Koha-US SIG - System Admin Special Interest Group, 14 Apr 2020

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00:37:38 Michael Adamyk: Makes sense, thanks
00:38:51 Holly: Yes, makes sense. Thanks!
00:39:01 Caroline Cyr La Rose: Here's the plugin https://inlibro.com/en/changeduedate-instructions/
00:39:12 Caroline Cyr La Rose: I think the Koha tool is based on this
00:39:27 jtate: We are working to give staff access to the client from home. We aren't comfortable with giving the staff access to the VPN on their home PC.
00:39:47 jennie evans: That's a great idea!
00:39:58 Holly: Some of our sites have enabled renewals on the OPAC, so patrons can renew as they need.
00:40:06 jtate: We are using a certain IP range for the client. With their IPs changing periodically we are having trouble. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.
00:40:24 jennie evans: we are
00:40:27 Michael Adamyk: We are
00:40:28 Corona: Yes!
00:40:40 Marta Ambroziak: yes
00:40:52 Barbara Johnson: we've always used it. But we created a new Digital Use Only patron type.
00:41:42 Edward Veal: @jtate, is that just for staff?
00:41:50 Edward Veal: access to the staff client?
00:42:03 jtate: yes. I submitted a ticket.
00:42:50 Edward Veal: Good, there might be a way to just turn that off and then back on when you open back up. The issue would be that it would open access to anyone with the URL.
00:45:20 George: http://koha-us.org/2020/02/27/kohathon2020/ Kohathon next week - Thursday, April 23
00:46:26 Jason Robb: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/set-items-to-quarantine-status-upon-return
00:49:57 Barbara Johnson: We're doing elder checks and offering delivery of holds for those patrons.
00:50:42 Holly: I have one or two sites which, for a variety of reasons, have duplicate patron accounts, so they have been using this time to merge these records
00:51:22 Michael Adamyk (CKLS): Some of our staff have been helping me out with reports cleanup. They’re running reports to make sure they work properly, and are still relevant
00:51:37 Corona: We're adding 520s and cleaning up diacritics
00:54:01 Tami Wilkerson: Our cataloger is investigating different records with the same OCLC number. Past cataloging practice here was...not standard to say the least.
00:54:44 Lisette Scheer: If the Idaho stay-at-home order is extended tomorrow we will probably have some circ staff start working on cleaning up patron notes and messages.
00:56:56 Michael Adamyk (CKLS): You’re just using a report to pull accounts with patron notes, right?
00:59:55 Michael Adamyk (CKLS): I’ve seen several patron accounts with a note that just says, “No.” Not sure what that’s all about
01:00:09 Caroline Cyr La Rose: lol!
01:02:53 Michael Adamyk (CKLS): Thanks Lisette
01:03:00 Corona: Thanks
01:04:16 jtate: I was in the process of moving and had to stop due to the stay at home order.
01:04:18 Barbara Johnson: Cat keeps trying to mess with my stuff
01:05:30 Heather Hernandez: We have three adults telecommuting in a 1-bedroom apartment, but luckily we had fiberoptic installed! We try to do phone calls in the back yard.:)
01:06:50 Michael Adamyk (CKLS): 3 hours! wow
01:06:57 jtate: 3 hours, omg!
01:07:08 jennie evans: that's so long!
01:07:38 jennie evans: is that via car? or public transport?
01:08:13 Michael Adamyk (CKLS): One of the times I’m so thankful to live in a rural area. Can’t stand bad traffic
01:11:24 jtate: That's our policy also.
01:11:45 jennie evans: as of right now we are not allowed to work from home.
01:12:04 jtate: We only have a set number of laptops available, so staff is rotating them.
01:12:06 jennie evans: lol
01:12:10 jennie evans: i'm still here at the library
01:12:19 jennie evans: us and 7 other "essential" people
01:13:06 jtate: We are logging hours also.
01:15:41 Heather Hernandez: Maybe he could get internship/practicum credits for working with you on Koha, Ed?
01:16:20 Jason Robb: http://koha-us.org/kohathon-2020/
01:16:24 jennie evans: see you all later!!
01:16:32 Heather Hernandez: Really looking forward to Kohathon!
01:16:36 patricia: Thank You. Stay Safe
01:16:50 jtate: Thank you. Stay safe.
01:16:56 Heather Hernandez: Thanks so much!!

A

Out. Thank you for the reminder. Hi.

B

Are you talking about the the the tool that was added in like the the few days after the closures? Yes,.

