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Rural Advisory Committee from September 22, 2021. For the full meeting agenda, visit https://bit.ly/3kyKdJ2.
A
Okay,
I
see
allison
has
connected
now,
so
I'll
just
quickly
go
over
our
introduction.
The
meeting
is
being
live,
streamed
on
youtube
and
recorded.
We
have
regrets
this
evening
from
councillor
baum
and
from
the
chair
jose
conway
in
attendance
for
city
staff.
Tonight
are
myself
eric
o'shea
the
committee
clerk.
We
have
craig
desjardins,
the
director
of
the
office
of
strategy,
innovation
and
partnerships.
I
hope
I
got
that
correct.
A
B
A
B
B
A
B
B
B
Thank
you
very
much
that
passes
yeah
and
we
move
on
to
disclosure
of
pecuniary
interest
and
seeing
none.
So
we
move
over
to
delegations
and
we
have
this
evening.
Donna
gillespie
of
ceo
of
kingston
economic
development
corporation
will
present
to
speak
to
the
committee
with
respect
to
the
food
adventure
program,
hello,
donna.
D
D
A
A
Yeah
we,
you
were
just
cutting
in
and
out
so
I
turned
your
video
off
so
we'll
go,
try
and
go
without
the
video
and
then
if
we
have
further
connectivity
problems,
maybe
we'll
just
ask
you
to
call
in,
but
we'll
we'll
take
it
from
here.
So
you
may.
We
got
up
to
mentioning
that.
You
had
done
free
programs
as
part
of
q1
as
part
of
the
food
venture
program,
and
then
we
kind
of
lost
you
after
that.
D
D
D
It
also
ties
closely
with
tourism,
kingston's,
integrated
destination
strategy,
so
very
well
suited
for
this
community
and
the
three
programs
we
launched
were
a
12-week
food
venture
boot
camp
which
had
21
participants
and
it
looked
at
everything
from
initial
concept
and
idea
for
starting
a
food
enterprise
through
the
value
proposition
and
business
planning,
packaging,
health
and
safety
requirements
to
sales
and
food
service.
This
culminated
in
a
pitch
competition
where
participants
could
buy
for
up
to
five
thousand
dollars
in
startup
funding,
which
was
provided
by
the
province.
D
So
we're
quite
pleased
with
those
programs
and
in
terms
of
next
steps,
we
are
looking
at
hosting
half
day
sessions
for
an
introduction
to
starting
a
food
business.
And
again
this
can
be
someone
looking
at
being
a
food
preneur
entering
indicating
catering
or
a
restaurant
food
setting,
but
also
for
those
looking
at
smaller
scale
manufacturing
of
food
product,
and
I
think,
there's
been
a
strong
trend
for
keeping
food
supply
close
and
investing
and
supporting
local
food
producer.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
donna
for
that
presentation
that
makes
us
hungry.
That's
a
great
a
great
thing.
I
just
google
as
you're
talking
pizza
in
a
box.
I'm
not
sure
I
had
not
heard
of
that,
and
it's
definitely
something
we're
going
to
try
very
soon
here.
So
that's
great.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
committee.
B
B
D
Correct
so
we
have
emerging
emerging
businesses
such
as
pizza
in
a
box
or
taco,
the
town,
real
food
micro
farm,
but
they've
also
been
some
more
established,
businesses
that
took
part
such
as
meal
gelato,
the
holiday
country
manor
in
e
maker's,
coffee
on
wolf,
island
grocery
basket.
So
there's
there's
an
interest
from
even
those
who
are
established.
B
Yeah,
certainly
as
I
look
at
it
and
my
view
as
a
counselor
too,
and
I
I
really
would
love
to
stimulate
some
conversation
from
from
the
committee
on
this,
I
am
it
just
resonates
as
a
really
great
great
thing
to
be
doing
and
a
food
venture
it
it
just
harmonizes
very
well
with
rural
life.
You
know
our
our
our
culture
and
eating,
and
you
know
just
it
and
the
contribution
we
can
make
from
the
rural
area,
and
we
can
welcome
this.
B
You
know
so
I
I
just
I'm
so
I'm
really
pleased
by
it
and
and
I'm
been
so
busy
with
so
many
other
things
that
I
think
I'm
only
just
starting
to
come,
align
with
it
and
so
I'd
love
to
hear
what
other
other
there
on
the
panel
any
thoughts
and
accolades
or
concerns
at
all.
Where
are
we
at
anyone
at
all?
D
So
there
is
a
firm
through
you,
mr
chair.
There
is
a
firm
that
specializes
in
food
venture
programs,
so
these
are
consultants
that
have
been
working
across
ontario
through
the
network
of
ontario
small
business,
centers
of
which
the
economic
development
office
does
house
one,
and
it
was
great
bringing
in
these
consultants
because
they
have
a
wide
range
of
connections
within
the
food
industry
and
helping
new
entrepreneurs
start
up
or
scale.
D
C
B
D
D
Food
trade
show
delegations
where
they've
been
so
successful,
they've
been
able
to
enter
into
major
grocery
chains
like
metro
or
farm
boy
that
really
stand
out
in
terms
of
food
and
food
science
and
supporting
me
the
foodpreneur,
would
be
ottawa
valley
has
a
number
of
great
examples.
Merrickville's
been
very
successful,
with
a
few
guelph
being
in
a
farming
area,
oxford
county
against
southern
ontario.
You
see
quite
a
food
a
few
because
of
the
farming
and
the
agricultural
assets
that
are
in
the
area.
B
F
Yes,
thank
you.
So
a
couple,
a
couple
of
questions
with
respect
to,
I
guess
accessing
capital,
because
that's
a
big
thing:
somebody's
starting
a
business
neighboring
us
the
commun
central
frontnet
community,
futures
development
corporation
they've,
been
able
to
support
a
lot
of
businesses
in
that
geographical
jurisdiction.
Small
farms
getting
started.
F
You
know
with
with
cash
with
programming,
is
that
what
this
particular
program
is
going
to
do
for
the
farmers
in
rural
kingston,
which
is
a
completely
different
geographical
designation,
is?
Is
it
kind
of
similar
just
just
because
in
supplement
to
that,
I
kind
of
want
to
know
how
do
people
find
out
about
this?
Who
is
the
point
person
with
ketco?
How
do
you
get
more
information
to
access
this?
If
this
is
indeed
an
ongoing
program
that
needs
to
be
supported
thanks.
D
Bbc
the
banks,
but
I
think
that's
a
whole
separate
topic
to
be
explored,
is
ensuring
that
rural
kingston
can
qualify
for
cftc
funding
for
a
point
person
within
our
office.
Norman
mason
damona
is
our
manager
of
startups
in
small
business.
