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From YouTube: Web Development Special Interest Group - 7/9/20
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00:09:15 Owen Leonard: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24958
00:20:12 Owen Leonard: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20168
00:30:04 Owen Leonard: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25025
00:30:23 Owen Leonard: https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15934747011658
00:31:39 Heather: Some of our local cover images that are pretty cool: https://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=pulp+fiction+cover
00:37:59 Heather: "Sea stories on the skin" https://www.nps.gov/safr/blogs/sea-stories-on-the-skin-a-brief-consideration-of-maritime-tattoos.htm
A
Yay
recording
so
this
is
the
july
9th
2020
meeting
of
the
web
development.
Special
interest
groups-
hey
everybody
hey,
so
we've
got
owen
here
today,
but
no
lucas
since
he's
got
a
little
bit
of
a
meeting
conflict,
but
we
do
have
some
agenda
items
courtesy
of
barbara,
so
I
try.
B
That
you
take
it
away.
I
tried
to
come
up
with
something
last
minute
because
I
always
feel
like
when
I
attend,
I
feel
unprepared
and
like
I'm,
not
contributing
really
so
these
are
last
minute
things.
The
first
one
was
when
you
go
into
the
logs,
it
would
be
handy
to
have
them
sort
by
date.
Descending.
I
always
find
myself
looking
at
the
top
and
then
realizing.
Oh,
that
happened
at
8
am
this
morning.
B
A
C
It
looks
like
that
table
is,
is
not
paged,
so
it's
not
split
up
among
multiple
pages,
so
it
would
be
really
simple
to
add
a
patch
to
make
it
a
data
table
and
then
it
could
be
have
a
default
sort,
and
you
could
add
you
know
filtering
and
stuff
like
that.
That
would
be
a
good
idea.
C
B
B
B
B
C
B
C
Yeah,
it's
bug,
24958.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look.
D
D
B
And
my
third
one-
I
don't
have
the
bug
number
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
it's
it's
two,
five
something
two
five,
seven,
five,
eight
and.
B
B
Changed
that
because
they
were
trying
to
solve
the
problem
where,
with
auto
renewals,
say
I'm
the
patron
and
I
check
out
a
popular
item
and
there's
a
hold
queue
immediately
after
I
checked
that
item
out,
I
would
get
a
notice
telling
me
it
wouldn't
renew,
because
there
was
a
holds
queue
but
like
for
us.
We
have
a
three
week
checkout,
so
anything
can
happen
in
that
three
weeks
by
the
time
that
patrons
item
is
due.
B
Maybe
everybody
else's
hold
has
been
solved
so
that
other
bug
addressed
that
behavior
of
not
sending
the
notice
too
soon,
but
it
ended
up
also
taking
the
information
that
at
the
time
you
are
looking
at
it
that
the
item
has
the
hold
on
it
and
our
patrons
would
use
that
sometimes
to
realize.
Oh
since
that
does
have
a
hold
on
it.
B
I
better
read
that
one
quick,
because
I
don't
want
my
time
to
expire
and
I
haven't
you
know
taken
my
chance
to
read
it
and
then
staff
would
also
use
it
to
say
you
know
it
does
have
holes
right
now.
So
when
your
automatic
renewal
comes,
you
know
it
might
not
renew,
because
there
is
an
existing
hold
queue,
so
it
was
informational
for
us
as
well,
and
I
know
after
that
bug
was
created.
I
know
ed
has
commented
on.
It
is
important
to
mckinney
and
some
others
did.
I'm
not
sure.
B
So
there's
been
a
little
discussion
and
work
on
it,
but
it's
it's
one
we'd
be
really
interested
in
getting
that
information
back.
B
I
know
some
of
the
comments
or
there's
limited
space
in
that
area,
to
say
something
and
and
how
do
you
convey
it
when
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
space
to
basically
say
well,
it
has
holes
right
now,
but
you
know
it
may
not
in
the
future.
You
know.
So
what?
What
would
you
want
to
actually
say
there
to
convey?
C
Want
did
you
see
the
the
last
comment
on
that
bug
with
the
screenshot?
I.
A
B
A
B
B
C
B
B
A
So
that's
basically
all
I
had
so.
I
suppose
the
next
steps
for
two
five
seven
five
eight
would
be
putting
a
little
bit
of
commentary
on
there
slash
getting
a
sign
off
for
his
patch
and
just
yeah
that
looks
good
or
no.
It
needs
a
little
bit
more
of
this
or
that.
C
Margaret,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
the
power
to
get
like
kyle
or
nick
to
to
evaluate
the
technical
merit
of
that
patch,
because
jonathan
says
he's
not
happy
with
it,
but
doesn't
explain
why.
So
there
may
be
something
there.
That
is
not
going
to
be
obvious
from
end
user
testing.
A
A
Agenda
for
the
day
plus
we
have
this
recording,
so
that's
always
good
and
yeah
barbara.
