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Rural Advisory Committee meeting from August 8, 2022. For full meeting agenda visit https://bit.ly/3QaoMeB
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C
So
before
I
begin
madam
chair,
I
will
just
quickly
run
down
that
we
are
currently
missing:
counselor,
boehm,
counselor,
usterhoff
and
charles
forman,
and
joining
us
from
staff.
This
evening
is
elizabeth,
foster
the
committee
clerk.
She
is
our
meeting
host
and
tracy
snow,
the
rural,
economic
and
community
development
manager,
along
with
myself,
the
committee
clerk
for
this
meeting.
There
are
currently
no
members
of
the
public
in
the
public
viewing
gallery
with
all
that.
I'm
happy
to
turn
it
over
to
you,
madam
chair.
B
B
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
we'll
move
on
to
briefings
and
we
have
tracy
snow,
the
manager
of
the
rural,
economic
and
community
development
who's
going
to
be
speaking
very
much
looking
forward
to
this
and
there
she
is
camera
on
hi,
tracy,
welcome
and
okay.
I'm
sure
you've
got
lots
to
share
for
the
first
couple
of
quarters:
q1
q2.
So
please
the
floor
is.
D
Yours,
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much,
and
so
before
we
start
the
powerpoint.
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
how
wonderful
this
is
that
I'm
finally
getting
to
talk
to
you
and
and
be
part
of
this
conversation
allison
you
and
I
have
spoken
before
john
you
and
I
have
spoken
before,
and
you
know
my
apologies
cameron.
We
haven't
literally
spoken
face-to-face
before,
but
that
has
to
happen
as
well.
D
So
my
my
role
tonight
is
to
update
you
on
how
everything
has
been
happening
and
what
has
been
going
on
since
I
started
in
december
and
all
of
the
great
progress
that
we've
come
across
and
projects
that
we're
doing
and
looking
forward
to
your
feedback
after
so,
thank
you
so
much
for
this.
So
please
go
ahead
on
the
powerpoint.
D
So,
as
you
all
know,
my
role
started
in
december
of
2021.
I
apologize.
I
think
the
first
meeting
was
december
8th
when
you
guys
had
your
meeting
in
december,
and
I
I
wasn't
on
the
agenda
and
I
wasn't
able
to
speak
and
that's
okay.
So
here
I
am
today,
I'm
gonna
review
the
goals
and
the
strategy
objectives
just
to
reaffirm
everything.
D
That's
been
happening
and
what
your
goals
have
been
and
what
council's
goals
have
been
as
well,
and
what
we're
doing
to
accommodate
that
talk
about
connecting
with
departments,
community
partners
talk
about
the
project
goals
for
2022,
and
then
the
resources
and
funding
in
the
people
that
I've
been
working
with
to
help
support
this.
Please
next
slide.
D
So
sorry,
my
apologies,
I
have
I
have
you
on
the
right
side,
which
means
I
can't
see
the
slide
so
just
one
second,
please
I
apologize
okay.
There
we
go
so
just
to
go
back
to
the
kingston
world
strategy
and
the
components
it's
been
quite
a
while,
since
we
we
had
spoken
quite
a
while,
probably
since
you
had
been
speaking
to
everybody
about
the
real
strategy
components,
so
I'm
gonna
just
go
back
to
the
strategy
components
and
then
talk
about
the
things
that
have
been
happening.
D
So
there
were
two
components:
seven
themes,
15
recommendations
on
the
new
kingston
economic
development
strategy
for
the
rural,
the
rural
area,
development
opportunities
was
component.
One
enablers
was
component
two,
so
agricultural
opportunities,
tourism
opportunities,
hamlet,
led
development,
rural
cluster
development.
D
When
I
got
hired
in,
and
so
I
I've
worked
with
craig
desjardins,
the
head
of
our
department
for
strategy,
innovation
and
partnerships
for
I've,
known
him
for
about
14
years,
and
I
feel
really
lucky
to
be
working
back
in
that
department.
Again,
when
I
was
given
the
responsibilities
of
the
royal
strategy
and-
and
they
handed
me
okay,
so
here
all
the
the
things
that
you
need
to
be
doing
and
all
of
the
work
that
has
to
be
done
and
I'm
like.
D
Supporting
rural
communities.
My
background
is
rural
economic
development.
I
had
12
years
with
lennox
stanton
county
as
a
rural
economic
development
officer,
senior
officer
for
them
and
really
really
excited
to
be
making
some
some
serious
moves
to
support
rural
strategy
and
and
helping
you
guys
component.
Two
enablers,
so
project
selection
approval
I'll
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
that
review
of
funding
envelopes.
So
we'll
talk
about
that
as
well.
We
have
troy
in
our
department
that
helps
with
funding
and
grants
and
then
identifying
alternative
servicing
options.
D
D
So
a
recommendation
number
one
was
agricultural
development,
attracting
farmers,
awareness
of
farms.
So
we
have
two
projects,
two
or
three
projects
that
have
been
talking
about
awareness
of
firms
and
some
of
that
strategy:
community
training
firms
projects.
So
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
Sorry,
I'm
just
looking
at
my
notes
here.
D
So
we
were
awarded
by
the
province
of
ontario
through
the
skills
development
fund,
almost
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars,
probably
in
april
or
may
of
this
year,
and
that
money
was
put
towards
a
community
training
firms
project
we
have
coordinated
with
st
lawrence
college
and
also
with
living
spoonful
and
ourselves,
and
we
are
putting
together
an
on-firm
training
program.
That's
actually
helping
with
excuse
me
and
the
other
partner
is
also
excuse.
Me
corrections,
canada,
so
corrections.
D
D
St
lawrence
college
is
then
supporting
us
in
trades
training,
so
carpentry
electrical
in
november
and
december,
and
then
the
goal
is
in
january
february
and
march
that
we're
going
to
take
these
25
to
30
participants
and
then
we're
going
to
have
them
get
jobs
within
the
farming
community,
so
loving
spoonful
is
the
acting
operating
manager.
Ayla
fenton
had
hired
somebody
for
this
project,
specifically
to
be
the
on-firm
training
manager.
D
We
have
had
a
number
of
calls
from
farmers
in
the
area
already
wanting
these
participants
to
be
employed
by
them.
Late
fall,
you
know
early
winter
and
so
we're
we're
feeling
very
encouraged
that
this
is
a
phenomenal
program
not
only
to
support
local
farms
and
their
employment
needs,
but
also
to
support
agriculture
and
to
really
showcase
that
we're
here
to
support
agriculture
and
its
demands.
Again.
This
is
a
skills
development
fund.
So
it's
all
about
training
and
education
to
help
support
employees
in
the
agricultural
environment
and
help
support
farming
in
the
agricultural
environment.
D
In
kingston
it
used
to
be
called
open
farms
front
act,
we've
encouraged
our
local
farmers
in
the
city
of
kingston
and
rural
kingston
to
participate.
We
have
two
or
three
right
now
that
are
participating.
Frontier
county
has
been
gracious
in
still
organizing
the
event
and
supporting
the
event.
This
is
a
trial
year
for
us
to
see
how
things
are
working
out
and
how
how
this
partnership
is.
Looking,
it's
been
phenomenal.
So
far,
our
office
at
the
city
of
kingston
is
supporting
on
the
ticketing
piece.
D
D
Bit
further:
okay:
there
we
go
okay.
The
next
piece
is
encouraging
local
food
consumption
in
terms
of
the
recommendations,
so
open
farms
harvest.
So
we
have
open
farms,
which
is
on
september
10th
and
11th,
and
then
we
decided
so
city
kingston
thought.
You
know
what
we
need
to
have:
a
celebration
of
farming
harvest
agricultural
harvest
together,
ship
in
terms
of
food,
local,
food,
local
chefs,
education,
big
one
by
education,
about
what
our
local
farms
are
doing.
How
do
we
work
together
with
our
local
farms,
local
food
and
show
people
within
our
community,
our
residents?
D
How
local
food
is
so
important
to
you
know
to
what
we
do
into
their
economy
and
to
themselves
in
terms
of
eating
and
in
terms
of
celebrations?
So
we
are
having
an
open
farms
harvest
first
ever
event
on
sunday
october,
2nd
we'll
send
you
more
information,
I'm
just
literally
in
the
in
the
midst
of
putting
all
together
this
information,
tourism
kingston
has
been
kind
enough
to
support
us
with
a
consultant
who's
done.
Events
before
so.
The
event
coordinator
is
her.
Name
is
natalie
from
golden
fife.
D
She's
done
king's,
delicious
countalicious
she's
done
events
in
toronto.
She's
done
amazing
events
in
kelowna
and
western
canada
and
bc
events
in
new
york
city,
so
tourism
kingston
is
supporting
us
by
allowing
her
to
have
services
so
that
we
can
work
together
with
her
to
make
this
open
farms.
Harvest
event
happen.
D
So
it's
about
education,
food
collaboration,
local
farms,
local
chefs
and
we're
going
to
have
the
whole
market
square
and
city
hall
open
as
a
venue
for
100
to
150
participants,
we're
hoping
we're
hoping
at
least
100
to
celebrate
harvest
to
do
an
education
in
terms
of
what's
happening
with
our
local
food
and
I'm
just
pulling
up
one
quick
thing.
My
apologies.
D
Yeah
and
so
in
terms
of
it's
it's
all
about
food
strategy
and
in
touching
upon
council
objectives
and
and
the
objectives
of
course,
of
the
rural
strategy
as
well.
The
second
piece
on
encouraging
local
food
consumption
is
the
kingston
public
market,
so
in
conjunction
with
rec
and
leisure,
I've
been
fortunate
enough
to
be
working
with
them
on
some
of
the
events.
