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B
All
right,
first
order
of
business,
Koha
us
business,
so
for
the
upcoming
conference
it
looks
like
we
have
a
nomination
of
Koha
u.s.
officers.
I
guess
my
role
as
vice
president
roles
into
the
role
of
president
this
next
time
around,
but
the
roles
for
vice
president
secretary
treasurer
and
member
at
large
are
open.
B
Okay,
easy
awesome!
First,
one
down
all
right!
Next
on
the
agenda
2017
conference
report,
we
are
finalizing
the
the
registration
I'm,
hoping
that
we
will
get
the
registration
open
today.
If
we
can
get
everybody
to
sign
off
on
the
registration
form
and
say
we're
good
to
go.
Robin
has
been
working
on
or
it's
working
on,
the
PayPal
link
for
that
and
we've
got
the
information
for
people
to
send
in
the
registration
fee
of
$25
and
the
schedule
is
has
been
up
for
people
to
peruse.
B
So
we
did
get
Chris
Cormac
to
sign
off
on
being
our
keynote
speaker
for
the
conference.
He
is
going
to
remote
in
to
do
his
presentation,
and
so
that
was
that
was
huge.
So
we've
got
that
squared
away
and
I
think
we've
got
everybody's
topics
listed
on
there
on
the
schedule,
so
I
think
we're
moving
forward
at
a
good
pace.
So
hopefully,
today
we'll
get
that
registration
open
for
people
to
start
signing
up
any
questions
on
the
conference
and
you
guys
are
easy
all
right
either
that
or
my
audio.
It's
turned
off.
B
F
And
yeah
I
think
that
this
might
it
has
the
opportunity
to
get
a
little
involved
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
shouldn't
just
go
ahead
and
can
we
roll
Nick
into
and
to
maybe
leading
off
with
with
the
elasticsearch
information
that
he
has,
then
we
can
just
take
this
up
when,
when
he's
done
any
objections,
all
right,
Nick,
it's
yours
all.
B
A
B
G
G
G
All
right,
elasticsearch
is
in
1611,
however,
I
wouldn't
recommend
using
it
in
production.
Quite
yet
the
current
state
of
things
there
is
actually
a
wiki
page.
It
was
posted
to
the
Kohut
developments
listserv
just
recently,
I'll
try
to
find
that
link
in
a
minute
that
lists
all
the
current
ongoing
bugs
that
are
happening
with
it.
There
is
one
critical
bug
right
now
that
is
basically
preventing
the
indexing
from
working
correctly,
but
that
has
more
to
do
with
the
versions
of
the
underlying
dependencies.
G
Elasticsearch
itself
is
working.
Well,
it
does
a
lot
of
interesting
things.
It
is
different
than
zebra,
which
is
the
expectation.
A
lot
of
it
is
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
needs
to
be
copied
from
zebra
and
what
can
be
different
like
where,
where
it's
a
problem
that
we're
not
doing
what
zebra
does
and
where
it's
a
feature
that
we're
not
going,
what
keeper
does
it
is
going
to
be
faster,
it
is
going
to
be
more
configurable
and
it's
gonna
give
you
better
results.
G
G
So
it's
elasticsearch
itself:
the
underlying
module
like
elastic
search,
not
elastic
koha
elasticsearch,
is
an
extremely
powerful
tool.
The
way
that
I
keep
describing
it
to
people
is
basically
elasticsearch
is
a
tank
with
a
bottle
opener
on
the
side
and
what
we're
really
doing
right
now
is
using
that
bottle.
Opener,
that's
the
features
that
it
has
are
just
there's
going
to
be
extra
things.
We
can
do
like
adding
patron
searches,
doing
that
we
can
probably
do
some
statistics
and
recording
using
elasticsearch,
but
right
now
we're
just
focusing
on
getting
the
search
in
and
adding
it.
G
The
web
page
with
the
list
mentioned
some
of
the
things
that
you're
gonna
want
like
right.
Now
you
can't
add,
you
can't
add
indexes
you
can
specify
which
fields
go
into
an
index,
but
you
can't
add
a
new
index,
so,
for
instance,
barcode
is
not
in
the
base
indexes
that
you
get
with
Koha,
so
it
needs
to
be
added
in,
but
there's
no
way
for
the
user
to
do
that
on
their
end.
Right
now,
little
things
like
that
and
a
couple
other
bugs
are
what
we're
working
on.
G
Unicode
support
needs
to
get
added
and
really
what
we
need
at
this
point
is.
