Kubernetes SIG Apps, 20 Mar 2017

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OpenCompose demo and standups

A

You, okay, welcome to Zig apps. It is March twentieth 2017, we're going to start with announcement, get some updates on how when dog 6 is coming along, have a demo of open composed and then do some regular stand-ups after that so agenda. Let's get started, I'll hand, jobs to Antoine. First thing to talk to us about the in-person sig apse meeting in Berlin.

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Alright Darius McCrae, Chaka, Khan and I'm, so we have been I think a 10 managing we're going to we're going to tell you perform. We can edit e esha cleaning really. It is also a question about which the big 10 an hour, which format you want to diffuse and from the wrist bone. I decree send out emails Angela for next week, so always going to be tuesday at the conference center from 4pm 66 free to a question and is complete the phone she canceled.

A

Awesome, thank you and fun any questions about the Berlin meeting.

A

Okay. So since we're doing the interest and Berlin meeting on march 28th, we will not have an online zoom meeting on march 27th, but we will have the meeting the week after so just to note.

A

Okay and if you have any items since we're coming to an to a close on 1x6, the tentative release date is still March. Twenty second I've added a planning document, a working document for one dot, seven to the agenda under the announcement section. So if you have items that you're wanting to work on for one got, seven, please track them there and we can talk to them. Talk about them during our 17 section the week after tooth con okay. So let's go right into updates from core, so Antoine or again, do you have any p.m.

A

Rev update for us on 106.

B

So what limiting for please suggest is a tour was like the demon a date, so you can add a demon sect and other carriers. Like is more like getting more information when a dependent. We should fail getting more feedback about. Why get her back so also from the fifth game tied.

B

We are reviewing and modifies the feature on the teacher template. So it's much more easy to fill the container with field, and also you previously was like. We are always update the inch of the issue, and now it's just like one time the right amount and then we direct to come at them and under on this research, Ricky.

B

This is the news from the Champlain, so.

A

This is the feature tracking document you're talking about that the PM rough group and the PM's used right.

B

A

Great Jan: do you have anything Todd.

C

I heard the tale ended up, but it sounds good with the feature tracking definite, so that was amazing. Ok,.

A

Great and we're still at zero issues under fig apps, and we don't have anything that we need to do on our side right, yeah,.

C

I checked out about 30 minutes ago. I think we're good, ok,.

A

Great so I'll just want the next set of updates. Does anybody have anything to add on staple set the game and said update, feature and deployments and replica set is? Are there any option thuds along those lines that may not have to do with one epic that you want to talk about.

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Okay, I'll take that as a no, so if I mean nobody has anything to add from the updates for torain a score will move on into our first and only demo for today. So Tomas is here: he's going to talk to us about open composed, which is a higher level abstraction for kerberos resources. Tomas. Take it away, please feel free to introduce yourself and go ahead and go into your Gemma.

C

Thanks vision, I Artemis, I work for a head and I be doing open, caboose project. Today, let me just share my screen.

C

Ok, so chemicals, the goal of the project is to make then make it easier for developers to avert, abilities and open the moves back itself. It's the classifier abstraction for eternity resources so either way. If I put it either way. If we are trying to make the syntax fruit abilities, LG there and actually Copernicus is focus more on kind of infrastructure descriptions and we want to describe application.

C

So we are trying to make it really simple for developers to use abilities. I have two examples straight for the demo, one of the engines and the second one will be WordPress, which will use the open caboose index and the tool to generate tremendous resources and the ability to the clusters with Starla.

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Hope you can see my screen which be really cool. Yes right, and so this is a really simple example. You know you have resulted a broken compose, which is just the shrimp of engines server. So if you don't get us back a bit to detail, there's versioning information, which is not important. There is service which kind of describes the Micra services you want to go into the cluster, so we have one which is named little word and it is containers which are translated into pots into penalties. So you use the ark, went.

C

For a scheduled, the finals, what would be- and we also define ports for error, image and there's a port mapping which tells you that the internal board in the container, which is 8080, should be back to external board, which is 80, which will be a service port and the serving size will be external. So so it should generate one deployment and once average and the current will be exposed to the load balancer or on port 80.

C

I want to show you right now so for the applicable spikes that also a couple couples to their bubble together.