D
Rec
and
leisure
have
been
managing
the
kingston
public
market
and
I
think
all
of
you
know
so.
Market
square
is
defined
as
the
kingston
public
market
right
now,
because
we
can't
define
ourselves
as
a
farmers
market
because
of
the
destiny.
So
we
do
not
have
51
percent
of
the
vendors,
our
local
firms
and
that's
been
quite
a
while,
so
we
actually
have
an
rfp,
so
rec
and
leisure,
heaven
of
our
department
of
kingston,
has
a
rfp
going
out
we're
hoping
in
the
next
week.
D
That's
going
to
be
looking
for
an
operator
to
help
support
us
in
managing
the
kingston
public
market.
Right
now,
city
of
kingston
manages
that
we're
looking
at
having
an
operator
contracted,
not
an
employee,
not
internally.
An
operator
contracted
to
support
us
with
the
development
of
the
kingston
public
market.
Our
goal
is
to
revise
the
designation
to
a
kingston
farmers
market,
where
we
reach
that
51
percent
vendor
participation
in
terms
of
local
farms.
D
I've
been
very
gratefully
asked
to
be
overseeing
that
whole
project,
and
so
we're
really
excited
to
say
that
our
goal
for
2023
is
to
look
at
market
square
redevelop
it
as
a
kingston
farmers
market,
but
then
look
at
also
market
square
as
a
venue
of
opportunity
for
food,
local
food,
food
security,
sharing
events,
food
events,
we're
just
really
really.
We
haven't
done
any
definition
in
terms
of
what
that
looks
like.
D
The
other
piece
is
fostering
innovation
farming
since
this
powerpoint
presentation
since
the
agenda-
and
I
think
a
few
of
you
may
be
aware
of
this
already-
I'm
kind
of
I'm
really
sad
to
say
that
the
abattoir
project
that
I've
been
working
on
for
the
past
two
two
and
a
half
years
with
thorpe
farms
is
has
kind
of
stopped.
It's.
D
He
hasn't
received
the
funding
when
he
did
his
funding
launch
in
the
spring
and
summer,
he
hasn't
received
the
funding
that
he
thought
he
was
going
to
receive
and
he
is
publicly
announced.
So
his
name
is
corey
priest
from
thorpe
farms.
He
has
publicly
announced
that
he's
not
able
to
open
up
a
new
processing
facility
abattoir
in
napanee.
It
was
supposed
to
be
a
federal
facility,
both
white
meat,
red
meat.
D
I'm
telling
you,
though,
I
am
still
working
very
closely
with
linux
hanting
county,
because
I
used
to
work
there
and
still
working
very
closely
with
our
city
departments
and
still
working
very
closely
with
our
regional
offices
and
omafra
to
see
if
we
can
actually
make
this
happen.
So
I'm
I'm
not
prepared
to
to
let
this
lie.
D
The
second
piece
is
and
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
really
get
into
the
details
from
a
confidentiality
standpoint,
but
we
have
a
pr.
We
have
a
an
opportunity
from
a
production
standpoint
on
a
really
innovative
product
with
some
local
farms.
One
of
the
farms
is
in
kingston
and
one
of
the
firms
is
in
line
of
santa
county
and
they're
working
together
to
see
about
some
really
innovative
product
offering.
I
I
will
let
you
know
more.
D
The
other
piece
is
looking
for
niche
and
value-added
food
production
opportunities,
really
great
project,
so
background.
We
have
commercial
kitchen
opportunities,
we
have
two
or
three
right
now
in
the
city
of
kingston.
We
have
quite
a
number
in
role
in
our
rural
areas.
Excuse
me
seth
von
neck
and
phonic
as
well.
D
The
challenge
is
is
that
we
have
commercial
kitchens
available,
our
food
producers,
our
local
residents,
our
farmers.
They
don't
know
what
that
could
look
like
in
terms
of
a
business
model.
So
why
would
we
have?
What
what
can
I
do
with
a
commercial
kitchen?
What
is
it
that
I
you
know?
So
we
have
a
commercial
kitchen.
I
grow
food.
What
is
that
related?
How
does
that
relate
to
itself?
I
have
businesses,
retail
businesses,
calling
me
saying:
how
do
I
find
more
local
food?
How
do
I
find
more
local
made
food?
D
I
have
people
calling
me
saying.
I
want
to
make
food,
but
I
don't
know
what
that
looks
like.
What
does
that
look
like?
Is
it
a
business?
Are
there
processes
what's
the
province
model,
you
know
what
is
the
kflna
model?
How
does
this
look
like
about
seven
or
eight
years
ago
I
held
in
lena
santa
county?
D
So
we're
going
to
have
a
training
day,
the
beginning
of
november
whole
day
of
training
about
what
is
making
food.
Look
like
what
does
a
commercial
kitchen
mean
to
you?
What
is
you
know,
making
food
look
like
in
terms
of
the
business
that
you're
thinking
of
what
about
residents
who
are
thinking
of
making
food
don't
have
access?
Maybe
they
can
be
working
with
farmers
about
hey,
you
know
what
can
you
grow
this
and
this
and
this
this
spring,
because
I'm
thinking
that
I'd
like
to
make
some
food
and
sell
it
commercially?
D
You
know
to
our
community
businesses,
so
I'm
working
on
developing
a
whole
piece
marketing
collateral
and
what
our
commercial
kitchen
availability
is
marketing
collateral
on
what
it
looks
like
you
know,
to
be
making
food
in
a
commercial
kitchen
and
then
having
a
day
of
training
at
the
beginning
of
november,
with
omafra,
with
kflna
with
ourselves
and
talking
about
entrepreneurship
regulations,
packaging
labeling
like
everything
they
need
to
know.
So
that's
another
project
that
I've
been
working
on
as
well,
and
it's
going
really
well,
it's
going
as
far
as
I
know
really
smoothly.
D
Okay,
so
supports
a
recommendation:
hamlet
development,
supporting
hamlet-based
development,
so
I
want
to
say
very
clearly
the
hamlet,
led
development
piece
is
a
longer-term
vision
in
the
royal
strategy,
much
longer
term
vision.
So
I'm
thinking
you
know,
I'm
working
with
real
estate,
I'm
working
with
planning.
You
know
working
with
kingston
economic
development,
so
looking
at
different
ways
in
terms
of
what
that
hamlet,
led
development
means
working
with
developers.
D
I
have
somebody
on
staff
right
now:
that's
helping
look
at
provincial
mandates
and
our
municipal
mandates
in
terms
of
what
does
development
look
like?
What
does
rural
development
look
like?
What
are
our
limitations
and
our
capacities
of
the
provincial
level?
What
are
our
limitations
and
capacities
at
the
at
the
municipal
level
to
support
rural
development,
hamlet
development,
so
hamlet,
development
to
me,
and
I
think
to
the
strategy
means
you
know.
D
Let
me
give
you
an
example,
so
I
used
to
live
in
tamworth.
It's
a
little
community
northwest
of
kingston
and
tamworth
has
grocery
store
ice
rink
gas
stations,
liquor
store
library,
it
has
a
hardware
store.
It
had
kind
of
everything
that
you
needed
100
years
ago.
Tamworth
was
this
encompassing
little
community
that
actually
was
the
hub
of
a
paper
mill
like
a
mill
and
so
the
river.
D
Of
course,
cities
evolved
communities,
evolved,
mapping,
grew,
kingston,
grew
belleville
group,
rockville
brew
and
we
all
it
all
grew,
and
so
our
hamlets
became
smaller,
because
people
started
being
drawn
more
to
the
city,
we're
not
looking
to
build
little
mini
cities
in
rural
kingston,
but
what
we're
looking
at
doing
is
seeing
what
we
have
in
terms
of
hamlets
and
helping
expand
those
opportunities
within
those
hamlets
right,
so
helping
those
existing
four
corners
in
little
communities
grow
and
expand
in
those
little
communities
to
help
development.
So
we
can
help
with
commercial
development.
D
We
can
help
with
you
know,
retail
development.
We
can
help
them
build,
maybe
little
tiny
communities
and
and
little
streets
around
those
those
little
exact
existing
hamlets
that
we
currently
have.
We
are
not
looking
to
push
city
kingston
out.
We
are
looking
to
support
our
rural
communities
and
support
those
businesses
in
those
rural
communities
to
make
them
successful
period.
That's
that's
it.
There
are
some
challenges,
because
the
provincial
government
has
mandates
in
place
in
terms
of
what
that
growth
looks
like
we
have.
We
have
bylaws
in
place
that
regulate
what
those
look
like.
D
We
also
have,
of
course,
servicing
and
servicing
water
hydro.
You
know
all
of
that
that
are
also.
How
do
we
look
at
this?
What
do
we
do
so?
I
have
somebody
working
with
me
right
now
to
look
at
servicing
options
in
other
communities.
Look
at
cervix
servicing
options
in
ontario
across
canada,
looking
what
the
provincial
and
our
municipal
mandates
are
to
see
what
that
could
be.
D
I'm
telling
it
is
a
longer
term
project,
but
I
am
already
having
discussions
with
real
estate
planning
and
the
province
to
see
what
does
this
look
like,
and
how
do
we
make
this
happen
from
a
longer
term
vision?
I
know
from
the
strategy
standpoint.
It
was
also
a
longer
term
vision
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
where
we're
at
with
that
regard
next
slide,
please
I
missed
you
guys.
Oh
my
gosh,
there's
so
much
to
go
through.
D
I
feel
so
sorry
ian,
I'm
just
being
honest,
like
there's
a
lot
to
go
through
and
I'm
like
so
excited
to
finally
be
sharing
this
with
you
guys
all
right,
so
number
three
recommendations,
tourism
opportunities,
so
part
of
the
strategy.