We
need
people
in
the
community
testing
it.
So
we've
got
the
new
RM
jonathan
drew
art.
He
is
working
on
reaching
out
and
trying
to
get
new
people
involved
in
the
project
and
helping
revamp
the
way
that
we
get
new
people
involved.
Any
of
you
are
interested
in
working
on
it.
Please
let
us
know-
and
you
can
do
that
on
the
side
of
when
are
you
actually
gonna
see
a
lot
of
searching
movements
at
Bywater?
G
We're
gonna
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
build
the
servers
this
summer
elasticsearch
one
of
the
great
features
about
it
is
that
it
is
really
powerful.
It
does
take
some
underlying
computer.
You
know
you
need.
You
need
power
to
run
it
as
well,
but
it's
cluster
Abell,
which
means
that
we
can
build
it
in
a
way
that
when
we
need
to
add
more
servers,
we
can
just
bring
those
online
spin
them
up
and
boom
we
get
more
performance,
so
we
need
to
build
on
our
side
the
backend
for
supporting
elasticsearch
as
well.
G
That's
the
rough
overview
like
state
of
things.
So
probably
we're
looking
at
maybe
1711
for
elasticsearch
to
be
production-ready,
but
we
won't
even
be.
We
won't
be
prepared
to
roll
it
out
until
this
summer
and
1711
will
be
the
earliest
time
that
you
would
probably
see
it
in
a
polished
way.
Nick
a
couple.
B
G
Once
we
have
an
elastic
search
server
for
your
site,
yes,
you'll
be
able
to
choose
whether
to
use
it
or
not.
It's
a
simple
system,
preference
that
switches
you
from
one
to
the
other.
However,
if
you
don't
have
an
elastic
search,
server
running
on
the
background
and
your
server
is
not
configured
to
use
it.
Turning
on
that
switch
won't
do
much.
You
know
you
have
a
switch
on
your
in
your
house
that
isn't
wired
to
anything.
You're,
not
gonna
really
expect
your
lights
to
come
on.
G
Hey
Nick
will
elastic
and
zebra
both
be
functioning
Unser.
They
can
be
run
concurrently.
As
far
as
we
can
tell.
There
are
no
at
least
no
major
issues
in
doing
that.
They
can
be
run
side
by
side.
They
will
both
get
updated
and
you
can
switch
back
and
forth
between
the
two
to
kind
of
see
a
different
result
set
and
probably
in
initial
testing.
G
At
a
few
sites,
we've
been
able
to
set
it
up
so
that
you
actually
have
two
URLs
one
URL,
which
searches
zebra
more
on
URL,
which
searches
elastic
so
that
you
can
actually
real-time.
Compare
the
you
know,
compare
apples
to
apples,
do
the
same
searches
on
the
same
set
and
see
the
results.
So
as
we
get
into
the
stage
where
we're
actually
looking
at
rolling
it
out
into
production.
B
G
G
It
works
out
of
the
box
right
there,
and
so
anyone
interested
in
testing
if
you
need
help
getting
a
dev
box,
set
up
we're
happy
to
work
with
you
on
that,
because
we'd
love,
this
have
more
users,
testing
and
get
more
feedback,
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
big
things
we
need
right
now
is
we're
just
gonna
need
user
feedback.
I
can
only
tell
so
much
from
searching
my
own
test
database
because
I
don't
run
a
library
out
of
my
house.
F
So
I'm
just
looking
at
agenda
one
of
the
questions
I
had
for
those
who
are
in
this
meeting
and
Robin
you,
you
went
ahead
and
you
created
the
501c3.
Do
when
you
submit
it
correct,
so
it's
actually
registered
there
and
in
Kansas.
So
that's
something!
That's
I,
guess
imperative.
I
didn't
realize
that
was
so
important,
but
that
does
I
guess
for
tax
structure
and
everything
else.
It's
something
that
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
is
there?
Is
there
anybody
here
who
has
experience
with
501
C
3?
F
A
I
had
to
go
through
the
state
Secretary
of
State's
office
and
fill
out
the
form,
and
then
we
hired
Jim
Mingus
to
help
us
with
the
federal
RS
stuff.
The
state
stuff
was
pretty
easy.
The
federal
stuff
was
a
little
more
challenging
other
questions
and
decisions
that
had
to
be
made,
but
that
was
first
time.
I'd
done
it.
So
my
expertise
is
this
particular
you
know
just
what
I've
done
so
I,
don't
really
know.
