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From YouTube: Kubernetes SIG Apps 20190617
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A
A
I'll
share
the
agenda
here
in
chat,
so
we
can
follow
along,
and
so
today
we
have
one
announcement,
and
that
is
that
115
today,
as
a
planned
release
date
for
115
and
if
it
does
get
released
today.
That
means
that
the
only
supported
versions
are
113
to
115.
So
if
you're
on
less
than
140
make
sure
you
are
able
to
upgrade
to
stay
within
a
supported
version.
A
B
A
C
So
there's
two
different
PRS
and
that
attempts
to
address
this
I
think
really
that
they're
maybe
not
gaining
traction,
because
no
one
feels
comfortable
really
saying.
Yes,
it
is
safe
to
delete
a
pod,
stateful
II.
You
know
with
all
of
these
conditions,
so
I
was
just
hoping
that
we
could
get
a
couple
eyes
on
them.
I
just
saw
that
there
was
a
comment
made
last
night
that
I
haven't
addressed
yet
so
I'm
sorry,
but
yeah
I
I'm,
definitely
open
to
suggestions
on
making
sure
that
this
is
safe.
C
E
C
D
C
I
was
also
having
a
hard
time
actually
creep
like
I,
have
unit
tests
around
my
stuff,
but
I
was
actually
having
a
problem
like
creating
a
functional
test
that
would
fail
for
this
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
just
by
my
limited
understanding
of
the
mock
or
if
it's
just
I'm,
not
I
need
like
more
of
a
functional
test.
I
think.
D
C
C
The
idea
is
mm-hmm,
you
do
something
like
you
do
an
invalid
image
name,
that's
the
pretty!
That's
the
pretty
standard.
One
on
my
team
is
you
deploy
with
the
wrong
image
name
and
then
it
gets
stuck
and
if
I
try
to
do
another,
deploy
with
the
corrected
image
name,
the
stuff
pod
just
never
comes
up.
It
never
goes
down.
You
have
to
delete
each
of
the
pods
in
order
for
it
to
all
respawn.
C
It
can
be
anywhere
in
the
order.
It
can
be
the
first
one.
It
can
be
the
first
or
the
last
right,
I
think
I
think
it's
the
first
one
that
fails
specifically
it's
or
sorry
the
it
is
the
last
one
that
fails
as
in
the
first
one
that
gets
edited,
but
ordinal
II.
The
last.
D
C
Right
right,
right-
and
but
this
is
this-
is
specifically
like
I
changed
the
image
tag
to
like
B
and
then
right
away.
It's
stuck
like
nothing
has
happened
physically
in
the
cluster
other
than
like
a
pod
was
torn
down
and
a
new
one
could
not
come
up.
So
it's
basically
just
stuck
in
kind
of
this
pending
state
and
when
you
would
expect
because
it's
never
come
up
it's
pending,
it's
not
running
yet.
This
would
be
a
safe
pod
to
delete
in
theory.
C
D
C
Thank
that
sounds
about
right.
It's
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
necessarily
acting
against
the
wrong
pod
I
thought
it
was
I
thought,
and
this
is
why
I
was
trying
to
get
a
test
to
work
around
it,
that
it
was
just
basically
that
the
pod
would
not
like
when
it
came
through
the
next
time.
There
was
no
way
for
it
to
do
some
consolidation
logic,
but
yeah,
both
of
both
of
the
issues
explore
it
a
little
bit.
F
A
A
You
okay,
the
next
thing
here,
our
controller
work
walkthrough,
so
we've
seen
a
few
other
six
do
kind
of
walkthroughs
of
controllers
and
then
put
those
videos
up
on
YouTube
for
people
to
go
and
see
afterwards.
We
haven't
really
done
this
in
sick
apps
yet
and
we've
talked
about
it,
but
we
haven't
really
actually
got
around
to
doing
that.
So
this
is
something
that
people
would
be
interested
in.
You
think
this
would
be
helpful
getting
new
contributors
on
board
and
is
anyone
interested
in
helping
out
doing
this.
G
A
Yeah
and
Ken's
offered
in
the
past
today
this,
and
maybe
we
can
try
to
get
him
to
do
that
once
he's
back
from
paternity
leave.
Okay,
you
know
okay,
but
it
sounds
like
this
is
generally
useful.
Another
option
is
at
cube
con
in
the
deep
dive.
We
could
also
do
a
controller
walk
through
there
and
that
way
be
recorded
as
I
keep
on
talking.