If
you're
on
our
website
kingstonheckdev.com,
there
are
links
in
an
online
form
and
really
we'd
encourage
any
of
your
rural
constituents
to
reach
out
to
anyone
on
the
team,
and
we
are
happy
to
walk
them
through
the
process.
B
D
Through
you,
I
have
not
had
an
update
in
terms
of
the
boundary
discussion
related
to
community
future
development
operations
and
designating
rural
kingston
within
those.
So
mr
desjardins
might
have
more
up-to-date
information
on
those
discussions,
but
in
terms
of
access
to
capital,
any
individual
in
kingston
or
the
surrounding
areas
can
work
with
our
small
business
advisors
to
look
at
how
to
access
capital
through
traditional
means
being
bdc.
B
F
No,
I
think
I
think
that
was
it
it
just
it's
it's
clarified
and
thank
you
very
much
for
answering
the
questions
through
the
chair,
donna,
it's
it's
clear
and
it's
unfortunate
and
I'm
not
sure
when
this
is
going
to
get
changed,
but
it'll
be
interesting
as
to
how
this
does
a
segue
into
mr
desjardins
presentation.
If
it's
so
important,
then
let's
just
see
how
important
it
really
is.
Thank
you.
B
A
G
Yes,
thank
you
and
derek.
I
might
have
a
question
on
a
point
of
procedure
for
you
in
a
couple
of
minutes,
so
to
echo
allison's
comments,
I
find
it
as
a
new
farmer
very
frustrating
to
listen
to
talk
of
seeking
financial
resources
through
traditional
lending
centers,
because
they
don't
exist
to
get
money.
As
a
new
farmer
to
get
into
food
production,
you
are
running
up
against
a
brick
wall.
The
entire
way
there
needs
to
be
something
unconventional
non-traditional,
which
is
where
the
community
futures
development
corporations
or
from
what
I'm
gathering
here.
G
It's
now
called
the
front
neck
business
development
office
or
whatever
it
is
something
that
picks
people
up
when
the
banks
say,
yeah
take
a
hike.
So
I
get
concerned
when
we
have
strategies
and
derek.
Please
reflect
this
in
the
minutes.
I
get
concerned
when
we
have
strategies
to
talk
about
hiring
new
positions
and
establishing
new
offices,
because
I
see
that
as
consumption
of
capital,
often
public
funds
that
could
be
very
easily
used
in
the
thousands
of
dollars
that
it
accumulates
as
as
some
sort
of
grant
directly
from
the
city
of
kingston.
G
G
Now
I
have
a
question
about
a
motion-
derek.
Maybe
you
can
help
me
with
this,
because
I
suspect
we'll
actually
have
to
defer
to
the
next
rural
advisory
committee
meeting.
So
I
move
that
the
and
other
people
please
feel
free
to
weigh
in
with
the
wording.
I
move
that
the
rural
advisory
committee
recommends
to
city
of
kingston
council
that
the
province
of
ontario
and
the
federal
government
of
canada
redraw
the
cftc
boundaries
to
incorporate
the
oral
zone
of
kingston.
G
G
A
So,
technically
you
cannot
pass
motions
during
the
delegation
portion.
I
think
probably
the
best
way,
john,
if
you
do
want
to
do
something
like
this,
would
be
to
get
it
sort
of
spelt
out
directly,
maybe
some
consultation
with
staff
on
how
to
word
it,
because
wording
is
really
important
on
these
things
and
can
see
it
go
on
a
future
agenda.
B
B
So
as
far
as
this,
as
this
delegation
goes,
are
there
any
more
questions
for
donna,
okay,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
from
donna,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
for
the
work
that
you're
doing,
and
hopefully
this
will
spur
on
more
conversation
and
discussion
and
opportunities
for
the
rural
area.
Thank
you.
B
H
H
I'll
just
make
a
few
comments
just
about
the
the
ctc
boundary
issue,
and
one
of
the
things
you
probably
don't
know
is
that
before
joining
the
city
of
kingston
five
years
ago
I
was
an
executive
director
of
a
cfdc
in
prince
edward
and
lennox
addington.
So
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
critical
role
of
the
cftcs
and
providing
access
to
capital
to
those
that
the
banks
turn
down.
Banks
can
be
brutal
and
I
I
would
share,
and
perhaps,
as
a
next
step
to
the
next
meeting
we
have
been
working.
H
There
is
a
report
to
appeal
to
the
federal
government
to
extend
the
boundary
of
fraud
next
cftc
into
rural
kingston.
I
could
certainly
prepare
some
slides
highlights
of
that
report.
I
think
it's
a
very
compelling
like
it's.
It's
absolutely
ridiculous
that
one
side
of
you
know
highway
38
is
for
a
business
on
that
side
of
the
road.
You
can
get
a
grant
a
grant
loan
and
on
the
other
side,
that's
kingston,
you
can't
it
doesn't
doesn't
make
any
sense.
H
Part
of
the
challenge,
though,
is
that
you
know
we're
we're
not
the
only
sort
of
semi-urban-
or
I
guess
community
that
has
rural
but
also
urban,
and
I
think
part
of
the
the
issue
for
the
federal
government
is
that
if
they
do
it
for
us,
they
have
to
do
it
for
several
other
areas.
But
but
that
really
is,
I
don't
think,
a
reasonable
justification.
H
The
reality
is
about
service,
equal
and
fair
access
to
service
across
our
country,
and
I
I
think
we
can,
as
I
said,
present
some
some
details
and
certainly
would
welcome
the
the
motion
that
that
john
has
sort
of
roughed
out
and
happy
to
work
with
him
on
that
that
language.
You
know
it's
interesting.
H
So
maybe,
mr
chairman,
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
ask
staff
to
bring
up
the
slides
and
I'll
just
you
know,
quickly,
walk
through
some
some
content
and
again
have
an
opportunity
for
question
and
answer
the
the
slides
I've
put
together.
Just
regarding
the
the
new
rural
economic
development
strategy.
The
committee
will
remember
in
the
fall
of
last
year.
I
think
it
was
late
november
we
came,
or
maybe
it
was
the
first
second,
the
second
of
december.
H
We
came
to
the
committee
and
provided
sort
of
an
opportunity
for
input
on
sort
of
the
last
version
of
of
the
strategy.
Obviously,
with
with
covet
it's
been,
it's
been
a
challenging
time
and
we
we
are
advancing.
Council,
did
accept
and
approve
the
kingston
rural
economic
development
strategy,
and
fortunately
they
have
provided
resources
to
to
actually
implement
a
number
of
those
recommendations.
H
I
appreciate
john's
comment
about
making
sure
we
get
money
to
to
those
in
need.