Of
course,
one
of
the
third
pillars
is
animating
tourism
opportunities.
D
Looking
at
you
know
things
that
we
can
be
making
happen,
I
do
so
we
are.
We
have
been
working
on
a
real
cycling
event.
I
unfortunately
lost
the
person
that
was
helping
me
with
that
project
and
I've
had
to
put
it
on
hold,
but
absolutely
so,
we've
been
working
with
our
our
cycling
partners
and
the
cycling
groups
right
so
the
rural
cycling
groups
and
the
kingston
cycling
groups
we've
been
having
conversations
with
them
about.
What
does
this
look
like?
How
do
we
do
a
cycling
event?
D
So
the
the
recycling
event
that
we've
been
thinking
of
is
a
cycling
event
that
maybe
starts
at
the
investor
center
and
goes
up
and
through,
like
almost
a
harassment,
but
not
quite
and
then
kind
of
we
have
stocks,
and
we
have
food
vendors,
maybe
and
local
farmers
participating,
and
so
we're
just
we're.
Looking
at
doing
something
that
showcases
the
great
paths
that
we
have
in
rural
kingston
and
then
showcases
local
food,
local
farms
and
and
participation.
D
In
that
regard,
we
were
really
hoping
to
have
it
in
september,
and-
and
I
do
apologize
and
I'm
sorry-
I
couldn't
take
it
off
of
the
this
powerpoint
in
time,
but
we're
going
to
absolutely
be
doing
it
next
year.
So
that
is
that's
on
on
the
radar
and
we
have
local
cycling
groups
very
engaged
and
wanting
to
work
with
us,
as
well
as
as
well
as
tourism,
kingston
they're,
like
absolutely
on
board
to
support
us
in
what
that
could
be.
D
Tourism
kingston
has
a
great
piece
on
their
website
in
terms
of
cycling,
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
just
create
an
event
that
it's
not
just
city
of
kingston
cycling.
It's
also
hey.
Let's
start
at
the
city
of
kingston
and
let's
get
into
our
rural
routes
and
then
start
it
that
way,
so
that's
kind
of
the
goal
for
that
cycling
event
and
it'll
absolutely
happen
in
2023.
D
The
encourage
to
agritourism
initiatives
so
again,
open
firms,
tour,
which
we
talked
about
on
september
10th
and
11th,
really
excited
about
our
engagement
and
our
partnership
with
frontier
county
to
make
this
a
mutual
event:
the
open
farms,
harvest
october,
2nd
at
city
hall
in
market
square
and
then
the
kingston
public
market
development,
which
you
know
we're,
really
excited
about
as
well.
Next
slide,
please
I
need
some
water.
D
Excuse
me:
okay,
so
world
cluster
development
again
this
is
longer
term
projection,
much
much
deeper
research,
much
more
work
in
terms
of
seeing
what
are
our
opportunities.
What
can
we
be
doing
so
currently
in
the
past
eight
months
since
I've
been
on
in
the
role
we
are
working
closely
with
kingston
economic
development.
I
was
really
lucky
so
for
the
12
years
previous
to
the
to
this
role.
I
was
in
that
other
economic
development
role
with
lna,
and
I
worked
very
closely
with
king
smackdown
development.
So
I
have
an
amazing
relationship
with
them.
D
We
talk
all
the
time
so
working
with
them
on
what
is
that
you
know
business
park
development,
look
like
from
a
rural
capacity.
How
do
we
help
them?
Here's
the
thing!
So
when
I
was
the
senior
economic
development
officer
for
alexander
county,
I
was
getting
calls
from
king's
central
development
all
the
time
about
okay,
so
we
don't
have
the
land.
We
don't
have
the
land
that
we
need
for
business
development.
What
do
you
have
in
l
a
because
we
were
so
close
and
we
were
working
so
closely
together
now
that
I'm
in
kingston?
D
I'm
thinking
you
know
what
we
need
to
really
help
kingston
and
support
that
development,
so
we're
doing
a
lot
of
research,
I'm
working
closely
with
our
real
estate
department
and
our
planning
department
on
business
park,
development
and
land
opportunities,
so
real
estate
and
planning
we
have
different
opportunities
in
terms
of
some
land.
That's
been
available
that
city
kingston
is
looking
at
acquiring
and
I've
been
involved
in
all
those
discussions
in
terms
of
what
does
that
look
like
from
a
business
point
of
view?
How
do
we
who
could
be
on
this
this
land?
D
What
businesses
do
we
want
to
be
incorporating
on
this
land,
and
so
I've
been
very
fortunate
to
be
included
in
all
those
conversations
and
supporting
what
those
potentials
could
look
like
in
terms
of
that
rural
real
estate,
that
rural
opportunity
for
business
exploring
real
healthcare?
Oh
my
gosh!
So
when
I
first
started,
I
was
lucky
again
because
of
my
past
role
and
who
I
am,
I
was
lucky
that
I
have
have
a
great
relationship
with
queen's
university.
D
So,
coincidentally,
one
of
my
neighbors
is
part
of
the
queen's
university
innovation
group
and
I
was
invited
they
have
as
part
of
ddqsc.
So,
oh
my
gosh,
I
don't
even
ask
me
sorry,
I
apologize,
I
want
to
say
it,
but
I'm
going
to
say
it
wrong,
so
it's
ddqsc
at
the
queen's
university
and
they
invited
me
to
actually
moderate
some
panels,
multiple
panels
on
rural
health
and
what
does
rural
health
look
like?
Where
are
the
gaps?
D
Where
are
the
opportunities
what's
happening
in
our
rural
communities
and
so
frontend
county
and
us
were
included
in
these
conversations,
and
I
moderated
the
panels.
We
had
physicians
on
board,
we
had
community
health
centers
on
board
and
we
were
talking.
We
had
also
people
from
kingston
health
science
center
and
we
had
multiple
conversations
about
where
the
gaps
enroll
what's
happening.
Is
it
transportation?
D
You
know,
is
it
we
don't
have
those
care
centers
in
world
that
we
need?
Why
are
we
missing
people?
How
do
we
find
get
those
people
care
that
they
need,
and
so
I'm
working
closely
with
queen's
university
and
the
ddqic
on
developing
opportunities
to
support
rural
health
and
to
support
rural
communities
in
rural
health?
D
So
we
have
had
some
discussions
with
some
of
the
medical
facilities
in
the
area
and
the
queen's
students
are
putting
together
some
really
great
information
to
help
support
next
steps,
so
we're
just
in
the
midst
of
you,
know
doing
those
moderator
panels
finding
out
what
those
gaps
are
and
then
queens
is
working
on.
What
are
those
gaps?
Look
like
how
do
we
look
at
some
some
opportunities
and
we're
helping
make
that
that
project
move
forward
so
still
very
involved,
and
just
in
the
midst
of
making
that
happen
next
slide.
Please.
D
D
So
that
was
a
really
great
project
so
far
and
we're
working
really
hands-on.
Slc
st
lawrence
college
is
supporting
us
in
the
trades
piece,
late
fall
early
winter
and
we're
hoping
to
have
25
to
30
trained
participants
that
will
be
available
to
our
farming
community
starting
january.
We're
really
excited
that
we'll
we
have
trained
people
to
have
all
of
those
skills
necessary
to
be
working
at
a
farm
level
so
that
our
farmers
can
have
some
staff.
D
I
know
staffing
just
from
my
previous
role
as
well
and
then
working
with
the
firms
in
the
region
in
the
past
eight
months,
staffing
in
the
agricultural
world
is,
is
very
difficult.
It's
not
a,
and
I
used
to
have
farmers
that
I've
worked
for
years,
say
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
defined
as
a
fun
job.
It's
a
passion
right.
D
So
as
a
farmer
and
and
as
a
you
know,
somebody
that's
in
the
agricultural
industry,
you
have
a
passion
for
it
and
so
to
talk
about
having
staff,
whether
it's
high
school
or
college,
or
you
know,
people
in
your
community.
You
know
how
do
we
attract
staff
to
work
at
our
firms
was
sometimes
not
necessarily
the
best
jobs.
I
was
talking
to
a
farmer
the
other
the
other
day
that
I
worked
with
in
the
past
and
oh,
my
gosh,
like
the
heat
in
the
past
two
months,
the
past
two
weeks
has
been
horrendous
right.
D
So
how
do
we
help
support
our
farming
community,
our
agricultural
community,
in
finding
the
staff
they
need
and
making
it
an
attractive
option
right
for
people
looking
for
jobs,
so
working
on
that?
The
other
piece
is
so
I
have
a
really
great
connection
with
the
roma
group:
rural
ontario
municipality
association,
really
great
relationship
with
their
their
counsel.
D
Their
board
excuse
me
and
their
chair
of
the
board
and
a
consultant
that's
working
closely
with
them,
and
so
I
speak
regularly
with
the
consultant
and
and
the
board
about
how
do
we
align
with
the
roma
goals
and
and
how
do
we
make
because
their
goals
are
very
similar
in
terms
of
that
rural
investment
opportunities
and
rural
development?
And
so
I'm
working
closely
with
them
and
talking
closely
with
them
about
what
that
looks
like
and
and
how
we
can
align,
not
duplicate.
D
How
do
we
align
with
them
on
strategies
and
ways
that
we
can
support
rural
development
delicately
strategically
again,
not
pushing
the
city
of
kingston
out
but
supporting
rural
communities
to
be
more
sustainable
and
more
effective
within
themselves,
and
and
not
relying
on
those,
the
larger
city
partners
and
then
the
other
piece,
I'm
really
lucky?