C

B

It's just wondering: I haven't tried it yet.

A

Yeah I was able to get it to work when I first tested it and I tested it with just the staff checkouts. So I had a nice small little picture. Did a couple hundred checkouts boom worked beautifully, so I got a little excited, went in to use it and limited it to a single patron category and just a week's worth of dates to bump that week's worth of dates forward, and it timed out and I decided if I can't just do a single week for a single patron category.

A

This isn't worth my time and so I had a d-did.

D

Yeah the same that we ran into the same issue: I could do small numbers, but it timed out anytime, I tried anything very big.

E

We made a modification to the tool a little bit to give you the option of not previewing what it was that you were going to do. It's the on the large numbers. It's setting up the preview that was causing the tool to time out, so we made the preview optional in that case or I believe the paps that I was working on look at a sample subset and that seems to that seems to have at least affected the time outs on large data sets.

E

There's not a real great solution to being able to look at the entire data set before you. Do it without running a report on that dataset to look at what the tools would touch.

A

Okay, that's good to know if we have to extend again. I may want to look at that again.

A

So what are some other things that folks have done well.

B

I just wanted to mention an libro has a plug-in that does it to change due dates and we've used it with all our clients, and we haven't had time outs that I know of so I can maybe send the link. You can maybe try that instead of the the the tool that is in koha sure.

A

Can you, if you can find that link and put it in the chat, that'd be great.

A

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A

I'm going over looking through some of the chat right now Holly did. Our answer makes sense to you us, but you tested it on your test site and you were wondering what went wrong with us. I think we explained that yes, lots of cabin fever.

A

A

So has anybody done anything much with their opak since they've been closed.

C

I mean outside of putting up a news and setting off holes. That's pretty much everything we've done.

A

One of the things we did is we I made a quick backup of our all the information on our main user block and then I created a whole new page that highlighted all it did was highlight all of our digital resources. Instead of all the Oh.

A

All the different reading, like type stuff, we add up there and look recommendations and all of those kinds of things. I just had our digital resources up there with a direct link to our ecard process, and that is now our home page. Until we reopen back up.

A

I figured that's what people are looking for if they can't place holds, and they can't get a book. What why focus on a vlog the stuff.

B

Are a lot of libraries using the online registration for their patrons I.

A

Think there's a significant number of us I know, there's a number of us in this group right now that are using it.

F

um I just set it up, I know a few libraries that were already using it, but I just set it up and I immediately ran into library directors that didn't want it set up.

F

You know we have 50 libraries and I did a demo of I said you know. I want to I had like about ten people came to a meeting like this one and I showed them how it would work, and one of them had a lot of objections, because the self registration actually violates part of their specific libraries policies, and so what we decided to do is instead of you know, with 50 libraries.

F

Instead of having each person sign up for their home library, we had to move all of the new cards that are being created are being created at the system headquarters, so that they're all my patrons instead of belonging to the individual libraries and that wasn't hard to set up so that that says the only option they have is one library when they self register and then I've come up with a set of instructions for what people need to do to move that card to an individual library.

F

Once this problem passes and then once we're past it we're going to leave it set up, but in right now, I've got it set up so that as soon as the patron registers, they get a card number and they're verified, go on and use our digital resources. After we're done with this I'm gonna change inserted, each library has to verify through their own policies. You know before the card number decisions.

F

And actually I can put a plug in here for Kohath on next week is I will actually talk about this at the Quahog US Kohath on this will be one of the print presentations. I. Do will be about setting up self registration this way.

F

So if you're not doing anything on the 23rd I'll find the link and I'll put it in the chat to the Kohath on is the online conference that Koha u.s. is doing next. Thursday I think yes, the 23rd.

C

And if we're plugging things, we did talk about self registration at the web development sig last week and Lucas had a lot of good ideas for like little things. You can do to make it work better for you. So like you can, instead of using Auto minim to generate your your card numbers, you can use a little jQuery hack to to put together card numbers and also do the same thing with passwords where you're like showing the field but then hiding it, but generating things in the background which is stream lights up stuff for people.

C

So if you're interested in that stuff, our recordings up on that call us YouTube page for that.

A

Alright I'll have to go watch that that's we've been doing a lot of manual entry with it.

A

A

um I noticed there was question in the chat about a library using IP range for their staff client, and that is of course generated some problems from home I'm going ahead and opened up the ticket with Bywater to help them with that. But is anybody else facing that kind of thing you.