I
think
that's
your
full
topics
list.
Yes,
thank.
A
A
I
don't
have
much
else.
I
could
mention
a
couple
of
things:
we've
seen
with
1911
wise
and
the
first
one
I
think
we
already
talked
about
is
some
css
kind
of
color
changes
and
for
certain
customizo
packs
x.
That
was
white
is
now
unreadable.
So
now
we've
switched
it
to
black
and
kind
of
things
like
that.
But
there's
also
been
some.
A
This
kind
of
falls
in
design,
some
javascript
around
notices
and
templates
being
a
little
finicky.
We
pinned
down
a
bug
for
it
on
the
self
checkout
page,
we've
gotten
a
few
reports
of
that
where
it
tries
to
print
a
second
template.
That,
of
course,
doesn't
exist
and
a
few
that
we've
seen
where
it's
not
on
the
self
checkout
page,
but
the
regular
checkout
page
trying
to
print
the
second
notice-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
bug
or
not
yet
for
that
one.
A
C
C
I
don't
know
if
you
all
have
seen
that
I
submitted
a
patch
for
the
opec
to
upgrade
the
bootstrap
framework
from
two
point,
something
to
four
and
that's
a
very
big
patch.
Lots
of
changes
needs
lots
of
testing
and
it
he
reminded
me
that,
because
it'll
break
a
lot
of
customizations,
just
like
the
read
as
I
did.
C
A
A
A
D
C
C
It's
just
it's
the
kind
of
thing
that,
when
bootstrap
upgrades
to
a
major
you
know
new
number,
it's
just
a
lot
of
changes,
and
so
it's
there's
just
no
way.
Like
the
last
time
we
upgraded
jquery,
we
added
the
jquery
migrate
plug-in,
which
just
sort
of
sits
there
and
makes
sure
that
nothing
breaks.
C
It
will
be
a
lot
more
flexible
in
terms
of
how
the
grid
works.
It
has
more
flexibility
in
terms
of
reordering
columns.
It
uses
flexbox
instead
of
floats
to
to
do
the
layout.
I,
when
I
was
doing
the
when
I
was
making
the
changes
to
the
templates,
I
I
found
it
once
I
got
the
hang
of
it.
C
A
This
might
be
more
tangential
to
the
upgrade.
I
know
there
was
talk
about
incorporating
features
of
the
galadriel
pelican
that
bywater
and
lucas
have
worked
on
into
koha's
core
code.
Would
that
dovetail
nicely
with
these
changes
since
there's
sounds
like
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
opportunity
for
customization
ease
of
customization?
A
C
I
haven't
heard
about
that,
and
so
I
haven't
looked
at
it.
I'm
pretty
sure.
Bootstrap
comes
with
a
some
kind
of
carousel
plug-in
that
we
normally
don't
have.
We
don't
normally
include
it
with
cohab,
because
it's
not
it's
not
a
feature
that
we
actually
use
officially.
C
A
C
A
Cover
flow
for
book
covers
and
then
there's
collateral,
opaque
customization,
where
it's
just
instead
of
writing
out
the
css
yourself.
A
For
the
most
part,
it
just
takes
what
hex
colors
you
want.
What
you
want
to.
C
C
C
I
always
come
back
to
the
idea
of
of
doing
like
on-the-fly
compiling
of
scss
to
css.
When
we
talk
about
that-
and
I
does
the
does
the
galadriel
plug-in
just
insert
css
into
the
page.
A
A
Or
the
opec
user.js
system
preference
and
then
you
can
just
scroll
down
and
see,
what's
been
added,
and
so
instead
of
having
to
write
the
jquery
yourself
collateral,
we'll
do
it
for
you
when
you
show
extra
search
options
or
if
you
want
to
hide
the
publisher,
show
it
or
the
audience
or
hide
it,
show
it
sort
of
thing
and
what
the
logos
url
is.
C
Yeah,
I
think
it
would
be
really
interesting
to
build
a
system
where,
when
you
saved
that
info,
it
would
actually
recompile
the
css
from
the
source.
Because
that's
I
mean
that's:
that's
what
the
scss
files
do
it's
it's
a
an
expanded
thing
that
can
accept
like
the
scss
can
accept
variables,
so
the
galadriel
plug-in
could
could
basically
redefine
variables
that
go
into
compiling
the
css.
It
would
be
a
nice
way
to
dovetail
that,
but
I
don't
know
anything
about
what
what
you'd
have
to
do
on
the
server
side
to
make
that
happen.
C
So
that's
what
I
always
think
about
when
I
think
about
that
feature.
It
would
the
the
thing
that
I
work.
The
thing
I
worry
about
with
the
the
galadriel
plug-in
is
the
fact
that
the
css
is
added
to
the
system,
preference
which
then
could
be
manually
changed.
I
don't
know
if
you
run
into
a
lot
of
libraries
who,
like
end
up
messing
themselves
up
because
of
that.