Actually
so
the
queen's
mba
program,
I'm
working
closely
with
the
head
of
the
department
and
they're,
offering
us
a
student
starting
late
september
to
help
look
at
that
rural
development
piece
and
and
new
servicing
options
and
different
servicing
options.
D
Prana
county
is
doing
a
great
job
right
now,
looking
at
a
new
servicing
option
in
shrubbet
lake-
and
I
think
maybe
some
of
you
are
aware
of
this-
I've
been
kind
of
following
it
and
working
you
know
alongside
them.
It's
their
project
but
they're,
doing
a
project
in
sherwood
lake
to
see
about
you
know:
new
alternative
servicing
options
to
service
buildings
and
their
communities
in
france
county.
So
I'm
really
lucky.
We
have
an
mba
student.
D
I'll
give
you
a
you
know
a
great
example
and
not
again
not
looking
to
push
out
and
make
cities,
but
I
was
so.
I
grew
up
in
the
west
end
of
ottawa
many
years
ago,
and
my
parents
decided
that
we
needed
to
move
to
bar
haven
bar
haven
40
years
ago
was
farms
and
farm
field,
and
we
had
the
green
belt.
So
ottawa
was
separated
by
a
green
belt,
and
then
there
was
rural
pride.
That's
all
that
was
his
rural,
so
manatee
was
rural.
D
D
D
So
there
you
know,
there's
so
many
examples
milton
is
another
amazing
again
not
wanting
to
be
a
milton,
but
what
what
did
it
take
to
start
pushing
out
some
opportunities
for
hamlets
and
rural
development
from
us
from
a
city
center,
and
so
we
have
an
mba
student
that
is
going
to
be
starting
with
us
in
october
to
help
kind
of
look
at
what
those
options.
What
happened
like?
How
do
we
look
at
options?
What
are
servicing
options?
How
do
we
handle
hydro
water
sewer?
All
of
that
stuff
next
slide.
Please.
D
So
I
have
touched
upon
partnerships,
collaboration,
community,
outreach,
engagement,
logistics,
internal
mechanics,
those
are
the
longer
term
projects,
so
that's
that
24
months,
piece
still
working
on
that
working
on
research.
For
that
the
other
two
pieces
on
the
bottom
partnerships
community
outreach-
those
have
happened
already
and
still
continuing
to
make
that
happen
next
slide.
Please.
D
Short-Term
next
steps
on
the
real
strategy
12
to
24
months,
recommended,
ideally,
three
resources
be
allocated
so
one
resource
for
agriculture,
one
resource
for
world
tourism,
one
resource
for
cluster
development.
So
what's
the
result
of
that,
since
I've
been
doing
this
for
eight
months,
so
we
have
a
new
business
development
analyst.
We
just
hired
him
two
and
a
half
weeks
ago.
His
name
is
mark
nerdy.
D
D
So
we
actually
have
myself
and
mark
nerdy
designated
to
help
support
business
development
not
only
in
the
city
of
kingston,
but
also
in
rural
kingston
as
well,
and
that's
a
big
piece
so
continue:
partnership
nfu
national
farmers
union-
oh
my
gosh,
they
have
been
far
and
beyond
as
also
the
ofa.
My
ontario
farmers
association
have
been
unbelievably
supportive
in
this
new
role
and
I've
known
them
for
years
and
just
really
incredible
in
terms
of
pushing
out.
D
You
know
news
stories
and
information
through
their
their
email
blasts
and
their
newsletters,
and
I
just
can't
tell
you
enough
how
both
those
two
organizations
have
been
phenomenal
in
terms
of
supporting
this
role,
tourism,
kingston
and
golden
five.
So
tourism
kingston
has
been
an
absolute
supporter
always
with
us,
but
now
that
there's
a
designated
rural
person
in
the
role
they
have
actually
been
very
focused
in
helping
us
support.
D
Rural
kingston
and
rural
kingston
initiatives
from
a
tourism
standpoint,
and
then
golden
five
has
been
phenomenal
in
terms
of
supporting
with
this
new
event,
and
I'm
really
hoping
actually
golden
five
can
help
us
with
the
revitalization
of
market
square
as
well.
Queens
projects
like
I
talked
to
you
about
working
on
multiple
projects
with
queens
south
frontak
in
the
planning
department
for
cluster
development,
so
south
frontic
and
ourselves
have
been
working
closely
together
about
a
partnership
on
planning
and
what
does
that
look
like
so
transportation
and
housing,
development
and
business
development?
D
But
that
process
in
terms
of
bigger
development
will
happen.
Late
fall
early
winter
of
this
year
next
time,
please
again.
Next
steps
12
to
24
months,
so
developing
a
benchmark
for
current
performance,
fine-tuning
metrics
the
one
two
year
each
year,
so
we
have
a
program
called
cascade.
It's
an
internal
management
program
that
actually
stems
from
our
cio
lanny
and
then
goes
down
to
all
of
the
commissioners
and
then
the
directors
up
until
recently,
it's
only
been
commissioners
and
directors
that
have
been
part
of
the
cascade
program.
D
D
Again,
okay,
so
12
to
24
months.
I
remember
I'm
just
gonna
stop
for
one
sec.
Sorry
I
remember
when
I
was
interviewing
and
I
knew
craig
desjardins
very
well-
I've
known
her
for
years
and
I'm
in
the
interview
and
they
had
given
me
the
job
description
of
this
role
and
I
had
many
years
of
experience.
Business
development,
business
ownership
have
been
doing
it
forever
and-
and
I
said
you
realize
that
you're
the
ask.
C
D
Like
it's
huge
and
they're
saying
yes,
it
is
and
we'll
help
you
find
the
team
and
get
you
the
partners,
and-
and
so
I
was
really
excited
about
this-
like
it's
it's
oh,
my
gosh,
like
the
city.
Kingston
has
never
done
anything
like
this
before
and
I
feel
so
privileged
that
I
can
be.
You
know,
on
the
ground
running
making
these
changes
happen
and
building
these
relationships
and
and
aligning
our
departments
to
be.
D
You
know
all
of
our
departments
have
a
little
bit
of
rural
in
them
all
like
arts
and
culture
and
climate
change,
and
all
of
them
have
little
bits
of
rural
in
them
planning
real
estate,
but
nobody's
ever
connected
all
of
that
rural
in
one
spot
they
they've
never
said.
Okay,
maybe
we
should
all
kind
of
align
together
instead
of
you
doing
this
piece
on
a
roll,
and
you
doing
this
because
I
mean
look
at
all
the
years
in
the
past
few
years.
I
was
part
of
that
december
meeting.
D
Every
meeting
you
would
have
a
department
present
to
you,
a
piece
of
something
that
was
happening
with
regards
to
rural
and
that's
great,
but
oh,
my
gosh
like
now.
We
have
our
department.
That
can
say
okay,
so
now,
how
do
we
align
all
of
this
amazing
stuff?
That's
happening
with
rural
and
build
it
together
to
make
it
one
bigger
picture,
and
so
I
feel
so
so
fortunate
that
I
get
to
be
that
person
and
build
that
department
to
make
all
of
that
happen
right.
D
So
all
of
those
presentations
that
you
would
have
from
other
departments,
I
get
to
work
with
those
departments
now
and
say:
okay,
how
do
we
align
this?
Like
you
talked
about
this,
you
work
with
this
like.
How
do
we
work
together
to
make
this
you
know
stronger
and
bigger
and
and
and
more
streamlined?
I
think
that's
the
biggest
piece
right
like
really
more
focused
and
more
streamlined,
so
very
grateful
for
that
kingston
economic
development.
I
talk
to
them
regularly.
D
All
of
that
that
information
and
all
of
those
projects
and
opportunities
they
just
didn't
right,
like
so
culture
and
heritage
and
again
climate
and
real
estate
and
planning,
wouldn't
think,
oh,
my
gosh.
Well,
we
need
to
get
tourism
kingston
involved
because
there's
some
of
the
stuff,
that's
like
it's
just
a
new
way
of
having
that
relationship
and
they've
been
phenomenally
supportive
about
that
collaboration,
and
then
the
other
piece
was
so
supporting
organization
to
mobilize
rural
kingston
plan.
D
We
are
working
very
closely
with
everybody
and
and
even
more
so
now
that
I
have
we're
developing
this
business
support
office
and
really
I'm
you
know
creating
this
opportunity
for
us
to
be
supporting
businesses
in
all
matters
partners
in
all
matters
and
then
really
getting
to
touch.
Will
kingston,
who
haven't
been
directly
supported
in
I
I
don't
think
like
I
just
and,
and
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you.
One
of
the
questions
that
I
do
want
to
ask
you
after
we
have
some
discussion
is
being
getting
some
support
and
understanding
about.
D
How
do
I
get
out
to
those
rural
communities
in
terms
of
the
businesses
and
the
and
the
firms
as
well?
Kovit
has
been
a
real
challenge
with
that,
and
just
looking
for
your
direction
on
that
piece
as
well,
it's
been
difficult
with
colvin
and
being
respectful
of
people's
privacy
and
understanding
that
we're
still
a
little
afraid
so
wanting
to
have
a
quick
discussion
with
you
on
that
next
slide.
Please.
D
Okay,
so
continuing
so
continuing
community
stakeholder
engagement,
I
have
met
with
existing
farms,
so
frontend
county
and
ourselves
met
with
farmers
in
the
early
of
the
year
february
march
and
talked
about
what
is
it
that
they're
looking
for
what
do
they
need?
What
are
their
goals
and
so
putting
that
together
and
then
pushing
that
out
on
my
end
as
well
again,
working
with
local
developers
already
talked
about
this
helping
hamlet
development,
identifying
gaps
for
planning
approvals,
so
the
other
piece
identifying
gaps
for
planning
and
approvals
requirement
to
streamline
processes.