A
I
A
F
And
I
think
probably
one
of
the
things
that's
going
to
be
helpful,
of
course,
is
with
with
bringing
in
new
members
and
getting
membership
fees
being
able
to
apply
that
some
of
the
needs
that
come
on
us
course.
One
will
have,
and
especially
probably
with
some
of
the
suggestions
that
that
I
have
especially
and
some
of
my
brief
research
for
fundraising
and
for
501c3
fundraising.
F
A
Is
now
working,
somebody
Michael
from
Bywater
actually
did
the
coding
and
worked
with
me
to
get
it
to
work
because
I
got
the
coding
up
there,
but
it
was
not
working.
He
managed
to
make
it
work.
So
just.
D
B
A
Of
the
things
I
can
do
is
put
a
successful
payment,
URL
link
in
so
if
you
want
to
do
payment
first
and
then
registration
once
payment
has
been
confirmed.
All
I
need
is
that
URL
of
the
registration
page,
if
you
prefer
just
to
have
I
mean
you
know
it's.
It's
I'm,
not
sure
how
the
form
is
is
set
up
exactly
so.
A
Like
I
said,
I
haven't
looked
at
the
coding
behind
it.
The
kohai
us
because
we're
using
MediaWiki
on
there
makes
just
basic
HTML
really
difficult,
but
it's
possible.
We
could
do
it.
I
just
yeah.
It's
gonna
hijack
any
URL.
We
use
and
try
to
run
it
through
the
wiki
and
ooh.
F
F
Words
that
didn't
receive
that
email
I
can
always
forward
it
out
to
you,
but
I've
been
asking
some
questions.
Domain
names,
you
know
going
to
GoDaddy
getting
a
co,
hire
us
for
two
or
three
like
three
for
one
of
course,
I'm
sure
the
practices
is
fitting
for
all
three,
but
you
know
they
give
you
different
options.
So
I
think
you
could
get
out
for
less
than
60
bucks.
F
You
can
get
domain
name
that
you
can
secure
them
for
a
couple
of
years
and
which
is
something
that
I'm
more
than
willing
to
you
know,
contribute
I'd,
be
happy
to
go
ahead
and
purchase
the
main
name
and
then
also
considering
on
the
GoDaddy
site.
If
we
wanted
to
set
up
a
website,
so
we
can
start
isolating
ourselves
from
all
the
organizations
associations
that
we
currently
have
from
you
know
where
you're
at
robbing
from
where
you're
at
friend
and
from
where
I
am
and
that
with
a
bible
water
solution.
A
We
already
own
Koha
us
men
and
I-
think
maybe
org
I,
don't
remember.
Oh
well,
I
go
through
direct
NIC
is
my
registrar.
I
think
we
didn't
get
calm
because
I'm
not
sure
why,
but
Nichols
has
been
contributing
that
the
domain
name
last
year
or
two
and
then
we'll
transfer
that
over
to
to
koha
paying
for
it.
So
again,
Nichols
is
no
longer
so
involved,
but
we
do
have
kohat
us
net
and
Koha
us
net.
F
A
F
D
D
F
If
we
had,
if
we
haven't
done
that,
Rob
and
I
might
just
go
ahead
and
pay
for
that,
but
I
don't
know
where
it's
better
to
be
registered
for
and
then,
if
I
pay
for
it,
you
know
I,
don't
know
what,
if
I
have
the
address
for
koha
and
I'd
be
happy
to
pay
for
it
and
just
donate
that
coli
us
just
register
it
that
way.
So,
if
I
have
that
information
I
don't
mind
doing
that,
just
isolates.
We've
got
it.
F
Okay,
then,
honestly,
where
we're
gonna
have
our
website
who
we
want
to
host
it
with
and
and
in
creating
that
you
know
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
skill
sets
are
like
I'm
sure
that
plenty
here
in
this
group,
but
you
know
who
wants
to
spearhead
that
and
who
wants
to
start
getting
this
going
and
and
then
well
that's
going
to
look
like
what
that
will
entail.
Okay,
okay.
D
A
It
looks
like
I
had
done
Co
na
or
Gannett,
but
I
did
not
do
that
for
us
I.
Don't.
A
D
F
Are
some
of
the
things
that
so
they're
necessary
for
us
to
look
for
and,
of
course,
we're
trying
to
get
into
the
fundraising?
That's
not
love
this
organization,
it's
all
about,
but
it's
something
that's
going
to
be
imperative
for
this
organization
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
the
things
that
we
all
want,
whether
it's
helping
kohat
us
helping
Quahog
community
and
also,
in
particular,
I
think
for
all
those
things
that
we
do
want
to
see
in
Koha
that
are
going
to
be
relevant
and
and
maintain
core
elements.