A
Gets
for
the
most
part
ignored
by
most
of
our
partners,
who
are
comfortable
with
css
and
jquery
will
go
in
there.
Do
it
and
then
fix
anything
they
break
before
they
tell
us.
A
I'm
pretty
sure
you're
included
in
that
number
and
then
the
partners
that
are
less
comfortable
with
it
just
ask
us
to
do
it
in
the
first
place.
So
and
thankfully
we
don't
seem
to
shoot
ourselves
in
the
foot
too
much
with
doing
that,
but
it
really
depends
on
the
library
and
what
their
comfort
and
time
level
is
to
do
any
opec
customization
some
will
say:
oh
yeah,
I
guess
it
hasn't
been
working
since
we
upgraded
a
month
ago,
but
no
one's
told
me.
A
The
opac
was
now
purple
for
no
explicable
reason
and
unreadable
like
oh
okay.
You
clearly
don't
check
this
very
often,
and
then
some
libraries
are
right
on
top
of
it
and
going
in
there
and
starting
to
change
things
whatever
they
can.
They
just
want
to
know,
so
they
can
do
it
themselves
and
it's
nice.
C
It
really
makes
a
difference
to
be
able
to
like
set
up
my
own
test
system
with
the
version
that's
coming
up
and
apply
my
customizations
and
know
that
they're
going
to
work,
and
I
I
know
that
that's
not
possible
for
most
libraries-
they
just
don't
have
the
the
time
or
wherewithal
to
do
that.
But
it's
almost
like
you
need
a
staging
for
every
customized
opec.
A
Sure
you
don't
want
to
go
there,
not
gonna,
go
there
as
a
company
anytime,
soon,
probably,
but
maybe
when
cohab
does
get
dockerized.
There
will
be
more
opportunity
for
that
with
sandboxes
and
take
this
image
throw
it
up
here.
A
C
Good
one
of
the
other
fun
things
that
I'm
working
on
right
now
is
a
drag
and
drop
upload
for
cover
images,
which
can
hopefully
be
a
model
for
drag
and
drop
uploads
in
other
places.
But
I
don't
have
a
patch
ready
for
testing
it.
It's
almost
there,
but
I'm
it
made
so
many
changes
that
I'm
worried
about
having
missed
something.
So
I
keep
going
over
it
again
and
again,
but
it's
pretty
fun.
I
like
it.
C
C
D
E
D
D
Oh
cool
yeah
we'd
like
to
we're
trying
to
do
more
with
getting
the
analytics
stories
cataloged
for
these
pulp
fiction
authors,
but
then
also
to
get
the
covers
online
and
to
get
analytical
records
for
the
covers,
so
that
people
interested
in
these
artists
can
discover
more
of
their
work.
At
least.
A
D
A
A
D
Oh
old.
D
We
we
just
digitized
some
drawings
in
the
collection
I'll
see.
If
I
can
find
a
link.
A
And
if
you've
got
any
of
the
sailor,
jerry
flash
workbooks,
that
would
be
pretty
cool.
D
What
we
digitized
was
some
or
some
flash
art.
D
D
A
Just
think
it's
kind
of
revolutionary
and
amazing,
when
I
look
back
at
on
this
day
and
age,
you
would
follow
how
tattoos
originated
around
the
world
in
different
places,
fell
out
of
vogue
as
societies
changed,
but
as
soon
as
they
start
going
out
as
soon
as
they
start
checking
out
the
foreign.
The
age
of
exploration.
A
So
at
the
same
time,
we've
got
triangle
trade
and
white
oppression
going
on
the
white
people
are
getting
all
these
tattoos
of
the
indigenous
culture
and
bringing
back
the
art
and
actually
inscribing
it
in
your
skin,
which
is
whole
levels
of
anthropology,
and
I
did
a
thesis
on
it.
But,
oh
my
god,
just
remarkable.
D
Fantastic,
yes,
yes,
all
of
this
and
the
opportunities
with
digitizing
the
flash,
the
the
artwork
and
then
how
it
can
intersect
with
photographs
of
people
and
their
tattoos.
That
which
is
a
photographic
art
form,
but
again
is
also
how
people
are
presenting
the
art
on
their
bodies
with
portraiture
and
then
oral
histories
about
what
this
means
to
them.
Yeah.
The
connections
are
fantastic.
A
So,
are
you
getting
all
that
owen
cohan
needs
to
be
able
to
present
all
of
this
and
its
nuance
visually
to
patrons
on
the.
A
A
A
D
Cool,
well,
I
think
this
discussion
was
interesting
for
how
the
web
design
topics
that
we
address
are
so
important
for
bringing
so
many
aspects
of
the
collections.
It's
it's
the
doorstep.
E
C
E
C
What
do
you
think,
maybe
that
maybe
that
image
editing
aspect
of
it
could
be
that.