F

That has certainly not been a problem for us, because our staff already had access from home, like I said with 50 libraries, and we've got some really small libraries in the middle of nowhere, where they already the library, doesn't the library's ISPs and some of our communities can't provide a static, ISP I can't cap protects queues, they can't provide a static, IP and so we've never had. We've never really had the ability to lock people out of the staff client to begin with. So so that's not been an issue for us, but I know.

F

There are other libraries that use that the IP ranges for security.

F

A

Anybody else have any issues that they're facing.

D

We're already looking at the process we're gonna go through when we start opening up again and one of the things I think it came up in a Koha us meeting a few weeks ago. I don't remember which one it was, but somebody was talking about the ability to when you check items into Co.

D

How have them immediately go to a set shelving location, so you could check stuff in and have it go to a say, a quarantine, shelving location and then that way, everything that comes in just goes there and you know where it's at and then, after a certain American amount of time, you take it out, I, don't think you can set it up to come out of that automatically. But you would you could just run a report to see how long something has been I. Think. Oh, maybe.

B

That's in an older version, but wasn't there the cart to shelf cron job or something like that you can use after a certain.

G

Amount of time.

B

Not sure still exists, though I.

A

Think that was deprecated but I'm, not 100% sure.

C

On how to transition using the update, not for long status on check-in, this is rough. Oh c'mon thanks! So yeah, that's in the chat.

A

Now, that's not something we've ever used, because it's all in in our past. It's always been wrong. This is the time that it would actually be right.

C

You we've talking about opening up libraries. We had a meeting of all of a lot of our libraries earlier this morning and it's just like it's very uncertain. How we're all going to proceed and I think that a lot of us are going to a lot of my little libraries are gonna open up at different times, so there was a lot of discussion about maybe easing into it more starting with curbside pickup before we start opening up to the public again and how we're going to handle that.

C

So there's just a lot of physical considerations that we still haven't made, but also in regards to Koha we're thinking. We're gonna probably want to open it up to allow local holds only at the start, because we don't know how the courier is gonna shake out for us. Yet so, and then we also talked about what what we're gonna do with all the things that are in transit, that probably don't need to be in transit, anymore. Things that we're going out for holds they don't have holds on them anymore.

C

We're gonna have to go through and clean up. All of that so I'm just starting to think about the messes that I have to clean up and try not to get overwhelmed by that.

A

One of the things that we're doing we have I'm sure this is not unique one of the things one of the situations we have is we hired a couple of people right before closing.

A

We also have a situation where we have most of our folks can't really work from home, not because they can't, but because there's not real work for them to do from so the folks that are are facing our you know: hours problems they either don't have enough sick leave. They don't have enough legitimate leave to to continue to be paid.

A

We're coming up with legitimate work for them to do in the library and keeping social distancing and those kinds of things, and one of the things we've come up with is getting a complete inventory working through all of the books, doing it in a rather inefficient manner, but a manner that's going to really clean up our shelves and utilizing that time. This time. For that.

B

It's a good idea and I heard also about cleaning up authorities for cataloguers, and things like that. You know. Sometimes you have doubles and you want to merge and you can only do two at a time, so it can be time-consuming.

A

Busy work and that's something that would not be busy work, that is a good legitimate work for catalogers and folks to do. Some of our librarians have wanted to do collection development because they can do that from home, but we're not ordering anything nothing's being shipped. You know you can put together your lists, but that's just busy work.

A

Okay, yes, somebody just asked what we're doing.

A

Eldar checks and offering delivery of holds to patrons. We have the city of McKinney that I work for has just started, doing elder checks and we do have folks that are doing elder checks as well. Just calling elderly folks checking up on and making sure that's good. That's what you know. That's good legitimate work, we're not doing the whole delivery. That's we're not willing to that's too complicated.

A

Somebody else just commented that they have one or two slides which, for a variety of reasons, have duplicated patron accounts, so they've been using this time to clean up patron records. That's a good thought to cleaning up patron records.

A

We try to catch those on a weekly basis. We have a report that runs that we try to catch most of that stuff clean it up you another comment here: some staff have been helping out with report cleanup yep.

A

Insurance reports were working correctly, ooh.

F

Cleaning up diacritics, that's a really good yeah.

A

Somebody else can do that. It's.

F

A good idea, I didn't say: I was going to do.

A

I'm not gonna mention that to our CAD Locker, that will that will send her down a rabbit hole that we won't get her out of until them.

F

A

With the catalog.

H

F

A catalog dude, that's like that's, that's like a lifelong task that they dive into and never come.