F
F
But
for
me
especially
now,
given
my
position
with
by
water
solution
since
I'm,
now
working
with
fundraising,
I'm
supposed
to
be
working
kind
of
up
sites,
we
have
our
own
crowdsourcing
but
I
need
to
support
kohai
us
as
well,
so
I
have
two
different
differentiate
between
the
two
and
support
them
both
but
but
I
I
would
like
to
try
to
see
if
we
can
have
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
a
second
meeting.
You
know
as
we're
trying
to
develop
this
I
know.
F
F
Making
sure
we
have
a
committee,
you
start
working
on
that
website.
What
that
should
look
like
you
know,
I
mean
this
is
probably
something
we
could
wrap
up
in
one
meeting
if
all
these
things
were
purchased
and
put
in
order,
but
I
think
some
of
the
things
that
hold
people
back
are
who's
gonna
purchase.
This
like
I,
said
I,
don't
mind
I'll
purchase
of
the
main
name,
I
mean
I'd,
even
probably
go
so
far
as
to
purchase
your
one
for
our
website,
just
as
a
donation
to
kohai
us
well,.
A
There
is
that,
but
we
did
just
get
$50
from
a
very
generous
donor
that
we
could
use
to
pay
for
the
that
was
Todd
by
the
way
for
everybody
who
is
not
aware,
he
tested
out
the
PayPal
button
by
donating
50
bucks,
so
I
mean
koha.
Us
right
at
the
moment
has
after
your
donation,
$800
in
the
bank,
so
Koha
can
pay
for
whatever
needs
to
be
done.
We
do
have
the
money
there
and
then,
if
we're
continuing
to
fundraise
now,
if
you
want
to,
you
still
want
to
donate,
that's
fine.
F
A
But
at
some
point
it
would
be
nice
to
just
have
kohai
us
paying
for
all
the
stuff,
because,
like
I
said
right
now,
knuckles
is
paying
for
the
domain.
Name
and
and
different
people
have
been
donating
different
things
so
yeah.
But,
however,
you
guys
want
to
do
it,
but
I
yeah
I'm
not
going
to
turn
down
that
offer
to
to
pay
for
the
domain
name.
If
you
really
want
it
as.
F
Oh
and
that's
one
thing
I
think
I
want
to
also
kind
of
Road
junk
since
we
said
that
and
not
to
stand
out
that
I
made
a
donation.
Yeah
I
want
to
test,
but
then
I
kind
of
thought.
Well,
I'd,
better
put
my
money
where
my
mouth
does.
You
know
Here
I
am
talking
about
trying
to
get
people
to
donate,
to
go
up
and
I
hadn't
even
made
a
donation.
F
Yet
so
I
went
ahead
and
did
it
so
I'm
not
here
to
influence
but
I'm
here
to
suggest
that
if
any
of
you
feel
inclined,
you
know
it's
funny,
it's
each
one
of
us
that
makes
the
difference.
So,
even
if
it's
just
this
group
to
start
so
people
can
see
that
we're
all
doing
it.
It's
nice
to
be
able
to
say
that
we've
contributed
something
that
we
believe
it
that
we
can
carry
that
for
it.
F
Enough
said
on
that,
so
then
some
of
the
other
things
that
start
to
enter
in,
of
course,
as
I've
been
looking
at
a
number
of
different
sites.
Google
for
nonprofits
looks
like
a
good
one
that
we
might
be
able
to
get
some
use
out
of.
There
are
some
requirements.
They
want
you
to
make
sure
that
you
can
qualify
as
an
NGO
and
that
you,
you
know
you
can
qualify
through
TechSoup.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
these.
F
These
tools,
of
course,
come
at
a
reduced
price
or
a
non-profit,
and
then
they
offer
you
a
number
of
different
things
to
so
that
you
have
not
just
a
you
know,
a
national
but
an
international
appeal,
and
you
know
and
you're
able
to
reach
out
further
than
just
you
know
your
normal
scope
of
business.
So
for
us
we
wouldn't
just
be
looking
co-head
us,
although
that's
important
we'd,
be
willing
to
accept
anything,
because
I
think,
even
as
the
u.s.