People
could
find
it
sure.
G
F
Expressed
interest
in
that
one
also
I
can
help
out
with
the
controller
walkthrough.
This
is
much
a
yeah
okay,
great
yeah,
that's
whether
whether
that
can
be
pre-recorded
during
one
of
the
meetings
during
six
sessions
in
San,
Diego
I.
Remember
that
Paris
during
the
meet
our
contributors
is
also
very
happy
to
have
current
contributors
doing
some
code
overview.
I
did
something
for
six.
You
like
like
that
a
couple
weeks
back,
so
there
are
multiple
options
and
just
a
matter
of
you
know
getting
together
in
writing.
It
out
and
publishing.
B
A
Okay,
the
next
topic
here
is
so
there's
been
talk
about
starting
a
cig,
usability,
sig
and
kind
of
started
off
as
a
discussion
about
kind
of
merging
the
different
efforts
around
UX
into
one
place,
but
it's
kind
of
transformed
into
things
like
accessibility
as
well
as
user
experience,
and
so
does
this
idea
of
starting
a
cig
usability
sake.
It
looks
like
there's
already
a
pull
request
for
this.
A
B
So
the
folks
you
started
this
appear
to
be
interested
in
user
experience
and
then,
as
you
can
imagine,
accessibility
and
other
things
started
to
come
up
in
the
conversation
and
so
now
they're
looking
at
just.
How
do
we
improve
all
of
that,
and
so
it
started
off
kind
of?
Does
it
live
as
a
sub
project
under
sig
p.m.
should
it
be
a
working
group?
That's
cross
things
and
I
think
was
Brendon.
B
B
The
CNC
F
has
started
to
add
their
own
special
interest
groups,
they're,
calling
them
CN
CF
SIG's
to
differentiate
from
the
kubernetes
ones
and
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
a
pre,
lated,
stuff
and
they're,
calling
it
now
app
delivery
and
it's
going
through
the
process.
It
looks
like
it'll,
be
Michelle
and
Alexis
who
are
leading
that
there's
a
link
to
what
they're
working
on
this
has
been
in
the
running
for
a
while,
but
you
can
go
see
on
their
mailing
lists.
The
discussion
that's
happening
around
it.
B
Essentially,
this
is
gonna
happen,
but
the
details
to
it
is
not
exactly
clear
when
they
came
up
with
this
age,
they
came
up
with
what
were
the
easy
ones
that
could
get
going
with
and
something
around
apps
was
one
of
them
that
immediately
came
to
the
forefront.
They
got
a
significant
amount
of
discussion.
B
The
scope
of
these
SIG's
isn't
to
control
any
of
the
projects
under
cnc
off,
like
kubernetes
or
home,
or
anything
else.
In
this
space,
their
output
ends
up
being
more
informative
to
projects
and
the
TOC,
and
if
they
may
produce
some
things
like
white
papers
and
informational
stuff
to
just
kind
of
help,
the
broader
community
learn
what
this
space
is
and
why
it
does
kind
of
cross
over
a
lot
of
the
stuff
we've
traditionally
done
over
here,
but
we
haven't
been
heavily
into
in
a
while.
A
E
E
G
Yeah
I
think
Janet
has
taken
a
look
briefly,
but
what
I
really
need
is
basically
someone
to
comment
on
the
approaches
that
I
have
highlighted,
which
one
makes
more
sense
and
like
if
somebody,
whether
people
knowledge
of
the
way
stateful
set
work's
comment
on
the
actual
approaches
like
if
they
have
opinions
about
one
versus
other
pros
and
cons,
or
they
think
that
I
am
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
which
one
should
I
be
choosing.
I
have.
F
A
G
A
H
A
H
A
That's
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
just
discussing.
We
don't
really
have
anything
at
least
another
I'm
aware
of
right
now
and
that's
something
that
we
want
to
start
doing
very
soon,
so
hopefully
they'll
be
useful
once
we
have
that
a
good
way
of
kind
of
getting
familiar
with
things,
though,
is
with
the
contribute
guide.
F
F
Probably
the
easiest
point
there
you
can
get
familiar
with
what
controllers
are,
how
to
write
a
controller
is
the
sample
controller
are
just
basically
yeah,
okay
cool,
so
that
and
that
video
hopefully,
should
give
you
at
least
busy
for
sometime
or
will
at
least
point
you
to.
What
do
you
need
to
know
more
when
you're
interested
in
controllers?