D
Oh
my
gosh,
so
we
have
a
new
business
support
department,
I'm
managing
that
business
support
department
with
mark
nerdy.
We
have
businesses
that
call
us
and
go
so
I
have
a
piece
of
property
and
I'm
thinking
of
developing
it
for
a
business
world
wherever
but
typically
rural.
I
don't
so.
Who
do
I
call
and
trying
to
navigate
through
the
city
of
kingston
departments?
To
understand
who
do
I
have
to
talk
to
do
I
need
this?
Do
I
need
that?
Do
I
have
to
talk
to
public
health?
Do
I
have
to
go?
D
I
need
employees
who
do
I
talked
about
employees.
I
need
coaching
or
grants.
Do
I
talk
to
kingston
equine
development,
so
we
now
have
a
business
support
department
that
we're
that's.
Our
whole
goal
is
really
streamlining
and
identifying
what
their
goals
are
and
helping
them
really
get
the
information
they
need
quickly
instead
of
trying
to
navigate
through
those
systems.
So
that's
a
a
really
big
one
as
well
and
then
yeah,
I
mean
anyways
next
slide.
I'm
I'm
getting
tired!
Sorry,
my
apologies!
D
D
D
D
D
So
wanting
to
you
know
talk
about,
I
think,
there's
some
opportunity
that
we
could
maybe
buy
some
land
build
a
small
park
and
then
have
it
as
a
boat
launch
opportunity
to
one
of
the
lakes
in
rural
kingston
again
something
to
talk
about
they.
They
are
looking
for
our
ideas
before
the
end
of
the
year
on
what
that
money
could
be
designated
to
and
then
just
looking
for
your
ideas.
After
all
of
this
conversation,
oh
my
gosh,
thank
you.
B
Wow,
thank
you.
Tracy
you've
been
one
busy,
lady
and
yeah.
I
mean
you've
you're.
Obviously
your
past
experience
and
networking
is
it's
just
a
wealth
of
of
of
experience
and
networking
and
relationships
so
you're.
Well,
on
your
way.
You've
got
a
lot
of
things
already
accomplished
things
like
date.
Set:
it's
not
just
talk,
so
it's
really
exciting
and
I'm
sure
the
committee
has
a
lot
of
questions.
So
the
floor
is
now
open
and
put
your
hand
up,
or
else
just
identify
questions.
John
warren
on
go
hi,
john.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
tracy.
Thanks
a
lot
for
that
presentation
got
me
all
excited
and
gave
me
lots
of
ideas.
Now.
As
you
know,
I
can
be
a
little
bit
brusque
in
my
presentation
and
I
pepper
myself
with
some
army
sayings,
but
I
limit
myself
to
the
the
mostly
polite
ones,
so
I'll
start
kind
of
in
reverse
order.
Thanks
a
lot
for
identifying
that
issue
of
what
I
call
strategic
incoherence,
it
drove
me
not.
E
E
It
drove
me
nuts
when
I
was
in
afghanistan
and
I've
said
it
in
this
forum.
It
is,
it
is
bizarre
to
me
how
often
I
see
these
different
pieces
of
what
I
consider
operational
aspects
that
are,
basically,
you
know
trying
to
come
together
in
the
void
and
I
would
say
for
the
record,
with
all
respect
to
our
counselors,
that
the
issue
is
that
it's
a
lot
of
city
staff
and
employees
who
are
trying
to
to
identify
this
because
we're
not
getting
it
from
council
to
my
knowledge.
E
But
we
need
something
to
filter
down
from
on
high
which,
in
my
mind,
is
council
to
give
guidance
to
you,
the
employees
and
staff
and
contractors
to
to
shape
what
this
strategy
for
kingston
is
and
what
the
strategy
is
for:
density
by
design
and
active
transportation
and
tree
planting
and
rural
development
and
business
development,
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
Now
to
get
down
to
brass
tax.
I've
got
a
few
specific
questions
about
the
first
bullet
point
you're
talking
about
agricultural
development
stuff,
that's
that's
my
daily
look!
So
I'll
try
to
focus
on
it.
E
D
E
I
think
everybody
knows
that
the
question
is:
how
do
we
make
that
money?
Can
the
city
of
kingston
start
having
a
budget
line
item
that
says
business
implementation,
support,
infrastructure
development?
Can
our
city
council
say
we
are
allocating
5
million
bucks
and
somebody
can
get
it
as
an
interest,
free
loan
or
even
a
grant,
and
it's
there
we've
voted
on
every
year.
It's
like
the
pittsburgh
community
benefit
benefit
fund
and
some
wiley
businessmen
out
there
could
make
a
contract.
I
love
a
good
contract
and
get
that
public
money
for
their
private
interests.
E
Because
a
farmer
like
me,
you
can't
just
take
a
sheep
out
of
the
field
and
eat
it.
You
have
to
be
crass,
you
have
to
kill
it
and
chop
it
up,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
out
there
don't
like
that,
but
that's
the
reality,
especially
on
our
poorly
and
livestock
farming,
is
one
of
the
best
ways
to
make
food
out
here.
E
On
that
note,
for
this
october,
2nd
market
square
event
is
there
any
so
it
sounds
to
me
like
it's
a
bit
of
a
farmer's
market
sort
of
idea,
a
bit
of
a
special
event
that
includes
the
food
sales
farmer's
market
stands
and
menu
planning
from
this
from
this
third-party
contractor.
Do
you
kind
of
have
that
right.
D
D
The
third
piece
is
showcasing
our
local
farms
at
the
farmer's
market,
not
necessarily
selling
again
it's
about
education,
so
this
is
not
selling
making
money
like
this
is
about
education,
collaboration
and
farmers
working
together.
So
when
I
say
set
up
like
a
farmer's
market,
I
don't
mean
I
want
farmers
to
set
up
and
sell
their
wares.
I
want
farmers
to
be
there
and
talk
about
what
they
do
to
me.
It's
about
education,
it's
not
about
making
a
farmer's
market
than
having
food
and
chefs
on
the
side.
It's
about
celebration
of
food.
D
It's
about
having
farmers
talk
it's
about
having
our
community.
Finally,
from
the
agricultural
standpoint
talk
to
our
community,
our
residents
in
kingston,
about
what
they
do
and
why
it's
important
have
chefs
making
the
food
from
our
local
farms
with
local
food,
but
then
the
market
portion,
it's
really
so
two
pieces
on
the
farmer's
market
piece,
a
not
all
the
firms
can
support
the
chefs
with
their
food
again
timing.
I
wasn't
able
to
talk
to
anybody
early
spring
and
planting,
so
I
couldn't
give
heads
up
and
say:
hey
we're
having
this
event
october,
2nd.
D
You
know:
can
you
plant
extra
this
and
plant
this
and
plant
that
and
we're
looking
at
doing
this?
It
was
later
in
the
game,
so
we're
looking
at
the
farmers
now
who
can't
sell,
who
can't
produce
supply?
Excuse
me
supply
food
to
the
chefs,
showcasing
what
they
do
again,
not
necessarily
selling
it
but
showcasing
what
they
do
talking
about
what
they
do,
the
other
piece.
So
that's
really
important
is
it's
a
segue?
D
I
believe
it's
a
segue
for
them
when
I'm
working
on
the
planning
of
revitalization
of
market
square
to
say,
okay,
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
be
doing
at
market
square
and
at
the
city
of
kingston
to
really
launch
local
food.
You
know
local
produce
what
our
farmers
do.
Food
security.
All
of
that!
That's
that's
it!
It's
not
it's
not
farmers
market,
and
then
everything
goes
out
of
that.
It's!
The
reverse.
Farmers
market
is
the
the
add-on
in
terms
of
information,
education.
E
Okay,
so
because
here's
what
I'm
thinking-
and
this
is
a
bit
of
a
pukini
interest-
therefore
I
disclose
it
and
I
leave
it
to
another
party
to
see
if
it
actually
is
a
conflict
of
interest.
So
I'm
getting
my
turkeys
butchered
september,
30th
they're,
fresh
they're,
coming
from
berube
poultry
near
kemptville,
I
have
coordinated
hypothetically
with
one
of
the
chef
event
they've
taken
ten
of
my
turkeys,
they're
preparing
them,
people
are
watching
them
get
prepared
and
the
food
goes
off
elsewhere.
E
E
D
D
There
ever
been
anything
has
there
ever
been
anything
in
the
city
of
kingston
that
talks
to
what
our
local
farms
do
and
our
local
agriculture
and
this,
and
how
we
have
this
incredible
vast
amount
of
of
food
and
farming
and
local
opportunities
in
our
region.
I
that's
what
I'm
celebrating
like.
That's
how
I
see
it
being
celebrated.
D
I
see
it
being
celebrated
as
hey
look
at
what
we
do
nobody's
ever
talked
about
this
before
and
we're
celebrating
it
now,
and
this
is
harvest
season.
I
know
it's
the
hardest
season
and
I
apologize,
but
it
had
to
coincide
with
food
being
harvested
and
then
chefs
also
producing
the
food.
So
I
see
this
as
an
absolute
education
piece
then,
in
addition
to
that,
so
not
only
just
looking
at
this
in
terms
of
next
steps
and
that
push
out
in
terms
of
the
new
farmers
market.
D
The
other
piece,
though,
is
so
we're
educating
our
local
community
at
this
event
and
then
in
first
week
of
november,
we're
having
a
whole
day
training
session
on
what
it's
like
to
make
local
food.
So
it's
a
continuation
of
opportunity
to
celebrate
who
we
are
as
agriculture
and
rural
people,
that
in
kingston
that's
never
happened
before
that's
the
goal.