You
know
we
do
have
some
limitations
of
our
bonusing
businesses
directly
with
grants,
but
we
can
certainly
explore
how
we
can
get
more
money
into
the
hands
of
those
who
need
it.
So
next
slide
get
right
into
right
into
the
presentation.
So,
as
I've
stated
here,
you
know
the
strategy
has
been
approved.
H
It
is
a
intricate
and
important
component
of
the
new
integrated
economic
development
strategy
and
donna
referenced
that
in
her
presentation,
it
is,
you
know,
a
council's
strategic
priority
and
something
that
councilors
off
and
councillor
vaughn
always
are
very
vocal
out
of
counsel
about
the
priority
that
you
know.
Rural
kingston
needs
to
be
strong
and
resilient
and
it
has
to
be
part
of
the
city
of
kingston's
economic,
health.
H
Just
a
again,
I
think,
you've
seen
this
before
just
a
couple
of
highlights
in
terms
of
the
demographics
of
royal
kingston.
You
live
in
rural
regions,
so
you
know,
but
again,
these
are
some.
I
think
surprising.
To
to
some.
You
know.
The
population
in
rural
kingston
is
is
rising
sharply,
you're,
seeing
a
lot
of
immigration.
The
average
age
is
quite
a
bit
older
than
urban
kingston.
Rural
kingston
has
an
overall
higher
income
level
by
a
fair
amount
than
urban
kingston.
H
I
got
a
bit
of
a
typo
on
the
next
one
on
housing,
the
value
of
the
dwellings
is
higher
in
rural
kingston
higher
than
it's
quite
a
bit
higher
than
the
average
in
urban
kingston,
which
again
is
is
very
interesting.
Also
of
interest
is
that
the
educational
levels
in
rural
kingston
are
are
quite
a
bit
higher
on
average
than
in
urban
kingston,
which
may
or
may
not
be
surprising.
H
H
You
know
a
little
bit
about
the
strategy
again,
you
know
as
we
as
we
created
the
strategy
as
we
received
input
both
in
surveys
and
interviews.
Many
with
you
as
well.
The
purpose
was
really
to
create
an
intentional
development
across
rural
kingston
that
will
leverage
assets,
industries,
sectors
and
opportunities.
H
H
The
strategy
is
consisting
of
sort
of
two
major
components:
one
is
sort
of
development
opportunities.
The
second
one
are
what
we
call
enablers
and
the
development
opportunities
really
divided
into
agriculture
opportunities,
tourism,
hamlet,
led
development
and
then
rural
cluster
development
on
the
enabler
side,
you've
got
project,
selection,
approval
processes,
review
of
funding
envelopes
again
critical
and
then
identifying
alternative
service
options
and
included
within.
That
would
be
something
like
broadband,
which
is
again
has
been
and
continues
to
be
one
of
the
number
one
issues
that
we
hear
continually.
H
H
So
the
the
metrics
for
success-
this
is
really
early
suggestions
and
and
again
you
will
help
help
us
measure
the
success
of
the
work
that
we
do,
but
certainly
some
suggestions
include
the
number
of
new
startup
businesses.
You
know
offers
for
new
business
expansion,
potential
attraction
of
investment
both
in
dollars
in
private
sector
investment,
but
also
potentially
funds.
H
We
leverage
and
attract
in
grant
dollars
expanding
opportunities
for
research
and
development,
innovation
in
different
aspects
of
the
sectors,
and
that
could
be
in
construction
sector.
It
could
be
in
agriculture,
support
of
newcomers
and
immigrant
entrepreneurs,
understanding
how
newcomers
to
our
community
might
be
connected
into
opportunities
for
employment.
H
H
One
of
the
key
messages
I
I
will
try
and
reiterate
through
my
presentation-
is
that
this
is
your
plan,
our
plan
and
it
needs
continual
participation
from
people
in
rural
kingston.
I'm
going
to
be
suggesting
some
structures
and
some
working
groups
and
we
need
more
people
involved,
because
we
need
their
support
and
engagement
to
ensure
success
of
the
plan
and
finally
leveraging
and
building
infrastructure
and
assets,
and
then
again
that
part
of
that
is
broadband
100.
But
it
could
be
other
other
infrastructure
and
assets
as.
H
So
recommended
recommendations
and
rationale
next
slide.
Maybe
I
won't
go
into
such
huge
detail,
because
I'll
I'll
probably
drag
on
a
little
longer
than
I
should.
But
again
what
we've
done
is.
We've
got
15
recommendations
within
the
strategy
and
the
rationale
for
those
based
on
the
data
we
collected
input
and
the
focus
groups
again
lots
of
opportunity,
as
it
relates
to
agriculture.
H
You
know
that
your
farmers,
I
don't
need
me,
telling
you
that,
but
again,
how
do
we
provide
additional
access
to
innovation?
Access
to
capital
pools,
encourage
local
food
consumption.
You
know,
donna's
collaboration
and
programs
is
an
exact
example
of
what
we
would
be
looking
to
do
and
how
do
we
attract
new
new
farmers?
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
the
farming
community
has
done
well
has
looked
at
issues
like
succession,
and
you
know
it's
interesting.
You
know
they've
done
so
well
with
some
of
the
programs.
H
You
know
the
with
succession
both
from
an
accounting
but
also
a
legal
perspective.
It's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
we
may
look
at.
I
know
the
trade
sector
is
another
sector,
that's
dealing
with
an
aging
demographic
and
really
could
you
probably
use
some
of
that
succession
planning
support,
but
again,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
augment
that
and
support
that
next
slide
tourism
and
again
the
opportunities
for
agritourism,
the
opportunities
to
animate
tourism
opportunities?
H
We've
had
initial
discussions
with
our
partners
at
tourism
kingston,
who
are
just
chomping
at
the
bit
to
to
get
involved.
They
see
incredible
opportunities,
they're
they're,
bringing
people
to
kingston
and
they're
looking
to
find
things
for
them
to
to
to
do
and
to
be,
you
know,
exposed
to
obviously
king's
pen.
These
kind
of
tourist
attractions
are
wonderful,
but
rural
kingston
is
also
wonderful,
and
how
do
we
create
trails
and
opportunities
for
for
people
to
enjoy
the
what
we
have
in.
H
Rural
clusters,
again
looking
at
encouraging
industry,
focused
rural
clusters.
You
know
one
of
the
ones
that
we
are
interested
in
is
understanding
how
we
can
all
better
augment
rural
health
care,
and
is
that
a
rural
health
care
center
and
service?
You
know
access
to
family,
physicians,
family
physicians
is
a
huge
challenge
throughout
ontario.
