
development
will
be
compatible
with
surrounding
land
uses
and
will
provide
a
safe
and
attractive
home
for
future
residents.
The
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
provincial
policy
statement
and
complies
with
the
official
plan,
and,
as
such
we
are
recommending
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
approval.
AA
If
the
sony
bill
amendment
is
approved,
the
next
steps
will
be
an
application
for
lifting
of
the
holding
symbol
once
you
receive
that
formal
sign
off
from
cn,
as
well
as
an
application
for
cycling
control
approval
which
will
undergo
additional
technical
review
for
detailed
design
next
slide.
Please
so.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
Tonight
and
staff
are
available
to
assist.
We
do
have
mr
henderson
from
our
housing
department
on
the
line,
as
well
as
the
applicant's
agent,
mr
tao,
to
answer
any
questions
from
the
committee
or
members
of
the
public.
We
have
any.
Q
Q
I
really
like
that
for
the
berm
and
then
the
fence,
so
I
think
we
heard
it's
like
five
and
a
half
was
it
meters
and
then
two
and
a
half
meters,
and
then,
if
you
convert
that
to
how
many
stories
is,
is
that
like
is
that
protection
for
the
first
two
stories,
or
is
that
protection
for
the
first
three
stories?
Do
we
know
the
berm
and
then
the
fence
sort
of
what
that
is
equivalent
to
and
number
of
stories
of,
the
building.
AA
Thank
you
and
through
you
I
would
venture
to
say
that
that
would
be
the
equivalent
of
approximately
the
first
two
stories,
because
the
top
of
the
fence
is
roughly
the
same
height
as
the
top
of
the
parking
garage,
the
top
of
the
fence
on
the
top
of
the
parking
garage.
So
it
would
be
about
roughly
the
first
two
stories
that
that
would
be
providing
very
comfortable.
Q
AA
Q
Thank
you
and
just
my
last
question
is
about
the
trees,
and
so
it
looks
like
from
miss
grant's
that
definitely
the
city
will
make
sure
that
the
there's
34
trees
right
now
on
the
landscape
plan,
but
54
are
needed,
so
the
city
will
ensure
that
those
extra
trees
are
found.
Those
20
extra
trees
are
found.
AA
Q
And
from
the
landscaping
plan
that
I
saw
anyway
loaded
on
dash,
I
zoomed
in
for
the
catalpas,
it
only
showed
two
so
from
what
I
see
from
my
zooming
in
maybe
there's
a
more
current
landscaping
plan.
One
of
those
extra
20
trees
will
have
to
be
another
catalpa,
because
those
two
two
trees
like
one
is
about
to
be
removed.
The
other
one
was
removed
last
year.
Q
If
a
watering
system
can
be
made
because
you
can
see,
as
you
drive
around
town
like
some
of
the
new
newly
planted
trees
really
taking
a
hit,
but
where
we
did
do
an
underground
watering
system
at
the
corner
of
on
the
new
development
at
days,
road
and
bathrobe,
the
north
northwest
corner
those
trees
are
doing
fantastic
because
we
did
put
in
a
watering
system
when
they
made
popeye's
chicken
and
the
other
places
in
there
and
those
trees
are
looking
really
good.
Compare
that
to
memorial
center,
for
example.
Right.
Q
Q
I
think
all
planning
applications
as
part
of
the
planning
act
when
trees
are
registered
on
site
plan,
it's
for
the
entire
in
perpetuity
of
of
the
site
plan
right,
and
so,
if
one
of
the
trees
like
the
54
trees
dies,
the
city
will
be
able
to
make
the
the
landowner
replace
the
tree
or
else
replace
it
for
them
and
put
the
tree
onto
their
next
property
tax
bill.
I
just
want
confirmation
of
that.
V
Sorry
miss
grant.
It
is
a
little
difficult
because
I'm
looking
at
you
in
the
screen
and
looking
counselor
kylie
in
the
eyes-
and
I
feel
like
I-
can
see
everybody
in
the
room,
but
I
understand
that
the
virtual
setting
is
a
little
challenging
right
now,
but
we're
getting
used
to
it
all
right
so
through
you'd
share
to
counselor
osanic.
You
are
correct.
So
what
the
trees
that
are
noted
on
a
site,
plane
control
agreement
are
to
be
maintained
in
perpetuity.
V
The
city
takes
securities
associated
with
the
landscaping
for
site
plans,
which
the
developer
of
the
site
can
then
seek
to
have
released
at
a
future
date,
usually
it's
after
a
one-year
period
that
they
can
start
to
seek
reductions
if
they
don't
seek
reductions
after
that
one
year
period.
We
continue
to
hold
that
money
and
can
use
it
to
correct
site
plan
deficiencies.
V
However,
after
maintenance
securities
are
released,
the
city
does
have
the
ability
to
approach
a
landowner
for
deficiencies
in
the
site
plan,
especially
related
to
landscaping
and
have
them
remedy
it,
or
we
can
remedy
it
for
them
and
place
it
on
the
tax
bill.
This
is
all
conditions
within
the
site
plan
control
agreement.
G
G
H
M
93
hillcrest
avenue
kings
kingston.
I
I
just
wondered:
if
there's
a
time
frame
for
the
affordable
units
being
affordable,
is
there
a
limit
as
to
how
long
that
will
go
on
or
is
it
is
it
in
the
past?
Sometimes
it's
15.
It
should
be
25
30
years,
but
sometimes
it's
less
and
I
wonder
if
that's
designated
in
the
in
the
proposal.
AB
C
Thank
you
very
much
all
right,
so
we'll
go
back
to
committee
and
I'm
going
to
propose.
We
put
it
on
the
floor.
Seeing
no
objection.
Counselor
hill
moves
to
put
it
on
the
floor,
councilor
sanic.
Second,
all
right.
So
the
floor
is
open
for
discussion
and
debate
I'll
give
the
chair
to
the
vice
chair
for
a
moment.
C
And
quickly
echo
the
comments
of
my
colleagues,
I
think
not
to
be
hyperbolic,
but
I
think
my
first
official
meeting
after
being
elected
was
with
mr
martin
to
discuss
the
development
in
my
district
and
it's
all
come
together
nicely
for
all
the
reasons
said,
and
I'm
quite
excited
to
see
it
and
that
type
of
density
in
my
district
is
common.
So
if
we
could
continue
that
with
other
projects,
especially
if
it
includes
affordable
housing,
all
the
better
so
happy
to
support
it.
C
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
all
right
call
the
question
all
in
favor
and
that
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
have
no
motions.
Are
there
any
notices
of
motion
seeing
none?
No
other
business
note
a
few
pieces
of
correspondence
and
that
our
next
meeting
is
on
october
6th,
again
hybrid,
so
going
forward,
always
hybrid
committee
members
you're
welcome
to
join
us
in
these
hallowed
halls
right,
it's
quite
nice
here
or
not
all
right,
so
motion
to
adjourn
counselor,
neal
and
counselor
sonic.
All
those
in
favor,
alrighty
folks
take
care
have
a
good
weekend.