E
B
B
B
B
B
D
Yes,
absolutely
so,
and
I
was
hoping
actually
at
our
last
meeting,
which
unfortunately,
we
didn't
have
quorum
ad-
that
I
was
going
to
talk
more
to
that
in
terms
of
the
applicants.
So
right
now
we
have
25
applicants.
Our
goal
is
30..
We
have-
and
I
know
this
is
really
tight
and
I
do
apologize.
It
was
going
to
be
introduced.
The
last
meeting
we
do
have
about
a
two
week
window
where
we
can
bring
in
five
other
applicants.
So
we
have
a
30
applicant
window,
but
we
have
two
weeks.
D
D
D
D
We
have
five
spots
left
that
we
would
absolutely
love
anybody
that
you
think
that
would
qualify
for
on-farm
training
four
hours
a
week,
one
day
a
week
until
at
least
the
beginning
of
november,
in
school
training,
four
slc
six
hours
a
week
till
the
end
of
december
and
then
hopefully
jobs.
You
can
pass
them
on
to
me
and
I'll
be
very
happy
to
pass
it
on
to
our
manager,
our
operating
manager
with
loving
spoonful.
B
F
I
don't
do
this
very
often
I'm
in
my
vehicle.
So
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
me
to
this
whole
committee.
It's
really
good
to
be
here
and
really
great
to
hear
tracy
and
the
incredible
amount
of
work
being
done,
and
I
do
see
there's
a
lot
going
on
tracy
and
we
obviously
want
to
be,
as
a
committee
aware
and
be
supportive
and
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
dots
to
connect
here
and
so
we're
not
gonna.
F
Do
it
all
right
away,
but
we
want
to
continue
to
hear
from
you
and
continue
to
find
all
the
alignment
that
we
can
and
from
from
all
the
the
circles
that
we
we
bring
into
this.
So
I'm
going
to
need
to
hear
it
more
too,
and
I
want
to
certainly
as
counselor
I
I
have
a
lot
to
learn
tracy
from
you
too,
and
all
the
all
the
things
that
are
going
on
and
I
I
want.
F
I
want
this
committee
to
know
and
that
tracy
to
know
that
everything
that
you're
talking
about
is
resonates
as
so
critical
and
important
in
in
one
of
the
council's
goals
of
you
know:
food
sustainability
and
and
the
just
a
critical
role
that
the
rural
area
plays,
and
even
this
committee.
So
one
of
the
again
I
I
have
so
many
things
in
my
head
as
I
listen
to
you,
but
I
I
want
to
let
it
carry
on
and
have
a
life
carry
on
with
the
life,
that
of
it
that
it
has.
F
F
Just
hearing
john
speak,
madam
chair,
I
I
just
think
that
you
know
the
impact
and
I
don't
wanna.
I
don't
wanna
create
stories.
I
never
would
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
create
uncertainty
or
fears
and
all
that,
but
I
do
believe
that
I
am
hearing
through
the
farming
community
that
that
this
is
a
concern.
What
the
federal
government
is
proposing
and
we
ought
to
examine
it
for
a
meeting,
maybe
call
a
special
meeting.
F
But
if
we
could
make
a
motion
to
counsel
that
I'm
hoping
would
be
passed,
that
would
address
that
and
be
a
strong
voice.
And
so
could
we
discuss
that
possibility
and
also
hearing
from
tracy
a
little
bit
of
what
she's
hearing
and
are
we
are
we
being
too
alarmist
right
now?
Is
this
something
that
is
being
recognized
by
our
universities,
agriculture
and
all
that
and
so
where's
where's
the
direction
that
we
need
to
how
to
handle
this,
and
can
we
make
a
positive
difference.
F
B
I
hear
a
question
in
there
and
I'm
looking
to
the
rest
of
the
the
the
committee
members
tracy.
I'm
gonna
give
you
the
opportunity
to
answer
that
question.
If
you
can,
or
perhaps
what
gary's
bringing
up
now
counselors
is
something
that
we
need
to
perhaps
touch
on
other
business
further
down
the
agenda.
If
we're
talking
about.
F
D
Yeah
and
and
thank
you
counselors
for
that
comment,
I
would,
I
would
recommend,
actually
us
having
a
separate
meeting
just
to
have
a
discussion
about
this
first
and
see
what
that
looks
like
and
what
we
could
be
proposing
in
terms
of
the
motion.
That
would
be
my
thought,
but
I'll
leave
that
up
to
a
to
you,
a
chair
and
to
the
rest
of
the
committee
to
decide,
but
I
think
we
have
to
have
a
separate
discussion
about
what
that
looks
like
and
what
you're
thinking
like.
What
are
you?
What's
your
ask,
and
what?
D
F
Yeah
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there's
this
other
cloud
on
the
horizon,
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
speak
to.
Thank
you,
tracy,
and
I
am
all
for
a
separate
meeting
and
on
the
call
of
the
chair,
and
I
I
actually
think
it
should
be,
but
I
don't
want
to
undermine
the
incredible
work
and
and
the
movement
forward
that
we're
going
to
conduct
and
that
is
being
happening.
F
Okay,
I
celebrate
that
and
I'm
going
to
be
there
with
you
and
I
want
to
connect
with
you
so,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
that's
something
we
have
to
recognize
risks
and
new
risk
management
right,
so
I
am
happy
to
leave
it
there,
but
wanting
to
pick
that
up
at
the
right
time,
so
that
our
voice
will
be
heard.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
H
H
We
don't
want
to
spend
any
more
money
on
fertilizer
than
we
have
to,
because
it
is
so
expensive,
we're
already
well
within
the
realm
of
what
the
federal
government
is
asking
for.
They
have
no
way
of
policing
it
at
any
point,
because
when
we
look
back
at
the
herbicide
the
way
that
we're
going
to
control
that
starting
20
years
ago,
they
never
policed
it
at
all
it.
Although
the
the
big
companies,
rather
than
cutting
back
the
amount
of
chemicals
we
were
going
to
use,
they
just
concentrated
a
little
heavier,
nothing
changed
a
bit.
H
F
H
B
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
think
my
contribution
tonight
is
a
bit
more
of
a
commentary
than
a
question.
Well,
it
you'll
see
how
it's
being
framed,
but
thank
you
tracy
for
your
presentation.
It
was
very
eloquent,
very
wholesome,
and
I
really
really
appreciated
all
of
the
attention
to
the
rural
economic
development
and
some
light
on
on
what
is
happening.
So
I
think
my
question
or
worry
is
about
the
scale
and
scope
of
rural
development.
So
what
what
do
we
mean
by
development?
A
Of
the
rural
environment,
when
we
bring
development
to
a
rural
environment,
it
becomes
an
urban
center
in
an
urban
environment.
So
how
do
we
intend
to
preserve
the
ruralness
and
the
royal
culture,
the
rural
sentiment
and
as
we
bring
tourist
activities
in
the
rural
environment?
It's
also
a
question
of
you
know:
how
is
the
local
population
accepting
these
events
is
bring
more
traffic
more
right,
it's
all-encompassing
as
to
the
livelihood
and
what
brings
individuals
to
live
in
the
rural
environment
and
that
changes
completely
the
feeling
of
being
rural.
A
A
D
Yeah
very
good
question,
and
I
I
was
trying
to
reiterate
as
much
as
I
could
when
I
was
talking
about
development.
This
is
not
about
pushing
kingston
out
when
I
talked
about
bar
haven
and
milton
this
is
not
about
making
rural
kingston
barham
or
milton
absolutely.
This
is
not
we're
just
looking
for
examples
of
how,
because
the
province
has
such
strict
mandates
on
what
development
looks
like
right.
D
So
if
we
have
a
hamlet
in
rural
kingston,
for
example,
and
we
want
to
add
10
houses
on
a
side
street,
it's
not
going
to
happen
province
won't
allow
that
to
happen
right
because
there's
no
servicing
the
infrastructure's
not
in
place,
there's
there's
rules
and
regulations
and
we're
not
we're
not
looking
at
pushing
out
the
city.
That
is
not
at
all
the
goal,
and
this
is
where
this
is.
Why
I'm
saying
it's
a
longer
term
project,
so
I
have
some
immediate
things
that
I'm
working
on
this
year.
D
There
needs
to
be
some
research
research
still
done
on
what
that
development
looks
like
with.
There
needs
to
be
some
understanding
of
what
the
community
wants
in
terms
of
development.
We
have
not
done
a
community
outreach
in
terms
of
what
that
development
looks
like.
We
have
not
reached
out
to
our
hamlets
and
our
communities
and
said:
what
do
you
want?
What
do
you
need
to
wear
businesses?
What
are
you
looking
for?
What
are
the
gaps?
What
are
the
opportunities?
D
D
What
do
I
know
right
and
I'm
being
respectful-
and
I
I
I
think
I
my
experience,
knows
a
lot,
but
I
can't
get
to
those
people
and
and
go
down
their
driveway
or
knock
on
their
door
and
say
hi,
I'm
tracy
like
I
really
want
to
meet
you
and
have
a
conversation,
because
it's
cold
then
do
I
wear
a
mask.
Do
I
be
respectful,
wear
a
mask:
do
it?
Do
they
feel
comfortable
meeting
a
stranger?
It's
a
very
tough
situation.
D
D
D
Like
you
know,
I
lived
in
tamworth
for
eight
years
and
one
of
the
my
parents
lived
in
prince
edward
county
and
you
know
they
used
to
tease
me
and
say
what
oh,
my
gosh,
like
your
town,
has
a
gas
station
and
has
this
and
a
hardware
sword,
and
I
used
to
tease
my
friends
from
kingston
and
ottawa
and
say
you
know
I
could
stay
in
tamworth
and
if
I
was
sick
or
decided
I
didn't.