It's
a
problem
really
throughout
north
america
and
it's
not
gonna
get
better
with
the
demographics
of
doctors,
they're,
aging
they're
eating
rapidly
and
there's
more
and
more
retirements.
H
H
H
What's
interesting
is
they're,
they
seem
to
be
going
to
a
sort
of
territory,
type
of
approach
where
there's
almost
like
a
reverse
auction
type
of
a
process
where
we're
bidders
and
those
are
likely.
Some
of
the
big
players
in
the
telecom
world
would
would
who
would
provide
the
best
service
for
the
lowest
price.
So
we're
very,
very
keen
to
understand
how
this
how
this
will
work.
You
know
I
think
kingston
is
well
positioned
because
kingston
includes
the
urban
part
as
well
as
the
rural.
H
I
believe
there
were
six
submissions,
two
of
which
are
they're
in
discussions
with
the
consortiums
and
proceeding
to
sort
of
understand
how
that
will
fit
with
this
new
funding
program
being
delivered
by
the
province.
So
certainly
lots
of
progress
and
a
major
focus
of
my
office
and
julius
kingston's
time.
H
Hamlet,
the
development-
this
will
likely
be
a
a
priority
for
sort
of
the
mid
mid-range
to
24
months,
but
really
understanding
and
developing
hamlet-based
development
opportunities.
Encouraging
concentrated
residential
development
we'll
be
working
heavily
with
the
planning
departments
of
the
city
as
we
as
we
work
on
this
particular
priority.
H
H
So
we
we
have
posted
and
it
did
close
yesterday
so
we'll
be
interviewing
and
hiring
within
the
next
six
weeks,
a
new
manager
of
early
community
development
and
really
excited
to
have
someone
who
will
be
solely
responsible
and
be
working
100
to
to
drive
the
rural
file
forward,
we're
sourcing
and
applying
for
grant
funding
that
aligns
with
the
strategy
we're
working
right
now
on
a
grant
application
with
a
number
of
partners,
including
maybe
a
surprising
one
corrections
canada
to
look
at.
How
do
we?
H
How
do
we
help
with
farm
skills
and
we're
looking
at
a
partnership
with
corrections,
canada,
with
their
their
property
they're
interested
from
from
some
of
their
residents,
are,
are
looking
to
upskill
and
sort
of
a
collaboration
with
st
lawrence
college
and
others,
but
again,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
meet
the
needs
of
of
the
community,
develop
strategy,
theme,
working
groups
and
public
participation?
H
Regular
input
has
really
been
the
key
to
the
success
of
that
entire
project.
Staff's
responsibility
is
to
is
to
provide
support
both
logistics
in
terms
of
meetings
to
source
funding
for
the
projects
that
the
volunteers
helped
develop
and
then
find
organizations
to
actually
implement
and
execute.
The
goal
of
the
of
our
office
is
not
to
create
an
empire.
It's
very
much
to
find
other
organizations
with
capacity
to
deliver
what
what
is
created
by
by
these
theme
working
groups
and
and
again
we
can.
H
We
can
certainly
chat
about
what
those
themed
working
groups
might
be.
I
think
broadband
would
be
one
I
would.
I
would
love
to
have
very
much
sooner
than
later,
but
certainly
agritourism
or
a
farming
working
group
would
be
great
to
have
and
really
understand
and
have
their
input
on
what
programs
we
develop
and
have
staff
start
to
work
on
that
partnership
and
collaborations.
H
Certainly
it's
my
office
works
very
closely
with
don
and
her
team
on
a
regular
basis
and
certainly
we're
we're
meeting
with
neighboring
municipalities
on
a
regular
basis
on
a
number
of
of
topics,
but
again
there's
so
much
opportunity
for
collaboration.
You
know:
there's
work
underway
right
now,
exploring
some
solutions
to
rural
transit
in
partnership
with
some
neighboring
municipalities
and
some
funding
opportunities
that
we
found
that
might
be
able
to
to
allow
us
to
look
at
a
pilot.
H
So
again,
it's
so
critical
that
that
we
have
our
our
neighboring
municipalities
involved
and
as
co-applicants
in
many
of
these,
these
funding
programs
we've
been
meeting.
As
I
said
earlier,
the
tourism
kingston
and
certain
kingston
economic
development
to
make
sure
everything
is
aligned
and
amplified.
H
The
idea
here
is
not
to
duplicate
what
others
are
doing
it's
to
complement
and
to
build
on,
and
we've
had
success
with
that
in
many
ways
already,
including
a
lot
of
the
work
we're
doing
around
health
innovation
and
again,
we
work
well,
we
work
closely
together
and
many
hands
make
light
work.
And,
lastly,
again
a
community
outreach
and
engagement.
H
It's
it's
all
about
beginning
the
market,
validation
of
the
strategy.
You
know:
are
there
pieces
to
the
strategy
that
maybe
aren't
relevant
anymore
or
maybe
there's
new
issues?
A
certain
covid
and
the
pandemic
have
altered
many
of
our
lives,
many
of
our
strategies
and
how
do
we
adapt
and
how
are
we.
H
In
into
the
longer
term-
and
again
maybe
I
won't
go
into
into
too
much
detail,
but
again
this
addresses
issues
which
relates
to
working
with
the
planning
department
to
develop
criteria
and
scorecards
to
assist
in
shortlisting
development
opportunities
in
rural
kingston.
How
do
we
benchmark
our
performance?
Again?
I'm
a
numbers
person.
I
love
measuring
things.
I
love
reporting
on
gathering
data.
H
How
do
we
measure
our
success
because
again
part
of
our
responsibilities,
report
back
to
council
on
the
progress
of
our
work
and
then
certainly
again
in
partnership
with
the
city
planning
department?
How
do
we
develop
land
use
strategies
to
support
growth
in
sectors
that
are
our
priority
to
rural
kingston,
agriculture
and
tourism
and
others?
H
And
I
think
that's
that's
it.
I've
talked
for
too
long
already.
I
did,
I
think,
there's
some
other
content
in
my
presentation
or
by
report,
but
I
tried
try
not
to
duplicate
too
much.
I
probably
still
did
but
happy
now
to
certainly
open
it
up
to
questions
and
and
provide
any
other
information
that
you're
interested
in.
B
Sorry
about
that,
thank
you
very
much,
craig.
That
was
excellent,
there's
so
much
there
that
we
could
probably
go
for
a
while.
I
I
have
two
pages
of
questions,
but
I'm
going
to
open
it
to
the
committee
first
and
hopefully
we
can
have
some
good
conversation
here
and
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
questions
craig
a
lot
of
just
the
angles
to
look
at
this.