F
D
F
Then
our
appeal,
of
course,
is
to
work
with
and-
and
you
know,
and
do
things
for
koha
us,
but
whatever
we're
doing
in
Kauai
u.s.
were
impacting
internationally
as
well,
so
to
also
have
not
just
a
US
appeal,
but
an
international
appeal,
not
that
we
have
to
have
that
kind
of
presence
right
away,
but
that's
something
that
we
need
to
keep
in
the
back,
it's
inevitable.
F
F
Does
anybody
have
anything
to
say
in
regards
to
any
of
this
I
know
it's
kind
of
I
think
it's
new
for
all
of
us,
I
mean
we've
talked
about
it.
You
know
and
everybody's
like.
Oh,
you
have
fund
raising,
listen.
This
is
great.
You
know
it's
not
a
carwash,
it's
not
selling
brownies
or
cookies
Zana
on
the
sidewalk
next
to
Girl
Scouts
trying
to
beat
them
up,
there's
something
more
and
it's
it's
a
little
daunting
if
you're
new
to
it.
If
you
haven't
done
it
especially
and.
E
A
E
A
Yourself
or
add
kohai
us
as
your
smile,
amazon.com
Target,
or
send
a
check
and
we've
gotten
a
check
or
two
before
we
got
all
this
set
up
so
from
different
organizations.
So
Todd
was
mentioning
it
and
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
that
it
is
there
and
you
can
send
people
there
anytime,
like
I,
said
I'm
still
working
on
the
CSS
to
make
it
a
little
less
crazy.
Looking
thing
Robin.
F
E
Question
I'm
working
on
my
next
year's
budget.
We
fiscal
year
starts
July
1st
I'm,
going
to
specify
some
amount
for
donation
for
koha
development,
so
I
want
to
know.
I
want
to
be
able
to
tell
my
director
that
what
I
donates
going
to
go
right
to
development
or
are
we
going
to
separate
funds
or
are
we
going
to
let
people
designate
what
what
their
donations
for
or
how
is
that
kind
of
work?
E
F
So
I'm
kind
of
curious
if
it
was
something
that
we
didn't
have,
that
was
part
of
the
kohai
us
site.
But
let's
say
it
was
a.
It
was
a
development
that
he
wanted
to
contribute
to
the
501c3.
But
let's
say
it
was
something
that
you
know
Bywater
had
listed
on
their
site,
something
you
wanted
to
contribute
you
can
we
can
we
do
that?
F
Can
we
say
we'd
like
this
money
to
go
towards
a
particular
development
that
I
see
by
water
solutions
it's
working
on
or
if
it
was,
if
it
was
Billy
brayer
that
was
calyx
or
catalyst
or
anybody
if
there's
something
that
you
saw
out
there,
that
you
wanted
to
contribute
to.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
isolate
down
to
you.
A
We
need
to
do
is
figure
out.
We've
been
looking
at
open
source,
nonprofit
management,
software
and
I.
Guess
that's
not
her
she's
been
looking
into
it
most
the
most.
She
has
most
information
about
it
right
at
the
moment,
but
if
we
had
that
kind
of
software
we
could
set
up
funds
in
that
software
and
track
much
more
easily.
A
A
B
A
A
H
B
H
B
E
Have
a
development
committee
set
up
and
I
know
they
reported
once,
but
couldn't
we
use
them
to
us
to
identify
some
things?
I
know:
there's
libraries
out
there
to
have
money
in
they're
frustrated
because
they
have
not
been
had
access
to
developers
to
do
what
they
want
to
do
so,
maybe
kohai
us
could
help
by
gathering
this
together
and
in
working
with
by
water.
F
To
make
sure
that
the
playing
field
is
all
equal,
and
even
one
of
the
other
things
that
I
sent
out
an
email
to
the
board
again
was
just
a
list
with
links
of
you
know
we
can
start
developing
a
pool
of
Perl
programmers
that
we
could
go
to
you
know.
Different
people
are
gonna,
have
different
time
requirements,
and
you
know
some
are
going
to
be
able
to
work
different
hours
than
they
know.
F
I
think
it
would
be
a
Bywater,
B
I
believe
maybe
it's
a
freelance
Pro
programmer,
but
developing
that
pool
is
going
to
be
kind
of
important,
and
so
what
you're
saying
man
see
I
think
you
know
if
we
have
something
like
that,
and
if
you
need
to
have
it
done
overnight,
we
were
able
to
get
this
thing
taken
care
of
I.
Think
that
would
probably
be
good
well.
E
We
have
a
committee
and
I'm
not
really
sure
what
they've
done
so
far.