I
could
I'd
every
service
that
I
needed
in
tamworth
and
tamworth
has
a
population
of.
H
D
500
people
400
people
like
it's
small,
it's
tiny
right!
That's
what
I'm
talking
about
right!
So
I'm
I
we
envision
from
the
real
strategy
from
the
city
perspective.
How
do
we
support
our
existing
hamlets
and
our
existing
communities
to
make
them
more
successful
to
make
the
people
that
live
in
those
communities
more
successful,
again,
not
pushing
out
when
there's
talk
about
you
know
industrial
development
or
business
development
or
land
development?
We're
talking
mcadoo
lane.
D
You
know
east
end
like
it's.
It's
all
around
the
city
of
kingston
at
this,
like
at
least
in
my
lifetime,
like
where
my
work
time
right.
So
please
know
that
this
is
about
community
engagement.
We
haven't
done
that.
Yet
we
have
a
strategy
in
place.
That's
looking
for
this,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
lot
of
other
research
done
before
that
even
happens,
and
there
will
be
many
conversations
before
anything
happens
with
all
of
you.
I
promise
yes,
so
I
hope
I
answered
your
question.
H
I
have
a
list
here,
that's
very
long
and
the
more
or
less
questions
or
wonder
if
you
are
aware
so
probably
98
99
of
the
product,
that's
produced
in
the
city
of
kingston
by
farmers
goes
out
of
this
area
and
you're
fully
aware
of
that
yeah.
And
so
I'm
kind
of
concerned
that
the
people
that
you
are
getting
in
touch
with
are
very
small
food
producers
and
not
necessarily
the
people
that
are
managing
the
biggest
plots
of
land.
H
D
Can
I
can
I
make
a
comment,
charles
before
your
next
comment,
yep,
so
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
really
hoping
to
talk
to
you
as
a
committee
about
as
well.
So
I
have
a
a
pool
of
businesses
and
firms
that
I'm
aware
of
that
I've
done
as
much
reach
out
as
I
possibly
can
understanding
we're
still
uncovered.
D
I
have
included
all
of
the
committee.
I
have
included
probably
30
plus
other
farms
that
I'm
aware
of
that
are
engaged
with
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
to
help
press
and
spread
the
word
and
talk
about
what
we're
doing
farmers
meetings.
So
we
had
farmers
meetings
in
february
march.
I
included
all
of
the
committee
in
all
of
those
meetings
to
let
you
all
know.
D
Please
spread
the
word,
we're
having
farm
meetings
with
farmers
to
talk
about
big
farms,
little
farms,
all
everything,
agriculture,
I'm
I'm
stuck
at,
not
knowing
how
else
to
push
it
out.
So
I
have
the
committee
that
I'm
pushing
it
out
with.
I
have
about
30
to
40
other
firms.
We
have
other
partners
kind
of
in
the
region,
ofa
nfu
that
are
just
been
wonderful
in
terms
of
pushing
it
out.
I've
even
gone
to
the
spring
fling
at
nfu
that
patchworker,
like
I'm
doing
what
I
can
to
get
out
as
much
as
I
can.
D
I
don't
know
how
else
to
engage
those
larger
farmers
like
and
I've
been
working
in
the
agriculture
community
for
14
years,
like
I
have
been
in
business
development
for
14
years
at
the
municipal
level
for
14
years
in
l
a,
and
so
I
appreciate
how
busy
you
are.
As
a
large
farmer,
absolutely
appreciate
that.
I
appreciate
that
it's
really
hard
for
you
to
be
sitting
here
from
6
to
7
30.
You
know
on
a
monday
night
and
talking
to
me
when
you
could
be
doing
other
work
in
your
business
and
and
I'm
grateful
for
that.
D
I
know
how
busy
farmers
are,
because
I've
worked
in
this
industry
for
a
long
time
and
I'm
I'm
challenged
with
coved
and
trying
to
do
that,
push
out
without
literally
driving
down
your
lane
and
introducing
myself
like
and
I'm
happy
if
you're
thinking,
farmers
aren't
going
to
care.
If
I
drive
down
their
lane
and
go
say
hi,
then
I'm
going
to
do
it
like
I
will
do
it.
D
H
So
I
hear
all
that
and
driving
down
the
laneway
you'll
be
welcomed.
Everybody's
played
because
covet
has
never
affected
the
farming
community.
What
what
whatsoever
everybody's
still
been
welcomed
in
everybody's
land
right?
That's
the
only
way
you're
going
to
get
the
word
out,
get
remo
most
of
these
people.
H
Really,
don't
I
mean,
there's
a
reason:
they're
farming.
They
they
like
people,
but
they
also
like
just
working
out
in
the
field
yeah,
so
yeah
you
just
got
to
get
out
there
and
visit
them.
I
tried
to
spread
the
word,
but
it's
unless
somebody
goes
there,
who's
actually
doing
it.
It
really
doesn't
mean
much.
It's
just
like
conversation.
H
So
the
city
already
owns
it,
and
so
it's
something
that
you
might
want
to
look
into.
Okay,
I'm
very
interested
in
the
25
people,
30
people
that
are
going
to
be
available
for
farm
jobs
and
most
of
us
in
the
community
that
have
a
fair
number
of
employees
are
desperate
to
find
people.
I've
had
to
bring
somebody
from
the
ukraine
I
bring
mexican
employees
in.
H
H
C
H
That,
or
even
want
to
be
aware
of
it,
is
it
something
that
they
just
think
it
doesn't
really
include
me.
My
food
goes
to
increment
or
goes
to
cardinal
or
to
hamilton
to
where
else
I
really
don't
care.
As
long
as
the
check
is
in
the
mailbox,
how
do
you
get
those
kind
of
people
to
get
people
to
understand
the
kind
of
food
that
we
produce?
F
F
Oh
good
yeah,
no,
I
guess
no.
I
guess
that's
right,
sorry
about
that,
so
I
guess
tracy,
I'm
wondering
if
that
gives
us
enough
time
to
work
behind
the
scenes
and
come
up
with
a
proposal
for
the
funding
through
the
solar
funding
there
is,
there
is
background
information.
We
we
all
kind
of
know
a
little
bit
more
on
that
and
ryan
councillor
bowman,
and
I
do
have
some
irons
in
the
fire
there
too
and
would
like
to
you
know.
F
That's
probably
you
know
the
funds
are
there's
there
are
as
the
clerk
would
know
and
and
then
our
clerk
and
the
there
are
some
reasons
for
guidelines.
Sorry
of
how
to
do
that
so
anyways.
I
I
if
we
can
have
another
meeting,
is
that
that's
enough
time
tracy
to
come
up
with
some
suggestions
that
we
can
vote
on
as
a
committee,
then
I
can
work
behind
the
scenes
with
you
on
that
and
our
chair.
Thank
you.
D
D
B
B
Okay,
so
are
we
tracy
you,
you
bring
a
holistic
approach
and
you
bring
new
meaning
and
relevance.
I
might
suggest
to
our
role
as
a
rural
advisory
committee,
which
we've
never
had
before
because
to
me
you're
a
staff
person
who
is
100
completely
in
line
in
line
with
the
with
with
the
goals
of
this
committee,
the
purpose
of
this
committee,
and
that
hasn't
happened
before
it
happened
in
december
of
2021,
and
the
city
has
obviously
shown
this
is
important
and
a
priority.
B
B
Can
you
help
this
committee
as
if,
actually
we
come
up
with
a
motion
and
help
us
get
it
to
council?
It's
fine.
We
have
staff-
and
this
is
to
to
to
mr
werner's
point
it's
great-
that
we
have
staff
now
to
help
us
see
some.
Some.
Some
visions
come
to
life,
but
we
it
needs
to.
We
need
to
have
that
buy-in
from
the
council
and
I
think
there's
a
bit
of
a
disconnect.
B
Are
you
that
person?
Can
you
be
that
person
to
help
us
find
out
where
that
motion
went
that
that
I
have
not
heard
if
we've
had
anything
addressed
to
that,
because
that's
key
that
is
so
important
to
accomplishing
a
lot
of
the
things?
What,
in
my
mind
that
you've
been
talking
about
tonight,
it
does
come
down
to
money.
Absolutely
does
come
down
to
money
which
the
rural
residents,
the
rural
farmers
in
kingston,
have
have
been
denied
access
to
because
of
geopolitical
boundaries.
Are
you
going
to
be
that
person?
B
Can
you
be
that
person
who
can
bring
it
to
council
and
say?
Yes:
we've
got
some
meat
on
this
now,
because
that,
in
my
mind,
is
how
things
are
going
to
change
at
for
the
better.
It's
happened
in
south
front
now,
they've
been
very
successful
because
they've
had
access
to
cfdc
money
and
a
lot
of
good
good
farming
projects.
Good
firms
have
gotten
off
the
ground,
never
happened
in
this
municipality.
B
F
D
So
two
things
on
that.
So
first
of
all
and
pritchard
from
front
xcfdc-
and
I
know
each
other
very,
very
well-
we
worked
together
for
12
years
the
day
after
the
december
6th
meeting
that
we
had
as
the
committee
and
I
wasn't.
I
wasn't
on
the
agenda
to
talk.
I
called
ann
pritchard
because
that's
when
the
motion
came
in
right
was
in
december
6
was
it
december
6th
or
the
next
meeting.
D
So
december
6,
I
think
it
was
the
7th
I
think
it
was
my
very
first
meeting.
I
literally
was
like
two
days
into
the
job
I
called
anne
the
next
day
and
pritchard
the
executive
director
from
front
xcfdc,
and
I
said
so.