So
this
is
great
that
you're
here
and
a
great
opportunity
to
to
engage
together
to
begin
the
engagement
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
B
G
G
I've
I've
had
more
so
I
I
like
how
it
how
it
flows,
but
I
do
worry
that
there
is
a
bit
of
the
loss
of
what
I
called
in
the
military.
Well,
not
what
I
called
it
was.
The
military
structural
thing
was
the
selection
and
maintenance
of
the
aim.
It's
noted
in
the
report
that
this
might
run
up
against
kingston's
other
strategies,
particularly
as
the
official
plan
gets
reviewed,
ongoing
right
now
and
to
to
kick
off
2024.
G
So
even
if
someone's
got
a
little
excuse
me
a
little
tiny
farm,
that's
you
know,
10
acres,
that
they
were
able
to
bootstrap
together,
they're,
going
to
find
themselves
less
inclined
to
invest
in
their
own
development
because
of
the
fear
that
larger
interests
are
going
to
literally
box
them
in,
and
I
know
that's
a
lot
of
hypothetical,
but
when
you
see
it
in
a
strategy
document
you
would
say
I'm
not
sure
this
is
the
municipality
for
me.
So
this
kind
of
goes
to
councillor
usterhoff,
without
having
seen
the
minutes
of
that
city
council
meeting.
B
Mean
I
wouldn't
have
seen
that
I
think
we're
a
long
ways
from
having
those
concerns
right
craig.
This
is
this
we're
just
bringing
on
our
director
and
it
though
it's
a
valid
question.
John
I'm
just
gonna
just
from
my
angle
on
that.
I
think
that
that's
that's
miles
off,
and
certainly
if
we
want
to
raise
it
as
a
concern,
then
that's
a
good
one.
H
Yeah,
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
comment.
I
would
say
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
really
astute
observation
about
the
the
tension
between
this
plan
and
maybe
other
plans,
but
but
actually
I
I
would
view
that
kind
of
tension
as
very
positive.
There
should
be.
There
should
be
dialogue
right.
You
know,
the
the
rural
advisory
committee
has
always
been
a
voice
for
for
rural
kingston.
What
the
strategy
has
done
is
formalized
it
and
and
brought
you
to
the
table
of
the
fully
integrated
atomic
development.
H
So
this
is
you're
right
at
the
table
with
with
everybody
else.
I
would
suggest
you
weren't
before,
but
but
again
you
you,
the
the
plan
for
rural
kingston
is
is
on
record.
It's
been
supported
and
endorsed,
making
sure
that
the
use
you
you
actually
share
that
kind
again,
if
you're,
not
from
a
rural
community.
You
don't
understand
your
example
about
the
bees,
like
that.
H
That's
a
great
example
of
why
you
have
to
have
you
know
buffers
around
if
you're,
if
you
have
a
you
know
bees,
you
need
to
have
a
flowers
to
pollinate
to
get
to
honey.
So
again
I
would
say
this
is
an
opportunity
for
for
for
us
for
the
the
committees
and
then
certainly
the
the
working
groups
to
start
to
formulate
those
concerns
and
start
to
develop
those
scorecards
and
and
really
define
what
rural
kingston
wants.
G
It
seems
like
all
of
the
farm
organizations
right
now:
ofa
national
pharmacy
union,
the
christian
farmers
and
the
the
national
farmland
trust
they're.
Talking
about
this
idea
of
class,
four
five
and
six
farmland
still
being
good
land,
especially
you
know
here
in
kingston,
where
we've
got
a
big
goat
production
facility
class
six
land
is
great
boat
passes
perfect
for
them.
G
G
What
is
that
costing
and
I'm
putting
it
in
the
context
of
we
just
had
a
property
tax
increase
and
councillor
roosterhoff?
Can
we
have
a
property
tax
freebie
for
people
with
a
farm
business
registration
number
and
have
a
cost
avoidance
of
so
many
thousand
per
year
instead
of
a
cost
addition
of
so
many
thousand
per
year.
H
So
so
that's
that's
a
good
question
I'll
explain
how
the
the
money
was
approved,
so
the
funds
for
this
position
council
approved
up
to
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
cover
the
next
couple
of
years
of
expenses.
We
haven't
got
to
the
point
where,
as
I
said,
we're
looking
to
hire
so
we
haven't
built
out
the
full
budget,
but
I
would
say
the
money
comes
from
the
municipal
reserve
fund,
so
that's
pre-existing
funds
that
are
in
reserve.
So
it's
not
coming
out
of
the
tax
base.
H
Yes,
and
what
I
also
will
say
is-
and
I
don't
want
to
be
boastful
because
we're
canadians-
we
don't
do
that,
but
our
group
that
the
the
manager
will
report
to
me.
We
are
very
good
at
getting
grants.
The
in
the
case
of
the
the
workforce
development
project,
we
got
the
same
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
municipal
reserves.
A
couple
years
ago,
we've
been
able
to
leverage
that
with,
I
think
we're
we're
over
four
million
dollars
in
grants
to
actually
do
stuff.
H
B
Thank
you,
john
for
those
questions,
and
I
appreciate
the
expertise
and
the
angle
craig
on
the
on
the
one
thing
that
john
brought
up.
That
is,
maybe
we
can
look
at
to
and
that
I
had
written
down
the
official
plan
review.
That's
gonna
be
really
important
to
us
as
well
and
that
we,
you
know,
do
the
onion
skin
layover.
We
want
to
really
be
careful
with
that,
and
I
know
it's
out
there.
I
think
it
was
released
today.
Did
we
see
that
today?
I
think
I
think
it
was.
B
B
Maybe
we
can
ask
for
that,
mr
clerk,
if
we
can
make
a
note
on
that
to
have
them
speak
to
us
as
well
from
planning,
because
that's
the
first
time
I
really
read
about
the
unofficial
plan
review
related
to
hamlet,
zoning,
residential
development
and
land
use
strategy,
really
really
important
topics
for
us,
and
I
think
it
does
strike
a
nerve
for
the
rural
area,
and
I
understand
it
totally.
I
don't
feel
intimidated
by
it
because
I
think
there's
a
harmonization.
B
I
think
that
we
have
people
who
understand
the
sensitivities
of
doing
this
in
a
rural
area
and
maintaining,
as
I've
made
notes
here,
our
real
values.
And
so
I
I
that's
going
to
be
something
we
can
talk
more
about.
But
if
craig,
if
you
know
more
of
how
we
can
engage
or
are
you
waiting
for
our
our
earl,
the
director
or
is
how
much
engagement
have
we
had
with
with
planning
on
this
already.
H
That's
a
great
question:
I
think
the
amount
of
engagement
since
it's
just
been
released,
as
has
been
limited,
I
think
the
the
process
of
engagement
is
is
now
the
the
big
piece
again.