C

He'll use command, open kabukiman. So for those who already know the cake impose, which is imperative, incubator and I think it's most charts project that this is a bit similar. But we go postal example. This man for users who already have the compose, and it's meant for them to be moved to cabelas we are trying to do with open compose- is for the users which notice the crypto close to the simplest bank, which will be application, focus and we'll make it really easy for them to run their application abilities.

C

So just the difference with energy projects and we're actually moved away from the part of my team is also working, you're, mistaken book project and reason why deer are moving away from the crew composes, because it can't actually describe all the things that competitive you can like folks. Another stop injustice is, there is one container, that's it so they are hacking into labels and all the tough- and this is kind of a clean start when we can actually influence with the format for the open, Google spec should be blind. So, let's, let's convert the example.

C

From the simple psych major like I, think in those eight lines, it'll generate all the necessary resources you can avoid abilities so with differing agendas.

C

We can see the deteriorating in the phone and some labels rohingya Natalie and here's the image, the previews and the internal write a report and it also generated salary which exposes the port 80 and its title bouncer, who it will be accessible outside of the cluster. It's like 40 lines and the point is the user- can make sure you write the open, Kabul spectrum memorial, because canopy relation below not sure how many of us can actually write. The necessary commands decreases is just another number.

C

Eight yeah there's a lot more generated from this language and communication before the developer to use, and that also has another example before I should deploy it to coaster.

C

So we have more complicated example, which is a lot of press which actually prefers the database, so we will get the engine in the cuckoo, pools, detection device to say Ricky. One is a database which is morality, image and some environment variables for it and it exposes the internal container ports. And this is one thing we should give food to the survey sports.

C

The service button will be same as the internal port, which is 3306, and it will be only an internal service, usual generate service type variety which will be accessible outside of the coaster, because the time is by default internal, and it also has a web interface, which is the actual WordPress.

C

Also some environment, variable spiritually connected to the hospital stuff like that, and it will be running to port 80 in the container and also there will be a service port 80, which is you can see that external, so into the foster. Iv will generate a service which tie pole, vaulter and it will be accessible outside of the cluster, and this is like it's 25 lines but developer. I can actually describe more complicated application.

C

This way, and to me this is like seems like clearly this for developers who are starting with abilities, so what they should do both we would only generate different. Oh.

C

3, he is kind of, in my mind,.

C

So you will get google generated by wordpress example.

C

Which generated the most of fast and again, this is the column and put it out the nice environment variables, the images of specified the lot of other stuff, the open, didn't specify and again for dropping which much port.

C

3306 I mean L, there will be another deployment for the web interface again leave an infallible, the WordPress image which will be running and they contain aboard anything, and it also generates a service for every deployment and the first one for just bass will use across variety because its own internal expose report, and it will generate a second service which will expose the web interface truetype bouncer or for latex, so that this is visible to and let's secure the point. I.

C

Am using unconscious the musical what the same would actually work with ppl and irritability here.

C

So it is the point in the coaster, so you can enjoy look at it in a nice way through the browser, so the first engine example will deploy into this namespace and it's exposed to the load balancer. So if we access this IP.

C

We all see the engines and use web page and also the second one, which will be more complicated, wordpress.

C

Heather's database, this is really close to IP and use publicly accessible type load balancer with the web interface.

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C

Actually were preparing to just quickly up in there, I'm going to see is working with turtle bay.

C

Hopefully, work at all right after your WordPress running and the point of it. Oh is it looks really simple for users to actually define the application. It was headlines for the OL engines were encouraging, for example, and it looks like 25 lines 444 for example, but make sure the hole for stopping mr. bunkies can write it almost immediately and it's more friendly than the command key resources it. This is our goal to make it simple for the developers to start with communities, confusion, and I hope I didn't get much of what I wanted to say.

C

So I think it's time for the questions.

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Obvious component cables looks like I, like the simplicity, a shot yeah.

A

I, like that, you kind of baked in the best practices with it with the convert command I. The question I have a few questions. Actually, um so I just want to confirm that you have to have a kubri any cluster mini Hugh brining, as a prerequisite. Please open compose. Is that correct, yeah.

C

It just converts the result. You just go back just back to burn, be successful, and then you actually deployed by the usual tools, like you, p, GL, &, cumin, tyrannic roster, for it I'm after recovery in the conversions can be done line with all the coast. Okay,.