F

F

One of the tasks that I had to commit myself to in order to get thirst circulation rules to work correctly is we had a lot of duplicated circulation means the the item type default rules, the ones at the very bottom of the circulation. Fines and fees rules some of my predecessors when they created a new item type they would go in and they would add a specific rule to each individual location for that item site. So what I wanted to make some global changes to those item types?

F

It meant that I had to go in and change every single one I couldn't just do it at the all branches level, so so I did find myself really very early on in this deleting a bunch of redundant circulation. So that way, you know the fun task for a system administrator. It certainly wasn't fun. We had about 900 of them because you know there were duplicated over 50 branches about 40, different item types, duplicated.

F

One of the things you know with our system being so many libraries we have about we're at a point now, where I think it's fewer than half of our libraries now have finds at the moment. So I've been you know, talking to directors and trying to encourage them.

F

This would be the perfect time to to go find three because I've got you know it's gonna, be that much easier for me to to handle making those changes to those rules right now when, when it's not going to affect anybody's gonna, be you know, I've got nothing else to do. This would be the perfect time to talk to your board, about getting rid of fines and I can take care of all the rules. Falling means clones.

F

So far, however, nobody's taking me up on that they are gonna, wait until it's as busy as possible, with everything being read, open and then they'll say you know that thing you were talking about. We just said.

A

Yeah also wonder if libraries are just a tad nervous about talking about stopping what could be perceived as a revenue stream, even though it's not what could be perceived as a revenue stream. While everything is in a shutdown economy, I can see where a library would be afraid down that conversation right now,.

D

Something else that we've been working on is we haven't, had we've got a pretty big Hispanic population in some of our service areas, but so far we haven't really had notifications that go out in Spanish and so I've been I. Don't translate Spanish help, but one of our staff members does, and so we've been working on I've just been formatting and sending notifications to her and she'll translate them and send it back and I put him in, and so that's a another idea. If anyone doesn't already do that.

F

For translations, if, if you need, if that person needs some other work to do Michael, let me know.

H

We haven't had them start doing it yet because technically art stay-at-home order is supposed to end tomorrow unless it gets extended tomorrow and he does a press conference.

H

But if it is extended, we're gonna have search staff start working on cleaning up patron notes, like notes on patrons accounts, because we have a lot of things that, like we don't put, notes on for expired holds like holds that we're waiting for pick up to long anymore at our branch, but there's still old ones from before. We stop doing that or we when George was here.

H

He linked some accounts using HTML so that you can, like click to go to a different Patriot count if they can pick up holes for each other, and we've worked on getting old accounts updated with that, but there's still a lot to do and yeah. We have a report with patron notes and I think I actually set it up so that if you click on the patron, it goes to the Edit screen at the section where the notes are or I told them.

H

I could do that because I've done it for some other reports, similar places, so I think I did get that set up before I sent it to the circum ana jure and that's the plan there. If.

F

The notes aren't appearing in HTML anymore: I have the jQuery to make them appear. I.

H

Think you already gave me that jQuery or else it got fixed that note in particular maybe is fixed I, don't remember, but it works for us right now. So it's.

A

Funny I was so ready to hear you say something yeah when George was here, he did this now we got to fix it all.

F

That's essentially what she's saying yeah yeah.

H

Because he started back, but no one else did it for a long time. I started doing it when I first started there to insert but most of the search staff. We we have not most of the search staff doing it now, as of like the last six months, but there's still years of old notes, we're like so, and so it can pick up holds for so, and so, some of which are very unhelpful. They'll just be like hey, husband can pick up holds, and it's like well what's husband's name.

H

Also, we don't care that he's husband's. We just care that he can pick up holes yeah.

A

Yeah George did you share that jQuery in the jQuery library or someplace I.

F

Didn't write, it I think I think somebody would buy water did for me, I think Michael did that's how long ago it was needed. I'll have to look and see.

A

If it's in there or not, there's what we've got a number of those situations and we don't have- we just see the patrons name and then go to check it out to that patron and jump to it. That way,.

F

Yeah, it used to be that when you created a mess, these are not the the notes. These are the messages right.

F

It used to be that the patron messages would appear if you put HTML when the messages yet natively rendered as HTML, and then there was a update and that function was removed because some developer decided it wasn't needed anymore or what it wasn't it shouldn't some developer decided it shouldn't work that way to begin with and so got taken out, and then all of a sudden, we had hundreds of notes that hundreds of messages that had HTML one and that wouldn't render that way anymore and so Michael at Bywater, who wasn't there very long and it's been years ago, so we'll probably about three years ago, and he was only there for about six months- he wrote some jQuery them to do that so and it's also, it also works in other places.