They
were
looking
at
developments
to
possibly
put
some
money
behind,
but
if
there's
stuff
out
there
that's
bigger,
then
you
know
some
minor
things
that
we
could
come
up
with,
that
we
could
pool
our
money
with
I
know:
there's
libraries
out
there
that
have
money
they
would
like
to
improve
koha.
We
just
need
to
get
that
all
together,
I
think.
E
F
E
People
to
look
at
and
making
some
decisions,
I
just
started
a
conversation
with
my
purchasing
person
about
how
am
I
going
to
donate
and
that's
gonna
be
a
problem
with
the
county.
They
don't
like
you
to
donate
county
funds,
so
I've
got
some
friends
of
the
library
gift
funds
that
I
can
put
towards
that.
But
I'm
gonna
have
to
have
something
a
little
more
specific
to
point
to
you
other
than
we're
just
gonna
get
together
and
pool
our
money
for
something
so
we're
gonna
have
to
have
some
concrete
things
to
show
and.
F
Let's
say
you
got
with
by
water:
could
somebody
give
me
an
estimate
for
this
particular
development?
They
gave
you
a
number,
and
then
you
said
yes,
we
have
that
amount,
we'll
go
ahead
and
pay
for
it.
That
would
be
sort
of
that
would
be
one
of
our
crowdsource
funding
or
dissipate
through
developments
that
you
could
do
that
you
would
get
invoice
specifically
for
that
particular
development.
So,
let's
write.
I
F
You
can
go,
but
if
it's
going
to
be
through
the
501c3
and
it
was
going
to
be
a
donation
then
being
able
to
work
on
the
backend
so
that
if
you
said
you
know
to
somebody,
this
is
what
we're
looking
at.
We
need
to
have
this
development
done.
We
might
still
need
to
go
through
the
process
of
getting
the
quotes,
so
you
could
then
offer
that
maybe
to
Robin
or
somebody
put
this
money
to
the
501c3.
F
That's
too
easy
boys
back
on
that
we
need
by
water
or
another.
Well,
this
Perl
programmer
over
here
said
he
was
going
to
do
it.
You
know
we
have
somebody
who
understands
we
would
like
to
vet
the
Perl
programmers,
so
I
even
talked
with
Kyle.
Me
said
the
other
probably
wouldn't
be
some
kind
of
vetting
program
we
can
put
in
place
and
so
he'll
evaluate
that
with
all
the
other
things
he
has
to
work
on,
but
he
and
Nick
would
put
something
like
that
together.
F
But
until
that
point
you
know,
yeah
you've
got
a
couple
different
avenues.
You
can
go
with
us
direct
and
then
we
can
invoice
you
directly
if
youth
development
or
through
the
501c3
and
just
deal
with
whoever
the
treasurer
is
and
get
invoiced
back.
And
then
you
know
all
that
information
would
then
either
come
to
buy
water
to
somebody
else
that
you
find
okay.
E
D
F
F
Yeah
and
those
are
the
things
that
we
should
look
at
as
an
organization
not
only
develop
them,
but
also
probably
the
testing
and
evaluation
and
I
just
develop
it
up
to
a
point
and
handoff
on
it,
but
make
sure
it
gets
through
testing.
And
then
you
know,
even
if
it's
a
matter
of
you
know
twenty-five,
fifty
or
hundred
dollar
stipend,
depending
on
the
amount
of
testing
that
they
have
to
do
an
evaluation.
And
so
we
can
get
it
back
to
load
up
through
the
development
phase.
F
D
F
That's
something
that,
in
my
in
my
position,
it
might
be
kind
of
outside
the
scope
of
fundraising,
but
knowing
that
that
is
stated
for
us
to
be
able
to
move
forward,
it
probably
would
be
some
of
the
preliminary
work
you
know
reaching
out
to
some
of
the
universities
where
they
may
teach
Perl
and
also
just
trying
to
find
people
again.
Freelance
Perl,
programmers
and
I
found
a
lot
of
these
guys.
I
mean
some
of
the
prices
were
just
you
know.
F
No,
they
out
there
like
150
bucks
an
hour
and
some
are
like
15
to
30
bucks
an
hour
and
they
have
really
good
rankings.
You
know
I
mean
people
have
gone
to
them
a
number
of
times
and
they
really
like
the
work
of
a
very
professional.
So
you
can
read
up
on
all
their
biographies.
You
can
find
out
the
kind
of
work
they've
done.
They
you
know
will
tell
you
where
you
can
go
and
see
it,
but
yeah.
The
universities
would
be
another
great
place
to
do
that
for
sure.