A

And then how does a developer now, which environment variables just that? Do you see like a thought about a workflow for that? Do you imagine somebody who has deeper knowledge of pure Bernie's kind of giving a developer a template to kind of fill out, or how do you see that working I'm.

C

Not sure what you mean, because those environment variables are actually needed by the image itself, so it's usually to comment it either or to connect or anywhere else with lightning.

A

Okay: okay, okay,.

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Awesome see: does anybody fááá up so.

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F

Have an update working what.

B

Is the work to you later open, compose a spec and regenerate apart what what the expectations were to it.

C

Yeah yes, petition is the recuperation sources are only a temporary thinking. You can only keep the Oakland kooples definition and, if you change it to generate it again and use config your iPod I or whatever your regular school.

C

Is that what you meant? Yes,.

G

So what percentage of the cube feels like the communities object, technician give on the color and this simplified syntax? Yes,.

C

Difficult question I will say we are starting small, but we have just started in a motor mount. There were some previous attempts at Dover compose, but we ever looted the bridge a month ago. So we probably don't want to cover all of it. But let's see the stuff, 80 or 90 percent of us who actually need.

A

It's charging have.

G

You look into the board reset concept that sort of this coming in 156, like in the there is something new called publish, a precise thought pset or you can like. Some admin can actually like right, part of the spec like the environment, variables or some of the other configuration stuff, and then, when you create a party, will actually automatically inject into that and that can take care of a lot of their. You know. So. The visiting stuff I'm guessing yeah.

C

I, don't get it, but I'm not sure here ready are heading, because if, if we bring kind of high level, you will definitely more stuff and we are trying to microtubules about application definition soon. If you can see there is a portion of in which increases actually divided into Saturday's and in the deployment or both underneath, and we are trying to make it bit more high level. So it's not just about you need to define. Also stuff for both, which you may end up.

C

Defining anywhere is the you think you talked about, but generally we just trying to display an obligation.

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Okay, thank you so much flop, yeah.

C

Let me just say at the end that you really welcome your feedback so comfortable to us or something up on my own lives, and we are written at the open to suggestions how they should be like to work for everyone. Yeah thanks for the barbecue, okay,.

A

Thank you you'll put that information in the in the minute, strawberry wine Thanks.

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A

So let's go into stand-up some mad butcher from home. Do you have anything for us yeah.

E

So we are getting close to the 2.3 released. Last week we released to point2 points3 the week after coupe gone on april april. Fifth is the plan today right now we will relieve two-point 3.0, which has a whole bunch of new features, and many of the people in this room have contributed new features and bug fixes to this.

E

The one thing that we are just a little bit behind, where I'd like us be I, tried to get a whole bunch of new best practices docs in for this for leads, and we are lighting a little bit on what I hope to have that we've got a kind of scaffold without, but it'd be great to get some more on there, but otherwise our challenge right now is the sort of Wrangell everything and get into shape. So we are looking forward to a good chunk of the the core.

E

Contributing team will be at KU con tu. If you can find us in flag us down we'd love to talk about anything. You've got to talk about as far as making hell better, so next week will largely be out there and then the week after. That is our two point. Three point over leaks. That's all I got thanks.

A

Thanks for sure- and there will be an opportunity for everyone who made the day before to decline in Berlin. So please join us for that. Last time we had a home working group there and that was really really nice and helpful. Okay, so charts team linky. Do you have anything for us? I, don't see anybody else from the charts team here.

H

Honestly I'm just listening today, so I'm pregnant okay.

A

Thank you and welcome okay compose others. Tomorrow you have something for us. Yeah.

F

Just thankful interesting job working on squashing, some box, you're, a small one and blowing documentation, but it'll.

H

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A

Awesome thanks: have you looked into Cabrini's incubator, graduation requirements, I? Don't.

F

Yeah, we all go to the focus. Okay.

A

Some good um app controller.

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Yeah, so we were, we are working on the helm and controlling integration in.

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Rudders and first up controller implementation of brother is coming along. Also, the native brother, which which doesn't change behavior in any way, is soon ready to reduce. So we will let town folks know.

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And this is basically my cocoa responses and I need to give both we and rapes or css, say yeah.

J

Okay, so, like speaking about other activity, so we bombed some quality requirements like we are supporting latest one foot fighting on food fight right now and we are currently working on this improving our CI and make it faster. It is in quality, DMV cluster to buy you one, someone also communities and also we match to my try improvements last week and yeah I supe our photo convention that we are also working on this drought, implementation, which will add some life Chris cup wheat, is to up controller and other stuff.