I
I
think
the
rural
advisory
committee
is
a
is
very
much
in
its
rights
to
invite
paige
and
her
team
to
come
on
out
and
present
to
us
and
and
really
use
use
the
the
structure
of
the
rural
advisory
committee
as
an
engagement
piece
for
rural
kingston,
and
let
people
share
their
their
views.
H
This
is
the
time
this
is
you
know
if
you
wait
until
after
it's
already
created,
you
know
we
would
miss
the
boat
again
having
having
a
dedicated
person
in
this
new
role
to
to
actually
action.
Your
your
concerns
to
attend
meetings
on
your
behalf
report
back
on
those
meetings
and
to
make
sure
that
those
engagement
opportunities
are
arranged,
certainly
working
in
collaboration
with
derek
his
great
team.
But
again
it's
it.
There's
a
lot
of
meetings
with
those
things
as
it
comes
through.
B
Yeah,
no,
no
we'll
be
watching,
and
I
am
right
all
within
this.
This
is
integral
to
my
wheelhouse,
so
I
really
want
to
be
part
of,
but
I
do
want
to
assure
this
committee
and
residents
that
this
is
something
that
we're
we're
on
top
of,
and
so
but
this
has
been
evolving
and
moving
forward
so,
and
maybe
others
have
that
we
can
bring
this
one
up
again.
It's
not
done
so.
I
see
allison's
hands
up
and
we'll
go
from
there.
Thank
you,
allison
for
patience.
F
F
F
That
is
one
themed
working
group
that
needs
to
have
people
tackling
that
issue
specifically
because
that
is
where
you're
going
to
have
no
doubt
about
it.
You're
going
to
have
butting
heads,
I
mean
if
we
were
to
go
out
into
the
real
countryside
of
city
kingston,
right
now
and
say:
hey
did
you
know
this
was
happening.
H
I
you
know
my
group
is
a
very
big
proponent
of
design,
thinking
and
design
thinking
methodologies
and
it's
the
critical
component
is
you
have
those
involved
in
in
the
problem?
Actually
co-create
the
solution?
It's
not
a
top-down!
I'm
not
going
to
develop
the
solution.
That's
for
sure
it's
going
to
be
developed
together.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
craig
excellent
question.
Allison
and
you
know
I
think
it's
one
that
we're
going
to
hear
more
from,
but
because
I
don't,
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
where
we're
heading
is,
you
know
massive
use
of
our
farmland.
I
just
don't
think
that's.
That's
necessarily
the
context
of
any
of
this
craig
is
there
just
on
allison's
allison.
If
you
can
expand
on
that
a
little
bit,
but
the
climate
change
input
and
strategic
plan
for
it.
For
that
I
mean
the
rural
area.
B
We
never
really
mentioned
the
rural
area,
but
the
rural
area
is
a
diamond
in
our
hand
when
it
comes
to
climate
change
solutions-
and
you
know,
co
sequestering
sequestering.
You
know
there's
so
much
that
we
contribute
in
the
rural
area
to
our
climate
change
initiatives
and
has
is
that
going
to
be
something
that
we
also
consider
in
in?
Obviously
we
will.
I
know
we
will
because
it's
part
of
our
strategy
strategy,
but
it's
not
really.
How
is
it
embedded
in
this
plan.
B
Yeah,
and
so
maybe,
mr
clerk,
if
we
could
mention
that
julie,
salter,
keen
to
also
ask
how
the
calculations
are
made
and
the
contributions
of
the
rural
area
are,
is
significant
and
often
forgotten.
I
believe,
and
there
are
naturals
not
even
we
don't
have
to
try.
It
just
happens.
It's
the
nature.
You
know
so
in
our
farms,
our
farmland
and
and
the
crops
so,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
need
to
be
a
a
serious
component
to
to
to
this
as
well.
I
see
john's
hand
I'll
get
you
two
john.
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
mention
again
the
transit
opportunities
and
discussions
that
we
have.
I
really
appreciated
you
mentioning
that
we
have
conversations
already
been
going
on
for
like
two
or
three
years,
and
I
know
lots
of
requests.
We
don't
have
transit
here
tonight,
but
they
could
speak
to
that.
But
I
think
that
there
is
a
component
that
our
our
governments
are
looking
for
too,
that
you
know
provincially.
B
We,
I
think
we
have
some
funding
that
had
just
come
through
regarding
pilots,
you
know
and
conversations
for
the
hamlets
and
that
too
so
again
complementing
climate
change
issues
allowing
residents
in
the
rural
area
not
to
have
to
drive
into
the
city,
especially
if
we
you
know
picture
the
glen
burnie
one
up
here.
You
know
there's
a
little
more
development.
B
H
Sorry,
maybe
just
I'll
just
speak
to
the
rural
transit.
Before
john
makes
comment.
You
know,
part
of
the
positioning
of
the
rural
transit
right
now
is
around
workforce.
The
government
is
very
interested
in
understanding
how
it
can
facilitate
access
to
to
job
opportunities
for
all
ontarians
and
all
canadians.
H
One
of
the
one
of
the
opportunities
is
to
see
how
we
can
make
sure
that
people
have
an
easier
opportunity
to
get
in
to
urban
kingston
for
employment,
I'm
sure
everybody's
reading
headlines
in
in
in
local
and
national
papers
about
significant
shortages
in
staff.
I
hear
that
in
manufacturing.
I
hear
that
in
just
about
every
sector.
H
B
Very
interesting
topic
craig,
thank
you
for
that
I
mean,
if
you
check
the
arteries
of
driving
into
kingston
in
the
morning,
it'll
blow
your
mind,
all
the
others
picture
them
all
east
northeast,
so
not
south,
but
you
know,
the
number
of
vehicles
coming
into
the
city
on
a
given
day
are
are
are
incredible
and
I
I
we
could
never
make
them
all
in
transit,
but
it
is
worthy
of
a
conversation
of
component
of
inclusion
in
there.
So
go
ahead.
John.
G
G
So
I
think
that,
as
iterations
of
this
strategy
move
forward,
we
need
to
put
a
value
on
ecosystem
services,
which
goes
to
also
what
councilor
roosterhoff
was
talking
about
and
I'll
use
kingston's
tree
planting
strategies
an
example.
I
think
it
was
this
time.
Last
year
they
were
talking
about
the
30
000
trees,
that
cities
of
kingston
is
going
to
plant
and
at
the
time
I
was
thinking
well,
that's
great,
and
I
asked
what
does
that
mean
in
terms
of
coverage
of
tree
area?
G
I've
planted
5
000
trees
on
my
farm.