F
F
John
you
have
anybody
at
who
are
doing
programming
up
there.
B
That
you're,
knowledgeable
I'll
have
to
take
a
look
around
I'm.
Not
really.
Certainly
here
at
the
business
school
were
kind
of
isolated
from
just
about
everything
else,
but
we
do
have
a
college
of
engineering
and
I
believe
there's
also
a
separate
computer
science
program.
That's
part
of
the
literature
science
and
arts
college
I'll.
Take
a
look
around
see
what
I
might
be
able
to
find
out.
K
A
A
D
B
F
F
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
you
know,
I'm
working
on
and
and
those
are
some
of
some
of
the
things
that
I
have
of
concern.
It's
I
spoke
with
Chris
Davis
the
other
day
and
I
told
him.
I
said
you
know
it
seems
a
little
slow,
I
know
everybody's
sort
of
disjointed.
So
we
talked
about
you,
know
the
speed
of
library
and
how
that
is,
and
our
library,
Nancy,
and
so
we
know.
F
Sometimes
things
can
take
time,
there's
a
certain
level
of
bureaucracy
that
happens
in
there,
but
I
think
for
for
this
group
in
particular
to
get
this
to
get
this
going
and
a
half
something
and
be
fun
if
we
had,
even
if
we
had
the
beginnings
of
a
website,
that
we
could
that
we
can
show
people
when
we're
at
the
conference.
You
know
just
something
that
we
can
offer
and
we
can
get
input
while
were
there
and
I
think
that'd
be
a
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
discussion.
F
I
think
you
know
talking
about
fundraising,
even
still
I,
don't
think
I've
offered
that
crisp
to
our
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
on
the
agenda
I
haven't
seen
it,
but
I
didn't
offer
it
since
I.
Just
in
this
position,
but
I
think
talking
about
that
and
being
able
to
talk
about
our
website
and
talk
about
it.
Compresses
stuff,
like
that
I
think
that
would
be
something
wonderful
to
talk
about.
I,
think
it
really
allows
people
to
open
up
their
minds
and
kind
of
wax
creative
and
it's
a
really
good
employee.
B
You
know
I'm
all
for
us
having
discussions,
you
know,
I
know
the
concern
about
us.
Having
you
know
major
discussions
once
a
month
here,
I
would
like
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
ongoing
discussions
and
Todd
I
know
that
you
have
sent
your
information
to
the
board
members
to
generate
some
discussion.
I
would
like
to
encourage
anybody
if
there
are
things
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about
and
not
have
to
wait
month
by
month
for
a
discussion,
we
can
always
generate
discussion
through
the
listserv,
because
we
have
a
listserv
going.
B
We
don't
have
to
necessarily
wait
for
the
meeting,
but
if
there's
something
that
that's
generated,
that
we
need
to
do
an
official
discussion
and
decision
on,
then
we
can
do
that
at
a
meeting
and
we're
all
up
to
speed
through
the
the
listserv.
So
all
these
discussions
that
we're
having
I
would
like
to
encourage
everybody.
Let's
get
these
topics
talked
about
in
the
lift,
sir,
so
that
we
can
keep
moving
forward
and
not
be
held
back
by
this
once
a
month.
Meeting
I
want
us
to
go
forward.
I
want
us
to
be
faster.
F
These
things
kind
of,
are
they
slow
us
down
and
hold
us
up,
and
once
we
can
get
past
this,
and
we
can
just
put
this
thing
on
whose
control
we
all
know
what
we're
working
towards
and
just
plug
into
those
areas.
So
we
can,
you
know,
find
and
match
and
meet
our
needs.
I
think
that
would
be
just
fantastic.
B
B
M
Redid
the
website
at
my
library
I
mean
if
we
can
do
WordPress
like
I,
can
help
you
with
it.
I'm,
not
I,
guess
I
was
a
little
late
to
the
discussion.
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
the
website
is
for,
but
is
it
going
to
be
like
a
replacement
for
a
wiki
we're
revamping
romper
room?
So
we
want
to
know
how.
A
Of
the
problem
is
the
wiki,
like
Fred's
fabulous
forum
that
he
created
would
be
really
difficult
to
have
in
the
wiki,
because
it
would
require
making
a
template
and
then
writing
JavaScript
to
make
it
just
it's
insane
process
to
get
HTML
on
to
a
wiki.
So
we
need
to
have
some
other
kind
of
somewhere.
We
can
put
plain
HTML
that
without
jumping
through
flaming
hoops,
yes,.