J

Also, the PRS already leave you, but it will be speed into smaller pieces pretty soon yeah and that's probably all from up control. Thanks. Thank.

A

You and senior Jimmy do something for different.

D

So there's actually a mafia Norris reach, we're actually renaming be in our app registry to a determination, the confusion there I deal with the most common question: quien ours, what is Dina, so it's an Africa streets. The specifications are not registry. So, as a part of that, we moved to get up Rico to get up. / f dash registry. So you can find everything there. There's a built-in fortification of being were shown there I want this representation of those server on the client now has static, builds.

A

Available so you can just download.

D

How employed and direct way to directory and on target and then start pushing it to a staging instance? We have running that is we'll get a stock whaddaya and you can actually start buying the stuff. Today and later the week we're having me working to actually release it on prod, wait, I, oh so you will have to do halfway down I.

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Also data that just push that back wit I was going to be to be better week. So it's complete playground impregnated by with whatever charts want to it. If you want full instructions on how to actually download the home plug in and push to it as all on the CNR dash point repo on a poor just reading this, and if there's any question I'm going to answer questions Jana.

A

Thank you. That's awesome. Anybody has any questions on any of the stand-ups calm composed a controller CNR.

A

Okay, so, mmm since that's all for the schedule portion of this meeting this week, I just want to reiterate some calls to action here from the beginning. So some things you know it again or is that we'd really love for you to RSVP for the in-person fig apps meeting in Berlin. There is a link in the agenda. There is no se gaps meeting next week online and replacing that would be in person. One CN ours got some fun stuff.

A

So go check that out to me if you could send the mailing list and email of all the details, yeah.

D

Actually forgot to mention that I was going to do that.

A

Fertile earth once that I had about them: okay and open, composed looking for feedback and I- think that's all oh, and if you have something that you're going to work on for one night, seven, let's start that we've already started that planning document. So throw your item and your name on that on that document. So we can start planning a little bit early earlier that for this cycle. Okay, so with that we've got 30 minutes, does anybody have anything else, they'd like to discuss or bring up or.

G

Yeah so either one item to discuss I think last week on the flag, channel I think somebody was discussing like physically, better from stable Josh, which uses like alpha features like the volume alpha twist class in terms of stable Josh.

G

So I guess you know if this is a question for the judgment in anderson in a way that should like the table, there's not in use any of the Alpha features all quantities so that they don't bake, because what I mean, what I have seen is that when they go go from alpha to beta, they basically drop to support for alpha and then some when they become better, do like full version. They usually have support for at least one release. It doesn't break existing stuff from alpha to beta beige with this break stuff.

G

That has been my experience. Oh so you know, and one other thing is that if you'll hear the quantities, clustering dke google container in game, they actually will great your cluster. If you use any of that for feature after 30 days, it's like when you say use our feature enables our picture that the check box at the show, so that seems like a very strong indication that don't use the quarantine production. So maybe you shouldn't do any stable stuff in there now using Africa in this table,.

A

Yeah intense thanks for bringing that up, I, don't want to speak for the charts team, but I know that there shouldn't be alpha features in stable charts. So let's bring this up with that team. Oh Eric. So if you can answer, go Eric.

A

Okay, maybe I'm, maybe.

H

In that we can I can confirm that document. Is that there's no alpha loud and stable chop, not.

H

Let alone oh ok,.

A

Thanks eric is going to type up an answer, so when here is that we can read that or send that out in the middle of I'm, does anybody have any other questions or discussion talk as if you'll answer in the agenda? Thank you. Eric.

A

Who's excited for coop, Klein and cloud native kind. Oh.

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Of us I, like that, you answered for everybody yeah, that's great um I'm, very excited to me. Everybody in person again I hope that everyone can make it. If you can't that's okay, we'll keep doing this and one day we will meet and how butcher says this guy awesome great.

A

So if nobody has anything else, we'll go ahead and meet end the meeting early, which is not a bad thing well on a Monday, you can have 25 minutes back and eric is answering that question very small in the agenda as we speak and then we'll also touch base on that again. The next time we talk just to make sure we have that covered thanks. Everyone hope you have a great week right.

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You thank you buddy.