Where
is
the
path
in
terms
of
you,
your
office
and
the
province
and
the
feds
supporting
rural
kingston,
because
we're
so
closely
aligned
to
south
frontic
and
in
your
territory
and
anna,
and
I
know
each
other
very
well.
D
She
has
had
numerous
calls,
numerous
emails
to
the
federal
government
who
supports
her
and
funds
her
to
help
support
rural
kingston.
I
don't
believe-
and
I
can't
really
get
into
this
and
and
the
clerk's
office.
Please
mute
me
if
I'm
out
my
boundaries,
but
I
do
not
believe
it.
The
motion
never
ever
went
through
because
bronx
cfdc
has
asked
the
federal
government
for
this
to
happen,
and
it's
not
our
the
city
of
kingston
level.
It's
not
we
we
so
yes
so
hold
on.
Yes,
we
can
fight
it.
D
And,
yes,
I
am
the
person
to
say,
let's
go
to
the
federal
government,
let's
go
to
the
province,
let's
go
to
omafra.
Let's
go
to
the
and
talk
about
getting
funding
for
rural
kingston,
absolutely
I'm
that
person
we
have
to
that's
a
bigger
discussion.
I
think,
on
a
holistic
level
to
talk
about
what
are
we
asking?
What
are
we
looking
for?
What
do
we
need
and
then
how
do
we
present
that?
Because
I've
done
this
many
times
in
other
jobs?
D
How
do
we
present
up
to
the
federal
government,
the
province
to
say
we
need
support
just
because
our
population
levels
are
higher
in
the
city
of
kingston.
83
of
our
land
base
is
rural.
So
how
do
we
continue
to
support
our
rural
capacity
with
funding
from
the
province
and
the
feds
cfdc's
and
and
make
that
happen,
and
pritchard
cannot
do
that
by
herself,
so
she
needs
the
support
from
her
regional
partners
to
say
we
need
to
work
on
this
together
to
push
this
to
the
federal
government.
D
To
make
this
happen,
I'm
also
thinking
because
I'm
already
having
conversations
with
omafra
from
the
provincial
level,
we
don't
qualify
for
a
map
for
grants,
which
is
ridiculous,
absolutely
ridiculous,
so
I'm
already
having
those
conversations
with
them
after
on
the
provincial
level.
So
yes,
next
day
after
the
december
7th
meeting,
I
called
in
directly.
Where
is
this
at
what
is
happening?
There's
been
a
motion
in
play
or
a
discussion
of
emotion
and
play.
It
never
went
to
council
because
it
is
at
a
stop
gap
right
now
with
the
cfpc.
D
F
E
C
E
Question
because
the
city
staff
do
not
have
the
discretion
to
stop
committees
from
taking
those
steps,
so
some
city
staff
members
stepped
way
out
of
line
if
they
fudged
the
motion
and
put
it
in
an
office
somewhere,
they
did
not
have
the
discretion.
They
did
not
have
that
administrative
authority.
It
was
from
a
committee
to
council
and
I
would
very
much
like
an
answer
as
to
what.
F
Happened,
I
I
have
to
admit
I
have
to
go
back.
I
want
to
speak
to
that
as
chairing.
If
I'm
chairing
this
right
now,
I
don't
john,
I
and
allison
I'm
confused
of
the
timelines
here.
We're
gonna
have
to
go
back
and
see
when
that
was
because,
if,
if
rural
advisory
did,
I
think
we
passed
that
motion
it
would
have.
I
just
don't
recall:
what's
happened
myself
so
we'd
have
to
go
back
to
the
clerks.
I'd
have
to
re-read
that
motion
and
re-familiarize
myself
with
that.
G
Thank
you
and
through
you,
madam
chair,
just
to
reflect
on
when
this
went
to
council.
So
there
was
the
meeting
in
december
that
happened
for
the
rural
advisory
committee,
where
that
motion
was
passed
by
the
committee,
it
did
appear
before
council
on
january
11th
as
a
full
report
and
from
the
minutes
I
can
see
that
it
was
carried
of
a
vote
of
nine
to
zero,
so
it
was
carried
where
that
has
gone
after
the
fact.
B
G
G
F
Yeah
wow,
that's
really
helpful
elizabeth.
Thank
you
for
for
that
now
I
do
recall
that
so
I
guess
the
question
is,
I
think
the
committee
needs
is
where,
where
has
it
gone
from
here
and
that's
a
legitimate
question,
because
because
I
don't
know
either
so
I
appreciate
that
I
guess
I
guess
the
question
I
want
to
ask
with
with
tracy
now
that
we
have
her
here
is:
do
we
with
that
with
that
supported,
emotion,
unanimously,
supported
motion?
F
Is
there
any
in
your
time
now
between
january
now,
are
we
recognizing?
I
had
thought?
I
had
heard
that
their
barriers
were
being
addressed,
these
barriers
to
this
funding?
I
I
mean
really.
I
think
allison-
and
I
have
been
conversation
with
this
for
for
six
years
now
when
I
first
met
you
allison,
so
I
I
had
thought
that
there
were
was
progress
in
the
last
few
months
and
I
guess
tracy
you're
saying
you.
We
don't
know
where
it's
at
yeah
we're,
there's
there's
no
new
ground
yet.
B
That's
that's
great
then.
At
this
point
I
think
it's
incapable
hands
and
tracy
at
the
next
time
that
we
get
together,
which
I
believe
is
is
september
12th
this.
This
should
definitely
be
part
of
the
of
the
briefing.
I
would
think
I
do
have
a
quick
question.
I
don't
know
if
I
need
to
relinquish
the
trade
chair
I'll,
pass
it
counselors
trough
again.
Sorry.
B
F
B
Perfect.
Thank
you
other
questions
at
this
time.
It's
been
a
great
conversation.
I
know
there's
going
to
be
more
any
other
questions
from
any
of
the
committee
members.
Currently,
okay,
I
don't
believe
we
need
any
there's,
no
indication
that
we
need
to
have
closing
remarks,
but
I
just
want
to
say
a
big
thank
you
tracy
for
for
being
here
finally
get
a
chance
to
to
have
a
good
conversation.
B
I
think
you
need
you
know
you
need
more
support
reaching
out
to
get
events
like
open
farms,
tour,
but
especially
the
open
farms
harvest
celebration
in
october
to
get
more
people
behind
that
that
education
piece
again
we're
not
all
selling
food
there,
but
there's
a
great
opportunity
as
far
as
overall
education
about
how
important
agriculture
agri-food
the
rural
area
is.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
keep
up
the
great
work
and
we'll
look
forward
to
having
you
join
us
in
september.
B
G
B
B
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
echo
charlie's
point
about
the
nitrogen
concerns
to
hopefully
close
off
councillor
roosteroff's
thing.
I
think
that
there
is
a
vocal
minority.
That's
worked
up
about
it,
but
I
agree
with
him
that
I
don't
think
we
need
to
have
a
meeting,
because
most
farmers
are
not
actually
concerned
about
this.
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
we
can
just
tie
a
knot
on
that
and
leave
it.
Let
it
lie.
B
B
D
That's
okay!
I
just
wanted
to
please
and
I
again
clerk's
office
mute
me
if
I'm
inappropriate
here,
but
please
know
everybody
in
this
committee.
I
reach
out
to
me
anytime.
Please,
like
really
important.
You
don't
get
to
see
me
every
four
months.
I
am
here
every
day.
So
that's
a
really
important
piece.
So
please
reach
out
anytime.
B
G
Madam
chair,
if
I
just
might
jump
in
quickly
here
just
based
on
the
timing
of
when
we
were
able
to
get
this
meeting
together,
we
were
going
to
see
if
the
committee
was
agreeable
to
moving
the
september
meeting
to
monday
the
26th
to
allow
for
a
little
bit
more
time
to
prepare
for
the
next
meeting
in
terms
of
materials.
That
would
be
brought
forward
for
the
committee's
consideration,
and
we
were
wondering
if
the
committee
would
be
agreeable
to
this.
B
A
History
of
having
predetermined
dates
was
because
it
was
being
published
on
curveback
signs
and
there
was
some
communication
efforts
to
get
people
to
attend
these
meetings.
So
I'm
not
sure
in
the
past
year
how
the
communications
efforts
have
been
going.
So
I'm
saying
this
completely
out
of
turn
like
I
actually
do
not
know,
but
there
was
a
real
legitimate
reason
for
keeping
meetings
at
a
predetermined
dates,
and
it
was
specifically
for
raising
you
know,
participation
in
the
community
and
allowing
people
to
follow
us
more
in
a
better
way.
B
Thanks
kindly
for
eliminating
that
jose,
that's
an
excellent!
That's
an
excellent
point!
That's
an
excellent
point
and
considering
there's
a
lot
of
things
happening
through
the
actions
of
our
rural
economic
development
manager.
I
mean
if
it's,
if
it's
doable,
it's
nice,
to
keep
the
consistent
meeting
dates,
which
means
september
12th,
and
I
know
we've
had
to
move
a
lot
and
we
haven't
had
quorum.
But
I'd
really
like
to
get
back
on
the
horse
so
to
speak
with
this
committee
and
get
back
on
on
our
regular,
predetermined
dates.
Does
that
seem?
G
B
Thank
you
kindly.
Thank
you
kindly
so.
The
next
meeting
of
the
rule
advisory
committee
is
scheduled
for
monday
september,
12th
monday
night
at
6
pm
again
it
will
be
held
virtually,
as
is
the
direction
until
I
believe,
until
we're
meeting
this
way
until
after
the
municipal
elections.
Can
I
have
clarification
on
that
that
there
is
an
opportunity
to
start
meeting
in
person,
but
only
after
if
it's
deemed
so
after
the
elections?
Is
that
correct.