F
B
M
A
B
Know,
there's
probably
plenty
of
hosts
out
there.
I
threw
out
a
link
on
the
the
chat
we
use
this
for
a
few
different
places
for
hosting
I
just
helped
set
up
another
website
through
them
and
they
offer
reasonable
prices
to
him
host.
So
they're
they're,
a
good
company
they've
been
really
stable.
They
offer
really
competitive
prices.
So
that's
one
place
to
look
at
if
you
can
find
a
better
deal,
go
for
it.
A
And
put
in
our
I:
don't
have
a
checking
account
or
we've
got
a
checking
account
I,
don't
have
checkbooks
cuz.
Frankly,
I
just
don't
write
checks,
but
I
do
have
a
debit
card
and
I
can
use
that
to
pay
for
an
account
wherever
you
guys
want
to
go
and
then
once
that's
paid
for
Jesse
can
take
it
from
there.
If
that's
what
you
want
to
do
got.
D
A
suggestion
they
looks
like
you
can
hear
me
up
at
least
for
the
registration
form.
I
could
register
Kovac,
u.s.
org
and
add
it
to
my
list
of
our
collection
of
domains
create
a
web
spot
right
yeah
this
afternoon
we
want
and
I
think
I
can
do
it
without
paying
extra,
except
for
the
domain
which
I
can
afford
this
1099.
B
Jesse,
would
you
would
you
have
any
considerations
for
a
hosts
site
that
you'd
think
that
would
be
workable
for
Kohath
us?
It
doesn't
have
to
be
to
him
host.
It
could
be
anything,
but
if
you
had
a
suggestion
for
that,
could
we
set
something
up
and
move
our
form
to
that
and
we
can
run
off
of
that
for
the
time
being
until
we
get
our
website
going,
but
we
could
set
that
form
up
on
there.
Sure
I
can
email
the
group
a
list
of
suggestions.
B
If
you
guys
want
to
take
a
look
and
then
we
can
take
it
from
there.
Okay,
why
don't
you?
Why
don't
you
send
that
to
the
board
and
we
can
we
can
all
sound
off
on
that
they
could
make
a
decision
on
that,
but
Fred.
You
said
that
the
the
registration
form
is.
The
final
draft
is
pretty
much
ready,
except.
F
F
I
F
D
K
B
So
Fred
you
did
you
send
out
the
the
link
to
the
committee
for
the
final
draft
on
that
registration
form.
Yes,
okay.
I'll
encourage
everybody
to
to
give
their
final
input
on
that
and
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
get
this
up
one
way
or
another
ASAP,
because
I
want
people
to
be
able
to
register
for
that
conference,
but
because
we
were
hoping
to
to
activate
something
on
the
12th
and
we're
a
little
past
that
so
as
soon
as
we
can,
we
can
get
it
moving
forward.
F
There's
there's
a
few
things,
but
I
think
we
fit
on
some
of
the
major
topics
and
I
think
we
need
to
get
over
these
terms
before
we
can
move
on
to
some
of
the
others.
I
would
like
it
if
people
could
go
in
and
take
a
look
at
Google
nonprofit.
Just
a
look
at
that
and
maybe
put
some
give
us
some
feedback.
F
It's
it's
pretty
easy
to
find
it
Google
for
nonprofits.
It's
a
google.com,
slash
nonprofits!
Just
take
a
look,
I!
Think
it's
a
consideration
for
us.
We
probably
should
have
our
own
separate
world
an
account
that
we're
working
in-
and
you
know
all
that
stuff.
So
we
can
really
start
to
just
make
ourselves
the
organization
I
think
that
we
want
to
grow
and
we
don't
have
to
have
all
the
bells
and
whistles
right
now,
but
just
to
have
the
basic
structure.
You
can
look
at
people
who
come
in
to
go
to
the
calendar.
F
B
B
B
B
B
Reminder
to
everybody,
if
you
have
anything
you
want
to
discuss
for
this.
This
group
I
encourage
to
open
discussions
on
the
listserv,
we'll
talk
about
things
and
continue
discussions
and
keep
moving
forward
and
anything
that
needs
to
be
finalized.
We're
decided
on
will
do
at
the
next
meeting,
but
don't
leave
it
to
the
next
meeting
to
bring
it
up
feel
free
to
bring
it
up
and
the
listserv
and
and
we'll
keep
trudging
forward
iteration
for
an
IRC
channel
for
Kauai
us
is
something
that
we
could
do
bring
it
up.
Make.