F

It used to be that if you put HTML in the notes on reports, those would also render as HTML and the same jQuery can be added to that div. On those pages. Those notes, if you have HTML in your ordinance that will appear and that's how I was doing something where I clicked on a link in the in a report.

F

That I was showing somebody in some meeting and they said wait a minute how the hell did you do that slow down and then I realized that you can't do that unless you have that jcrane in there. So it's really something that ought to be in the library.

A

I'm kind of curious as to what the circ staff has to do to make that happen. If, if a spouse or whoever it is says, this person can check out my holds a certain.

F

Format to get that to work, you got a you've got to put a link in there. Essentially, you've got to write the HTML for a length that goes to them like.

B

A pre main note.

F

B

F

It was too long for a predefined message. It was too much text because the predefined messages have a lemon on how much text will be in there. It's smaller than a tweet. It's like 90 characters or something like that, and so I just had a an autohotkey button that I could press like control, shift something and plug that in there I, don't remember exactly what I did with it. When I was in late, Iconium library, because it's been almost four years since I've been there.

F

I really did that's long enough to go that I've forgotten after the things that I did.

F

H

Just have like a copy and paste document on the desktop that has it and we actually, we put it in the note field instead of the message field now anyway, so the predefined, no wouldn't matter if it was working there.

F

To the does HTML work in there yeah I.

H

Can send that out to the group after this I have another meeting, so I have to run, but I can send out that and the report that I use for edit and in case anyone else is interested I'd.

A

Be interested in that.

H

I'll send that, out after.

H

A

Alright, anybody else have any fun war stories.

A

One thing: that's nice about this working at home is we actually get to see Heather.

G

Yeah I've got a better internet connection.

F

How was anybody dealing what's working at home? That's not used to working at home power. How are things going in that area for anybody? How many? How many people besides me, are stuck in their garage.

E

You know it's not the working from home aspect that changed. It's the fact that the home environment changed for me because now all of a sudden I have four kids trying to go to online school all at the same time, and only once and I had to keep them all off, so that I could have the bandwidth for a thing.

F

We are having necklaces having a Tuesday morning staff meeting and it was right before this meeting and I got on and he's talking to a couple of people, and my wife is a teacher and she was in the other room. You know in a class and our ten-year-old was upstairs in a class upstairs and all of a sudden, none of us were in our meetings again. So that's been an issue here where, like if everybody is in zoom or Google Hangouts all at the same time, we don't have enough bandwidth for that.

F

So so it was nice, seeing everybody in the living room in the basement next to the router going what the hell happened.

A

My wife's having to work from home as well, and we both kind of communicate with each other, to try to schedule meetings at separate times just to address any bandwidth issues.

A

But she has the office and I got the bar gamer. It I got the better end of the deal.

F

Well, you can see how good of a deal it worked out for me than I'm the one in the garage.

F

How's that feel when that cold front just blew through I'm a space eater under the table. Here that isn't on right now, I had to buy I bought I didn't have to buy. My I bought some noise cancelling headphones because over here he has a freezer on the other side of this wall is the washer and dryer and the furnace.

F

So it could be. You know if somebody's drying, clothes and the first comes on and the freezers running yeah the space heaters on these folks and the garage is actually cleaner, because every now and then I'll get sick of sitting here and so I'll go over and put things away for. 15 minutes take stuff out.

B

I'm really happy having my one hour and a half of commuting that I don't have to do. I can use it to you know just chill.

G

Yeah I, don't miss the spending three hours a day commuting at home.

A

All right well.

A

If nobody has anything else, do we want to get back to our relaxed working from home, or does somebody have anything else to add to it? I.

F

Don't know if Heather can see the chat where everyone, oh my god, three hours what's wrong with you I know.

G

It's a little crazy, it's a it's about an hour and a half into the office and then an hour and a half back, because I live in the East Bay in the San, Francisco, Bay, Area and then work is in San Francisco. But up on the waterfront.

A

Am I, remembering correctly, did you used to ride your bike into work, yeah.

G

I ride my bike to a Transbay bus, stop put my bike on the bus, get on the bus and then the bus takes me and my bike over the bridge into the city and then I ride my bike in the city out to work, so I am missing. The bike commute exercise, so I have to really try to fit in like going running every day. Something like that. I I, think exercise and movement is a really key part to working at home. So much.