A
lot
of
them
are
fruit
trees.
But
from
the
answer
I
got
at
that
meeting
a
tree
is
a
tree,
so
we
can
value
that
as
the
kingston
climate
emergency
thing
continues
and
say,
we
would
be
losing
the
intangible
value
of
ecosystem
services,
which
are
extremely
difficult
to
quantify
until
they're
gone
and
I'll
use
an
example
that
I
used
in
a
paper
that
I
used
for
my
international
trade
law
course
in
2019.
G
I
think
it
was
so
I
was
talking
about
free
trade
and
I
was
concerned.
I
was
also
putting
in
the
context
of
farmland
loss
which,
in
my
opinion
and
the
opinion
of
a
lot
of
organization
in
this
province,
is
an
irreversible
sort
of
loss.
When
it
happens,
you
can't
bring
back
topsoil
well,
you
can,
but
it
takes
centuries.
G
G
The
interesting
thing
about
that
is
that
in
brazil
the
forested
area
was
reduced
by
541
000
square
kilometers.
All
canada
stayed
the
same.
So
when
we're
talking
about
apparently
unproductive
farmland
in
canada
being
rezoned,
you
know
that
10
cows
on
pasture
and
inefficient
use
of
farmland,
which
might
not
make
a
lot
of
economic
sense
when
you're
purely
looking
at
the
employment
generated
by
the
tax
revenues
generated
by
the
market
activity
generated
by
it
translates
pretty
literally
into
a
swath
of
the
amazon
rainforest
being
cut
down.
G
The
world
bank
is
tracking
that
and
that's
what
the
figures
are
showing.
So,
if
we're
talking
about
re-zoning,
apparently
on
productive
land
and
kingston
globally,
that
can
be
the
results,
and
I
know
that's
pretty
outside
the
scope
of
this
particular
forum.
But
it
bears
thinking
as
we
continue
moving
forward.
Different
iterations
of
this
strategy.
H
That's
a
that's,
a
really
interesting
observation
and
again
an
ongoing
discussion.
It
is
curious,
though
your
comment,
but
the
fact
do
we
count
the
trees,
the
5
000
trees
that
you
planted
within
our
within
our
tree,
inventory
yeah.
Why
does
it
does
it
matter
whether
the
city
plants
it
or
you
plant
it?
I
think
it
just
matters.
We
have
more
trees,
right,
yeah,
so
so
again,
like
those
are
the
kind
of
things.
G
C
C
I
see
farms
that
were
basically
considered
poor
farms
being
tiled
being
brought
up
to
snuff
they're,
producing
as
good
a
crop
as
any
of
the
land
in
the
whole
area.
So
I
I
find
it
interesting
that
I'm
seeing
the
exact
opposite
to
what
I
see
in
your
brief
and
maybe
I'm
wrong.
Maybe
it's
just
the
area
I
live
in.
You
know,
but
even
when
I
drive
across
the
south
front
neck
and
the
west
end
of
kingston,
I
see
land
improvement
everywhere,
land
being
utilized
producing
three
four
times.
C
Base
of
the
brief,
is
it
actually
accurate?
I
don't
know
where
the
information
is
all
coming
from
and
that's
just
what
I've
noticed
and
I
wonder
if,
when
you're
worrying
about
the
hamiltons,
I'm
totally
in
agreement
with
the
the
fact
that
I
think
most
people,
especially
where
I
live,
are
a
hundred
percent
against
it.
But
in
our
area,
maybe
up
closer
to
kingston.
That
makes
sense,
hopefully
not
at
the
expense
of
good
farmland.
H
So
that's
all
a
very
interesting
comment,
charlie
just
about
you
know
improving
the
quality
of
farmland
as
opposed
to
the
the
amount
of
farmland
the
the
the
data
came
from
our
consultants
who
got
it
from.
I
think
it
was
from
from
agriculture,
canada
through
some
surveying
map
mapping,
but
that
probably
would
have
been
at
least
two
or
three
years
old.
So
we
can
certainly
go
back
and
find
out
what
the
what
the
date
is-
and
I
apologize.
H
I
don't
have
that
just
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
but
that
that's
an
interesting
observation
and
it
could
very
well
be.
You
know,
in
areas
that
you're
seeing
it's
it's
land,
that's
being
improved
for
farming,
whereas
in
other
areas,
perhaps
more
that
is
closer
to
to
urban
kingston.
It's
actually
land
that's
being
being
taken
away
from
farming,
but
we
can
certainly
follow
up
on
that.
C
Yeah,
I
just
find
it
interesting
because
I
see
farmers,
our
machinery
has
gotten
so
expensive
and
we
need
more
and
more
land
to
justify
the
acquisition
of
a
capital
asset
like
machinery,
so
fields
are
getting
used
that
probably
were
never
really
utilized
back
when
we
had
100
acre
and
50
acre
farms
anyway.
That's
all
I've
got
to
say
about
that.
C
C
C
H
H
One
of
the
groups
we
may
actually
invite
to
participate
with
us
or
maybe
come
present
to
us
is-
is
the
the
local
farm
credit
canada,
very
good
officer
and
and
see
what
again,
as
I
said,
they're
the
ones
that
led
that
farmer
succession
program,
which
is
which
is
absolutely
exceptional
in
the
programming
that
they
provide
and
support
programs?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
engage
them
as
an
import
partner?
They
certainly
have
resources
that
they
can
bring
to
bear.
B
My
industry
has
such
an
involvement
with
apprenticeships
and
I've,
probably
trained
50
to
100
young
men
and
women
to
become
a
establish,
a
great
career
and
I've
often
thought
about
other
industries
could
could
model
some
of
that
and
I'm
sure
that's
what
farm
credits
intentions
were.
But
you
know
all
of
us
have
farms
and
businesses.
B
I
know:
allison's
got
incredible
staff
there,
they
they're
all
apprenticing
in
some
ways
you
know
any
any
workers
you
have
they're
all
when
we
immerse
young
people
in
in
our
workforce,
it
that's
how
we
change
lives
and,
and
then
they
get
that
bug
and
they
they
they
will
work
their
way.
To
a
point
of
you
know
high
con
skill
and-
and
so
that's
that's
all
part
of
this-
there's
a
synergy
that
is
created
when
we
when
we
grow
our
businesses,
when
we
include
include
our
youth
and
so
it's
it's.
B
It's
there's
a
lot
of
good
and
I'm
really
hopeful
that
this
conversation
tonight,
I
think,
there's
a
this
conversation
tonight
will
be
something
that
gives
us
more
confidence.
I
mean
I
spent
some
hesitancy
on
on
this
committee,
and
so
I
just
think
that
it's
what
that's
really
important.