A

Yeah one of the things I used to do when I was working at home. All the time was about every hour and a half to two hours. I would get up and take a 15-minute walk. Just walk around the block. Do something just get just get out and move it normally when you're in an office environment you end up moving around without even thinking about it. You step over to somebody else's office. You talk to him.

A

You've got different things happening, but when you're at home, you just end up working working working and the next thing you know it's four hours later.

G

Yeah I've found that I've set, alarms or I'll start a podcast and then make a note to when the podcast is over. Get up and move I've had to plan the movement into my day.

D

It's totally new for me, working from home and I found that it still been tough kind of trying to stay focused on things, but when I am, it seems like I'm, actually more efficient, then at the office which surprised me I didn't expect that. But when I look back at my list of things, I got done. I'm surprised how much I was able to get finished. I.

C

Had like a week of calm and then people decided to learn how to use technology, so they would like at work they stomp over to my cubicle, and now they just hit me with chat messages all the time. So it's just the same, but different.

G

Yeah I found I found that too I get these waves of helping people with technology or trying to help them find things because we're trying to be more electronic now, and so, when I do get a chance to really focus. I am more efficient because I can focus, but I found that I've pretty much lost control of when that quiet time for focusing would happen.

I

I've pretty much enjoyed working at home other than the fact that I don't have the same connections to our technology, because the city's network is behind a firewall. So you have to go into that one direction, but my home internet obviously is not connected to that firewall. So you're constantly having to kind of go into things from different directions than.

A

Most of us are completely cut off from most of everything, the city of McKinney's IT department. You know from this wonderful policy that says they will not allow VPN access from any personal device.

A

The only way you can have VPN access is, if you have a city issued laptop period or you can bring your you, can sign a bunch of paperwork and bring your desktop home I.

I

Actually brought my desktop home.

A

Most of us have not bothered to do.

I

A

So I don't have any connection to anything beyond the VPN. You know, but oh well,.

A

So you say you are not even allowed to work from home. That is that's rough, isn't it are they at least paying you? Oh.

A

So you're having to work at the library, okay, I, had somebody in the chat Jenny. Is that right, saying she's not allowed to work from homes having to come into the library? A lot of us have been told that we should only be doing necessary things and tracking that little bit of time, we're not expected to work an eight-hour day.

A

So something like this for me is not working from home. I'm just doing this, because it's community stuff, not library, work.

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A

All right well.

A

Anybody have any other things to discuss. Has anybody tried anything interesting I've got a nephew who's going to library school and saw on Facebook I posted something about Koha and he was interested in it. So I'm thinking of setting up something in some of this time, setting up a koha instance letting him play around with it, while he's in school kind of walk him through that process.

A

Is anybody done that with anybody from the ground floor? You know installing it.

F

I brought home an old desktop computer from that was in the recycle bin work and I was thinking of I brought it home to to set up Quahog just for fun, I've.

A

Done that any number of times, I've got a couple of old computers that I've done that with, but I was thinking of trying to go to one of those online services and set up one that way where he and I both could play with it together and turn it into an educational experience for him and trying to get him into you know plugged into the Quahog group a little bit more. Since you know everybody, we can I.

F

Think I know fred has done that on digital ocean yeah.

A

I, looked at digital ocean and I set a group, a coli instance up there, but using their smallest tier. It's only has two gigs of memory and when I imported a bunch of records it ran out of memory, crashed any number of times. I'm, not gonna, pay $20 a month for something to play with right.

A

It's the only way you can get four gigs or more of memories right.

C

Yeah, if I remember right, Fred's collection is fairly small, so he probably doesn't need a lot of memory. That's probably true. Yeah.

F

Well, I think his I know we set it up on digital ocean, but I think the machine that he runs. His catalog on is actually at his desk again somewhere in that somewhere, no offices.

A

Yeah this was crashing when I was trying to rebuild the indexing, it would run out of memory there and I only had a couple hundred records in it. So.

A

Isn't worth more than $5.

A

All right well, if nobody else has anything I'm willing to call this meeting adjourned one more second one.

C

More shameless flexor, : I'll put the link in there in the chat it's next Thursday 8:00 a.m. Eastern to 8:00 p.m. Pacific, so like 15 hours of koha education, learning great stuff schedules up on that link, I just posted, so please join us for any and all of it now.

A

I just sent that out to all of my full-time staff, that's looking for things to do. That's 15 hours of things to do right there. There you go all right! Thank you, I'm good rest of your week thanks and see you later bye. Everyone.