That's
why
you're
here
craig,
so
that
we
can
air
our
our
worries
and
our
concerns
and
because
at
the
heart
of
that
is
we
want
to
also
protect
what
we
value
the
most
and
it's
the
quality
of
our
lives.
B
And-
and
I
I
get
that
totally-
I
want
that
too,
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
we're
going
to
enhance
that
quality,
it's
about
enhancing
that
quality
and
and
seeing
what
we
have
and
you
know.
Finally,
the
city
is
able
to
look
at
the
rural
area
and
understand
our
worth
and
our
place
in
the
fabric
of
the
city
and
what
we
can
contribute
to
many
many
lives.
So
this
is
that's
part
of
the
component
of
it
as
well.
So
I
don't
see
other
hands,
but
I
you
know,
there's
a
million
questions.
H
H
Just
it's
a
great
start
to
mr
chair
and
we're.
Certainly
what
I
would
say
is
staff
is
excited.
I'm
excited.
I
missed
the
days
when
I
used
to
have
boots
in
the
back
of
my
car
and
got
to
go
out
and
visit
farms
in
my
cftc
days.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
again,
I
miss
the
I
miss
getting
out
into
the
fields
and
and
speaking
to
to
farmers.
So
it's
certainly
very
exciting
that
the
the
you
know
the
implementation
office
is
part
of
my
group.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
just
just
to
reiterate,
because
it's
it's
so
important
to
this
whole
conversation
about
attracting
new
farmers,
encouraging
local
food
consumption,
foster
innovation
and
farming,
and
it's
going
to
go
back
to
and
thankfully,
mr
desjardins,
you
have
a
background
in
community
futures
development,
corporation
and
and
that
whole
organization,
because
I
want
to
reiterate
the
importance
of
let's
get
these
boundaries
changed,
so
that
future
funding
opportunities
will
include
the
rural
residents
within
the
city
of
kingston.
That
I
think
that's
going
to
be
very
important.
F
Maybe
that
needs
its
own
working
group
within.
You
know
this
new
hire,
because
it's
so
it's
so
important,
because
what
we
have
is
inequities
in
our
own
community
and
that's
that's
not
that's
not
really
right
in
our
own
in
our
own
community.
So
you've,
you
know.
As
far
as
you
know,
you
need
to
level
the
playing
field
for
everybody
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
very,
very
important
to
to
underpinning
the
success
of
of
selling
and
supporting
this
real
economic
development
strategy.
F
H
That's
wonderful,
so
maybe
what
I
can
suggest
to
to
the
committee
into
the
acting
chair
is,
I
will
come
back
at
the
next
meeting
and
we
can
have
it.
You
know
the
convenience
of
of
this
group
with
the
presentation
of
the
report
that
has
been
completed.
Some
highlights
that
I
don't
wanna
it's
it's
a
big
report.
H
I
maybe
invite
donna
to
join
us
because
john
donna
was
involved
and
is
obviously
very
active
in
in
the
space
and
and
that's
where
we'll
craft
the
motion
in
advance
and
provide
advice
to
you
on
the
language
and
and
get
going
on
that
and
and
then
approach
mp
garrettson
and
even
the
neighboring.
The
new
members
of
parliament
in
in
the
neighboring
communities.
B
Well,
scott
reed
is
well
to
to
the
north
and
shelby.
There's
gotta
be
a
ways
that
we
can
team
up.
I
am
committed
to
this.
We
probably
should
have
done
it
long
ago,
but
now
that
we
have
a
team
like
with
craig
here
and
and
donna
we
have.
We
have
the
the
personnel
now
to
put
this
daily.
So
john,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
I
hope
that's
going
to
be.
B
A
Yeah,
I
can
speak
to
this,
mr
chair,
so
mr
wornham
sent
me
a
copy
of
his
motion.
I
will
pop
it
up
on
the
screen
in
a
second,
but
I
just
want
to
say
the
procedure
for
the
notice
of
motion
is
we'll
need
to
get
a
seconder
and
I'm
sure
that
won't
be
hard
based
on
the
discussion
and
as
for
the
topic,
mr
wornham
gets
a
couple
of
minutes
if
he
just
wants
to
speak
to
it
at
all.
I
know
he's
spoken
to
it
already.
A
There's
technically
no
discussion
at
the
committee
point
at
this.
But
what
will
happen
is
by
him
presenting
it
with
himself
as
the
mover
and
then
somebody
else
is
the
seconder.
It
will
then
ensure
it
is
placed
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting
of
the
committee,
which
I
believe
is
currently
scheduled
for
december,
so
yeah
it'll
be
on
there
it'll
be
on
the
record,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
get
that
on
the
screen
and
john.
G
Average
age
group
of
the
rural
area-
that
was
unkind,
I'm
sorry
so
the
notice
of
motion
and
we'll,
of
course,
tweak
this
and
several
weeks
between
now.
The
next
meeting
is
that
the
rural
advisory
committee
recommend
to
council
that
the
provincial
and
federal
levels
of
government
be
sent
a
formal
request
from
the
city
of
kingston
that
the
boundaries
of
the
community
futures
development
corporation
bracket,
cfdc
from
that
county,
be
expanded
to
include
the
rural
zone
of
the
city
of
kingston.
Despite
the
existing
boundaries
along
highway
38
and
highway,
401.
A
Great
everybody
wanted
to
get
in
on
that
one,
so
we
have
that
so
now
it
will
go
on
the
agenda.
It'll
be
up
there
for
discussion
at
the
next
meeting
and
yes,
there
can
be
refinements
made
to
it
at
the
meeting
for
the
final
wording
of
the
motion.
So
that's
everything
mr
chair,
we're
all
set
for
that
for
december.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
thank
you,
john
for
that
and
for
the
committee
agreeing
to
that
that's
great
stuff.
So
that's
the
it
for
notice
is
a
motion.
I
don't
believe
there
are
other
any
other
business
and
not
that
I
know
of
any
correspondence
so
we'll
move
to
the
date
of
the
next
meeting.
As
we've
said,
the
next
meeting
of
the
earl
advisory
committee
is
scheduled
for
december
15th.
B
Don't
see
that
on
there,
but
that's
going
to
be
a
wednesday
again,
yeah,
that's
a
wednesday
at
six
o'clock,
and
so
we
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
and
john
seconds
that
all
in
favor
of
adjournment
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
once
again,
I
want
to
thank
craig
and
donna
and
everyone
for
their
involvement
in
this
meeting
tonight.
Excellent
conversations
and
directions
and
learnings
and
excitement
to
move
forward.
So
thank
everybody
for
being
here
tonight
and
I
will
call
this
meeting
adjourned
have
a
great
night.